As I dust off the memories from my trove of wrestling experiences, I can't help but chuckle at the thought of sharing them with you. Prepare to be regaled with tales of heartache and hilarity from a life spent in the squared circle. Our journey begins with a candid exploration of the wrestling business's unseen grind, where I lay out the physical and emotional challenges that come with managing larger-than-life personalities. Hear from the insiders about the balance of maintaining a public image, the academic prowess that defies stereotypes, and the complexities of managing a career in an industry where your reputation can be your greatest asset or your most burdensome liability.
Shifting gears, we'll share some knee-slappers that highlight the lighter side of this high-octane world. From wardrobe malfunctions to muddy mishaps, these stories will give you a ringside seat to the unexpected twists that can turn a regular match into an unforgettable moment. Beyond the laughs, we pay homage to the unsung heroes—the referees—while reminiscing about well-earned accolades and the camaraderie that stitches the fabric of wrestling's unique tapestry. You'll come away with a newfound appreciation for the bonds and rivalries that aren't just part of the show, but the heartbeat of the community.
Finally, we tie it all together with a tale that's sure to tickle your funny bone—a button mishap leading to a sidesplitting run-in with the law. The narrative takes an even quirkier detour with a Chinese witch and the significance of a buttoned shirt. It's these moments of sheer absurdity that spice up the life of a wrestler, offering a glimpse into the hilarity that ensues when larger-than-life characters step out of the ring and into the real world. So, lace up your boots and join us for an episode that showcases the full spectrum of wrestling entertainment—where the pain is real, the laughs are hearty, and the stories are as unforgettable as a championship bout.
As I dust off the memories from my trove of wrestling experiences, I can't help but chuckle at the thought of sharing them with you. Prepare to be regaled with tales of heartache and hilarity from a life spent in the squared circle. Our journey begins with a candid exploration of the wrestling business's unseen grind, where I lay out the physical and emotional challenges that come with managing larger-than-life personalities. Hear from the insiders about the balance of maintaining a public image, the academic prowess that defies stereotypes, and the complexities of managing a career in an industry where your reputation can be your greatest asset or your most burdensome liability.
Shifting gears, we'll share some knee-slappers that highlight the lighter side of this high-octane world. From wardrobe malfunctions to muddy mishaps, these stories will give you a ringside seat to the unexpected twists that can turn a regular match into an unforgettable moment. Beyond the laughs, we pay homage to the unsung heroes—the referees—while reminiscing about well-earned accolades and the camaraderie that stitches the fabric of wrestling's unique tapestry. You'll come away with a newfound appreciation for the bonds and rivalries that aren't just part of the show, but the heartbeat of the community.
Finally, we tie it all together with a tale that's sure to tickle your funny bone—a button mishap leading to a sidesplitting run-in with the law. The narrative takes an even quirkier detour with a Chinese witch and the significance of a buttoned shirt. It's these moments of sheer absurdity that spice up the life of a wrestler, offering a glimpse into the hilarity that ensues when larger-than-life characters step out of the ring and into the real world. So, lace up your boots and join us for an episode that showcases the full spectrum of wrestling entertainment—where the pain is real, the laughs are hearty, and the stories are as unforgettable as a championship bout.
When you came back where you were the manager, you said you did a part to what? Ten days, yeah, it was free. What was your kind of feeling going into it?
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't want to do it, I was hitting and I had a deal that made me look like I wasn't going to marriage anymore and it was my deal. But I knew what I did. I would have it, would have it would dump on me. So I did it back After ten days. It hurt so bad I couldn't sleep at night and I never took pills or medication. I had to be in a scratch and whine, but other than that, no, I never took pre-chorus because it was in good. So the first night you did it, you just knew that this wasn't going to work. That's what he told me. I didn't want to do it anymore. I lost my heart for it and it was hurt. At the end of the night I just had to take a dump again, deployed in and so on. I had to take a dump again. I didn't want to work anymore. I didn't want to work anymore. I hurt and it wasn't funny anymore.
Speaker 1:It was getting hard to travel and the trips and everything and carrying all those bags. I had to carry wrestling, huge wrestling trunks and stuff in a wrestling jacket. I often had to carry three, a steel jacket I didn't want to be late and pants and shirts for fun time. Then I had to carry manager shoes which I just wouldn't read about. I used to call them my leepelegies and I had those and another pair of black pants, always wore black, so I could wipe them off with some of the shoes because they'd get dirty while we're coloring and I couldn't clean every day and they weren't nice. So I always wore black and I had to carry that and I had to bring clothes Because we were all streaking. We had to. I couldn't put the stuff through Because if it didn't come there I needed it. So, carrying all those bags and ran a car and wrestling on the floor and everything and trying to get stuff to fit, sure, you're making a hundred thousand dollars. Why is he whining?
Speaker 1:I know I'm sorry, but I've been in for so long and I've heard that you're so tired of it I just didn't want to do it anymore. So careful, kind of a blanket. Yeah, it's funny about this business when you want to do something, they won't let you do it, but when you don't want to do it, they'll make you do it. I don't want to be a champion. When you don't work like a accepted champion, I don't want to work. That time when you have to, I don't want to do it. But it's fair though You're the boss, you're playing. I have a choice.
Speaker 1:I can quit or say so I chose to stay and I'm glad I did. I have a wonderful education From just traveling and being around people at a break. A lot of rest of the people think of this bunch of guys who's noses running. They put their underwear on because they have a cold yellow in front running back.
Speaker 1:But no, johnny Keith, now it's Japan with the man I first fought with. I was the principal of the superintendent of Anyak High School, angela Parker. When I managed to graduate with the fall, she sent a record in the. She sent a record to do in Phillips. It's a 6,000-cent Phillips, 4 hours or something, and he's a legitimate, educated man. Ken Fattela was an Olympian. He went to the Brigham Youngs Brigham Youngs. He went to the University of Minnesota, brum Jones University of Minnesota and I went to the University of Nebraska with the top. I went to the Academy of Social Sciences with a sociology teacher. I go on and on and on. We're educated people, but it's not a bunch of, it's a little more, it's a little bit more like that and look like that. That's just your character. That's rude personality.
Speaker 1:You see on TV and that's it. But no, a lot of people with families and caring people. Sure, there's off the wall people and they trouble one of the Congressors. You know women know that that's his over with Ted Kennedy, but don't like those on. You know why he was a little longer? Because his ankles warm.
Speaker 2:You know why, willie.
Speaker 1:Smith is stubborn yeah, you don't want a girl who would call a police that night. Because he told her, if you call a cop, my uncle will drive you home. Have him separate, yeah, but no, there's not more scandal in doctors and lawyers, I'm telling you. I was telling my wife this even before the police anything happened. The toughest people in the world I know A rodeo cowboy and fireman, I'm used to that 300,000 pounds between your legs, I don't know how to hold on to it.
Speaker 1:Why and I mean firemen they're brothers, isn't they? You never do scandal about them, brides, or anything. No, there's a toughest man on the earth, and a lot of the rest is on. A lot of the rest is on.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But, yeah. But Mia, mia Macho man, there's one man that slapped a woman around her waist while chained, so bear that. But we would like to thank you for this family and not in prison in your privacy. That's a good man to me.
Speaker 1:It wasn't her that had married a woman that had a lot of tickets, you know whipped cream and owns a liquor store. It would raise the left arm on a bag, exactly. But he was married to a woman elsewhere. I'm not about ten years old, right, she was tough and Ray told me she wasn't that tough. She liked to have her on her knees, placed a weak bag in me. Did you hit her? She said no. She would tell me to come out from under the bed. It felt like a man.
Speaker 1:And how old were you, ray, when you first had your first romantic interlude? You thought I was six years old. I said six. Where did you go? I don't know how to judge, or remember I was five. That was telling me that he had the family for toys. Oh yeah, if you had a son you'd be able to.
Speaker 1:Ray would say, oh, I don't want to just like that, but wear a big horn. And I'd be like well, put two motors on. Yeah, he liked it. And then you could always hit things cheap from Ray. So you wanted a boat. I said I don't want to go to the beach A boat.
Speaker 1:If I had a boat, ray, it's $25,000. No one's got one like it. You're kidding. It's 800 miles an hour. Hey, come here, I'll give you 30 grand for that boat. He'd give you that 30 grand for a boat. We'll be late a couple months and Ray gets bored with it. So, ray, we want the boat and I'd give me 10. Yeah, you could always do that with Ray. He wouldn't take advantage of it. Ray didn't care. He didn't care. He cashed a check when I was in Milwaukee for $20,000. And Ray wants to keep the check. He's got a lot of cash Cash. What are you doing? That's a lot of cash. So he had a big little barrel of burden. He gave his man a silver and a silver. He said you want cash? He said yeah. He said, well, it's going to take me a little bit to campus.
Speaker 1:Okay, Then it comes back down to about an hour and a half. He took the thankful money. He's a hero, Ray, he's a talent. So Ray opens, it, takes a second mind goes one, two, three, it's all here. That was. It Could have been nine grand in the rain, I don't know. He was just trusting and doing okay, Ha ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:We were talking about earlier how Kersel's got a point that. But where did you help him at all? You mean help with his managing? Yeah, no, he's a professional. He's made me the manager. He knows how to work and uh.
Speaker 1:I don't know how that thing worked with him before. You know one thing that Roger's told me one time. He says don't ever give a guy your name, don't ever be the he-in-the-brothers, so that guy may not be as busy as you, he might go out and destroy it, he might be a pedophile, he might be a you don't know. He says don't ever stand outside the dress room looking for women or watching the matches. That's a lie. Do you think some after do that the only thing you see you want? Ha ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 2:I feel, okay.
Speaker 1:So, um, that was a good, you know, call you I had then, but I would look outside every now and then, yeah, but uh, but Kirk, no, he, he just, he just knew all the ways of managing and I would do it because he's been around it for so long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what was the play like?
Speaker 1:coming in. I mean, was he nervous? No further than natural for the beginning, I would eat the store from one area to another. He's now in the WWF, well, I remember when I first started with Rowan. He looked like he was up at the Fatties of Dusty and he had brown hair and uh.
Speaker 1:I punched him in the mouth one night in the uh Conalbert O'Tronman, minneapolis. He was a fan. They reached for me. I don't remember him but he told me stories. But he went to Charlotte. He got in a plane crash and then he could see any guys break down there. He had to put the belt behind him. Nobody had to hear about him. Hope it does. There's only got half of it. It was a convertible.
Speaker 1:The type of sound and Flair always wore the best clothes, always had the Rolexes. Wouldn't mind ripping those clothes apart on interviews and stuff. $100,000, I'm sure that Crack has complimented him for that. But the same woman that made his robe made my sequin jacket Olivia Walker, wrestling Tuesday's wife, johnny Walker, who's a very good friend of mine, and Olivia passed away and has overridden, lost to our industry, not just to who's a person that is that great of a seamstress, but as a good friend. And uh no, you could just see that he had the different colored boots and he had the robe and he had the butterflies trunks and he had different colors. This was the next gorgeous dress you could see and the torch went to him and the lady who was the world champion then it was Staz and Koniski and Dory Funk and Dory Funk and Briscoe had some of the greatest matches I've ever seen in my life and uh, but they were kind of blah, you know, as individuals, as characters on TV, as wrestlers. They were great and the player came out of the thing.
Speaker 1:He just was never nervous, he would accelerate everything he did. He was just. He always admired me and Steve and I appreciate for that. He always talked highly of me, ann Ray, and I can only talk about Rick like that. He's the most performer in here. He never laid on his ass, he never took a night off, he, he went out there and just watched him. He took the slams up the top robles, the press slams for anyone, just to get him over the mess. And after we ran out of it we had the same match in uh to produce the Kentucky's with the gun. A lot of guys were like, well, I want to take both of the top guys. You know then there's a short change in the people that are feeding you.
Speaker 2:I think.
Speaker 1:I mean I've buried my mother and my grandmother and I raised my daughter and fed my family with the money I'd made from the fans. So time to spoon. Well, it's very. Really took the last few years to be used by WAT that we have here. But we don't forget Rick had a good contrast with them and he didn't want to go back in the room and do all that. He knows if he could have gotten back in there. You know, if you want to go someplace and they know it they'll make a hurry on you.
Speaker 2:They'll take you when they want you.
Speaker 1:And uh, so he had a great deal there and they, uh, they will abuse you if they can, Because he was run now by people that don't know wrestling but Eric Bischoff, that have no respect for what this man, Rick for, had done or any of what he's done, no sense of history yeah.
Speaker 1:You know by history, four guys came over from England saying a song Ha ha, ha, ha ha. I guess you know who Pat O'Connor was, guys like that. And Pepper Gomez I mean Rick's that poem, pepper, he was sure you know He'd get in the car and go on a trip. I'd put telephone books in the front seat so he could sit down and look out the window. He'd get embarrassed and that Ha ha ha. So I used to call low spots. Already I never called high spots. Ha ha, ha ha.
Speaker 1:And then I, I, I, I, he'd shoot me and I'd get one tackle. He would drop down. I'd jump over him and then he'd get it again. So now I tell him, shoot me up and drop down. No, I'll shoot you up. You did me with a tackle, I'll drop down. He'd jump over me. So I'd hit him with a tackle, I would drop down. He'd come to jump over me. I'd raise up all the inch. Ha ha, ha ha. I'd catch his telephone trip. I'd speech people's hoes up higher. Ha ha, ha, ha ha. So we're working in a ring. One night in Portland, indiana, I had a fairground and the ring was at an angle, because it's not a track. Oh, okay. So one two means I hit you, you hit me. So I hit the backpip of the rope. I said one two would follow me. Bang. I hit him, he hit me. I took the bump out of the ring on the roadside I ran under the ice by a roll in. He runs around it and his nose is on the apron. He says very funny and me go.
Speaker 1:Ha, ha, ha, ha ha. I get back into the ring. We, we lock up. I back myself up into the high-tune buckle. I said I'm great, so he undergrads me out there, but he can't stop rolling you know he's going downhill.
Speaker 1:Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. So about a week later we're wrestling Dr Bigville Miller and Pepper Gomez, renee Goli and I, as a Richmond Indiana ballpark. It's a high fort, but noon it rained till 1158. Stop, sun comes out. Oh God, we're gonna get muddy and dirty Just because you're the last match and everybody's walking to the ring is gonna make the rain dirty. So we're getting a rain. I see a huge mud puddle up behind. Oh, the chairs. I built metal with metal. It was 6'6", 350. And that's your wrestler from the University of Ohio, very tough man. Um, pepper Gomez was Mr Junior, american in 1949. And we were at his left. So I told Pepper, I said take me out behind his chairs and nail me. I'll take a bump in the puddle. He says okay, amigo, but don't get me dirty. Ha ha, ha, ha ha. Now what could he have been sleeping in? Ha, ha, ha ha. Because you know why. There was only a hundred and twenty left to get to the Alamo.
Speaker 2:We already had one car.
Speaker 1:Ha ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 2:So he takes me out behind the puddle and he nails me.
Speaker 1:I take a bump in the puddle, I put my back and I turn on my stomach and I grab his ankles. Ha ha, ha ha. And I just push him together. Well, you can't walk. Ha ha, ha ha. I didn't say no, amigo.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:And he goes face down in the mud and he does. Now this puddle is about 15 by 15. So I have a room and he goes down the mud. Your first tendency is to dig yourself out. Ha ha, ha ha. So I just find his back. He just kind of get deeper and I get out of the mud. He gets up. He came to see it looks like. It looks like Buckwheat. Ha ha, ha ha. And he goes away, picks him up and slams him again in the mud. Ha, ha, ha ha. We went back in the ring and here's six foot six, three hundred and fifty pound big bill mirror. He goes out. Don't get me dirty. I said there's not a chance.
Speaker 1:We got counted out when we were back to Pepper and I and Gaway when the shall wish for bound hours. I had gravel where I didn't know I had places oh yeah, well, he met me. We were taking through a car wash when they covered Just when we went to the hot west, I pushed the window down in his face. I held down his jam again and the last thing coming in, I got soaked. Too bad I didn't care.
Speaker 2:What happened to?
Speaker 1:me, he didn't know A lever against jam. I wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 2:He's better.
Speaker 1:One thing that a small moment of summer slam in like 89, we were doing an interview. Gaway was interviewing a human rude for his upcoming match and his backdrop fell Well huh, and he said fuck it. He said, look, it's a fattu. He said fuck it. Yeah, but that was a pre-taped interview. There's no reason they staged it and they aired it. So when you saw it, they went oh no, there's three tapes. They put them all one on and I think that's how it went, because you were standing and they were waiting to go out and the time felt as rude as I am, I'm not sure if we were being interviewed or standing in there. Maybe we were supposed to do one.
Speaker 1:I think it was pre-taped and I kept it all one on. So when he reached because they went back, I think Shavani had been turdled doing play-like play. He couldn't hear Jets and he knew he was dying. I don't think Shavani ever worked with you. You worked summer slam in 89. Well, because we didn't like him to follow me to the film through the windows. No, tony said it was not good enough to. I mean, he always really freaked with everything happening. It was a little high for him. Well, it could have been a long day there you know, so then they went back and they did the regular interview.
Speaker 1:They got the right pay but it's funny, they had children on payback. No, but maybe it was. I don't know if you remember it was last and after it was live. So, here's a magazine from Milwaukee. You used to watch other films.
Speaker 2:Where would you?
Speaker 1:have that in there, so you were in the city. Yeah, I had to go to the police, you wanted to go to the police.
Speaker 1:You know the idea of having a car out in the rain. It's good if you go to an outside rain play. It makes you feel good when you're hurt. You know what I mean. There's some of the things that come with the idea of it. Yeah, I would like to look at it. Yeah, yeah, you see that old picture. You see the rest of the interviewer in the corner and you still find it. I like that. A few autographs here and there. Hey, yeah who's going to get his autograph? No, it's over. Call an early hanging number.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:Patel was an athlete, olympian, and he always, I guess, was catered to and he's a big, tough, strong guy and he was everybody else. He's had the personality. He just won't take any crap from anybody.
Speaker 1:He's real loud, boisterous and he caught the law of his own problems and if him and I were just there, we'd been friends a long time ago. You worked with an angle. When we came back, yeah, the jail house, yeah, the debate. We had the debate with them. Then we called I wanted to call Well, you just got out of the can, right? Yeah, I was going to have some like game shit on the table there and coffee. I was going to say, would you like some sticky buns? I mean, would you like some sticky buns? I'm going to say, don't do that. No, but he was a.
Speaker 1:It's funny, patel was like the bear. You just knew someone was strong. Patel would pick you up and you could. You could knew when a guy picked you up for a buggy time, you always put your hand here and you had a guy up. Patel would pick you up like a fork.
Speaker 1:He's a man, he's so powerful, he really was powerful. And they you know what I'm saying. He's the one with the gold that he had to banal all night Trying to protect his German girls, and they had Olympics. But you know, he was just a loud voice, just a head of temper, and some things give it to you, you know, and I guess you get pulled over by a cop. I mean, give me a ticket and we get out of here, barney Stuff, like that.
Speaker 1:You know they never made friends. So I heard he shat it. I was on trial, he did himself. Yeah, he called me to a booty. He was like I've found him along, we're going to be here. He called me to a booty. He asked where Barney was. He was just Mayberry. He never made friends like that. I heard he kept calling the judge a pal, maybe Shikibon Shikibon. The best thing about it is that you get him a chance or you get a very good one. He's not a character or a Korean or new character. I never know what his specials are, maybe because he's been there before and maybe because he respected him as an athlete. That's what he's been. Or probably you can make a dime off of him.
Speaker 1:I'll just go with a lighter Kind of like that too. I've either gone to boot camp or I'm sorry, Jeff, that would be the same camp yeah that would be a shame, like we're all going to boy too.
Speaker 1:But at night we were supposed to go back to Minneapolis and there was probably plenty of them. The pilots had to sit over the Milwaukee was the next night. They didn't have to go back, but they just found the road Like 10 days. The boys wanted to go home, so they went back to Waukesha and I wasn't there. I didn't have to go to Waukesha, I was the next night to Milwaukee and the fact these cars in San Lino got in the car. They came back with a bag of bulgur and the other boys had a slick hand and they went back home. So the trailer went over to McDonald's to get some McDonald's. He was sharing a room with Sa'ille and the McDonald's was closed. They came after 10. So the trailer says you see a hamburger, so out there they go, give you 20 bucks and we fire hamburgers and they give you 50 bucks and we go back to our policy as we throw away the food in camp. We don't sell anymore as McDonald's policies.
Speaker 1:So, I was sent back to the back. But, seriously, there was a 35-pound bull. We were sitting in the fridge car line and he went and asked them what was your $14,000? He said, shut the fuck up. He shut the fuck up and did 35-pound bull into the window. He went back across the street to the hall of the inn. He helped them and he went back to the car line and asked them what was your $14,000? A big blind man. He stayed over in the hotel in.
Speaker 2:Patera.
Speaker 1:How do you hide him? Top criminal out in the door. He told Patera he'd land to the door. Patera, he'd land to the door. He said can't Patera get to the door? He said no. He said okay, patera, he'd shut the door. They were back to the desk and they said he's not in that room. The manager said I just stopped him going to the room. They're lying to you, so they called for backup. I already got probable cause to go in, I think.
Speaker 1:Knock on the door again. Patera's hiding behind the door. We know he's in here. We want to talk to you. Patera had his police. He said go put your pants down, we'll talk to you. Patera said he wanted to shut the door. The cop put his foot in the door. So Patera had his hands through over his shoulder and it wouldn't shut from now on. The cop's busting to the room. A female cop jumped into Patera's back. She's now next to the picture on the wall. So the quietest you are. One cop grabs her and runs. Patera grabs the cop. Pretty good, one can't shut. That's what.
Speaker 1:Patera's having trouble in the street with police up around here. So they get Patera down and I forget they did do a handcuff. He found they'd taken to jail and Patera said yeah, I threw the thing, I was tired, I was drunk, I had taken a nasal mist, I was on something. Anything, it would have been a $500 fine. He did two years in prison for that. A female officer got hurt pretty bad and her dad was the coroner of the police. A police officer, yeah, but he had an air gun in his face. But before, all of your studies show you how you get unsure about a bunch of different sides. But someone in.
Speaker 1:there is the truth. Yeah, you know what's going to happen. What can you do with this?
Speaker 2:So I'm sorry, there's a lot of heroin in this this is for the everyone's trial or something like that.
Speaker 1:You never call them. Scrawl went, oakland went, not Guiding went. He couldn't do anything to help the guys. He called the judge a hell bit.
Speaker 2:What are you going to do?
Speaker 1:I was courted Mayberry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Saida was the only Japanese rifle I ever managed. Oh yeah, good, nice guy. The AWU-18 heats the disco for the title, like the waning days of the AWU-18 or something like that, like 89 or 90 or something like that, I don't know, it wasn't very long, it was like a lot of lives. What?
Speaker 2:the hell.
Speaker 1:What the hell that was all scam. Remember when he beat Nick? Yeah, that's when I hit him in the face. You tell you what Nick didn't tell me. To finish that night, he gave me another finish.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:So I get to the ring while he's sitting next to me to chill, while we never start out there. So I was with Nick Stamper around. I took the head of the stupid Chinese piece who had banged a guy's head and turned it off. And the guy kicks it off. They both thought that Only one guy raved to his shoulder. Oh, does it to heat up a referee room really, dan?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't beat Nick. I jump in the ring. I go to the ring to stop him. I work him While he comes up and grabs me. Sorry about the promoters, don't hit him. Don't hit him. So why would I hit him? Because Nick lost? I don't care, nick lost, you want him.
Speaker 2:I was just working.
Speaker 1:I saw Nick, you should have got a second rope. And he pulled himself up. He's gonna have to. He lost the belt, nick, so I must have hit my hand. Yeah, we're back to the dressing room.
Speaker 1:I said Nick quit working. He said well, that was a rip on you. I knew you were. You grabbed a second rope and knew where it was. That's the way you ribboned me for. He said and I know it was, but I'm totally not tired by the pressure. So he didn't, not even me. So that's when I did. And there was the reason I switched the belt to Nick was the auto was because whoever the champion is and I was with Disney World, he was whoever was the champion is to return to Austria. Right, okay, and the last champion who that man defeated is his manager. So Gero and his wife got a trip to Austria. Oh, I didn't go, I didn't go. I went on to the free trial, I guess. So it worked to me. So I need to tell you a sense. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to tell you a sense that was really insolvent. Did I tell you it's different? They told me it's different. That's Nick. I had no sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Nick, we'll go over. Nick told me it's different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was doing something. I'm still not over it. Yeah, it should be yeah.
Speaker 1:It's important, but so but how did we have the belt? Like a partner or something like that, one of the things that he does. He's like yeah, yeah, I don't know how we beat him For. Yeah, he was such an idiot. He was in Japan with us. He was from the other crew Over in this place called Rudy's Tokyo, the German belt.
Speaker 1:They're green big bones, me on the hand, I'm going to tell you pancakes, and Andrew's the lady to go there. So Andrew and Murdoch are new and I've been out of Madison. There's Roger and Robinson and I. Murdoch was so stupid. He ate so much. He ordered pancakes and put them on a chair next to him. Plates of food. So what I would do is, you know, a little tiny bit of paper, not the roll, the kind of sheets. Yeah, I would take about three or four of those every day and put them in a slip bag in his hat. After about two weeks, his hat is now sitting on his head like a new cuss double. He thinks he's getting weak. That's the guy we're dealing with. Yeah, yeah, that was all about reshorping.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm going to battle roll-up.
Speaker 1:Well, if they, you know, if they just put it on the ring, they'd know how to sneak it in. Yeah, I don't want to roll in and the battle will open. That's the best. Now they come to help them in the ring as they're trying to push them back out. They just push them back in. Oh, it's fine, so we can do nothing. Well, we've heard a lot of that. Free trip to Austria. I go.
Speaker 2:Are there any?
Speaker 1:other times where you went into a match thinking it would go one way and it went the other. Or was it the only time? Well, I've never had the things changed on me. I've seen them. In some towns they double clocked Big Murak. When I was in San Jose they had a match at the grocery and they told Blue, I was never second to fall, no, and where I didn't know it was 2F2. I didn't know it wasn't. Oh, he thought it was 2F2.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow. I mean, I think it was the same thing when you were at 2F2, when you went to remove them. The spider thing. Yeah, that's one of the strangest things I've ever seen, unless you had it involved but she was very mad when she came out of the ring with Wendy.
Speaker 1:Probably would have been a good one to be a westerner Just flying around. Yeah, blithard, I mean it's a big deal if you hang around the hospital or the courthouse. We didn't learn her doctorate. Yeah, exactly. No, I remember the match because I was doing an article on I think it was around, it was around the Brefford. It was like they were trying to do a wrestling conspiracy or something like that and it was one of them. Was that match? I remember talking to my phone an officer and I said help me out here, help me out with some conspiracies, and he mentioned that. So I had a tape of it, like an old Best of WWF tape. It looks weird. I mean it's, it's George Stettenews. And he said, yeah, she was supposed to go over and she didn't. Well, I've been with the courthouse for a bit. Hey, yeah, but I don't understand that either. I just I.
Speaker 1:If I'm Vince and that's my character and my bed you can do what I tell you. And if he had his contract, he had creative control when Vince shouldn't have signed it then. But Vince changed his things to see himself like anybody else because of us and those they can't. They wouldn't have got the human candidate, or you know? I guess Vince was concerned about losing him candidate. I'm not saying he had the greatest life. If you're in this business for anything more than money, you're a fool. That's it. So who was that dropping? Who? Those two Other than I know something like that. I tried to replicate it. Well, the Hulk, they the Hulk and the Rusell. I think it is going to court.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, well, hulk and the Silly, yeah, he still got lost without standing. Rusell's got nothing. Don't look like he had only came there. I had no appearance on TV, show up in jeans and New York City T-shirt, you know. Yeah, it looked like an executive ahead of a company, exactly. Of course he was there. He would have the time like go shop there, have a white belt on him. Remember he had a whole big mission. He was okay. Well, he started WCW. He was more of a student, so everything was a vanity.
Speaker 1:He came on on air character and he was a boss, you know. So yeah, we want to be just like man. I had to treat him. Yeah Soon. He told me one day he thought we're going to put the stake in there, I'm going to put the stake in there so that man's heart can pull out and do it again. Well, now that stake is still located in the body, but it's in a different position now. Okay, I was in WCW, yeah, uh, we can get some.
Speaker 2:They're talking about like the. Let me do the sample chapter. Talk about the fuzzy. Cute, but story.
Speaker 1:Any other like uh, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Okay, uh, what do you want to do with the cute but story?
Speaker 1:any other like uh uh tales from the road, or doing working with On Time Time, or working on the Bobbie Jesus show, or Okay, um, because what I want to do is, you know, I want to keep to a chronology of that. Who do you want to talk to on that? Uh, everything, talk about it. Maybe anecdotes from the road, like something along the lines that fuzzy, cute little story here. Things are there, you know. Uh, not going to ruin anybody's life. I think that the fans will. Ultimately, what I want the fans to do, I'll turn them off. I'm going to pick up in a Bismarck, not the Cullen one.
Speaker 1:In eight or eight days I blew up Crusher and Gruntall and Larry and me and myself and Jeff and the um, I don't think Greg was wrestling yet. Very good, I think that was it and maybe about ten guys. So make your face on the list. One together, that's the way it was in the state of the hills right together. We're going to call you guys. We're back and forth. You can yell that. You probably get. I really wouldn't get fired because they only kept a small crew, but, um, you'd be mad at yourself if you want that. So I don't think the hotel on that in Bismarck.
Speaker 1:So all of this was the secret. One time we were out in the hall and we're going down and seeing it coming up, so we don't see each other in the hall and we started talking and some of them playing with Kribbage and everything, and I guess some fans came out for some people and they saw all of us together in the hall. So now the people. Our first thought was they're going to say, oh, they're all hanging together, right? So for some reason we all started fighting. We had about thirty guys in the hall fighting each other with working punches. Now he crushed it with a Kribbage board and he took a bobby and the one we never took was Bismarck and had the hall of the budgetel.
Speaker 1:We were on the third floor fighting and everything. We turned out others gentlemen there. Maybe I'm a little bit of an idiot, but I've been nodding my head from the Kribbage board and one guy's knee hurts and while I'm back there he was using a brush up and I was just sort of a fan. But you had your stuff to make you laugh. We thought we were keeping him from being smart. Yeah, but he was there. But we were just fighting in the hall and you just had to make your own fun of the road because I'm forgetting he didn't go to work. We drove in those days until four o'clock in the afternoon and you got to building a seven. We were down at the latest eleven.
Speaker 2:We all liked to play.
Speaker 1:And that's what you did. You didn't start out, like most guys do, six or seven in the evening and they're done by eleven. No, we started out eleven, twelve and you had to make your own fun. You had to be careful where you went because you wouldn't want to borrow as well, and the guys all thought it was fake and they thought they could beat you. They always had a problem, especially me being a manager, and we both were hiding behind people. All my life people knew they had trouble with um Hogan, but everyone knew they could beat me. So it was always that problem.
Speaker 1:You could go in and sell junk. Sometimes they could even get up to fight me. You could go up to church, you could bathe and make fun of them and everything. Oh wait, well, just give me another one minute, I'll give him another one. He'd buy a good rest. Well, he's sad, he didn't know, but the latest gets so drunk he'd have to carry it on. He'd remember, woke up next morning, tell him he had a hard time with it and we just stuff like that, um.
Speaker 2:I think uh.
Speaker 1:The guys never did anything dangerous like they didn't. Well, one guy did, andre. It was his bar in Atlanta called uh, it was the wrestling one's bar and not Johnny Walker too, it was wrestling one it was Tim Woods and Andre's in the bar one night there and there's a girl in there.
Speaker 1:she's quite well endowed. So Andre says let me see your what we call fund eggs. So she took her girl off and waited to him and said if you go across the street and put it on that horse, go across the street. There's a bar called the Crystal Club and on the roof of the bar there's a wooden horse like you see outside of a country wrestling show Three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1:Here's the guy, seven foot five and he's got the cook out there with a ladder taken up the roof, puts the wire up against the horse and he's puttin' his bra on a horse At three o'clock in the morning on Stewart Avenue, atlanta. The horse is down off the thing, goes back in the bar. She's gone. She's gone. But the horse across the street looked good. But guys, did you see the thing like that?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I remember while driving the car on that car I saw Gene Kelsky who was a sniker and we couldn't see a leg. We were driving on the Chicago, the snowy, and he's showing you how you can go 100 miles an hour in the fog, in the same of 20, you see this thing, that's right, but you can't stop the same. Can you see the auspices of the children on the dash? Children over. Please, please, don't do this.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That is used to pull a maple on you guys. It's called a maple and these guys would come into territory and the girls that hung around were called rats. We were the rats, yeah. So we found the most attractive rat, which was hard but we found one and we were tellin' them, the guys you know, the single guy you know. They said she looked pretty hot number there so he'd make friends with her and she'd play along with us. She was maybe that queen. So they made an appointment. Maybe she'd go to her place that night.
Speaker 1:So, they'd go up to her place. Maybe she'd make some drinks. She said why don't you go in and maybe make yourself comfortable? And all of a sudden you hear the front door.
Speaker 2:But she'd go oh no, when are you?
Speaker 1:to the home and she went and chased my husband. She went out the window. Now the guys who'd crawl out the window and the husband and the community had a blank guy, He'd shoot. She'd fall in the floor. Now this guy's out the window, he's just running and maybe he's got his pants tucked under his arm and maybe he's got one pair of our guys on, but he's running.
Speaker 1:This isn't what the way to the blank is, though. This guy is gone and he'll come back to work the next day, and then we're all down to half an hour, and I'm not mad about it. Some guys would just laugh about it. It's called a mable. Yeah, that's the end of the age.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Who do you ride by?
Speaker 2:trains.
Speaker 1:Japan, you do. I didn't hear too many stories on trains. There's mostly cars. In Paris I never rode the bus much. I was there coming on the bus a couple of times from O'Hare to.
Speaker 2:Milwaukee.
Speaker 1:I took a train at the Kixie from the US couple of times. It was easy. I'd rather travel by little TV when the challenge is fully to me. Hurt my people, hurt me though. Musical group, you know, the gentry house, you know, and then so guys would do the wait for openings to do stuff with other guys and kind of the comparison of how it's done. 69. I'll win the Dragonite. I'd rather have to go out with it.
Speaker 2:I suppose I have to get that. Kara Tawalski hey, here's the guy from Milwaukee.
Speaker 1:Now here's the devil's dude Time for a landing. Oh, I can't let the best one in there Strike Trump. Yeah, marko, marko's got a big ass. He's good-wanted. But Jay, you're calling the big ass fat bumblebee. He's got a winkle and they broke him in the business Bruiser did because he used to rest a lot at some speedway in Indianapolis. He was a fan, he couldn't jump in the ring.
Speaker 1:Secretary to fight him, so they made him a referee. You work at the LRT. Yeah, he was a good referee too. Now he's very good. I give every year now at the College of Allian the Bobby Hinton Award. I give it to referees. Oh, I like to know how to thank them. When you come back from the ring I always say thank you to the guy who worked with me. You never say thank you to the referee until later and those guys never get nothing. So I give it a. Whatever. You rest here. I give it to Joey. I'm going to give it to Mickey Jay, I'm going to give it to Kajasty in different ways, and it's just a sort of a Bobby Hinton Award for outstanding W-O-R-K and what. He's working with a heck of a babyface to give a song work. I give it to Joey. Oh yeah, okay, getting the rent. If you could laugh at it, let's have him the master of it.
Speaker 1:If it wasn't for me, he could work. Oh yeah, if you couldn't get my money, he could set up a price for ten of these games. I doubt us to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I might be right.
Speaker 1:First vacation. Like Moscow said, anything for the money Ain't no one to leave him anyway, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1:First day of Calhoun was a real jerk. Oh really, yeah, he would have been around at home all day. He would have been in the territory he just came through. That's always come from one territory to the next and see if they could get work. That's the next town. Calhoun is in the town tonight. We're a foot guy. We sit on a pound, as he says. About six foot two Big beard Come from some place in Arkansas.
Speaker 1:They both were all Ivy neighbors, you know. So we're in a battle, we're in a battle, we're in a battle. We're in a battle, we're in a battle. We were in a battle and we fought each other and we got nothing to say. We fought each other, we fought each other in the battle.
Speaker 1:So I went in the other room one night. He hit me in the back of my head with his knuckles. I told him it was a timekeeper. I went there by the timekeeper. I see Calhoun in the corner. I mentioned he's barefoot. I picked up the timekeeper's hammer and I smashed those ten little piggies little piggies like you wouldn't believe. Well, he looks like one of those lucha libres leaving the map. I never saw a big guy move like that, you know, screaming, I threw the hammer in the ring and walked away, Got him back. I got him back, Bam bam, he moved. I was always on part of writing for PWA. You got to have him because they're they still protect the business they still do to the day and it's fun to kind of make up an interview or or extend an angle, or I don't know a bit. That's the first thing you guys should talk about with Ray Morgan. Who is your? Who is your favorite as far as all the people you manage?
Speaker 1:Well um well, jack Bland's and I talk every couple months, uh, very, very rascally. I talk a couple times a year Red Bastion and I talk a couple times a year Crusher and I talk once a year Favorite guy I managed Um, that crew of Hanning was just a great town so it was flaring on. But uh, had the most fun with Probably have to be probably Rashkin on this. Yeah, yeah, cause I was younger. I mean, he was new to me. I was so so much fun. I was in the 70s, I was in my 20s, it was fun. We were all in cars driving together and laughing. Well, I was a bit of a rascanite right One night we were. One night we were driving to the train and the circus goes by us and it's got a truck with two gear abs with their heads sticking out of the top of them, some kind of cages as we drive by.
Speaker 1:Rashkin says I guess it's a tag tonight.
Speaker 2:Ha, ha, ha, ha ha, so that was a fun day.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking to all about your talk about the ribs you've done and everything Um any others. I think I'll stick it up to all this, the voting, and all the chapters, the, the, the shoe polish on the phone or the, you know, oh, yeah, I hear it was Um, well, like the mud puddle was going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that stuff. Um, how's the midget span?
Speaker 1:it's up on the high hook To the fridge. You have to play with the train and polish yeah, yeah, yeah, joe Dean, don, joe Dean, the spoiler and the Super's order. You were glad he fell asleep on the plane. I'd be shaving cream and each one he'd wake up, take him off, rub his eyes, put him back on and leave the plane. Never take a shoe, never take that off, never put me over. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Speaker 1:Uh, in Japan we had this guy in gypsy Joe, terrified of snakes. So we used to stand outside the hotel in the back, because you walk around the back of the hotel and go down there to Alley. There was a place called Rabira steakhouse. We had like six stools and the guy would always take a picture on the wall. All the boys would go in there. Hey, I'm really over, I'd see the troopers over there. They came down, the next to it went up. Ha ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 1:So hardy, hardy, race and I would hang up. We'd hang up in the alley and wake up in gypsy Joe and come by and we'd take a branch and then we'd jump and jam it down his shirt and yell snake. He'd just seem to try to get the shirt off. He'd rip his clothes and everything and he'd go ring. One night gypsy Joe left when I got in Japan He'd go ahead and rock on the guy and he just took him over sitting down and we'd walk by the ring and took the tag roll and threw it on him and yell snake. You should never see a man run like that, ha ha ha. And the rock's father, rocky Johnson, is terrified of snakes and a few of them mentioned. He didn't like to hear that Jake the snake robber is in the building. And another guy, bob Armstrong, was scared of snakes. Armstrong can't see. He has big, big glasses.
Speaker 1:Remember the cars had handles on doors he had his shoelace once around the door about midnight. He goes out back to open up his car door and he feels some touching. I just felt snakes. He screams and throws his hands up and throws his keys away. I didn't mind trying to hold it. Ha ha ha. He had another set, thank God, ha ha ha, yeah, ha ha ha.
Speaker 1:I was like I didn't mention the truck. Yeah, okay, um, I was sitting in a door one night and he said shoot right open. So I was in a box and he said the place is called the um, the twilight club, all country and western Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a little bouncer. He said hey, you got a button in your shirt. I really said nothing. Keep thinking. I said I said you got a button in your shirt, nothing. Who's the manager? I said you got a button in your shirt. He said there's nothing. He called the cops. Here comes Barney, he goes there all by himself. So you got a button in your shirt. I really said nothing. He called for backup. There's 20 cops in the box, Ha ha ha. So I was like you got a button in your shirt. I really said nothing. He said okay, stand up. Well, hunter, he stands up. And there was stops, yeah. And the cop watched him and got out of that chair and just keeps watching him and watching him and watching him and he told us there were cops and he says isn't this rotten here? Ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 2:Hey, where'd him go? There's nothing.
Speaker 1:Ha ha ha. 20 cops from the button. Well, yeah, he went out of town. He's got one day he had a shirt on. He's a ferocious big guy. Well, chinese witches come. She says, oh, button in your shirt. Button in your shirt. I don't even know where the shirt goes. Button in your shirt. He says if I can't show you my chest, then I will show you my ass. Ha ha ha. And you move in the whole Chinese restaurant. Ha ha ha. Now think of the guy that works for H&R Block going in and out of the way. Hey, freddie, me and Marge last night were out at one farm and this guy came in another. Exaggerated.
Speaker 1:He's 1830, boy, 12,000 pounds getting mooned. Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh Ha, ha ha.