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THE SPAR-INN BOXING PODCAST
Why Inoue vs Nakatani Matters And How Sanctioning Bodies Keep Ruining The Party
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We chum it up over a wild week in boxing: Navarrete’s awkward mastery, Inoue vs Nakatani at the Tokyo Dome, Jai Opetaia caught between Zuffa and the IBF, and whether Mayweather and Pacquiao at the Sphere is irresistible spectacle or a nostalgia play. We also track MVP’s ESPN move, women’s boxing momentum, and the contract mess holding up Ortiz vs Ennis.
• Navarrete’s stop-start rhythm and how to beat chaos at 130
• Foster, Roach, and the unification paths at super featherweight
• Inoue vs Nakatani stakes, styles, and upset routes
• Opetaia vs Glanton preview and sanctioning body power struggle
• Zuffa’s belt strategy versus alphabet authority
• MVP’s ESPN deal and women’s boxing rising profile
• Golden Boy vs Vergil Ortiz Jr and the Ennis fight in limbo
• Mayweather vs Pacquiao 2 at the Sphere as event economics
• Dream undercards and crossover promotions
• Upcoming interviews and live watch plans
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Live Starts, Tech Hiccups, Tonight’s Agenda
SPEAKER_01What up, what up? Welcome to Spar Inboxing Podcast. Puma and Willie back at ya. Here we are. What up, Willie? What up, yeah? What up, Sparring? Yeah. What are you over there gambling, Willie?
SPEAKER_02All the time. Willie the gambler. Getting killed.
SPEAKER_01Oh, man.
SPEAKER_02I'm getting killed. What up, yeah? What up, sparring? What up? What's going on? Puma, what's going on, man? We live. I'm gonna pull up to the live. I need a thousand likes right now.
SPEAKER_01I don't think we are live yet. What the f.
SPEAKER_02Come on, man.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I think I know why. Hold on. Oh, yeah. Hold on. Oh, we are live now. What up, y'all? Again, as usual, technical difficulties. Puma and Willie, if it's small on YouTube, it is small on YouTube because I don't know what the hell I'm doing still. Uh Willie, you're sorted in the screen. If you could just move a little. There we go. Yeah. Look at that. In the screen. Lots to talk about. A lot of news and notes today. Nothing really. Uh well, there's a fight on tonight that we're gonna watch right here. Maybe we'll stay live and watch the fight, just like this. This is what they'll see.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01We want to do it? I'm down. Um, Jai Apatia makes his debut, Willie. Yeah. Well his debut, his Zufa day. Yo, what does Zufa mean? Do you know? Does anyone know? No. I I kind of looked it up too and I didn't see. So does it how you look it up and didn't even see it? It didn't say I couldn't find it. It was just like Zufa. Uh, what's his face made it up? Zufa. Anyway, pack show today. Lots of news and notes, no real fights to review or preview. Um, we're gonna talk about the Navaretti fight a little bit because we missed last week because we are were snowed in again. Snow. That's all it ever is.
SPEAKER_02It was it snowed last week?
SPEAKER_01I think so, yeah. And I think it just melted like a few days ago, right? Yeah, I think so. I don't know. Maybe we just missed it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02No, I wasn't here.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, that's what it was. But no, oh you yeah, you're at the cheer practice thing. You're right. Uh cheer's cheer thing. Cheer competition. Cheer competition. She win?
SPEAKER_02Uh no, they didn't win this one. They won four out of four, but uh, I mean, you can't win them all, right?
Navarrete–Nunez Recap And Style Debate
SPEAKER_01Um, we also had an interview lined up today, but he is in Cali, so I'm just gonna let him be. He said they hit him up. I'll just let him be. We'll get him when he's back in New York. And then next week we have another interview, two heavyweights back-to-back coming up. So that's cool. That's fire. That's good to know. We're not on air, but we're making little little moves here, little, little baby moves. Um, yeah, but Navarro Navarete Unified. Uh, today's show. We're gonna talk about Inoue and Nakatani. That's set for May 2nd. The IBF won't sanction Jai Apataia. That's tonight versus Glanton. Um, MVP landed an ESPN deal. Golden Boy and Virgil Ortiz Jr. are still in court. They're in divorce court, getting divorced. Ortiz versus Boots Ennis in limbo because of that. And Mayweather versus Pacquiao is coming to us again. Again, we're gonna get May Pac. We've got to talk about that last week, but I have an idea for that fight that we're gonna speak on towards the end. Pretty quick show. Again, we're gonna stay live and watch the fights here. I'll probably be drunk by then, so that should be fun for you guys to see. Yeah, like we're just gonna put it on the TV we're watching right now, we're watching ourselves talk on and put it on there. But what is good, Willie? I haven't seen you in a minute.
SPEAKER_02What up, man? I'm chilling, chilling, bro. Losing these best today. That's about it. Yeah, I had to stop.
SPEAKER_01I'll start again. You know what I did bet tonight, though, Jaya Pataya, eighth round knockout. That's a good one. I had a feeling glant strong though, but we'll talk about that. Did you watch the Navarette fight? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, I watched, I rewatched it, I didn't watch it live though. Oh I was surprised. Uh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Navarette stops Nunes in the 11th round and added another title to his collection. Nunes was fighting man scary, man.
SPEAKER_02Mad early. He was fighting scary.
SPEAKER_01Like scared or scary?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, scary. Like he was scary.
SPEAKER_01Timid. Oh, he was scared. Yeah, well, he's like timid. Yeah, Nunez was scary. He wasn't throwing old punches and that shit. Um, yeah, but that's because Navarre is so big, bro.
SPEAKER_02Like he's big, dude. He was type small. That dude was Nunes was smaller than him.
SPEAKER_01Like he's jacked, Nunes is jacked, but Navaretti's just a big dude. Um, I heard that he he was he got a strength and conditioning coach for this fight, too. And once I heard that, man, I didn't get to put it in, but if I if I would have heard that earlier, I would have put so much money on him because that's his only flaw, dude. Besides the the way he boxes, looks flawed. His only flaw is that he he doesn't care about his health, he looks drunk, he fights a little bit like he's drunk. He's nasty, man. He's easily one of my top five favorites right now.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_01Easily, bro.
SPEAKER_02He fights somebody good, bro. He does what his resume is getting crazy built. Every trip, somebody that got feet and that can move and box, he's getting cooked.
SPEAKER_00You think so?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but there's no how do you train for him? I've been saying now this podcast is like two years in.
SPEAKER_02Because he came in like a and then he got boxed up and moved around, boxed up. Somebody will box his ass up.
SPEAKER_01So that being said, you think it's Oshaki?
SPEAKER_02Oshaki got hype. He just hype, bro.
SPEAKER_01Him versus Oshaki. Oshaki, you don't box him up. Yeah, I hope so. I hope you're right. I just I'm scared for Oshaki because you get hit with Navaretti shit, bro. He's got it's awkward, but it's not like he isn't bro. He's got bam, he's got bam angles with no feet. Like the angles are just coming from his fists. Barely, they're coming from his fist. That's what I'm saying. His body is there, but he's got bam angles, and and they're hit, you're getting hit with these angles, you're like, why is he still in front of me?
SPEAKER_02What's that? He's like that uh not Prince Naeem, I think. It was not the other dude, the drunken master. Yeah, yeah. No, I think that wasn't. No, I think that was just like a nobody.
SPEAKER_01The black the black dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just like a I don't think he was anything special. I've seen that on the internet. But like if you're if you're creating a video game, dude, like you're in a video, you're making a character in a boxing video game, right? There's there's styles that you pick from Orthodox, Southpaw, uh Peekaboo style, Philly Shell, etc. etc. There's a Navarre side. Because there's nothing, there's no style like that. You can't you can't train for that. You can't watch film on that. No, he you know he's flawed, he knows he's flawed, he's got a chin, and he's right there coming.
SPEAKER_02And it looks like he's like he's easily boxable.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, man. I don't know. He's fun to watch, though. He's he's easily fun to watch. Anybody he fights, any fight is Must C TV, and now he's overrated. If he's easy, easy like he's beaten champions, though, bro. He's overrated. I can't wait. I'm gonna win my you remember years ago, years ago, like now I could say that we've been here years. You came over and I was in the red, the red suit, and I had like a sombrero on because it was like a Mexican fight. We watched it here. No, no, oh all right, never mind. That take sucked anyway. Uh, because I was in the red for Mexico and he won me like$750. I bet the round he knocked him out. So you like him because of that? Yeah, it's part of it. Part of it. But dude, his his chaos, like his pressure, but he's like, you you you watch film on him, be like, oh, I could beat this guy. Like you just said, yeah, that's a perfect example. He's gonna get boxed up, and that's what everyone says. And then he gets in there, and everyone's like, and how does he make that weight? Everyone's like, what the fuck? He's he was big, way bigger now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's crazy, dude. I don't think catching him with like some crazy uppercuts.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, what the angles, bro.
SPEAKER_02He's got angles, but you you don't know where they're coming from. It's like Nunes was doing good when he was aggressive, though. You gotta fight, you gotta make him on his back foot, bro. Yeah, you gotta put him on his back foot.
SPEAKER_01But it I don't know. He's you're just every time he fights, you're watching, you're like, How is this working? How is this working? What are they at? 130? 130. He's big at 130, man. But again, that's crazy. I uh Oshaki, I like you know, we I'm a big Oshaki fan too.
SPEAKER_02It's it's Oshaki 130 or 135 right now.
SPEAKER_01I think Oshaki's 130, 130. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's I thought he had the intern belt because um that fight was uh No, I think Oshaki's one that's confusing. Him and Stephen Fole on four at 135.
SPEAKER_01I think that um hold on. Oshaki, wait. I'm getting confused now. All these damn boxer names. Yeah, he was 130, and then he he moved up to 135, I think, just for that. But he's he's 130. Yeah, super featherweight, and he has the WBC super featherweight belt.
SPEAKER_02So he's 130. And the interim at 135.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I don't even think about the interim stuff. I'm just yeah, he fought at 135 for the interim, but he's 130. Um, that's a that's a good fight. That that's what they're talking about. I mean, it's must see TV. Yeah, that's every time this guy fights, it's must see TV.
SPEAKER_02I wish who's the other champion over there?
SPEAKER_01At what, 130? It's that 130 is kind of stacked, bro. So um you got Oshaki.
SPEAKER_02You have Navarate got two belts.
SPEAKER_01Navarate's got two now. And hold on, I'm pulling it up. Because I get 135 and 130 since they bounce. I always mess them up. I get confused because I guess they can make both those weights. Uh oh yeah, Lamont Roach and that's it. Oshaki, Lamont Roach, and Navarrete. But I think Lamont Roach is moving up and staying up. Um, Oshaki Foster versus Navarrete is the fight to make. And if Navarrete beats him, now that's three out of the four. He's gonna snag the WBA. I think he you think Lamont Roach beats him?
SPEAKER_02Huh?
SPEAKER_01Lamont Roach, he's a boxer, right?
SPEAKER_02He's gonna try, he's gonna try to sit there and fight with him.
SPEAKER_01Not gonna end well, is it? I think you're right. I think you are right. The best matchup to make is Oshaki Foster. Oshaki Foster's decent due to the fact that he's a slick, slick boxer with a slick jab, yeah. Yeah. And Oshaki'll say discipline, but again, you you don't know what you're gonna get hit with. Like, people move out of the way from Never Day and they still get clipped.
SPEAKER_02He do got some long office. Like, what the fuck? I'm not a big fan.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think you just like you like the pure boxer, right?
SPEAKER_02Like you like the no, I just think it it's I don't understand how he got so far a fight.
SPEAKER_01Yo, that's nobody knows. That's the mystery. Nobody knows, and and it's worked and works, and he's got a chin. Uh again, they asked him like what his diet was, and he was just saying, uh I don't know, like hair or something. Yeah, bro. He I just like watching that guy. So so that that's really it on that. That I'm a fan of him, and I guess we'll see what's next.
Who Rules 130: Foster, Roach, Navarrete
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we're gonna see if nah, he's he's unified, and man, he's tough, man.
SPEAKER_01Tough tough unified champion, and he and his resume is good, dude. He just because he I when you take a cow no. No. Um pure boxer, he is gang. And again, I'm I am on record time and time again, big Oshaki guy, but I don't I don't I'd rather him fight. I'd rather Oshaki fight freaking uh what's his face? Roach honestly. And then and then just them two fight for undisputed. That that would be yeah, that would be cool. I don't know if that'll happen because everything I don't know if Roach are gonna move.
SPEAKER_02They're still fighting at 130.
SPEAKER_01He's probably gonna draw anyway. Motherfucker always draw, and he's a fucking artist. Um yeah, um, and another guy, a few other guys around that weight class, obviously lighter, but uh we'll probably be there one day, maybe at least at 126. Fight announcement for May 2nd at the Tokyo Dome, Naya Inouway versus Junto Natatani. Massive, massive fight.
SPEAKER_02Massive. I wish I had some money, bro.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Japan.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_01Imagine that. We'd get arrested.
SPEAKER_02Imagine we enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_01Totally get arrested, but it would be amazing. I'd take it. I'd do the little stint, I'd do a stint for my Japanese people.
SPEAKER_02Yo, they kick us out the dome.
SPEAKER_01Imagine that story, though. We go to this fight, the spar and boxing podcast. We get locked. Yo, we might have to go May 2nd. We might have to go to Japan. Um, massive fight. Uh, those those people that like don't really watch boxing and and aren't nerds with boxing don't really know who Inoue is, don't really know who Nakatani is, but this is one of those best fighting the best.
SPEAKER_02Uh if you like anime, you should be watching this fight right here.
SPEAKER_01And like this is and like this is the first fight where that is I think to me, this is the first fight where people are like, oh, Inoue could get knocked the fuck out here. Oh in a way could get knocked the fuck out.
SPEAKER_02No, people they would have thought they would have thought that before the last fight, though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, he looked like Natani looked it like shit.
SPEAKER_01But but Nakatani knows now too, like, I gotta bounce back from that, and he's bouncing back like from that verse Inway, dude. That's props to them, dude. And they're gonna make so much money. We're so naive over here, like they gotta come to the states. I say it all the time. This dude is making bread in Japan. Yeah, they're full of people in Japan, and he is they they are one and one A in Japan, so it's one and one A in Japan.
SPEAKER_02Plus, and that motherfucker. Yeah, that's and that's like it's probably gonna get like it's gonna break records, bro.
SPEAKER_01Uh we would I would that would be awesome to go to a imagine we go to Japan and go to that fight.
SPEAKER_02That would be you think the seats are cheaper there?
Inoue vs Nakatani At Tokyo Dome
SPEAKER_01Nah, not for this fight, but no, not for the maybe like the other bullshit, yeah, but not this one. This fight, you how much is a yo, if if we got any Japanese listeners out there, man, we we need a place to stay. I mean, we'll stay in bunk beds, whatever.
SPEAKER_02I do a share Airbnb.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, hell yeah. That this is gonna be massive. I'm excited to watch it too, though. This is one of those ones you will wake up at 7 a.m. for or 8 a.m. whatever. We'll do that. We should do like a kegs and eggs thing. Um speaking of kegs and eggs, St. Patrick's St. Patrick's Day month, so kegs and eggs. We'll uh we'll definitely I'm definitely waking up for this this fight and watch it. I did that once in Inoways fights versus uh Fulton when In a way fought Fulton.
SPEAKER_02Um day that was on.
SPEAKER_01It was in the summer a few when he knocked him.
SPEAKER_02Um knocked him out the ring when he hit the um when he had that little rat tail when he got dropped by um start with an N.
SPEAKER_01Um Lewis Neri, yeah. Yeah, so that fight too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that fight was on a weekday, though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, bro. I was at work.
SPEAKER_02I pulled over. That shit was crazy.
SPEAKER_01That's how good this dude is. You pull over to watch him, bro.
SPEAKER_02Pull over and watch it.
SPEAKER_01I remember I was in bed for that one, like here, and I was like, ah! Early in the morning, it was like a Wednesday and some shit. But it's crazy. This is must see TV, and uh, I'm I'm super excited for it. Boxing took a little bit of a it started off this year with the heaters, slowed down, and then it picks right back up next month. So it's in May. Uh, nice little spring fling with this fight.
SPEAKER_02And oh man, who you who you leaning towards?
SPEAKER_01I'm going with In away. I just think the In away is the real money. They gotta follow the money. But again, uh if anyone's doing a film study, it's it's Nakatani because Nakatani has the power to knock him out. I don't care how how he looked last fight, he's getting up for this fight. You know, he's he's getting up for this fight.
SPEAKER_02And he's so poor. Yeah, this is uh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I just think with the hype of Inoue being over there, kind of like what I think happened to Teo MSG, the hype of Inuwe in Japan, like that, and I know Nakatani's from there too, but yeah, Inuwe is like is God over there. So that that's gonna be something that he's gonna have to deal with. But we'll break it down more as it gets closer. I just wanted to mention the that it's yeah, that that's that that's one on the the calendar that we're putting a little star next to. Good for them. Best fighting the best is what we need. Um, yeah, have you ever been to I've never been to like one of the the Asian countries? No, no, shit.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_01I want to go.
SPEAKER_02Me too.
SPEAKER_01My friend was actually just in Japan.
SPEAKER_02My daughter wanna go too, so yeah, I gotta take her.
SPEAKER_01What makes her want to go there? I'm just curious. Like I forgot what she's at. I'm going to Hawaii. Is that and they have a they have a 7-Eleven owned by Japan. For real. That's like a thing.
SPEAKER_02Hawaii is a long flight, too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, I'm also going to Cali uh this month. I was supposed to go there to watch Ginny fight, but that fight got canceled. So now I'm just going to Cali. Long Beach, baby.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Gangster.
SPEAKER_01Gangsta?
SPEAKER_02Well, watch what kind of hat you wear. Gangsta, dog.
SPEAKER_01Keep it gangster. Nah, they'll see me like, damn, there goes that guy Puma. Damn, stay away.
SPEAKER_02Nah, sure. Sure.
SPEAKER_01Nah. I was gonna go. There's a Pro Box card though, still. That's what the fight was in. I was gonna go anyway. Uh, but wifey was like, if I'm going to Cali now, we're doing something. And I'm like, Yeah, you're right. She's what y'all gonna do? I don't know. We're gonna go to Hollywood. Fucking eat some food, drink, kiss the wall, the the what the stars on the uh yeah. Is that what are you supposed to kiss him? Oh yeah, she wants she wants to go to this like museum of death or some shit. So I'm like, oh right, yeah, I got something going on. But not me. I don't I don't care. I like to go to boxing fights, but go check out that museum. She's into that horror shit, bro. So go check that out. Uh but yeah, it just sucks. We were going like I like to go to boxing like every trip I I go on. I you know, bring wifey, whatever, or whoever, and uh, if it's out of state, I like to do something cool there. Like, well, we're going to a different state, we'll hit a boxing match. But now Cali's a little bit of a hike. I was going because I am loyal to my people that we interview, you know? Yeah. And I was gonna go, but she ducking, not Ginny, the other girl is ducking again. But that's boxing. Um, and speaking of drama in boxing, tonight's fight, which we're gonna watch right here at the Spar In, yeah, is Jai Apatia versus Brandon Glanton. And, you know, uh everyone has their opinions. People say Jai doesn't really fight anybody, but then other people like that. He's probably the boogeyman, nobody really wants to fight him. Brandon Glanton ain't scared of nobody. He'll he'll get in there and fight him. You know, he'll probably do all right. There was a uh weight clause. I saw Jai wait in twice and made weight twice, so that's good. But the big drama here and the big wrinkle, I guess you could say, is the drama with the Zufa belt and the IBF belt. And there's there's real beef. And I don't know how I feel about it.
SPEAKER_02Like, it's just I mean, as a boxing fan, this is you don't want to see shit like this. You don't want to see uh like this is like we have a fighter that made it a he's look make it a point that he wanna be undisputed, that he cares about the belts, that he wanna have every belt, he wants to beat the best, he don't even care who has a belt, he's not calling out other fighters just to fight. He wanna fight for the to get undisputed. He feels like that's the thing that matters.
SPEAKER_01Real quick, I don't mean to interrupt you, but uh Arthur McCante Jr. just uh I was at fights this weekend, he was there. The ref. Yeah, Puma, you have to be one of the most craziest fans of boxing I ever met. I love it. Keep up the good work and thank you for your services. Yo, shout out to you, Mr. McCanti, the the ref, Arthur McCante Jr., man. Yeah, took a heavyweight punch to the dome.
SPEAKER_02I know Puma was uh getting on your nerve that night, but I already know how it is.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, sir. Yo, I'm screenshotting that, man. I'm screenshotting that. That's from a referee, man. I'm I'm blushing, Arthur.
SPEAKER_02Uh but yeah, go ahead, Willie. What do you say about Ja? Nah, but Ja really wants to be undisputed. Like, we don't even get this a lot. Like, we don't get people that want to be champions and want to fight the best and only care about the belts and their history and legacy. And now it's like you the sanction body's getting away of that, like just because of a new a new title on the lines.
SPEAKER_01I have like mixed feelings about it. I agree with you. You're right. Like, whatever. But then, like, uh, one of the biggest arguments that we talk about on almost every show is ah man, too many belts, too many belts. And then what does Zufa do?
SPEAKER_02Make another belt.
Travel Plans, Life Updates, Fight Fandom
SPEAKER_01Well, we'll make another belt, but you could only have our belt, and then they they change that narrative, and they're like, Oh, yeah, you you could fight for the ring, you could fight for this, you could fight for that. Uh it's just weird. I mean, I I don't know what the deal is. The sanctioning bodies are just taking L's lately.
SPEAKER_02But I feel like it's some, I feel like some like they allow, I feel like they allow on it because it's like um I was watching the the the press conference, oh, or the face-off, right? And then one of one of the face-offs, he didn't have the uh belt. He didn't have the um yeah, the IBF, the IPF. He didn't have it, right? Because who's paying him? Yeah, he didn't have it, and then he had this Zufa belt, and the uh the girl was had the belt and he had the ring belt. And then I've just seen the the press conference, and then he had the the belt. Yeah, so so we I don't know what's going on. It's a funny heat.
SPEAKER_01I like when they talk to him though. He said he's like, listen, I want to fight the best, the best of the guys with the belt.
SPEAKER_02You want to be undisputed, he's like, which I like. That's what I'm saying. They want to strip him after this. This is crazy.
SPEAKER_01But then he'll fight again for it. I think he'll fight again for it.
SPEAKER_02But no, but that's fucked up. That's so messed up, bro. This boxing and shit is getting.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I don't know what so the the problem is that the sanctioning bodies and Zufa, right? Yeah, they're they're all having they're having like a war. They're all like having a war with Zufa because Zufa wants total control and they want to squeeze out the sanctioning bodies. And the sanctioning bodies are like, no, no, we get a piece of this. We got the belts. We're where we we we have, you know what I mean? Like, we've been here. You ain't the new kid on the block gonna come bully us. Like, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting, but it sucks for the fans. But as long as he keeps fighting, it'll happen.
SPEAKER_02I don't like how they just be butted in on other fights, but like they're not they're not fighting for if if you're if his belt he's paid the sanction fees, right? And if he's fighting for a different belt, why do they want to piece the pie if they belt not on the line? Like I don't understand that part either.
SPEAKER_01I think it's just the politics behind it when you when you unionize, kind of like when you unionize like that, and and you get involved with all the like the legal avenues and just politics, man. And it sucks.
Opetaia vs Glanton And IBF vs Zuffa
SPEAKER_02It sucks, but again, uh I feel like it's a bunch of greedy people somewhere.
SPEAKER_01It's also gonna what it what I think they were trying to do is deter people from going to Zufa. So people were signing up for Zoofa like crazy. So I think they did it. It's like a tactic as a deterrent. I bet you they don't strip them, it's just a tactic as a deterrent. Like I hope they don't. This is the biggest name on Zufa.
SPEAKER_02Ja really wants to be undisputed. Yeah, which I love. Like he keeps on bringing that up, bro. Every interview, I want to be undisputed. I want to be undisputed. It doesn't even matter who it is. Oh, David Better is at my wake.
SPEAKER_01Him saying that too is gonna force Zufa to work with the sanctioning bodies. So basically, while Zufa thought they were gonna come in and change the game like that, I don't think they're gonna be able to. You know what I mean? But who cares? As long as we keep getting Sunday night fights, they're putting together good cards. Let's keep watching.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, that's the good thing about boxing. God damn, this boxing is hot, man. Regardless if yo, fuck it. Keep on arguing and shit. Just give us something to talk about. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, just give us something. It's good to be us. Yeah, it's not good to be the fighters right now. Or the or the central.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they get paid. Regardless, the main fighters are getting paid, but um, yeah, definitely. Uh what else we got? Um, so that fight's gonna be on. We're actually gonna stay live. We're gonna watch it here. Uh maybe I'll rip some shots.
SPEAKER_02And uh, if that's cool, you're gonna you think we get banned if we go.
SPEAKER_01I don't we can't show the fight. That's the only thing.
SPEAKER_02I'm saying, like, it's on another TV though. What do you mean? Like behind us?
SPEAKER_01I could put it, I could try.
SPEAKER_02You think that'll be the same?
SPEAKER_01Uh probably. Yeah. But like I'm gonna stream it on this and we'll see. So you want me to try and put it on this TV behind us too?
SPEAKER_02And see if we get canceled of it. You want to do that? I don't think we're famous enough to I mean, I don't know. Can you um as long as they don't have no sound, they would how would they know? Do they recognize it? I don't know how that shit works.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they do they the sound, like yo, they yeah, they will, because they banned us for music, especially Paramount, that's a big company. Like, if we if we had music in the background, right? Yeah, no, definitely. I know that, but so I mean, I they kick us off, though.
SPEAKER_02That's not they're not gonna ban us, but they kick us off. Well, we can see it, see if we get kicked off or not. Yeah, I could try it. I could put it on this. The setup's good too. Yeah, and then we can watch it here or there. I'll watch it on this TV. That's that was my whole uh idea before. But yeah, if we just do it like that too, just react like that.
SPEAKER_01We'll have to sit right here and then watch it on this TV in front of us.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you can do that too.
SPEAKER_01And I can stream it on this TV behind us. Like I'll put the stream on this TV behind us and we'll watch it on this one.
SPEAKER_02All right, fuck it.
SPEAKER_01We'll try it. We'll try it and see what happens. This TV kind of sucks, but whatever. Um, that fight's on in a little bit. We're gonna either way, we're gonna watch it live. I'll cancel this recording. We'll come back and just we'll preview that fight live. Uh it would be cool though if we could watch it. Uh yeah, that's really it though. Um, what else? What else? What else? What else? Uh MVP women. Yeah, women's boxing, man. Oh, the hotties, the hotties.
SPEAKER_02They got the hotties.
SPEAKER_01They got a slew of hotties, man. Not to sound like a womanizer, but yo, I gotta give MVP props, man. We did it last episode too, and you know what it is with them? They really got, and and I'm not afraid to say it, there's a lot of other people out there, right? Dudes specifically, bros, a lot of brodies out there that that do not watch women's boxing, and they're like, oh no, it's boring, whatever. And I get it, boxing's not as popular as it used to be, but I wasn't one of them, but I wasn't really watching it either. And then the MVP kind of shoved it in our face. And I'm not mad at it, because I am kind I'm more of a woman's boxing fan now than I've ever been, and it has to be it has to be them. I think there's no other reason.
SPEAKER_02You've seen that everywhere though. Like we've seen a misfix fighting girl that knocked out. He had a three-time Olympian.
SPEAKER_01So so they really now women's boxing does have a buzz, and and I gotta thank Jake Paul for that. They they the women have to thank Jake Paul for that, and it is cool, and again, it was nothing against the woman, just it wasn't boxing, isn't that popular as it is, so but like I I gotta say, the women leave it all out on the line, man. They they go to war, dude.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, and now we have an ooh, uh they got ESPN coming in.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, MVP signed with ESPN, so it's gonna be shoved in our face more.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, ESPN coming in. Um, they fighting in New York, so that's big.
SPEAKER_01Uh, yeah, they're their opening fight or whatever's in New York, and we're going. So that's cool too. That's gonna be fun. Um, Willie's crush is there, Alicia Bumgardner. She's she's uh, you know. We're gonna check that out.
SPEAKER_02Damn, she's not even on the that's crazy. She's not even on uh uh the pound of pounds.
SPEAKER_01Who Alicia? Yeah, yeah, that's because Meyer beat her.
SPEAKER_02Um anyway, she's third, or second or third, or whatever.
SPEAKER_01That's insane. Nah. Um, what's she? I'm trying. I want to get she said she'd come on the show, Alicia, but everyone says that, and then yeah, we've harassed them and they go they they go missing from us anyway, but it's all good. Again, props to MVP though. They I thought Top Rank was gonna sign the with ESPN. I don't know if they're still gonna, but MVP got the deal with them. That's smart on MVP is going. Yeah, that's smart on ESPN's. It's all business, dude. You could tell Jake Paul's stock rising, he's putting these fights together, like you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02Uh, but yeah, he got a lot of champions on his roster like women's yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh Lorenzo's FaceTime and me, but we're live. Um crying. Yeah, I can't answer that, bro. Yo, Lorenzo, if if you're listening, we're on the show, you could pop in. Um yeah, that's really it though. Uh for that. I mean, I mean, yeah. Yeah, they got that, they got that one chick that fought Holly Holm.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, she did a pretty good last fight.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. They then the fight got cancelled. They're having the rematch. It's not the fight in the city, though, unfortunately. Uh I like her. That's what I mean. What MVP's doing. I'm a fan of that chick. Like, cool. And if you want to put really pretty girls in a ring and make them fight, and we're tuning in.
SPEAKER_02Get the baby face assassin on there.
SPEAKER_01You know what I like they do?
SPEAKER_02She's fire.
SPEAKER_01They they they got their personality, they they run their personality good. Like the you really see the the behind the scenes with them, and these chicks have a lot of personality, man. It's good to see.
SPEAKER_02See Dajor Green wanna fight.
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SPEAKER_01Yeah, Clarissa's in every Clarissa's yo, Clarissa's in everybody's head, though. I gotta say. Yeah. Everybody's head, so yeah, she's she she be doing her thing though. Um, let me just see what this d blowing up my phone. Um yeah, that's really it though. Uh for that. Um, what else? What else is the drama? There's more drama there. Um Golden Boy Golden Boy, oh yeah, Golden Boy and Virgil Ortiz Jr. Beef in divorce court, Judge Judy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I guess you would uh I see that they sided with Golden Boy, sheesh.
SPEAKER_01Who? The courts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so right now it's not over yet. Basically, uh, I had to do some research because I didn't even know what the hell they were what they were going on about. I didn't know what the drama was, but for those that don't know, that the judge uh well Ortiz I don't know Golden Boy uh won a temporary ruling recently over Ortiz Jr. Ortiz Jr. I think went after Golden Boy because he said that he's not uh with them anymore, but something in the contracts or whatever said it was the contract was supposed to end when the Dzone deal ended, but the Dzone deal didn't officially end. I don't I don't know the the exacts about it, but all I know is Virgil Ortiz Jr. is pissed because he wants to fight Ennis, and it appears that Golden Boy is stopping him from fighting Ennis or putting their putting their toe in the mix.
SPEAKER_02So that's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Um again, I I don't really know the court court stuff's hard to follow because you know it's smart people shit. And we need that fight, man. Oh, that fight is major, major, that's a major huge fight, and hopefully we get it. What the hell is that? Oh, my uh my algorithm.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sorry, it was like uh on a screen.
SPEAKER_01Oh, this screen? Yeah, oh I don't know. Um but yeah, so that's about that's about it with that. I mean, like I said, this is a pretty dull show. Oh, wait, but big announcement, shit.
SPEAKER_02You got a mash on here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I do. Uh what else we got on there?
SPEAKER_02Floyd Mayweather fighting?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, and then so yeah, we have a huge fight announcement again in a few months. Money May, Floyd Mayweather, uh, versus Pacquiao 2 at the sphere. I knew about it months ago. You did. I told Willie about it. They didn't believe me.
SPEAKER_00Like, who the hell you know, Nick? You don't know nobody, Puma, Puma don't know shit.
SPEAKER_01And I did, but I was sworn to secretly. Sound like that. No, but it's cool. It's kind of fire kind of sort of sometimes when you're mad or lose a bet.
SPEAKER_00What the fuck?
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SPEAKER_01Uh it looks like Floyd Mayweather versus Manny Pacquiao is gonna happen at the sphere. I got wind of that through one of my guys on the Do you want to see it though?
SPEAKER_02That's the question that a lot of people have been asking me.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna I don't like answering a question with a question, but when you ask me that, are you gonna watch it though?
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. So whether you want to see it or not, it don't matter. That's why I told people, I'm like, yo, everybody's gonna watch it though. So do you want to see it? Who cares? Because you're gonna watch it. All right, I got another question for you. Do you think Floyd won the first one?
SPEAKER_01Again, who cares?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think he won the first one. He outpointed him. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But who cares? Same thing, too late. A lot of people just said that too. Like, oh, I think Manny won that. I'm like, okay, bro, whatever you say.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, whatever. Who, but like, if you think Manny won it, who cares? It was too late. If it was three or four years earlier, then then we could debate it.
SPEAKER_02We know the story that he didn't want to take no damn. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So whatever, whatever it is, it's it's over. They're they're pushing 50. So okay, let him fight.
SPEAKER_02This is gonna be a nice money grab.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. And that it's cool that it's in the sphere and they're gonna make a lot of money. Money talks, man, because you know they're both going broke.
SPEAKER_02So I guess money talks. What do you think? You think uh Manny's going broke too?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. He just float you don't come back in and he fought for the belt, Barrios.
SPEAKER_02Who who do you think they do take a lot of money for that politics over there?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that too, and who knows what you think and the Philly people like people forget, man. Boxers is prize fighting. If you don't manage your money, man, you don't you fight two, three times a year on this scale. Yeah, you spend all that money.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that shit's bad, bro. It goes quick. You yo, y'all gotta be careful, y'all gotta really get like financial advice, especially when at the lower, like lower, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, lower, lower, like the the lower level of the real prize fighters.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they begin. Maybe some people be fighting with jobs, yeah. Wendy is a bus driver out here.
SPEAKER_01Oh uh, City by the Bay says, How you boys see the Jai fight tonight? Um, how do we see it? I got eighth round knockout. Yeah, Jai Apatia.
SPEAKER_02This guy is tough. I don't think he never got stopped.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, he's definitely tough. Um, I think he gets a stoppage though. If Jai lets his hands go, though, but anything happens, tough dude. Um, and it's a heavier weight class.
SPEAKER_02So, you know, good thing that a good thing is that Ja is really focused on just he's here for one reason and one reason only.
SPEAKER_01So that's so but yeah, well, we're gonna watch that live too on air. So if you want to stick around, stick around. If not, whatever, might be better.
SPEAKER_02Try it out, see if y'all can see it in the background a little bit, but yeah, we'll see. See how how long that lasts. Yeah, if it works, it works, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, definitely. But on YouTube, just don't.
SPEAKER_02I mean, if you can't, we can't um should I just stay on Instagram, maybe?
SPEAKER_01Maybe if I stay on Instagram, but I don't know if YouTube, YouTube, but don't do YouTube. Yeah, we'll stay on Instagram and do it. If I can even get it on TikTok, we can do it.
SPEAKER_02TikTok people be watching that shit on TikTok.
SPEAKER_01I could try to get on TikTok too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we could do TikTok for real, though. All right, we'll try that. Like you could have the shit on the bottom of the screen, and they be watching football games and that shit.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, we'll do that.
SPEAKER_02TikTok we watching football.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they let me just I gotta get it on this TV. Uh oh. He says I really enjoyed the TO interview you all did. Any more interviews coming up? Yes, uh, we have two uh newer heavyweights coming up down the pipe. One was supposed to come on this week and then next week. I'm not gonna say their names yet because you know sometimes they don't show up. As far as like guys as big as TO, we've been we've been putting feelers out there. We see people in person, they say they're coming on, but then they go ghost. But again, it we just trying. Um, so I know I I could probably get To back on too at some point. We we chat here and there. So we'll uh we'll try to make it happen. But yeah, we're we're gonna do more interviews. That's the goal. It's just it's just tough like scheduling. So we're working on it. Um and we're getting like better at interviewing. I'm getting calmer. So I used to get starstruck. Still do. Hey, you're like you're like one and oh. Whoa! Oh but uh yeah, so we're we're gonna try. We're gonna try. If not, like I said, I don't like to make promises because they they come and go as they come, but um but with the with the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao rematch, right? Yeah, and I know I've been flirting with this idea that to to throw like a fight party, like a podcast fight party. Yeah, this is the perfect fight party fight. Because it'll get it gets all walks of life coming. So you get the all the fans. So you just you get the boxing fans, the pure boxing fans, you get the regular people, you get the the shorties, they come. So you get it's like an event. So I'm really gonna put something together. Um, I gotta just see the money-wise, what's gonna happen, but I'm gonna do it. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna do it. But you gotta be there. I gotta make sure you're there too. So I gotta check that this. This guy's got med dad duties. You better bring the stroller. Yeah, so uh, and then uh uh I'm a hundred percent, uh not 100%, I'm sorry, I'm 80% gonna do it. So it's probably either gonna be in New York City or Long Island. Long Island's obviously easier for us. I know it's a commute for our city friends, but take the damn train. We take the train enough, so and it's worth it. It'll be a real party, it'll be a lot of uh booze.
SPEAKER_02Might have a pro pop out, never know.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna try and get some pros to come out too for real. Um never know, yeah.
SPEAKER_02The local Long Island pros we can get easy, but stepping up, stepping up in the game when you re-cool at pros and shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Uh, but again, that fight, listen, they're in their 50s, it's an event, it's at the sphere. We're gonna watch it. Everybody's gonna watch it. Yeah, um, another another kind of fight of guys in their 50s that I hope it's like in summertime. Oh, I think I forgot they had a date. I think it is like in the close to that anyway. But Dana White versus Eddie Hearn going at it, man. Yeah, I don't know. I I don't understand the beef. So they just uh the beef is the zoo for shit. Like Dana White is coming for for these fighters. He's signing guys that Eddie could sign that's basically taking money out of his pocket.
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SPEAKER_02But I think like uh Dana White, I watched the interview with Dana White, and he's like, I don't know what his problem is. I like him. I like Ada here, and I'm trying to get work with him, but he just Yeah, but now now I think it changed.
SPEAKER_01Did you see his recent interview? Yeah, they was like uh the the recent interview with Dana White, where they're like, Well, will you box him if it goes? He'll never box me.
SPEAKER_02He's a which one is this?
SPEAKER_01Recent, recent.
SPEAKER_02I just posted like recent recent, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like after the UFC fight.
SPEAKER_02Who was interviewing him? Oh, I will oh, I watched him and Cameron. Yeah, you know, I'll stay watching Cameron. He cameron interviewed him and he was like, Oh, I like him, man. I don't know what's the problem. So in the is there must be a newer one?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was after last night's UFC fights. So in in the interview, though, right? Where he's like, he said, he's like, We're both 50, we shouldn't be watching. I guess Calem Walsh said to to um Dana, yo, I'll be on the undercard, you gotta fight him, that'll be awesome. And he Dana White to his credit was like, Undercard, you're the professional. Uh, we're gonna be on before there's on TV undercard, because we suck. But then I was thinking, I'm like, yo, that's the perfect fight for the undercard of Mayweather Packy.
SPEAKER_02Yo, that'd be too, right? They would never do it. You know how never do it.
SPEAKER_01You know how many fans that brings in, how much money they make.
SPEAKER_02If he knew how to box, bro, oh man, that'd be do you know how much money that makes?
SPEAKER_01Think of it. You have all the UFC guys, every UFC fan is watching, no matter what. Yeah, every single one, all the MMA guys are watching no matter what. Everybody in England and probably Europe is watching that that knows anything about boxing to see Eddie, right? And then you got all the regular boxing people watching, and then you got all the extra people watching. That fight breaks every record, in my opinion. So money talks. I think I could see that. Eddie got a boxing background. I don't think so. I saw him hitting the mitts, though. Now you're seeing all these videos come up. He's a runner, though. I know he's a runner, like he runs like 5Ks all the time.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_01And from us when we try to talk to him, but uh yo, put that on the Mayweather Pack undercard. I'm saying it now. Eddie Hearn versus Dana White on that undercard, dude. The TVs will break. There'll be so many people tuning in, literally will break TVs. I should be a damn promoter, man. Or a manager, like that that that on the undercard broke. Imagine trying to get them to fight, bro. That's worldwide, dude. That that'll and you know what's funny about that fight? It'll it'll bring them closer together after. No matter who wins, they'll be boys. You know what I mean? So that's cool. And there's real tension there. So there's a storyline. But until then, man, uh damn, till till that gets announced, sign me up wherever it is. We're watching that for sure.
SPEAKER_02For sure. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01And uh, yeah, I think that's really it. We're gonna wrap it up for now. We're gonna come back live and uh we're gonna watch Jai Apatia versus Brandon Glanton. Um I wonder if this is it on already? Yeah, uh the that fight's not on, but the fight itself's on. And we're just gonna chill. We're gonna chill and chop it up live. This was just the episode for the recordings. Uh, please like, subscribe, DM me if you interact with us and you like our interviews, whatever. If you got a fighter you want us to interview, it don't matter what the record is or what level he's at. We just love to talk to everybody. Again, sorry for um the the small screen on the lives on YouTube when I delete it and then I re-upload the large screen. They they redid some some crap on the system I use, but whatever it is, what it is. But before we go, um, I do have to shout out Empire Nutrition opening up another location.
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SPEAKER_02Yeah, come over to the TikTok, man. We're about to have that live TikTok watching the fight. Won't have that shit on the screen.