Boxing Fireworks And Hard Truths

We go from Fourth of July chaos to a full boxing recap that runs through Barclays Center in Brooklyn and the holiday card in Ohio, with plenty of crowd stories and real-time reactions. We also push back on the “he gets hit too much” narrative and argue that recovery, adjustments, and results matter more than perfect defense.

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Fourth Of July Catch-Up

SPEAKER_04 0:13

Yo, what up, what up, what up? It is the Spar Unboxing podcast, second time around in July because we effed up the first one.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 0:21

Didn't record our sound, our beautiful voices. What up, bro?

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Crazy. What up? Yo, cool. What up, man? How was your fourth of July, big?

SPEAKER_04 0:29

Good, good, good. Yours.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Shout out to you. I was you was there when they they um Independence Day, right? You was there when they first got out of Independence, right? I know. What? It wasn't? No. Oh, my bad.

SPEAKER_04 0:41

Call me old.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

That's unc, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

You could tell, you could tell Willie had kids now because he got dad jokes.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

That's it.

SPEAKER_04 0:50

But yeah, we're coming off the 4th of July. We did record July 2nd. Um, we were we were at the Brooklyn card. We're a little behind now. We were a little behind last recording too, but not too far behind. But now we're way behind. We're way behind. But it is what it is. We're gonna do it again. We're gonna talk about it again because the sound should be right now. If it's not, I quit this fucking podcast and I'm done. But what'd you do for the fourth? Let's stay on track.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

The fourth? No, I was just at family house and regular shit. Um, they did fireworks. Uh the baby was not scared.

SPEAKER_04 1:18

Your baby, yeah, yeah. This dude's baby just sleeps through everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

She's just chilling, bro. It's Willie.

SPEAKER_04 1:23

Sleeps through everything, late for everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

But why y'all put my baby in it? Um what you do?

SPEAKER_04 1:32

Use my pool side by a yeah, fucking white people shit. Glizzy goblin, you know, fireworks. Nah, we went to my my brother-in-law's house, you know him, Big Frank.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Big Frank, Big Frank, just low-key.

SPEAKER_04 1:46

Yo, but but we had like a luckily we got out of the pool to watch the fights. There was fights last night, July 4th in Ohio, we're gonna touch on. And thank god we did, because there was a mini tornado. I'm not even kidding.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

It was a all of a sudden Frank's outside, and me and Melissa are inside, and we're my wife, and we're like, yo, do they need help out there? Like, are they like what's going on? We look out the window, and and my wife goes, Yo, go out there and help him. Holy shit. Go out. Yo, mini tornado in the backyard out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Was y'all fool flying everywhere?

SPEAKER_04 2:15

Like everything was flying, yo, because they live pans. They live north shore, so like the trees were coming down. It was it was bad. Damn, um, but yeah, it was good. And and you know what didn't have a lot of fireworks or a lot of tornadoes.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

We didn't have no fireworks.

SPEAKER_04 2:29

No, do you know what didn't? That July 4th. Oh, that car a little lackluster, but um one fight was all right until the at the end. But we'll get there. We we have a lot to cover right now. Um, you had a it looked like your fourth of drive had a lot of people, though.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

You think so?

SPEAKER_04 2:44

Yeah, like you had you had you put it.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

I didn't know most of them people, like usually just family, but now it's just family's getting weird, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:52

Oh no, as you get older, bro. Family's getting weird, and same here. Yeah, I'm trying to play in a trip with like my friends, but they all have families. I'm like, yo, we can't even go to like a baseball game.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Yeah, because they're like, oh no, I didn't even play basketball pong either. Like, that's the game we got over there.

SPEAKER_04 3:06

Basketball pong? Yeah, you could tell that's like uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

The buckets got the busted with the basketball, yeah. Yeah, you you never seen it online?

SPEAKER_04 3:13

Yeah, I think I have.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Yeah, that's it. My cousin bought that shit. So see, like we play that shit every time.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

Our family parties, nobody even like drinks anymore. I gotta like be careful. I mean that's not quite people's shit. No, no, it's not. I'm like, come on, guys, drunk.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

We gotta keep it going. My little cousin, uh my guy and my niece.

SPEAKER_04 3:31

Uh you know what's funny though, like speaking of that, like like white people shit, black people shit, like party wise, yeah. Nah, we all drink. It's just differently. We all drink, it's just different. Oh, it's just different.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

No, I suppose it's yeah, but like, but like it's a I've been to some of your barbecues, bro. You didn't go to my barbecue.

SPEAKER_04 3:49

We all drinking. I was taking shots with your grandma, man.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

And she was giving them to me.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

You should have came, you should have came to the barbecue yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

Yeah, she was there, yeah, ripping them.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Nah, uh, yeah, no, she was. She was drinking, but Willie's grandma ripped Hennessy. She forgets now, so she forgets she got a drink. She's like, Nobody gave me a drink, give me another one. I was like, yo, she's like, baby, who baby that is? Then she goes, like, I think you adopted that baby. Yo, grandma's wow. That's funny.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Sad, but funny.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

But she knows she didn't remember the baby at all. She's like, I gotta get her something. And she repeats everything.

SPEAKER_04 4:26

Like, yeah, she's old no man.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

But she remembered, like, way, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Like that generation, it's actually sad. Like, that's a tough generation. All all cultures, whatever that that whole generation, 90-year-old plus, and they're all they're all passing away now. You know, they're 90. It's time.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

But she got the vaccine. I don't know how she's still alive.

SPEAKER_04 4:45

Shut up, but uh, but it's crazy, it's it's crazy, like that whole tough, tough generation, man. That we just got us pansies running around complaining about it.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Like it's nuts, bro. Um, Arthur B killing her, though.

SPEAKER_04 5:00

Arthur, yeah. Who?

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Offright is just yo, this is the show of dad jokes, apparently. Nah, that's you always say that.

Barclays Night Sets The Stage

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Arthur Begin, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:13

Um, yeah, but back to boxing. Let's stick to boxing. Uh, good little July 4th card we're gonna uh review. We did a preview of it, but you all didn't hear it because I didn't record the audio because I'm an idiot. Um, but we are gonna have to touch on what we did do in Brooklyn two weeks ago now. Oh, we we did we did go to the fights in Brooklyn, Xander's Eyes versus Jerome Boots Ennis. We're gonna try and talk about it quick because we've got to get our opinion out there. People have been asking, believe it or not, and we've been slacking as usual.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Damn, I don't even remember that card. What happened?

SPEAKER_04 5:43

It does, yo, time is flying.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

It feels like a while ago.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

But on that card was Ben Whitaker versus Richard Rivera, the Popeye weirdo, yeah, Imindiano Vargas versus Bryce Mills. Yeah, um, we had Jahai Tucker, our boy, versus Yuri Sedano. We're gonna touch on that quick. And we had obviously the main event, Xander's Eyes for Sturan Boots, and it's for the WBAWBO World Welterweight titles. Where should we begin? Let's talk about the event itself, like we did.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Now the event, this fight should have been on on 4th of July because it was definitely fireworks at this point.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

It was very some uh exciting fights um yeah at Barclays, and and it was like we had decent seats. We went on the floor like us.

SPEAKER_04 6:28

We didn't sit on the floor like usual, but yeah, but we was in the building, yeah. And we were one row, we had actually for viewing the fight, we had really probably the best seats you could have. Yeah, for viewing the fight.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

If we were a little lower, it'd be maybe a little better, but it's just but like seeing the fight was yeah, yo, because everyone stands now. Yeah, everybody was standing that last fight. Shout out to Boots and uh and Xander. They had the fight, everybody standing, like literally, and the Philly people was wilding.

SPEAKER_04 6:53

Philly did sell that.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Philly was wilding, and um, yeah, it was good. Yeah, it was good. So we are we gonna start with the main event or we should just go from the bottom up.

SPEAKER_04 7:01

Let's start from the bottom up. Started from the bottom now. We're here. We'll start from the bottom up.

Ben Whitaker Needs A Real Test

SPEAKER_04 7:05

Um uh I guess we can start. We'll just go to Ben Whitaker and Richie Rivera.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Oh, yeah, Ben.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

Willie's a big Ben Whitaker fan. I actually missed this fight.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Yeah, you was not. I had to run because I'm like, yo, I got it. You know why I missed it?

SPEAKER_04 7:16

Because Jamal was like, yo, just wait online with me, man. I want to get food. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Yeah, right. I dipped on y'all. I said, Yo, I gotta go see Ben. Yeah, and I dipped. And um, yeah, it happened in two seconds. It was over. I didn't miss much.

SPEAKER_04 7:31

While I was in line though, Michaela Meyer walks by. Ah, you lucky, and I blushed and I she she tapped me up, yeah, touched my fist. Yeah, I was like, You're the real quote.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

You're the real quote.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

I think she gets freaked out that uh that a freaking ugly, almost 40-year-old bald male, male pattern, baldness male.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Damn, get it out, man.

SPEAKER_04 7:52

You think she gets freaked out? I was like, hey, every time I see him, like, hey, how are you? How you doing?

SPEAKER_00 7:58

That's wow.

SPEAKER_04 7:59

Um but yeah, so I did miss that fight. Uh listen, Ben Whitaker did his thing. Willie uh agrees too. We agreed on this on the last time we recorded this that you know he needs a he needs a little better opposition. Oh, yeah, yeah. This was his welcoming welcome to America.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Yeah, he got he had a blessing from the uh from Eddie Herm, and so but that's how it goes.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

You know, Eddie's gonna milk the cow while he can. Ben Whitaker is exciting, he's flashy, he dresses flashy, he fits the part. He's he seems well spoken. We don't know if he's well spoken. He just he's just more educated because he's from England. He's he seems well spoken.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

He but he gave me a little cringe a little bit, a little bit, just a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Why?

SPEAKER_00 8:36

I don't know. It's just him and uh Anthony Joshua. He reminded me of Anthony Joshua for like two seconds. No, it's not like I hate him.

SPEAKER_04 8:46

Here we go again. Technical difficulties. Uh, take three on this episode of Spar Unboxing Podcast. We are back, Willie. We are back. Uh but yeah, we're talking about Ben Whitaker and Richard Rivera. Um, the Popeye guy, we were saying how we left off or messed up because uh our screen's freezing and whatnot. But we left off with, yeah, Popeye Rivera. If you're gonna dress up as Popeye, you're gonna act like Popeye. Remember, Popeye had the big biceps, you better knock shit out or at least do better than you did. Big underdog. But whatever. It is what it is. What but let's just touch on this real quick because we we gotta keep it moving since we're we're time constricted now. Um, who do you want to see Ben Whitaker fight next? We we said that we said that it's it's time for him to get some competition.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Yeah. Oh shit, what did we say? I forgot.

SPEAKER_04 9:34

You know, uh you know who I was thinking? Um bulletproof, Brandon Glanton.

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Oh, yeah, that'd be a tough fight, right?

SPEAKER_04 9:42

Yeah, I think Glanton gets his ass, man.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

I don't if he got a box, he got a box. He can't who? He got a box. Because he's not gonna hurt Glanton round. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

A guy like him, man.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

He's not gonna hurt him. No, that's gonna go all rounds.

SPEAKER_04 9:56

I think I know he need uh he need a challenge, so I think is Glanton's gonna be like a little heavier, though. He might be a little heavier. So I I don't maybe hmm I don't know, man. There was a few guys we were naming, but a guy like that, a guy with a chin that that isn't gonna be pushed around, you know what I'm saying? Someone like that who all that flashy dancey shit.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

I think because uh um he can beat uh David Morrell for real.

SPEAKER_04 10:22

So you you keep you said that last time too. Is that a fight you want to see though?

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Yeah, that would have been nice. So I could shot somebody up in the comments.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Who what someone was coming at you?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

I I wrote it in the comment of somebody on one of the pages, yeah, and somebody was like, You bugged it, I'm bugging like, and then after that, David Morrell got spoken. Yeah, I wish I could go back and find it. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 10:44

You might be able to. You might be able to. Um, but yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot of names. I I want to see him. Listen, if he's on his American tour, he's on his American Taylor Swift tour. I I want to see, like I said, I think Atif Alberton. You just you disagree with me. Yeah, I think Atif.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Atif, that's too early for Atif.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

There's that guy Hot Rod, Rajivoj or whatever the fuck his name is, they call him Hot Rod. Khalil Ko. Remember we talked about him?

SPEAKER_00 11:09

Khalil Koe, you said.

SPEAKER_04 11:10

Uh, but that's really that's really it for them. Um, but you know, we'll see what they do. I'm sure I'm sure Eddie Hearn's gonna just milk him. That that's what I see happening. But yeah, that was the first you know, big fight on the main card. Ben Whitaker versus Richard Rivera.

Emiliano Vargas Controversial Stoppage

SPEAKER_04 11:25

Then we had Emiliano Vargas versus Bryce Mills. Oh god, and um the entrances, man. Talk about the entrances.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Uh it was lit. Um, what'd you say? The uh he came out in a Syracuse jersey, Bryce Mills.

SPEAKER_04 11:39

Carmelo, Carmelo Anthony Nick's Nick's just won.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

Yo, it's coming out.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Oh, I got a Knicks shirt on, too, man. That's crazy. How ironic is that? You planned that. Um no, I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

I've been buying, I I've just been, I'm not gonna lie, like at night, you know, when you scroll through your phone, you're just buying Nick shit. Instagram things got me, so I'm like, oh yeah, that looks nice. Click, click, click.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

You gotta get scammed.

SPEAKER_04 11:59

We never won, man. So this is definitely look, you could tell it's a little off kilter too.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Yeah, whatever the logo.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

My logo's a little off.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

You made it yourself, you can made it yourself.

SPEAKER_04 12:08

It's itching and shit. No, if I made it myself, it'd probably be better.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Yeah, that ass. That's what I was saying. You could have made it yourself.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

All right, shut up. Just Emiliano Vargas versus Bryce Mills.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Um, I forgot how Emilio came out though. Oh, he came out with Jadakiss.

SPEAKER_04 12:22

And was it no? I think he had no, he came out scatterable.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Scatterboo. Wait, somebody came out with Jadakiss that night.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

I think it was it was uh what's his name? Boots, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. We're gonna have to wait for that one. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Scatterboos. Yeah, we just talk about that shit. Well, why the fuck scatterboo? How the fuck they get close? I don't understand. And he bring it out with scatterboo to a New York fight.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

Like, uh, but listen, they both they it was cool to come out with him, I think.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

He's everywhere but playing football, yeah. Like hurt ass.

SPEAKER_04 12:51

And you I remember you got mad at me. I was like, he got he's getting fat.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Yeah, getting fat. He's a running back, like he's he can't exercise. You can like fat, bro. Um, how is he gonna lose weight if he can't run?

SPEAKER_04 13:02

Yeah, but like I just feel like he's doing like you just said, he's doing everything else.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Stop eating. He probably drinking a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

He can stop eat, but whatever. Um, one one thing Vargas did though before we get into the fight itself, and we gotta keep it moving, we've got to go a little faster here because it's gonna be a long show. Um, one thing he did do that that was annoying, cringy, very cringy, was at the end of his fight. He's like, Oh yeah, I'm with Scannaboo, blah blah blah. He's a legend, he's a New York legend. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's not a New York legend yet. He's not a New York legend yet.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

He's not even gonna be one because that team is gonna be ass.

SPEAKER_04 13:36

Yeah, but but I'm saying, like, there's still time, you know, but he is not a legend yet. He had a few good games because he ran hard, and whatever. That's that Cali, you know, Cali, he's a little out of a little out of touch with the New York, New York market.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

But but he did, he did look good. Um, Bryce, I really thought Bryce was gonna be like last the whole fight. Yeah, like I didn't think he was gonna win, but last the whole fight, he fucked my ticket up with that one, man.

SPEAKER_04 13:59

Um, Bryce came out looking good, Bryce Mill.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Bad stoppage, man. He hit him and pushed him on the floor, hit him in the back of the head, pushed him.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

In real time, in real time, it didn't look like a bad stoppage. So I can't really fault the ref there. On the replays, yeah, it did. When you slow down, but in real time, we were all like, oh man, that guy's gonna get hurt. That guy's gonna get hurt.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Yeah, so Emilio's getting better, man. With the angles. I'm like, hold up, he's been he been uh he had to been training with fucking Jesse um Ben Barrias, man. He had to been training.

SPEAKER_04 14:26

Oh, really? You think so?

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Yeah, it had to be some them angles was looking nice. I never see him do that.

SPEAKER_04 14:32

That's a big weight that I don't know if they spotted because Jesse's tiny, but those angles definitely but that's a great that's a great compliment. If you're comparing him to his angles, that's a great compliment.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

He was getting there, man. I'm like, yo, he's using them, yeah. Because I want to relate because I want to relate this to the um the future fight that just came out this weekend. Because it's like I'm watching Emilio Vargas get better, and then I see Scoot struggling. He's struggling and not doing his uh all that footwork that he's been doing Scooter Davis just yo. He all that footwork he be doing, yeah, and then he didn't even use it.

SPEAKER_04 15:10

At least use it if you like that's one Emiliano, but but this is what I said too. Like one through five rounds one through five, he's a monster and dangerous. We gotta see if he could bring that to five through ten and then eventually eleven and twelve.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

But who like I don't know who he can fight.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

I mean, well, what well he's getting belts at a very tough weight class, so there's a lot of that's what I mean. He needs to show that next that next step because because his his weight class is tough. He's in that 130, 135, 140, 147, 145 range. You know what I mean? Like that shit is that's a tough, tough weight class, and that's where all the the big names are. So like Shakur, Keyshawn, he's real talent, you know? Real next level talent. Um but yeah, we'll we'll see. Or no, what is he? He's 147. I'm sorry. Is he what yeah, he's 147. Yeah, Emiliano's 147. Yeah, yes. Never never lightweight. Never he's 147, bro.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

Um wait, what? Super lightweight?

SPEAKER_04 16:18

Am I wrong? Am I am I bugging?

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Yeah, you're tripping.

SPEAKER_04 16:22

I think it's about a buck 30, nigga. Yeah, he might be. Super lightweight is a buck. Yeah, my bad. Um, yeah, so yeah, okay, but all those names are still are still there. Uh but listen, he's got he's got his dad around him. He's the big name. He he got prospect of the year by the ring. So he'll be alright. He'll be alright.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

Yeah, nah, he's gonna be good though.

SPEAKER_04 16:46

Yeah, it's 135 to 140.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

I'm an idiot. Um 140?

SPEAKER_04 16:52

I didn't know that. 140. Super lightweight, because lightweight's 135. Um, but but again, still, we don't even uh I wasn't wrong totally off though, because look, Shakur's at 147 now, Tio's at 147. Yeah, so so I wasn't too far off. Yeah, I think I think he's talking about he's in he wants to catch weight at 147. 145.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Yeah, like at 144, so he's still at 140.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Keyshawn.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

Keyshawn is there though.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

So that's what I mean. Like all Teo.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

It's looking like Keyshawn will be fighting his mandatory.

SPEAKER_04 17:24

Teo and Rolly, 147, Devin Haney and Teo.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

I mean Devin Haney and uh Keishon. So 147 is all the names just went there, came back. All the the top uh names is in that weight class. Yes, that's but yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

Listen, Emiliano looked good, did his thing, brought that Cali energy, another like kind of New York thing. Yeah, yeah. His like New York show. But he he did he he got he did enough to get him out.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

He's like a chameleon at this point. Yes, he was at the Puerto Rican uh Puerto Rican uh Super Bowl. He's not even Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_04 17:57

Oh, Emiliano, yeah, yeah. That's probably how he got on the card, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

He's just over here and uh bringing Cali to New York and I I bet you that's how he got on it because Sanders Hayes was the main event.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Um that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 18:14

But uh next on the docket or on the card, which is why we were in Brooklyn. Well,

Jahai Tucker Wins A Grinder

SPEAKER_04 18:20

I was in Brooklyn anyway. Well, I got right off the plane from Hawaii straight to Brooklyn to see my guy Jahai Tucker.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Or jet lag too.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

Yeah, hell yeah. Totally. I was good energy wise, though. Yeah, yeah. I lost my voice quick, though, which is not like me. Willie, after the first oh, it was after the Jahai fight. Damn, you lost your voice already? Like, yeah, yeah, man, shut up. Uh Jahai Tucker versus Yuri Sidano. Big fight, big ranking fight. This fight, they're both on that like cusp of are we it or are we not it? And the winner of this fight is like, yeah, you you're about that life. And Jahai did pull it off, man.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

This was that probably most exciting fight.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

It was like no, no, no. No, the main event was exciting.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

It was exciting. I think it only lasted though. Yeah, but it was about the whole fight.

SPEAKER_04 19:09

This was a up and this was a close fight, a close fight, I'd say for the boxing fan, but most exciting was.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

But the only ones that was watching it really while we was there was the boxing fans. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

But that this is one of those fights. Like, if if you don't know these guys yet, but you better get to know them, and winner of this puts you there.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

Yeah, you know them now because they was throwing. I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_04 19:27

It was a close fight, very close fight. I thought um the two of the judges had it 98, 92, 97, 93, another one had it 95, 95. Yeah, I thought Jahai Tucker edged it out just by activity, but again, that pressure was I was scared. What that judge must have scored it, but based off that pressure alone from Sidaneo.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

It had to be. I mean, Jahad landed the uh cleaner punches, and more punches and bunches, and more punches than bunches, yeah. More combinations. Uh, but you know, Jahad, he he just pissed me off sometimes, but he just he could just beat people with their jab. His jab is so good that he really can just beat. He just liked the fight, man.

SPEAKER_04 20:04

And it's just this was a this was a strong test for Jahai. Yeah, and it was he had to deal with Sidaniel's power, his pressure, his physicality. Sadeno was big. Um, he had to use his movement, he he had to use his IQ, which which I don't I think that that's one thing he didn't use enough, in my opinion, was his IQ.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

He got uh he got Olympic throat. Yeah, Olympic throat. Yo, somebody in the comments said that shit. I was like, yo, that's crazy. This fight showed that he had to be from New York, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

Yeah, I don't know, man. That was that was funny. I saw that too. But but this fight showed that he could handle a tough, big, big, undefeated middleweight. He showed it before as I as I talked about.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

Every fight, he his road to glory is it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 20:51

Like crazy.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Every fight is is a struggle. Like, like, like guys, you ever since he missed weight that one time, I forgot which fight that was. He missed weight, yeah. Yeah, we were I was there, and then I was there for that. And then Todd Rick just started feeding him dogs, doggy dogs, man.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

But he always apparently helped him because here he is. He had two belts.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

What is the kind of belts?

SPEAKER_04 21:11

Uh it's the regional belts, so the regional, the regional belts, I forget what they are, but two regional belts. But what that means with the regional belts is in the rankings, yeah. He's closer to the real, it's closer to a championship fight. And then when you can't have those belts when you go for the championship, like but speaking on what you said, him fighting those dogs, that there's like a trend going on betting-wise, because obviously me and Willie are or Willie and I are degenerate gamblers. So there is a trend going on, and uh he opened up as a favorite here. Jahai did open up as a favorite, but towards the end, towards the fight got closer, yeah, it it was almost a 50 50 pick'em fight. And now that's happened now seven times out of his last 12 fights. So so all seven times out of the last 12 fights, Jahai opened up as a favorite and sharp money, people threw money. On the underdog because they thought he was going to lose. And all seven of those times, Jahai Tucker won or draw. He drew once. But but so six times he won, once he draws. So all seven of those times, they were wrong. So people are betting against my guy towards the end, right? Like he's going to lose. Yeah. Kind of like a dude who just won the championship.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 22:19

Jalen Brunson, baby. Everybody beats Jahai Tucker till it's time to beat Jahai Tucker, man. Think about that for a second.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

I thought he was gonna forget about that whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 22:30

Seven of his last 12, though. That's that's that's trendy, bro. That's trendy. That's trendy, though. That's trendy. And I'm not saying he he won, he lost one fight out of those, but like 12 fights he won them all. But seven of the last 12 people put sharp money against him, and he came out on top, man. So so yo, stop sleeping on my guy, man.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah, yeah, I gotta say.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

He did what he did. He did what he did. Listen, it did he show some flaws yet? And and you know what? Another thing, Tim Bradley. Tim Bradley's been against Jahai Tucker for a long time now. Me and Jahai have talked about it, me and other people have talked about it, and now all of a sudden, Tim Bradley is on this side.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Tim, bring your ass on this side with us, man. With Jahad.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

And we're not hating, it is hard because we've said shit and we're like, oh fuck. Actually, I like that guy. It happens, it happens.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

But but still, you know, we heard it's hard to be in this position, like, you know, speaking about people and shit.

SPEAKER_04 23:21

Of course, of course. We don't mean like we're just here for entertainment and it's a hobby. We drink, I'm drinking cut water, and we talk boxing. But again, Jahai did do his thing, but but now, now it's gonna get real. It's gonna get once you enter that top 15, bro, top 15, top 10, it's gonna get real feisty. So hopefully he could pull it off. I think he can. He has the work ethic. We know that we know his family, we know his pops. Jahai definitely has the work ethic, but we gotta put it all together now, and I'm hoping he does, man. We're gonna actually try and get him on the show. Maybe next episode we'll get Jahai Tucker on for an interview. That's our guys.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

That's gonna be a good episode, man. He's gonna be cheesing, bro.

SPEAKER_04 23:59

And that's our guy, so so maybe we'll get him on. Yo, but also, too, real quick, last thing I'll say about how you said um corn.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Yeah, Shane's Mosley.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

I like that when you said that. Yeah, yeah. So that I want Jahai Tucker to fight him. Yeah, that's a good name, good recognition. He's a little ahead in the rankings right now. Yeah, I want him to fight him. Um, who else? Name some names. Well, I'm gonna grab another drink before we get into the Xander's eyes, Jerome Boots and it.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Damn, Laura's still a champion. Yeah, yeah. He is so old. What did I say though?

SPEAKER_04 24:30

Bronco talk about real quick, real quick. Just talk about though the um the fight itself because we saw it. And uh, what we say about Sidaniel's style, who does he look like?

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Oh, yeah, Sid Daniel. Yeah, St. Daniel's like uh uh Pause Man, uh Errol Spence, man. Oh man, it's it was a yeah, he would just try to walk down Jahad the whole time. Um, not really landing nothing crazy, but his body shots was vicious. I tell you that. I know Jahad was feeling those punches, man. Yeah, oh yeah, oh shit, man. He almost threw him over the roads. Yeah, and then he called him a little inward. He called him a little inward afterwards. I'm like, yeah, Jahan is you know, straight hood, bro. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

But that sometimes that doesn't help Jahan, you know?

SPEAKER_00 25:19

No, no, he could have lost the fight.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

We gotta we gotta mature a little bit. You know what I mean? He could have lost the fight over.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Javin move. I don't know if he he felt like he was losing.

SPEAKER_04 25:29

He picked his big ass up and had him over here.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

I didn't know I didn't understand that. There was the last round. I don't know what was going on. Was he frustrated? Gotta ask him when he came on the podcast, man. Gotta ask him about that shit when he came on.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

There was another wrestling undertone that I'm gonna get to too. Yeah, I'll talk about when we talk about the next fight. No, no, no, not this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

That same weekend, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:49

Same weekend. There's another little wrestling thing. Oh I'll talk about it when we get to it, though. Um, but yeah, that's the sky's the limit for Jahi Tucker. Listen, he's a dog, he has a chin, and and again, he's he's he's proven everyone wrong, and the proof is in the writing, man. Like I said, seven times, seven times in the last 12 fights. Boxing's Jalen Brunson, soon to be world champ, like Jalen Brunson. They're they're they're putting sharp, sharp money on on him in the end, seven times in his last 12 fights. He was not the the fit uh he the odds got closer because sharp money came in against him, and all seven times Jahi Tucker came out on top. He drew once, but he still beat the odds. What does that tell you, man? Cut it out, guys. Cut it out. It's like when I bet on the Jets, don't bet with your heart and I lose. Cut it out, man. Cut it out. But yeah, that was good. I'm glad we went there for him, man. Uh, he had a lot of Philly fans too, bro. Yeah, a lot of Philly showed up for him.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

I think that was because he was in a camp with them. Uh with Ennis with Ennis. Yeah, so yo, Jahad, that's one thing. He networked, he's he's everywhere. Like he's everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

He was in Texas at uh he was us. Jay Prince's camp. Yeah, so yeah, his gym. I'm sorry. Shakur's camp now. You see what Jay Prince is doing, by the way. Do you see that his gym?

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Nah, man.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

They're making that's Shakur's home gym now, man. They putting Shakur Steven crap everywhere. Renovating. That's dope. Speaking of Jay Prince, real quick. Um, if you did make it this far, I have to shout out our girl Ginny Fuchs. Fuchs.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Yeah. Is she with Jay Prince?

SPEAKER_04 27:18

She she trained there, yeah. She she trained, she doesn't train there like all, but she she goes through there, I believe. Yeah. So um she is fighting, she's getting her belt shot. It's a good friend of the show. Um, she's also sending us some merch. Oh, lit. Yeah. Uh, we gotta try to go to that actually. We gotta talk about that. Where's that at? It's in August, it's in Cali. If you want to make a little two-day trip, little red eye. Yeah, maybe we might have to talk about that. But we'll get there when we get there. Let's keep stay on track here because we have a whole nother card to talk about.

Boots Ennis Stops Xander Zayas

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Um, Xander's eye is though, versus Boots Ennis. Again, we're a little late to the game. Listen, man, Boots Ennis is the guy now. Crawford's out, Tank is in and out. We don't know, but for for the people, for the people, you know. For the I can't say anything else. He's uh, you know, he's he's hip hop's favorite. Right? I know you see it. That was a good one. I know you see it. He is the guy, man. He is the guy right now. Uh Boots is the guy right now. Boots is hip hop sky. I didn't say it. I didn't say the black sky. You know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

I don't know, because I wasn't on his on his bandwagon. My cousin was.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

But now, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

We no, I'm a big fan, but I I still uh it's still hard to believe.

SPEAKER_04 28:29

Like, what do you mean? He is well, Xander. Let's talk about the fight. Let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Because I don't know, Xander is not really. I didn't we already knew we went to a bunch of Xander fights already to see them fight, and every time we bet on him to get a knockout, he would lose he wouldn't get the knockout. He would win, but he wouldn't get the knockout, and we seen it like Jaha was chasing him down for a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 28:51

I'm I'm gonna talk about this and I'm gonna get very animated and a little angry when I get it when I get on my rant. But yeah, but as fans, we gotta be better though. And I know what you're saying. You're saying he got hit too much.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

Who?

SPEAKER_04 29:02

Um, you're saying Boots gets hit too much?

SPEAKER_00 29:04

Nah, I wasn't saying that. I don't know, no, no, no, no, I wasn't saying that. I was just saying, like, it's just like it was levels. I felt like he wasn't on his level, and we already was picking a knockout to him to stop it. Like, if we was on that already, the whole world was, unless you were Puerto Rican. I mean, he did show up for like a round or two, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:25

So Xander, we can't take anything away from Xander.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

No, because he he really made this fight.

SPEAKER_04 29:30

Boots even said he's like, he didn't have to fight me. He's got two belts, he chose to fight me, he came to me. Yeah, so like you that you know what I mean. That's good on Xander.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

That's balls, he got he got that Puerto Rican pride, and the rest the rest of his camp didn't. Because his uh we I knew it from the beginning that it was gonna be a bad night when his his manager and trainer wasn't talking as confident.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

I I think he needs because he has he has the size, he has the work ethic, right? Yeah, and he he won't sometimes pride gets in the way, but I think he needs a little camp change. Yeah, yeah, I believe it too. I think Xander needs a little camp, not everybody, but just throw someone else in the mix.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Yeah, we better get somebody that believes in you because they didn't not feel comfortable. Uh yo, I swear I said that. I'm like, yo, they uh did you see them talking? It's not confident, it's not like um Bosey in his. He was so confident, and Eddie Hearn is always confident in his fighters. Like he makes you believe that they they god out there sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 30:26

Eddie Hearn is I'm not gonna lie, he's he's growing on me as a promoter. He's a very good promoter. He's my favorite promoter, he's very good, very good promoter.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

He's the only one I actually know.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

Well, like Bob Aram, he's he's got people that do it for him. Top rank is still really good.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, I mean, like, I don't know about developing, I'm talking about just yeah, promoting their guy.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

Like he's well spoken, he's yeah, he's putting the events on. He brings them. I like that he brings them all over now, yeah, brings them to America, and it seemed like they got he got good relationships with them, man.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Yeah, and he's just seemed like a good person, man. Every like when you try to talk to him, he's like I'm being an asshole. But yeah, he's not really he just is he gets mad, yo.

SPEAKER_04 31:08

So we met Eddie Hearn a few times now, kind of harassed him a few times now, and he probably don't even remember who we are. But once he sees a camera, bro, he's like, Nope, I'm out. He like dips, which is good. I I get it, it's good. But speaking of that, too, before we get into the fight the camera situation, and you know where I'm going with this. This whole new like streaming thing, like everybody's a streamer. Everybody listen, we have our small community of boxing people, right? In New York, in New York. I I've been to fights in Georgia, I've been to fights in Cali, I've been to fights in Texas, I've been to fights all over the United States, right? There is nowhere like New York. We we have legit, like we have fellow podcasters. Shit, we didn't even talk about it. We were at a fight party that started like we did with Chris Algiri and um Dan Canobio. Yeah, the the what's the the um what's their podcast called? The the I forget the name of their podcast, but they throw fight parties before the fights in New York, and their pod they started out, or he started Dan started out as like a little podcaster, you know, like us, just hobby, you know, whatever. And look what he's doing now, he's like getting deals. But but what I'm saying is this streamer, this like Adrian Broner and um what's his name? Don't start, don't come Dean the Great. I'm not hating, I'm not hating, but now it's like, oh yeah, they could do it, everybody could do it, and and just like us, just like us, we're no different. But now it's just like, oh my god, dude, everybody's a everybody trying to be a streamer. I mean everybody got their $20 microphone and they're out there streaming.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

Yo, people, it's whoever consists of it.

SPEAKER_04 32:40

Clickbait, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, clickbait, man. But like, we don't, I don't think we do shit for clickbait. We're just being natural, you know, like that's the difference. And maybe that's why we're not getting clicks.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 32:50

But whatever, we're having fun.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Yeah, we might have to like put some clickbait shit up as the as a screen.

SPEAKER_04 32:57

Pumo, put your clothes on.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

The thumb tag, the thumb, the thumbnail, thumbnail, yeah. But whatever. Yeah, we gotta try that out.

SPEAKER_04 33:07

Back to the fight. Xander's eyes versus Jerome Boots Ennis. Listen, Xander dared to be great, did what a champion's supposed to do, the old school way. I'll fight anybody, come get my belts. Fought one of the toughest top. They're saying in pound for pound talks, guys. Jerome Boots Ennis. Third round, Boots looked in trouble. Got us everybody on their feet, yo, that was silenced the crowd. Um, we were watching, we're like, oh shit. I'm like, Willie. I look at Willie, I go, he he can't get knocked out by Xander Zayas. Yeah, like and I think I texted our boy Shane, and I was like, Shane, he he can't get knocked out by Xander Zayas, because that that can't happen. Like, that can't happen. Um, not and Xander did his thing and tried to make it happen, but just was came up a little short, and then Boots came on after knocking him down in the first, knocked him down in the fifth, and then a few times in the seventh until he got the stoppage.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Yeah, but now that knockdown and the fifth round, though. I don't know if you agree with me. I gotta ask everybody in the chat, you know, the uh the spa in chat, man. Uh I felt like Xander should have. I gotta rewatch it because I don't know how much time it was exactly. No, I should have taken a knee. He should have taken a knee instead of taking all of them punches.

SPEAKER_04 34:17

But Billy was also screaming because he had a man.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Yeah, I had the A fra I didn't take a fucking knee. No, he should have taken knee. He took so much damage on his bicycle.

SPEAKER_04 34:26

Nah, you're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

Running around and he ended up running around the next uh two hours. And you know what?

SPEAKER_04 34:32

What you said in the beginning where he was like, You his team didn't believe in him. Yeah, if his team believed in him that he had a shot, they would have been yelling at him the same thing you were. Take a knee, take a knee, take a breather. Take a knee, take a breather. They didn't.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

He was already hurt. He took the whole damn eight count.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

And he only needs one other round for what happened in the third.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

It could happen, and he could survive, survive, survive, so he couldn't.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

And it could happen. That that we didn't expect that only need one punch.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

He got he got boots hurt.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

He had something, he had something.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

But yeah, when Chris Algery said it was no chance of him winning, I'm like, no way you say that. You a whole fighter.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

But but I want to say something, and

The Myth Of Never Getting Hit

SPEAKER_04 35:10

and this ties into actually the the fight that happened on the 4th of July with my boy uh Shushu, Bruce Carrington. Yeah, so so I do want to say something, and that third round, everyone right after the fight, the whole boxing world is saying, I don't know, man, boots gets hit a lot, boots gets hit a lot, and I fell for it. I talked about it a little bit when we recorded this the first time, but then it happened again July 4th with Shushu. Um Shushu got hurt a little bit, and we'll talk about it, but he got hurt a little bit in the body shot at the end of the fight, and and he survived. And here's what what boots did too. You know, boots got hurt in the third, yeah, but he survived. Yeah, and there's this narrative, and it's proven now that that keeps going around. And I don't know why it happened because we're the only sport that it happens in. It doesn't happen in UFC. A guy gets hit a lot in UFC but knocks the guy out, he's greatest of all time. Yeah, um, it it doesn't happen in baseball, like you you you pitch great for six innings, but it got you had one bad inning, you're still a great pitcher, you know what I mean? And you won the game, you shut him out, whatever. I'm just making analogies, whatever. You you miss a few shots in the first quarter in basketball, but then you score 30 points and hit the game winner. You still won the fucking game. You're still great, Jalen Brunson. But you know so so. What I'm saying is like in boxing as fans, we gotta be better, dude, because it's a boxing match at the highest level. Yeah, you're gonna fucking get hit, you're gonna get hit in the face. I don't know where this started, and I fell for it a little bit. I I don't know where it started, where like we we can't you you're not gonna get hit in a boxing match. Oh, is Willie, you sparred and beat dudes' asses. Did you get hit? Yeah, I've sparred and got my ass beat. Did I get hit? Yeah, did I get my hits in? Yeah, it you get hit, and in a pro-level boxing match, the best versus the best, no matter what your ranking is, in a 12, 10, 4, 6 round fight. Guess what? You're gonna get hit. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. And they're like, Boots got hit a lot though. He got hit a lot. If Virgil Ortiz hits him like that, yeah, he's probably not gonna fight like that versus Virgil Ortiz. Xander's not known for his power. It's okay to get hit. How did you recover? And what did you do? Terrence Crawford, man. He's been hit, he's been hit a lot. People say he's been down and didn't get called. Terrence Crawford's fucking great. Hall of Famer, pound for pound. You know what I mean? Naya in a way, does he get hit?

SPEAKER_00 37:23

He went down.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

Bam! Jesse Barr. You're gonna get hit. How do you recover? And what do you do after that? So, same thing for Xander Zayas, or not Xander, uh Boots Ennis and and now Bruce Carrington, right? Yeah, he got hit with a monster body shot versus a world class fighter.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

It's a world class.

SPEAKER_04 37:40

There's levels, yeah, but it's a world class fighter.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Like, I really don't get understanding. You're making me really mad now. Like, you're making me mad too, man. You're gonna get hit. Yeah, you're gonna get hit, you know. Now this is real, this is world champion boxing. Like this new thing that everybody is good, like you're gonna get hit. Floyd Mayweather.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

I think Floyd Mayweather like changed it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

And Floyd got hit. Shane almost put him on his ass.

SPEAKER_04 38:06

But then after that, Floyd like made it his point to never get hit. So I don't know what happened. I don't know what, but I just feel like in all the comments, everything you read, oh, but he gets hit a lot, he gets hit a lot. Oh, he almost got knocked out. But did he? Like, yeah, even if you get knocked down, if you get up and beat the hell out of him, that's the beauty of boxing.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Yeah, man. You're gonna get hit. This is world. Mohammed Ali went down.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

This is world class, highest best of the best of the best fighting. Even if one guy's way better than the other, you go to any local gym and bring that guy he beat, the really got the guy that he was way worse than, you know what I mean? And and that guy's the best in the gym. You know what I'm saying? Like, think about when we're in the gym, so yeah, and a pro, a pro who's and it's the media too that keep on saying it.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

He gets hit a lot, he gets hit a lot. Baby act like they not pros, though. Like, come on, man. Y'all gotta stop it. Like, y'all gotta stop.

SPEAKER_04 38:57

This is how do you recover? What do you do after that? And did you lose? Even if you were down, the best example I can give, and and I hate to do it, is Tyson Fury versus Wilder. It's just the most polarizing example. Like that first fight, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:11

It was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 39:12

Uh Fury was down twice, right? Maybe three times, two or three times, whatever it was. Fury won every single round. Besides the ones he was downed in, he single-handedly won every single round, right? So, like again, it was a draw, you could dispute it, whatever, but okay. It doesn't matter. You get hit, you get hit. You do get hit. Who's a better pure boxer, Fury or Wilder? Yeah, you're gonna get hit. This is pro-level by it, just it's very annoying to me.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

It's really getting bad. Oh that's it.

SPEAKER_04 39:44

That's my rant on that, man. I I I just and again, I said it on the last time when the sound didn't record, and now the sound is recording, and then it happened again this weekend because we'll just get right into it now. We're done with the oh well, I guess we gotta touch on. I'm not gonna go into it actually. Sorry, guys. We gotta touch on what's next for Boots. He's two belts now. Um, Virgil Ortiz Jr. is talking shit, and he can talk shit. He's talking about shit. He said, if I hit you like that, you're going down. And he could say that because he's at that level.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Then they they were saying that do you no matter fact? I want to ask you a question.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

Do you think Xander quit?

SPEAKER_04 40:19

I think Xander had enough. I don't want to say he quit. I think he had enough. I think everything you talked about in the beginning, his team wasn't really, you know what I mean? They were probably saying we don't know what he we were there live, so we don't know what they were saying in the corner. Yeah, but I don't think he quit. Oh, and I want to talk about that too, remind me what's said in the corner, but we'll get there in the next part. Um I don't think he quit, no. Uh I think I think what that second time down, he realized I'm getting tired, I don't have much left in the tank. He's way better. I think he lost his confidence, you know. He did quit essentially. He took a knee and quit, but his corner told him to. And and I think his confidence wasn't built up.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

He looked to the side, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

But I don't blame him for it. Listen, this was nobody else, nobody's like, I want boots and this except Tio. Nobody, nobody else with sense is like I want boots and us. I guess you could say, is Crawford calling Boots NS out? Is he is he talking about?

SPEAKER_00 41:18

I feel like uh Crawford just went boots to have his own legacy, yeah, yeah. Just stereotype, yeah. People, people is I don't have nothing to prove. He just let the black man be great. Yeah, that's how you feel, but they want to fight him.

SPEAKER_04 41:30

Well, I mean, it's a big money fight, but I if I was boots, I would just keep doing what you're doing and go fight Canelo. Oh, you can they mean yeah, you can if you could do that, if you're gonna gain weight, go fight Canelo. But that's just me.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Um now that that style wise, style wise, Canelo is gonna be known for losing the black people.

SPEAKER_04 41:49

Maybe, maybe not, though, bro. Because Canelo got a chip.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

Nah, but they oh no, they was training together. He probably played them. Yeah, I'm just saying he probably seen boot, they probably did sparring and shit. Like, nah, I'm not no problem with that.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

The fight to make is Jeron Ennis versus Virgil Ortiz Jr. It was in talks. That is the fight to make it happen. That's the fight to make.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Um, I saw the um Fandora. Uh that that was a like he just denied him. Uh that's what I heard. He said, I'm about to fight my mandatory.

SPEAKER_04 42:17

And well, he wants to keep his belt. So if he doesn't fight his mandatory, he'll lose the belt. So I think that fight could happen.

SPEAKER_00 42:22

Yeah, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 42:23

Right now, right now, yeah. You could technically say he that we gotta see Boots.

SPEAKER_00 42:27

Um, he gotta get in the ring, like keep going. Yeah, because he usually only fight like once or once a year.

SPEAKER_04 42:34

Twice, I think, twice a year. So that's another problem with boxing these days.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

He needs to get back in the ring, but Ortiz, too, man.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

Ortiz, yeah, he's dealing with his problems, and but but listen, I I think styles make fights, and no it's cliche, but they really do. And Boots has seen Ortiz's style.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

Yeah, and nobody's seen Boots style.

SPEAKER_04 42:54

Yeah, like like Ortiz has seen it, but not to that level. You know what I mean? Whereas Stanonis is a poor man's Ortiz, yeah. But but uh it's a close stanyonis isn't a nobody, and Boots made him look like a nobody. That's the point I'm making. Like Stanionis, Stanion's back, yeah. But Stanonis is a problem for anybody, and we haven't seen him back in a high risk fight for that.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

Now that was crazy because he he took a year off, fought boots, lost the boots, and now we know he done vanished.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Yeah, I gotta look actually.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

Where is he at? Where about son uh four corners with the milk, the milk carton.

SPEAKER_04 43:26

Yeah, where you at, bro?

SPEAKER_00 43:27

Where you at? Get pastal.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

Slacking with that milk carton, man. We gotta give him our cart. I like what he did. The milk carton Mondays, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Where's the milk carton?

SPEAKER_04 43:35

They're about to do that to us because we because we've been missing.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Yes, yo, that'd be funny. Um, that'd be funny, son. I just laugh at that.

SPEAKER_04 43:43

Uh, but yo, one thing I did see in the fight, and I'm gonna close with this because it was fucked up. And this is what I meant by when I was like, there's a lot of like wrestling undertones, WWE undertones.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Oh, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_04 43:54

So so the whole fight the whole fight, right? The whole fight, Willie's even saying he's like, damn, and Willie's. Got a Puerto Rican kid, you know, he's he's pro-Puerto Rican. Um, I'm I wish I was Puerto Rican, but the whole fight, they were just doing Puerto Rican music. They should be like, Yeah, where my Philly people at? All right. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? They were like the whole fight, they were like pumping Puerto Rican stuff. Where my where my body was at?

SPEAKER_00 44:29

Um, and then somebody come get this gringo.

SPEAKER_04 44:34

And then, and then right, and then Xander's Eyes comes out, whatever. They come out with their walkouts. Uh Xander came out with some Puerto Rican walkout. We didn't know who.

SPEAKER_00 44:44

Oh my god. That was boy, you need to come out with Daddy Yankee.

SPEAKER_04 44:48

I didn't care, but Ennis came out, did the New York thing. He came out with Jada Kiss. Yeah, that was good. But but then, but then after the fight, right? After the fight, Xander Zayas is a good dude, well-spoken, caring dude. I one fight years ago, I was drunk talking a lot of shit. He confronted me on it. Yeah, and and I I said, I'm sorry, you know, whatever, you're a good I literally did. And I was like, I'm just drunk. He's like, I heard you talking all that shit. Like, confronted me, and it was good. I liked it, and I I became a fan in that moment. I was like, this is a really good dude. Yeah, and you heard how humble he was after the fight? They did him so fucking dirty. He takes a knee, the biggest fight of his life, versus arguably one of the hardest fighters to be in the sport today, right? Arguably, but and what do they do when he lost? Right after, right after he takes the knee. What what sounded, Willie?

SPEAKER_00 45:44

Dung.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

And then what followed?

SPEAKER_00 45:46

The Undertaker's music. Undertaker's music.

SPEAKER_04 45:49

It was the saddest thing I've ever seen in real time. He's walking, I thought it was AI. He's walking across the ring. And they're playing. I'm not lying, am I lying?

SPEAKER_00 45:59

They're playing it at the at all the boots fights.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

I think they're playing Undertaker music as he's walking across the ring.

SPEAKER_00 46:04

I feel like I heard that in the fight before.

SPEAKER_04 46:06

I think he came out once to it. I don't think I've never seen a dude with his head down, championship fight, and they're playing. I felt like after the last come on, bro.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

Yo, nah, the Undertaker music was great.

SPEAKER_03 46:23

He's a good dude.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

Nah, that's that's fucked up. I feel like that's a thing.

SPEAKER_04 46:28

That was I don't know, man. That was fucked up, bro. That was fucked up. Top rank, but that's top rank needs to get back. Top rank needs to get back.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Nah, they was playing Puerto Rican music all night. Like it was like a Puerto Rican show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:42

But I will say this, man, and and it's kind of like the the Irish fan base shows out. Yo, the Puerto Rican fan base in New York.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:50

Probably Florida too. I see a lot of Florida.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

But big boxing fans.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

Yeah, they show out for theirs, man. And good for them. And you know what? So does the I will say the black community. Yeah. They come out for theirs too.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

Yeah, they came to Philly. They came from Philly. They was wild. And shout out to the um Philly um people we met down there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:07

So they came out too. But um, yeah, it was it was good. We got out of there though, because last boots fight I went to versus Dan Jonas in Atlantic City.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

Um fights and shit.

SPEAKER_04 47:17

We had to get the fuck out of there. I would I would like I feel I just get weird. Like in New York, I know New York's dangerous or whatever, but you know how to navigate your state. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I don't, I know I talk a lot of shit. You do, we all do, whatever, but like I can navigate, like, oh, this isn't going well. I gotta ease up, you know? You know your place. When I'm in another state with other statesmen, and I'm being me. I'm like, oh, this, I don't know. What how is this gonna I don't know how to read these people?

SPEAKER_00 47:43

Because your personality would throw some people off.

SPEAKER_04 47:46

Yeah, yeah. Like it's weird, right? And I'm just having fun. I don't mean any harm or whatever, but um, it could go south real quick, yeah. And sometimes it does. But in Philly, it it was cool because it's east coast still, I feel like. Yeah, but yeah, whatever. Georgia didn't know what to do with me, though. They were like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 48:03

That's a southern hope. They be mad.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

Nah, nah. I was I'm neutral in other states. I'm just saying, like, you know, we were just passionate fans, but again, that was messed up. But that's enough. That's enough about Zia's and boots. We have another whole card to cover that we missed. That's why this is a little longer show. Bear with us. We're

Empire Nutrition Shout Out

SPEAKER_04 48:20

gonna try and bang this one out in 20 minutes. We don't want to go close to two hours, some technical difficulties. Real quick, though, before we get started on the next half, I have to give a big shout out to my guys at Empire Nutrition. Willie and I have been slacking on our meals, but um, they just opened up a place in Long Beach, New York, Long Island on Long Beach. Everyone from the city goes there to party in the summer. Everybody's at the beaches there. I was just there this weekend, it's a good spot. But if you're hungover, wake up and stop by Long Beach, New York's Empire Nutrition. Get yourself an asaí bowl, get yourself some fucking vitamins. Your hair's thinning, your fat. Stop it, stop it. Get your vitamins in. Yeah, talk to them about peptides. I think they know a guy, they might know a guy for real, for real. Stop it, Empire Nutrition. They just opened a spot in Long Beach, they're over all over Long Island. Um, they've also they also helped Gerrell Miller lose weight, so you know it works. You know it works. Um, but yeah, let's get into the Ohio 4th of July fireworks that were not

Ohio Card And Broadcast Upgrade

SPEAKER_04 49:20

there.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

Oh, yeah, but now but I'm it should have been there because yo, shout out to this new the zone and TNT combination. They uh did their thing though. That was yo, they had it on TNT. Yes, it was on TNT, it was on the zone for free.

SPEAKER_04 49:41

That's for free ski.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

That's and if it's for free, it's for me. Yeah, that's good. Shout out to them for the combination.

SPEAKER_04 49:47

Did your dad watch it? I know he was hype.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Yes, he was watching it for the combination. He I fell asleep.

SPEAKER_04 49:53

Why are you talking weird?

SPEAKER_00 49:54

No, I'm just kidding. I fell, I fell asleep. I woke up in the morning, he's like, You didn't even see the fight. It's like he said, They cheated that boy, and whatever the case is, man. Albert Bell, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:05

Yeah, they was like, So we've we've like like Willie's dad always liked boxing, but since we started this, yeah, he we got him in it, man. We got him into it.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

He's really be watching boxing real quick though.

SPEAKER_04 50:14

Tell so Willie's dad, you know, he had some medical conditions and hardworking dude, been through a lot. He he lost both his legs, but but he used to be a pro golfer. I just found not pro, but he used to be a nasty golfer. I just found tell him what his license plate used to be.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

It was his license plate was Tiger Hood, y'all. Like legit, right?

SPEAKER_04 50:31

It said Tiger Hood.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

And they had it in a movie, right? They had it in a movie, but he he had it, he said he had it before that. So I don't know. He took the name. I don't know, Tiger Hood, y'all.

SPEAKER_04 50:43

Yeah, I thought I heard that. Yo, I love his dad, I love his dad. Shout out to Willie's dad, he's funny, he's awesome, talks mad shit. Good guy, good guy.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

He's a clown.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

But let's get in, let's get into it. So, um, 4th of July, man. I like what they did. I almost went. If if I didn't come back from Hawaii, I would have been there. Yeah, uh, but because I spent a lot of money in fucking Hawaii, I didn't have the money for it. But uh Willie,

Scooter Davis Learns The Hard Way

SPEAKER_04 51:05

talk, talk about your guy. I know you're you're high on him, Scooter Davis, and and what you were about to say on the list.

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Oh, yeah, scooter Davis.

SPEAKER_04 51:11

Yeah, um, so he opened the main card, I think.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

I opened up uh the main card uh in Cleveland. Um it was it was crazy because I'm over here telling people how good he is. I'm like, yo, yeah, I gotta watch this fight, telling my uncle because he was big, he's a big fighting fan, right? But he like, man, these guys suck nowadays. You old head shit. Like, yo, they got these guys these days suck. They don't fight. They suck. I'm not watching this shit.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

I'm not watching this shit. My grandpa's like, well, yeah, yeah, watching baseball. Yeah, he's fucking sucked now. Put the numbers on the put the let put their names on their jerseys. I don't know what that number is, like just old head shit.

SPEAKER_00 51:47

Old head shit, man. He's so he's like, um, I'm like, yo, scoop this guy right here. He's nice. He could up and coming. You don't want to watch the up and coming, yeah, whatever the case is. But I'm disappointed him. Not not that the fight didn't go as expected. Like, I thought I thought he lost, man.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

I thought he lost that.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

Yeah, I knew I knew they would give it to him. You making all these Instagram posts, it look fight. He's doing the movement, bouncing back and forth, like footwork crazy. Flat footed the whole fucking fight. I'm like, bro, this is crazy. You flat foot, and he just sitting down on punches, pop shoting, like you fucking Canelo. Canelo do that one, two punches. Like, you gotta put some combination together. Use your feet work, use the movement, uh sidestep, something. He didn't do none of that, just walk forward. I think he might be too jacked.

SPEAKER_04 52:39

Yeah, he's lifting too much weights, man. Lifting he looked very you could tell he had it, but he was a little methodical, and I think that's the the the muscles, man.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Like, I don't know what it was, it was bad. It could be the opponent, and the dude was he was he was seasoned and he was pretty good. He came to win, called him out, called him out. He came to win, man. He was good. Um, that was a good test for him.

SPEAKER_04 53:01

Uh be better from here.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

I yeah, he's gonna be way, he's gonna be way better.

SPEAKER_04 53:05

This happens in in young fight fighters' career. Yeah, it's um yeah, he didn't get hurt enough, and so it's just I like something I saw in the lead up though, or maybe the announcers talked about it, but I think Sergio Mora might have said it that in the fighter meeting, he's like, Listen, I'm flashy, I dress like this, I dance, whatever. He's like, I'm not cocky, I'm I'm very, I'm very humble. He's like, I work out. I like that. I like that hearing that a young kid because a lot of times these young kids come in cocky, flashy assholes, you know, and he's not, he's not that. So that was good to hear from him. But again, fight-wise, uh watched it, yeah. I watched it.

SPEAKER_00 53:39

Uh, what you think?

SPEAKER_04 53:42

Uh listen, he's gotta learn from this one. So he's gotta learn from I thought he I thought he did lose it. Uh points wise. I I understand, you know, he's gotta know the body more. Yeah, he's way bigger, he's gotta impose his his size, you know what I mean? Like he's way bigger than this guy. Yeah, he was back him up. He let this guy dictate too much. You you can't you can't come in there like deep.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

I mean, he was he was just but um, he was just walking him down the whole time and not he's not setting up. But when you walk him down and don't throw, not not setting him up, pop shot in shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:14

And you got you and after like the first two rounds, like all right, I got a tough one in front of me. Adjust, adjust.

SPEAKER_00 54:20

I uh damn, what's the guy's name? Will he who he fought again? Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

I forgot the last name. That's why you gotta take notes, Willie.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

Yeah, I know. I yeah, but he yeah, he uh he was he was good, man. Uh he he looked he for somebody with four losses, man. Losses don't mean nothing. No, man, no. This guy was tough. I always say that.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

What I always say, your opposition matters, yeah. It don't matter.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

He was a seasoned guy and he can box. This he can box. Take a shot too. He was half step back, and then he would he would exit. Like we always taught that when you would you exiting attack right after when you turn him, you turn him and attack. He was doing that shit.

SPEAKER_04 55:03

I'm like he had it, he had him looking confused at the time.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

Yeah, he was like, Yo, I wasn't expecting him. He didn't expect that. He wasn't expecting that. He had Scooter like oh, surprise, and it was a tough fight, man. I just want to see Scooter like uh yo, use your foot. I want to see him what he'd been posting. I want to see it in the fight. That's the big part. Like, you got the foot movement. I want to see it.

SPEAKER_04 55:23

It's still early, it could have been an off night, but they were speaking on this guy.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

Yeah, but he would just sit, he was flat footed, he was they were speaking like he's God, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:31

Um, but this happens. This happens.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

Um everybody thought he was gonna get a stoppage, like everybody on the panel. Yeah, shout out to you know, they got Sean

Crawford On The Mic Debate

SPEAKER_00 55:40

Porter, they had uh Terrence Crawford.

SPEAKER_04 55:42

I want to say something about that real quick. Now, before obviously we got into the the first fight, but and this is no disrespect. And I how do I even I don't know how to word this like I gotta word this in a way. I don't even know. I wrote it down somewhere, but like um Terrence Crawford on the mic, right? Cool, big name, great name, legend, American fucking hero. Did the what we thought was impossible and and shut out Canelo for undisputed two-way classes up, right? Great boxer, seen him live twice. Awesome. We met him, took a minute, but cool dude, right? Yeah, he's not uh a speaker, he's not well spoken. Oh it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

No, no, I don't know. You know what it is? He can't say that yet.

SPEAKER_04 56:32

He but he needed his first point. Okay, okay, I'll take that. He's nervous. I don't know if he Terrence Crawford's never nervous.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

Yes, he he said he was nervous. Yeah, did he? Yeah, he said. Okay, okay. The first the first he started thinking at first.

SPEAKER_04 56:43

You could tell he's like he's not articulating, he's uh he's not articulating what's when we first started like crazy.

SPEAKER_00 56:50

Yeah, he was this first time doing it.

SPEAKER_04 56:52

He was but you feel what I'm saying though, yeah. Yeah, he you could feel him thinking as he's talking, you know.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

Yeah, he didn't know how to uh he let it flow articulate his uh he he had the right points, and I'll get into that.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

He had the right points, and it I knew as a boxing fan what he was saying, yeah. But you're bringing eyes when you're a name like Terrence Crawford, yeah. And I just wanted to be, but I don't know, it's pretty much he said he was nervous, he said it literally, he said it himself. You know, he's a little I did like the banter though, the fighter banter. Yeah, no, it's cool, but um Tim Bradley, yeah. Uh Tim Bradley too, he he's gotten better. So I guess you're right. I I stand corrected. You're right, you're right. I'm just being a hater. I'm just watching, I'm like, spit it the fuck out.

unknown 57:32

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 57:32

Yeah, he was speaking ass slow, like he was punch drunk there. No, he he was really just nervous.

SPEAKER_04 57:38

And again, this I don't I don't mean this as disrespect to Crawford. He's he's fucking amazing. I have his fucking I bought I only buy your autograph if I think you're good, and then I got it. So um, but I was just watching, I'm like, uh, okay, yeah, and it is it is tough, man. It is tough. They're fighters, you know.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

Yeah, it's tough.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

But you know who's good? You know who's really good? Who ex-fighter-wise? Paulie Malinaji, yeah, Paulie, Chris Algieri, Chris Algieri, Chris Algieri's good.

SPEAKER_00 58:04

Sergio is right.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

Sergio Mora got really good. I don't agree with all his takes, but he's very good.

SPEAKER_01 58:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

So it's time, maybe time will tell you. Yeah, and you know what? Tim Bradley, Tim Bradley got better at articulating, yeah. And who are we? Who the fuck are we? Yeah, or who the fuck am I?

SPEAKER_00 58:18

I just need he just needed to get comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 58:20

But you thought it too.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

You're like, yeah, he was taking mad long to speak. I'm like, I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_04 58:25

Stop thinking, let it flow, man.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

Yeah, again, though but he knows what he's talking about, yeah, yeah. But it's just like genius, boxing genius, yeah, exactly. He was just uh slow with it, he was real slow, real slow. But back to him. He just gotta get comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 58:38

They they live on TV, yeah, and and and they're they're not like us. We can say whatever the fuck we want.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Yeah, they have to watch what he says, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:46

So um, I stand corrected.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

Just give him, yeah, give him some some time, man. Give him some time.

SPEAKER_04 58:51

Hopefully, he can't say that yet that's a good guy on the mic. I hope.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

Yeah, I hope.

SPEAKER_04 58:54

But he was never known for like his speech, speaking, yeah, his speaking. So whatever. Um I said that nicely, right? It wasn't too bad.

SPEAKER_00 59:02

Yeah, you I saved you.

SPEAKER_04 59:05

I but I you know what I'm saying, though.

SPEAKER_00 59:07

I wasn't trying to honest damn what you say, but I'm not trying to be like a Crawford hater.

SPEAKER_04 59:10

I'm not, I'm really not.

SPEAKER_00 59:15

Yeah, but he's just gonna give him some time. Okay, honest damn with that.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

And Errol Spence is another one. He talks sometimes.

Shushu Carrington Gets Critiqued

SPEAKER_04 59:20

I'm like, yo, what the fuck are you saying?

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Yeah, he don't need to be on the mic.

SPEAKER_04 59:23

But all right, anyway. Um, the next fight, my guy who is well spoken, yeah, well spoken.

SPEAKER_00 59:29

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:30

Shushu Carrington, fourth of Shu live, fireworks, baby. Gonna knock him out. Said he's gonna knock him out, didn't happen. But um it's all right. Uh this guy was tough, bro. Yeah, but like he was tough. I don't know. It felt like we were, and this is what Crawford said, like Shushu didn't didn't turn it up a notch. We know he can, yeah. He just didn't turn it up a notch, and I feel like we're just I'm waiting and waiting. I'm not gonna lie, bro. Big Frank fell asleep. Oh, and like, you know, we're drinking all day at the pool and stuff, and like the sun drains you out. And I'm like, oh no, stay awake, Shushu's gonna get his ass. And at points, I'm like, yeah, here we go. And then he just didn't get to that next stop, and and that's okay because he won every fucking round. Yeah, there was one round he lost, one fucking round he lost, right? That body shot round where he was hurt, and and people are cooking Shushu in the in the in the comments, and that's what got me into my my take before. Yeah, it's okay. He recovered. What happened in the 12th?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:35

Stick and move, stick and move. I'm boxing now. I regained a little bit. I'm boxing, and I like what Shushu said after. He said, Yeah, it's boxing. He caught me with a body shot. Nobody recovers from a body shot. And he's right, he's right. Like, yeah, he didn't he didn't look Shushu didn't look bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:50

No, I just wanted to see him. And that's another thing, too. They like the way he he was he was taking half steps back. That's not running. The old one of the old heads that was watching a fight with me, he was like, Yo, he's he's doing too much running. He's half stepping back, he's trying to counter, he's half stepping back and trying to keep him in range, and he was just boxing him the whole time. That's boxing. I'm like, bro, I will say this, yo, what do you think?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:14

I will say this though, and and I mean this. Um, K Karoma is his his trainer, yeah, and that's kind of K Koroma's style. It's a little, I don't want to say it's an amateur style because he has world champions, but that half step back score, score, score, that's his style. Where in this particular fight, I think if Shushu did stay in and let them hands go, Sushu has power in both hands. Yeah, we've seen it um live. I I think he could have got him out of there, but because Kuroma even he's saying it to him, you know what I mean? I I I think he that might be why that was happening. Um, but again, he he won the fight regardless. Yeah, I'm not taking anything away from him. I'm actually more pissed off at the fan base. Uh oh, in a way hits him like that, it's over, but he's not gonna fight in a way like that, you know what I mean? And and you may be right, you're right. In a way hits anybody, in a way hits heavyweights like he hits people there. It's over, you know what I'm saying? But I don't think he's gonna fight him like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:12

Um it's just like you're trying to explain the casuals. Yeah, it's like what boxing is. It's like, bro, you see him boxing, he's boxing. That's real boxing.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:23

You recovered. You could argue the one thing you could argue is the knockdown. That some say that was a knockdown, and I agree, I think it was, but it was behind the head. You could say it was behind the head, but he did he did go under, you know what I mean? Like he wasn't aiming, he wasn't targeting behind his head. So you could argue and say he got that knockdown, right? Yeah, so that dude gets that knockdown, and then that dude wins that that 11th round, and maybe even another round in a 12-round fight. Still loses the fight. So, so so like you know what I mean? He he lost the first six, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

Yeah, I mean, it was a tough fight. Uh, it was it was hard to watch. Uh it was hard to watch at times, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:06

It was a shutout, it was boring shutout.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

It was it was it wasn't a boring shutout, it was like it was a lot of a lot of holding and stuff. You were waiting for Shushu to go up, yeah. Exactly. We was waiting to see that shoe York you that shoo shoe show. You know what? That's what we was waiting for, literally. But who he won? Yeah, we can't say we can't really say nothing, but we was really looking for the shushu show. Yeah, I had it in my bet, had it my parlay. Literally was waiting for it, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:34

But he won. So I don't want to. I'm not I'm saying, of course I want knockouts, we all do, yeah. But I can't hate a guy for a guy that wanted Shushu, called him out from day one, tough guy. Saw him fight um the African dude that Shushu didn't look good against. He beat that. And then he beat the African dude, called Shushu out. I think that's a great story. Does he still think he could beat Shushu? No, he got his ass kicked. So cut it out. Uh and the fans cut it out. Now, going forward, do you do I think Carrington needs to bring someone else in? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:06

You think so?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:06

Yeah, I think so. Just just more dog, you know? K Karoma, every fighter he he trains has less dog in them. And like they're more scoring, they're more scoring oriented, which is good, which is great. But you need a fighter with like you, and not that Shushu doesn't have dog, the way he's training is like that less dog mentality. You know what I mean? Uh Michela Meyer used to train with K Karoma, right? What happened after they left? They split it ways. She got that dog in her, she's digging deep. She's she's you know what I mean? She's slanging and banging.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:37

You might be on to something.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:38

She's not in my DMs. She's uh but nah. So so the point I'm making, I'm not taking anything away from Shushu or K Karoma. I'm just saying that stuff, the style of the way he trains sometimes brings someone in. Keep K there, of course. You won a championship with him. He's not doing anything, he's doing something, right? Just just bring another guy in. Yeah. Um, but that that's all. That's all. And and again, Bruce pitched a shutout. I don't give a fuck what people say. He that body shot, I'm glad he got through that. I'm glad he felt that. Yeah, I'm glad he felt that. I'm glad it hurt him, and I'm glad he got through it. Yeah, because the next round he he shook it off to the best he could and won. Now, if that happened earlier, it may be a different story, but it didn't happen earlier. So, so it wasn't a different story. He's the guy who won.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:21

He's showing adversity twice in two fights in a row. Yeah, two fights in a row. This is where the shit shit is getting real, man. He's a fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:28

When you got a belt, everybody wants it. Everybody wants it. Everybody's gonna fight they're gonna be able to get the big thing. The champions wouldn't fight him, and now he's he's shown. Oh, yeah. I'm maybe he can get a unified. He says he wants to. Oh, we're going to that one. I don't care if it's in Vegas, I don't care where it is, we're going to that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:45

Well, um uh I was about to say, oh, because we have forgot about

Tiger Johnson And Style Matchups

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

Tiger Johnson.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:50

So yeah, yeah. Tiger Johnson did he won. Same thing, same shit. One dimensional one. Yeah, um, that was the fight before. We could touch on it quick. I mean, what what'd you think? It's one twos. Yeah. I thought I bet him to get it. I live bet 150 and then I cashed out in the eighth for 130. 150 to win like 500. Uh Tiger KO T K O.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:14

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:15

He was with versus Timu Xander Zayas. He won.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:20

It is what it is, right? Uh, we didn't have to really talk about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:23

Nah, he won. He won. Fair and square.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Um, but he don't want no parts of Devin Haney.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

You think? I don't, I don't want that fight.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:30

You don't want that fight?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:31

It's a fucking snooze fest. I want him, I want the teams. I want a five-on-five tag team match. That's what I want. We've seen him. We've seen him get busy. We saw them get busy at MSG.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:41

Somebody get jumped already.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:42

I want a five on five tag team match.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:44

Give him a fair one. Shoot him a fair one.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:46

Tiger Johnson's team versus Devin Haney's team. Five on five. Now that's action. That's action. Haney. Haney versus Tiger. Nah, nah. Snooze fest. Snooze fest. Snooze fest. Five on five?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:01

It's a story behind it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:02

All the streamers.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

There's a story behind it, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:05

They're gonna be beefing at the press conference.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:08

Yeah, and that's gonna be the most excitement. They're both one-two guys. It's gonna be a one-two fest. Seriously. They better both come out to like that song where they're like fuck 12 because it's gonna be a one-two fest.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:25

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:26

Swear to god, bro. Um, but yeah, that's it. And again, nothing against Tiger Johnson. He's Olympic pedigree. Very good, very big, strong. I like him, love him. I have his shirt, so I'm not hating on the guy. I just style-wise, that fight, style-wise, no, not for me, dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:41

Not for you, not for me, dog. Not one you ain't gonna pay for it. Five on five? I'll go to the press conference. I'll apply for a press pass.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:48

That's that press conference is gonna be crazy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:51

People are gonna be I'm wearing, I'm I'm wearing a helmet and a vest.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:54

They're gonna be fighting at the before the fight.

unknown 1:07:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:58

What we're talking about is there was a uh uh, you know, someone sucker punched uh team Haney sucker punched Tiger Johnson. Tiger Johnson and team retaliated. That's all we're gonna say about that. Um and yeah, whatever. This particular fight, it's news fest. Main event, main event, the Ohio hero. Hero? He's he's Ohio's boy right now, man. He's Ohio.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:25

Cleveland, this is for you! That ass.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:28

Uh, yeah, man. Only

Abdullah Mason Versus Albert Bell Chaos

SPEAKER_04 1:08:30

thing they were missing was LeBron James, he's a free agent. That's all they were missing. Um, that's crazy. This is the last last take of the show. We're gonna wrap it up quick. We're an hour in, plus the other one with for the technical difficulty. We are talking about Abdullah Mason versus Albert Bell. Last minute replacement, Albert Bell. Hey man, familiar friends, yeah. Friends sparred a bunch, sparred a bunch both same religion, shouted the religion out. Um, and what I mean by that, what I mean by that is like that it's a close community, yeah. So, you know, they're close, they know each other.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:02

They didn't they didn't let um they didn't make him cut his beard, yeah. Like boots, yes. I like that though.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:08

Like, like yo, every angle you can get, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:11

Like so, yeah, I said to cut the yeah, yo, yo, every angle.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

I'm like, yo, what? No, no, cut it again. That's not long enough. That's too too long. I'm gonna fucking yo, wait, what? You got rubber bands in your hair? Nah, they could flick out and hit me in the eye. Cut take them out. Yo, mind games, baby. But they didn't listen, Abdullah Mason versus Albert Bell. Albert Bell, tall, crazy long reach, seasoned vet, right? Yeah, been in there with everybody. Ohio, Ohio grit. We know Ohio Kabox. They're one of those states that we've talked about in the past, is not on a on a coast, but those mid some of those real famous people came out. Ohio Kabox. Ohio knows boxing. They say Ohio runs boxing, Ohio knows boxing.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:52

Yeah, they got Adrian Brona, they got uh Sean Put.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:56

But look, look, look, things got a little tough for the Golden Child. Oh, yeah, things got a little tough.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:00

I mean, yo, Ohio didn't know what to do.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:03

Ohio was scared.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:04

It's been a little bit tough for him. Yeah, it's been a little tough.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:07

This was his first defense, so we gotta give him nah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:09

It's been a little tough for him, though. We we seen him get dropped and all that. He's been the adversity, been hit him. But the way he finished that fight was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:19

That 12th.

Live Scoring And Judge Accountability

SPEAKER_00 1:10:20

And he's probably gonna talk about the corner shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:23

But but you know what, you know what I'm gonna talk about in the corner?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:25

Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:26

It it's it actually goes to what the broadcast. The the biggest gripe I had with the broadcast was the live scoring controversy that they wouldn't shut the fuck up about.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:34

Yeah, what the fuck is they talking about?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:37

So it's the fight before only for shoeshu fight was the the fight before they got they they put it in the contract or whatever it got voted in. I don't know how it works. They talked about live scoring. They're trying different things. I like that. Yeah, you know what I want when you're in the crowd, mic up the corner. I want to hear what the corner's saying. Ah, actually, yeah, you know what? I'm wrong, because then the other corner will hear it. Yeah, so I'm wrong. No, keep it the way it is. Fuck it. Because that live scoring shit, that live scoring shit, bro. Main main like the middle of the fight, the live score is they're if they're fighting. Four judges to one, whatever the fuck they said, in the middle of them fighting, in the middle of the round. That was stupid. Fuck live scoring. Nah, and and I met, I I had dinner or I had lunch with a ref and a judge, New York State judge, and I asked him once, I was like, yo, I want them to put the scoring on the scene, on the screen, like the TV screen. Like every other sport has scoring. Why is that? And I never thought of this, and he made sense about it. He's like, Yeah, but but that that means if another judge sees that or gets wind of that, right? Or a fan yells it, they could be like, Oh no, they have him down. Shit, I gotta fudge my numbers. So it takes away it, it takes away the the the um I don't know what the word is I'm looking for. Integrity, yeah, integrity. Damn, Willie, damn, bro. You went to college.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:55

Integrity.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:56

Integrity, yo, for real, for real. For real, though. It takes, but it's true, it takes away, like, you know what I mean? Because like, say mean me, you, and someone else is a judge, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:05

Yeah, anyway, yeah. Like, I'm on dumbass or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:12

I didn't. That's why I said I'm shouting you out, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:15

Oh shit. Uh yeah, but yeah, I don't know. I understand it, but then like, cause I heard when I um I heard when um gave uh Tim gave their opinion. Uh Tim and uh Crawl. Sergio and Tim and um Sergio kept bringing it up. Sergio kept bringing it up. And and at one point I felt both of them like what I understand like why they needed it.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:40

That's not what's broken by.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:41

But they was talking, yeah. They was just talking about how yo, if they it would probably make the person that's down fight better, and then yeah, or it'll make the other person running person, yeah, run away. Well he'll win it. That's gonna, but they will understand that if they run away like that and they know they up, it's gonna be it's gonna look bad on them. Like, yo, you uh you I don't know, it's not no.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:03

I I think just that's not what's wrong with it. I think hold the judges accountable, hold the refs accountable. Yeah, I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. I should I should have to inquire, but we've seen judges score something so out of whack and then be on the next card.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:16

Yeah, nah, that's what they need is suspension.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:18

Hold them, can hold them accountable.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:21

Like if they don't have their card, they they score as not as close to none of the judges.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:26

If you weigh off, yeah, you should be going study it, you should go to go legal, go the legal route, and then like no, and the only way to do that is hurt their pockets. That's the way the world works. Yeah, they should take fine them, fine them, fine them for that. Fine, you don't got to suspend them.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:39

They score being so wild.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:41

Thousand bucks.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:41

I know they're not everybody not gonna see eye to eye because you don't know what judge I don't care, I don't care how rich you are, you don't want to lose a thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:49

Yeah, you don't want to lose a thousand dollars, thousand bucks. You fucked up that scarcole scorecard so bad. We looked at it, we reviewed it with you, and you're a dumbass lawyer. Thousand bucks. Give us a thousand bucks. It's that's how you fix it. You gotta have you there, has to be repercussions.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:04

That's wild.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:05

You give a man too much power, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:07

But like, yeah, but that's another point, good point that all the the all the other sports have a live score.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:13

But boxing's different, dude. There's too much room for UFC doesn't have live scores.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:17

Even like the amateurs, like the uh the the um the tournament does does UFC have live scoring?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:23

Yeah, but amateur scoring is so different. You can get knocked down in amateur scoring and still win. So it's different.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:29

Win the round still.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:30

That's why it's action-packed, quick, two-minute rounds. Um, but whatever. Back to the fight itself. That was just my little interlude. Um, or interlude. How the hell do we know what the hell because because it was um it was on this card, it was brought up on this card.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:43

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:44

So uh whatever. Abdullah Mason. All right, what is he? One 147 is he? What's Abdullah? 140. 135. 135? Abdullah Mason, 135. Oh, I have it here actually, I think. Uh yeah, current lightweight.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:00

Um that stoppage, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:02

Stoppage was bad. Stoppage was bad. Horrible, horrible stoppage.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:06

Horrible, horrible. You can't lie, you cannot let him not finish that fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:10

That was weird, very weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:11

Bad so bad, so bad. It made it seem like the fix was in, and then he was calm, he was calm, he didn't want to talk to the rep, but he was once he got the knockdown, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:19

The fight was close enough, in my opinion, where Abdullah was gonna win, and then clearly but that way Abdullah came out firing.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:26

That was crazy. This is what I'm down.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:29

I think forget about that scoring shit. No, no, never mind. Um, never mind. It was it was a bad take. Uh damn, you guys speaking of bad takes, though. So the current okay, Abdullah Mason comes out first six rounds. All everyone could say, maybe one you give to Abdullah if you're lucky. Albert Bell won the first six. Everybody starts shaking, everybody's like, Oh shit. Abdullah adjusted what Terrence Crawford said. Abdullah adjusted, that was showed showed that I am a champion, I can adjust, and I'm young, and here I am. So he's gonna be a problem, but you you know, you're gonna take these risks, take these risks adjusted and straight body work, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:10

I never seen him do body shots like that. He was just look head down, everything, just that was crazy. He really switched up his whole grain plan and it worked.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:20

He did the body work, and then when you talk when Bell was talking after the fight, he's like, Yeah, nah, I slowed down because he hit me in the nose and I couldn't breathe. Yeah, that's power, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:30

And guess what? Abdullah got hit. Abdullah Mason got hit. You get hit in boxing, but if you win, who gives a fuck? You're gonna get hit.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:41

Cut it out. Anyway, I'm not gonna go back on that again. Um, let's talk about

Lightweight Belts And Next Fights

SPEAKER_04 1:16:45

the current lightweight title picture, though. Someone just got elevated, someone you know dearly. Um, he is now the WBA champion.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:54

Kid Austin's WBA.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:56

No, no, not Kid Austin. Somebody who hasn't fought in a long time, it's been in the news for a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:02

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:03

Who you like, who you like a lot. You know who it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:07

I thought he got his shit stripped.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:09

No, he's been elevated to WBA champion.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:13

Tank?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:14

Tank is the WBA champion.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:16

Wait, which one he had then? The WBA?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:18

Yeah, the whatever he had the black belt.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

Which one is that? Yeah. That one.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:23

That's the no, he might have got stripped that he he was elevated to to WBA stripped without fighting, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:30

Nah, he got stripped a belt and then uh elevated.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:34

Maybe I'm wrong. I'll I'm looking it up right now. No, hopefully I'm wrong, but I I don't think I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:38

What the hell do you get this news from? Fucking uh Timu fucking T Mu bo boxing sports.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:47

Oh, maybe I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:48

Yeah, well, you get this from Timu Boxing Sports.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:50

He's the champion in recess, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:52

Champion in recess, yeah. Of the belt he already had. Yeah, but the he's not elevated for nine. That's a demo, that's demo. He's not demoted.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:04

Maybe I'm wrong. I'm drunk.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:05

These cut waters, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:06

You're wild. You need to stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:09

I had two. Don't have more than two.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:14

And you had two.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:16

I need one more, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:17

You don't need no more. Them cut waters, you need one. That's it. You know, Mick.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:22

I need another one.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:23

That's crazy. Yeah, you're bugging.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:25

I think no. I read somewhere he got elevated. I read somewhere he got elevated, and we were going off in the comments. I read somewhere he got elevated.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:33

He didn't get elevated, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:34

Who you got all right? Fuck it. Okay, say I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Whatever. Abdullah Mason or Tink.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:41

I'm wrong with Tink all the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

I think so too, right now. Um, here's one though.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:47

He got to be uh Abdula had to be real disciplined because uh Raymond Raymond Mirtala. He's he's not that I think I think um Bush McColly can be him right now. Abdullah Mason can beat Mirtala?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:00

Yeah, let's make it happen. Both with top rank.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:02

They should make that happen. I think he should go get that belt. Yeah, yeah, he's the weakest out of all of them.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:08

You think so? Yeah, he's got a fight.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:10

Uh he's not that good, bro. He just beat the shit out of Andy Cruz, bro. Yeah, he well, that was a tough fight.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:19

He won almost every round, bro. Nah, he didn't win almost every round. It went the distance, but he showed he's just more he's he got the him and Andy was as similar, but he's more powerful. So Andy couldn't really this guy Robson can say sal, bro. Apparently, that's my guy right here.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:37

He's got another belt shot. Yeah, yo, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:40

This dude has more belt shots.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:43

Am I reading this right?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:44

Yo, he cool, son. In Las Vegas, yeah, cool, and he's a hard fight for anybody because he moves, man. He's awkward.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:51

Bro, what what does he have on top rank? At Brazil, yo, someone in top rank touched his wiener because because this dude is in belt, he's had more belt shots than anyone I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:03

He fights everybody, they love him. He fights everywhere, yeah. But like he's still at 130.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:08

Oh, he's uh it's not it's for one um whatever Abdullah is.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:12

He's at 135?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:13

Yeah, it's 135.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:14

He finally moved up, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

What the fuck? He's a big another belt shot.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:18

He's a big one at 35, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:22

Who Raymond Muratala? No, the other Robson? Bro, get what he touched your PB2. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:28

I told remember I told him he he's gonna beat uh Oshaki Fawcett.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

He didn't, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:34

He probably didn't, but he didn't. He did he did not. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, yo, yo, he's gonna win this fight. Whatever. He was watching it. I'm like stay on track.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:41

We've been talking too long.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:43

But you yeah, but you said um whatchamacallit?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:45

Yeah, I think Ray is not, he he's not he's not that WBA the WBA he's a tough fight for the WBA is posting Javante Davis as their champion. He's a he's a tough fight for anybody, but who got the WBC now that um WBC interim is Jadir Herrera.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:02

Who got the belt? Because uh stripped it.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:04

The vacant nobody has it. The interim is Jadir Herrera. I've seen him fight, but I don't know much about him. Um I'm not gonna go off on something I don't I don't know, but I think I think Miratala vs. Abdullah, that's a good fight, and it's easy to make.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:22

I think that's a good fight.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:24

Good fight and easy to make.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:25

Abdullah, oh, he gotta be careful though.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:28

He's learning, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:29

He gotta be careful.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:30

Yo, the the goal is to unify. You can't keep fighting people.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:33

The goal is to unify like Ray is good though. He's good. He's gonna be a tough fight. I want to see how good he is. I don't know how good, I don't think he's that good. Who?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:43

Ray, you just said Ray is good.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:45

He's good, but I don't know if he how is he that good. I think what do you mean? Because he you said he'd beat Andy Cruz, but I don't think but Andy Cruz is a slick boxer, yeah. He's a slick boxer, but no power. We talking about power, then that's a good fight, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:01

That's a good fight. That's what I'm saying. That's right now, right now, that's the fight to make unification, IBF, WBO. There's not a lot of fights in the board, and then after July, it kind of dies down.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:12

I want to see him and Kid Austin, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:13

Yeah, Kid Austin's on, but he's he's a weirdo. Shakur was supposed to fight at 135. I think that would be good. Um, yeah, I don't know. But that's it. He really ducked Shakur, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:26

Yeah, it's crazy. Yep. And then they him and his dad keep on calling out Tank.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:32

Tank's gonna fight somebody.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

I think it's it's gonna be still

Teofimo Versus Rolly Vegas Plans

SPEAKER_00 1:22:35

about that. He's still running from the police.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:38

We're an hour and 15 in. Let's let's talk about that real quick. Real quick.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:41

Did we end it? Yeah, real quick.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:43

We gotta talk about it, I guess. Well, there's two things. So Rolly and uh apparently it became official. The ring posted it. There's no date yet, but it's in Vegas, and we're going. Rolly versus Tiafimo for Roley's belt at 147. That's that's fun. That's gonna be a fun undercard.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:00

I want to see who's undercard.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:02

Nobody yet, but I just know people are gonna be wanting to get on that undercard. We're doing a week in Vegas. I don't know. Don't worry though. We'll but we'll get there when we get there. Once it gets another. Yeah. We're getting we're going to that fight, Willie. And for a week in Vegas, fight week.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:18

A week is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:19

Come on, Willie.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:21

We'll bring the ladies anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:23

Um, because think about that. They're both friends, they both have personality. Babies, yeah, ladies and babies. Get a babysitter.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:29

No, big mama mel, baby. The baby gonna come into the fight for free.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:33

Yeah, fuck it. Yeah, I've never been to Vegas, but fuck it.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:36

Uh yeah, we need the we need the girls, there. I'm not even there for the I need we need the no, we need the our girls anyway. No, for real, because I don't want to be in there gambling 24-7. I'll be fucking tight.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:49

I have so so contrary to popular belief, as the boxing nerd I am, been going to fights since 2008. Um, uh, I've never been to Vegas on purpose. I was gonna go to Triple G versus Canelo 3, tore my bicep, couldn't go. Um, thankfully, I was flat broke, but my credit card was coming with me. Uh, but I couldn't go to that fight. That was the only time I was gonna go, and I haven't been, just because I'm a big Triple G fan. But uh yeah, and the reason is because it checks off all my boxes. I've talked about it before.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:24

Um, anyway, I only went to I went to McGregor the Cowboy.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:29

That's awesome. McGregor's fighting again, too. We gotta watch that. He we gotta bring the spar in for that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:33

He finished them in like 50 seconds. I was so mad we spent all that money.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:37

I think I'm betting against McGregor.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:39

Yeah, but yeah, knowing what I know about boxing, just another return.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:42

Knowing what I know about boxing, I'm betting against McGregor. Anyway, that's a separate story. We're getting all over the place. We have ADD Javanta Davis. That there's like a threesome going on.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:52

What the hell? What do you got going on? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:55

Davis. Oh, yeah, Davis Tank, Tank,

Tank Haney Shakur Rumor Mill

SPEAKER_04 1:25:00

Haney, actually, it's a foursome, and then Keyson's sprinkling his name in the mix. Tank Tank Davis is talking about he wants Haney.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:07

You said Davis and Tank at the same time.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:10

Oh shit. Javonta Davis. Yeah, I say Javonta, get my mind right. Javanta Davis, Haney, Haney, and Shakur. Yeah, and then Keyshawn too is like throwing his name in the mix for Haney.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:23

Hopefully, Keyshawn comes on the show word, because I'll reach out. Yeah. Um, no, my cousin cousin, I'll try. My cousin was talking to him as as brother. So maybe one of them. I just I just saw my cousin yesterday. So yeah, yeah, he's back.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:39

But stay on track.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:41

What about it?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:42

You tell me, you talking about it. You're the tank sexual. What's going on? I don't know. All right, yo, that's it for the sparring boxing podcast today.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:49

You the one that was has talking about brought it up. Like, I thought she was about to tell the whole spill. Like, you knew the drama or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:56

We are an hour and 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:58

Actually, longer. I don't understand. I don't even know why they was tweeting another.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:02

I think, but Davis, I think, is coming back, so that's good. That's good for boxing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:05

And he said, uh, Bill said uh tank is on the list. So hopefully that happened. Yeah. Well wait, we'll wait. Shit. 197.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:16

Anyway, that's it for the spar unboxing podcast. Sorry we are delayed.

Merch Giveaway And Sign Off

SPEAKER_04 1:26:20

Um, if you are listening and you made it this far, DM me. I'm giving out merch gear like crazy. Um, I'm actually gonna do a giveaway soon, so follow the podcast. Uh yeah, follow, I mean, follow the podcast on Instagram. Shout out to Empire Nutrition. Happy Fourth of July, y'all.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:37

Remember July, y'all. Stay safe.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:39

Whatever's going on in America today, it's still better than it going on in another country, I promise.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:44

Yeah, exactly. So love being American, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:47

Hell yeah, for real, for real. And we're not like patriots. Yeah, exactly. We're just speaking truths, man. Two different walks of life speaking truths, man. And um, if you're not a boxing fan, fuck you. Peace.