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That's a part that's"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":48.54,"endTime":51.6,"body":"a wounded part within me that's"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":48.54,"endTime":51.6,"body":"becoming alive."},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":53.13,"endTime":56.13,"body":"Welcome to"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":53.13,"endTime":56.13,"body":"successful with ADHD. I'm Brooke"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":56.13,"endTime":58.14,"body":"Shipman. Let's get started."},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":59.82,"endTime":64.14,"body":"Welcome back to successful with"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":59.82,"endTime":64.14,"body":"ADHD. 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I would"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2326.469,"endTime":2331.839,"body":"also identify what's your most"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2331.839,"endTime":2336.999,"body":"challenging part when it comes"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2331.839,"endTime":2336.999,"body":"to ADHD? What's the part of"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2336.999,"endTime":2340.959,"body":"yourself that you're like, I"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2336.999,"endTime":2340.959,"body":"frickin hate this. This is so"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2340.959,"endTime":2345.399,"body":"annoying. I want it to go away."},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2340.959,"endTime":2345.399,"body":"It creates so much interference"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2345.399,"endTime":2349.629,"body":"in my life, and I just want it"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2345.399,"endTime":2349.629,"body":"to be gone. 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And I want to"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2363.669,"endTime":2367.029,"body":"just say that, like, let's say"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2363.669,"endTime":2367.029,"body":"the most annoying thing in your"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2367.029,"endTime":2370.539,"body":"ADHD is a weakness of yours,"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2367.029,"endTime":2370.539,"body":"your weakness is never gonna be"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2370.629,"endTime":2374.499,"body":"gone per se. 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That's such a bad"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2470.32,"endTime":2475.69,"body":"thing. Right? That's the"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2475.69,"endTime":2477.13,"body":"difference. So it's"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2477.13,"endTime":2481.42,"body":"reframing"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2477.13,"endTime":2481.42,"body":"that? Yes. So if someone wants"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2481.45,"endTime":2484.69,"body":"help, I would love for you to"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2481.45,"endTime":2484.69,"body":"share where they can find you."},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2484.72,"endTime":2487.27,"body":"So if you're"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2484.72,"endTime":2487.27,"body":"wanting to just dip your toes, I"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2487.27,"endTime":2491.17,"body":"would certainly buy the book, no"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2487.27,"endTime":2491.17,"body":"bad parts by Richard Schwartz."},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2491.38,"endTime":2495.25,"body":"It's phenomenal. And it has a"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2491.38,"endTime":2495.25,"body":"lot of guided exercises just"},{"speaker":"Paulina Seigel","startTime":2495.25,"endTime":2500.11,"body":"like we did today. 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And this"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2539.5,"endTime":2543.13,"body":"was really, for those of you who"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2543.13,"endTime":2547.27,"body":"are watching or listening the"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2543.13,"endTime":2547.27,"body":"this I feel a sense of calm,"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2547.45,"endTime":2552.37,"body":"honestly. There's just so much"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2547.45,"endTime":2552.37,"body":"to be curious about. So I"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2552.37,"endTime":2554.98,"body":"appreciate the knowledge because"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2552.37,"endTime":2554.98,"body":"you just don't know what you"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2554.98,"endTime":2558.07,"body":"don't know. 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I hope it"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2567.61,"endTime":2571.75,"body":"helps you on your journey. And"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2571.75,"endTime":2575.65,"body":"if you need any additional"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2571.75,"endTime":2575.65,"body":"support for you or a loved one"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2575.65,"endTime":2579.25,"body":"with ADHD, feel free to reach"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2575.65,"endTime":2579.25,"body":"out to us at coaching with"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2579.25,"endTime":2583.72,"body":"brooke.com and all social media"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2579.25,"endTime":2583.72,"body":"platforms at coaching with"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2583.72,"endTime":2588.04,"body":"Brooke and remember, it's Brooke"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2583.72,"endTime":2588.04,"body":"with Annie. Thanks again for"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2588.04,"endTime":2590.02,"body":"listening. See you next time."}]}