Persistence in Prayer with Kylie Hein

#111 12 Steps to Sacred with Gabriel Garnica

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Have you ever thought that sainthood was just for the super holy, the mystics, the martyrs, or the people who just have more time than you do? Because let's be honest, time feels scarce.

What if holiness isn't out of reach, but right in front of you? Today, we're flipping the script on perfectionism and reclaiming the truth that sanctity is not about getting it all right. It's about getting back up and keeping your eyes on Jesus.

In this episode of Persistence in Prayer, I am joined by Gabriel Garnica, a college professor of Law, Catholic writer, speaker, columnist, and author of 12 Steps to Sacred. He wants to show you that becoming a saint should be your number one on your list of "Yes, I can do that."

We have a conversation about holiness found in the messiness of everyday life—from laundry to missed appointments—and how true sanctity is about persistence, humility, and getting back up after you fall.

With wisdom from saints like St. Thérèse and St. Bernadette, personal stories, and analogies, this episode is a guide to letting go of unhealthy expectations, detaching from worldly measures of success, and hearing God’s unique call in your life.

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