Belts, Baby Mamas & Bad Judging — Welcome to Boxing

This week at The Spar-Inn, the crew dives into another wild stretch of boxing madness, from Boots Ennis fans losing their minds to the Parker vs Wardley “UK cooking” stoppage, Tank Davis’ out of ring drama, and women fighters demanding 3-minute rounds. Add in a little Jake Paul matchmaking talk, a few strong opinions, and the usual bar-banter energy, and you’ve got another round of unfiltered boxing talk straight from the tap. With 2 fans of the show from different continents popping in as well!

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Halloween Banter And Boxing Lull

SPEAKER_02 0:13

Yo, welcome to Spartan November episode, William Puma. We are here again. Took a week off. We're going like every other week now because boxing's kind of uh D-E-A-D, can't say that word on the live. Here we are coming off of Halloweeny, where we had a Hollow winner in Michaela Meyer. We're gonna talk about that.

SPEAKER_06 0:34

Um take no time to glaze that way.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Oh yeah, you know, I like that lady. Um yeah, yeah. What are you up to, Willie?

SPEAKER_06 0:45

Ain't shit, man. How your fucking decorations came down fast today, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

Took them down. We became we became that house, that Halloween house where like yeah, that yeah, I don't got no cool uh mechanical things, like jump out like what the hell shut up. We got a lot of decorations. Oh, fruit flies are back. That's cool, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:06

Yeah, I do have mad decorations, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

You see the living room when you walked in, huh? Like the the other living room up there, nah, yeah. Halloween. What were you for? Halloween myself. Did you fix your Xbox? I saw Willie. Hell no, I saw Willie at Ace Hardware.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

He's like, Yo, you got the uh you got the um Alan Key.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

I got it too, by the way.

SPEAKER_06 1:25

What you had it already?

SPEAKER_02 1:27

It's been laying right there ever since the star shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:30

Wow, you had it already though?

SPEAKER_02 1:34

I don't know. I had to buy more because they like broke, but it didn't so Willie tried to damn hit that fly. There's a lot of fruit flies down here, man. I gotta do something about this.

SPEAKER_06 1:44

They're gonna be flying. No, I've been here five years.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

I never had fluke fruit flies.

SPEAKER_06 1:48

What's going on?

SPEAKER_02 1:49

It likes you, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:50

I don't know. I got cocoa butter in my head.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

I got um, yeah, a lot to go over. We'll just get right into it as all the followers roll in. Look at them all. Damn, just kidding. Um, we got Michaela Mayer to talk about. We are gonna talk about Joseph Parker versus Fabio Wardley, where I was dead wrong. Dead wrong. There I go. I said it. Said I can't say it.

SPEAKER_06 2:14

I was dead right.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Yeah, but like we'll talk about that fight. Um another guy is in the news again, and there's a lot going on. Oh no, the basis of our episode uh Jervanta Tank Davis, baby mama, drama again. And I don't know the details of it, but uh I just know it's some big.

SPEAKER_06 2:35

Show me the video. Show me the video.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

There's a lot we're gonna talk about, unpack there. Um, and then you know, his his partner there, Jake Paul, was just just on video sparring shakor. That's pretty cool. Um, that's fine. Speak on that. Oh, there's some weird shit going on with female boxing. We'll touch on a little bit, nothing crazy.

SPEAKER_06 2:53

But how are you about female boxing?

Boots Ennis Fans And Welterweight Claims

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Um, I I read, man. I read. I'm obsessed with this dumb sport, and I just I didn't see that. But before we get into it, before we get into the nitty-gritty, I want to talk about fucking boots ennis fans, man.

SPEAKER_06 3:08

Again, they're harassing you, bro.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

Like, like I I didn't even I didn't even hate on boots, you know what I mean? Like in that last little yeah thing we talked about, like with Crawford and and how like they just gotta stop mentioning Crawford's name. You would think Boots Ennis is a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame already. Yeah, you think you can name five Hall of Famers he beat? Like it's it's crazy. These fans coming at me, and I'm just like, uh, I'm not hating on him. I wish I wish him all the best. I hope he gets undisputed. I really do. He just you can't name Crawford yet in the same category. That's all I said, and I'm getting a little bit of harassment. Kind of not going in, as people are stupid. Like, oh, he did unify. But I'm like, Yeah, he he did unify, but he got handed a belt. It was like elevated, you gotta fight for the belts, and they're like, Well, he had the ring magazine belt. Yeah, but that's also kind of like what they made. I mean, unify the belts, all of them. And I guess technically he did unify, but like he got upgraded, elevated a belt. Like, that don't count.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

Yeah, so yeah, Stanny only and Stanny only haven't fought over a year, too. That was a dumb.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

But that just again, I hope uh we're gonna see it, we're gonna touch on that next fight. Finally, we get a real big fight weekend. Virgil Ortiz versus Lubin. Um that's this weekend, yeah. Come through. That's a good fight. Uh oh shit, no, I won't be here. Fuck I'm gonna be at the baby show. Yeah, I'm not gonna be here. Damn it, I'm going to army game. Fuck.

unknown 4:29

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Oh well. Uh watching on my phone or something. Um, yeah, but we'll see that. And now, now what made news headlines? This is how you know boxing's a little uh little slow right now. Big boxing news headlines.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Jeron Ennis is gonna be ringside at Virgil Ortiz Jr.'s fight.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Uh whoa! Whoa! Okay, cool. Fighters are always ringside. Like that was big news.

SPEAKER_06 4:56

Yeah, I've seen an uh interview with him. He was like, I don't know if I'm they gotta give me an invite. I talk to Eddie.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

Boots don't and it's not boots, it's just fans. Like, it's like tank fans can't root for tank anymore. Yeah, and then now they're big boots babies. Yeah, there's a lot of boots like it's crazy, and I'm not hate, I don't hate on boots. Like tank, I guess you could say I kind of hate it on a little bit just because I'm a teal guy, so it was like you know, but I I root for tank too, but like boots I like. I like again, I like the guy, so it's fucking uh I don't know. But um, yeah, man, Canada. Let's just talk about Michaela Meyer and uh with yeah, because or you want to do the want to talk about Joe Parker, Fabio Wardley? Yeah, we could do that. Talk about Fabio Wardley.

SPEAKER_06 5:40

Doesn't matter when I got I called this one, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, lucky chance, man.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Just need a lucky very it wasn't luck by his skill.

SPEAKER_06 5:47

I actually like him.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

No, no, me too, me too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 5:49

I ain't gonna lie, he's he's got heart, grit, but he got a chin, very good chin. He got a chin, his style is pretty decent, too. And he throws these bitches. I'm like, yo, this guy throws, man.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Joseph Parker is winning every round, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:03

He was every round, very well. But he got some defense. Well, they got defense too. I didn't know he was like slipping. He was yo, I was like, yo, I was surprised, man.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

Speaking of defense, though, did you see Parker? Parker getting hit what you mean in the stoppage. He got hit like twice, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and then there was a lot of misses. Thank you. That's all I wanted. That was a bad stoppage.

SPEAKER_06 6:26

Okay, that's a bad stoppage.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

I would have lost the bat anyway. I had Parker knockout, so he was hurt.

SPEAKER_06 6:30

He was hurt twice in a row, though. Like two rounds.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

He's not hurt, though.

SPEAKER_06 6:33

Like, yes, he was stunned.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

He was stunned, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:36

They were stunned, they was both getting stunned. That was a great fight.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Nah, it was action packed, great boxing.

SPEAKER_06 6:40

A box, they was actually boxing heavyweight.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

They was boxing. It wasn't a pay-per-view, though. That whole card was not pay-per-view because I'm fucked that up.

SPEAKER_06 6:47

Yeah, they wait, they waited 60 bucks. Never.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

I didn't I I did a little stream thing, which I hate because then they see up but they see my search history and all the dirty shit I look at.

SPEAKER_06 6:57

So uh that's how they do it. I'm just guessing.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

All those pop all those pop-ups and shit.

SPEAKER_06 7:03

Oh yeah, the oh the yeah, uh jerkmates is yeah, jerk mates.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Nah, I'm kidding, but like it did piss me off when I saw it because I was I was looking forward to like a nice afternoon. I'm like, cool, an afternoon fight, no no real big boxing shit going on. I'm like, 60. I'm not paying 60 bucks for this fucking thing. Um, whatever though.

SPEAKER_06 7:22

Uh that fight was good, bro.

Ortiz vs Lubin Headlines A Slow Month

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Yeah, it was, but the stoppage ruined it, man. And again, this is that English cooking, dude. There's two places where you get hometown cooking like no other. Well, there's a lot, uh, every other country really does that. But England and Texas. Texas gets some hometown decisions that we can't we can't forget about. Um, yeah, that was that was bad because I I had money, a lot of money on that fight, and it was gone. But the real question is plus 500.

SPEAKER_06 7:52

I knew it, bro. I didn't put no money on it.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

I you see the replays are like, come on. And again, I'm happy for Wardley. He you see him like fall on the ground, and then his his coach.

SPEAKER_06 8:00

I mean, look, the rounds is close. It's not like clearly, it was clear.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

It was pretty clear, dude.

SPEAKER_06 8:05

Nah, he's he was winning a lot of rounds, Parker, but it wasn't worthy of a stoppage. Nah, that was not.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

It wasn't no point.

SPEAKER_06 8:12

He would have got there though. How is that a stoppage? You got tired, bro.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Parker gets Parker got knocked down twice by Zang, and that wasn't a stoppage. This isn't even now.

SPEAKER_06 8:21

It shouldn't have been a stoppage, though, but he was whirling on him, and um, yeah, Wardly was doing his thing, man. He had a look, he got a nice little pull counter.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

So so what do you think? What do you think? Wardly Usick. Apparently, that's next.

SPEAKER_06 8:34

No, I mean Usick is gonna beat the shit out of it.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Usick. I think Parker Usick was a better fight, too. Parker is a little bit smarter, ring IQ wise, and I don't like Parker either, so I don't care. Why why don't you like it? You just don't like and just woke up.

SPEAKER_06 8:49

I just don't like him. I don't I don't like him at the time.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Willie woke up, washed his balls.

SPEAKER_06 8:52

He cheated. I don't like that guy. They cheated, bro. He cheated. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

With what?

SPEAKER_06 8:57

You know, Turkey be doing his oh, that's why.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Yeah, kissing each other. You like because he beat the hell out of Wilder.

SPEAKER_06 9:04

No, it's not Wilder. I don't give a fuck about Wilder.

SPEAKER_02 9:07

I saw a video of him, dude. Wilder speaking.

SPEAKER_06 9:10

He was on a stream, man. He's getting money, man. He's getting money. Yeah, on one of them streams.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Apparently, they're saying him just one knockout away.

SPEAKER_06 9:18

Be back.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Uh him and what's his face? Andy Ruiz are supposed to be in talks. That's a cool little fight. That's a cool little one. I think Ruiz knocks him out. I think Wilder's donezo.

SPEAKER_06 9:28

Ah, Luiz beat is kind of he been falling off too.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

So heavyweight boxing is just fun, though, man. Like we talked about on the last episode, too.

SPEAKER_06 9:36

We need one. Where's the Americans? We can't talk about what about your boy? Um, how do you feel about your boy Um Torres calling out?

SPEAKER_02 9:43

Um yeah, that uh Moises Atama. Yeah, yeah, I think that was awesome. Good for him, dude. He he seems like he's really about it and wants it. And that's a decent we'll get we'll get some answers on Moses, some real answers on Moses and Torres. Yeah, smack that fly, bro.

SPEAKER_06 10:00

Bro, that shit is not going away.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

Look at that quick jam, baby. No, you didn't get shit. Um, yeah, dude, that that would be awesome. Uh I want to try and get Torres on the show too. Uh I've been harassing him. Yeah, harassing him. Uh I am. I've been harassing him, but uh, dude, that that's a fire fight. That that's I'd pay 60 bucks for that over fucking oh yeah, because there's a lot of unknown there. There's so much unknown, and it's heavyweight boxing. Torres is a bull too, dude.

Wardley vs Parker Recap And Stoppage Debate

SPEAKER_06 10:28

Yeah, he's gonna come forward, it's gonna be um styles, a lot of Richard Torres.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

Is who we're talking about. He recently called out uh Moses Atama on somebody's podcast or something, said I want that fight. Like, why not? We're two young guys ready to fight, and he's he's American, so he he could be a win there. It puts him puts him up there. I think he's still a little green, yeah. But then again, we think I think Atama's still a little green.

SPEAKER_06 10:49

I feel like he's a little small for them British fighters, and Moses is small too, though. Yeah, but yeah, but Modus where is where he's from again?

SPEAKER_02 10:56

Um England, somewhere in England, yeah, somewhere in England, right? So he's he's used to like what's uh fan of us, Kai Hodgson. Um, who is getting he some merch coming in the mail, I haven't forgot. Um, says Torres needs to get the UK start mixing it with the top heavies.

SPEAKER_06 11:12

Yes, that's why I said that's why I'm saying, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

He should, he should. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's has Olympic pedigree, so he you know he could do it. It's just his motor for heavyweight is crazy. Uh Torres's motor is yeah, the and the work he puts in, he's always working, he's type funny too. He gets he understands social media.

SPEAKER_06 11:31

I just I just think he's like kind of small for a heavyweight and uh with all them British big boys, boys.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

Yeah, yeah, I agree. They're big big. He's but dude, that fight that is that's a nice fight because Turkey Turkey puts some money into him on that fight. That is a that's a great fight. That's a fight we need. But again, I I don't know what's going on with Usyk. Um, I think he mops the floor with Wardley. Wardley's gonna need a knockout in that fight, which is possible. Again, it's heavyweights, and Usyk's do, man. Usik's do to get clipped. So he keeps fighting these big boys.

SPEAKER_06 12:01

I mean, Wardley got some he got some slip. He be throwing the pull, he got a pull counter.

SPEAKER_02 12:05

I want to see his chin with Usyk.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

I want to see Usyk with his chin though, like versus Wardley, because obviously we was punching the shit out of him.

SPEAKER_06 12:13

No, he'll outpoint. I forgot it was like the 10th round before he got stunned. He was just punching him in the side of the head. I'm like, yo, he was cracked, right? So yeah, yeah. But you know what? Wardly does a good job. Um, he just roll with punches a lot. He roll with them, he just and he takes the heat off. I was like, I'm surprised. It looks like it was made to get punched, like a little bit like a he's like a skinny George George Foreman.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like skin, well, I'm gonna say skinny, but not just like skinnier.

SPEAKER_06 12:42

Yeah, his face looks smaller than George Foreman.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Heavyweight boxing, man. America needs a great heavyweight. I've been saying that, I'll say it again. Everyone's like, why is boxing still not where it needs to be mainstream? Because we don't have a great heavyweight and more heavyweights mixing it up. There's another bunch of reasons, but um man oh man. All right, uh, from the big boys to the big old ladies moving up in weight. That was not good, moving up in weight.

SPEAKER_06 13:11

Let's get canceled for now.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Canada. Oh, Canada, you're gonna get canceled. Oh, Canada. Rough, rough weekend for Canada and Canadians all around. The Toronto Blue Jays lost the World Series last night. Yeah, um, fucking LA Dodgers, god damn it. Um, and then we had Michaela Meyer moving up in weight versus Mary Spencer. I don't know if I spoke on this before, I don't remember. We've we've done a bunch of shows now, so shit gets a little convoluted. Michaela Meyer, the people need to, and I didn't hear the announcers talking about it. I did watch this fight, Willie. You were making fun of me saying I didn't. I did on Thursday night. I was a little drunk. Um, I went out, watched some football. I won uh right before Halloween. I won$666. Wow, man, bet before Halloween is the moral of that story. But again, so I got home just in time early night. My wife has me on a fucking leash. Um, nah, and I got home. Uh tipsy, I'm like, oh nice, I could stream this fight. It was very hard to find. Top rank needs to do better. It was like, I didn't even know Top Rank had a channel on Roku. Top rank has a channel on Roku of like it just streams fights, classic fights, everything like 24-7, which is cool. I wish I would have known that. Michaela Meyer, thank you. Now I know that. Michaela Meyer's chin, bro. She and I know it's women's boxing, and and we're gonna talk about this uh the two-minute rounds and stuff. It's really hard to get a knockout in women's boxing. Her chin has been fucking tested time and time again. She moves up in weight. Spencer was cracking her with uppercuts.

SPEAKER_06 14:40

Yeah, she's little, she literally walks into them.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Yeah, walking into uppercuts, dude. You're right. No, not very she has head movement, but it's just now it doesn't work. It don't work. She walks into them. But look at that chin, bro. She just keeps you get you. I know you I know your team. Uh, what's her name? Alicia Garden Alicia Bum Gardner. Bum Gardner. I know your team, Bum Gardner, but fucking you gotta give Michaela props here. Come on, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:07

No, she she definitely did her thing.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

I don't agree with them just making belts and giving it to her. That just means that they want want to get paid for these belts. So they they made like they added two belts, and now Michaela is a three has three belts at this weight class when it should have just been one versus Mary Spencer. But I I didn't know a lot about Mary Spencer.

SPEAKER_06 15:23

And speaking making up belts, what no no?

SPEAKER_02 15:25

They just they just said, Oh, this fight's now gonna be for the belts instead of yeah, the vacant belts instead of just this one, whatever. Uh props to Michaela Meyer, man. She does she works extremely hard. She's another one, she's an extremely, extremely hard worker. She dared to be great. And again, it's women's boxing, so you could say the competition there. But Mary Spencer, apparently, and the announcers were saying it, and then our our friend from Canada, Latino Heat. Shit, I think he was supposed to come on too. I forgot. Oh well. Latino Heat was telling me um he used to mess with them back in the day when he used to box with them uh in the amateur circuit and stuff, and he's from Canada. He knows Mary Spencer. He said she's nasty, like she was like Clarissa Shields back in the day. So that's what they they they like compared her to, and and that's a great fucking thing to be compared to. So props to to her. Uh Michaela Meyer did her thing, man. Again, though, top rank, you really, really need to find somewhere. Where are you gonna land? Where is top rank gonna land?

SPEAKER_06 16:24

It's getting was just straight faster, more explosive from the beginning, man. Oh she was she was she was waiting for that overhand.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Spencer was tired, bro. She looked at the five.

SPEAKER_06 16:35

Yeah, she was tired, tired, beat up, everything. She took too many punches, too many body shots. I've never seen, like, I thought she was gonna so she was the bigger person, and she was just on her back foot the whole fight. It was crazy. Michaela was just bull rushing.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

I gotta I gotta say, like, and I know a lot of people aren't gonna agree with this. Um, a lot of boxing experts, pundits, whatever, that they seem to hate women's boxing, they think it's boring, very boring. Yeah, that there is something to be said that if it was three minute rounds, like look how tired Spencer was, right? Yeah, Meyer probably would have got a knockout in that fight in a lot of fights, and it it's time to make it three minute rounds, you know. I I think we could do that. I I'm not sure. I forget what size the gloves are. I think the gloves are uh a little bigger too, but let's just just make them three minute rounds, right? Yeah, and and let them you could just do it 10 rounds. I know it has to be a little different, the science behind it, whatever, but make it a 10 rounder still, you know. But three minute 10 round, like why why can't they do that? I don't know. Um that that segues into the the next topic of uh Chantel Cameroon. Um she like she got rid of her WBC belt and said it was in protest because she wants it to be three minutes round, three minute rounds, and she wants like uh I guess she wants to fucking she wants equality, like as men's versus women's in boxing or whatever. And and okay, cool, but if you're gonna do a protest, right? The point of doing a protest is to get people's attention. Uh, unfortunately, and and I don't mean this in like a negative way, but unfortunately, nobody really cares that Chantel Cameron did that. You know what I mean? Like you barely heard about it. So boxing isn't that big mainstream enough where you could do things like that in protest. You know what I'm saying? And I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, it's just the the the truth, unfortunately. Uh now if if she signed with Jake Paul and did that, maybe we get a little more accolades.

Heavyweight Picture: Usyk, Wilder, Dubois

SPEAKER_06 18:27

That's what um Alicia doing though. She dropped one of the belts.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Did she?

SPEAKER_06 18:30

Yes, she dropped one of her belts because of that, just just to fight three minute rounds.

SPEAKER_02 18:34

Really? Did you know that? No, yes, really? Yes, she dropped one of them. I take that back then. I like her. Good for her.

SPEAKER_06 18:40

Yep, she dropped one of her. But see that? See that three minutes.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_06 18:44

And that's in in that um car, she's fighting three minutes.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

Yeah, I know. She I know they've done it. Like, just make them three minute rounds. I'm okay with that. Like 10 10 10 rounds still, whatever, because you got to be something different. Like WMBA, they got the little ball or whatever, and just make it three minute rounds. There's so many changes in sports, like non-stop changes in sports. We could do some change for the better, like MLB, right? They sped up the game to make it more exciting. You want to make women's boxing more exciting? Make it three minute rounds, make them knock each other out more because there would be more knockouts in three minutes.

SPEAKER_06 19:15

That's the bomb card to go and see if she can uh stop it. She could knock it out. So she better she got three minutes to do it now.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Like Serrano is such a draw because if that was three minutes, yeah. Serrano's such a draw.

SPEAKER_06 19:28

Sandy was not gonna sit there and run around for three minutes.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Oh, oh, versus versus uh who bump? No, uh Michaela? No, Sandy Ryan versus who?

SPEAKER_06 19:38

Wait, who's who the fuck is she fighting? No, no, actually, what's that? No, that was um wait, who Michael and I have fought Sandy Ryan. Sorrano and versus who she just lost to Sorrat Kelly Taylor, Kayleigh Taylor, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Yeah, that's another all three of those fights go a different way if it was three minute rounds, all three of them.

SPEAKER_06 19:57

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, so yeah, I'm she would have never run around for that boxing, boxing her ass. But she she clearly won that last one, but yeah, she she outboxed her that last one.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Um says, What happened to Mare getting the undisputed fight at 140? I I don't know what happened, but apparently that's like it's still in the works. Her goal is to get undisputed, but I think she just saw an opportunity at a belt, bumped up and got got another belt and another division.

SPEAKER_06 20:26

So she's just she sounded unsure what she wants to do next.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Yeah, so who knows, man? Who knows?

SPEAKER_06 20:31

Might go back down, might go back.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

I just gotta say this every time we talk about her. No, I'm not stalking you. Sorry, okay, just make that clear. Um sure, bro. All right. Uh, we were actually gonna go to that fight in Canada. I was I was gonna go, but stupid Halloween and stuff, just the timing didn't work. I was off all week, I was on vacation, so we were gonna go, but we didn't. That would have been fun though in Canada for Halloween. Canada for Halloween. I've never been to Canada. I hear it's a good time, unless you're um a Blue Jays fan. It was my dad joke of the day. Yeah, insane. And you know, along with women's boxing comes woman beaters.

SPEAKER_06 21:10

Yo, all right.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Like that segment, was that a good one?

SPEAKER_06 21:14

Uh all right.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Nah, listen, I don't know what goes on, I don't know what's going on in Tank's life.

SPEAKER_06 21:20

Show me the video, man. This is another a civil, a civil lawsuit. It's all it's always about some money. He's about to get some money. It's always when somebody's about to get some money, like the timing, yes.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Oh, the time it's always perfect timing. This is what happens though when like when you're caught on camera, right? Like, they like they see a business. No, but I'm saying, like, this is like a business, right? For these these girls, right? And again, if if it if it turns out to be true, forgive me for saying this. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, yeah. But he got caught on camera yanking that chick member. Like, yeah, that was yoked that chick up and a couple years, yeah. But like, and then like you know, he got caught on camera again. I think with the phone thing or whatever, like smack the phone or something, like just aggressive behavior. He keeps getting caught off off, you know, off air, and then even the the the car accident thing, right? Like the hit and run, which isn't you know, whatever, he's probably drunk and got the fuck out of there. But but when you continue to do things like this, and the those those weird behavioral things, and now chicksy dollar signs, and then half the public's gonna believe, like, oh yeah, I saw him on camera. Yeah, he could that he could have did that, and you can convince people that you know he could have done that. So, again, I I don't I don't really buy it because my thing is and I don't know how it works in that stuff.

SPEAKER_06 22:37

If it's in a club, show me the video.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Was that is that what they said? Do you know you know more about because I don't really know much about it?

SPEAKER_06 22:41

I just said it was in a club, and it's a civil lawsuit, so it's like bro, what is that? Yeah, it's all about money. So once it goes if it's not. So what happened?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

What do you do in the club? How do you kidnap a kid in the club?

SPEAKER_06 22:55

I know kidnapped it was no kidnapped. This is it was no kid involved. I told you this in the mess kidnapping as she like he tried to take the girl. Okay, like come on, you're a grown-ass lady, probably bigger than him against her will, though? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Yeah, I thought it was so I was wrong. I thought it involved like his kid, and she was saying you kidnapped the kid. So, but but that that because then I was like, You can't kidnap your own kid, but like if you take somebody against their will, you could uh you could word it right. Yeah, no, um, but my thing is why didn't she go to the police? Like, right? Exactly.

Torres Calls Out Moses Itauma

SPEAKER_06 23:29

That's that's show me the video, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Make it criminal and then then sue his ass. I said this too in in the little group chat where in like if if Paul say he didn't do this, right? And he beats it or whatever, you know, he needs to counter sue her for the money he lost if that fight card's canceled, because that's the next thing they're like that's what happens.

SPEAKER_06 23:47

They was a lose-lose every time, though.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

But he needs to counter sue and say, Listen, this is the non-that's because you have proof probably broke, whatever she'll have to sell her assets because look, this probably broke, but I'm saying, like, that that to me would be the right move. I think it's long, it takes long, but on the bright side, looking at this as a boxing fan only, you gotta show me the video now, and only as a boxing fan, right? And I'm not condoning fucking hitting anyone outside of a boxing ring, woman or man. I'm not condoning fucking aggression towards women, none of that. I'm not condoning any of that. I'm just speaking strictly as a boxing fan. If the Jake Paul fight is cancelled, right? I thank that lady. Because now we will get him back in the ring with a real boxer, he'll be strapped for cash, and he will need to fight real boxers. So so that to me, that that I I thank you. Sue him more.

SPEAKER_06 24:41

Let's get to the is it is it true that um he is uh um his replacement is Ryan.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

Well, rumors are everywhere. They're saying Ryan Garcia. Who else did I hear? Uh, which which if happens, he is uh Berlanga. I heard Berlanga was like they said Berlanga, they're shopping Berlanga.

SPEAKER_06 24:58

What if if that happens the only thing I saw was Ryan Garcia?

SPEAKER_02 25:02

No, I heard Berlanga, Garcia. Um, who else? There's a bunch. Mayweather. I heard a bunch of people.

SPEAKER_06 25:09

Yo, you think, but if you fight Ryan Garcia, though, that'd be crazy. That's a big name.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's Ryan Garcia, though. I think is fighting fucking Pacquiao. Uh no, the dude that fought Pacquiao.

SPEAKER_07 25:23

Who fought Pacquiao?

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Uh, the Pacquiao just got the belt off him. The fuck is his name? God damn it.

SPEAKER_07 25:29

His last fight.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Barrios? Yeah, I heard I heard Garcia's in the works to fight Barrios, which will probably lead straight into a Pacquiao fight for Garcia, which would be cool. I also heard uh Teo is shopping Pacquiao. Pacquiao is like the cash cow now. What happened with Tio and Shakur? That's you tell me. I'm waiting. I they said early. Well, apparently they both said early next year. So we got one month. We got one month, uh, one, two months. It's November now. November, what's the one?

SPEAKER_06 25:56

Well, how would they how would they know? Why would they like I think well, I know they stay training though.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Yeah, they're both in the gym, but that's just off of what I'm seeing in interviews and everything everyone else sees. I think they're just ironing out some shit in the contract. So hopefully that's true, and we get that fight. That is a mega mega fight. Um that is a crazy fight. Please be in New York, please be in the five or Vegas. I want New York, yeah. But but nah, I don't want that fight in Solidy. Just please fight. Yeah, I agree, but not in Solidity. You can't we need we need this.

SPEAKER_06 26:28

We need this. This is a legacy fight, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Here, I need crowd noise, not in solidy, anywhere but solidy.

SPEAKER_06 26:33

But again, um tank Davis, man. Come on, man. Yeah, my boy is always in some shit. Well, he's about to get paid, bro. At least get paid.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Like I like I just said though, you agree with that, right? Like, maybe this now he'll that fight gets canceled as boxing fans will see him in the ring with a boxer.

SPEAKER_06 26:52

He might not just he right now, he's gonna be like, he just quit. Yeah, mentally, I'm sure. Mentally, he's probably going through a whirlwind.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

He's cooked mentally. Mentally, he's and he was never really there mentally because now it's it's cut. Uh they'll probably settle and then he'll he'll pay her some kind of money.

SPEAKER_06 27:12

But if you didn't do yo, no, show the video because like I yo, these girls get paid for everything.

Canada Card: Mayer Beats Spencer

SPEAKER_02 27:19

I'd I I'll say this though, I would it doesn't matter. I would rather see fuck the money. We're fans, right? I would rather see Berlanga versus Jake Paul. Huh? I you would rather see that. I think Berlanga knocks his block off, man. Berlanga Berlanga Berlanga gives him the business. Berlanga might might sneakily become the savior of boxing. Like, no, but think of that real quick. Think of if Berlanga gets it. Berlanga is a type he had a parade after a loss to Canelo. Bro, he gets a Jake Paul. Every time this guy loses, he gets a bigger fight. He comes off one of the big worst losses of his career, right? With the um the way he lost uh or Shiraz.

SPEAKER_06 28:00

I think no, it's not even though we was there and we saw him get plucked. I still feel like he he he could have took a bag for that.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Like he got money for that.

SPEAKER_06 28:11

No, I'm talking about for the four.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Oh no, dude, he got he got no, he no, but he would definitely do it for Jake Ball.

SPEAKER_06 28:20

You know what the bag he would get for that?

SPEAKER_01 28:23

He's about the money, but think of his pride, right? Like that that was about money losing to Canelo.

SPEAKER_06 28:29

He don't give a fuck about pride. He just losing had a parade, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

But losing to Canelo is like, whatever. Okay, I lost to Canelo.

SPEAKER_06 28:35

Wellenga is a New York He was saying I'm the king of New York.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Y-N. I'm the king of New York.

SPEAKER_06 28:40

He's a YN for a while.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

What's a YN? All right, he's like, I'm the king of New York, I'm the king of New York, right? I'm the king of New York, and then gets gets beat like that. Whip fat Joe coming out. Like that was bad. No, no, no. That was very bad.

SPEAKER_06 28:55

I'm trying to tell you, bro. He don't care. He got paid.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

Yeah, he did, but like now, if he comes back and beats Jake Paul, though, right? Gets paid, knocks Jake Paul's head off, dude. Right there, he's like this. Now he's back in the boxing savior again. You know, I'm the king of New York. I save boxing, whatever. You know, to to people that don't know what they're talking about. But I don't know. I think I'd I'd I'd rather see that than than tank. Then what if he loses? Yeah, I mean, fuck if he loses. Uh yeah, if he loses if he loses, then Jake Paul, like it's like now we gotta say something. We gotta we gotta have a we well.

SPEAKER_06 29:33

We heard that he really trains, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

So if he loses, we know people that train so if he was to lose to Jake Paul, honestly, you can't take anything away from Jake Paul if he beats a guy like Berlinga, but if he beats a guy like Tank, yeah, there's a size difference, blah blah blah. Like, there's so much going on. Tank is what five four, five five. There's a lot to be said there. If he beats a guy his size and weight in Berlanga, dude, then they might as well just give him a title shot after now.

SPEAKER_06 30:01

Might as well. Put away. Um the one that beat Berlinga.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Shiraz.

SPEAKER_06 30:06

Shiraz.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

But Berlinga and Shiraz, I think there's a reason Tank chose. I mean, uh Paul chose Tank. There's a reason. And that's the size, the height. He knows weight matters. He knows the name. Even if even Tank's style, he's like one punch style. You know what I mean? Like count as the name. Yeah, the money, the name. There's a lot of money to be involved there too. But uh, I'm just saying, you know. That's really that's really all I all I got this episode. There's nothing really to preview. We previewed uh last episode Virgil Ortiz Jr. We can take a little deeper dive if you want.

SPEAKER_06 30:42

Well, how you how would you think about Shakur being in the camp?

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Oh, yeah. So so Jake Paul again training with a smaller guy in camp with Shakur. Uh, I think Shakur probably outpointed him and boxed him, definitely pieced him up, but I don't think Jake Paul was hurt at all.

SPEAKER_06 30:58

Nah, you see that shit. You seen this when uh they did the jab.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Yeah, his jab was faster on that machine. I thought I thought Shakur's hand was gonna shatter. Right? I thought Shakur's hand was gonna shatter. I was like, shit, dude, you gotta fight TO. Apparently, we're waiting on your hands to heal, and then you're sparring Jake Paul. So who knows what the fuck is going on?

SPEAKER_05 31:16

But oh yeah, that's crazy. Damn, I didn't even think about that.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

And you probably were tagging him up. Like if you're gonna break your hands on someone, Jake Paul's big ass Ohio head. You see that thing?

SPEAKER_06 31:25

That is all there.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

That head is big.

SPEAKER_06 31:28

Um, oh, a person that was there is beefing with your man's, and um they all there's some weird shit going on in boxing. Um no, Oshaki Forster was talking about um well, he got a fight coming up too. Yeah, he was talking about, but he was talking about um, huh? No, oh no, he was talking about um whatchamacallit. Who's the who what's the um dude name again? Shakur and um I don't know. I don't know what Raymond. I mean Ray Ford.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Oh, Ray Ford, yeah. Yeah, oh shocking for the beef. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:02

So so Shakur was like, um uh he was saying like he don't fuck with Shakur. He thought Shakur was doing some funny shit because he was like, if I fight Ford, Shakur is gonna be his main sparring partner, and they they sparring together and oh yeah, so he's he's playing puzzle pieces, yeah, yeah. Like he was like, Yo, you got some fake shit. How you gonna be his main sparring for partner and you over here and sparring with me?

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, that's spar on Oshaki.

SPEAKER_06 32:28

That's how it works, yeah. Smart. No, but I'm saying, like, they already sparred together and shit. He's like trying to play cool with both sides, yeah. But then when they about to fight, he's gonna pick a side.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

It's tough because they all came up together, you know, like they all came up together.

SPEAKER_06 32:41

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

Boxing is you know it's a crazy like you you think about the amateurs here, right? Like the young guys, right? Yeah that all come up together, spar, and now like when they go pro, they're gonna be around the same weight. Uh you know, say they they say like our little New York amateur circuit, yeah. All go pro and they're around the same weight. Like, or like you could you've included like Geo and Jaden, right? Are our friends? Yeah, they fought a bunch of times, sparred the same people, whatever. Like now they become pro. They're still gonna spar, like they're still in New York, they're still and then so they're gonna know shit about one another. Hey, pay me to come to your camp. Uh I don't gotta fight coming, I'll fill you in. It's part of the game, man. Part of the game.

SPEAKER_06 33:23

It is, I guess. I don't know. I mean, if you're gonna play both sides, though, that was kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

I mean, I think well, they're both from Jersey. Ford is at every every Shakur event, he's with his cousin all the time. They're good.

Case For Three-Minute Women’s Rounds

SPEAKER_06 33:36

Yeah, then now they're mad close now. Before before this, we never seen them together. Yeah, I well, I've never really seen him. I never seen Ford uh with I guess maybe Ford was getting more like uh famous or something, I guess. Maybe I well, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

He he won Ford right forward is a is a dog. Don't get me wrong, right? Ford's a dog.

SPEAKER_06 33:53

No, I'm saying like he just getting he's everybody know him more now. Maybe that's why I never really seen him together.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

He's being promoted, right? Too right. The zone is doing their thing with him, so he's being promoted, right?

SPEAKER_06 34:05

He's getting that money on that's just his diamonds be shining. Yeah, and he was in there, he was there that he was there with um. No, goddamn.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

He he was there with um what's fucking fruit flash it up.

SPEAKER_06 34:16

He was at the Jake Paul joint.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

Yeah, too. He was at the I think he was in Jersey. Were they in Jersey or did they go to Puerto Rico?

SPEAKER_06 34:23

Most likely went to Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

I'm not sure. No. Oh no. Most likely, though. We saw Haney. Haney was in New York, he was in Brooklyn boxing, um training for his fight.

SPEAKER_06 34:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, his dad lived here, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Um yeah, that's really it. I mean, boxing finally after November, it starts to heat up a little again, a little bit more with uh big name fights.

SPEAKER_06 34:46

Big fight this weekend.

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Yeah, Virgil Ortiz. Damn, I forgot.

SPEAKER_06 34:49

I totally forgot. I'm in the street. The 22nd is the big fight.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

Who's the 22nd?

SPEAKER_06 34:54

What?

SPEAKER_01 34:55

That's real. That's um oh, that's the big bit. That's ring four.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:59

Ring four.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Ring four.

SPEAKER_06 35:04

What are you laughing at?

SPEAKER_02 35:06

Like, I don't know. I hate when they do the numbers. Ring four. That's ring four. What the fuck is ring three? Ring two, we're at ring three.

SPEAKER_06 35:13

Crazy. Uh I would never forget that.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

That was a good night. That's a good time. Uh yeah, so we'll see. I mean, uh I heard too that they might push it back to December now, so this clears a little bit. Which one? Jake Paul tank. There's a lot of stuff going around. Who knows what's gonna happen?

SPEAKER_06 35:29

I thought the that's what I saw that Ryan Garcia shit. I thought it was really about over with.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Uh, I mean, he's not Garcia. Garcia's not gonna fight him.

SPEAKER_06 35:39

They they'd want to Garcia wants that money, uh he wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Yeah, but like contract-wise, they'd nitpick it. There'd be so much going on that I don't think you get done in a short period of time like that. And Oscar De La Hoya came out recently and said something. I didn't watch watch it or listen, but he said something like that.

SPEAKER_06 35:55

He's worth listening to, he's funny as hell.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

Uh Casra Boxing TV said Jake ain't fighting tank. Yeah, we we don't think so, man. Um they they said though they might push it back. I don't know. Let me ask you something. Uh, if I'm saying this right, sorry, Casra. What what do you what would you rather see? Jake fight tank or Jake fight a guy like Berlanga? Because I heard Berlanga's name getting thrown around. So when you hear this, there's a little delay, answer that. I want to hear your opinion on that. Um, but yeah, boxing a little slow right now. A lot of room for people to get in trouble, Tank. A lot of room for people to get in trouble.

SPEAKER_06 36:31

It's always something, man. We just can't just have a nice, clear, yo.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

The thing I love though about like our relationship with boxing, right? Is I'm a Tio guy who's always in the news for the wrong reason. You're a tank guy who's always in the news for the wrong. They're like friendly rivals.

SPEAKER_06 36:47

Why we don't like like we I don't know, bro. I don't know what's the issue with our fucking our favorite fighters, bro. They just like doesn't they like us?

SPEAKER_02 36:58

All I gotta say is uh you you should like Tio more. He came on the damn show, sent us merch. Now, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_06 37:04

I like Tio now. That's my guy.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

TO's the man he dances. Tank don't dance, yeah. He moves, he don't tank does dance. Yeah, he does. He went viral here for that zesty, that zesty flavor.

SPEAKER_06 37:15

Nah, what's up again? We don't know because you don't yeah, like we don't people they they don't really show their personality.

Belts, Sanctioning, And Cameron’s Protest

SPEAKER_02 37:23

So we see Cassera Boxing TV says Edgar Berlanga, let's make it happen. I agree, I agree. I I would if that does happen, dude. Keith Conley. Oh, and I said the name on point. Nice. I'm getting uh I'm getting better at this. Yo, Keith Conley, right? Berlanga's manager. Yeah, if if if that fight happens, and he's out of Long Island, New York too. If if that fight happens, Berlanga, he he somehow gets Berlanga in there versus Jake Paul, he's gotta be shooing for the Hall of Fame as manager. Like this guy's just getting cash grabs, losing, like nonstop. He gave him money, got a parade with like you said, the Cornelo got a parade, came back, got he's coming off a huge, major, monumental, life-changing, and career-changing loss, knocked out bad, and then gets this Jake Paul cash grab. Manager of the year. Fighters need to sign up to Keith Conley if that happens, because that is crazy. I was thinking about that. Like, I'm like, damn, dude, this guy, this guy Berlenga, like he's getting some money.

SPEAKER_06 38:24

Yeah, he's getting that money, man.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Uh, he says, bro, I think Jake should just fight uh Badu Jack. He will for sure get my respect. Yeah, Badu Jack is getting up there in age, he's slowing down, still a champion. And and I did I heard that name getting thrown around too. Um, and Badu Jack is not coming to lose. I think Badu Jack could outbox him. Um, but then again, I th I I gotta give Jake Paul some credit again because I thought Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. was gonna outbox him. And I I mean maybe that that might have been a fix. The only time I'll say Jake Paul might have been if it was who but uh Julio Caesar was was still throwing in in the 11th and 12th, but Jake Paul getting a title shot.

SPEAKER_06 39:07

I would I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

Uh Badu uh Kai says nah Badu gotta unify with Jai. Uh Jai Opatia, please need to see who's top at cruiser. Yeah, yeah, I agree, but something's going on with Jai, man. Uh I gotta say they're they're navigating him. He's great, he's amazing. When's the last time he fought? They're they're navigating him very well. He just had a fight announcement uh recently. Um and I I didn't know who the fuck the guy was. And and I will say the cruiser weight doesn't get enough clout. Um you know, it's not very publicized.

SPEAKER_06 39:42

Oh, that's motherfucking um just Dango back there.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

I I don't know. Why does it do that? Box Pro. Yeah, okay, so His Hassoon Sinkarara. Sinkara. Hassoon Sinkara. Who the hell is that? I don't know. I have no idea who that is. Um the IBF been smashing him with mandatories. See, and and and shame on the IBF because mandatories were put in place to to make you fight good guys. So like listen to listen to to to Jai's last three opponents, right? David Niika, N Y I K A, Nyika, Niika. Let's let that I'm saying that how it's spelled. Yes. Claudio Squeo. And now he's gonna fight Hisun uh Sinkara.

SPEAKER_06 40:36

Where is these guys from?

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Um, a lot of I believe uh what's it called, Australia. So so Jai, there's better names out there. I know I could think our our boy, G uh Skuderi. That's a that's a click boxer, good name. Train trains with boots' trainer, fucking fight him. Not Hussoon Sinkara, you know, and Jai's good. Don't get me wrong, Jai Abatai is good, but um says even Tyson Fury don't know the meaning of mandatory. Yeah, but like uh uh mandatories suck. Like, look at Canelo's mandatories in that in that string of Canelo's fights. His mandatories were fucking dumb, and he he had the belts hostage. That's that's another thing I want to see now that the belts are are free. Well, not free, but with Terence Crawford. I Terence Crawford now needs to make a decision. I know he needs to is he going to 160?

SPEAKER_06 41:28

He will did you see that shit that Canelo retired?

SPEAKER_02 41:31

No, I think that's just I think that's rumors because he he has two fights left on his contract.

SPEAKER_06 41:35

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

And he had elbow surgery. I did see that he had elbow surgery.

SPEAKER_06 41:38

We've seen that shit.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

I've just seen that rumor um, but no, uh uh, we could talk about that. Um we'll shift gears a little bit here. But uh, did you see I I guess Crawford, Terrence Crawford, was um calling out Janebek. He was calling out Janebek. So I was I think he's gonna go to 160. He sees something there, but that now now if Crawford beats the bricks off Janebek, right?

unknown 42:02

Whew.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

Because Janabek is, and I was gonna ask you this.

SPEAKER_06 42:05

Um why are you saying who like that?

SPEAKER_02 42:07

Like because Jannebeck, Janebec's got power.

SPEAKER_06 42:09

Yeah, what is that supposed to mean?

Tank Davis Lawsuit And Jake Paul Rumors

SPEAKER_02 42:11

I'm just saying, like uh that's he don't got the skill. No, no, he doesn't. Crawford, I'm rooting for Crawford. You kidding me? Um but that'd be crazy. That's a yeah, and and Janebec is kind of like considered the boogeyman, like that he can't get a fight, dudes are signing out, uh, or or like you know, they're they're in talks and then that they're just backing out.

SPEAKER_06 42:31

How many chances over there at 160?

SPEAKER_02 42:33

There's I think there's a vacant belt. Um, hold on, I'll tell you right now. Uh but I know he has two.

SPEAKER_06 42:39

He has two about older. If he can mute, if he can go undisputed again, bro.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

What do you guys think of the new CEO for Misfit? Uh I didn't hear about it, so I don't know shit about it. But if you want to enlighten us, you know what? Yo, Casra Boxing TV, you want to pop on and chat? You want to go live with us? I'll put you in the show right now. I'll send you the link in your DM. You can tell us all about it if that's cool with you. Just uh have your clothes on. Don't do anything weird. I don't know you. This is the internet. Uh but this is a radio show. Oh, Andrew Tate. Is it Andrew Tate? Really? Andrew Tate is the CEO of Misfit Boxing? Well, that makes sense. I mean, I like Andrew. Yeah, he's you know, he said, Let's go, man. All right. Um, hold on, Willie, talk about some shit because we are a radio show, and I'll throw Casper Boxing on again. Casra, stay closed. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 43:38

Let's get it.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Hold on. Um, let me see. How do I do this?

SPEAKER_06 43:43

Oh, um, yeah, I was talking to Jasmine today, and she was like, yo, she loved how Michaela Michaela looked today.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Jasmine Artiga? Yeah, keep talking about what else did she say? Tell her as to come on the show too. Hold on, I gotta go.

SPEAKER_06 43:58

I think she's waiting for like a fight. Yeah, oh, I gotta hit up too. You know, she said Michaela looked great, man. Uh beautiful boxing. Let me see if you're beautiful body saying, beautiful abs. What?

SPEAKER_02 44:11

I'm just saying, man. She don't got no abs if she has no damn. I just hate her, man. I don't know why. I don't hate her. You hate her, man. She hates you. She don't hate me. She hates that. I love her.

SPEAKER_06 44:25

Yeah. Oh, she said her jab was great.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Um, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 44:29

She didn't make no mistakes.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

Let me just uh message this dude quick. Um shit. I can't find Casra boxing. Talk, Willie. We're a radio show.

SPEAKER_06 44:42

Yeah, yeah. That's what I was talking. You said wait. Wait, um, I don't know. You said wait.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

Hi, I would love to. Oh, this guy DM'd me. I didn't even see it.

SPEAKER_06 44:50

So boxing, boxing has been, you know, we are waiting for some great all right.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

This guy Casra should be popping in.

unknown 44:57

Great.

SPEAKER_07 44:58

Uh again.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

I don't know what I don't know what we're walking into. I don't know this guy. He hit me up. Uh Lubang. He did DM us, so so I don't know what we're walking into here.

SPEAKER_06 45:07

Lubin. Uh I'm I'm gonna see how Ortiz looked this weekend. I mean, uh is he gonna dominate?

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Or is he gonna he's gonna steamroll him. I like what Ortiz said too. He's in the right mindset. They're doing like the interviews and stuff, the the rat that round table weird thing they do. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_06 45:22

I didn't get to watch that yet.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Uh, I didn't watch the full thing, I just saw the clips. I've been like, face-to-face and shit, yeah. But they kept they kept throwing again. Oh, what's his name's gonna be ringside? Boots is gonna be ringside, and you know what his response was? Okay, I'm focused on this guy. Great response.

SPEAKER_06 45:38

That's a generic response.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

Yeah, but like he's right. Like, like, can you guys shut up about boots? I got a I got a real fighter in front of me. You know what I mean? Like, top level fighter. Shut up with this boots shit. Fucking boots fans, man, bothering me, bro. Like, and I'm a boots fan. I put I put money, I I put money into boots, you know. I sat very good seats to see him. Fucking bothering me. What I know that's there. You love saying that it's fucking annoying, bro.

SPEAKER_06 46:08

I'm getting like money on what's it because it's true. And then next time you say next time, you're gonna start hating.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

It's no, it's true. People want to hate, right? People want to be like, oh, you don't like him, blah blah blah, right? Okay, did you did you guys go pay to see him? You know, these people hating? Did you pay money?

SPEAKER_06 46:25

You know, haters go see him.

SPEAKER_02 46:26

Did you pay money to go see him?

SPEAKER_06 46:28

You know, haters pay money to go see him.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

Yeah, I didn't go because I hate him. I wanted to see greatness and he did his fucking thing. He did his fucking thing versale.

SPEAKER_06 46:36

I've seen him on town too.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

With me?

SPEAKER_06 46:41

No.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Yeah, I think you were with me.

SPEAKER_06 46:43

I seen him with you, yeah. No, I seen well, I'm saying I seen him in um take undercard.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 46:49

Okay. Um he he uh he couldn't catch that kid.

unknown 46:56

Hold on.

SPEAKER_06 46:57

He shot him twice.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

Um there was another good fight announcement. Uh speaking of him, who's the dude? Fuck. The the the dude that beat um Keyshawn in the Olympics. He's got a real fight. Yeah, he got a real fight coming up. Uh, that should be a good one.

SPEAKER_06 47:15

Oh, yeah, he got oh, he got a name. Oh, um start with an end.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

There's a lot of there's a lot of good, good boxing. Yo, these guys love Willie.

SPEAKER_06 47:24

He's like 130.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

All right, here we go. Gamble, taking a gamble here. I don't know who this is. I'm gonna add him. Yo, what is going on? Um, what's up, boys? Okay, so he has clothes on. This is a good sign.

SPEAKER_06 47:38

Um what's going on?

SPEAKER_02 47:41

Introduce yourself. Welcome to the spar in. And uh, if you could turn your camera, there we go. All right, he's there. What's going on?

SPEAKER_04 47:49

I'm glad to be joining you, guys.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

Uh introduce yourself. Where you from? What is going on?

SPEAKER_04 47:54

I'm from London. I'm casting boxing TV. Nice. Uh, I do boxing journalism. Nice, nice. Um, started this whole thing by myself, actually.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

So, us too, man. Welcome to the podcast world.

SPEAKER_06 48:08

You got boxing background?

SPEAKER_02 48:09

Oh, look, he's got he's got merch too. We did the same thing. Yeah, we bought two people, we got a shitload of merch and no followers. It's real cool.

SPEAKER_04 48:16

Yes, I got my new merch here as well, the best and everything.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

Nice, nice. All right, who who's your favorite fighter? Um, what, altogether? Or uh current, current. We'll stick with current.

SPEAKER_04 48:28

Current, I would say Crawford, man. Oh yeah, nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Crawford. Is that new, or is that because of what he did recently?

SPEAKER_04 48:38

Um no, no, no. I've always been uh a fan of his. Okay. Um, but but I don't particularly like one fighter because I like all styles. Like I I like better BF, I like B Wolf. So I like like uh yeah, yeah. There's a lot of fighters that I I I love watching. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:59

Who's your favorite London fighter?

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Like, yeah, who's your UK favorite?

SPEAKER_06 49:02

UK favorite favorite.

SPEAKER_04 49:03

Oh, UK, I would say AJ.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

AJ, oh man, AJ. Hey, apparently he's coming to make some noise. I just saw something with Eddie Hearn and a friend of ours who sort of a friend of ours, a friend of ours that won't do my show, but uh Jarel Miller was Eddie Hearn was glazing Jarrell Miller, man. Did you see that? Yeah, all of a sudden now Eddie Hearn is a great promoter.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

Let's make it happen, man. I won that I'm waiting for that fight.

SPEAKER_02 49:31

Yeah, yeah, me too. I had tickets, man. My ticket sub says Anthony Joshua versus Jarrell Miller. These fucking fruit class. Um, but all right, uh, so what do you do? You do like a podcast? What do you have? You just do no.

SPEAKER_04 49:44

I'm literally just on Instagram. I do like I go around events, I go around every boxing event. I just in like to interview boxes in the UK.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

You go to a lot of fights in the UK? Did you go to Windows?

Replacement Talk: Ryan, Berlanga, Badu Jack

SPEAKER_04 49:56

Yeah, yeah, in London, yeah. I don't go to the zone. I don't, I'm not that big yet. Okay, um, but like you know, these local uh big shows, actually, they're not too big, but they're quite big. Like you we have King Mosley over here, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:11

Club shows, that's fine. No, that's that's good. Yo, that's so on my bucket list, right? To go to London, yeah. You the UK at least calm down, man. Calm down. Yeah, that's on my bucket list. Actually, I made some good friends at the Anthony Joshua Ruiz fight because we had to go to Ruiz, and we brought them all around the city, New York City. There were two UK drinkers, and it was a it was a good time, but yeah, um lovely, lovely.

SPEAKER_04 50:37

Yeah, you guys are more than welcome to come down here.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

Yeah, I'm a little scared though, man. UK guys get rowdy, man, and so do I. So yeah, yeah, they're they're not I'm definitely gonna get beat up, but that's okay. You know, I'm I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_04 50:50

No, no, no, it's not like that, man. Trust me. You'll be good, man. You'll be good, bro.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

So uh, all right, who who do you got? We're gonna we're gonna try and keep the show rolling again. This is like a radio show, and most of our listeners are on the radio, so we'll just get into um the fight coming up this weekend. Virgil Ortiz Jr. versus Ericsson Lubin. My pick is Virgil Ortiz Jr. Probably stoppage after six rounds. Uh again, Lubin is skilled. I just don't think he has enough to stop that onslaught that's coming.

SPEAKER_06 51:21

That's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

I mean, you you gotta you gotta you do have the right person to win. I don't know about rounds, I'm not particularly good, but every time I send a round, actually, um against Fabio Woodley against Parker, I said Fabio would win. So I I would but why?

SPEAKER_02 51:40

Why did you say that?

SPEAKER_04 51:42

Because Parker took him lightly.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

Did you think it was a stoppage?

SPEAKER_04 51:47

Uh maybe not a stoppage, but I did think that Parker. I mean, when I said win, I would say Parkour by points. Yeah, stoppage, yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

Uh no, no. Did you did you think did you think it was the ref stopped it early? Do you think did you think it was an early stoppage? Like, did you think that was worthy of a stop?

SPEAKER_04 52:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe 30 seconds or something, maybe a minute.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Dude, he was missing punches, man. I know that's your guy, a UK guy. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 52:16

No, he was missing one. That's what I'm saying. Like, Fabi was slow, so uh the the ref was looking at it, but I do believe, yeah, it was uh it was an early stoppage, yeah. And and maybe they just made it for the makeup big up for the second one. You never know.

SPEAKER_02 52:31

Yeah, I'd see the rematch of that. You said that was a good fight. Yeah, yeah, right. But back to Ortiz Lubin.

SPEAKER_04 52:37

Um yeah, Ortiz Ortiz got it, man.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Kai Kai says Ortiz absolutely runs through Lubin. I think so too. I think Lubin's gonna fight very timid, and you just can't fight timid versus Ortiz, you have to hurt him. I don't think Lubin can hurt him.

SPEAKER_06 52:51

Lubin looks tired early on.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

Yeah, and I just don't think he could hurt Ortiz.

SPEAKER_06 52:55

It's gonna be a man's, yeah. It's like we want to root for Lubin, but it's like Yeah, I do actually.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

I don't. I'm an Ortiz fan. I'm gonna root for Ortiz. He was we met Ortiz, he was cool as shit to us.

SPEAKER_06 53:07

Um the pressure his the pressure is gonna be too much for him.

SPEAKER_04 53:12

But um I do want to say I don't know much about Lupin that much. I haven't watched, I've seen some of his fights, but it's not like so.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

In in like the the boxing circuits out here, everyone's a huge fan of Lubin. Like everyone says he he's the the best boxer they've ever sparred with. He's he's smart, he has ring IQ. Just the problem with he just uh I mean the Fondora fight was a was an instant classic with him. Just and then uh his only issue is you gotta beat Fondora. You knocked him down, you know what I mean? You gotta finish him, you gotta finish him. And size, I think, is an issue. Just but but again, uh I'm very high on Virgil Ortiz Jr. He's not a fighter like Sebastian Fondora. Sebastian Fondora gets his power from the leverage of how tall he is, yeah, and he's a dog for how tall he is. But uh Virgil Ortiz Jr. gets his his power and leverage from from his body and his punching, you know what I mean? Like it's a different type of of power that he's possessing, and I just think Lubin is is not gonna be able to withstand that.

SPEAKER_06 54:17

And Ortiz, but his um his um defense got better, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

He's been getting better, progressively getting better, faced way better opposition aside from Fondora.

SPEAKER_06 54:27

I don't think he versed his style though, too. Though this is gonna be a different style.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

But Madramov, Madramov was a close fight, but Ortiz won versus Madramov.

SPEAKER_06 54:34

Yeah, he's jerky. That's why it's hard. That's a that's a hard fight. Now this is a slick fight. I don't know if he ever fought like somebody like you're right.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

But I think his pressure would definitely and and he he got better at countering, and like Lubin, it's like a counter versus counter fighter, and and Lubin just gonna be a great matchup, then I just Lubin's gonna get hit with some shit, man. Yeah, that's the only thing that when he gets hit is he's gonna slow him down from an already fighter that takes a minute to warm up is gonna be slowed down quick. Just my opinion. Um, no, no. Kai says Fandora is a cheat code at 54. You know what, Willie? How much time you got? It's 756. You got like 20 more minutes. Yo, Kai, you want to pop in too? We're gonna have a four-way, not sexually. We're gonna do a little four-way action. Bro, you forgot to say pause, man.

SPEAKER_04 55:22

You forgot to say pause. Pause.

SPEAKER_02 55:25

Yeah, pause. I don't know, whatever. Four-way, man. I'm just claiming you know, this this is.

Shakur In Camp, Gym Politics, Sparring Webs

SPEAKER_04 55:29

We're growing adults, man. We're grown adults, we're not part of this new gen, man.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

I think I think Kai's out of Australia, too. So if you want to pop in Kai, just let me know. We'll do a little four action and get his opinions, maybe mix it up a little more, and then we'll get out of here. Willie's a working man, he's got a real a real job. This boxing, as you probably know, this boxing shit doesn't really generate a lot of money for us.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

It doesn't, no, no. I mean, unless until you make it to a level that like you're getting offers and you're getting paid for a couple of hours, loads of money, then you're not making offer.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Do you just go as like a fan to these events in the UK? Are you are you getting press passes?

SPEAKER_04 56:08

I get press passes, yeah. I get passports because I've like kind of networked with a lot of people around me. So thankfully, like the they've been very supportive, like from the beginning, like everybody's been very supportive. As soon as I've I just literally I'm the kind of person I'll DM every fighter, every promoter, and I'll ask them, Oh, can I come to a show, please? It's free. I'm gonna come there, I'm gonna do interview fighters, I'll post them, I'll collaborate with you. Yeah, they'll say yes, they'll say no.

SPEAKER_02 56:40

Yeah, yeah. I'm like the opposite. I just yeah, I want to just go as a fan and get rowdy and drunk like a real fucking you know, degenerate.

SPEAKER_04 56:48

I mean, you've got to enjoy yourself, man. Why not? Sometimes I miss doing that, sometimes I miss it. Sometimes I wish I could just go there and just have a couple of drinks and stuff, but the passion kicks in. I'm like, nope, grab the mic, grab the stuff, go there. But uh yeah, no, um I'm enjoying the journey, man. I'm enjoying the journey.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

And how long, how long have you been doing your um shout out your uh what is it? Kai Castra Castra Boxing TV Castra Boxing TV. Obviously, based more UK, UK fan base, but what um uh hold on. Uh Kai says, I'll come on, say G Day, boys. Good day, I think that means. I don't know. All right, I'm gonna send him. But yeah, go ahead. What um what uh what did I just say?

SPEAKER_04 57:34

Oh it's just been a couple of months, actually. It's only been really yeah. I've no obviously the idea, the idea was very crazy. I was on on holiday on my birth my friend's birthday.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yeah, it's jet blue. Oh, you gonna know about that?

SPEAKER_06 57:55

Is it jet two holiday?

SPEAKER_01 57:56

No, it says jet blue. No, it's jet.

SPEAKER_06 57:58

How are you gonna tell me?

SPEAKER_01 57:59

I know the jet two holiday.

SPEAKER_06 58:02

Why would it be jet blue? No, no, it's right now you can you can say 50 pounds per person, just 200 pounds off for a family of people.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

Is basic name of uh a company like you could like fly with, isn't it? So they have like offers and then they just made it into like a meme now.

SPEAKER_06 58:17

Nothing beats a jet two, yeah. I thought I thought it was jet blue. You could say 50 pounds per person is 200 pounds off for the hell's jet for what's jet two?

SPEAKER_02 58:24

Is that in in the UK?

SPEAKER_06 58:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you you don't know nothing about the you don't know nothing about you don't know nothing about the beta squad and everybody over there, man. You don't know, you know beta squad. Nope, yeah, yeah, I know you don't know beta squad, man. The side men over there, you don't know, you don't know nothing about the UK, bro.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

Real quick, I'm just looking speaking to Jarrell Miller. He just posted God works in mysterious ways.

SPEAKER_04 58:51

What's meant for you will always be your I think he might be a fighting Joel Miller, you know.

SPEAKER_02 58:57

AJ might be getting he might be getting hey, you never know, man. AJ that that fight generates a lot of money for AJ.

SPEAKER_04 59:05

Um, yeah, and and also baby, I think baby um AJ, like even if it doesn't happen now, I always want to see it. It's just because of the energy between them from the start.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Yeah, yeah. I was very upset when that happened. Uh yeah, I'm not we're not gonna speak on it because uh we know the guy is very upset when that happened, but a lot of drama involved in there. Um, yeah, it's unfortunate. Heavyweight boxing's fun, man. And we gotta give it up to the UK guys because you guys are running heavyweight, you know. Maybe the other weight classes, you guys might need some work, but heavyweight boxing, you guys are are really really holding holding that torch for heavyweight boxing.

SPEAKER_04 59:44

Yeah, I mean Use got all the belts, so we yeah, true. We do have the guns, but he's he's got the brain, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

He but you know, at least Usik's fighting fighting those guys. Hold on, I think Kai just It's about to pop in too. Oh, he also has clothes on, I think. Yeah, what up, man? Two for two.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:06

It's always a win.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

What's going on? Can you hear us? Yeah, yeah, we're good, boys. All right. So this is a this is a first in spar in history. We got uh two. I know Kai, you've been a fan for a while. I just saw the DM from you, Casa. If I'm saying that wrong, just no no no, you're saying absolutely fine. That's funny, yeah. Uh but all right, Kai, I think you're a pro, right? Are you in Australia? Yeah. Tell us about yourself for our listeners.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

Um, I'm 25, six pro fights, haven't haven't been beaten yet. Uh, I'm currently fighting it super well to wait, come up from come up from welter. Okay, nice. Um I just won a regional WBC title in my last fight, so I should enter the top 30 rankings, I think, when the next rankings come out. Good stuff. Oh, hold on, man. Yeah, cheers.

Live Call-Ins From UK And Australia

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

Um, you know Matt Floyd? Sorry? Australia? Matt Matt Floyd from Australia.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:04

Oh, I know I've seen him fight before, but I I don't know him personally. Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:09

Um, so what what is it like in what time is it in Australia right now, first of all?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:14

Uh it's midday on Monday.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Oh, nice. Midday.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:18

God, it's Monday.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

Monday. In the UK, it's like midnight right now, right? It's like one o'clock, guys. Yeah, 1 a.m.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:29

God damn. Why are you not asleep?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

I was watching, I was watching Netflix. I'm talking to you guys, texting. I saw you guys pop up live and then I had to remove my monitor, I put my new monitor away straight away, set my desktop, and then yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:48

Again, I'm just happy you guys are closed. Uh closed. I'm not this internet stuff gets wild. I'm happy Willie has clothes on, he likes to come here naked. What?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:56

Never, I don't think I'm black. Yeah, why can't you do that? Why can't black people come in?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

He really does the off-camera. That's what he said.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:09

Um the lights off.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:12

Kai, so so what's what's it like in Australia? What's the boxing circuit like? I know you guys have been making some moves. I love the heavyweight that top rank has with you guys. We we saw him. Uh is he Australian? Yeah, uh, Terra Moana. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. What what's it like over there? Like, uh is spar is finding sparring hard? Is is box is the boxing scene like exploding over there? I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:38

Uh, in the last like three, four years, I'd say it's blown up huge with the promotion they put behind Tim Zoo and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

Uh-huh. Tim Zoo, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:46

Uh Tim Zoo. At a local level, it's been massive for a while now, which has been good. Like like the club shows and stuff like that. Yeah, the club shows have been big like big. There's plenty of kids in the amateur circuit now, which is good. They're still still starting to break through into the Olympics and stuff like that, but there's starting to be a lot more.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:03

Did did the the Devin Haney fights in Australia? Did that really help help with that? Like having a guy like that come over there?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:10

It was definitely, yeah, it was definitely huge. It was definitely huge that George got to bring a few big international opponents over, and the the shows were good to go to live.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

Are you friendly with George at all?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

Or uh no, I've don't think I've ever actually even met him. I've met his dad a couple of times, Jim. That manages him.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:27

Yeah, his family was cool. I ain't gonna lie. They was they was cool as hell. He was right next to them.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:32

We hung out with them ringside versus um Africa. We call them out here, but uh tough loss for him there. But yo, I gotta say, in in boxing personality-wise, right? I like I like George so much because you could talk shit to him, right? Because I'm a TO guy. So I was talking all kinds of, and he was responding and just giving it to me. Like, like, like good comebacks and insults, and I'll he called me a pelican, it was fucking great. I was like, this guy is and I and I like to see that from from him, uh, from from fighters in general, so at that level, you know. Uh yeah, that's really it. We're we're talking about Lubin and Virgil Ortiz Jr. I know you have your opinion on it. Well, what round do you think it's gonna stop? Why, how? Give me your take.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:17

I think I think Virgil's gonna do him within six rounds. I think just the work right and the power that he's shown in his last couple fights. I think he's just gonna run straight through him.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

Yeah, I I I think that's the common denominator here. I believe I hope I hope Lubin's definitely gonna try and run. I don't want to say run, but he's gonna try and slickly outbox and be a half step ahead. It's just that explosiveness is just you can't teach that.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:43

Yeah, his explosiveness is super slick. I just think the output is just gonna be way too much for him.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:48

Yeah, um, yeah, that's really it. Boxing, unfortunately. We have you guys on, it's great, but boxing is kind of in a little mainstream boxing right now, is in a little bit of a dead zone. Um, let me ask you guys this, and I was gonna we'll we'll close it out with this. We'll keep it rolling because we went for about an hour now, and Willie here you can ask him about Yari and him, you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:08

Yeah, we could talk about Benavidez yard.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:10

I think Benavidez Yard is gonna be a little bit of the same thing, though. I think Benavidez is gonna kind of steamroll Yari.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:16

You think so?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:16

Uh he got something to fight.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:18

I think Yari got a little dog in him to get.

Ortiz vs Lubin: Styles, Pressure, Power

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Yeah, but that high guard, I don't think he's gonna be able to get around. And I don't know. Benavidez has been on a tear, he he he knows he gets a lot of shit because he his footwork looks bad, and and everything he does for the boxing mind doesn't look like what a what a great boxer should do. But he's been like that his whole career, and he's been plugging dudes up, you know, like he's been he's been just listening.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:47

I hope that's uh that whole card is amazing. So I hope every fight is gonna be good. I hope every fight on that card. Oh we got Bam on that card, we got uh Adula Mason on that card. There's a lot of people on that card.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Top rank mix mixing in with it's it's good, it'll be good. But but so so speaking of David Benavitas, the question I was gonna ask was and we'll we'll go around, we'll go around. You guys could hear me, right? You're good, yeah. All right, just making sure it has got time. I didn't hear anything about it. You're the boss, so no, no, I'm like, oh shit. My internet's been going fucking in and out, and we're all on different freaking continents. So um, I was gonna say, and I'll go first, and then we'll Willie, you'll go, and then um, I guess Kai, you'll go, and then uh Caras, you'll go. So uh who who do you think? And we'll close out the show with this because again, we've been going for about an hour now. Who do you think is the boogeyman of boxing right now? Who is the boogeyman? That terminology boogeyman for me, for me, mine is Benavidez. Only because you got um what's his name? Uh the two light heavyweights that that have that uh pivot and Biterbia, right? There were supposed to be fights versus Benavidez versus him. That didn't happen. We know what happened with Benavidez and Canelo. Um Benavidez is fighting, challenging guys and real boxers, and just beating the bricks off them. So for me, the boogeyman is Benavidez, and that's my reason why. Uh and you, in my opinion, and you guys could argue with me all you want, I'm here for it. There's no there's nobody, there's nobody out there that's like saying, Hey, I want to fight Benavidez. You know what I mean? And and again, I know he he doesn't really have belts, but he's he's trying, he's trying to get belts. He he's willing to go down to 168 to get the belts. He jumped up to 175 to get the belts, and now Pival and Better B have are showing things a little out of character. I know they got hurt, I guess they both had surgeries. So it's just weird to see now all of a sudden there's a here's Benavidez in the division, and now, oh no, well, we're gonna have we're gonna we would fight anybody, but we're gonna fight, keep fighting each other. You know, just it's just very odd to me. Um, who do you got, Willie?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:04

I'm not sure. I'm I'm still thinking. Go ahead, y'all. I don't know. I'm still thinking right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:10

I put him on the spot with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:12

Yeah, I'm I'm boss now. Because you said you got David, and then you could agree. I would say, I would say Arthur though.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:20

You think he's a he's a boogeyman? He's fucking fruit flies, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:22

Yeah, I uh he was he was definitely I don't know how bivel uh bivel was the only one pretty much that took me to say that I still like Arthur, man. He's he was a lot of people scared of him.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:34

Yeah, I can agree with that. I could see but you know who's not scared of him? Benavitas.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:39

Was it how that fight the day? We're waiting.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:41

Is Bivill and Better Beaver and now Bivil Bivill is another one.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:45

He's older now.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Now Bivil, it seems like is just waiting, waiting for better be have to get old. Like I guess I it turns out they did have a surgery, there was an injury, but it's I mean he took all them damn punches. That rematch was supposed to happen.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:57

He needed a rest.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:58

He fought author twice.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:01

Yeah, I know, I agree. You're right. You're right. I I'm I'm taking it. And they were both close fights. So and he lasted. But but he's getting older, dude. He's getting older.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:12

He's getting older though.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:13

Um all right. One of you, whoever, who who who do you got? The boogeyman of boxing right now, active boxing, and why if if you can.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:23

I think I think Buckram's got to be pretty far up there. He's a he's a world champion, and no one wants any part of him at all. Yeah, he doesn't bring much in the way of popularity, and he's just super dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:34

I I can see that too. That's a good a lot of the the the Eastern European guys that there's even names we probably don't even know. They're like top 20 in whatever weight class. Probably the same same thing, where just they're not marketable enough and and and they are nasty and possess power. But but you're right, he he has a belt, and you know, the the point of the belts is to chase the belts, and and nobody's really nobody's really saying nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:59

Although I heard Josh Kelly's taking that fight, though. What do you reckon happens there, Casra?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:04

Yeah, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:06

Oh, um he'll put me on the spot there. Hey, I wasn't ready for that punch.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

Um oh, I like that. That was like I'm dead. That was like some chat GPT shit. I wasn't ready for that point. That was good. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:24

He beat battle rabbit.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:27

Um Josh Kelly, Josh Kelly is an excellent fighter. He's he's a good boxer, but I don't know. Some of these, look, I know I'm from UK, some of these UK fighters they get a bit too hyped, they get a bit too much, too much. Um because of the the audience, we are very passionate, passionate, and we back any fighter that comes from us, they'll make them make, right? Like I can give you a name. I love the guy, like Connor Ben, right? He hasn't fought a world champion yet. Oh god. Oh god. So so he hasn't fought any world champion yet, but they make him look like he's world class and he's one of the ghosts, like his dad. No, he doesn't come close to his dad. Yeah, so Josh Kelly is an excellent fire, so I think that's a good test for him. So that's a good good, that's a good fight for him, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:27

I mean, I think I think he steams steamrolls Josh Kelly, in my opinion, too. Yeah, kind of based off like what what you said, but but again, the the UK fighters, the uh the circuit, like that's kind of like Australia. You are as good as who you spar, you know, and and the UK fighters tend to just stay within their their their realm of sparring partners of of that little UK circuit or whatever city they're from, you know. And and like when with the Eastern Europeans, they're never really home, so they're they're always just going around and they're dogs.

Who’s The Boogeyman: Benavidez, Beterbiev, Bakhram

SPEAKER_04 1:11:59

Or they have people coming over, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

Or they're just you know what I mean. That they're they're traveling sparring. So that that's why I think and and power once Josh Kelly gets gets nipped with some of that.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:09

Saying that, did you know? Um, this might not even be relevant, but uh, did you know Yusik had uh Fabio Woodley uh in his account at one point? Yeah, before he was even a pro, too. Exactly. That's crazy. Yeah, so these they don't mess around, these these um like Eastern European fight, like Russians, and they don't mess around, so they go around, they fight every style, they they train with every style. That's why they're so great at what they don't what they do.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:41

But but based on based off that, Usik's another one. Usik's another one that doesn't really have a home, you know. You Ukraine, we all know what's going on in Ukraine. You can't really fight there. Well, you can fight, just not boxing Ukraine right now. So so he's another one that's just traveling around, doesn't have like a home. I think he kind of had a fight in like Poland, and a lot a lot of the Ukrainians came and showed out there with with um with Fury, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:06

Yeah, yeah. I think sorry, Dubar, yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:10

It was Dubar. Um that's my guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:13

I like Dubar. Y'all like Dubar? Dubar's cool, man. Dubar's good. Everybody likes Dubar. I thought I was like only one. I thought I was the only one that liked Dubois.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

He's a nice guy. No, no, Dubar.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:25

I love Dubar, man. There's nothing that Dubar has done.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:29

You a hater, you a hater.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

I think Dubois is slightly overrated. That's all slightly overrated.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:35

Yeah, what is it? No, no, they they didn't he knock out all the bullets in that first fight, or not?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:43

Because everybody's full. It's it's like what they did uh with Nganu. I'll give you an example like Engano against Fury and then England against Joshua. They hyped up Nganu because he dropped Fury, then he got slept on against Joshua, right? Yeah, so it's the same thing. Like they thought Daniel Dubar, he just knocked out AJ, so he's gonna smash up Isik. Then what happened? So they kind of put too much pressure on him and make I just think Dub Dubois to me, he's just a one-two puncher.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:15

One-two, one-two, one-two, one-two, one-two. Very good, no combos. Yeah, yeah. And he got no head movement, and he's he's only funny because you don't know what the fuck he's talking about ever. That's just my opinion. It's like was classic. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Nice guy, though. Very nice guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:36

It's like he they trained a dude from Goonies.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:38

Um, let me okay, we'll we'll get a little off track since since we're we're here yapping away. Let me hear who your your boogeyman is, and then I have another question since we have a UK fan here. Um Boogeyman. Somebody that everyone's scared to fight. We don't know why. Well, we may know why. We have a J Pool. Yeah, he's the money man. Everybody wants to fight him. Nobody I think everyone in this convo would fight him if he called. Right? That's that's the moneyman, winner loser.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

Hey, listen, I'll pull my I'll pull my girls back on, man. I'll fight him anything.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:18

I'm a fat loser. I'll fight Jake Paul tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:21

Yeah, for that money. I need about like three weeks, four weeks of training with good amount of uh resources and who is it though?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:31

Who is it? Who is it? He's deflecting. I see what he's doing. Who's your boogeyman?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:36

Um boogeyman. No, no, no. Well, if you're thinking about, well, if you go back a couple of years ago, yeah, maybe. But uh before he lost and how big he was and stuff, but um now I would say I don't know, it's really hard. I don't know who's who's blocking who now, like who like there's no that many big fights happening.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:05

A lot of people say boots is a boogeyman.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

Yeah, there's like boots boots is I mean what okay. Well what's your take on boots, guys?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:16

Huge, huge, huge fan of boots. I I said to a lot of people when Bud moved up that he was gonna be the one to clean out 147, but he just sort of hasn't really had the opportunity or hasn't really taken the opportunity with the top guys yet. Uh I mean, but why? That's the thing. Yeah, that's it. Like Match Room, Match Room's promoting by pumping the ties up the best, the best fighter of the world better than Crawford, but then he's fighting like Uzma Lima instead of any of the top 20 killers.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:46

So you agree, you agree then with like you can't be mentioning Crawford right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

Maybe it's something like I think he's got the potential and skill-wise, he's there, but they're just they're not proving it. Ah, I love this guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:58

Shirts coming, man, getting you a shirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:00

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

What's that? You said medium, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:04

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

It gets cold in Australia, right? I'm brain.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:08

Yeah, always.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:10

Especially in Melbourne. I'm gonna send you a I'm gonna send you a hoodie too. You're gonna get a hoodie. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'll give you one too over in the UK. Well, I gotta get I gotta get you. I gotta get your I gotta get your opinion first. Um what do you think of Itama, Moses Atama? Overrated, same thing with boots, kind of.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:29

What's um no, great fighter, uh skillful, fast. Um I think they're building him properly. Like they they're giving him the right opponents, yeah. So so if he follows the right opponents and follows the right footsteps of the obviously the right team around him, not a yes man, but you know, the right team, then he will become a world champion 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:56

Do you think he could beat a guy? Like because Richard Torres, as we talked about, um is is name dropping him, and it seems like he really wants that.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

Do you think he's a guy like Richard Torres?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:07

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:07

I felt I felt like yeah, he can. Yeah, the power, the skill. I think that's a fun fight, though. Oh, so fun. So many variables could happen in that.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

I think I think Richard brings something he hasn't really seen before either, like that constant output and pressure. Like, I don't think he's got anyone who'll really come after him like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:24

Like he's he's he's so great to me because of his footwork and at heavyweight and his like his in-and-out movements, kind of like Usyk. Why Usyk's so so good at heavyweight? Usyk's a little smarter too, but like Usyk. Um, but that all goes out the window when you got a guy like Richard Torres just coming non-stop. And he has it, he showed his chin is decent. He he's has that stamina for for a long time at heavyweight. That's an awesome fight, man. That that could sell out in the UK, that could sell out in in one of the smaller venues here, at least. That that's an amazing uh fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:59

Um, that's an excellent fight, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:02

And then we'll we'll close out with this last question because I was getting I don't know who the hell this guy was. You some of you UK fans uh you gotta pipe down a little too. Somebody was going off on me, like DMing me and shit about how Fury's not retired. I I posted something on like the Ring magazine's post and I was like, Fury's retired. Why are you guys including him in the rankings? Am I wrong for that?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:22

Like, no, no, you're not.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:24

She's not being the rankings. Look, if AJ's not said that he's retired and hasn't fought this year and has been taken out, how is Fury saying he's retired?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:33

He's still number one, and he's still yeah, like it doesn't make any sense, and it kind of loses because I always liked the ring, but it shows now with maybe maybe not the Saudi influence. There's a little bias that's going on now.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:46

You know who owns it now.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:47

Yeah, like it's it's it's it's kind of ruining the ring, was the only thing we really had belt wise with credibility, and now it's like okay, Fury's retired. He said he's retired, he's probably doing coke again.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:59

Look, Fury just wants attention, Fury just wants people to beg him to come back.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:04

But this wasn't what he's been he didn't put himself in the rankings, they did. No, I I I know, but it's it's it's just very odd to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:13

It's just what he does, like he'll come out and say, Yeah, I'm not fighting ever again, and then tomorrow he will say, I want to fight for three billion.

UK Heavyweights, Fury’s Status, AJ Debate

SPEAKER_02 1:20:22

So but but like we know we we know he's gonna we know he's like that, but like when you say you're retired, you should be deemed retired. Like, yeah, exactly, exactly. But he should just there is rumors that he's coming back. There is rumors. That's why that's so that was my question. He'll be back. Anthony Joshua versus Tyson Fury. You said you're an Anthony Joshua fan.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:44

Who you got and why AJ will wipe him off, AJ will wipe him off. Yeah, wipe him off the floor. Use him, use him for mop, mop mop on the floor.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:55

Now you gotta say pause.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:58

Oh yeah, pause, pause, pause.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:00

AJ would whack him off.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:02

That that would be no why I I have great backing for that. Look, look at the resume between AJ and Feary. Yep. Right? Who did Feary really fought in his career? You would say Trezora, Vladimir, Wilder, but I don't even put Wilder in the ranking like that, but Wilder and then Usick. So if you minus that, you'll only come up with two names, credible, right? Which is Vladimir and Usick.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:35

Is it? I mean that's the thing. But as we all but as we all know, styles make fights 100%.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:42

But he doesn't even have a chendo for Usick. I mean, in theory. But he gets up, he does get up, and and came back from the dead against Waldo.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

Yeah, like why are we still in dead?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:52

He really did. He really, he really did.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:54

But again, you could argue Ngana. When Nganu knocked him down, he came back and and earlier in his career he Yeah, but he only won well by a point against Ngwana.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:05

I mean, I think that's embarrassing as a boxer.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:08

No, he was he looked like shit when he went into that fight. He came out of retirement.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:12

You could say that against Yusuf, AJ and who do you think fought Usik better?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:21

Joshua or Fury?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:23

Second fight, Joshua. First fight against Joshua, Usak was bad. And then I would say the first fight Fury did better against Usick than his second fight.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:35

What about you? Uh who do you got?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:37

But very close fight. I've I think Fury would probably outbox AJ. I think just the in-and-out movement and stuff like that's probably too good for him because he's so heavy on his feet. AJ looks like he got slow, right? AJ's got that monster right hand, man. I wouldn't be surprised if you just put him into the shadow realm out of nowhere. Excellent. Yeah, excellent.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:56

Yeah, but I don't think who has AJ really fought with head movement like Fury, though, you know, like yeah, Usick. Yeah, but Usix's movement's not like Fury's movement, you know, like that herky jerky.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:06

Yeah, but who beats who though? What? Like Usick beat Fury. So I mean, yeah. So yeah, but he also beat Joshua. Yeah, exactly. So now we we're gonna we just Fury come out of retirement.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:20

So we gotta basically see who's second. You know what it is?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:25

I'm a big boxing fan, and I'm just disappointed that Fury has just played so many games all these years. Like that's why I sound like a hater, but I'm not a hater of Fury. I met his dad, I met his brother, I'm at all his like yeah, you know, I've got his um he's one of his coaches' numbers. Like I met randomly, like his bro, I mean he's uh you know um Hugi Fury, you know um for a heavyweight, yeah. Exactly. He was meant, yeah, yeah. He's he's gonna fight soon as well. He yeah, I was gonna say, isn't he fighting in a couple weeks? Yeah, he's gonna fight soon as well. I gotta forgot.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:01

I almost feel bad for him though, because he's good, he's good and it's heavyweight, it's wide open. Anything could happen, and he's slick for a heavyweight, but like he he's just always you hear fury, you don't think of Huey, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:12

Like, yeah, because obviously Tyson Fury is is is the name of the thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:17

And that name, his name's Tyson, his name's Huey. I'm just saying, right? But listen, I mean, we could go back and forth all day, whatever, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:28

No, no, but uh like I don't you don't even know, like yes, um like uh Kai said, he he could outbox Joshua because Joshua can't outbox theory.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:39

That's that's what Joshua has Joshua for me has very bad confidence issues. His confidence is big time now, yeah. Yeah, like like very, very that that was the downfall of of Joshua.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:52

The c and then the UK fan are horrible. The UK fan is horrible.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:56

His trash talking sucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:58

Yeah, because he's never done it, like he he he tries to be something he's not, like he tries to be like a bad boy, but he's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:07

Just be a nice guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:08

I know, I know him, trust me. He said something what he talks, he he he did back, so uh I promise he said something once he was like, Yeah, you know, I grew up selling weed.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:21

Like, oh yeah, that's true. So did like my little sister. Like everyone else.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:27

I'm just no no, I know, but but in the UK is it's it's different. Like when you when you do all these things and like he's been on the streets and stuff. He actually went to the same college as my dad. He used to be in the same gym as my dad, actually. So he went to college. Uh yeah, he went to college. It's not that hard, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:45

He's not that like gangster, just be yourself. Yeah, that's true, man. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:50

A lot of people don't like him here, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:52

A lot of people then just he's gotta be himself, it's just be filling fate sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:56

Like it, and then maybe it's his accent. I don't know. And that's just from us. We're in New York, so it's it's we hear things differently, you know. Like again, it who knows. Um but yeah, that that's that's really. I mean, I'm I'm a Fury guy, I like Fury. I I I knew Usyk was gonna beat him, and I said that. I it's on record. I said Usyk was gonna beat him.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:17

It's on my last one question. Yeah, ask a million for for a comeback. What do you think Fury should do for a comeback fight? Who do you think is the best fight for him? In my opinion, I got one name.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:31

AJ's the fight would make sense.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:33

Well, I I think so. Because AJ is my fight end of this year, right? Uh surprisingly, he's gonna end up fighting this year, end of this year. So that's why they want to make the fight against Fury maybe April next year. That's what I'm guessing. Or end of towards the June time. So if Fury was supposed to come back and fight someone in the top 10 or 15, who do you think he will fight?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:01

I mean, it depends on where it is. Fury sells wherever. Obviously, in the UK, it explodes. Fury versus anyone is just massive. Um, it can't be Trezora again, because he's giving him enough. I went to that one. Yeah, which one? And a free ticket. Yeah, which one? So then they fought enough. Um the third one, I wonder the third one, yeah. Honestly, I mean, they they they're they kind of are trying to bring Dillian White back. Uh I I I I think Fury beats him. That's easy money for Fury, but Dillian White still is a draw in the UK, as you know. So if you could promote a Dillian White Fury fight, no, Dillian White is fighting Chizoro. Is he good enough?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:46

That was off.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:46

Yeah, they're like confused. The the contract messed up, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:49

Yeah, the contract wants a bit more money. Tesoro just talks, man. Chizoro just wants more money. He just messes around, man. He they they're gonna fight.

Zhang, Kabayel, And Future Heavyweight Tests

SPEAKER_02 1:27:59

You know what? You know what is a good fight and a big fight in the UK, and there used to be beef. Uh, there's not now. There used to be real beef, is Jarrell Miller and um uh what's his name? Uh fucking Chesoro. No, no, they're friends. Dillian White. Dillian White and Jarrell Miller.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:15

Yeah, that's a good that's a good, but I think uh baby Miller will kill him though.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:19

Yeah, if he's in shape, yes, I think so too.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:21

Yeah, but no, not even in shape. Uh, I think Dillion White is just done now.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:26

Who'd you have though? Who'd you have? You started it with saying uh he just get put out cabal. Oh well, he's like he's a boogeyman, he could be your boogeyman. I thought some yeah, I thought somebody was gonna say I thought somebody was gonna say him. Uh Jick Caball is a boogeyman of the heavyweight division. He's he's definitely up there. I've never seen any body punch like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:46

No, no, no. So that's what I'm saying. If Fury comes back and fight with him, I'll give him credit for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:51

Yeah, what about Zhang for Fury?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:55

I think Zang, I think Zang catches Fury and knocks him out.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:59

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:00

That's true. I think Zang I love Zang. Zhang's never been in a fight and not knock someone down. How crazy is that? I think maybe uh the Croatian dude like lasted, but on the Hergovich, yeah. And I oh no, I think he got knocked down too, maybe. He might have got knocked down too. But actually, Jarrell Miller said to us, I I asked him once, like this is years ago, too. And I was like, Who's like the the hardest puncher you've ever sparred with or fought with? And he was like, Zhang, and I didn't really even know Zhang was I didn't really know of him that well when he told me this. And now going out of nowhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:31

Did you know Zhang fought AJ before? Yeah, was it Olympics?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:38

Yeah, um, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:40

Zhang and yo, Zhang, we've met him a bunch of times. He's awesome. He has his translator with him 24 7. Like, it's awesome. Oh, he's fine. I bang you. Yeah, yeah, he's awesome. But yo, uh, everyone, everyone I've spoken to honestly says, Yo, that guy could hit that guy could, and then you look, he like like Parker, he knocked. Them down twice and fucking he can fucking hit. Um, but I think I think because he's a smart boxer too, like pure boxer for heavyweight. I think he could catch fury. I think he could catch fury. He can beats both all of them. If he moved around too much, though. I think a lot. I think a jit and if Atama Moses Atama is who they say he is, I think a jit versus him is a massive fight. I just think for whatever reason, like they put those heavyweights um the last uh what was the last fight that uh we watched? Uh Parker, the Parker card. Yeah, they they put the heavyweights up, uh the UK heavyweights, and they were like promoting them and they were like talking to them. Did you see that? It was like six of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:41

None of them really seemed that interested in talking to each other to each other. And usually patting each other on the back.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:46

And heavyweights are supposed to be like funny, like they're the they're like in in the NFL, they say the linemen, the big guys are like the funniest guys ever. And then you you hear them talking, like, yo, those guys are fucking funny. Yeah, I was looking at that, I'm like, yo, you guys like living it up. And luckily, Jarrell Miller popped in and like at least and you know, say what you want about him.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:04

He joked, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:06

He was like the Miller, man. Maybe yeah, but his character. I like him.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:13

Listen, uh, good speaking, you all. We we've been on for too long. My ass is hurting. Again, I'm happy you guys are are dressed. Uh we'll have you guys on again. Uh yeah, I know I already got your info. DM me your your mailing address and and I'll send you I'll send you uh some shirts or whatever. I have like an order coming in. I definitely have some hoodies lying around. Oh, thank you. I don't know what Willie's doing with the ones I keep giving him, but uh wiping my ass with him. But but I'll I'll get you guys some some free stuff and and just real quick at the end of the show, just shout out your your Instagrams or handles for we we do more listeners on the radio than we do like anywhere else. We're trying the social media thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:52

Thank you, man. Appreciate you guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:55

We always we always love chopping it up with actual professional boxers too. So so shout yourself out, man. And and what what when is your next fight?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:05

I'm not sure. It's looking it's looking like probably February next year. Just just waiting to get something locked in.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:10

Okay, and and is it all your fights are in Australia?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:14

Yeah, so far, so far. Hopefully, start branching out soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:17

Okay, so if you ever make to the states, obviously you know, hit us up, we'll uh we'll yeah, 100% we'll link up. If it's on the east coast for sure, we'll we'll show up for sure. I haven't been to Vegas yet, though, on purpose, because uh it it checks off all my issues. So I'm I'm I don't I purposely have not gone there, but what were you gonna say and then we'll go?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:37

No, I was gonna say hi. Um I'm an ad you, bro, so we can yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:42

I'll see you messing for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:44

Yeah, please do, please do. Yeah, it'll be my pleasure. And boys, thank you for having me. It was all right, guys. So I'll rather talk about boxing, so why not, man? Anytime and this is a first.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:57

This is a first enjoy your rest of your Monday. Enjoy the rest of your day. God damn, we're gonna go to bed now. Take care, guys. Later, y'all. Uh cheers, boys.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:10

Thank you. Nice one, boys. Thank you.