Can people change? In Charles Dickens novels they can, as figures such as Scrooge and Pip illustrate. But how do they change to the extent that Scrooge changes? and in so short a space of time? To discuss this, the podcast has invited in Professor Jody Clarke, who has published articles exploring the significance of Charles Dickens for clinicians and theologians. Jody speaks about how Scrooge from “A Christmas Carol” and a number of characters from “Great Expectations” manifest the consequences of trauma. With interventions from other characters figures such as Scrooge and Pip are able to achieve a level of healing and transformation. Jody suggests that such interventions can serve as models for clinicians and ministers. This discussion is sure to fascinate fans of Dickens as well as those interested in healing and transformation.