The Peoples Empowerment Podcast Episode 15 ~ Emma Dunwall (eSpeaks Freely)

Lighting the Frontline ~ Emma of ESpeaks Freely on Truth, Propaganda & the Gen Z Awakening
 
Emma Dunwell is young but her voice carries the weight of a generation standing at a crossroads. At just 22, Emma has already travelled the country documenting protests, interviewing everyday people, and shining a light on the stories the mainstream won’t touch. Known online as eSpeaks Freely, she has become a powerful counter‑voice to the narratives shaping modern culture, politics, and identity.
 
In this episode, Simone and Emma dive deep into Emma’s personal journey: from navigating mental health challenges and the chaos of lockdowns, to witnessing propaganda firsthand, to losing her great‑nan during COVID and beginning to see the world through a spiritual lens. Emma shares how these experiences ignited her calling to expose deception, uplift authentic voices, and document this pivotal moment in history with honesty and courage.
 
Together, they explore the generational divide, the indoctrination creeping through schools and media, the spiritual battle beneath global events, and the importance of reclaiming autonomy, discernment, and faith. Emma also speaks openly about her work on the ground, her encounters at protests, the emotional toll of frontline journalism, and the profound conversations that keep her going.
 
This is a conversation about awakening, resilience, and the responsibility of speaking truth in a world built on noise.
 
Subjects Covered:

- Who is Emma?
- The birth of eSpeaks Freely
- Livestreaming protests & documenting real‑time truth
- Propaganda, indoctrination & psychological warfare
- Gen Z: the battleground generation
- Spiritual awakening during COVID
- Personal loss, resilience & finding purpose
- Journalism as testimony: capturing history uncensored
- Experiences on the ground — the good, the bad, and the dangerous
- Building authentic community & bridging divided worlds
- Why speaking up matters now more than ever
- How to follow and support Emma’s work

Connect with Emma:   

Website: eSpeaksFreely.com 
YouTube: @ESpeaksFreely 
Telegram: t.me/espeaksfreely 
Instagram: @espeaksfreely 
X: @espeaksfreely 
TikTok: @espeaksfreely
 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Welcome to episode 15 of the People's Empowerment Podcast with Empower the People with your host myself, Simone Marshall. And tonight, or today, we have a special guest, Emma Dunwell, who is joining us to speak freely. And uh Emma, you run a website called eSpeaks Freely, and you've got your own podcast. And as I said earlier, the main reason why we love to have different voices on this podcast is to really raise and elevate those who are speaking truth, those who have been questioning narratives. And I know from your perspective, you've been going around the country speaking to a variety of different people in different quarters, different parts of the country, uh, with different backstories. And I think it's really interesting to hear from someone as young as yourself who is what they would describe as Gen Z, right? Or is it Gen X? Gen Z. I'm Gen X, you're Gen Z. I don't even know why they give these Gen Z, Gen what what is the whole point of that? I have no idea, but to separate. Well, yeah, you're right, probably divide, conquer, and build that separation between the older generations, right? But um, I just want to thank you for giving us your time today. Um, we we want to find out more about you and the work that you're doing, and hopefully it will give inspiration and edification to those who have a voice but aren't necessarily using it right now. So I'd love to hear a bit about your journey, how you started off, what what brought you to creating your own website and your own uh podcast? What what kind of was the driver behind that and what you've discovered on your journey?

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Well, this might be I have you on. Um basically, um, I mean, yeah, so I my online, I suppose you could call persona is uh eSpeaks Freely. Um, and I am the host of the Speak Freely podcast. I have my website, but it all started off initially um covering protests, being on the ground doing live streams because I wanted to, I wanted to be able to show people what was going on at home um in real time before the mainstream media, you know, got their hands on it and put their spin on it and everything like that. And where my channel really started off and really um uh people started to take notice of of my content was in Epping. Um, and that was because the Bell Hotel in Epping, which is in Essex for those that might not know, um, was currently was being used and is still currently being used to house asylum seekers. Now uh the asylum seeker label is a tricky one in 2026 in the UK. It does not always mean some genuine person who has been in trouble or is being persecuted and has come over here for genuine reasons. A lot of these are economic migrants, a lot of these people, from what I've heard on the ground, people believe that it's like an army building up, and a lot of people call them invaders. These are my words, this is what I've heard on the ground. Um, and there is evidence to suggest these things. There is, these are not just you know outlandish conspiracies that have that have come from nowhere. So um Epin was really where you know my channel sort of kicked off. But where I started to get an interest in journalism really was probably about a year or so, a year, a year to a year and a half earlier than that. Um, and I was at home almost every day because I did uh my I do my uni course from home, still doing it um from home because of just certain mental health issues that I struggled with my teen years, and I just couldn't I couldn't deal with the social aspect of college or anything, so I ended up moving my course to study from home. And that was where because my mom was also, you know, she was watching the news every day, um, and everything like that. I just started looking at things, and it was around the same time that my uh my great nan, meaning my mom's mom's mum, had um passed away. She was 95. Um and I truly believed that she was killed by the COVID vaccine. She was like one of the healthiest 95-year-olds if you can ever imagine. I remember like the last time she chased me and actually ran, like as as a when I was a kid, we used to play like hide and seek. She was like 87 and she ran across the living room. And I remember at the time saying, like, dad, you just what? What the hell? And like she was so incredibly healthy. And me and my mum were essentially her carers. We were going around every single day, or when we weren't there, she was at our house and and everything. Um and COVID hit, the laws were a lot, you know, stricter. But luckily, my mum was actually her official carer, so we still got to, you know, see her and everything like that. Um and then I can't I can't remember why, but for some reason I think I think she'd gone to my uncle's or something like that, but uh there was a gap where we knew like, right, we didn't need to go and see Nan tomorrow because she's she's busy, she's doing something. Um and then we tried to call her the next day and it rang in the morning, couldn't get through, but yeah, it was quite normal because it was like because her hearing aids were not very good, so she'd very often not hear the phone. And um uh yeah, so long long story short, she didn't answer the phone, we ended up going round. She'd had a really bad fall and the ambulance came, she went in the ambulance, and that was the last time we saw her because of the COVID restrictions. Then it was not long after that that Labour came into power and they took away the winter fuel allowance for pensioners, and it was by such a ridiculous margin, and the the limit was literally like if you're not if you're not basically on the streets begging people for money, you're you're not you know eligible. It was it was just absolutely ridiculous. And because obviously we used to go to Monan's care home all the time, we used to speak to her friends, I used to chat out in the lounge with everyone, and I just kept thinking of of everyone and and how they must be struggling, and some of them didn't have kids and didn't have any family to look after them, and it was just but it was really heartbreaking, and it was around the same sort of time that me and my mom were coming to Jesus and coming to our faith, which was which was very, very new for us because me and my mom were both kind of uh rebelled against it because my nan and uh my great nan were both like very devout Christians, um and it was all of these things in in collective that made me start looking at the world completely differently, and it what it it obviously if if COVID have hadn't happened, I don't think I would have looked at things in the same way because it was just there was too much going wrong, and it was for bizarre reasons. Like I've I've had scoliosis since I was um I got diagnosed when I was 14, no, 12 with scoliosis. So I've been like back and forth to the hospital like for most of my life. Um, and I remember like having appointments in in the lockdown, and I remember thinking like looking at the news and thinking, but what but they say that the hospitals are full and I'm going and they're empty, and nothing's making sense, and it was just it was just a really dark time, and then the com the combination of yeah, becoming more um close to Jesus and looking at things through the political lens. That was when I started looking at the spiritual war that we're in at the moment, and I started seeing it for what it is, and I started seeing real forces of good and evil at play in everything that we're watching, whether it be the COVID vaccines, whether it be all these foreign wars that are plaster all over our screens all the time, you know, anything of transgenderism, all of these things, it comes down to good and evil. And if you really want to go right down, right down the rabbit hole to the bottom line, it all comes down to God and the devil, Jesus and Satan, or whatever you want to name these entities. That's what it comes down to. And I think that was really like the beginning of my mindset becoming okay, this is what I want to do, this is what I want to spend my life doing. Because I think people need to see this and people need to know about this, and especially people in my generation. My mom, you know, kind of raised me as a tinfoil hat wearer from from way back. I remember like she taught me about what the new world order was when I was like eight years old, and uh, you know, but she one thing she always said to me that will always always stay with me. She said, My generation is uh was the one to wake up, your generation will be the one to do something about it. And I truly believe that.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Wow, wow, wow, yeah, that's lots there to to dive into.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

I mean sorry, I rambled.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

No, no, no, not at all. It's fascinating, really, how how the the the you know what happened, the shaking that took place in 2020 actually did awaken a lot of people up to the spiritual war that's at play. Now, I'm a I'm I'm uh a believer. I mean I've been in faith since 2012. I came to faith, and for me, so for me, it was very easy to spot that straight away, but it's so encouraging and so um uh heartwarming to know that it's caused a lot of people to run and turn back to God. And God is the ultimate light, right? He is the father of light, and like you say, we are the I'm I'm uh uh, you know, like we said earlier, Gen Um Gen X, your Gen Z, and our generation has had woken up or is you know, probably the most uh aware, but it is your generation that needs to carry that light. In fact, Ephesians, I think it's Ephesians 4, says that have nothing to do with the fruitless works of darkness, but expose it. And that's all we're doing is we're exposing, we're bringing the light so that the dark has to run and flee, right? That's the only way that we can really get through this, I think. But um, beautiful testimony there, and you know, I share some of your you know, anger and stress, uh, distress about you know, family members. My nan, you know, I know that my aunts who are not awake, um, you know, allowed her to take not only the flu vaccine every year, but the COVID vaccine, the COVID injections, and within sort of a few months she was that she was dead as well, you know, I was at her, you know, having to go to her funeral. And it's just so sad because you know, there's there's not much you can say to people who have really bought into it and have they've invested their lives into it, you know, they've stayed away, they've worn the masks, they've repeated the three-word mantras, you know, they've and I I did all of this.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Sorry to interrupt, but I think like it's really important. You know, I did all of this at the time I was uh I was about 16, uh, and obviously my mum was my official uh the official carer for my nan. And we did the whole masks. Uh I had the first jab. My mom had the first jab. We we haven't had any since, but I've been jabbed once, and it was literally my nan, my great nan, had the vaccine, the vaccine, and then six months later, I don't know wrong, this was a woman who was at 95 was in full possession of all of her faculties. She was one of the smartest women uh I I've ever known. Um she was absolutely brilliant. She was oh, she was like a little ball of light, and I say little because obviously she was a tiny little thing in her head, like a little white afro blesser. But within six months of taking the vaccine, all of a sudden she developed pretty much all of wow, just just straight up dementia in such a rapid, rapid uh time frame, and then other things started happening, like like she she was being clumsier and everything like that. And I and when I when I said earlier that you know she had a fall, it wasn't just like a normal fall, it was like when I when I walked into the apartment, unfortunately, I was the one that found her. When I walked into her flat, my first thought was someone that someone had broken and attacked her. There was furniture flung around. I don't know if she'd had some kind of um fit or something, like seizure. I I will never know what happened, no one will ever know what happened, but I do truly believe that it was the vaccine that that made her change because she was she was in perfect health before for a 95-year-old woman, you know, and it was just such a sudden change. And people, there was such an abundance of evidence and so many stories like this for so many other people, and still, you know, there are family members out there, you know, granddad, I'm sorry, I love you, but come on now, you know, who still goes and gets his booster, and it's and it's it's maddening, and I can say it until I'm blue in the face, but this is this is how good the indoctrination is, this is how good the propaganda is, this is how good the guilt tripping was. The guilt tripping is so important. That's the only reason why I took it, and my mom took it, because we wanted to do our part, keep other people safe. You know, this this whole thing. It's really it was a really traumatizing time for everyone. It's like it's traumatizing an entire generation of people.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yeah, but at the same time, it has shaken a lot of people out of their slumber, right? Uh a slumber that they never even realized they were in. Um, and it's calling people uh up higher, you know, to their true authentic selves. You know, we were talking earlier about uh the propaganda, which is something that you actually focused on quite a lot. You counter proper, you know, you're you're very much counter-propaganda, aren't you? And I can see you've got quite a few articles and pieces on your on your website in reference to propaganda and how it works and and how to avoid it, really, because once you become aware of it and how it works, it's much easier to spot it and avoid it, right? And not accept it. So tell me a little bit about your experiences with propaganda. What's the message that you want to kind of get out there and and the experiences that you've had when you've been going around the country and listening to all these different voices from the ground, you know, the ground up is really important. You know, the mainstream news will paint a picture however they want it to appear, but we know that that isn't a true picture, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Yeah, well, the thing is with propaganda, and also just so anyone isn't uh confused, if you if you are looking on my website and you do see a tab for propaganda, that is actually um a tab uh where people can go and buy my free speech magazine, which is called propaganda, as in propaganda when a colony takes a good look at something, so just so there's no confusion, but um yeah, no, it is it is insanely difficult. And the thing is, is my audience because of where my work started in Epping and live streaming and protests and asylum protest uh asylum hotel uh situations and so forth, my audience is very much mixed with I I'd say your your typical kind of right-leaning uh working class viewpoints, um, and also 50% kind of like the freedom movement, old school liberals, you know, anti-vax, what people might call hippies, which I absolutely love. I've I but you know, I sit very I sit very comfortably in those two in those two worlds, and I enjoy that I can occasionally bring those two worlds together because they have a lot in common. Um, and you know, and it's not that these, you know, working class right-leaning people, I don't actually think they are right-leaning. I think most of them are very centrist. I consider myself centrist, but what we're doing is this is again how we can link back to uh propaganda and indoctrination and how it works, is the people haven't changed. We've changed the meaning of the word. Racist does not actually mean racist anymore. We've we've lowered the bar so, so, so much that if someone just questions immigration, illegal or illegal, you know, whatever, they're instantly they're getting compared to Hitler. It's it's that kind of jump that we're seeing now. Same with um, same with, you know, uh transgenderism. The indoctrination, I could I can clearly see um in uh high school, in middle school, how my mind progressed to in high school someone who was very, very supportive of trans rights and all this kind of stuff. Um, and I still like people on YouTube um very much uh who just kind of started off doing normal videos, but now they obviously they they kind of they tackle this woke nonsense. But they're both transgender individuals, you might have heard of them. Uh one's called Blair White, and the other one is called Buck Angel. Now, they Buck Angel is a biological woman, looks like a man. To be honest, it's my opinion, you might disagree. If Buck didn't tell you they were trans, I wouldn't have known. Uh, same with Blair, if they didn't say, I probably wouldn't have known. Um, and they they they're just common sense people, they're just they're they're what I grew up, and what I'm sure um other generations that older generations than mine grew up thinking that that was a genuine transsexual, that was someone who genuinely had gender dysphoria and just wanted to live their life, not bothering anyone as the opposite sex, not trying to force their way into anyone's bathroom or anything. But this is where the level of indoctrination is has got to now. Um, and you know, the propaganda, we see it in, we see it in our media, we see it in our TVs, we see it in kids' programmes, we see it, we hear it in music. Um, you know, there's there's some really interesting theories. Uh, there was a really interesting theory by um Cassandra Wise PhD with the Truth University, who I think at the moment is looking into like the sexualization of just everyday inanimate objects that that is um essentially just keeping certain parts of the brain that are always thinking about sex and everything like that, just active, that just kind of make people more you know loose, I guess, and sexual, and and how this has also led to kind of uh the degradation of our society. And and at first, I I'll admit, even like I'm kind of like and I started reading it, I was like, you know what? That that makes some sense, just the same as they they make tiny little changes without you knowing, like um the frequency of music, you know, the healing frequency, and then all of a sudden it being very damaging and very like uh coarse and everything. You know, propaganda is everywhere, it's in multiple forms, and that's because modern warfare is not drones or robots or AI or anything like that. Modern warfare is psychological, spiritual, it's in the mind, it's in the soul, and the quicker people realize that, the easier it does get to see these things. Um, and you know, it is a journey. I mean, like I remember when I first got into journalism, you know, some people might hate for me for this, but I was like proper pro-Israel, proper pro-Israel. Um, and that was like our whole, whole journey. Um, but I I'm not ashamed of that because I think people need to start recognizing and admitting where they have fallen for propaganda, where they have been indoctrinated, and also the more stories that I think personally, the more stories that people hear about people actually changing their mind. Because how often do we see now like um debate stands where they say a sentence is change my mind, but they don't actually want their mind changed, they don't actually want to engage in a discussion where maybe someone's gonna give way, it's just a screaming match until someone wins, you know. So I think recognizing when you have changed your mind and and and the journey of that. Um, sorry, journey is starting to sound a little cliche, but you get what I mean. Um, recognizing that is is another step to demolishing the power that the propaganda has over you and around the the people that you talk to because we we are all like emitters, we we hear something and then we go and tell that person, and we go and tell that person, and then we and we carry that energy. Like if something makes us angry, we go and put that anger on something else and or someone else. And it's the same with propaganda. If something scares you, like how do you think COVID happened? How do you think so many people fell for the lockdowns through fear? One person was saying, I'm scared of this because I saw this, and then another person goes, Well, so so and so said that they saw this and they were scared, so I think I should be scared, and da-da-da-da. You know, that's how it works, but yeah, you need to start realizing people need to start realizing that it's it's in the mind, it's in the soul, it's not in it's not in the in the physical, it's not in the material, as much as that's what that's where they try and keep us, that's why it's in our TV and our radio and our media, because they want to keep us in the physical.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

Yeah, absolutely. They want to keep you locked into their narratives. Oh, excellent. So, you know, you obviously have just you're not far from from having left school and college, and I mean you're still at uni now studying, which is great, good for you. Um but I just wondered, you know, your experiences throughout the school system, did you ever notice this slow creeping uh ideological kind of um push in in your own school, in your own life? Did you see that amongst your own friends and and family back then? Or is it only something that you've really noticed now and and can look back and reflect and say, yeah, that was definitely being me being primed and conditioned and because that's what they do, right? They they prime you, they um groom you from a young age with this this idea. Did you see it with your teachers and and your school friends?

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Some things, with some things, absolutely. Like I mean, but they they could just be like really minor things. Like, for example, um, I had this teacher when I was in uh high school, I won't know the high school, but but I just for context, I grew up in the West Midlands, um, you know, in kind of like the Warwickshire-Worcestershire area, which is generally quite conservative, luckily for me. Um, and I I would say compared to the cities, was much more slow pace in that kind of way. Um, however, there could just be little things like I remember I had this teacher in high school who always used to come in, and she was she was a brilliant teacher, don't get wrong, she was lovely, but even as a high school student, I used to think the way she dressed was just completely inappropriate, like six-inch stilettos, like tiny little skirts, like it and she was a maths teacher, like, and it was just and all the boys, you know, used to you know, whistle out and everything like that, and I think like little things like that, yeah, but no other teacher pulled her up on it, she was just allowed to do that and everything like that. And I don't think that was okay. Looking back on that now, if that if that was my son's teacher or something like that, I would have a problem, I would have gone up to the school. Um, other things like you know, the countryside where I grew up is typically uh always branded in the media as racist. That's just not true, it's just majority white that but you know, we're native Brits, we're native English people, so what do you expect? Um, but because of that, because um because immigration tends to happen more and and aim more at the major cities, the countryside has tended to stay a white majority for a longer period of time. This is why, and this is the only reason why um the countryside has been and has been able to be labelled racist. It is not that I've in fact I never actually experienced or saw racism with my own eyes until I moved to London. That and that is the God's honest truth. Um, so there was obviously uh growing up, there was a lot of push for kind of the accepting the ideology of uh mass immigration. Um, you know, I mean diversity. Yeah, and I went and I and I because I I got I essentially got bullied out of my first high school. So I got homeschooled for a bit and then I went to a different school. Um, which uh there was there was white people there, there was black people there, there was Asian people there, Chinese people there, you know, there was there was like a a very diverse mixture of children, but no one ever spoke about it because there was just no need to. Everyone got on. There was no and it was only kind of like in the later high school years that people and the teachers were getting sensitive on the students behalf. Like, and bear in mind, I think we only had like two teachers that were people of colour, I think the rest of them were white, so like the most most of the diversity was within the student population, and it was like all of us who have been getting on perfectly fine for years, all of a sudden the teachers were getting angry on each other's behalves and saying that we were being that we were we were othering, or and these things did start creeping in. But of course, the biggest indoctrination that I experienced in high school was uh COVID hit in my GCSE year. Um, I got I was studying my ass off. I was studying so, so, so hard because the results I got for my mock exams terrified me, and I was like, oh, that'll never do, gotta get better at this. So I started studying, um, like to the point where my mom had she had to like pull me away and tell her that she was uh, you know, I was addicted to it. Um, but then yeah, I got the chance to actually sit my exams ripped away. Um, and school was gonna end early because the country was going into lockdown. Um, but then I actually got I I call it kicked out of school uh two weeks earlier than that because I had a cough. So while everyone on the last week like got sent away with college packs and advice and where to go and everything, I got nothing. I didn't get any of that. They didn't even email me. I had to chase them to get my GCSE results to actually give to the college. Like it was just it was an utter nightmare, it was an absolute nightmare. Um, and then it was only in college uh that I that I started to see the trans indoctrination started really creeping into into the more rural cities like Worcestershire and and places like that. And yeah, it started to really scare me. And I just remember I just remember just constantly being anxious all the time, and I just hated it. I hated being around people, I hated yeah, I I didn't like a lot of things about about social life at that time because it everything was just weird. I don't even know how I was to put it, everything was just weird, and I was like between the ages of 16 to 18, it was just utterly confusing, and I wanted to be away from all of it.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Wow, so that could have been a real detriment in your pathway, you know, like a lot of people going through some some kind of experience like that during their teenage years, um, you know, could potentially end up going down a really mentally disturbing pathway because of that, right? Because you don't feel like you can integrate, because you don't feel like you can socialize, because you don't think you can get on with people, because what you're experiencing, you know, is um is the antithesis to right relationships, right? To to starting off on a right footing. So what you've done, which is really brave and admirable, is you've turned that around and you've made your past experiences something to propel you and compel you to go on and do what you're currently doing, right? So having seen that, lived through it, experienced it and come out the other end, the duck, you know, seeing the light at the end of the tunnel has kind of given you the motivation to do what you're doing today, which is phenomenal. And and I think there's a lot of people your age who wouldn't have done that, who don't who haven't done that, who are probably still living in that dark cycle and those patterns of, well, I don't want to leave and leave the house because I don't want to see anyone or I don't want to speak to someone. And that's really sad because that whole person's character hasn't even formed yet. You know, they've only just started to form their character, and that is going to have like a bit of a stain, as it were, in their ability to go forward in life well, you know, and have good, meaningful relationships, which is sad. But um, but but here you are, you know, 22 years of age and on a path with a torch in one hand and a microphone in the other. Um, tell tell me, Emma, I'm really interested. You know, you've you've gone around the country, I've seen you've you've done quite a few um podcasts, but you've also gone around and spoken to a variety of different people, as I say. Um, it'd be really interesting to know what what has been the most awe-inspiring or captivating element of your journey in in speaking to others, what's really stood out for you, what's really um, you know, maybe even you've had a negative experience, I don't know, but but but let's start with the positive. You know, have you you've you can you tell us something that you've has really kind of etched in your heart um and will stay with you forever and and you know keep you motivated in in what you're doing today?

SPEAKER_00 29:36

So many there's so many things. My mind is my mind is buzzing with a list. I mean, the the first thing, just to kind of stick in chronological order, I suppose, is I I met the love of my life on the my first night in journalism, and you know, just like training, doing the Q ⁇ A, uh, and he was security on the door. Um, and it's it's like that being the starting point of my journey in journalism was has just always kept me believing this is guided, this is right, and where I'm supposed to be. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, I'm going in the right direction, even when it it and it gets so hard, even when it gets incredibly difficult. Um, and also just one of the things that will always stay with me, and like one of the things that I get really excited to tell my kids about is just all the places I've gone, all the people I've got to meet, people that I would never, ever have met, people on other sides of the country, people from other countries, you know, people that I've would have never ever ever even gotten close to, and I'm having the most wonderful, in-depth conversations. I mean, it was just uh a few weeks ago at the Stand in the Light Festival. I spoke to someone called uh Terry, and he oh, he just had the most inspiring story. And by the end of the interview, me and the cameraman were both crying. Uh, we were all crying, and it was and it was just a conversation that I'll remember for the rest of my life. He is probably a person I would tell my children about, it's the most inspiring, and I just think, and and then I really think like I've had so many conversations like that, it's so wonderful. I'm so lucky to be in this position, and people come to me, people you know, message me and email me with stories, or or just like even if it's not like a story that they want me to put out there on their behalf, people just want to tell me things, people just want to just know that uh they're not alone, and uh I feel so wonderful to be able to provide that space, and there's loads of people doing it, don't get me wrong, like there's there's loads of podcasts and and live streams and and YouTubers and this and that and everything like that. But I'm just so glad to be a part of it. I'm so so glad to be a part of it because I really do think that that I'm at the very very core of what I'm doing, take all emotion out of it, at the very very core of what I've what I'm trying to do, at least, is I'm documenting a very very very trying time in history and a very pivotal moment in history, and I'm documenting it in a way that the mainstream media can't touch. That's also that was also the goal of you know the propaganda magazine, to take it offline, take it to something, you know, unless someone wants to come and rip this out of my hand and burn it, you're not cancelling it, you're not getting rid of it. You know, that's the goal, that's what that's what we want. We want more of that. Um, and you know, yeah, there have been there have been bad experiences. I've been assaulted on protests where I've been trying to cover them. Um, I've lost my patience. So I remember there was one time where I was at a a trans rights protest and I was just filming, um, and these men, who of course were not identifying as men, were crowding round me and you know, putting all these signs over me and everything. And I the thing is, is I had to apologize online after because like in that moment I wasn't a journalist, I was just a woman who was scared. Um, and I snatched the signs out of their hands and I kind of lost my rag a little bit and started screaming, you know, that they're all predators, but but but then again, I it was I was live streaming the whole thing, so none of it could be twisted. So even the things where I'm going like, shouldn't have said that, oh, shouldn't have said that, it's all still, it's all still there. That's the goal. Like, I'll I know I won't take that live stream down, even if I think like oh that doesn't paint me in the best light, or caught me on a bad day, whatever. That's it's there, that's the point, and it's not edited, it's not being taken down, it's not being moved. Um, you know, and and yeah, I just think all of these things in collection, all the chaos and every time, because there have been times where I've thought, oh my gosh, I don't know if I'm crowded to do this. Like, I'm just the emotional toll of it sometimes and and the physical toll as well, because my scoliosis, like actually going out on these protests and covering them and everything can be quite painful sometimes. Um, but but yeah, there will always be just like I'll speak to someone or I'll have a conversation or I'll learn something. I just thought, yeah, no, I've got to keep going. I have to.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Amazing. Well, that's the that's the important bit. I mean, scripture says that a righteous man falls down seven times, but he picks himself up every single time. And that's the the the the the bit, you know, we've got to get used to uh okay, we're gonna fall, we're gonna trip sometimes, but we need to dust ourselves off and carry on and not allow it to affect our course and our direction, right? We need to continue in what we're doing, so that's really um inspiring, especially for those who feel like they're at a disadvantage or um you know they've got some kind of weakness or something that they feel it prevents them from doing it. I mean, you you are you know a testament to you, you know, that you've overcome those challenges and you don't allow those challenges to prohibit your the good work that you're doing, which is really inspiring. So well done for that. I must must say that. Um, all right, great. But why don't you tell us a little bit how people can find you, Emma, how they can connect and um you know how you might be able to assist anybody if you've got, you know, like you say, you've got these downloadable booklets, etc., that people can obtain from your website. Why don't you tell us a little bit more about that?

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Well, they're actually um so I am I am thinking about doing downloadable PT PDFs for the magazines, but at the moment they are strictly physical to try and promote, kind of like bringing things offline. But you can order them, I'll send it out and deliver it to your house. Um, they all come in. There's I I love this stamp. We custom designed this stamp, so and I individually stamp each and every single one, fragile free speech. Um, but yeah, so and you get some goodies in there. Issue two has just come out, comes with a free CD, uh, comes with some stickers and some other brilliant goodies in there. Um, but yeah, so essentially you can find me on X, Instagram, YouTube, and on Google. It's all eSpeaks Freely, uh, e for Emma and then Speaks Freely. Uh the website is eSpeaksfreely.com, and then yeah, on X and Instagram, it's all the same username. Um, you can find you can find my live streams uh and the podcast and everything all on YouTube, but I'm also uh trying to keep the website as up to date as I possibly can so you can currently find all of the podcasts on there as well. I've recently started a new series of videos called the Newsreel, which essentially before I would just um uh I would take my live streams and all my interviews, chop them up into a more concise report, but now I'm doing this new series called the Newsreel, where I come home and I actually do a talking to camera uh video as well to uh uh to accompany it and a really breakdown and go through what's going on, what this means on a broader scale, um, as well as going through the footage I've collected. Uh obviously they take a little bit longer to edit. I'm completely independent. Um, so if you would like to support um uh either the creational distribution of my free speech magazine or the content I do on my channel or any of the other work I do, there are uh there is a donations page on the website. I also have a buy me a coffee. Um yeah, all my links can be found uh in my link tree and uh which is in the bio on my ex at eSpeaks Free.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Oh, awesome. Thank you so much, Emma. I you know, I'm gonna have to draw it to a close now, but I'm very grateful for the time that you've shared and and the experiences that you've shared. Uh, our audience, I know, will be inspired, and this, you know, will hopefully motivate others uh to be fearless in the face of adversity, be fearless, right? We we you know, now is not the time for spectators. We need builders and teachers and those who are standing on the right side of history, right? Willing to put their necks on the line, willing to put their time and their energy and their money where their mouth is, right? And and not just be a spectator. So uh again, just uh well done to you. And I just really do pray and not only that your faith will deepen, but your whole initiative and your drive, you know, will just become more and more uh you'll become more and more determined in in the pathway that you've chosen. And I pray that God's protection will be over you and that your light will shine to in a very, very dark and dystopian world that we're living in right now. And hopefully that light will well, we know, we know the outcome. The light will defeat the the darkness, but um we might not see it in our lifetime, but it will get there.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

I hope so.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Indeed, well, with voices like yourself, we will, I'm sure we will. Thank you so much, Emma.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

Oh, thank you so much for having me. Sorry for babbling on.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

No, no, no, never babbling on. It's all good. Keep on, keep on, keep on, and um know that you're not alone. We're in this together, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

You're welcome, Emma. Take care.