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From Skid Row To The Ring And A Rapid Fight Breakdown (EASTER SUNDAY SHOW)

PUMA AND WILLIE

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Skipping a week sounds harmless until you come back and realize boxing never stops moving. We kick things off with a real-life reset: California’s laid-back vibe, the gut punch of seeing Skid Row up close, and a Tennessee detour that somehow ends with us getting humbled by “hot chicken” we had no business challenging. Then we do what we came to do and start catching up fast.

From there, we dig into Sebastian Fundora vs Keith Thurman for the WBC super welterweight belt, why Thurman looked like a guy fighting uphill from round one, and what inactivity does to timing and legs when you’re no longer the young version of yourself. We talk matchups at 154, who actually has the style to trouble Fundora, and why the division feels alive again when the right fights get made.

Heavyweights get their shine too. We lay out why Moses Itauma is starting to feel like must-see TV, plus the kind of opponents we want next if promoters are serious about building a star. We also preview Tyson Fury vs Arslanbek Makhmudov, debate the danger of heavyweight power, and break down Regis Prograis vs Conor Benn at 150, including why the weight-class confusion matters for fans trying to track careers.

We also touch the week’s biggest headlines, including the Tank conversation and what repeated controversy does to a fighter’s public trust, then end with future-fight chatter like Teofimo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia at 147. If you’re into honest fight talk, smart matchup debates, and the occasional chaos around the edges, hit play, subscribe, share this with a boxing friend, and leave us a review with your picks for the next big upset.

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SPEAKER_00

What up, Willie? What up? What up? Where have we been, bro? We're late.

SPEAKER_01

What up, Puma?

SPEAKER_00

We're late, man. What's going on, man? Mr.

SPEAKER_01

Week. You was in Cali doing nothing. Yo, what do you mean doing nothing? I was supposed to go to fights.

SPEAKER_00

I was supposed to go to fights, but that didn't happen. Yeah, but how was Cali?

SPEAKER_01

Let me know how the vibe out there.

SPEAKER_00

So, yo, I'm not gonna lie. I was in Cali this past week. That's why we didn't record. Willie was in cheer dad mode.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Tennessee. Give me an S. Give me a P.

SPEAKER_00

Tired of it.

SPEAKER_01

Spar in. It's almost alone.

SPEAKER_00

No, we gotta have that. Yo, we gotta have the team over here do a little spar and shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, imagine that. Miss Patty don't play them.

SPEAKER_00

Not with my damn neighbors. Uh yeah. So Cali, yo, every stereotype about Cali is true. And like in a good way. Like it's not bad. Like it's a very liberal state, which is fine. That's gravy. It's very um laid back. Everyone's chill. Bro, Skid Row. We drove my my boy drove me through Skid Row. Say say a prayer on Easter for Skid Row, bro. Yeah, that shit is mind-boggling. Like, you think we have a homeless people problem? Like, that shit is crazy, dude. It's just like 40 blocks of homeless people. I've never seen anything like it. And it, you know, you see the news, you're like, oh, they're fabricating.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, bro. Uh there's no answer for that. It was crazy. Everyone in the car was like, is this for real?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like, oh my goodness. I suggest everyone go drive through Skid Row.

SPEAKER_01

Why you should dust that? Just to see.

SPEAKER_00

Just to see, man. There was like don't get like this. And like they're like, you know, they're people, they're humans, but it's like, yo, what? There is no hope for this little area, man. It was insane. Um, but I did not see the fights. Our girl Ginny Fuch, uh, she the the the girl ducked there, so I didn't get to go to the fights, but we had a good time, and the weather there is crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_01

How was it? It was nice.

SPEAKER_00

80, 80 degrees, no sweat. I was in jeans, so that was cool.

SPEAKER_01

Um I never experienced that, bro.

SPEAKER_00

It's like because I'm used to Florida, you know, like 80 degrees hot and sweaty. The balls are sticking to the leg. I'm waddling, no ball stick, zero ball stick in Cali.

SPEAKER_01

Tennessee was weird, the weather and shit, but Tennessee was clean though. Nashville is clean, yeah. Bro, it's like barely no garbage cans, and then it's just clean.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know what who this is. Oop WTC uh Maddie Johnson. Yeah, whatever you say. I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_01

That shit Tennessee is kind of uh it's clean, man. Um yo Cali, I don't want to show this. Oh, I didn't post the video yet. I could it had the hottest chicken.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Tennessee hottest chicken?

California Stereotypes And Skid Row

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't know if it was the hottest, but it was the hottest from the chicken spot.

SPEAKER_00

You were burnt.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, never again. I thought I could eat hot shit. I'm uh no, bro. I almost threw up, I was in tears. I gotta post a video.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, post that.

SPEAKER_01

That shit's gonna be funny.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so yeah, we took a week off. Boxing was still moving though. Boxing is heating up as we go. We got a little quick segment. We just got off of Alex Vargas interview. He's fighting May Alex. Uh not May. What is it? April, April 17th. Yeah. Um, he's fighting April 17th at MSG. Check that interview out. Alex Vargas, El Toro, Long Island, New York's. Legend. Legend in the in the making. Not like like living legend. Uh, check out that interview. We just got off that. So we're gonna have a quick little segment show going on because we do got to catch up on some boxing, bro. We we we missed a lot. Shit keeps moving. We're gonna talk about Fondora versus Thurman, a little review of that. Moses Itama, a little breakout talk, you know. A little he's he's doing his thing, man. Yeah, and speaking of heavyweights, we got a preview, a little preview with Fury Makmidov, the the mountain, uh, and ProGay, Progray, not ProGay, Progray versus Ben on the undercard.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, gosh.

SPEAKER_00

So quick little show. Uh, speaking on that, you watch those fights, right, Willie? Uh kind of sort of. Yes. I mean, it was hard to watch. I uh it was lackluster, right? Yeah, well, like let's just talk about Fondora Thurman first, man. For the WBC Super Welterweight Championship. Uh we we didn't preview the fight, um, but I gotta be real, man. I I I saw a clip of Thurman hitting the pads in the in the beginning the week prior. Yeah. And he just looked slow as hell.

SPEAKER_01

It was four, it was foreshadowing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, uh yeah, he looked slow as hell. He looked old, man, and he's what, 37? It's it's really hard when you take like when you're not working out in between your fights at that age, like Terrence Crawford, right? Always at the gym, always working out. You know, Thurman's not, he's being a family man and not taking a little break from boxing here and there.

SPEAKER_01

He had a big layoff too to come.

SPEAKER_00

Not from it was like a year, fought last year to fight that guy, yeah. It's true.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I don't know what he was thinking, man. Uh shit. I mean, but we had faith, like you couldn't count him out. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00

You couldn't count it was people was really rooting for him. Yo, the moment they got in the ring, bro. I knew Fondora was bringing heat. You know what you're gonna get. He's no secret. Come forward, super tall. How he makes weight is uh the the biggest mystery cheat, but besides at this point, besides belts and whose belts what, how fandora makes weight is that really is that technically weight bullion? Nah, bro, he makes it like he he makes weight. Um he's just Thurman was so non-intimidating, dude. Like his hair is not like I'm not saying that matters, like like bro, he his hair is just to shave it, bro. What are you doing? Like, bald is intimidating, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's he's looking like he's selling phone cases at a kiosk in the mall, and like it's just so non-intimidating. And and once Fondora, uh a nerd, he he says it, I'm a nerd. Once he got in the ring, he looked across the ring and he he saw that that mole kiosk man and said, I'm a dog, this dude, and that's exactly what he did from from point A to point B. Yeah, and then um Thurman's talking about the stoppage. Oh, early stoppage, early stoppage, early stoppage. No, no, dude, that's how you die. Fights like that is how you die when you won't go down, good, good on you not going down, but when your face is just getting pounded out, like my first experience with a MILF, it is it's over, dude. Like good stoppage on the ref, Thurman. Just I don't want to see you anymore, man. Just retire, bro.

SPEAKER_01

I think he was like trying to get like a little um like a uh uh lucky punch or something. Uh yeah, that's what he said. Um, I mean he could have, but bro, you can't be backing up like that all day without throwing no punches, just taking punches to the face, you know what I'm saying? Um it seemed like he figured out something, but it was too late.

Nashville Cleanliness And Hot Chicken Pain

SPEAKER_00

He landed some shots. Fondora does get hit, but like the the shots from the thudding, the repetition of thuds on on Thurman's face with his backpedal, his footwork wasn't there, he was slower, he's 37, and he's not Terence Crawford.

SPEAKER_01

What uh what ounces was the gloves? Because I heard it was like some type of issue with that.

SPEAKER_00

They was trying to I think it was just semantics before the fucking fight, you know, trying to do what they can to get the gloves, but it's sanctioned. It was in Vegas. Vegas knows what they're doing, they're a good sanctioning body, like like they're uh um they're a good uh athletic commission, they they know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_01

You think so? What you think uh Thurman, what's going on what's for him? Like, what's next for him? Is this he'll be on he'll be uh under car he's still talking, he's still yapping, but even his shit talk is corny.

SPEAKER_00

Like you can't it's like not even like it don't even oh I gotta stand on this chair. I train for people, like dude. He's a hall of famer though, like yo, is he he should be, yeah. He in his prime, he was good, but yo, the inaction this this is the problem. This is the problem with PBC's greats, the inactivity, bro. You gotta stay active, man, because nobody thurman was top five, right? At one point, and then nobody knew who he was. No, no, no, regular person, non-boxing nerd, knows who Thurman is.

SPEAKER_01

What Fandela say? He said once upon a time. He's and he wasn't wrong, bro.

Alex Vargas Plug And Fight Agenda

SPEAKER_00

And and you know what? Props to Fondora, because you know making weight is gotta be hard, bro. And he came in at 153. He weighed in at 153. My man is looking like cheating. I don't give a fuck. He's cheating. Young Jeff A tapping in from Atlanta. Hello, how you doing, sir? Go Boy Promo, our guy, Brooklyn. What up, man? Um, yeah, so uh again, I don't want to see I don't want to see Thurman. I do not want to see Thurman. He fights once a year anyway, and props for trying to fight Fondora like that, but it he's had no head movement, it's getting pieced up. It's just it wasn't good.

SPEAKER_01

It was bad, it was bad, and then his face looked so beat up. I mean, he but he could still talk shit afterwards. So maybe they should have shut up. The Red should have left let it go.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe he would have shut up like what and and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but there's no way to like say it not disrespectfully, so make that make sense. Um like when you know when you're in the mall and the dudes like that want to give you hand cream or hand massages or like sell the phones and you say no, I'm not I'm good, man, I'm good, and then they start talking shit. Yeah, that was like what it felt like with Thurman, and he looked apart. Like, come on, bro. Like, just go away, dude. Go be a family man. You did what you had to do. Maybe you need some money, okay. But just stop, dude. The ref saved your life. The ref saved your life. It's over for him, bro. It's over for him, it's over for him. There's no like what? Maybe maybe we'll see how Errol Spence looks.

SPEAKER_01

So what oh and Fandora, I I like how he's talking, man. He's when he wanna fight whoever at that weight class. Oh man, should he fight the winner of uh whatchamacallit?

Fundora Stops Thurman And Fallout

SPEAKER_00

Um oh big fight, um, boots and uh so so I was gonna say, like, what's what's next for Fandora? Who really has a shot at that style? Who has a who has a real shot at beating him?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, people somebody landed lucky punches. People got so but um the best chances probably boots or um I keep why my name's going blank. I don't think boots.

SPEAKER_00

I think I think the best chance the the best ver the best person to beat Fondora, and he's out of a fight right now since there was an announcement in the the top three, Virgil Ortiz Jr. Man. That that's the guy to beat Fondora.

SPEAKER_01

I mean his arms aren't long enough. I'm saying, like, that's not the length of the arm. Style wise, though, bro. Style wise, yeah, but style wise, because Fondora gets hit.

SPEAKER_00

He does get hit, and he's been knocked down. Yeah, I know. He's been knocked down, he's he's lost, he's been knocked down, and the only one style-wise, really to me, Virgil Ortiz Jr. Man, and that is the fight to make, right?

SPEAKER_01

That's the fight probably to make right now.

SPEAKER_00

But now that Xander's eye is and yeah, Xander, yeah, that's why I was forgetting his damn name. Xander and Boots just got announced.

SPEAKER_01

Xander and Boots is crazy. So that's a great that's gonna be a great fight.

SPEAKER_00

To me, man, if Virgil Ortiz Jr. is on the outside looking in right now.

SPEAKER_01

So I don't like that for Xander, boy. They was protecting him for a minute.

SPEAKER_00

Who first? Oh they was protecting him like so you you don't like him versus Xander? You don't like Xander versus Boots? Yeah, he's gonna I think he's I think that fight is gonna be good? I don't want to get too far into it right now. I don't want to get too far into it because we do have to preview that fight.

SPEAKER_01

Um are we are we previewing that now or later?

SPEAKER_00

No, later, because that's not till that's not till uh June 20 June 27th at Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_01

But it'd be it'd be hard.

SPEAKER_00

Like when we talk about one fight, it'd be hard because it's like but like who who do you think out of those three, out of those three, who do you think has the best shot versus Fondor? Boots. You think boots wise?

SPEAKER_01

He's uh um skill-wise and length, you know, with the arms and stuff, he can jab to the body thing with boots is we've seen people hit him, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's been hit, but he's smart, but he's gonna have Fandora's gonna have to get hit.

SPEAKER_00

I think honestly, to me, Virgil Ortiz Jr., just because if you look at Fandora versus Mendoza when he got knocked down, like that that pop shot power that Virgil Ortiz Jr. has to be.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if he got the length though, like to to get inside or I mean hopefully we see Virgil Ortiz Jr.

SPEAKER_00

doesn't have a fight right now. That's the fight to make for if I'm is he ever gonna get a fight now? Because that vote Oscar De La Hoya shit. I mean, this is it. Like, you okay, throw him, throw Virgil Ortiz Jr. to Fondora. Fondora will do it, you know he will. And then if if if Ortiz Jr. wins, winner of Ennis versus Z, that's three belts.

SPEAKER_01

There's another belt. Wait, how many belt? How many belts Fandora got?

SPEAKER_00

Fandora got one, WBC.

SPEAKER_01

And who got Zaida got two belts?

SPEAKER_00

Two belts.

SPEAKER_01

So then he got two belts. Damn, he fought over there in Puerto Rico. Got two belts.

SPEAKER_00

I think he has two, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you I think you this he does have two, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Damn, so then you know what?

SPEAKER_01

And then who got the other one?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, I think it's vacant. I could be wrong because of um 154. Yeah, I think it I think it's vacant. I could be wrong though. Um, yeah, no, I'm I'm not forgetting some. If you're listening, help me out. Is that belt vacant? I don't know, but whatever. That's a three three belts, and then there's one that you get. That's good for whoever. That's a good fucking lineup if it happens.

SPEAKER_01

Man, 154 is nice. 145. I'm happy though. 147 is nice, 154 is nice. Damn, 140 is nice, 135 is still is boxing's nice, bro.

SPEAKER_00

What you're saying is boxing is nice right now, bro. Watch boxing, man, and watch our podcast at the Spar Inboxing Podcast, powered by Empire Neutral.

SPEAKER_01

Boxing in the hole is good.

Who Can Beat Fundora Next

SPEAKER_00

God damn. Ah, yeah. So so that's that's the all I got really about that. You know, that was like two weeks ago. We're a little late because we took a little break. Um going forward though, heavyweight, heavyweight fight that happened to uh big name coming up. Moses Itama vs. Jermaine Franklin. Um, if if you haven't yet, that was a smooth smooth name. If you haven't yet, it's time to start taking Moses uh serious, and I'm not talking in a religious sense, it is Easter. Um, but it's time to start taking Moses serious in that the heavyweight division, man.

SPEAKER_01

He listened um who you want to see him against, man, because that knockout, that knockout was beautiful, it was smooth, it was like yeah, charisma with it.

SPEAKER_00

Like he just like he doesn't remind me of Mike Tyson in his style, but he reminds me in of Mike Tyson and what he's doing. He's beating these guys the way he's supposed to beat them, and that is blockbuster TV. And and that's why Mike Tyson was so vicious and and and must see TV, and that's why we everybody tuned in to see Mike Tyson because he beat guys that he's supposed to beat the way he's supposed to beat him. It was never a distance fight, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, you know what else I like about him? He let everybody else talk about him. He don't really talk that much. He let everybody else do the talking for the club. That's a good point. It's a good point. Yeah, he don't bite. He's kind of humble.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, he's just he was talking to Tyson. He said he wants to fight eight times this year.

SPEAKER_01

Eight times? I don't think that's gonna happen, but I mean, if he stops everybody, shit.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but back to your question, who do I think who do I want to see him fight? Listen, there's two names, man. Abacal. Ajit Cabayel. Cabayel, whatever you say his name, and Cabayel. And Richard Torres Jr. I want to see that. Those are two, and for the Torres Jr. versus him fight, that's a real that's pay I'd pay for that. That's pay-per-view. I'd pay pay per view for that. Not Wilder versus fucking Trezora. I'd pay for for for fucking Itama vs. fucking, and it's not even for a belt, just like Trezora Wilder was, and it was fucking pay-per-view, 50 bucks and your subscription.

SPEAKER_01

Torres be up for it too.

SPEAKER_00

I I know he's looking. He got a big fight coming up too, but we'll we'll see. But I think he's gonna he's gonna win that fight just on grit and stamina alone. But but listen, Itama vs V Torres, man, that is one of those fights not for a belt, two non-champions, but but but the people will pay. And if it's promoted right, you show their bolt their highlights in Olympian, man.

SPEAKER_01

That'd be fucking funny. That's that's a that's my whoever wins that is going.

Moses Itauma Breakout And Dream Matchups

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh. And and not only that, it's it's a crazy fight for us as fans. Like a 12 round, make it a 12 rounder. I know it's not a title fight. Make it a 12-rounder, though. Fuck it. That's a crazy good fight. And Cabayel, too, because Caball's kind of Cabayel, yeah. Yeah, he he's kind of slick. I just think, I think style-wise, with how how much pressure Torres Jr. puts on you, and he's not backing down, he could take a punch, he don't care how hard you could hit. We're we're gonna have to see really if Moses is fucking um, if his defense is really like that, you know, like he's not as an fought a guy like that who just keeps coming like that as a fucking heavyweight. That oh man, I would pay. Yo, if you're a promoter, both of your promoters, if if you're anybody, anybody in boxing that's way above us, which is probably everybody, but if you're if you're listening to this, man, that is a fight that we will pay for. Yeah, we will pay, we will pay$50 pay-per-view on a DZON subscription for Itama vs. Richard Torres Jr. Fights like that, not Deontay Wilder versus Derek Tesora.

SPEAKER_01

Uh it was cool for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, it was not cool at all, man. That fight was garbage. But I mean, we'll talk about it later, but um that's it really. That's it for that. The the the reviews again. There's gonna be a quick show. We are coming off same night, Alex Vargas interview, but we had to run down some boxing because we've been out of the loop, we've been out of the mix. Um, yeah, that's it. Did you watch Wilder Chesora? Fuck it. We'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, and I I wasn't paying for it.

SPEAKER_00

Bro, that was hot garbage. Hot garbage. Garbage.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I I posted it, but I'm so happy that Anthony Joshua versus Deontay Wilder never happened as an American, man. As an American, even in their prime, because what I know about Anthony Joshua is he would have fucking steamrolled him like Nganu. I want to see Wilder versus Ganu.

SPEAKER_01

I don't like I don't like him. So I would have been rude for Wilder and hope Wilder knock his ass out.

SPEAKER_00

I want to see, I want to see.

SPEAKER_01

I want to see it now. He gotta he gotta come back anyway. So, you know what I'm saying? He's there, he was there watching. He was rooting for um Derek. So they got a little beef there, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to see it?

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No.

SPEAKER_01

Wilder was looking sloppy as shit, bro. He's hard. I feel like no, I just feel like they liked each other too much.

SPEAKER_00

Like they was fighting, but they were Can we talk about the lead up to the fight though? They're Deontay Wilder and all his interviews.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't see I seen like a before, like way before. Did you see what he said about the the fury?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, the with the what he how his how his last kid was conceived. No, what do you say? You didn't see that?

SPEAKER_01

No, bro. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00

Deontay Wilder posted was in an interview with um that guy from England, Pierce, Pierce Morgan. Piers Morgan?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, I can't.

SPEAKER_00

No, but but listen, bro, listen. So he's in an interview with Piers Morgan, right? And he's talking about his his last kid, how when he has S E X, he he sets it up and he puts a towel down and he doesn't, and he said it, he said it verbatim. He doesn't uh you know ejaculate into the vagina. I'm trying to keep this as politically correct as I can, but it's really hard because I can't say how he said it. But and um he he then folds up the towel real nice and and wipes it off, but she apparently grabbed the towel and ran into the bathroom, and that's how she got pregnant. So she forced that kid on him. You gotta watch that, bro. I sent it to you, I think.

SPEAKER_01

So somebody's lying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I wonder who.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, somebody's lying, bro.

SPEAKER_00

He has he is the he is the biggest you know pre-cum can do it too, bro.

Wilder Vs Chisora And Wilder Drama

SPEAKER_01

You know that? Like, you can't just like sit there and just say you just oh you Willie knows Willie knows in the towel, and then well, it got set up like Drake. Should have poured some hostos on it. Put hostos on you.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe it would have came out Latino.

SPEAKER_01

But yo teach her a lesson, pour some hostos on that.

SPEAKER_00

He literally said that and like was dead ass. And I'm just looking, yo, he needs to get sponsored by scientists for why CTE is real, why CTE is dangerous.

SPEAKER_01

He has so much issues going on with that girl and shit.

Fury Vs Makhmudov Quick Preview

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, like apparently she was hooking up with other fighters. I don't know, this hearsay, but yeah, um, dude, just come on, man. Shut up, just just go, go away. I don't I don't want to see Deontay Wilder. Apparently, after the fight, Anthony Joshua was there. That this was cool of him. He's like, Oh, let's do it, let's do it. So, again, Anthony Joshua as an American, and we need a really, really good American heavyweight. I do not want to see Deontay Wilder get his ass kicked by Anthony Joshua. I really don't. So please don't make that fight happen. Deontay Wilder, take your money, retire with your 30 kids, and ride off into the sunset. Your 30 kids conceived by napkins. By a rag. Uh crazy statement. It broke the internet, so that helped him, but not in a good way, in my opinion. But we're trying to fly through this show again, the spar unboxing podcast, powered by Empire Nutrition. Get all your supplements, all your eats, all your protein. Summer's coming. You're all fat. Get some abs. Um, but while we're on the topic of heavyweights, we have to preview this one. Uh Tyson Fury versus Magnumov, whatever his name is. Murgo, whatever the fuck his name. I don't even know what the fucking uh Arslinbach Makmudov. Um, this fight is next week, I think, Willie. So damn. Yeah, we got we got to preview this fight. Uh Tyson Tyson Fury should box his face off, should run circles around him. He is the the mountain. Tyson Fury can get knocked down. And and uh McMahon has enough power to do it. Listen, again, we we saw Nganu do it. Uh I'd I'd like to think Macmadov is better than Nganu, but Tyson Fury looks like he's in shape. He's working out hard.

SPEAKER_01

He looks really serious. And this is your guy.

SPEAKER_00

So you know, I hope I'm rooting for him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I hope your guy come ready and just you know, I gotta say, don't play, don't play around with this one.

SPEAKER_00

Tyson Fury, when he's in camp and focused, man, he's funny. When he's not, he's corny. Like, it's like, what are you doing with your stupid posts? Yeah, but when he's in camp and funny, did you see what he posted about like Usyk and Joshua working out together?

SPEAKER_01

No, I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_00

He's like, These two sausages, these fruit sausages working out with masks, and he was running. He's like, What the biggest party is in the game. Look at these sausage himself. It was funny, bro. He's funny. He's funny when he's in camp. Like him in camp and mentally focused. There's only one little wrinkle. Him and his dad are not on good terms. His dad said he's fighting for money because he has seven kids.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I mean, they all fight for money.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they it is, it is. They they do all fight for money, but his dad said something along the lines like Tyson is only fighting for money because he has 20 kids or something like that. Something crazy like that.

SPEAKER_01

Somebody gotta pay the child support.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I mean, listen, as much as I respect fighters fighting for legacy, when when you got as many kids as Antonio Cromarty and Nick Cannon, you gotta fight for money, bro. You need the money, man.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, uh, I think after you get I heard like after you get to a certain amount, you don't have to pay child support.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know in England, I think in England they're taxing everything you pay.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, maybe and they're together, so they don't pay child support.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, they oh no, shut your ass up, man. You gotta kid out of the way, man. Willie, get really scamming over here.

SPEAKER_01

I'm trying to add up, gotta get it up there. God damn, get it up to like 18. Nick Cannon got like 10, I think, or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Remember Cromartie, the cornerback of the Jets and every other team? He got like 17.

SPEAKER_01

I swear, bro.

SPEAKER_00

That's what he that's and Tyson Fury, I think, has seven or six.

SPEAKER_01

That's what you wanted to be in here earth to do, man. Spread them around.

SPEAKER_00

Especially with them jeans. Willie says that now, but when that second kid comes and the show is canceled.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, like and subscribe to the channel. Hey, I need nah yo.

SPEAKER_00

Willie is a good dad, man. Again, he travels all the world with his kid now.

SPEAKER_01

This shit is crazy. Oh, damn, damn. All right, so yeah, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Fury should win this. Um he should, he should. Again, I I I'm if I'm looking at the odds though, and I'm gonna wait till it gets closer. It's bad odds for yeah, Fury's like way, way, way but but I'm gonna bet Fury knocked down and win. Just just because like he could get clipped. Why not? And again, this is like the first time that I could remember him and his dad had this much of a falling out, like his dad's speaking out against him. Um, so it's weird, but Fury does look like he's in shape, so he's probably gonna be probably some haters, man. Yeah, but not his pops, bro.

SPEAKER_01

That's like yeah, well, pops be yo, pops be hating too, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, I know, but like not like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Gypsy King's pops. That's crazy. Why your pops be hating on you like that? Just spreading and getting no man.

Prograis Vs Benn And Catchweight Confusion

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I got a neighbor, he needs a pops. But uh on the undercard, we have Regis Progray versus Connor Ben at a catch weight, 150 pounds. This is an interesting fight, it is man. It's but it's I want it to be.

SPEAKER_01

It's not it's not gonna be good.

SPEAKER_00

I want it to be interesting so bad, but it is not gonna be interesting. I I'll tell you why.

SPEAKER_01

Like Regis as a person in a fight.

SPEAKER_00

Also, I like him as a I'm a fan of him. Yes, he's a real New Orleans boy.

SPEAKER_01

He's a good we we love him, and then we root for him and we get disappointed every time.

SPEAKER_00

Connor Ben at a catch weight, bro, is all wrong for him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he has way too much movement, way too much good. Athleticism, yeah, athleticism. He's gonna be in and out like a fast food restaurant.

SPEAKER_00

And Connor Ben showed he could take a punch from the heavier U Bank, right? You think Regis' progress at 150 is really gonna spark Connor Ben like that? And he has to. And Regis is a slow starter, and this again, I'm a Regis fan.

SPEAKER_01

And he got no feet, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and Connor is just gonna come also, Regis is a slow starter, bro. Like very slow starter. He's gonna circle the shit out of his ass. They're both coming off fights, they're both gonna be in great shape. Uh, I hope Progray knocks his ass out. I I'm not a Connor Ben fan.

SPEAKER_01

This is like Regis' last chance of a real you know what con Connor Ben, like it to me. I want somebody to knock him out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he he he wants to be I don't know how to say this, but he wants to be American so bad. Like, it's like, what are you doing, dude?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the blonde hair.

SPEAKER_00

Hey baby make it booty go. Yo, that was a hit, still a hit. Still a hit. What's he doing? What's Cisco doing now?

SPEAKER_01

Man, this is a boxing podcast, man.

SPEAKER_00

I love Cisco, bro. Yo, anyway, baby make it booty go.

SPEAKER_01

Um damn. Yeah, no, but kind of been his power is gonna be a little bit too much for him, bro. And it's sad to say that, but hey, but get your money, Regis. I want you to thanks for playing with a nice shirt again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, thanks for playing, man. They're still around. With the Regis Pro Gray shirt, man. Shout out to Shane putting that together. Remember him? Our friend of the show.

SPEAKER_01

He is my guy.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but listen, uh, as much as I want Regis to win, man. Ben is at 150. Ben is all wrong for him, bro. It it's just bad, bad juju. Again, I also Regis already said he has one foot out the door. He has one foot out the door. So like this is not the fight to have you. Yeah. I mean, which is good, but ugh, I don't know. I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna root for for Regis. I'm gonna be going wild for Regis. I just don't don't see him pulling it off. But it's a meaninglessly meaningless fight, too. That's another thing, real quick. Connor Ben is is fucking talking to talking shit to everybody from 140 to 147. Everybody, right? And then he's fighting at a catch weight at 150. Like, what? Like, what what what are you doing? After fighting at one like what's your weight class? Connor Ben, what is your weight class? What weight class are you in? So, like, is he in a rinking?

SPEAKER_01

Like, is he ranked in I don't even know any he's he's remember?

SPEAKER_00

He's talking shit to Roley. He wants he wants Haney, he wants Shakur, he wants Hitchens. What is he? What what weight are you? What weight do you want them at? Because now you're at a catch weight at 150, you fought at 160, and then there was some weight drama with like what weight are you, dude? He's confusing us, yeah, and his hair is confusing me too. But anyway, that's it.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, that's crazy that he really do be going through like many hairstyles, like he be having long hair, then he'd be having like the mullet.

SPEAKER_00

I can't hate on him for that, though. Bald head, like I'm bald, and that's the only style I got, so good for him, man. Yeah, he'd be switching. Keep it going with the hair.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, whatever.

SPEAKER_00

That blonde hair was corny though.

SPEAKER_01

That was crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Um, whatever.

SPEAKER_01

And if we see Roley should fight for real.

SPEAKER_00

Rolly's speaking of Roley, dude, he just got in a gym, so he got a fight coming. It looked like it looked like Haney kind of ducked Roley a little bit, bro.

SPEAKER_01

From from who though? Who's getting this from?

SPEAKER_00

Haney said the money wasn't right.

SPEAKER_01

You want the belt or you want the money? Haney said the money wasn't right. Haney said the money wasn't right. I like Roley. That's why I like about Haney. He will he wants all the belts.

SPEAKER_00

But does it? He said the money ain't right. Roley got a belt.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know why is the money not right. What what is it going on? He said he sent them like two different offers. Roley, but can you really trust Roley?

SPEAKER_00

Speaking of those weight classes, though.

SPEAKER_01

Can you trust Roley? Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Roley fights every Roley fought.

SPEAKER_01

No, but can you trust Role with the what with his like his words?

SPEAKER_00

We gotta get Roley on the show, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would love to have Roley with a bunch of times.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but speaking of those, that's overdue. Speaking of those weight classes, of course, it wouldn't be a boxing podcast without some drama and some news, some news drama. Willie's favorite fighter.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_00

Why you gotta bring up we got we had good news, we had good news, we had we did. Remember, she's she's dropping the charges, she's dropping the charges.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_00

Tank, she was dropping the charges. I see the video, and then the video dropped, and it was like, Come on, man, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

What yeah, but it's he didn't beat her though.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, you can't stick up for that though.

SPEAKER_01

He didn't beat her.

SPEAKER_00

He but like it wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't what we thought it was, it wasn't what she said, it wasn't what it wasn't good, it wasn't good either at all. Like, what are you good either tank? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

Dragging that about get out, yo, and she already dressed like a skank, man. What did he get? Yo, go get you a nice girl. Why you gotta deal with these girls?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but don't but don't blame her, Willie. You can't blame the girl.

SPEAKER_01

No, you can't fights.

SPEAKER_00

How many fights have we been? How many fights have we been in with our significant others, right? Millions.

SPEAKER_01

I have no shut up.

SPEAKER_00

We've been in fights with or with females in our life. Millions, right? I've seen you you and your sister for fighting, man. No, come on, man.

SPEAKER_01

My sister was fighting.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so fine, fine. Maybe you've never been in a fight with us, and that's good on you. Why is Tank getting in all these fights with girls? Bro, this is that's yeah, that's uh now he's on camera again, pulling a chick's hair downstairs. Like, come on, dude. Yeah, this is come on, dude.

SPEAKER_01

But hey, I I don't think it's that bad. Hey, this is looking crazy.

SPEAKER_00

No, yo, yo, we are canceled. The show is over.

SPEAKER_01

It's hope, man. It's hope. Because it's not what she said, it's not where the internet thought it was.

SPEAKER_00

You're I don't tell me you're condoning.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not condoning this. No, I'm not. But hey, hey, it's not as bad. You're you're the you're a it's hope for him to come back from it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. That video was bad, dude. That video was really bad.

SPEAKER_01

Is it really that bad?

SPEAKER_00

It was like it was one step above the Diddy video.

SPEAKER_01

That's how No, it was below, not no, like below, yeah, like a notch down. Like that it's like Diddy grabbed her then then punched her, and then all yeah, but what how did that diddy video start? I grab and pull. What did Tank do? Come on, man. But hey, we're not gonna go into all that because we that Cassie ain't innocent either. So she ain't guilty though.

SPEAKER_00

She ain't guilty.

SPEAKER_01

I bet she not.

SPEAKER_00

She's and now this is like now what? Just to get the big one. This is like the third third time Tank's on camera being physical with you. You know when you pull a female's hair, you got issues. You pull a female's hair in the bedroom when she says it's okay.

SPEAKER_01

I don't understand. I don't understand, bro. Just get you a heat. There's plenty of girls. Why you got a girl that go work at the bar?

SPEAKER_00

You're Javonta. What's wrong with girls working at what Willie? Just shut up.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, at the bar.

SPEAKER_00

Willie, really, Willie is disgusting. Yeah, you are just you are you are come on. No, it's yo, this is a real tank sexual. Look at him. Look at him, look at Willie. Just go find somebody else, bro. No, but you're right.

SPEAKER_01

Find find a McDonald's.

SPEAKER_00

Like, like she's your I guess. She's the mother of your kid or whatever, but that's another thing.

SPEAKER_01

That's the mother of the kid. I think so. Yeah.

Teofimo Vs Ryan Talk Plus Shoutouts

SPEAKER_00

I don't think it's always her. It's always the same girl. I think. I could be wrong. I don't know. It's just her. Tank tank takes a step forward and a step back all the time, man. Sad. Sad. Sad, bro. Sad. Another person in that weight class.

SPEAKER_01

He'll be back.

SPEAKER_00

I hope so.

SPEAKER_01

He'll be back.

SPEAKER_00

He has to be back now. He's gotta fight. That's all he could do. So so and not girls. Stop fighting girls. Um, yeah, another people, more people in the news too.

SPEAKER_01

Uh somebody else beating somebody else?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, but but uh my boy Tio, Tiafimo, baby. Apparently in the works for July, we it's it's in the early stages. We're we're gonna get Ryan Garcia versus Tiafimo Lopez, man. What? Yeah, at 147. To me, to me, man, and listen, I know Tio is coming off a big loss, but damn, bro. Right, you you knock out Ryan Garcia, my guy Tio is right there again. Right there again. And and Ryan Garcia dangerous with but Tio gonna expose his flaws. They're both they both have styles that that aren't flawless. Yeah, but uh what Ryan Garcia's chin is about to get tested by that's another payday for him. Oh I'm gonna bread.

SPEAKER_01

Let me hold some Tio. Hey, I'm yeah, can I DM you? I need uh some money, bro.

SPEAKER_00

We gotta get Tio back on. I know he's been a little quiet lately, but he's slowly coming back to the media side.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, he handled this loss pretty well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely. Uh because I'm as far as we know, media-wise. Yeah, media-wise.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but media-wise, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and that's really it, man. We just had to chop some shit up with these fights for our fans. Again, we started this day off with the Alex Vargas interview, Alex El Toro Vargas April 17th, Friday night on the Alicia Baumgartner undercard. Uh, Willie and I will be there. We will be in the crowd. Um, yo, oh, real quick, real quick, real quick. Our our Australian friend just just snagged a belt, man. Oh, yeah. Um, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I wasn't just talking to him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Uh yeah. He just a fan of the show. Yo, I'm sorry. We had a stressful day. Say it. I don't know how you say it. We don't we don't know we don't want to mispronounce his name, so we are gonna look it up. Kai Kai Huts Hodgson isn't it Hodgson? This is funny actually. What's his name?

SPEAKER_01

Kai sun Hodson.

SPEAKER_00

It's Hodgson, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Hodson. You said Hodgson. Hodson.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, we're gonna yo Kai Hodson. Fan of the show, uh, fan of ours, friend of ours now, Australian running up the rankings, bro. Top 30, top 30. Fucking snag the belt in Australia. Good for him. WBC belt, and he's not Latino. Kai Hodgson, man, props to you. Uh was coming off some other mental stuff, and yo, boxers, man. Boxers got a rough life. Yep, but Kai doesn't pull chick's hair either.

Neighborhood Fight And Closing Calls

SPEAKER_01

Yo, I'm about to get somebody, I'm about to get that dude next door to pull your hair.

SPEAKER_00

So prior to the show.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna get him to pull your hair, right?

SPEAKER_00

So prior to the show, like Willie pulls up, right? And we'll just talk about this and then we'll we'll end the show with this. Prior to the show, Willie pulls up, he calls me, he's like, Yo, there's like a big fight outside your house. And I'm like, What? So I go outside and it's a bunch of Latinos get mixing it up. Uh, family of Latinos are on top of another. Was he Latino? I don't know what he was. He was some drunk idiot, and he's in my face, he's gangster, he's gangster, whatever. So we call the cops, cops come. I'm a cop caller, I'm a cop caller. Call the cops, cops come. Um, yeah, it was just a mess.

SPEAKER_01

Then he said, he said, Puma um hit him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, then he tells the cops I hit him, which I didn't. Um, anyway, whatever. It was a rough, rough, rough going before the show, but we made it. We interviewed Alex Vargas uh again, April 17th. Tune in. Um, if you don't or you know you haven't already, check out empirenutrition.com. Um, use code SPAR S P-A-R for 10% off. Uh, even if you are local and you go in store, shout out Puma and the Spar In. And my guy that owns it said he'll give you 10% off on everything in the store, which is all supplements. Um, stay tuned. We'll we'll probably be back next week. If not next week, the week after that. We're trying to be more consistent, but we do have lives. Uh, that's really it. Happy Easter, y'all. Jesus rose today, and we did it. We did the show. So I got a lot of editing to do. Um, please like, follow, subscribe. Tell your boxing friends to follow us. We're trying to get that following up. Um, it's really hard. We don't have a producer.

SPEAKER_01

But hey, we followed by boxes, so you might as well follow us.

SPEAKER_00

And and and any boxers that want to get interviewed, DM us, let us know, and we show up for you. You get the greatest fans in the world, which is me and Willie, Willie and I. Yeah. Yeah. Real quick though, on in closing, Willie, what is your prediction for Progray versus Ben? Let's get a bet going. Shit. I'm doing Ben Stoppage sixth round.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Same here.

SPEAKER_00

Ben stoppage sixth round or under.

SPEAKER_01

He's stopping.

SPEAKER_00

Unfortunately, unfortunately. I hope that doesn't happen. I'm gonna throw 100 on it. Hope it doesn't happen. Ben stoppage, sixth round or under, and I'm gonna go Fury Points.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Fury points.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe Fury KO T K O just to make it more interesting.

SPEAKER_01

But I don't really care.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Also, look ahead to May, man. May boxing hits up again, but let's get through April 1st. Let's get through April. All right, y'all. Peace. Like, follow, subscribe.