47. Embracing the Whole Self: Kennyetta Watkins on Transforming Life Through Self-Love and Resilience

Have you ever wondered how embracing your entire self—flaws and all—could transform your life? Kennyetta Watkins, the dynamic clinician behind Relentless Counseling, graced our studio with her presence and insights, making for a riveting session that promises to reshape your understanding of self-love, resilience, and personal growth. She shares her personal journey and how it fuels her mission to guide others toward a life filled with acceptance and empowerment. As we unpack the complexities of self-esteem and the anchor of spirituality in our daily lives, Kenyatta's vibrant energy will leave you inspired to align more deeply with your core values.

Crafting a narrative of strength and determination was a theme that ran deep in our conversation with Kennyetta, particularly through the practice of journaling. Imagine transforming your inner chaos into a roadmap for clarity and connection with the divine. Our discussion veers into the sanctuary that writing provides, becoming a dialogue with a higher power that Kennyettacherishes. She reveals how the act of putting pen to paper is not merely a form of self-expression but a relentless pursuit of understanding oneself, a journey that could be as transformative for you as it has been for her and the many lives she touches through her practice.

It's time to challenge the notion that self-care is selfish and to embrace the power of setting boundaries—for love, for relationships, for a fulfilling life. Kenyatta's approach to fostering strong personal connections and nurturing emotional wellbeing is a guiding light, especially in an era marred by burnout and instant gratification. As we explore the balancing act of personal commitment and community engagement, the essence of Relentless Counseling comes alive, offering a beacon of hope and encouragement. Her story, alongside the resources she shares through social media and her podcast, Relentless Thursday's, exemplify the unyielding commitment to spread positivity and serve as a testament to the power of self-love and resilience in our lives.

 https://relentlesscounseling.com/

Transcript

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Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 0:41

Welcome back, amazing listeners The TeleWellness Hub podcast. I'm Marta Hamilton, your host, and today I'm speaking with Kenyatta Watkins and I'm so excited because we get to talk about self resiliency and self esteem a little bit of self love. Kenyatta is a clinician practicing out of Georgia and Texas and what's really great is I found her online and introduced her to be a part of this podcast. She's the practice owner of relentless counseling and I love that. She talks about aligning with your purpose, being on a journey to be the best self, with undeniable self love. So I thought I really want to talk about this with this amazing clinician and I wanted this episode to air in February. We think about, like Valentine's Day and love. I thought let's infuse this month with some self love. So, , thank you so much for joining us today.

Kennyetta Watkins: 1:40

Yes, thank you for having me so glad to be here.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 1:44

I want to start with asking the question I ask everybody who comes on this podcast you know, obviously you're a very well qualified clinician with background and ability to see lots of clients in two different states. Why do you do the wellness work that you do?

Kennyetta Watkins: 2:01

It's kind of like why not do the work you all do, right? It's kind of like more of life happens when we're little kids. We like, oh, I can't wait till I'm turned 16. Because you know, sweet 16,. Then we can't wait till we turn 20. We can't wait till we turn 30, all these different ages.

Kennyetta Watkins: 2:18

And then you get there and it's not exactly what you thought and you don't really have a specific roadmap to get there, or what happens when you fail, what happens when you mistake, and how do you deal with that? Growing up and being resilient and being relentless about it, mind you, relentless counseling, right. So what I've learned through my own life experiences is that to be able to accept the pieces of the puzzle that we have, that comes with trial and error, that comes with just pain or just things like, oh, I wish that didn't happen. But learning how to turn it into something amazing, turn something great. And I had an experience in my life that was life and death. And it was because of that situation, because of that pain and that depressed moment that I was in led me to where I'm at today. And now I'm learning because of what I do and the work that I do.

Kennyetta Watkins: 3:14

I've learned that I'm not where I am today, despite my hardships and my issues. I'm here because of it, because it was just a piece of the puzzle and it taught me how to teach other people, how to see them as their whole self, how do you align to your best self and how do you love yourself unconditionally? It's conditionally. We can't take the bad parts of ourselves, so how do I love even the bad parts that help shape and mold me to be a better person, to continue to push and that's what led me to be in this wellness world and mental health and helping people, not just thinking about the physical health, but also your mental health, because they go hand in hand together and I always, in my practice, I always add that spiritual side too, because these are the three basic and main foundations when one is off, it's definitely going to throw the other two off.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 4:08

Yeah, that's so beautiful, I think. So often I hear people say, you know, oh, therapists they you know my therapist must have it all together or have a certain image of what kind of life they've led or experienced. Their answers that they have in their toolbox for their own personal life. And I love your openness and willing to share so vulnerably about you know your own pain being able to be translated into something that has driven your work and is able to relate with others, even though experiences might be different. There's something about that human connection of being able to relate, to understand, to connect, and I love that. You said how to help people continue to push through because it's work. You know it's, it's, it's really work. And you mentioned that spirituality piece. Talk to talk to me a little bit about that, about how you incorporate that in your work.

Kennyetta Watkins: 5:04

So spirituality. A lot of times when people think of spirituality, they think of religion or they think of oh, it's just specifically whether it's Catholic, whether it's Buddhism or it's really. Where do you hold your value? Spirituality is what is the core of you, what actually there's not necessarily seen on the outside, but internally, what keeps you going, what keeps you moving? Of course, our higher power. We look at that and so I take whatever my clients are going through and whatever their spirituality is. Let's work with that. Where do your values sit?

Kennyetta Watkins: 5:37

Are these your parents values or have you developed your own values, being able to I don't want to say question, but lack of a better word question why do we do the things we do? Why do I get upset in these ways? Or why is it important for me to do these things? Like I love journaling. Journaling is one of the best things. That's right. I feel like it's therapy all in itself when you really look at it.

Kennyetta Watkins: 6:04

And I know when I don't journal, if I go maybe three days or even more without journaling, naturally, and I know immediately my mood changes when I feel like something's off, something's not right or I'm a little more irritated on my okay. Well, where is this coming from? What did I miss? I was like, wait a minute, I'm disconnected from myself. I'm disconnected something that comes very naturally to me, that when it's not, it just throws everything off and kind of with our spirituality something that we don't need to think about, we just do and it's where our values are holding. So I connect that with the mental health and the physical health as well, because we need all three and I'm a firm believer that our spiritual foundation is one of the main important foundations. And a lot of times we are fighting with the internal battle with ourselves and not necessarily with other people like the cliche what's the word we say? I'm my worst enemy.

Kennyetta Watkins: 6:59

We are our worst enemies. And how do I stop fighting against myself and learn how to work with myself, work with the things that go against, with whatever I'm trying to align to, with what season that we might be in? So I bring that into my work. I bring that into my personal life. I like to say I practice what I preach and being able to write. How do I walk this? If I'm going to tell my clients to do something, I need to make sure that I can do it too, and being able to play in those ways. And I found it's very powerful when you add that spirit. A lot of us clinicians don't always add it, we think it's separate, but when you add it, I feel my clients become a whole lot more vulnerable, they're more open, they feel more safe because they can bring their whole selves into the session and they don't have to be apologetic about it.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 7:49

Yeah, I love that. And you mentioned the values that are in their spirituality and their spiritual life. I mean, that's such a core aspect of who we are and why we do things right, the purpose, like you mentioned the why, why being really intentional and looking at those values. So I love that. How does that look like in terms of like therapy or journaling? I kind of wanted to let me actually let me back up, because you mentioned journaling. There are so many types of journaling, approaches to journaling, types of journals, like if you Google or you look up on Pinterest like journal. I mean, there are so many things that people see when you look up journal and journaling from your perspective, just personally. And also I know there's a lot of research on the effects of journaling. What do you recommend for someone who's been curious about looking at themselves and turning in words through journaling? But maybe they're like, oh you know, I need to find the right way or the right method or the right journal. What would you say to them?

Kennyetta Watkins: 8:55

I would say and I'm a, I have a problem going to stores all by myself, oh, that looks cute, that fits me. Oh, that word fits to me. And I'm not keen on guided journals because I feel like, okay, you're not really being on now, you're filtering it. But I'll say for before beginners, that might be the best way to start, to kind of get that started. But with journaling, what I love about and what's helpful for me personally, it's a conversation with myself and when I write it down it becomes tangible, it's out of my head is I'm able to release it and I'm able to see my true, my true thoughts, my true self.

Kennyetta Watkins: 9:33

One thing about writing in a journal you can't lie to yourself, can't? You can't fake it, and it's that brutally honest with. Okay, maybe I'm angry about something or someone. And then I get to journal and I realized, hmm, that anger was not really what I was feeling. What I was feeling was scared, what I feeling was embarrassed, I was feeling was hurt or betrayed. And then we know anger is a defense mechanism that our body naturally has. That's what came out, that's how it manifests itself. But I'm scared, I'm worried. I'm able to see that in my writing and see that in my journal and process those feelings. I'm not holding it in no more Now it's released, but journaling helps you get a clear picture of what's my next step.

Kennyetta Watkins: 10:22

It helps you kind of compartmentalize things, say, okay, where is my next step, where is my next step? So I like to say there's different types of journal. Sometimes we journal our feelings, sometimes we journal gratitude. Sometimes we journal whatever you want to journal about or whatever the plan is. I love to journal and how I write my journal is I write my journals out to God. It's literally my conversation, my one-on-one with God.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 10:46

I love that.

Kennyetta Watkins: 10:49

And I talk to him about it. So when it's off, I also feel like wait a minute. I'm disconnected with myself, but I'm also disconnected with my higher power and if I believe, truly believe, that he's with me, he'll never leave me nor forsake me. It also helps me when I have those bad days, because already this is our conversations and sometimes I will go back and I'll read maybe an entry I did maybe a year ago or six months ago, and it's a measurable thing to know. All right, how far have you come, Where's your growth. Sometimes I'll read and I'm like was that me? Did?

Kennyetta Watkins: 11:21

I write that, oh, that was me. That's stranger, yes, that's me, but I think, all right. I look back now and I'm like I started out. Maybe I start off. I hate this life, I hate what I'm doing, I hate being an adult. Adulthood sucks.

Kennyetta Watkins: 11:34

And then I end up like, oh, this is starting to a gratitude. Now I'm able to pinpoint what I'm actually grateful for and pinpoint okay, where do I, where is it where I need the most work and being able to really dive into it. And journaling helps with that, to get your true picture of your voice and be able to like hey, I don't have to hold this in. It's kind of like the best friend or therapist when your therapist is not there. I got to remind my clients of therapy companion journal that comes when they, when they work with me and and they get to kind of write down their, their highlights of hey, what was talked about, how did you feel about this, what came up? So that way they can continue to process things that they are, that they are working on and what they're working through.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 12:18

I love that therapy companion journal and the idea of your journal being a conversation to God or your higher power. I really love that because I've I've heard so often you know, when your connection with your higher power, your vertical connection, is off, like it is with everyone that exists and surrounds around you too and I could see, even with yourself, like not being able to kind of look inwards and I think that's awesome.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 12:47

I really love those tips for for the conversation, for the journals and to have a therapy companion journal and listening, thinking about doing counseling like bringing along a journal for remembering your takeaways of of of your conversations and what you talk about and everything that happens in between your sessions with your, with your counselor. You know, something that really stood out to me when I saw your bio and your background was the name of your counseling practice relentless. I just love that. That, that name and that, that phrase. I just loved it.

Kennyetta Watkins: 13:26

You know, when I first started, you know looking for like, hey, what I'm going to call my practice, I always want it to do. When I first got into the field, I was okay, I want to have my own practice, I want to do what I need to do, but eventually have my own practice. And then, when it got time, like it's actually happening, what should I call it? And I was happened to be and I'm a very spiritual person but I was happened to be listening to a song. I don't forget the name of the song now, but in the song the lady talks about how God continues to find us in valleys. He finds us even when there's lies or when just no matter what we're doing, he finds us, he loves us. And she said in the word relentless in the song and I was like, hmm. And I was like, if God loves me that much that he finds me anywhere I'm at, then why can I love myself in that same way? And how can I do that? How can I be relentless for myself and my path and my journey, whatever walks of life that I end up going through? How can I do that? And I was like, oh well, this is no doubt going to be the name relentless counseling, because it's not about what happens to us, it's not how we get up, how do we handle it, how do we respond? Are we always reacting to things or are we responding? And I think the difference to reacting. Responding is that impulse, taking time to wait a minute. What do I need? What is actually serving me to be able to move forward in my next journey of being my best self or getting to whatever success is that people identify success as If I'm reacting, then I'm not pausing, I'm not thinking about my best interests or the best interests of others or how I connect with others. So I want to learn how to respond when things happen, and in order to do that, I've got to get up. In order to do that, I've got to recognize and expect that it's not going to always be easy. Being happy, feeling joy and having mental wellness and all these things. We think that, oh, it's just simple and it's just as easy as continued work. And when we're on our healing process, it is not as easy as people think.

Kennyetta Watkins: 15:33

And I tell people all the time I say look at therapy, it is not butterfly rainbows. All the time we're going to do some tough work and it's kind of like going to the gym. I look at going to the gym like death. I swear it feels like death going to the gym and I get in there like, oh, I haven't used this muscle, I've never used these muscles, I haven't worked out my mind. It's painful, but when I'm done, even though I feel like I'm dying, but it's also oh, I feel good, I want to go back again. Let's try this again. And the more I go back, the better I become, the more. It's not as hard and I've privileged that to therapy because that's what it feels like I'm going to a complete stranger telling me about myself or being that mirror and me talking, being my true self. It's going to be hard at first.

Kennyetta Watkins: 16:25

I always tell people, even myself I like to say I'm a therapist with a therapist, and when I have a client, I tell my clients to play like hey, out the therapy. What are you doing? How are you coping? Because we've got to get back to our baseline. We have to. We've brought a whole lot of things on our healing journey, but how do we get back?

Kennyetta Watkins: 16:43

How do we respond better to hurtful or painful situations? Or how do we respond better when we've got to go up the hill sometime. But it's not going to always be a valley where we're just walking through and being intentional with that being able to. How do we shine even when we don't feel like we want to shine? And that's the heart about being relentless. You're not going to always want to get up, but it's easier to get up. It's easier. I saw this thing on Instagram and it had this picture, this caption, of going up the hill is at hard choices. Then it was like going through but you kept hitting a bit walls. It was hard life. I don't want to hard life. I'd rather make the hard decisions to go up that hill than to have all these barriers I got to go through and it's just being intentional and being relentless and that's getting back up, being OK with not being OK sometimes.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 17:42

How do? How? It's funny that you mentioned this earlier today, so it'll be an episode before this. I interviewed someone who wrote a book called Get Up, and that's exactly what they talk about you got to get up and show up.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 17:54

Yeah, the timing is just incredible. Yeah, get up. You got to get up and keep going. Fail forward is what they mentioned. His name is Mark, but I think this idea of relentlessness, I love that and I love how you got the name and how it ties to your practice and your spirituality and you're talking about resiliency and this is an area of expertise for you, of passion. How can we be relentless when it comes to self-love and being resilient in these trials? I think as humans, we want comfort and in the health and wellness space there can be a lot of feel good, be happy. But therapy work is hard, it can be messy. Growth is painful, Like physically when we're growing up and we're stretching out. We get those pains. We're growing pains and emotional, mental, physical health. Sometimes growth is painful. So how can you help others learn how to be relentless when it comes to their own journey with self-love and resiliency?

Kennyetta Watkins: 19:10

When we talk about resiliency and we talk about self-love, we definitely it's a lot of self-work, but it's also making sure you're connected to the right things and the right people. Our circle is very, very highly important Because I could have a lot of self-love If I'm around my main group of people do not love themselves or insecure. That is going to feed into me and before I know it, I'm doubting myself everywhere I go. Or it's like, huh, dude, should I do this or do I really love myself? And it's like we gotta make sure we're around the right people and know what we need to be able to know how can our support support us? So that's the one way I think of being resilient when we talk about self-love, and another one you already mentioned is getting uncomfortable. We can't do the same things over and over again, but want something different, and I think that shows up in our self-love and how we connect with in relationships. Whether we're in marriages now, because the divorce rates are ridiculously high, all because we're not connecting properly, all because we're not really showing love to ourselves. We don't have nothing to do with our partners really about how do we show up for ourselves, how do we pour into ourselves and, I think, being intentional and being honest with ourselves. We have all been on autopilot before COVID. I think it ramped up after COVID, but we've been on autopilot but we're not acknowledging that we're burnt out emotionally, spiritually and physically, not just at work or with our families and just inflation and all these different things. We are in a burnout in all three areas, our main areas of our lives. How do we continue to pour into ourselves? That's where I think, when we focus on that being intentional, consistent, disciplined and being I forgot the word I was trying to say but those three things being able to do that it's going to help us build that self-love.

Kennyetta Watkins: 21:18

Being able to be like you know what I don't have to people, please other people, because I'm expecting something that I'm not even verbally stating. So being able to set boundaries, know what those boundaries are, and I think a big thing when we talk about boundary work, especially resilience and self-love that boundaries is not for the other person, they are for ourselves. That is an internal thing, because I said boundaries all day long. The person don't care about me, they're not going to care about that boundary, but it's from my perspective. It's like hey, walk like a duck, crack like a duck. If I don't like a duck, I need to stay away from that duck. So let me move from the duck. The duck will move from me because like, hey, I need you to, but they're not going to expect me to be like, cool, I got to make moves. I have to adjust. I can't stay and do the same thing because now I'm comfortable with you, because I'm comfortable with you of being with this duck. The duck has now learned how to manipulate me. The adult learned how to, but she ain't going to never change. She ain't going to. I can treat her any kind of way, because this is what she's teaching me how I can treat her. But if I move from the duck, I switch something up. The duck can't do what he used to do or she used to do. Oh, okay. So now it's different.

Kennyetta Watkins: 22:32

The boundaries about ourselves when we do our healing work and our self-love is when we talk about forgiveness. I think that's under that category too. Forgiveness is not for the other person, it's for ourselves. It is not something that could be done one time. Okay, I'll forgive you and keep moving. It's us taking our hand off the rope that we've tied around our hand, the other person, are the thing that is hard to forgive. They don't put it on a tree, they haven't moved on with their life. They are doing everything they can, maybe insecure, they don't love themselves, but it's not about them, it's about us, and I think with our self-love journey we have to remember we can't focus on the other person, we can't focus on what we need. How am I pouring into myself? Because if I'm pouring into myself and I'm full, I'm guaranteed to connect and pour into other people. Naturally, because I'm going to be in an overflow situation now because I'm taking care of myself, just like the whole. We use this metaphor all the time. You probably use it in your practice on a plane.

Kennyetta Watkins: 23:34

You can't put the option to mask on other people. You've got to put on yourself first, everything in life. You've got to make sure we're taken care of in order to take care of other people. And if I love myself enough and I'm resilient with all the things that I go through in the seasons, then I can teach other people how to love, how to love me, how to love themselves, because I'm the example, not to be our own examples.

Kennyetta Watkins: 24:02

What I hate when I see on social media is relationship, those why, why your relationship is not your relationship and what that person brings out of them. Your person may not do that. So every relationship is different. What works for them works for them, but that may not work for you. You've got to know your own goal, your own love, what you need, what works for you and aligning yourself to the not aligning yourself, but aligning to that person, because they're going to be aligned to their goals and their thing is you're aligned and y'all match. It won't even be an option or a question.

Kennyetta Watkins: 24:40

But being able to love ourselves and be unconditional with that is being able to be consistent. It's being able to show empathy to ourselves. We can show empathy to others, we can be in the trenches with others, but when it comes to ourselves, we run. We do not want to be in those trenches, in those dark spaces, but sometimes we have to learn how to face the emotions that we have versus running away from them. We forget that. We hope the power and our resilience is in the strength of.

Kennyetta Watkins: 25:09

Let me face the hard things that I'm doing or I'm going through right now, and knowing that it is temporary, like when we have suicidal phase, my main thing I say is suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. We want to feel good and feel better. We want that instant gratification as the society we live in now. But everything's not going to be instant. We just got to figure out how temporary we want this and that is a choice we can make. No one else can make this. Even suicide, anxiety, depression, none of the things to make that choice. We're making the choice. We just got to take back our power and that's where our resilience and self-love is. Getting into that war zone and making sure we have the right tools, making sure we're armored up to be able to fight the things that come against us, because it's guaranteed things are going to come against us.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 25:57

Yeah, oh, my gosh what a powerful way to describe it that our resiliency is power, that self-love is power and I think you're the first person that I've talked to on this podcast that brings up the importance of self-love in terms of who surrounds you and really looking at that and the boundaries that we place, and being intentional about how we teach others to treat us and being the model based on how we pour into ourselves.

Kennyetta Watkins: 26:30

Yes, and it's not just with people, it's with what we listen to. What do we allow in our system? I am very particular of what I follow on Instagram and Facebook please don't do social media as I have but I'm very particular about the two things that I follow, what the algorithm, what they show me. I'm not the first person. I can care less about Trump, I can care less about Biden and all these different things, but I try to make sure I'm pouring positive things into me. I may listen to a sermon, I may listen to a positive thing or someone singing a song about just life or how to do things. For whatever reason, I've gotten on this baby kick, so now I'm seeing all the babies, but I try to be fun light.

Kennyetta Watkins: 27:10

If there is things of people fighting or just cursing, I try not to put that. I'm not about to sit and watch that. What is that doing for me? How is that going to help me? Or, if I'm watching it, my first question myself okay, Keita, what are you going to do about it? What is the solution? I know there was. What's the actor? He was in the news. Whole big court case for abuse of his girlfriend.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 27:35

He got convicted. Oh yeah, Johnny Depp.

Kennyetta Watkins: 27:37

No, not Johnny well, that one too but John Mayer, oh really. But he was a Marvel character for one of the you know, like a book upcoming, and so he was saying these things and it triggered me and so I wanted to. I'm like, oh, this is stupid, I'm ready to call my sister and I'm ready to start my own gossip and just continue to spread this story. And I had to stop myself so I can't even notice me. Do you know him personally? How are you helping? I don't. Yeah, are you adding to whatever pain this man is going through, or are you actually being a light and doing something different, just like Michael Jackson, start with the man in the mirror right? And so I was like you know what? I'm not going to call my sister and go on this rant about his man and how I think he is. No, I'm going to do it if I'm, especially if I say I'm a spiritual person and what my higher power is. So I was like you know what? I'm just going to pray. So I stopped right there in that moment, stopped myself, because I was like I'm about to go down this whole rabbit hole because of what's feeding, feeding me right now, and it's feeding my own trigger. I'm responsible for my triggers or whatever past a trauma that I've been through. I'm responsible for how I respond to it. So if I'm responsible, I'm going to respond to it, and I got to do something different. I had to be intentional with what I'm doing because I could let this man ruin my whole day off of just his own opinion in his own life. I mean, I have no contact with whatsoever, but how can I make a difference for myself and maybe for the world around me, in just a small space? It's like you know what, instead of talking about this man that I don't know and I don't know the truth, only those two people know the truth. Pray for his healing. Whatever the truth is, I just pray that it works out, that he finds his peace, that he find his, his truth and he works on that, and be intentional with the change that he wants in his life.

Kennyetta Watkins: 29:25

I continue to spread, and so we've got to be mindful of what we put into our system, even to the point of the music we listen to. I myself, I listen to like rap or metal and I'm like gosh. Why am I angry? I'm just pissed off and I don't even know why I'm pissed. I'm like, oh, I've been listening to his music all day long. Or if I'm listening to sad music constantly, constantly, like, oh, I'm sad, I'm feeling sometimes I have to be mindful of what I'm putting into my body, even with the food that we eat.

Kennyetta Watkins: 29:54

If you look at your bank statements I'm pretty sure all of us, even our listeners, look at our bank statements. This is how much money we spend on food that it's not an investment. It comes right out and then like, okay, wait a minute, I'm putting all this, but I've been at McDonald's every other day. Or I've been, okay, I've been drinking this alcohol. I was like, okay, I'm just going to call again. Like, okay, I don't feel good about myself, I don't love myself because we're feeding things that aren't taking care of our body, mind, body and spirit. That's why they're so connected, because they feed off each other and what we put in our body how we take care of our body it's also how we take care of our mind is how we take care of our spirituality. And if we're not taking care of those things, we can't love ourselves, we can't be resilient, we can't get back up when we fall down because we got too much on us, that we wasn't meant to be on us in the first place.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 30:46

So beautiful to think about the things that we can control, about what we're in our environment. I hadn't even thought about that too, just like the boundaries we place within ourselves that we can control, and I love that. When you said, looking at how we feed our bodies is how we feed our mind and our soul too, I just think that's beautiful. I want to know how can people connect with you? Share, like especially people in Georgia and Texas for people to connect with you. What's the best way?

Kennyetta Watkins: 31:14

So the best way to connect with me is through my website, relentlesscounselingcom. I also have social media page under Relentless Counseling on Facebook and Instagram and I put things up there biweekly because I'm a very, very busy person, so sometimes I do not have the time to put up content like I used to, but I do have a lot of stuff on there. I give positive feedback and positive things on there. I do always respond to anyone who messages me, so leave me a message. I also have a podcast as well. You can find me on Relentless Thursday's podcast. We're on Apple and all the major ones and we talk about the Relentless journey. We talk about a lot of things. I do get raw and vulnerable with my own story on my podcast as well, so that's where we at you can always reach me by my email at kwitkins at RelentlessCounselingcom Awesome.

Marta Hamilton (TeleWellness Hub): 32:05

Thank you so much for being a light in this world. I'm excited to follow you and just have some positivity be part of my algorithm in my social media, but thank you so much for being a part of our Voluntary journey today.

Kennyetta Watkins: 32:20

Guys, thank you for having me. This has been a blast and got out of my comfort zone today, so very excited. Yes, thank you.