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I've got information on"},{"speaker":"Ari Tuckman","startTime":2547.68,"endTime":2551.34,"body":"all my books, including the new"},{"speaker":"Ari Tuckman","startTime":2551.34,"endTime":2553.14,"body":"ADHD productivity manual."},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2554.76,"endTime":2557.94,"body":"So good. What"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2554.76,"endTime":2557.94,"body":"a great domain name. Kudos to"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2557.94,"endTime":2565.7,"body":"you, adhd.com he took it, guys,"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2557.94,"endTime":2565.7,"body":"you can't take that. I love it,"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2566.0,"endTime":2569.3,"body":"all right. Well, Ari, thanks"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2566.0,"endTime":2569.3,"body":"again for your time, and we'll"},{"speaker":"Brooke Schnittman","startTime":2569.3,"endTime":2573.68,"body":"talk soon. 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