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But Linda,"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2548.7,"endTime":2551.04,"body":"thank you so much for your time."},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2548.7,"endTime":2551.04,"body":"I'm so glad that we met at the"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2551.04,"endTime":2555.96,"body":"conference, because otherwise I"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2551.04,"endTime":2555.96,"body":"don't know how or when I would"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2555.96,"endTime":2559.32,"body":"have found you, or we would have"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2555.96,"endTime":2559.32,"body":"connected, and I would have, I"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2559.32,"endTime":2562.82,"body":"don't think you gotten this goal"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2559.32,"endTime":2562.82,"body":"of information. Yeah, right,"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2562.88,"endTime":2565.34,"body":"right. Well, thank you for"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2562.88,"endTime":2565.34,"body":"sharing your platform with me"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2565.58,"endTime":2569.78,"body":"and letting me share what my"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2565.58,"endTime":2569.78,"body":"mission is. Of course, it's so"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2569.78,"endTime":2573.5,"body":"important. Thanks for listening"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2569.78,"endTime":2573.5,"body":"to this episode of successful"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2573.5,"endTime":2577.52,"body":"with ADHD. I hope it helps you"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2573.5,"endTime":2577.52,"body":"on your journey, and if you need"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2577.58,"endTime":2582.52,"body":"any additional support for you"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2577.58,"endTime":2582.52,"body":"or a loved one with ADHD, feel"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2582.52,"endTime":2583.72,"body":"free to reach out to"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2582.52,"endTime":2583.72,"body":"us@coachingwithbrooke.com"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2586.06,"endTime":2590.02,"body":"and all social media platforms"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2586.06,"endTime":2590.02,"body":"at coaching with Brooke, and"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2590.02,"endTime":2594.52,"body":"remember, it's Brooke with an E."},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2590.02,"endTime":2594.52,"body":"Thanks again for listening. See"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2594.52,"endTime":2595.42,"body":"you next time you."}]}