101 - Has This Joke Been Made Before? (Return to Silent Hill)

This week the boys are back to take a trip down to the foggy lands of Silent Hill for the second first time. Here to discuss Nurses, Pyramid Heads, and bad video game movie adaptations with Return to Silent Hill (2026)

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:43

Isaac. Will you please recount for those the good listener at home what just happened? Derek, I need you to take it take it down a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 0:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 0:50

Just quieter because I'm quieter. Because this we're on a hill today, and this hill is it's a quiet hill. You just did like the biggest like no-no of improv.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

It's a quiet hill.

SPEAKER_07 0:59

Where I was trying to do a bit, and then you just ignored it and kept going forward.

SPEAKER_08 1:04

No, it's in addition to your bit. We're gonna come back to it. So so listener at home, right here on the quiet hill. We've we had a wonderful, we had a wonderful uh turn of events happen as soon as we pushed record and we're waiting for our intro to go through. Um Derek uh spilled most of his drink just onto the desk in front of us, and then I jokingly told him, Derek, Derek, slurp it up, because we don't have any paper towels near us. There's no way to to rectify this mess that's currently sitting right in front of us. I slurp it. Derek, but Derek moves his microphone, puts his whole body up, and like tips over like one of those like little like woodpecker wooden bird things that dips into the water kind of thing. You know that you know what I'm talking about? But I do. But then he slurped up like a like a molecule of this shit. He just barely, um, barely got some back. I'm sorry that I called you out for not doing improv. No, that's okay. Derek, so tell me about what's in front of you right now. Don't play, don't play with it, Derek. Don't play in the mess.

SPEAKER_07 1:56

Guys, it has been so long.

SPEAKER_08 1:58

Derek, you have a child, you don't have to act like one.

SPEAKER_07 2:01

Unless, speaking of which, I gotta check her, dude. I gotta look at the camera. Yeah, Derek's got a live feed now. He's always got eyes on baby. Don't worry, she looks dead, which means she's fine.

SPEAKER_08 2:09

That's how babies work. This is a normal thing for babies. It's actually so true. Um, okay, yeah, we're on a quiet hill. We're on quiet hill. Welcome to Quiet Hill, everybody. Welcome back to the the to the show. My name is Derek, and that's Oh, fuck. God. You said that genuinely. How long has it been? That wasn't even a bit. That was. I genuinely called myself your name. Uh that's what the movie was all about. Call me by your name. It's about two wonderful pals who have a podcast where they talk about bad horror movies. That's what it was about. That's what I'm saying. I never watched it. I watched the movie. I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

If you've seen the movie, you know what I'm fucking talking about. Timothy Chalamet loving peaches and talking about horror on a podcast. Oh my god, he was too young in that movie. My name is Isaac. That was the point. He's so young in the movie. Who are you? I'm Derek, and Timothy Chalamet was too young in that movie.

SPEAKER_08 2:55

This is that was horrible. This is there it is. Now we're back. Now we're back. This is our podcast where we do our best. Wait. Okay, I got this. Yeah, get it.

SPEAKER_07 3:06

Our best? We do our best to do our duty to God in our country and review bad horror movies. Yeah, yes. But that doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_08 3:17

I suppose yeah, all of the above. Yes, all of this is correct. Yes, this is our review podcast. No, I don't think episode. I don't know if we were a pro-America podcast. We might be. I think we're a horror review podcast first and foremost.

SPEAKER_06 3:33

Oh, Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_08 3:34

But yeah, we're here to ask you the important question of why would you bother paying so much money to go to go to your local movie theater and see a movie that's a remake of another thing, of another a sequel to a movie that existed back in the 2000s. Yeah. When you could just sit at home and maybe watch, you know, you could play uh either watch a playthrough of the Silent Hill 2 remake and have a much better time. So we're why would you want to do this?

SPEAKER_07 3:56

We watched Resident Evil with Miljovovich. No, no, no, no. Wish we did, wish we did do that. Resident Evil by Zack Kregger.

SPEAKER_08 4:04

You're wish I will be seated. Tell you what, I'm actually really looking forward to that one. Yeah, bro. Can we talk on that for a second? Let's do it. Let's pull our microphone. When they announced that they were doing that, I was like, okay, Zach Kregger, he made weapons. Yep. And it was great. And Barbarian. And Barbarian. Never won't be able to do it. And why does Kid Gino? Yes, exactly. And so he did this. And so now it's like, okay, now he gets his blank check movie where it's like, hey, man, what make what you want. What do you want to make? And he goes, I want to make Resident Evil.

SPEAKER_07 4:29

Because he just like had a script for it.

SPEAKER_08 4:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 4:31

That's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_08 4:32

And I was just like, okay, fine, whatever. First, I thought it wasn't ever gonna get made. I'm like, this is a video game movie, it's gonna get stuck in production hell. Yeah. It's never gonna come to see the light of day. Now it's happening and also looks really good. It looks great.

SPEAKER_07 4:46

I love the people that are like, this doesn't look like Wiggly and Evil. I'm like, guys, did you watch Barbarian? That was the best Resident Evil movie that's ever been made. That was not a Resident Evil movie. Even a resident movie.

SPEAKER_08 4:57

But also, I love the I love his approach to this because he's like, it's taking a place during, I want to say Resident Evil 2, is that right? Yes. It takes place during the events of that, but it's like its own separate plot line that is just happening at the same time as the events of Resident Evil 2. So good. And that's such a genius way to do what you want, but also kind of avoid the shitty fanboys who are like, um, this never happened in the games. This is unrealistic for blah blah blah. Don't try to recreate it. He's like, fuck you guys, I'm just gonna do this. Also, did you watch the video of him describing like him writing an elf copy of his movie, like of a script? You're welcome. Yes. It's so good, actually. So basically, when giving advice on like script writing for movies to anybody who's like an aspiring writer, he says, your very first draft of this movie. Imagine you have hired an elf. There is an elf for hire, you paid him like $2. You say, Hey dude, here's what I need. Write the script. It doesn't have to be good. I'm never gonna show this version of the script to anybody else. Okay, but it's just for the sake of getting the script written, and now it's done, and now I can go back and edit things and add more stuff here. And it's like it doesn't matter how it looks, so long as you got the entirety of the script out. You have a whole thing here. That's the elf copy. Yeah. And so he says he does that. Like literally with weapons with Resident Evil, he's like, he's like, here's Resident Evil elf copy. He's like, No, this will never see the light of day. But it's solely so you don't get stuck in your own head and you don't get stuck in the whole, like, it has to be perfect. Draft one. No, I paid an elf to write this script, and it's garbage.

SPEAKER_07 6:23

That's so good. That's genius. He's such a funny, goofy guy.

SPEAKER_08 6:26

He's so good, but also so smart. Unfortunately, we didn't watch his movie. We did not watch a good what I assume will be a good video game adaptation of a movie. No.

SPEAKER_07 6:35

I'm hoping. I mean, I he's got a he's two for two, two for two right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 6:38

My hopes are my hopes are up there. I'm I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_07 6:40

No, instead, what we watched was Return to Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_08 6:43

Return to Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 6:45

Isaac, uh, quick elevator pitch for how familiar you are with Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_08 6:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Silent Hill, it's like there's this place and it's like really foggy. I meant literally like your personal experience. My personal experience.

SPEAKER_05 6:58

Don't explain Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_08 6:59

I'm telling you, that's what I know about it. Oh. This is all I know. I remember when I was much too young to watch movies like this. I did watch the like the first 2000 Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 7:08

The 2006 one.

SPEAKER_08 7:09

And honestly, I remember it being pretty good. I very specifically remember there being a shot where there's like this building and there's a woman on these stairs leading up to it, and Pyramid Head is walking up. He picks her up by one hand and by the other hand just completely rips off her skin. What skins the woman in one fell swoop, just one swell hoop, huh? You know that sound?

SPEAKER_07 7:31

The Yeah, exactly. He de-gloved her.

SPEAKER_08 7:34

He de-gloved her whole body.

SPEAKER_07 7:36

Is Milo Jovovich in that movie?

SPEAKER_08 7:38

No, she's not in every video game adaptation of the 2000s. Is she?

SPEAKER_07 7:43

No. It's just a girl who looks like her.

SPEAKER_08 7:45

Okay, she's a Mia Jovovich.

SPEAKER_07 7:47

It's uh Rhada Mitchell, and she looks a lot like Milo Jovovich, not to be rude. Just really piggybacking like that. I mean, they're both beautiful women.

SPEAKER_08 7:55

All women are beautiful, Derek. Here in the year of our lord 2026. Women are beautiful. Down with America, up with women.

SPEAKER_07 8:04

Down with America, up with women. Down with not down with women. Up with women. Up with women. It's like up with kids, but up with women. Up with women. Shut up, Derek. That's our. Sean Bean is in the original Silent Hill movie. Okay. Yes. Yes, he is. Does he die? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_08 8:18

He probably does. That bitch dies in everything he's a part of.

SPEAKER_07 8:20

I'm gonna be honest, man. This movie has really bad reviews. We should go watch it.

SPEAKER_08 8:22

Really?

SPEAKER_07 8:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 8:24

What's its rotten tomato score? I don't know. Pull it up. Now I am curious.

SPEAKER_07 8:27

I'm looking at a different website.

SPEAKER_08 8:28

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me just.

SPEAKER_07 8:30

You've got a computer.

SPEAKER_08 8:31

I have a computer.

SPEAKER_07 8:32

I'm being so mean to you today. I don't know why. I think it's because we haven't done a podcast in like 18 years.

SPEAKER_08 8:38

It's because you you present me with like microaggressions throughout every episode, but now we need macro aggressions because it's been fucking two months since we recorded this.

SPEAKER_07 8:47

Life got insane.

SPEAKER_08 8:48

Uh it has a 34%. It is absolutely podcastable.

SPEAKER_07 8:51

That yeah, we're doing it. Let's do it. I want to watch Silent Hill for sure.

SPEAKER_08 8:55

Get it? Yeah. Oh. Return to Silent Hill. I will I want to willingly return to the original Silent Hill. I would never return to Return to Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 9:01

You know, it's really funny you say that because Return to Silent Hill was directed by Christoph Gans, who also directed Silent Hill 2026.

SPEAKER_08 9:10

This is true.

SPEAKER_07 9:11

Same guy.

SPEAKER_08 9:12

How do you how? Same guy? Well, he discovered AI. It's just like, oh my god. It's just like a movie that pisses me off as the latest iteration of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And it's literally like it's Toby Hooper who made the original. He was a part of it. He helped out with the movie, and it sucked such. Is it him?

SPEAKER_03 9:31

It's such dog shit.

SPEAKER_08 9:32

He didn't directly. He didn't direct it, but he produced it. He helped it, yeah. I think he he was on board. I think he helped write it actually.

SPEAKER_07 9:37

Well, Curry Barker's got the next one.

SPEAKER_08 9:39

Curry Barker's got the next one. Has this has obsession come out between the last episode and this one?

SPEAKER_07 9:46

We have not gushed. Dude, we haven't gushed about obsession. We should do it. That's a horror book.

SPEAKER_08 9:50

We've missed you guys. It's been a minute.

SPEAKER_07 9:52

It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_08 9:53

I haven't had a platform to talk about the good shit out there as well. God damn obsession.

SPEAKER_07 9:57

Dude, everyone needs to see obsession right now.

SPEAKER_08 9:58

I don't want to tip my hand, but I don't think I'll be able to hide it. It's like Obsession is currently like movie of the year. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 10:05

It's just the only movie. So I've I have two lists every year. I have a horror list and anything list. Yeah. And it's it's number one in my horror list. But Nirvana the Band of the Show, the movie, has to be a good thing. Another good watch. Another great watch. My number one movie of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It has to be. Because that movie changed me fundamentally as a person. But Obsession, very close second, and my number one horror.

SPEAKER_08 10:26

So incredible, so incredible. I truly, it was one of those where like we saw it, and then instantly after leaving the theater, I'm like, every other horror movie is gonna have have to fight so hard to dethrone this movie. That's true. Like I just can't see it happening with anything that is currently set to release. There's a lot of stuff I'm looking forward to.

SPEAKER_07 10:43

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_08 10:43

But like, how are you gonna beat that? Because it's so goddamn.

SPEAKER_07 10:47

I kind of wish Werewolf wasn't coming out this year because Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:50

Is it still do you say werewolf? It's yes, I think so. Because he's always the Wolf. Have we considered the fact that maybe Robert Eggers doesn't know how to spell? I don't think he does. Have we thought, because we we got the Vitch? That's not, it's Witch, Robert. Robert nose for Otto? Who's Otto, and why are we giving him his nose? It's a vampire. Come on, just just say the real word. In the werewolf, this guy doesn't know how to spell anything, and that's okay. He makes great movies. He loves he loves to get some really period accurate movies.

SPEAKER_07 11:21

They spelled lighthouse rug, too.

SPEAKER_08 11:23

Spell lighthouse rug. Okay, I have two examples. So I don't have a lot of.

SPEAKER_07 11:29

He just doesn't know what a W A. He just hates double. He hates Ws. He's like, Robert Eggers hates women.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

That's what it is.

SPEAKER_07 11:36

I mean Robert. In some instances of his films, you could make the argument that he doesn't like women.

SPEAKER_08 11:43

They're certainly set in periods that are not women friendly, I would argue. They are not well-loved time periods. Period inherently is not women friendly. You're so right. Up with women. Up with women.

SPEAKER_07 11:56

Up with women, down with wolves. We're ostracizing like 60% of our listener page. Oh God, I'm so sorry. We love you women.

SPEAKER_08 12:02

And also Robert Eggers. Great movies. Yeah, he's good stuff. Speaking of wolves. Yes. I was just gonna say, fuck Robert Eggers for releasing his movies around Christmas. Because we're sitting here trying to trying to articulate our list of top 10 for the year. And then he's like, how about a release date of literally Christmas, like six days before the end of the year? Like, Robert, we got deadlines we're trying to make, and I don't know how to have to wait for your fucking werewolf movie that does look like it's gonna kick ass. It does look like it's gonna kick ass. I really, I really want him to have a really fucked up werewolf design, and I think he will.

SPEAKER_07 12:31

Um, yeah, based on what we've seen in the trailer so far, I'm feeling pretty good.

SPEAKER_08 12:35

Yeah, I think it's gonna be normal.

SPEAKER_07 12:36

Also, it's just like it's him. Didn't we watch this movie, Necronomicon Book of the Dead?

SPEAKER_08 12:41

We sure did, yeah. Why are you looking at Necronomicon?

SPEAKER_07 12:44

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 12:45

I liked that one.

SPEAKER_07 12:46

I did too, but like I'm looking at the images of it and I cannot remember it at all. I'm like, this seems so distantly familiar. The reason I bring that up is uh the drowned, the first segment, was directed by Christoph Gantz, who is uh the director of Return to Silent Hill, which we're talking about today. He also directed a Beauty and the Beast um live action. Okay. Uh not the not the singing one, not the Emma Watson one. No, no, no, no. The Emma Thompson one. Eminem Eminem one. The Eminem musical Beauty and the Beast. Oh my gosh. Yo, Gaston, get down here. That was my Eminem impression. Thank you. That's really good. I like that. I don't know. What you gassed up on Gaston?

SPEAKER_08 13:27

Okay, gassed up on Gaston?

SPEAKER_07 13:29

Eating 12 eggs a day like a bit of a bitch getting ready to lay.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

Like a bit of a bitch getting ready to lay.

SPEAKER_07 13:40

Go outside, you get your tray, you put the eggs on the tray, you eat up that tray. What are you doing you're eating that tray? You're such a fucking idiot, Gaston.

SPEAKER_08 13:48

Now we're now we're now we're veering a little into Lynn Manuel Miranda.

SPEAKER_05 13:54

Please stand up. Please stand up.

SPEAKER_07 13:58

The Gaston, I knew he would eat 12 eggs a day. You're only eating 11. Mic drop. This was so cringy. Can we cut it?

SPEAKER_08 14:05

It's all in there. It's all staying. We cannot cut a scene.

SPEAKER_07 14:08

I haven't done enough, I haven't done enough rap improv. Rimprov. I've done it. I don't do very many rim jobs.

SPEAKER_08 14:14

Damn it, you beat me to it.

unknown 14:16

Fuck.

SPEAKER_07 14:16

Improv. BB.

SPEAKER_08 14:18

Beep me to the punch. Damn it.

SPEAKER_07 14:19

Uh okay. The last thing I want to talk about, this director. Yes. Christoph Gans. Christoph Gaines.

SPEAKER_08 14:24

Or like Christoph Gaines with those muscles like Gaston.

SPEAKER_07 14:30

No one fucks like Gaston. No one goes to the supermarket like Gaston. You know he's there? He's buying so many eggs. What is this voice? Why am I like some guy from Chicago?

SPEAKER_08 14:39

They're like, we need eggs, Gaston. Please, you do not need to glutton yourself over all of the eggs in the village.

SPEAKER_07 14:46

What's the difference between Lynn Manroe Miranda and Eminem?

SPEAKER_08 14:49

Um, race, I think, first of all. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 14:51

Well, that's the obvious one. You didn't have to go with the obvious one. Sorry, sorry. There's a lot more nuanced differences between them. I'm sorry. Like the style of rap that they do. Okay. One of them goes, uh, what is one of the raps? Uh do guns and ships, real quick.

SPEAKER_08 15:06

Oh, guns and ships. That's Lynn Manuel.

SPEAKER_07 15:09

You can do it. I know you gotta you don't want to cringe yourself out.

SPEAKER_08 15:12

You we've had enough cringe per per minute on this podcast already.

SPEAKER_07 15:16

Yeah, everybody turned us off. They're like, what? They should have stayed in hiatus. God.

SPEAKER_08 15:21

God, that was horrible. Like it's uh they lost it. They lost it, yeah. That was horrible, fell off.

SPEAKER_05 15:27

Remember the first era when they were back on the freaking Yeti mic three years ago?

SPEAKER_08 15:33

I listened to those the other day, and it's so it's why were we doing that to ourselves? We had a guest and we were sharing a microphone between the three. We're a lot better now, I promise. Yeah, seriously.

SPEAKER_07 15:44

Uh okay, the last thing I want to talk about is he also directed a movie called Brotherhood of the Wolf, which is actually a critically acclaimed horror movie that I've wanted to see for a really, really long time.

SPEAKER_08 15:52

Really, brother?

SPEAKER_07 15:53

Because everyone says it's one fantastic horror movie, but also there's a lot of theories that L that Bloodborne was raced on this movie. That was Bloodborne was force you.

SPEAKER_08 16:05

Holy shit, yeah, it's literally just the dude from Bloodborne.

SPEAKER_07 16:08

Is this the hunter from Bloodborne? John Bloodborne. It's literally like a brotherhood of like killers, and that's like the whole uh the hunters or this totally looks bloodborne ass. Yeah, dude. I want to see this movie with that.

SPEAKER_08 16:21

I want to watch this movie. Let's do it right now. All right. Let's turn it off.

SPEAKER_07 16:24

It's got to be it back. Where are you watching?

SPEAKER_08 16:26

74%. 74% are Ron Tomatoes.

SPEAKER_07 16:28

Well, yeah, and the Bloodborne community, which is my my people. They go crazy for it. I burped. All right, Isaac. Is that all you got about Christoph Gans? I'm sorry. I listened to the Nirvana of the band, the movie, the show, the movie podcast. And the entire time the uh Matt Matt Matt Johnson Matt Johnson was eating a pizza and he ate like 10 slices of pizza, and he was just like really close to the mic, and everybody the whole time was like, Are you gonna keep eating that pizza? Because it's like bad audio. As he just like mouth sounds into the microphone. God, I would go crazy. But it's like he's doing it in the way Matt Johnson does. And anyway, I just want to see Matt Johnson. Kind of funny. I think he's close to my same age. Tom Cruise was born to gay. Born to gay? Tom Cruise, born to gay. Look at this man run. He was born to gay. So, return to Silent Hill is a reimagining slash. I I hate to call it a direct adaptation of the video game Silent Hill 2 because it it's hard to call it that because of reasons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 17:35

So hold on. So I gave my little elevator pitch about how I know very little to nothing about Silent Hill. What about you? I've never played any of the games either.

SPEAKER_07 17:42

I hadn't, I hadn't either. I had played a little bit of Silent Hill 1 forever ago at my friend's house, but that was it. That was all that I did. I was more of a good one.

SPEAKER_08 17:49

Your mother would never let you play a Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 17:51

Uh no, she wouldn't.

SPEAKER_08 17:53

You wouldn't Silent A Hill. Yo, it's me, Gaston and I've been. God damn it. This can't be our returning bit, is rapping about gas. How did it how did we get there?

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Because he has a because he has a he has a he has a movie. Because he has a uh Beauty of the Beast movie.

SPEAKER_08 18:14

I completely lost how we got to rapping Gaston.

SPEAKER_07 18:18

You'll hear it later and you'll be like, that's really funny. So Return to Silent Hill is a Silent Hill 2 movie adaptation. That's a good way to say it. Yes. The Rotten Tomatoes score for this movie are 18% for the critics. And 24% for the audience. So we've got a pretty uh pretty similar consensus here. Uh Letterbox is at 1.4, IMDB is at 4. You had a budget. Four. Yeah. That's really low for IMDB, actually. I guess. Most of our movies on IMDB are like six or seven or eight. Is six, seven still a thing? No. We've been in we've been it's gone. Yeah, we've been gone for months.

SPEAKER_08 18:54

Even if it isn't, I'm gonna say it's gone because I hate it.

SPEAKER_07 18:59

Anyway, so like I the IMDB score is like four, which it for our movies is actually pretty low. That's a low one. Um normally, because like with IMDB, anyone can review a movie on IMDb. So like the scores fluctuate because the people who are like family and friends with the movie creators usually rate it really, really high. I see, I see. You will see on like things like Sharknado and stuff like that that the scores are higher than you would probably expect. I don't know why I just got on my high horse. High horse? High horse?

SPEAKER_08 19:27

Oh two-month hiatus, come back with a high horse? I think it's time.

SPEAKER_06 19:31

Time, everybody.

SPEAKER_08 19:33

Welcome back, high horse.

SPEAKER_06 19:34

I'm high horse Palomino.

SPEAKER_08 19:35

So we've been on a hiatus and probably been on a really hiatus, being a high horse and everything.

SPEAKER_06 19:41

Last time you saw me, which I think was about a year and a half ago.

SPEAKER_08 19:44

Yeah, yeah, it's been ages.

SPEAKER_06 19:45

Uh, I got replaced with an actual baby in the house.

SPEAKER_08 19:49

Is that what happened? Was High Horse was the pre-baby?

SPEAKER_06 19:52

It was pre-baby. Uh-huh. And I've I've gone and I'm clean now, and I'm the pastor of a church in the pasture. Get it?

SPEAKER_08 20:01

A pastor in the past. The pastor in the pasture.

SPEAKER_06 20:04

I'm the pastor in the pasture.

SPEAKER_08 20:05

Has anyone done this before?

SPEAKER_06 20:06

Okay, this bit is very funny.

SPEAKER_08 20:08

High horse, you've got the you've got the mic for a sec. I need to see if this is the.

SPEAKER_06 20:11

What are you googling? Pasture in the pasture? Pastor in the pasture.

SPEAKER_08 20:15

It's very funny. Pastor in the pasture. It's there's a book. Pastor in the pasture. I, High Horse Palomino, wrote this book. Written by Darren Dawes.

SPEAKER_06 20:24

I was under the pseudonym of Darren Dawes.

SPEAKER_08 20:30

Derek. Read the the some of the synopsis for this for this book as High Horse.

SPEAKER_06 20:36

Well, I wrote this book, so I will read it as myself.

SPEAKER_08 20:39

Tell me about it. It's 827 on Amazon.

SPEAKER_06 20:41

Yep, this book came out in December 2nd, 2024. 130 pages. God has always taught his people the biggest lessons of life through a variety of ways. Farming has become one of the ways God has used to teach his unlikely farmer some of life's most important lessons. Okay. Through a series of unexpected events, God has decided to take a pastor, me, the horse, and place him in the pasture.

SPEAKER_08 21:08

Through some series of events, this pastor has ended up in a pasture.

SPEAKER_06 21:12

While in the pasture, this pastor has to learn to care for animals. He has decided to make hay. He makes hay with his mouth. When the mouth he makes hay. Now to farm. Now I'm not. Ultimately, he was learning something so much more valuable. He was learning about Wi Fi. He was he was in the pasture. He learned about trust. Woey. Relationships, failure, and patience. Who knew you could learn so much from sheep, goats, and cock?

SPEAKER_08 21:40

Peacocks, peacocks, eye horse.

SPEAKER_06 21:42

Oh no, I'm slipping back. I gotta go.

SPEAKER_08 21:44

I just really I love the thought of like it's not like he goes to this pasture during the day, comes back to his house. It's like he was placed in the middle of this pasture and just has to learn how to do things like make hay and learn about worry and trust in relationships with a peacock. What is going on?

SPEAKER_07 22:01

My favorite thing about that is it's 130 pages.

SPEAKER_08 22:03

Yeah, real, real easy read.

SPEAKER_07 22:05

It's a real quick read. Real quick read. Sit down and read that in one day.

SPEAKER_08 22:08

Wow's us.

SPEAKER_07 22:08

We just slipped back to like early first era. That was horrible there. Like full on, full stop.

SPEAKER_08 22:15

Five stars here. Quick, easy read. Encouraging inspirational stories from everyday life with biblical implications. An uplifting afternoon.

SPEAKER_07 22:23

Alright, back to the Silent Hill. Where we belong.

SPEAKER_08 22:26

Where we belong. Um back in Swell and Ill.

SPEAKER_07 22:30

So this movie came out this year of the year of our God 2026. The year of our high horse 2026.

SPEAKER_08 22:36

The year of our high horse God 2026. The year of our Lord and Savior Garfield.

SPEAKER_07 22:40

Budget of 23 million dollars. It grossed $48 million. Which means it will probably be a sequel because it double-ditch budget.

SPEAKER_08 22:51

What the fuck? Who's going to see Jesus?

SPEAKER_07 22:54

Silent Hill's very, very popular.

SPEAKER_08 22:55

Especially if it got out that it was a Silent Hill 2. The problem with the nostalgia slop that we live in these days. If you if you make something that there's been one of before, people will go see it. It's true. That's why everyone's gonna go see fucking Moana, and not enough people are going to see the Minions and the Monsters. Yeah, you want to get up on your hands.

SPEAKER_06 23:11

Can I build you a box? It'll be a box, I'm bing, bing, pink, pink, bing, pink.

SPEAKER_08 23:15

Yeah, so I went to go see Minions and the Monsters, not ironically. I wanted to see this. I was willing to go see this movie alone on opening night because I wanted to see it that bad. Because you know what? These little guys love movies and cinema and monsters. And I had a good time, and that's all I gotta say out about it. Check out the Minions and the Monsters.

SPEAKER_07 23:33

That was a really good, sweet review. Uh if our reviews were that short, we wouldn't have a podcast.

SPEAKER_08 23:37

We would not have a podcast, no. That was a more positive review. I don't know if this one's really gonna follow the same same track there.

SPEAKER_07 23:43

Yeah, so I actually don't really have too much else to say now about Silent Hill, Return to Silent Hill. Um we'll we'll talk more about things as we go. It was also written by Chat GPT, Sandra Vaughan, William Joseph Schneider, uh Haruki Owaku, who was wrote the original game. Okay. Uh, and Kachiro Toyama was also created the original game. Wow. So craziness. Uh gotta give them credit where credit it is due. They probably started out as something good, you know.

SPEAKER_08 24:13

Derek, so how much do you know about Silent Hill to the game?

SPEAKER_07 24:16

Uh like I said, like, oh, well, I've done oh, okay. So since we watched this movie, it has been about a week. Uh I actually I did a bunch of research. I bought the game, I played a little bit of it, um, I mostly watched like lore videos, playthrough. I watched a playthrough and I watched a speedrun. Um, and I got a pretty I got a pretty good understanding of it now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 24:35

What is most interesting to me about your Endeavor series, you've discovered there are several different endings for this.

SPEAKER_07 24:41

So the original Silent Hill, uh, we'll go over these at the end, and I'll probably go through all of them quick. Um, because I think it's really, really important to understand how the movie ends versus the video game. Because the video game, again, has eight different endings. They could have picked one. And I will tell you now, the Return to Silent Hill made up its own ending. I kind of get what they were going for with it. Um, I think it could have been done better, and I also think it could have flowed better. We'll we'll go over that when we get that.

SPEAKER_08 25:09

It is so wild though that when you have at least eight different endings you could choose from, like within those eight, there's probably something you could use to fit within whatever story you're working with. And instead, they're like, no, no, no, we're I'm gonna do my own thing.

SPEAKER_06 25:21

I'm gonna do my own thing.

SPEAKER_08 25:22

I'm gonna do my own thing. And it um well, we'll tell you about that once we get to that point. Yeah, we will.

SPEAKER_07 25:27

I here's the thing, man. Like, I don't know. It the the differences at first, when we're you first sit down to watch the movie, like there aren't as many differences as you would think. And then as it looks very it's very, very close.

SPEAKER_08 25:41

It's very one-to-one for the first like 20 minutes, maybe 10.

SPEAKER_07 25:44

And then it as it keeps going, it really loses its momentum as far as being a faithful adaptation.

SPEAKER_08 25:50

Because literally while we were watching it, we had a playthrough up for ourselves just to like play it the same thing. And I was actually surprised at how much I was like, oh wait, yeah, that's where this is. Oh, look, and they're doing this. Like it was following the same structure for like 15 minutes, and then it kind of did its own thing, yeah, as Silent Hill is wants to do.

SPEAKER_07 26:06

So sorry, I'm watching my baby at the same time because I'm in charge of baby duty right now. Well, she just went face down into the you can see she just went okay there she she fixed it.

SPEAKER_08 26:17

Guys, babies baby monitors are scary. They are. Has anyone made a horror movie with like baby monitors yet? Because there's that's a whole that's a rich. Yeah, if you consider adult people babies, everyone's babies.

SPEAKER_06 26:29

Well, I do in that case. Yak, yak, yak. Who's this guy?

SPEAKER_07 26:33

That's that guy. We don't need to make more characters. Damn it. As much as I like making more characters, I already did Silent, I did the guy for a minute. Um but yeah, that's Silent That's pretty much all I have to say about Return of Silent Hill at this point. Um at the juncture. What you need to understand is this was supposed to be an adaptation of Return of Silent Hill 2. Um there's something I can say. So Silent Hill, I am no expert. All I know is what I've learned over the last few days. Yep. What I will the expert. I will impart some knowledge. So Silent Hill is more of a concept. The the place is more of a concept than an actual place. There is a cult that basically like Oh my gosh, there's so much. Go watch a lore video. It they'll do such a better job. But so the basic under idea is that like the Native American people who lived at the location of Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_08 27:26

Oh, so Silent Hill goes back.

SPEAKER_07 27:27

Yeah, they were driven off the land, and the spirits dwelt there, and it like this cult came in, and they basically use it as a place to punish sinners. So, like, that is kind of the idea. So basic. Oh my god, there's so much more to that than that. And I probably just read somebody somebody out there just like Derek, you're such an idiot. But like that, I'm trying to say it as simply as possible. Because it is actually it is a very interesting story, and I highly recommend you go look it up.

SPEAKER_08 27:51

Makes sense why there's a bunch of games and such for it.

SPEAKER_07 27:53

Like, it's got good lore. Um, so knowing that, you know that whoever is dealing with the events of Silent Hill in some way is a sinner is a bad person. Go to hell. You're in hell. Um, I wouldn't say that they are in hell, I would say that it is a way for them to manifest.

SPEAKER_08 28:12

You go to Silent Hill, it's torturous, it's it's punishing you for your sins, then you die. Then you go to real hell after that.

SPEAKER_07 28:19

Yeah, dude, and that's just like your middle school.

SPEAKER_08 28:22

That sounds it reminds me of that one. Um, you ever seen that video of the uh the actor that played the first live action Mario in like the TV show? Uh I know who you're I know who you're talking about. Yeah, that guy. There's a there's a quick commercial with him telling it's like a PSA for kids not to do drugs. And he's he says, Remember, kids, don't do drugs, or you'll go to hell before you die. That's fantastic. Yeah, I was like, there's no way you haven't. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's great. But that's Silent Hill. You go to hell before you die.

SPEAKER_07 28:47

Before you die. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_08 28:49

Silent Hill, not even once.

SPEAKER_07 28:51

I'm actually kind of excited to talk about this. I've I have more notes than I normally do. Really? Yeah, because I I jotted some things down because uh I actually kind of fell in love with the lore a little bit. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 29:02

Um which I feel like makes it harder for you to like the movie then.

SPEAKER_07 29:06

I went from thinking this movie was like a maybe one and a half to two-star movie to thinking it's a half-star movie.

SPEAKER_08 29:11

Yeah, it's it's it's pretty rough. It seems like those who are not Silent Hill fans who do not know what it is being adapted from are able to enjoy this just a little bit more. Yeah. An emphasis on a little bit, because that's me. I've never seen the video game before. So I was like, okay, I'm going in knowing nothing and not how plot lines and stories and structures have been bastardized exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 29:32

And bastardized is a really good way to put it. Things I know about Silent Hill, it's foggy and there's a pyramid head. I could give you my my just real quick explanation of this entire movie. It's like someone with giving the benefit of the doubt, maybe AI wasn't used. But you've thrown that around a lot.

SPEAKER_08 29:49

You have have you found any evidence that says this?

SPEAKER_07 29:51

No, and the movie was in development pretty early on into like the creation of AI, so I don't think well, the use of AI, yeah. AI has always been around, but um like the way that the movie flows feels like someone took the entire plot synopsis of Silent Hill the video game and put it into an AI or into like Google Translate, translated it into French, and then translated it back. And the reason I say that is because he's a Frenchman. Oh and all of his movies are in French, uh, including Return to Silent Hill, actually, they have a French version. But boy, I guess we have to talk about the movie.

SPEAKER_08 30:27

You want to dive into some reviews from our lovely people on Rotten Tomatoes? Yeah. Yeah, let's get into some of these reviews then, eh?

SPEAKER_07 30:34

Don't worry, my baby's not smothering herself anymore.

SPEAKER_08 30:36

Good, I'm glad.

SPEAKER_07 30:36

I was an announcement alive. My wife's pregnant again. I'm gonna have another baby.

SPEAKER_08 30:41

Whoa, you're putting that out here on the into the public space.

SPEAKER_07 30:44

That baby's grown. I've seen pictures.

SPEAKER_08 30:46

It is true. I did see an ultrasound. I saw that and I was like, that is a baby. That is a baby. Because usually you see something like that, you're like, that's a that's a shape, that's a peanut. Like, I can what is that?

SPEAKER_07 30:54

That was a penis. That's a baby. Because I'm having a boy.

SPEAKER_08 30:57

We had a baby, it's a boy.

SPEAKER_07 30:59

Dude, we had the whole have the whole talk about circumcision the other day. I was like, oh, it's real. I'm having a baby. Minions and monsters has 91% of the body. Dude, it's fucking awesome. Well, you think I'm joking with you? You think I'm messing with you? Okay, listen, I knew it was fun, but you only gave it three and a half stars on Letterboard.

SPEAKER_08 31:16

Minions and Monsters is a wonderful time. I might bump it up to four. You never know. I think you have to now that you've read it. Uh, so the critics' consensus on Return to Silent Hill is a visually tacky sequel that lumbers along with a plodding pulse and lacking the thematic resonance that distinguished its source material. Return to Silent Hill gets lost in the Haze.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

Are we doing accents now?

SPEAKER_08 31:38

It's just the snooty. That's what the critics sound like. That's how it goes.

SPEAKER_04 31:41

I do not understand how it seems to be monumentally difficult to adapt one of these games into a film. It might be time to stop trying. It's me, Trace Thurman.

SPEAKER_08 31:51

Uh, David Griffith Griffiths from Subculture Entertainment with a 2.5 out of 5, says some may feel that Return to Silent Hill just looks like a creepy screensaver, while others may choose to embrace the film's artistic side. Either way, I get the feeling this will become a cult classic that is very likely to divide audiences over its merit. Okay, that's actually kind of positive. Yeah. That was I it was not this is a rotten review.

SPEAKER_07 32:13

Uh yo, it's me, Lee McCoy. Uh, this horror visuals and world building look straight out of a video game, and that just doesn't cut it for an actual movie by a major studio. Does nothing feel remotely frightening, dog. There's really no great build to the story. Does he know that was Lee McCoy of Drum Drums? Does Lee know it was based on a video game? I think he may not know.

SPEAKER_08 32:35

This looks like a video game. Hey, hey Donnie, why are you showing me? It looks like a why don't I just play a game then, huh? You think I'm stupid if something can't play a game? Gotta play it out for me. Come on.

SPEAKER_07 32:44

Well, I can play my own video game. I got a control thing. I got a control stick.

SPEAKER_08 32:48

I got a controller right here. I'll play the game. I'll show you.

SPEAKER_07 32:51

Jeremy Johnson's on here and it says, time, don't waste it on this movie.

SPEAKER_08 32:55

Yes, absolutely. I saw that one. There's a here's a positive review, a fresh review from Connor Petrie. Of Pop Culture Leftovers says, loaded with atmosphere, haunting creatures, and endless labyrinths. Return to Silent Hill is a psychedelic nightmare that deals with grief in a uniquely satisfying fashion. I just don't see it, Connor.

SPEAKER_07 33:15

Well, you didn't think we watched Tush A Moving.

SPEAKER_08 33:17

I don't think we watched the same movie, Connor. Connor, I think you need to return to Return to Silent Hill and give it another shot, maybe. Alright, Isaac. Check it out.

SPEAKER_07 33:25

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's get in. Let's talk about the movie. Let's get into our expectations.

SPEAKER_06 33:29

I think it's time to dive in.

SPEAKER_08 33:31

Uh generally, expectation for this one? Ah, I thought it was going to be a bad dive.

SPEAKER_07 33:36

I was actually, I was kind of like, I was excited to dive, like, I hate to keep using dive in, but I was ex- I was kind of excited to dive in the world of Silent Hill because I didn't know much about it, but I was curious to see how it differed from Resident Evil. Very pleasantly surprised now at how different it is from Resident Evil. Because it is a I mean, they're both similar gameplay.

SPEAKER_08 33:56

God, it's so funny that this movie and then a Resident Evil movie are gonna come out in the same year, and it's not even gonna be close, I bet.

SPEAKER_07 34:02

No, they're gonna be very different. I'm already guessing that Resident Evil, is that Kregger's Resident Evil is gonna be my 10. Oh, it's gonna be great. This is like bottom, bottom of the barrel.

SPEAKER_08 34:11

Oh, yeah, for sure. No, this is this is definitely near the bottom of my list for sure, on the on the top of the year of horror.

SPEAKER_07 34:17

Expectations.

SPEAKER_08 34:18

Uh so our expectations, my first formal expectation is so that's not Mr. Supernatural? Because our main guy here, Mr. Mr. James, is that his name? Am I saying that right? James Sunderland? Sean. Uh, he just the his general vibe and look was giving very like supernatural. That was the best way I could describe it. Was uh was it Jared Padlecki from that one?

SPEAKER_07 34:39

Uh Padjek. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 34:40

Padjek. Yes, that guy. It looks a lot like him. And that was really it wasn't really an expectation, mostly just me commenting on the fact that it kind of looked like him.

SPEAKER_07 34:47

Dude, the the main character of this movie was so goddamn forgettable. I literally like I forgot about him.

SPEAKER_08 34:54

I for I've already forgotten.

SPEAKER_07 34:56

He's gone from my birth. I'm even looking at pictures of him, I'm like, that's not the same guy. No. Oh, he was also in Baghead.

SPEAKER_08 35:02

So what was what was your first expectation?

SPEAKER_07 35:04

I'm just looking at look, I'm looking at movies as this guy was doing.

SPEAKER_08 35:06

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 35:07

Tell me about this guy. He's literally the worst part of the movie. Tell me about Jeremy Irvine. Uh that sounds a lot like a guy I grew up with, actually. Jeremy Irvine or Jervine? Jeremy Irvine.

SPEAKER_08 35:18

Okay, I was like, did you grow up next to a Jervine?

SPEAKER_07 35:21

Uh he was in Mama Me, Here We Go Again. So, like, good for him. Oh, that's so good, yeah. I didn't see that one. I should have. I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_08 35:27

It's career best for him, really.

SPEAKER_07 35:29

Really?

SPEAKER_08 35:29

Yeah, and a career worst is Return to Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 35:31

Uh, he was also in a movie called Degladesh. You never take me to Dangladesh. You know that meme? Nope.

SPEAKER_08 35:38

Wait, really? I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_07 35:40

Will you please remind me to show you that after? It's actually like a boppin song. Oh man. It's like one minute long.

SPEAKER_08 35:44

Derek is on weird, weird internet sometimes.

SPEAKER_07 35:47

What do you say weird?

SPEAKER_08 35:48

I'm on the right internet. That is true. You did show me that one crazy song from Eurovision. That was a good time.

SPEAKER_07 35:53

Bangaranga. Bangaranga. Bangaranga. I'm the bangura?

SPEAKER_08 35:56

That one? It's pretty great. Dude, I was kicked.

SPEAKER_07 35:58

I'm obsessed with that song for three days. I could not stop watching the music video. And I was like, Isaac, I need to show you this because you have to send it to someone. I'm the bangara. It's all because of the way the girl's face looks when she's looking at the camera. If you haven't watched the Eurovision performance of Bangaranga, she won this year's Eurovision 2026. Because you're probably listening to this in 2028. Well deserved. Um my expectation. My first expectation is wild plot that differs from the game.

SPEAKER_08 36:31

Interesting, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 36:31

But basically, anytime there's an adaptation like this, I'm like, okay, how is the plot going to be different? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 36:38

And it is. And by and by quite quite a country mile, it is. My next expectation was everything is green screen. Everything. Everything's a green screen. Everything you see. That thing over there, did you know that trash can is a green screen? Absolutely. This this the ash falling down from the sky, it's a green screen. The city of Silent Hill itself, that's a green screen. Dude, I forgot about the ash. Everything about this movie just looks so fake and like like most MCU movies these days, where it's just like this person is clearly not on a real location, not even a little bit. The lighting is slightly off of them. It just looks weird. It looks like a like a bad video game screensaver, honestly.

SPEAKER_07 37:16

It does. Those dumb attempts to have the camera work look like a video game. So you know, like sometimes in these movies, like Doom, the original Doom movie. I don't know if you ever saw it. Yeah, it like had The Rock in it, I think. What? Or Arnold Schwarzenegger? Who the fuck was it? One of those big strong boys. You never okay. I'm actually shocked. The whole movie was like first. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_08 37:38

Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Carl Urban.

SPEAKER_07 37:41

I wasn't lying. Why would I lie? Doug Jones! Why would I lie? I literally would never lie to you.

SPEAKER_08 37:46

What are we doing?

SPEAKER_07 37:47

Why are we watching this? Does that say sci-fi horror? Wait, go back. Did that say sci-fi horror?

SPEAKER_08 37:52

Why aren't we watching Doom? Sci-fi horror. Shit. 18%.

SPEAKER_07 37:56

Derek, we can watch Doom. Can we pivot our next movie to Doom? Doom. I kind of want to watch this.

SPEAKER_08 38:01

God, I cannot believe the rate.

SPEAKER_07 38:03

I have not seen this movie in years. It was one of the first rated R movies I ever watched.

SPEAKER_08 38:06

Holy shit, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_07 38:08

Let's watch Doom, dude. I really want to. It's really bad. If I remember correctly, there's a couple sequences where they actually go first person and it's really bad.

SPEAKER_08 38:16

Oh, dude. It's like nauseatingly bad. Check this out.

SPEAKER_07 38:20

And look at the creature. That's Doug Jones.

SPEAKER_08 38:22

The creatures look kind of good, though, not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_07 38:24

Well, yeah, it was like 2001, right?

SPEAKER_08 38:26

Yeah, back when they still did shit practically. Well, I don't know. They were doing a lot of side the CGI in these ones too. Anyway, so first person.

SPEAKER_07 38:34

Felt really good to not be the person getting sidetracked it there. Uh yeah, so like I just didn't I was expecting things like that, like where it would like get behind him and like make you feel like you were in the game. And listen, there are sometimes that does work. I do enjoy that sometimes. And I I think that well, I won't go to my results for that expectation yet. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That's my expectation.

SPEAKER_08 38:53

I said Pyramid Head is probably gonna be the best part, mostly because the main guy certainly didn't look interesting. And pre Pyramid Head was pretty much the only other thing I knew about this movie. And the only other thing I really enjoy about when I see Silent Hill shit, because I'm like, listen, it's a cool design. It's a cool big buff guy. He's got a gigantic fucking sword and a big old pyramid for it. It's cool. Yeah. So I thought it'd be dope.

SPEAKER_07 39:14

Yeah, if only they used him properly. Derek, don't spoil it. Don't spoil the movie. You hit me really hard, and I'm I hit him really hard. I'm gonna go look at my baby on the baby monitor.

SPEAKER_05 39:24

And cry?

SPEAKER_07 39:25

Yep. Um, really poor acting choices. I was just I was putting myself in the shoes of Mr. Man and I was like Christoph Gans. I was like, if my actors were doing this, would I want them to copy the movie, the video game characters, or would I want them to do their own take? And I think I would want a mixture of the two. Anyway, I kind of went down like this mind puzzle of like trying to think how I would act in this movie.

SPEAKER_08 39:51

You should direct or act in a video game adaptation movie. I think you think you're the right stuff. Animal Crossing. There it is.

SPEAKER_07 40:05

What the fuck is happening? What is going on? How does the how does the guy sing?

SPEAKER_08 40:13

How does he sing? I can't remember. It's just like that. What's his name? KK Slider.

SPEAKER_07 40:17

KK Slider, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 40:18

It's like a I just I'm very ent I'm very entertained by your your Animal Crossing impressions.

SPEAKER_07 40:28

I love it. Do you think I could be a voice actor for the next Animal Crossing? Absolutely you could, I think. Uh Mr. Nintendo. Mr. Mintendo. It's Miss Mintendo now. Mr. Mintendo.

SPEAKER_08 40:38

Call me Fontendo.

SPEAKER_07 40:40

Fontendo.

SPEAKER_04 40:41

Nintendo.

SPEAKER_07 40:42

Nintendo Kidding. That was fun. We had a good time there. That was my whole expectation. You're next.

SPEAKER_08 40:51

I said it's going to look like a video game, but in a bad way. I say that it looks like a video game derogatory. Just because, again, those green screens were not helping anybody, and I'm sure the CGI was not going to help it at all, and it was going to be really, really, really rough.

SPEAKER_07 41:05

Yeah, I mean, we haven't talked about this yet, but while this movie was in production, the hype around it made them green light a this is probably your in your trivia too. Sorry, I just frickin' stole it. I'm such a dick. It made them green light the remake of Silent Hill 2 because that showed the studio that they were, you know, there was enough hype around the movie, they were like, oh, well, maybe we should do a game.

SPEAKER_08 41:28

My current theory in my brain was like they saw the direction the return to Silent Hill was going, and they said, Oh no, you're about to ruin it. So they're like, what if instead we remake the game so that we can remind people, hey guys, Silent Hill 2 is good. Yeah. Don't think about the movie.

SPEAKER_07 41:42

Look, here's a remake, it's all shiny and which is really funny because some of the choices they made for the movie ended up in the game.

SPEAKER_08 41:48

Very strange.

SPEAKER_07 41:49

Like in the remake. Like all that red shit. Yeah. That wasn't in the original movie, in the original game, but they put it in the remake. Neat. Very cool. It's just like they took some of the good ideas from the movie and put them in the game. And then they put it in the game. What was your next one? Um, well. CGI and effects circa 2001. So I'm kind of like with you, right? The too much green screen, not enough like anything. I don't know, man. It just like every vibe about this movie gives early 2000s. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 42:17

Like when you watch the trailer, you expect the you wouldn't you wouldn't rob a convenience store at Silent Hill. You wouldn't silent a hill. You wouldn't hill a silent.

SPEAKER_07 42:28

You said the same thing we said so.

SPEAKER_08 42:29

No, I'm with you. Uh my last expectation was just uh maybe some badass music. And that was really just kind of me grasping for straws, trying to find a last expectation for this one, because I just didn't know what what else we could do here. None of it was looking that appealing to me, Derek. I was kind of sad going into this one.

SPEAKER_07 42:44

My final expectation is an ending that just feels jumbled.

SPEAKER_08 42:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 42:49

Kind of expecting because going into this, I did not know that there were so many endings, but I assumed that the ending would leave me wanting and would feel jumbled. Yep. Boy, have I put on on that one? Fucker and fuck a thef. Alright, let's get in, dog. Let's talk about this movie. We're so ready.

SPEAKER_08 43:05

Let's talk about Return to Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 43:08

Here's the spoiler territory now. I've never seen that before.

SPEAKER_08 43:11

We're getting into it, guys.

SPEAKER_07 43:12

We're gonna talk about it if we spoil it. It is important to note that we will be spoiling the game a lot too. That is true, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 43:17

If you wanna if you want to experience that.

SPEAKER_07 43:21

Some of the themes of this game are pretty dark. I don't know how deep we're gonna go into that.

SPEAKER_08 43:24

Yeah, there are a couple of a couple of guess plot points pointer.

SPEAKER_07 43:29

Here's an interesting thing though, is the game went deeper into those themes than the movie did.

SPEAKER_08 43:33

Yeah, I was gonna say I feel like the themes uh definitely did not come across quite as hard as they do through the game.

SPEAKER_07 43:39

The movie really felt like a it felt like a generic brand, Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_08 43:44

Yeah, it's the Walmart brand Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 43:45

Yeah, like they took Silent Hill. Quiet Mound and threw the whatever, what is Walmart's brands? Kirkland, I think. No. Great Value. Great Value. Yeah, yeah. Great value. That's the dumbest name.

SPEAKER_08 43:56

What are you talking about? It's great value. It's stupid. I hear Great Value. That is true. I don't hear great value and think yes, uh it's it's high quality.

SPEAKER_07 44:08

I think the lowest of possible qualities. The only thing lower than that, Dollar Tree. True. It's literally the only thing.

SPEAKER_08 44:14

Dude, I was in a new Dollar Tree the other day. I swear they build sentence. They build them like decrepit. They live, they build them to look like shit. Well, they know what it is, and they all feel the same. Even it literally like days ago this Dollar Tree opened.

SPEAKER_07 44:28

Okay, so do you think that there is a manufacturing company who builds the sets? Wow, I'm such an actor. That builds the like the equipment and the materials for the Dollar Tree's that they're also a dollar version?

SPEAKER_08 44:40

Yeah, I think so. So it's like dollar cost dollars in the supplies to build one. Can I tell you what though? Pissed me off. I'm in the dollar, I'm here at the Dollar Tree. I'm walking around, you know, you know, you walk around Dollar Tree. Yeah, Jerry, I know. I go inside the Dollar Tree. First thing I notice, lots of signs in there, lots of signs in there that say $1.25. It's not called the Dollar. It's not called the Dollar $25 tree. Worse than that, I see a big old bag of Reese's pieces. I was like, wow, Reese's pieces at the Dollar Tree? Look at their price tag. Six dollars. Okay, so the life is just like capitalism's dead. Inflation hit a second inflation has hit the dollar tree. It's not called the six Dollar Tree.

SPEAKER_07 45:22

I did not have relations with that Dollar Tree.

SPEAKER_08 45:25

I did not have six with that Dollar Tree.

SPEAKER_07 45:27

Did you not have six? That was pretty good.

SPEAKER_08 45:30

Anyway, I was mad. I wasn't gonna pay six dollars for that while I was at the Dollar Two.

SPEAKER_07 45:34

Dollar to Silent Hill. Return to Silent Hill. Sponsored by Dollar Tree. Sponsored by Dollar Tree. Okay, so in the I'm we're not gonna go beat by beat with like the game and the movie, but like I think we'll just mainly talk about the movie. I think that for the simplicity of it all, let's just explain what happens in the movie, and then when things come up that wildly different from the game, I'll I'll just like jump in.

SPEAKER_08 45:54

Yeah, hop on in. Tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_07 45:56

So let's start talking about the movie, man.

SPEAKER_08 45:57

Yeah, um, this man's hair looks fake. It looks bad. Everything about him is fake. Everything about him looks bad. Looks like he's wearing a bad wig, and that's a consistent thing throughout this movie. A couple of bad wig choices, honestly.

SPEAKER_07 46:08

So, okay, in the movie, this I mean, right off the bat, we have something that's majorly different. So in the movie, James Sunderland travels to Silent Hill, he receives a letter from his deceased wife. We know instantly that she's dead. Yep. We know deceased girlfriend.

SPEAKER_08 46:22

She's only his girlfriend in this movie, which is crazy. Because in the game, she's his wife. I thought that he was married the whole time. Nope, it's only his girlfriend. I only know because there's a scene where he meets a character and he goes, blah blah blah, my girlfriend or ex-girlfriend or something like that.

SPEAKER_07 46:34

Can I just say that them being girlfriend, boyfriend immediately diminishes all of it that make the relationship of these two characters matter? Like, yes, girlfriend, boyfriend can have the same relationship. Like, but being married is significantly more important. Okay, that doesn't matter. I don't know why I got so angry.

SPEAKER_08 46:55

It does lose its weight, though, right? It loses a lot of weight. Especially with girlfriend and not like, oh, my wife who died. Like these two have very different impacts to that. Especially with what you find out later on. Like there's Do you want to tell them about how they met each other? Because that's how the movie starts. I don't remember. You see him racing like he's in fucking Gran Turismo, racing down the side of this winding hill. Meow meow. It's automatically setting the wrong tone for the movie. But then he like spins out and hits her luggage as she's waiting at a bus stop for this bus, breaks her luggage, and for some reason that's enough of a reason for her to miss the bus. And she's like, Well, great. I was about to leave Silent Hill, but I guess I can't now. He's like, How about I give you a ride? It's the least I can do for being an asshole and hitting your luggage, and then they fall in love, and it's cute. But then, yeah, flash cut, always depressed and an alcoholic because she's dead now.

SPEAKER_07 47:49

Uh so you do find out fairly early on in the game that his wife is dead, but it does take a little while. Yeah. Um in the movie, though, I felt like it it just kind of started right off. But yeah, it does show you that weird meat cute, which made no sense. And I I still even after the explanation of it felt really dumb.

SPEAKER_08 48:08

Yeah, exactly. So it's like, okay, great. You almost ran her over. She's like, yeah, sure, let's go on a date. And then they get together and they have an apartment, and then you get bits of bits of their relationship throughout. You don't get it all at once, because then things slowly start to devolve. You're like, well, why does he why is he so upset about this? How did she die? And then what was going on in their relationship?

SPEAKER_07 48:26

Why did they break up? Okay, so here we have the biggest detractor from the game. Yeah. Where we have these like kind of rom-com style flashbacks of their relationship. And in the game, you're given all of this stuff through bits and pieces and clues as the game goes on. You're not just explicitly given this. And I was thinking I've been thinking a lot about this. Like, if you were to film a movie, could you do it in the same way that the game has done? And inherently, no. You cannot make a video game, like it's two very different mediums.

SPEAKER_08 48:55

Right. I mean, there's a reason why the mediums differ from each other, why they both exist in their own ways.

SPEAKER_07 49:00

I don't think that they went the right direction with making it kind of like that rom-commy style, because it made the tone of the movie drastically just weird. Yes. Like it felt raw. It didn't feel right. You had all these moments where he's like scared and walking through the city, and then all of a sudden he's like at home, like, I don't know, getting a puppy for Christmas, and like she's there, sick.

SPEAKER_08 49:24

This movie's such a clusterfuck. That's like the best way I can describe it. There's just it's just an onslaught of things just being thrown at you with no breathing room. It's just this thing happens, then another thing, then another thing. Yeah. Especially when you get to the point where you are actually in Capital S, Silent Hill, with all of its fog and stuff. Because originally we've we see Silent Hill as just a city on the move. It's just a normal-looking city, nothing super weird about it at all. But then, Derek, do why does he go back to Silent Hill in the first place? Why does he return?

SPEAKER_07 49:52

So years later, you you see their stupid meat cute, you see some things about their relationship. Now he's moved away from the town and he's an alcoholic.

SPEAKER_08 50:00

He's depressed, it's so sad, and he's an angry painter, and he slashes his paint onto the canvas because he's so fucked up, his dark, twisted mind.

SPEAKER_07 50:09

He's he he gives the emo Spider-Man really bad. Really does. Yeah. Like a lot of the movie, he's giving emo Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_08 50:17

Absolutely, he is.

SPEAKER_07 50:19

So James, our main character, does receive a letter from his wife urging him to come back home. And he goes, he's he's like, oh, I have to go back, my wife's dead.

SPEAKER_08 50:28

Yeah, so that's the thing. He knows his girlfriend is dead. Yeah. She's been dead, he knows this for a fact. Then he gets a letter from her that asks him to come back.

SPEAKER_07 50:38

Would you not?

SPEAKER_08 50:39

Listen. Because like to put yourself in his shoes. That's true. I'm not saying a piece of shit. I am a piece of shit. You're right. That's beside the point. Why are we talking about that?

SPEAKER_07 50:48

I would give you a theoretical situation.

SPEAKER_08 50:52

No, you're right, though. I too would want to see that to its end.

SPEAKER_07 50:54

But yeah, like why who sent me to me? That's what I want to know.

SPEAKER_08 50:59

Yeah. That's first and foremost. Who's fucking with me?

SPEAKER_07 51:03

Anyway, so he gets back, he goes to Silent Hill, and here when he gets there, like immediately fucked up. Some of the visuals are pretty in line with the game. Like the town looks pretty good.

SPEAKER_08 51:12

It's a strange thing where like the the quote unquote bad CGI is almost lending itself to feeling like an old PS2 game. It does. Like Silent Hill 2. Like, but then So it almost works in some roundabout way. They have all this ash falling from the sky. It looks bad. It just looks so bad. It don't look good. This ash so bad. Can't you just pour shit from the sky? Like, I don't understand. Could there had to have been ways to do this practically at all? But yeah, that's that's what makes it look pretty, pretty rough in the effects department for sure. All of that stuff.

SPEAKER_07 51:41

So instantly, I mean, you could you could chime in too, but instantly we're we're kind of taken out of any sense of terror. Yeah. Because we're just given all of these action sequences.

SPEAKER_08 51:53

I gotta, I gotta back up though. Gotta back up, Derek. Please do. So he goes, first and foremost, he goes to that like that overlook cliff, the bus station where he runs into the girl, right? He doesn't run her into her, but where he met her. So that's where he parks his car. Then he decides to go on foot into Silent Hill. To get to Silent Hill, you've got to go through the hundred-acre woods. That's true, the big forest. You gotta go through this big forest. And so I for some reason was weirdly impressed at how good the forest looked. I think it's because everything else is so clearly not shot on a real location, just green screen studio shit. Very much so. That the that it looked, as far as I could tell, it looked like the forest was actually a forest they shot in, like a real location. So I say, that's a nice forest. And Derek says, Well, more like a five-ist to 10 seconds of silence. And he goes, Has anyone ever made that joke before? It's a really funny joke. It took me so long to understand what the fuck you were talking about. I was like, fiveist? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_07 52:51

Like four, four, five. Because people say like five sevenist. People say like five head.

SPEAKER_08 52:59

You're right. And you know, maybe someone's never made that joke before. That's the first joke ever.

SPEAKER_07 53:03

And if I and if I was, you hear me president of the world. Of the world. Yeah, because we're turning into that society. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably Trump.

SPEAKER_08 53:12

No.

SPEAKER_07 53:13

I made the fiveest joke first.

SPEAKER_08 53:14

I made the fiveest joke first. And that's here, that's that's that's uh written in stone here on this podcast that was horrible forever. People can always come back to this on this exact date that we release it, and they'll know. You were the first to make the fiveest joke. So dumb. Anyway, let's go back to Silent Hill.

SPEAKER_07 53:31

Uh yeah, so he meets this woman named Angela, who's like being all creepy, and uh is which one was Angela in the in the movie?

SPEAKER_08 53:41

It's so tough. I think Angela was the girl he meets in the graveyard at the very first. He just meets an off-putting woman. He just meets a person who looks kind of creepy walking around a graveyard, is like, it's not safe here, you need to leave this place.

SPEAKER_07 53:52

He's like, I'm gonna do my thing anyway because I'm I'm my guy. And then he gets attacked by this the the monster design in this is actually pretty cool. But it's a monster design in the game.

SPEAKER_08 54:00

Exactly. That's the thing. Like they didn't really stray too much from the cre from the designs within the video game, which is good. I'm glad they did that.

SPEAKER_07 54:07

No, and if you look into the designs, they're all based in like this idea of mental instability, and it's really cool. Yeah. The monster designs in Silent Hill are sick.

SPEAKER_08 54:17

Yeah, because you got this this character that they run into in this one is like this like fleshy being that looks humanoid, but instead of having two arms, when you look behind them, it's like their arms are fused to their back with each other, so they kind of like stumble around without arms because they're fused to the flesh of their and their spine kind of, so they just kind of shamble around. They don't really have any eyeballs, just a scary-looking mouth and a featureless face. It's it's it's cool. They're like just it's almost giving um like the pale man from Pan's Labyrinth, like that kind of look to them, if they had no arms, pretty much. But yeah, so that's the first thing we encounter is those monsters.

SPEAKER_07 54:51

And they like spit this like black goop.

SPEAKER_08 54:53

Oh, that's right, they've got some like acid or something in them.

SPEAKER_07 54:55

Kind of pointless.

SPEAKER_08 54:56

Kind of point, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:57

Uh I think that that probably worked better in the game.

SPEAKER_08 55:00

They mostly just serve as a thing to be like, oh no, I need to run away from this monster without much purpose. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 55:05

And the most of the movie is him just like dealing with the things.

SPEAKER_08 55:10

Yeah. So that's not well. That's the best way I can describe this movie. Is it's just it's like a haunted house. Yeah. You walk out of one haunt, you're immediately thrown into another one, then there's another one, it's just like just one thing after another, just an unfortunate situation after another. There's this monster, now it's this thing. Now you're thinking about your dead girlfriend again. It's just like it never stops.

SPEAKER_07 55:29

And it would be better because I mean you could argue that's how the game is, too. True, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 55:34

But it's also I don't know, I feel like there's a flow as well. No, there's a lot of moments where you're kind of walking between things and like you were coming upon them, you're experiencing them in a good flow. This one just like overdoes it.

SPEAKER_07 55:44

It's like he got the fast pass for every attraction at the haunted house. And so he's just hitting every single thing without going through the walk between.

SPEAKER_08 55:51

And so, to say something positive about this movie, it doesn't really waste its time getting into the thick of it. Because once shit starts happening, it just kind of doesn't stop after that. But it does have all the flashbacks. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 56:01

And the flashbacks really do hinder the movie.

SPEAKER_08 56:04

I really hated the flashbacks. I literally wrote a note about that that just says, I really hate all these flashbacks. Um, it also just like you guys remember when PlayStation was making some great commercials, they were making some really fun, creative, cool commercials. This movie feels like a PlayStation commercial where it's like, it's clear a lot of money went into it, but it still looks like a commercial. It does. It does.

SPEAKER_07 56:26

It looks and feels like a commercial different ways.

SPEAKER_08 56:29

Also, along the way in his journeys into Silent Hill, he keeps getting calls from like his psychologist or something, a psychiatrist who's just really worried about him. And it's strange. We're like, we're living in this weird, this movie's fucking confusing. Where it's like, he's in Silent Hill, and I don't know if this is a real place or if it's in like its own separate universe that he stepped into, but then he's getting phone calls from his actual psychiatrist who's like, I'm really worried about you. And it's like, bro, I'm in the fucking backrooms right now, like shit's crazy in here.

SPEAKER_07 56:58

Well, that's why I think that the game does so much better at this because it just drops you into Silent Hill. Yeah. And you're, I mean, you have to walk through the hundred-acre fiveist. But when once you get to the end, like you're in Silent Hill, right? And I I like that so much more. And the movie could have done that. Yeah. It 100% could have done that. It could have just dropped you into the game, not knowing anything. Exactly.

SPEAKER_08 57:21

Take risks, directors. Exactly. Quit holding my hand and giving me some rom-com story, it just like dropped me straight into it. I've always wondered, I've always felt like Silent Hill is just like you stumble and you walk through like the veil and you're in like some other kind of reality, but it still kind of exists within your own. Takes pieces from your existing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 57:39

I so, yeah, it's weird and it doesn't really make much sense. And honestly, while watching, I was in the same boat as you where it was like, is this real or is this fake? It's tough. Because I cannot tell.

SPEAKER_08 57:48

But then also there are moments where he will be in a scary situation and then like flip a switch, and then suddenly he's either in a different part of Silent Hill or he goes back to the real world for a second, then comes back to Silent Hill, and it's like, I don't know at what point this is a dream. What are the rules? What level of inception have we reached here? Because there's a point where like there's literally a scary monster who is like reaching down his throat. Oh yeah, and then he like wokes up. And then he wakes up in the hospital with his psychiatrist, and then suddenly he's popping back into Silent Hill later on, and that never there's no monster down his throat. I'm like, so so was that the dream, or was or is the real world the dream, and now you're back in silent. I don't fucking know. I do not know.

SPEAKER_07 58:30

I don't either. And I that really never got even addressed again. No, no, no. That was just like a thing that happened, and then the movie moved on from it.

SPEAKER_08 58:36

No, so yeah, so he he comes to Silent Hill, getting chased by one monster. He eventually ends up in the apartment complex that him and his girlfriend were living in for a moment. That's where he runs into a couple of creepy side characters. He runs into a little girl, I think her name is Laura Lorraine. I just had it written down. Something like that to that effect. It was Laura. I was right. Uh Laura is there, who's just like this creepy little girl who's just kind of antagonizing him the whole time. He meets some creepy guy named Ed who just like looks like a drug addict asshole, yeah, who just doesn't really do that much. But while they're there, Pyramid Head shows up and it's like, okay, cool, we're getting into the thick of it. This guy's here, here he is. It is for the standard of how entertaining the movie was, it was an entertaining sequence to see him get chased throughout this building by Pyramid Head. It was the most video gamey the movie felt. Yes, out of this section. Can totally agree. It really feels like like the video games were like you have to run away from this big bad character, right? Like any Resident Evil game, like a Silent Hill kind of thing.

SPEAKER_07 59:35

Here okay, I'm gonna just jump in and start kind of spoiling because I think it's important to understand something here. So in here lies the biggest issue with Pyramid Head in this movie. Pyramid Head was created for Silent Hill 2. The basically the gist of this whole thing, what Jeremy is going through. Wait, Silent Hill 2 was the first use of Pyramid Head? Yeah, didn't know that. James is literally Pyramid Head. That's great. So Pyramid Head is literally a manifestation of James' repressed guilt. Yep. It is literally his subconscious need for punishment, right? So any more any more iterations of Pyramid Head or just reusing the character because they thought it was cool. In this movie, though, it implies that the cult is using Pyramid Head to track him down. Yeah. Which I did not like. Because that I like it better as like him manifesting this thing. Yeah. Because in the game, a cool thing happens where like he doesn't get his big sword until Jeremy is not Jeremy, James gets a weapon, right? The actor's name is Jeremy. Yeah. James gets the this uh the knife from that girl later on. Then at that moment, he all of a sudden has a big weapon. That is pretty neat. But it also makes sense why there's a certain section in the game of Silent Hill 2 where you fight two pyramid heads at the same time, because he's he's literally being suffocated by his own subconscious guilt.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:59

That's pretty cool. See, that's cool shit. You can't get away from the city. That's really cool shit. Now you did mention something about a cult, which we have not covered yet in this. So, like we mentioned, there are some flashbacks. As he's progressing through Silent Hill and sort of going through like old haunts that he had with him and his girlfriend, right? Old places they used to be together. He's getting flashbacks of certain things, and suddenly he's remembering that there was some weird cult that his girlfriend was a part of. Yep. That he just started to notice, and apparently that's the crux of why they even broke up. He witnesses her at some fucking crazy looking sacrificial event where she's like basically uses some kind of weird blood sacrifice for some ritual kind of thing, and then he goes back home, he's like, No, I'm leaving. This is crazy. And you know he's right for that. Yeah. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:45

All of the cult stuff added for the movie. There are little things in the game to imply that there is a cult, and throughout the games, there is like a cult that it's like behind silent.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:55

Because Mary, his girlfriend or his wife in the game, is like her father is a part of it, right? Like that's a part of the plot. Something like that. Yeah, like because like in this one, her father is like the leader of this cult, supposedly, I guess. Even though you don't really ever see this guy, it's kind of confusing. But yeah, so there's like cult shit also happening with his girlfriend, which is like, okay, so does Silent Hill exist because of this cult or are they connected? I I I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:19

I really wish Why are they here? I really wish that the cult was kept more under reps. I didn't like seeing so much of it. In fact, when we were when I was the most checked out of the movie, was the cult sequences. They were pretty short, but they were so dumb. They didn't very, very, very dumb. There were and they kept doing things that were like, ooh, look at us, we're cool, culty things. It just none of it was. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:38

But so what's the worst about the Pyramid Head sequence is like he's about to like it looks like Pyramid Head's about to kill him, and then you hear like the tolling of the bell from the middle of town, and it gives Pyramid Head a big headache. He don't like it. He starts screaming, holding his head, and then he just like James just like passes out, I guess, and then wakes up somewhere else and he's fine, and Pyramid Head's gone, and it's not an issue. Yeah. It's like, what's the what was the point?

SPEAKER_07 1:03:03

What's the point, dude?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:04

I would have much rather he just like got away somewhere Pyramid Head couldn't reach, and he was like, I'm gonna get you, James, even though you're me, one day I'll get you. And then he runs away. I don't know. I just didn't like the way that they did it. No, me too. It just felt too easy, too convenient. Yeah, I completely agree. And so then at some point he runs into another woman whose name is Maria. Maria. Now, man, doesn't that sound a little bit like Mary? Well, yeah, it's the same act. Yeah. And she looks exactly the same. But she looks fucking terrible. She literally looks like a cosplayer. She's in like one of those weird-like a bad cosplayer. But a bad cosplay. She's got like one of those wigs that like the cut looks super weird. It's like really white blonde that like fades into this like pink purplish color on it. So here's the thing. Sometimes going so accurate to the video game is gonna stand out a little too much in your in your movie adaptation of it when you've gone for a bit of a realistic approach to things. Yep. Because God, like her design was just distracting. It really was. She was just it looked like they had hired a cosplayer straight out of San Diego Comic Con. And it was distracting to say something.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:11

So true, dude.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:12

But yeah, so the weird thing is he just kind of encounters her, and then she's like, I'm gonna hang out with you now. It's like when you're playing Dungeons and Dragons and you introduce a new character to the party, and it's like, you're just gonna join us now. We're not gonna come up with some reason, you're just here now. Welcome to the party.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:25

Well, and okay, so each of the characters in the game, and and technically in the movie too, are they are physical people, they are really there. Yeah, but it's the town creating these physical entities to essentially reflect back onto James what he has done in his life. Like Angela, she's a victim of abuse. Eddie is an outcast, Maria's a manifestation who looks like Mary. Like they are literally there.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:52

Angela is also played by the same actor that plays uh uh Mary as well. Mary, Maria, Angela, they're all the same because they're all manifestations of his wife's fucked up psyche.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:03

And I think that that's where the game, I mean, the game is better, obviously. But that this is where the movie kind of lost me, was with these character, the way it used these characters. Because in the game, yeah, the characters are very much like a cryptic, ooh, wait, why are these people here and why am I so directly related to them? Like if you put yourself in the shoes of James. Because right off the bat, you don't know James is a bad guy. Yeah. You're like, okay, I want to feel for my character, I want to like him. I did not feel that way in the movie. Yeah. Everything he said, I wanted him to stop talking. It's just so obnoxious. He was not a good acting choice for this character. Not a good character. No. I mean, uh actor choice for this character. But in the game, like you you see these characters and you can kind of start piecing together what happened. Yeah. Like, excuse me, based on like what they talk about, right? And what everything happens. But in the in the movie, man, everything just lost me constantly.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:56

Yeah, and it's also it's so forced his like self hatred. It's like, God, I hate. I hate my life. I hate my my girlfriend that I miss. I'm like, what is it? What's your deal? What's your damage? What's the goal? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? Also, I can't remember where this happened, but I do need to call out another monster that had such a small part in this movie. There's like a spider creature.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:18

Which is it's it's neat. It's another chase sequence again that involves Pyramid Head. What is most important to mention is that kind that spider is caked up. Dude, big ol' ass. Literally, so much so that I want to say it's the Japan release of the movie. They censored it. It's literally smoothed over. There's no crack in the butt because it was that much of a It was distracting. Listen, I would. Dead abdomen, you know? That abdomen. That astomen. Um, I where where do we go? Where do you go? Uh, where where are we? I really don't know. Basically, I think this movie is really lacking a good slow burn. Because I feel like that's what makes the Silent Hill games fun is walking through a very eerie, creepy city in the moments where there aren't monsters, and it's like, wow, I don't evil could be out at any corner. Oh, yeah. Instead, it's just out at every corner all the time. The lack of fear is what creates fear. Exactly. It's the waiting for things. And you don't wait for anything in this movie, it just throws them at you with no rhyme or reason as to why they're happening. It's just slap dash, like, here's a scary thing, here's a scary thing. It's like this is scary, right? It's like horror for people who don't actually know horror.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:22

It feels like mainstream Walmart horror. Yeah. True. Like really. So, I mean, we can kind of just skip through like, so yeah, he meets with these characters, they're all being creepy. Uh, he starts recalling memories where he's seeing the cult operating in Silent Hill. Um, then he breaks up with his girlfriend because she's involved with the cult. But then it just he discovers that his girlfriend is sick. Yep.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:48

Um she's being poisoned by this cult. That's what it's supposed to be. That's what it's implying. Yeah, which has left her with like permanent, you know, disabilities for the rest of her life because of being poisoned so much.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:59

Didn't really care for that line. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:03

So he does leave her, and then at one point he does come back to check up on her. Yeah. And this is where, I mean, like, this is kind of where the movie ends up, right? Like, there's a point where he does understand that Maria is like a manifestation of his own mind. She's not a real thing, and he has Pyramid Head kill her. Yeah. Right? This is where he kind of discovers, oh, me and Pyramid Head are one, and I'm trying, and I'm finally gaining my sentience again, and I'm understanding that we are one, and I have control of my own destiny and my own feelings, and I get this shit now. And apparently has control over what Pyramid Head does. Yeah. And just uses him to kill her, which is weird because I it's not like Maria was doing anything bad.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:43

She didn't really feel like a villain to me. Actually, in in the game, she's just presented literally as a manifestation of Mary. Like it is so obvious that it is just what she is.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:54

So it's kind of weird for him to kill her in this. I guess just for him to say like he's not gonna sit and like obsess over her anymore and what happened with the guilt. Is he letting her go? So here's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:07

In the game, it is heavily implied, slash literally shown that James killed Mary in the video game. In the video game. That is like the big mystery, the big reveal at the end of the game is that he killed her. Yeah. And like certain endings have different things to do with that. Okay. Never once while watching the movie was I like, he killed her. Yeah. No, he part of his guilt and depression was so in okay talking specifically about the game right now in Silent Hill 2. So, I mean, some of it is is the same, like, but uh she is really, really sick. She's like terminally ill. And he resents her for that. He resents her for being really, really sick. He's sexually repressed, he's an alcoholic, he's a failed artist. Like he has all of these things going for him. So he kills his wife. He puts her out of his her misery in a certain way. Him getting called the Silent Hill is the town and the, I guess, cult technically, calling him there to face his demons and deal with his demons. It's not killing him, it's not doing anything to him, it's literally making him face his own demons. Yeah. Right. So all of the characters are different manifestations of the feelings that he felt while killing his wife, technically. But that's not a character that we should have redeemed. Yeah. That is the character that we should see like come to terms with his thing he did and move on in some sort of way or die. Like that is like when you have a character like this, it is not an anti-hero, that is just your antagonist being the main character. That's all it is. Uh-huh. Right. The movie didn't really give us any of this. And in fact, the movie kind of redeemed him. Yeah. It kind of implies that he killed her.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:58

No, what do you mean? Kind of implies. We see him do it. I don't know. It was weird though. There's a sequence that happens where you see the flashback of him coming back to town, seeing her at the hospital, that's what he smothers her with the pillow. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:10

Completely forgot. Yes. I'm so sorry. He asks, she asks him.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:13

I completely forgot that happened in the movie. I've been so deep in the game that I thought that didn't happen in the movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:19

But see, this is the weird thing about it. He is so fucking torn up and hates himself for this. But in this movie, I'm like, she deliberately asks you to do this. Not that I not that I'm saying he did a good thing or anything, but like he's so racked with guilt. Like, how why did I do this? Like, bro, you did it because she begged you to take, like, put her out of her misery.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:37

Okay. I now remember why I got heated because the difference between those two is insane. He did one for selfish reasons, the game. He was horny and wasn't having enough sex. So like the the nurses, yeah, those are all a manifestation of his sexuality.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:51

There's a sequence in the movie where the nurses are all chasing him too, which is kind of a fun like the nurses. The nurses are cool.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:58

Yeah, those are really, really cool. But that's a manifestation of his sexual repression. Totally makes sense. Right. And caked up spider, I'm assuming, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_08 1:12:05

Gotta be part of that somewhere, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:06

But it here in herein lies the issue with Silent Hill, Return to Silent Hill. Yes. Is fundamentally you have this character who instead of making him choose to kill her because of his own needs, she asked him to, which inherently makes him more redeemable. Right, yeah. And I get that that's the storyline you were going for. But also kind of takes away from literally everything. I'm not saying it's better to kill someone that asked.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:39

All these manifestations of his guilt and repression and all that kind of stuff. Like if you kind of redeem him for that, and like, what are we doing? What's the point?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:46

No. So anyway, we'll we'll I guess finish out the movie now. So he makes it to the top of the building.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:52

Yeah, he like he kills Maria. He's got some more sense of himself, and he's a little more confident in what he did and blah, blah, and he understands things now. They're not so repressed anymore. Got a better grip on his and on his depression, I guess. And then he goes to the roof to to face the final boss, quote unquote. And it's like a moth version of his of his girlfriend of Mary. Yeah. This is like this is the evolution of would you love me if I was a worm? It's like, would you love me if I was a larva? Which then pupated into a moth. And then lit everything on fire.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:23

That's the thing.

unknown 1:13:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:27

His girlfriend's a big moth woman. Like it's it's weird.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:30

It sounds so much cooler than it actually was. I was shaking my head this whole time. Yeah. Anyway, then he like falls through it and he wakes up back at the start of the movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:39

Yeah. So what what happens though? How does he end with her? Does he kill her or does he like hold her? Because I remember he like takes her body and he puts it in the car with him, and they like drive into like a river or something. They drive into some water together. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:53

So this is actually similar to one of the endings of the game that I was going to bring up.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:57

That's right, because he sees a vision of her drowning, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_07 1:13:59

Yeah. Okay, yeah. Yeah, so he uh gets to the roof, he has a final flashback of their time together, um, and then he it finally tells everyone that he was the one who killed well, okay. It breathing. It shows us that he was the one who killed Mary. Yeah. She got sick because of the cult literally drugging her. Um she asked for a mercy killing, and then the cult called him back here to punish him for killing her because they wanted to turn her into a moth, I guess. I don't know what else. I don't know what that's about. Anyway, then he puts the body in his car and drives off a cliff.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:40

Crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:40

Into the water. And then he wakes up and he's driving on the freeway again. He's back at the beginning of the movie. And they have their Me Cute this time.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:49

This time he says, not today, and he drives away from Silent Hill. Yeah. Changing his fate. It had a weird, like happy, tact-on ending. It kind of felt like I should have been like playing like I'm gonna soak up the sun. Like, that's the vibe it felt like as they were driving away into the sunset. Like it's just kind of a cheesy, cheesy ending.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:11

Yeah, man. So in the game, tell me about some of these endings, of which there are eight. Yeah, there are eight endings in the remake. There are eight endings. I'm not gonna go through through all of them.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:21

Tell them about the dog one, though. That's pretty good. Or the alien. Tell them about both, actually.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:26

So in the game, there's like silly that they made a point with everything that was going on in the game to make the ending uh like ambiguous. They didn't they it is canonically ambiguous. Yeah, there isn't one ending that is canon. Yeah. And I get why when making the movie, they were like, we have to make an ending that is also ambiguous. Yeah. So they were like, look, it's a time loop. He's trapped at this time loop, but did he get out? You'll never know. I'm like, okay, surface level, that's fine.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:54

Sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:54

I think I like that ending on a surface, especially where it's a video game, you can replay it over and over. I think that that's kind of a cute idea. It just didn't land. No. And maybe that's my own.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:04

It just didn't work, the tone was wrong. And at this point, the movie had done enough to make me not really sit with it anyway. So, like, there wasn't a lot they could do to bring me on board.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:13

So, in there's one of the endings is called the in-water ending, where James puts her body into the car and drives drives into the lake and does kill himself. So that one does happen. That one does, okay. Um let's see. I'm trying to see which was even worth talking about. Oh, there's a dog ending. Yeah. So there's one secret ending where you walk into a room where there's a little dog typing away at a computer, and then he speaks Japanese. And then the dog.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:42

Yeah, Derek says you can only experience this scene in Japanese. Like it doesn't exist in an English translation no matter what version of the game you're playing.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:49

It's so funny. And then there's also the UFO ending where he gets abducted by aliens and talks to his old PlayStation 2 self.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:56

Because this is specifically in the remake of the game. So he sees the old PS2 version of himself and then gets abducted.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:02

Yeah. In the first game, in the PlayStation 2 game, you see the protagonist from the first game. Oh, okay. And then in the remake, you see the protagonist from the game. That's a fun little throwback. And I like that. So honestly, like they're I I'm not I'm not even gonna talk about more endings. It's not worth it. They're all really sad. And they all showcase a happy game.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:25

No, they all show not called happy ew.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:28

They all showcase that I'm trying so hard not to riff on that. They all showcase James being this tormented character who's not a good person. Twisted mind. But like I I really think that the game had way more depth to the character. There was more depth to the story. It was actually this physical manifestation of his pain that you're going through, and that's exciting. This, it was some cult mad at him for killing his wife.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:56

His girlfriend. That they were gonna kill. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:00

Or turn into some kind martyr for I have no idea. I have no idea what they were trying to do.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:06

But there's like there's like made no sense. There's little things that they tried to bring into the game, like in the I mean, bring into the movie. Like in the game, you find out that Mary was molested by her dad and then went and killed his dad, her dad.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:18

Yeah before and then that was kind of incredible. A little bit of that in the movie, because there's a point where that character of Angela does come back and he helps her fight her own demons by killing like this deformed version of the father. And that is straight from the game. Yeah. Which is like again, neat concept, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:35

There was something about the way the movie did it that made it feel way worse.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:39

Yeah. The game the way the creature looks yeah, it was a little unsubtle for me specifically. Ut all. Um, but yeah, so that's uh but that's Return of Silent Hill. We got anything more to say in the movie, or is it?

SPEAKER_07 1:18:50

I don't I keep looking through my notes, and I there's nothing I really want to talk about. I'm just kind of like the game was so much better. I think it's obvious. Yeah. And they are two different mediums. I get that. But I also feel like if you just lay the stories next to each other, yeah, one story is inherently better. You have one where it's a man being tormented by a physical manifestation of his guilt, and you have another one where a cult is tormenting him because they wanted to be the one that killed a lady and he killed her. How dare you kill this lady we wanted to kill?

SPEAKER_08 1:19:18

It's weird.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:19

I mean, fundamentally, right, that's like what at least what I took from it. And if that's what I took from it, then it's right because genius.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:26

That's what I experienced in the movie. Shall we discuss our expectations then for this movie? Uh I said, so that's not Mr. Supernatural. And he transformed several times throughout the movie. He was Jared Padalecki, he was emo Adam Scott, he was emo Spider-Man, he was a whole manner of men.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:42

He was even John. He was John, he was James, I called him Jordan a couple times.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:48

None of them were great. Any of them. Really? No, he did really bad. Really did not like our main character.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:52

He disappeared in the movie so many times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:55

He was wallpaper.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:56

Wild plot that differs from the game. Yeah, I mean, there were some beats that hit, like like we've discussed. Like some of the beats worked really, really well. Yeah. But overall, it was just a drastically different story.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:07

Oh, yeah, for sure. I said, everything is green screen. This was upsetting because there were some sets that genuinely looked good. Like there were some things that actually, like, wow, I like this. I like the way like the apartment complex looked, because that one looked more like a real set. And then some of the worst screen screen you've ever seen.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:22

Just really, really rough stuff. Um, those dumb attempts to have the camera work like a video game. There were a couple of these. Overall, I actually left wanting more. Yeah. Like there was one top-down sequence that looked pretty good, but for the most part, it was just a movie. Yeah. And I wanted more of that like behind the camera homage stuff.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:40

Yeah. I think I think there's there are ways to do it well. Like, for instance, to speak on Zack Krager and his um Resident Evil again, just in the trailer that we've seen, there are a lot of things that are like subtle nods to the way that things work in the video games, like how you would react and play the game in that style. There are ways to make video game mechanics and things work in movies, and they definitely didn't do that in this one. Um, I said Pyramid Head's gonna be the best part. Hardly in it. Hardly in it. Didn't use him a lot. Nope. He was wasted. Nope, yep, he was wasted. He was in that one chase scene, and then he was there again, and then he was James as well. You get this like not so subtle indication that they're the same character because it zooms in on Pyramid Head's face and it goes behind the mask, and then there's James behind it. It's like, okay, we get it. I get it, man. It's fine.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:22

But yeah, wasn't it wasn't even that great. Nope. Really poor acting choices. I really feel like most of the acting choices in this were not based on motivations, and everything was just like so robotic and uninspired.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:34

Yeah, truly. Just bad acting, bad directing behind it. All of the above. All of it, but all of the above. I said it looks like a video game, but in a bad way. Actually, there was some weird charm to the axe aspects of it that harken back to PS2 graphics. Yeah. But I don't know if that was necessarily intentional. I think they just did a bad job. But if it was intentional, good work. That's good, yeah. If it was intentional, great work. If not, um you you succeeded by accident.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:57

Side side didn't. Uh CGI and Effects Circa 2001. I mean, like you were saying, some were some are okay, but the overuse of CGI was really annoying. The ash effect was so bad. They literally just overlaid ash falling through the whole movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:11

Yeah, not good. I said maybe some badass music and actually hardly any, and then random inserts of actual Silent Hill 2 music from the video game. Yeah. Because you called that out, you're like, that's just the music from the game. Yeah. Which I actually did like. I liked it, yeah. But it's just like there was so much nothing, just like suspense sounding music, and then suddenly it's like, oh hey, here's that from the soundtrack. There it is, right in the middle of it. Bam.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:34

Um, an ending that just feels jumbled. I mean, yeah, I kind of just ranted about that for a good like 20 minutes. All of it was jumbled. The ending was just as jumbled as the rest of the movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:42

Truly. Just that's and that's all it is. It's kind of a jumbled mess. Time for the surprises. There you go. Uh, some actually decent sets, but they were all buried under enough CGI and awful uses of green screen that I kind of forgot how good they were, so that was tough. The occasional practical effect, but again, lost underneath visual effects for the most part. Yeah. There were some cool creatures that they used a lot of CGI on top of that I'm like, if you could just dial that back, you would have had a pretty good looking monster. Um, sometimes going for a game accurate look is more distracting than just adapting how it how you adapting it how you wish to match your adaptation. Again, talking about like that girl who just looked like a cosplayer and just really stuck out in the middle of it, just really did not work for me. And then it just kind of thrusts horror upon you. No build to anything, it's just there, throwing this spaghetti at you all over and over again. Too much. What about you? What were your surprises?

SPEAKER_07 1:23:33

That they changed James to be redeemable. Like, I hate that the movie ended with James being a character that was at all good. Yeah, bizarre. No monster delay at all. No, just there. Yep. Uh, and like it was a strange ending that kind of had a blend of one of or two of the other endings, but for the most part, it was just kind of its own weird time loop thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:53

So that's all I got. Uh so verdict then. Time for our verdicts.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:57

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:58

Uh, I'm gonna say a flat out uh back after a couple of months. That was horrible. That was horrible. Christoph Gans, you kind of lost the sauce because I really feel like I really feel like it was there with Silent Hill 2006. And again, I haven't seen that since probably around when that movie was released, so it's been a minute for me. It's got like a 30% on Rotten Tomatoes, so I don't know. But I feel like you focused so hard on making it very accurate to game, if in your words, that you forgot about all the other stuff, like good writing, good acting, good CG, etc. It's just an onslaught of what should be scary, and it just ends up feeling very forced, and I'm numb at this point. So this time around, Return to Silent Hill was not worth the trip. Stay out of Massachusetts. Or Maine, I forget. He has a Massachusetts license plate, but apparently, according to the internet, Silent Hill is in Maine, so I don't know. Uh they're next to each other. It's in uh Europe. It's in your imagination.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:51

Uh, that was horrible, dude. It was so bad. Return to Highland Sill is not the return it claimed to be. It simply took an incredibly beloved video game, put it through AI, and spit out with this mess of a plot and disgrace to the source material. Don't waste your time here. Find something else to watch or just play the game.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

He he he he he he he it is me contrivio. Oh my god, where have you been? I've been hiding in the walls, but it is it is a silent tail, so I must stay very, very quiet. Would you like to have shut up, shut up, shut up, the baby's asleep.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:21

I'm sorry, he's there's a lot of asbestos in your walls there. Yeah, there's like six. Here's your trivia, please. No, it looks there's more like five vists uh in this in this in these walls. Stop. You weren't there for that. You can't. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:35

That was pretty good, I thought. So let's get into some of the trivia for the return to Silent Hill. Director Christoph Gans confirmed that dancers and acrobats portrayed the creatures while wearing prosthetic makeup following the production methodology established for Silent Hill 2006. Which is something that we had mentioned. We're like, those are definitely that's gotta be like a dance troupe. It absolutely was the way that they moved together in the board. Which was fun. We didn't touch on the nurses at all. They're pretty cool. We dug them, they were good.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:01

I thought that they were just fine. Yeah. Like they did their job.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:04

The practical approach prioritized physical performance over digital effects for the monster characters. Production retained dancers on set as reference performers, even in sequences where the final creature would receive partial or complete computer generated replacement. The reference performers provided lighting, scale, and movement guidelines for the visual effects teams during post-production. Gans had previously used the methodology on the 2006 production production to establish the unsettling movement characteristics that defined the franchise's signature creature designs. Julia Pelagatti portrays multiple creature roles across the production, performing the Armless Creatures, The Spider Lady, and one of the nurses. The breadth of her physical contributions across three distinct creature categories prompted the filmmakers to award her a main cast credit in the closing titles rather than placing her with the other supporting players or stunt credit blocks. Director Christoph Gans brought in movement coach Roberto Campanella to choreograph dancers, contortionists, and acrobats for the creature performances, establishing a physical performance framework within which Julia Pelagatti operated across multiple monster categories. The decision to elevate her billing to the main cast reflects the scope of her on-screen presence relative to other performers. That is kind of cool though. She was such a part of the movie with several different creatures that they were like, put her up in the name, up in the top middle with everybody else, rather than just like, oh, she's a stunt performer. The redesigned Pyramid Head, also identified as Red Pyramid, departs from the appearance featured in Silent Hill 2006 and Silent Hill Revelation 2012. I forgot there was another Silent Hill movie, which apparently is worse. I'm curious where that one sits in the ratings. This iteration clothes the upper body while leaving the arms bare in contrast to the bare chested design used in earlier films. The redesigned helmet incorporates a flat surface on the front side rather than the angled planes in previous versions. These alterations bring the creature's appearance significantly closer to the original depiction in the 2001 source game Silent Hill 2. Director Christoph Gans prioritized fidelity to the game's monster design. As part of his stated goal to produce a more faithful adaptation distinct from the previous films. Do you find anything about Revelations?

SPEAKER_07 1:28:07

Yeah, it was a sequel to Silent Hill 2006. Yeah. Like a direct sequel. Uh-huh. Sean Bean did not apparently die in the first one because stolen this one. Fucking Kit Harrington is the main character. Interesting. What's the score on that one? 8%.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:20

8%? So you're telling me there has not been a good Silent Hill movie, is what I'm hearing. There's not. Composer Akira Yamoka Yum Yamo Yamoka. Sorry about that. Who created the music for most of the Silent Hill video games, composed the score for the feature, and served as an executive producer. Music from the video game Silent Hill 2 was used as temp music during editing. The soundtrack included reimagined versions of familiar melodies from the source game in standout tracks like Chasing Laura and Moth Mary. The digital soundtrack album released on January 23rd, 2026, through laced audio and spans uh 50 tracks across 90 minutes. So you can go check out all of the wonderful music from this movie. And then finally, let me see. Roberto Campanella Campanella serves as movement coordinator for the creature performances rather than portraying uh Red Pyramid. British actor Robert Strange performs the role of Red Pyramid in the feature. Campanella previously portrayed the character in both Silent Hill 2006 and Silent Hill Revelation while also acting as lead choreographer on the first production. So this guy was the choreographer for it, and also for the first two movies was the actor for Pyramid Head. This is the first time that somebody else played Pyramid Head, which is interesting. The movement coordination role of the in the 2026 feature involved training dancers and acrobats in prosthetic makeup to achieve the physical performances of multiple monsters, which we kind of discussed in the lots. Most of the trivia was just about those creatures because that's basically the most interesting part of all movies.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:45

It was the most interesting part of the whole movie.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:48

But yeah, that's uh that's Return to Silent Hill. We beat it, it's done. We beat that video game.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:52

Yeah, we did. That was great.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:53

Yeah. I love that movie. Good time.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:55

It was such a good movie. I want to go watch it again.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:57

Yeah, I loved it so, so much.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:59

I liked it so much. I'm gonna go watch it.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:01

Wow, thanks as always for joining us here on the that was horrible. Been a minute, we missed you. Sorry for sorry, lives get so busy. We're gonna keep doing this no matter what, no matter what we're gonna keep going through those at us.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:10

Even if it's one episode a month, we're gonna do whatever we can to do it.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:13

We will find some time and get it.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:14

It's a random, random re random release. Random release. Uh do we know what algorithm was?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:20

Do we know what we're gonna do next time?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:21

We're doing doom or that other one.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:22

I kind of want to do Doom.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:23

Let's do Doom.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:24

We'll think we can't make any promises, but I think Doom.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:28

Doing Doom or the other one.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:29

We have three movies on Twitter.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:31

We have a couple that we're we're tossing up right now. So like look out for things like potentially Doom. Um uh Eli Roth is coming out with a movie called The Ice Cream Man. Is that right? And uh you asked that. Like you know. No, I I really don't. Is that what it's called? Is it okay? So Ice Cream Man.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:45

You silly goose.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:46

Eli Roth is coming out with a movie called That. Derek brought to my attention there is a different, I think it's a horror comedy, I want to say. It's a homedy. It's a homedy that is also called The Ice Cream Man. That is uh looks pretty goddamn ridiculous, totally podcast.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:58

It looks really bad, but here's the thing I really want to watch today.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:00

I do also really want to watch that one. We also could watch Silent Uh Psychokiller from this year as well. It's another 2026 release that was shit on. So we got a lot of options.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:10

A lot of options, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:11

But yeah, well, we'll we'll we'll keep at it. So um, if you like what we're doing here, catch up with us on our social medias. Those still exist anywhere you just look up that was horrible. You will find us. Uh, Derek, any other closing remarks? I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:23

I don't remember how I signed this podcast.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:24

I don't remember how to end this podcast, truly.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:26

Or do I say have a nice day? Well, I'll tell you drive safe.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:31

I'll tell you what we do. Go watch obsession. What we do normally say go watch obsession for sure if you haven't. Don't waste your time here, go watch obsession. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:38

If you just got to the end of this podcast, stop this podcast. Don't listen to what we're about to say, go watch obsession, then come back. Yeah, exactly. Get us a second view.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:46

Uh anyway, what we how we normally end the podcast, I guess. If we're here at the end, is we uh thank you for joining us. As always, Garfield be with you.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:54

Stay spooky.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:01

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