Weasel Tales, Feat. Bobby "The Brain" Heenan

Weasel Tales: The Bobby Heenan Archives - Wrestling with Life, Dreams, Laughs, and the Art of the Grind

December 22, 2023 Steve Anderson
Weasel Tales: The Bobby Heenan Archives - Wrestling with Life, Dreams, Laughs, and the Art of the Grind
Weasel Tales, Feat. Bobby "The Brain" Heenan
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Weasel Tales, Feat. Bobby "The Brain" Heenan
Weasel Tales: The Bobby Heenan Archives - Wrestling with Life, Dreams, Laughs, and the Art of the Grind
Dec 22, 2023
Steve Anderson

Have you ever been clotheslined by life's unpredictability? Grab a ringside seat with me and the endlessly entertaining Steve Anderson, as we grapple with the world of dreams, wrestling, and the art of earning a buck. Together, we celebrate our listeners, sharing uproarious tales from the wrestling ring, practical tips for aspiring wrestlers (first tip: buy a ticket!), and why it's vital to have a backup plan when chasing dreams as slippery as a luchador in a title match.

Navigating the twists and turns of life requires more than a good suplex. That's why this episode isn't just about body slams; it's about building a life outside the ropes. From the importance of education and vocational training to the value of trust and self-sufficiency, we discuss how to stay grounded when the world around us—including post-9/11 security concerns and the ever-evolving job market—feels like a frenzied battle royal. Steve and I swap stories about our own experiences, providing candid insights into the resilience needed both in and out of the squared circle.

Wrapping up with a roundhouse kick of humor and heart, we vent over the universal annoyance of failed expectations, from trivial room service blunders to broader customer service fiascos. I share cherished lessons from my grandfather's time as a respected business owner, while Steve chimes in with his own witty observations. It's a conversation that dances around life's furniture, touching on health battles and family dynamics, all while reminding us to stay observant and prepared for whatever comes our way. So, lace up your boots, and let's tag-team this episode for a memorable mix of laughter, learning, and life lessons.

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Have you ever been clotheslined by life's unpredictability? Grab a ringside seat with me and the endlessly entertaining Steve Anderson, as we grapple with the world of dreams, wrestling, and the art of earning a buck. Together, we celebrate our listeners, sharing uproarious tales from the wrestling ring, practical tips for aspiring wrestlers (first tip: buy a ticket!), and why it's vital to have a backup plan when chasing dreams as slippery as a luchador in a title match.

Navigating the twists and turns of life requires more than a good suplex. That's why this episode isn't just about body slams; it's about building a life outside the ropes. From the importance of education and vocational training to the value of trust and self-sufficiency, we discuss how to stay grounded when the world around us—including post-9/11 security concerns and the ever-evolving job market—feels like a frenzied battle royal. Steve and I swap stories about our own experiences, providing candid insights into the resilience needed both in and out of the squared circle.

Wrapping up with a roundhouse kick of humor and heart, we vent over the universal annoyance of failed expectations, from trivial room service blunders to broader customer service fiascos. I share cherished lessons from my grandfather's time as a respected business owner, while Steve chimes in with his own witty observations. It's a conversation that dances around life's furniture, touching on health battles and family dynamics, all while reminding us to stay observant and prepared for whatever comes our way. So, lace up your boots, and let's tag-team this episode for a memorable mix of laughter, learning, and life lessons.

Speaker 1:

I guess the first thing I'll do is um, whoever's reading this, I'll be sure to think of a perfect book or a most uh, one of their dead beats. But, um, thank you for taking your time out to read my words and the words of my good friend and author and cartoonist, steve Anderson. That's what I say every show I do. I'm not going to say anything nice, but he's also a cartoonist. I didn't mention it once and he's not on me for that. So, um, yeah, this is going to be a lot of fun. I hope everybody enjoys reading it. There's going to be wrestling in it, there's going to be life in it, there's going to be, um, just things people I think need to know and a lot of things people don't need to know. So it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1:

People always come up to me and ask me they'll say how can I get into wrestling? And I get told you once, which, no matter. I think you're hiring any more bank robbers or drug dealers. Why would you want to get into this when you can do that and really have a good time and do something with gentlemen? I, if you tell people too, when they ask me how can I get into wrestling, I say buy a ticket so you get into it. But it's funny, you know, when I first started out, like I said in my other book, and we can quote from that book, right, sure, you can't do it, sure, I think they can't read my book. They won't read this one. Right, they charge a lawyer and they charge us and cut the book.

Speaker 1:

No, I was a kid, you know. I went to Marigold Arena in Chicago when I was mesmerized by the fact that we, these they came out of here was a bad guy and a good guy's a baby face. Some of you people that don't know are mooching this book. I was amazed by how they can control the people and the fans. Was that a person that would see Sonata? Or a person that would see Alphus? Or a person that would see the Rolling Stones? Or that's where I want to be a rock star. I want to be a rock and roll star. I want to be a movie star. It's like when we see a ball. How she was struck when she was a young child and wrapped up, how it would be her dream. But everybody has a dream. Some people dream about being a movie star, an actor, a wrestler, a boxer, a basketball player, a sports figure, a banker, a doctor, a home with a white fence and the kids and the dog and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, I was just hooked on television when I was a kid. I never went to when I came up in the morning, had trouble going to school because I stayed up at 9 and watched TV. Tv was around all night in the 50s and I don't think we had a TV or 52 or 54. Tv was around 11 o'clock but I was only 19 years old. But I had to sit and watch a test pattern. I was a henshin show. I didn't know. I stayed up all night and just I listened to it. How I was a shamanic to sing it. I didn't know what to do with it, but I just loved TV. And then in the morning I couldn't get up and then I went to see a home that works TV. I just watched MTV and then when the wrestler was on TV, my God, this is where I went. I really enjoyed. Plus, it was on TV. It was unnatural for me. You worked next, you had to get up in the morning. I figured, naturally it went 10 minutes, I could do that, but it was just the fun of entertaining.

Speaker 1:

I remember I used to get up and dance around my furniture. My mother would always cry on these movies for the stare. Remember you used to dance on furniture? Well, I'd show up and dance on furniture. I still got the belt marks on my ass to show you. And that was my dream to get into wrestling. I know how other people have a dream and I remember the first year I was in it.

Speaker 1:

Guy Mitchell, the first man I managed, told me he was a kid. One day he's going to be the most. One day you're going to feel like this is the most rewarding thing you've ever done, because you're thinking you're going to get 100 bucks and you'll get 150. And some kids, the one day you kid, you're going to think why didn't he get into this? Because you think you're going to get 100 and you get 25. And I still. You can't have it. You're gonna get this much. Well, everything could happen.

Speaker 1:

They had first count. That's what we taught. They count the tickets and count the money. We're on the floor with you.

Speaker 1:

We had 93,000 people at the Honeyack Silver Dome WrestleMania III. Four people were involved in that match Joey Morello, who was with our Monsoon son, who died in a car accident Monsoon uh, huck Hogan, myself and Andre who died of heart failure in France. So just two more lives left from that match. I was Hogan and I and it was 93,000 people. That's what they told us. We don't know if there was 93,000 people. There could have been 110,000. It could have been about a guarantee. There was probably no less. Because then you got the payout. I went for a promote in Indianapolis. We used to tell us the house was 10 grand, so we filled it. There was really eight, but you paid on six. But you can't count, you don't know.

Speaker 1:

And then when you get hurt, well, there's no hospitalization. A wrestler I go to my dad's in 83. I actually had an operation. And for 95, I went to WWF and went to work for Turner Broadcasting and was no longer a wrestler or a manager or a considered talent. I was considered an employee and an announcer. That's how I got insurance and how I could have my neck operation and my cancer operation. Or I'd have been in deep water Because whether I had the money or not, my operation and my life got cancer. Acne probably would have been 300, you know, half a million dollars with everything we went through.

Speaker 1:

So that can knock you out pretty quick. Right, be out whether you have it or not. If you don't have it, you don't know where you did it. If you have it, you're gone. It's gone. So there's no benefits at all in wrestling for the rest of the day. You know in wrestling for the guys you didn't merchandise money now from the WWE but you don't really know how much you sold. I'm sure he gets to see the record. For anybody else there's first count on him. You do get something. I know if a man's hurt you'll pay him for a while. He may pay him the whole time. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1:

I never had that problem at WCW when I broke my neck in 83,. I had an operation in 95. I never missed a day of work. I'm going to have an operation. It was an operation of 7 and a half hours, came out and went home and then Wednesday I flew back to Atlanta with a neck brace on to do voiceovers and they told me not to fly Because you know, you didn't know you had any turbulence and I looked you around. So I had it with a neck brace the whole time. It was hard to drink on the plane with a neck brace on. I was out of it, you caught me through, but they get into it.

Speaker 1:

You want to follow a dream or something? Well, I don't know. If you don't know how to scare somebody, there's really. There's a good money. And if you're a star, it takes forever to become a star in anything. It takes forever to make a lot of money. And making money is not a secret to being alive in this world, because we have a saying in our business it's not how much you make, it's how much you save.

Speaker 1:

I knew guys like Dr Gillie Gray and back in the late 50s, early 60s. People walk down the street, new York City, be like the cigars and $100 bills. I was impressed with a lot of people that probably never had $100 in their life. But if you have $100, you know how stupid that is. That's just the way he was, that's the way I was. Money was easy to come by for them because he was after the war, after the Korean war, and there wasn't a whole lot of money and things just didn't pick up. So, hey, $100? If you'd steal my block, you could probably make it a couple thousand a week, maybe $3,000 a week. I'm not sure he's making $2,000 a week with a hundred grand. I'm not sure he's making that, but he's finally making a hundred grand after making $250. So that was a lot for those guys, and some guys just didn't know how to handle money and that's the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

But if you get into wrestling, I don't know why anybody would, except you're a good lawyer. But if you're doing this business for anything else, then money is a fool Because you're going to hurt a guy. If I cut both ankles straight, I had my collar broke, I broke my neck, I had my elbow operated on for my overgird, I had my knee operated on, I had a little cyst on the side for my toes and febrile. I had big issues getting up. That's how they got pushed with me. That's how frankest I should have been.

Speaker 1:

But hey, this is just a chance to go to. They don't pay for your hotel rooms, they don't pay for your rent-a-cribes, they don't pay for your transportation, but you have to fly, uh, to the city to take a flight for you. You know, you've got a guy on Earth. Wait, you've got big blocks of it. You've got a power, you've got a 32-act in the middle of the sea. That's hard if you fly three or four hours like that. You've got to fly back and you know, then you've got to run, be a snail on it for a half hour, run a flight a way to half hour for the bus. Then you go to the hotel. The rooms are great. So then you go eat, come back, look to your room, then you go to the building. You've got to find the building and you come back and turn the car on. At six in the morning then I open it and you play the seven. There's.

Speaker 1:

No, it was more fun in the sixties when we were driving around the car and there was a guy that had good friends around him and the way it is today you can fly him and plus, they expect so much out of me, so much damage to your body. In the sixties they like you to take blocks and get blood. Getting blood means cutting yourself Because your mom shoots you down in the restaurant and you just come in this go-cropped somebody. I always had to be building and taking bumps and blades, so somebody should have been a hit or miss. And some guys work the guys I couldn't get no rest of to but now they want you to work in shape and want you to fly around that ring and if you don't have the image of this, it's not going to use you. So a lot of people really think they're a lot better than you are.

Speaker 1:

I don't know a lot of people right now at home that watch your TV. They think of themselves as I could be an actor. Believe me, and it's very hard business acting you only have to know your lines. You have to know their lines. As much as I've done comedy, wrestling and 40 years I've never done anything scripted, except one movie, oprah and I called Time Master, and I've heard a few more people watching the surveillance cameras or Walmart and others will have a movie, but we only had a couple lines and I don't know why this has happened that much.

Speaker 1:

But if you do a whole field of dialogue or a movie like the Bible or no, with the Wind or stuff, forget, I can never do it. Do you ever teach those people? They do it with singing teachers Because you're the one with the words of song, yeah, and they teach you rhythmically and do it, but no, you can't remember anything else's lines. You can't do it part-time. You can't just take a couple months off and become an actor. Those people have their work and they're out there doing jobs as waiters and bus boys and some are unemployed. While they're unemployed, they're just more forecasting how they're getting readings to get their break.

Speaker 1:

It's very, very hard. I don't even know how to start now. I guess the deputy of the wrestling school. I don't know if you have to pay for it. I don't even know where it is or what they do or if they even guarantee anything. So it's very hard to get into the business and it's harder. The hardest thing about getting into the business is staying in the business. You can stay in the business as long as you want. I don't know if they have been in the business for 10 years, but they had three matches. So it's because you know that the business is a work which now is not real. You've given their lives in the book. Yeah, it's just very hard to get into. I wouldn't suggest it be anything.

Speaker 1:

I suggest you get an education. Thank you, get a vocation. Learn how to repair carriages, learn how to do something with your hands, learn to trade, learn something or upholstery, learn something creative. But you're never going to get none of this because there's no pension, there's no promotion, there's no elevation, only going to work the main bank. I guess that's an elevation, but I mean, you know they don't go to lunch, they don't go to the famous feeding. There's nothing, there's no endorsements. I'm sure they get your thinking from officials. I'm not sure what they're getting, though, but I guarantee you you'll see them do stuff for a right card or for any things like that. So really consider home, watch and TV.

Speaker 1:

That guy in the left hand I know, suggest that you guys don't know what you're doing. If you guys are having a car accident or a car accident, pretend you were raised by a driver just to be dangerous. Enjoy entertainment value or not, but if you want to get into something real good, get in the place of surgery. You can see what Mr Lee said too, and they pay you for it. What about the guy who A park talented, who would want to be a park talented? Yeah, I mean, I don't want to pretend your arm is through the healthy ass, just get ass. He's had that mind. It was last year when I was a surgeon. Anyway, if you look at him, you can touch him when they're done in before and if they're going back to school. Is it really taking me from 7-8 to go to high school. Well, yeah, if they're taking you to high school, I don't know. Yeah, 7-8, that'd be nice, but I'm sure you'll be a little bit.

Speaker 1:

My grandfather, hunter Kovic, was doing the West Side Chukarvo. He was just so close to alcohol at the game he used to come in. My mother was a little girl and he'd give her a dollar A dollar was a lot of money in 1920s for the probation and they'd come in the bathroom, take their guns out and they'd try to get them to go for clothes and stuff and they'd make their clothes and one day he was wrapped. Burbank came and stole a lot of stuff, so he called the proponents and told them that they were wrapped. He said I'll get back to you. He had about two days later the proponents called them back and said you'll find all your clothes in the basement of the Longvale Avenue police station. The police knocked them off. So who would he trust? Yeah, the proponents killed everybody. He was a no-good monster gangster.

Speaker 1:

There were many kind people who were listening. He was a real, real, real guy. I mean really, really, really, really little, but the police would have let my grandfather in and he didn't. So that growing up in my mind was a lot of trust that way. You know, I weren't the only person I could really really trust. It's me. Can I know me? I talk to me every day. I haven't worked with anyone, anybody.

Speaker 1:

I was a homie child. I had imaginary friends. I had games I played. I lived in a hotel. I had 104 apartments and most people were either single or married. There weren't that many kids in the room, maybe three or four. So we had about 170 people to mess with and we kept their lives and watch everything. So that was pretty well-used Growing up.

Speaker 1:

But, boy, you've got to get an education. So you've got that diploma, you've got that sheepskin. Now, for the long of the whole, you know, I got that he's growing into the sheep, the real sheepskin and you've got to get you almost got to get a master's or something to really make a lot of money, because it's really tough out there. Now, don't forget, there's a lot of people being born and people that die and we're getting overpopulated and jobs are going to run small and the world is changing. I've been around 58 years and I've seen so much change in this world. So much change, so much change in the last two years Since my cancer, just going to an airport to change it.

Speaker 1:

They're different. They don't want you being a nail clipper. All they got to do with nails is get them in their own nails. One of the guys just put a mirror on, smashed it near the back, and now you've got a piece of shirt left. They're going to buy a nail clipper. Oh, my God, that's me. Just got that piece of trim and it's just not heavy and there we go.

Speaker 1:

I remember how, used to being able to play, they'd give me a dress for free in the day and it would make sense to me. They'd take you for weapons and you'd get on the plane and they'd give you all the booze you wore in a night. So, but no, there's going to be a change in. When you're hurt, you're done with it. Oh well, for me to sit down and come up with on my own, I can't, but for you to jump start me up then I can't help it. So we're talking about them again in a row before.

Speaker 1:

Well, if you're done, you're hurt out and you can't work anymore. If you can't do out there and perform, you're out of no use to them. And it's not a job they're giving to you as a favor to make you money. They're doing it to make themselves money. If you make money along the way, that's fine for you. It's like people have a different views than me because I have people as you know, the people as you go.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to deal with them. I'm going to deal with them. I am really going to deal with them for you. You know what a deal is. A deal is something you want. They're selling. No one's going to give you a deal. No one's going to sell cards to you for $100 when it was $150, because they like you. They're selling to you because they don't want to pay for it anymore or they can't pay for it. They want to get out of what they can. The deal was only for you. And if you consider a deal, fine, remember the guy didn't want the thing anyway. He wanted to get rid of it. He didn't want to get rid of it, there'd be no deals. That's the way it was. People only give you what they want. People just don't care about you.

Speaker 1:

I never said that about my grandfather, and no, they have a name of a. They're called Abidashers, full-back killers. Well, you had to be a customer. I always had to be right because you were dealing with the people in the neighborhoods. Well, hobo Hobo can come to you. He's a working-home or somebody else. He had to. I guarantee you, and the twice I think the customers he had were always the customers he had. He probably never had any new ones. He had 50 customers, really, he had 50 customers, by the way, he just didn't have a turnover in business.

Speaker 1:

Nowadays, they're going to have McDonald's here's. I'm going to teach you some more food right now, in my teeth. Now I'm going to buy them at McDonald's Right here. You see that $9.20 billion there. Here's some of us, a pound of meat. But you see these big, huge burgers on TV and they're all just dripping down their arms here here. Look at the hip-hop songs Go over and risk the body. It looks like one of those five-day deodorant bags. There you are, wow.

Speaker 1:

No, the new idea, by the way, is he raised a double-tilt today. I told him on stage he had no sense of where to park. Can I take some medications? I don't know where I went to go. And they have a thing here in Minnesota called walleye fingers. Fist don't have fingers, bucks don't have wings, but that's why we're eating here right Now. Wine comes in a box and booze comes in a plastic bottle and the number one rapper is a white guy, the number one golfer is a white guy and the talent's getting in the age of Chinese Hip-hop's.

Speaker 1:

Not a word. It's not a word. It makes no sense. It's a kind of man-pick. You see, no sense makes sense. Of course he's eating up a tin of white today, but Anyway.

Speaker 1:

So I told him on stage we'll look at room service. Room service in a kitchen's hose at one. That's okay. I'm not a pep-a-book and I'm thinking no, that's not right. That's not why I'm right. So I called back and I said it says there it says from 1 to 11 to 130. She said that's a misprint. She says nothing I can do about it? I was about to say what can you do with the ball of hall of it? Well, I think that's what she doesn't want to like it. She wants to be the general manager of the hotel.

Speaker 1:

I said you know I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but Damn it. What would you do if the advertising's super-bow on Channel 7, and you turn your eyes not on them and you decide to play it early? He didn't tell me, but I just made him. She said he'll serve you 100%, right. I said I need to be trivial about things, but I'm just tired of being advertised something and paid for something not getting it. She says I told her mom she's what she wrote to you and I said no, but she didn't care. And we don't care anymore because of your constant turnover. Now, if you only have 50 people coming in here, you got ones all day long and you want to use them a little bit too. You know now it's 1 to 12. I mean, this is soup kitchen. Yeah. So she said mom, thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

In my life I've learned I don't write letters to people because I've never, kind of ever seen and get it. I don't see their expression, or if they put the waste paper can, or if they call somebody in on a carpet. So I just wanted to tell this woman, tell her that she was very nice and polite and very concerned and was going to look into the thing. I said that's what you should do. You got to start complaining. It won't help you probably a whole lot in getting something back. You know people from being on a rooftop across from a post-op sometime with a high powered rifle. You may be scared out of me. Maybe you'll feel better.

Speaker 1:

But there's misjustice, there's unjust things in the world where people just don't care about you. Here's well, why do you have to go to the high level? It takes 11 items. If the guy's got 12, they don't send him back. They can't count the money, they can't register. So there's a lot of things in life that are very peculiar. The secret I have to life is to sit back and watch these things and that's how you're going to learn in school.

Speaker 1:

Believe me, I knew I. I knew I was. I didn't care about the Santa Marina and the pinto. I used to have a pinto. I didn't care anything about that. I never used it. I wanted to watch wrestling and TV and none of those things I'd ever used. But I did, I did, I did. I did everything that I'd seen through life happening.

Speaker 1:

So where did it? I had one of the old cops. On cops, I'm not that pleasant. First of all, I'll take it this way why would you take a man in a hospital? You don't make a home or a place. Be in a cop, well, every day you're going to lose your life. Kids say you can ride in a fast car over a red light and they're all at home and they're going to have to be in security. They're going to lose. No, I went to play in the streets. They'd never been clean. No, to be a proctologist Same thing. You work in the air holes.

Speaker 1:

The doctor came in the room with the thermometer bag here. He said what's that? He said oh my gosh, some air holes in my pencil.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, he was a German woman, he was Polish. She was a German woman. She kind of resembled a lot of red shoes on a whole bunch of heroes and they had three children. I had no idea how. After she had one child, my mother said she stayed in bed for a year and after that we'd done a cue ball all the time. I was with the doctors on the golfing trip. I was going to work for you in the Cucumber. After a week I was at the day of the day. I didn't know what it was. I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1:

I never met the man. He died in 29 before his depression. He died of a pneumonia. He was bowing. He wasn't even close to me yet and they got up in the room and fell in and got gangrene and I'm all hit and done. Wow, I never met him because he was Adam. I saw all he could do was massage. Yeah, he owned Richard Carlin. He owned Adam and Katie Trimbayes, t-r-e-m-b-a-c-z and he owned David Chupard.

Speaker 1:

The neighborhood had their own mayor of the West Side. He was like the mayor of the West Side. He owned these little thumb things. He'd push in and pews and surges. He'd hold your head and it's the courtesy of Adam J Trimbayes. Wow, and I know what church he was from.

Speaker 1:

But my mother had some of these things. She'd killed me at one time and he was a very, I guess, important person in his neighborhood. I guess if you know what her problem was, he'd prepare some of her problems. I'm pretty good reason that you know that guy, right, you've seen him in the shorts. So I don't know what his dream was. I don't know what my mother's dream was, you know, I don't know. I know some wrestlers that have had dreams. You've really seen them mature. I had a dream. I had a dream. You want to be a wrestler. What helped success that name was? You know, I was right. Realized it will. Realized it will. You can tell he was out for him. Yeah, I would have got a right to say for a job. So he played soccer and entertainment and movies and wrestling. That kind of stuff was a great life for him. Had to bend over a song.

Speaker 1:

For me, as educated as I am, I don't know how to finish school. I don't know if I would have gone in for it. I had to cook with my family, but I'm not sure what I would have done. I would have liked to know more about computers. I would have realized I could do what you do. I could take classes and what, but I have to all of a sudden, I can't be educated anymore. I don't think I. It sounds silly and you can be educated. Do women go to college when they're 70? I know that I still have a retention span anymore. I've been kicking the head for many times. I've been just. I would like that we would have learned that and been more educated.

Speaker 1:

Written work Close I became a president was Dan Coyle. Who's the vice president with time. He's from Kenya. Now he's from behind Kenya. I remember he told us he was a man in New York City at the mayor's office, a bank with Prudik Emberg and Phil Azudo and just McMahon had a bunch of rest of there at the table and I stayed a year as he was there in. The president was supposed to be there this was during the first Gulf War but the security reasons he couldn't make it, so they brought Coyle. So I introduced myself to Coyle.

Speaker 1:

I started wrestling in Indiana for people who don't know that, I'm just bumming this book. I introduced myself. He's like oh yeah, I remember you. I just kicked your butt all the time. I see I'm over public index here, but I love my style. I'm the president, vice president, I'm the president of. George Steinbrenner owns the Yankees for your people that live in a cave. I'm president of every small president of every sports. I'm president George Slaughter, who produced laughing and Real people and work with Muhammad Ali and Tristan action every day.

Speaker 1:

I know soupy sale. I know a lot of people. I know a lot of mechanics. I know janitors. I know every form of life. I could have never got that if I had to worry about the Boston Tea Party.

Speaker 1:

So this is my mother and I was lucky enough to educate myself, to educate what was out there. I'm telling people nothing with a school because you have to be. I didn't have an education again to you and there was no wrestling. I have been a guy that warled down the newbie girl, the bar I don't know where I've been. It's okay entertainment I thought it would be about radio talk show guys or something.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to be a disc jockey one time. I realized a long time ago I couldn't talk and read at the same time. I guess I could have warned that. So I was fortunate before you got to have me educated. You had to have proper training. You had to have insurance and health and sickness systems. Oh, I was a young kid with this and then you're gonna take him by himself, flying all over the place. I'm gonna probably get hurt. Oh, my arm didn't feel good. My back was so weak. You give it to your neck, you can't. Your wife gets cancer twice. I was telling all these bills that come in, you better have insurance, you better have some damn good stuff and you better think ahead about that. But this time you can't get it now. I don't want to get a job right now. I couldn't get a job. I'm 59 years old.

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