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Overcoming the Fear of Rejection with International Evangelist, Alejandro Arias || Part 01

Cecily Lachapelle

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In this powerful episode, I’m joined by international evangelist Alejandro Arias as we dive into a conversation on transforming the fear of rejection into unwavering confidence in who God created us to be. Alejandro shares his incredible journey, starting from a young age when he faced bullying and rejection for his bold faith and love of sharing Jesus with others. Despite the misunderstandings and criticism from both children and adults, Alejandro never wavered in his calling, knowing that God was shaping him for His purpose from the very beginning.

Together, we unpack the deep wounds that rejection can leave, and the subtle ways it can cause us to second-guess our identity in Christ if left unchecked. In our attempt to protect ourselves from the pain of rejection, we can unknowingly hinder the calling God has placed on our lives. But Alejandro’s story is a testimony to how God can repurpose our pain and strengthen our resolve, guiding us to find true confidence in His love and approval rather than in the world’s acceptance.

Whether you’ve struggled with self-doubt, fear, or feeling misunderstood in your calling, this episode will remind you that God’s love for you is constant, and His calling for you is worth pursuing—no matter who or what comes against you. Join us as we talk about overcoming the barriers that rejection can build, allowing God to repurpose that pain into courage, and stepping fully into the person He created you to be.

Key Takeaways:

  • God can turn the pain of rejection into a foundation for confidence and purpose.
  • Rejection can challenge our sense of self, but God’s love offers security and worth.
  • Early struggles in Alejandro’s life became part of God’s training for his calling.
  • Self-protective behaviors can actually distract us from God’s purpose if not surrendered to Him.
  • True confidence is found in embracing God’s love and approval.

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Overcoming the Fear of Rejection with Alejandro Arias || Part 01 || @Cecily.Lachapelle


00:00:00.040 from people that couldn't understand why

00:00:02.600 I was such a different child you know I

00:00:04.759 was not your typical child I was very

00:00:07.200 different and and the Lord placed his

00:00:09.320 calling upon my life ever since I was 5

00:00:12.000 years old so growing up you know uh

00:00:16.239 being raised in a Catholic

00:00:18.760 [Music]

00:00:25.279 Family hi everybody this is the higher

00:00:28.840 Pursuit podcast and I'm Cecily. I'm

00:00:32.960 joined today by a very good friend of my

00:00:36.440 husband and mine Alejandro Aras and he

00:00:40.239 is an evangelist to the Nations and it's

00:00:43.640 been our privilege to get to know

00:00:45.280 Alejandro and his lovely wife Rebecca

00:00:48.239 and their daughters carielle and Celeste

00:00:51.039 over the last few years so I was so

00:00:54.359 excited that I had the morning I had

00:00:57.680 Alejandro captive this morning

00:01:01.000 um to sit him down to do an interview

00:01:04.599 for the podcast for you all because

00:01:06.479 you're totally going to want to hear

00:01:08.560 what he has to share and so he and I

00:01:11.400 have been chatting this morning about

00:01:13.240 what he's going to share but first

00:01:15.080 before we dive into this podcast I want

00:01:18.799 you to subscribe right now and whatever

00:01:22.600 device you're listening to this on make

00:01:24.320 sure to hit that thumbs up button so

00:01:26.840 that we can start hitting the algorithm

00:01:29.200 so more people can hear the message that

00:01:32.640 Alejandra was going to share in today's

00:01:34.600 podcast about how he repurposed the pain

00:01:38.079 of rejection so before we get started

00:01:41.079 into that I'm going to have Alejandro

00:01:42.520 share a little bit with you all about

00:01:44.880 who he is so welcome thank you it is

00:01:48.280 such a blessing to share my heart and to

00:01:51.240 share this message and uh I'm very

00:01:54.280 excited to see what the Lord is going to

00:01:55.880 do through this podcast and uh we are

00:01:58.880 definitely very happy

00:02:00.520 to see how the Lord is Blessing your

00:02:02.280 book and your ministry and how the Lord

00:02:04.280 is opening so many doors and we just

00:02:06.360 want to tell the audience that uh this

00:02:08.479 book is amazing that you need to get it

00:02:10.959 uh if you haven't read it yet you need

00:02:13.080 to get it because this book is going to

00:02:14.599 help you for a purpose your pain my name

00:02:17.560 is Alejandra Aras and I'm an evangelist

00:02:20.680 uh I've been serving the lord since I

00:02:22.080 was 11 years old so this year uh we are

00:02:26.840 as a Ministry turning 25 years old so we

00:02:30.200 are celebrating our 25th

00:02:32.440 anniversary and we've been to 54 Nations

00:02:36.599 uh in five continents and uh there was

00:02:39.560 one time uh when I received the

00:02:41.599 prophetic word as a child and the Lord

00:02:44.120 spoke to me and said there will be a

00:02:45.920 time in your lifetime where you will

00:02:47.840 forget how many cities you've been to

00:02:49.760 and how many airports you will be to in

00:02:52.280 you know and so that prophetic word has

00:02:55.400 come to pass now looking back because

00:02:58.040 obviously I don't remember how many

00:02:59.360 cities I've been been to and how many

00:03:01.120 airports you I forgot the the count I

00:03:03.720 know how many nations have been to but

00:03:05.360 not the uhu the number of airports so

00:03:08.200 the Lord has definitely come through and

00:03:10.040 fulfill his word and we have seen

00:03:12.680 hundreds of thousands of souls come to

00:03:15.799 Jesus in the last 25 years and so the

00:03:18.480 journey continues it's exciting to see

00:03:20.519 what the Lord is about to do in 2024 and

00:03:23.319 moving forward over the next decade

00:03:26.360 everyone is believing that over the next

00:03:28.319 decade we're going to see a great gospel

00:03:31.439 explosion great gospel Harvest all over

00:03:34.000 the world and so we're excited to share

00:03:37.040 what God is doing and also to help you

00:03:39.519 today overcome you know some of those

00:03:42.680 issues areas in your life where you need

00:03:45.040 healing so for me it is a great blessing

00:03:47.319 to be on on your podcast awesome awesome

00:03:50.439 you know one of the reasons why we're

00:03:52.120 doing this podcast on repurposing our

00:03:54.519 pain is because many of you have a call

00:03:58.120 of God in your life many of you have

00:04:00.959 prophetic words where the Lord has

00:04:03.000 spoken to you about your purpose and

00:04:05.680 you're wondering why am I stuck what is

00:04:09.159 stopping me from moving forward why do I

00:04:11.680 keep cycling around the same mountains

00:04:14.400 having the same conversations repenting

00:04:16.720 of the same sins why do I keep ending up

00:04:19.959 back at square one when I know I'm

00:04:22.840 supposed to be moving forward and one of

00:04:25.560 those reasons could be that there is

00:04:28.840 pain that we have not repurposed pain

00:04:31.960 that is residual like mindsets that keep

00:04:35.160 going around and around that stop us

00:04:38.560 from moving forward and so today one of

00:04:42.160 those that we're going to talk in talk

00:04:44.120 with Alejandro about and delin is the

00:04:47.440 pain of the fear of rejection and so

00:04:51.520 today I'm just going to let Alejandro

00:04:53.680 talk about his experience with rejection

00:04:56.400 and how that could have stopped his

00:05:00.080 ministry before it even got started so

00:05:03.320 go ahead yes so I was sharing with you

00:05:06.400 outside of cameras what the Lord had to

00:05:09.400 do you know uh in my life as a child to

00:05:13.919 help me overcome that pain of rejection

00:05:17.280 obviously I never felt rejected by my

00:05:20.080 family um I did experience bullying at

00:05:22.960 school because I was a very different

00:05:25.039 child you know one time and I even talk

00:05:28.240 about it in my book boy preacher

00:05:30.199 there was one time where one of my

00:05:32.240 classmates his name was Diego is Diego

00:05:34.639 he's still alive he grabbed me by the

00:05:36.800 collar you know pinned me against the

00:05:38.440 Blackboard and he said oh I'm going to

00:05:40.680 give you a beating because I hate the

00:05:42.880 way you preach and I hate the way you

00:05:44.400 talk about Jesus all the time so he was

00:05:47.520 about to punch me in the face and thank

00:05:50.520 God the bell rang and I was safe by the

00:05:53.199 Bell and that's actually the subtitle of

00:05:55.400 the of that chapter Saved by the Bell

00:05:58.800 and I'm sure you're famili ear you know

00:06:00.919 of that show very popular in the '90s

00:06:03.000 you know being Saved by the Bell and

00:06:05.759 obviously I experienced bullying

00:06:08.520 rejection from my friends even from

00:06:10.800 people that couldn't understand why I

00:06:13.199 was such a different child you know was

00:06:15.400 not your typical child I was very

00:06:17.680 different and and the Lord placed his

00:06:19.800 calling upon my life ever since I was 5

00:06:22.479 years old so growing up you know uh

00:06:26.720 being raised in a Catholic Family uh you

00:06:30.120 know my family they were not they were

00:06:34.039 not faithful Catholic church goers they

00:06:36.639 were nominal but I always had this

00:06:39.319 strong faith in Jesus even as a child

00:06:42.720 even as a 2-year-old and this is part of

00:06:45.720 my testimony um I always had the strong

00:06:49.520 conviction that I wanted to serve God

00:06:52.039 that I wanted to tell my friends about

00:06:53.639 Jesus I wanted to learn more about Jesus

00:06:56.680 and so uh every time I went to mass and

00:06:59.599 you know this happened obviously when my

00:07:01.759 parents went to mass uh occasionally

00:07:04.759 they wouldn't go often they would go

00:07:06.599 like once in a blue moon but every time

00:07:08.599 I went to mass I would listen to the

00:07:10.319 priest and I would just you know just

00:07:12.879 savor every word I would just sit there

00:07:15.720 and listen intently and memorize every

00:07:18.560 single word and one time um I told my

00:07:21.919 parents you know I want to become a

00:07:23.280 priest I want to do this so I want to

00:07:25.560 have my play mass and so I actually did

00:07:28.319 it I had like a read enactment of the

00:07:30.879 mass uh in my father's garage and I

00:07:33.840 invited my friends you around the

00:07:35.599 community I went around knock the doors

00:07:37.280 and I said hey come come no come to my

00:07:39.599 mass and I invited all the kids in the

00:07:41.560 neighborhood and they thought it was

00:07:43.720 hilarious I was inviting them to a

00:07:46.440 Catholic mass you know but it was a play

00:07:49.000 mass and uh I just told my friends hey

00:07:52.199 just come around we're going to have a

00:07:54.759 time of prayer and we're going to have

00:07:56.319 communion they didn't know what that was

00:07:58.080 I say it's not exactly a recipe for

00:08:00.080 fitting in with the crowd

00:08:01.960 no but my my friends always thought that

00:08:04.840 I was the odd kid you know the they

00:08:07.680 actually had a nickname for me in the

00:08:09.560 community they call me the baby priest

00:08:12.560 you know that was my that was my

00:08:14.680 nickname in the community because I was

00:08:17.319 such an odd kid you know in fact my

00:08:19.840 parents thought that I was going to be a

00:08:21.639 priest because we have one in the family

00:08:24.199 from my mother's side they're all

00:08:25.599 Catholics strong Catholics and so

00:08:28.120 obviously they thought oh well I guess

00:08:30.440 this is in the family and we're going to

00:08:31.759 have another priest and my grandparents

00:08:34.080 were very supportive and very excited

00:08:36.839 and they thought oh wow there's another

00:08:38.559 priest in the family so they actually uh

00:08:41.320 you know they all came together gathered

00:08:43.839 some uh money they wanted me to be the

00:08:46.480 uh alter boy so they bought me the

00:08:48.200 clothes and all the stuff you know to be

00:08:50.839 the alter boy and I did it once you know

00:08:53.680 and the reason I did it once I think the

00:08:55.279 Lord just allowed me to do it once and

00:08:57.040 that was it it's because I actually

00:08:59.519 misplaced the you know the Priestly

00:09:02.360 garments or oh no the uniform I left it

00:09:05.800 in the taxi on the way back home oh no

00:09:08.360 so I I know it it was uh quite a bit you

00:09:11.560 know for my f for my for for my family

00:09:14.920 to save up that money to buy it you know

00:09:18.000 and so I just left it for a kid you know

00:09:20.560 all you wanted all I wanted was to

00:09:22.800 obviously um you know pleased my parents

00:09:25.480 and I didn't you know turn down the the

00:09:28.519 um offer you know to be the the alter

00:09:30.720 boy so I accepted it and I was actually

00:09:33.720 very happy because it was to do with my

00:09:36.079 calling it was to do with what I felt

00:09:38.079 like I needed to be doing but anyway yes

00:09:41.640 uh to go back to that question I did

00:09:44.160 experience rejection experienced it at

00:09:46.800 school I experienced it you know with

00:09:49.360 the bullying going on because my friends

00:09:51.760 couldn't understand the calling when I

00:09:54.440 uh turned seven I accepted the Lord as

00:09:56.680 my personal savior so I gave my life to

00:09:58.920 Jesus and then obviously my my family my

00:10:02.200 whole family and it happened because my

00:10:04.040 mom gave her life to Jesus so she become

00:10:06.279 you know she became a born again

00:10:07.640 believer then I accept to the Lord like

00:10:10.399 two weeks later I went to a rally and I

00:10:12.320 gave my life to Jesus and then I became

00:10:15.079 a born again believer and so my family

00:10:17.760 my whole family except my dad my dad

00:10:20.160 didn't give his life to Jesus until

00:10:22.160 years later yeah but uh that I'm saying

00:10:26.560 that because there was a shift you know

00:10:29.079 and and uh you know all I wanted to do

00:10:32.519 as a 5-year-old and as a six-year-old I

00:10:35.000 wanted to be be a priest and I wanted to

00:10:36.880 go to you know the uh Seminary and I

00:10:38.880 wanted to study and so then I accepted

00:10:41.160 Jesus and then there was a shift and

00:10:43.279 then I began to think maybe I should you

00:10:46.240 know go into preaching maybe I will

00:10:48.720 become a pastor one day maybe I'll

00:10:50.320 become a a preacher one day you know so

00:10:52.959 there was a shift in how I was thinking

00:10:55.279 and the Lord then began to fill me with

00:10:58.320 this hi everybody

00:10:59.800 while I hate to interrupt a good

00:11:01.240 discussion I do want to tell you about

00:11:03.720 my book repurpose your pain moving from

00:11:06.680 Pain to purpose and from instability to

00:11:09.320 firm faith in the book I share 10 pain

00:11:12.079 points that are common to most people

00:11:14.040 and I share my personal stories my

00:11:16.120 experiences with those pain points and

00:11:18.160 how I repurposed that pain then we dive

00:11:21.200 into what the word of God has to say

00:11:23.440 about how we repurpose that pain you

00:11:25.920 need to know that this book is really

00:11:27.560 two books in one because it includes

00:11:29.560 workbook activations to help you apply

00:11:32.279 the truth that you've learned to your

00:11:34.320 life so grab your copy today on Amazon

00:11:37.519 Christian book distributors or any place

00:11:40.120 books are sold spirit and and with the

00:11:42.800 word and I remember I was giving a new

00:11:44.959 testament and I wouldn't let go of that

00:11:47.040 new testament I would read it every day

00:11:48.959 you know take how old are you at this

00:11:50.880 point I'm seven yeah so so I'm taking it

00:11:55.360 to school reading it in my recess time

00:11:58.800 like and I became a nav evangelist

00:12:01.880 preacher just telling my friends about

00:12:05.120 Jesus all the time so obviously I had to

00:12:09.279 experience a lot of rejection you know

00:12:12.240 because my my friends couldn't

00:12:15.000 understand why I wouldn't want to play

00:12:16.120 with them you know instead of playing

00:12:17.959 with them I was like sitting there in a

00:12:19.920 corner reading my new testament you know

00:12:22.279 I had this sacred place so was a very

00:12:24.519 different very different childhood you

00:12:27.040 know to what you would normally pick

00:12:30.000 right uh of a childhood being and so I

00:12:34.240 remember I remember one time uh one of

00:12:38.160 my friends said so so what are you doing

00:12:41.360 and why don't you want to play with us

00:12:42.959 and why do you believe like you're

00:12:44.360 better than all of us just because you

00:12:45.800 read your new testament and I'm sure a

00:12:48.120 lot of Christian kids probably have to

00:12:51.800 uh endure that they have to listen to

00:12:53.680 those comments and it was very painful

00:12:55.639 for me because all I wanted was to get

00:12:58.279 you know gain more understanding wanted

00:13:00.279 to know more about Jesus and the limited

00:13:03.120 time I had school even during my school

00:13:05.120 recess I just wanted to sit there I was

00:13:06.839 basically enamored with the word you

00:13:08.600 know wow and so I wanted to read the

00:13:10.760 word read the New Testament so I did

00:13:12.720 experience that kind of rejection and

00:13:15.600 obviously coming from family members too

00:13:18.079 who uh didn't understand why I wanted to

00:13:21.880 preach like that you know they thought

00:13:23.880 oh maybe you should wait until you are

00:13:26.320 an adult until you go to school you

00:13:28.639 graduate

00:13:29.920 then you will preach and this is one

00:13:32.600 thing which I'll never forget and

00:13:34.519 obviously uh it's part of you know that

00:13:37.560 schooling you know of understanding what

00:13:41.040 God is doing in your life and why you

00:13:43.360 need to build your identity on Christ

00:13:45.639 because people will tell you things that

00:13:48.519 they're well-meaning they're well

00:13:50.320 intended they love you and they care for

00:13:52.800 you but sometimes they're not led by the

00:13:54.480 Holy Spirit and so they will tell you

00:13:56.000 things that are out of their emotion and

00:13:58.399 out of concern

00:13:59.880 because they think they're helping you

00:14:02.000 and so it's part of your you know your

00:14:05.639 your journey it's part of overcoming uh

00:14:08.480 in life is part of uh walking the

00:14:10.519 journey and I remember and with this I'm

00:14:12.399 going to finish this uh my pastor you

00:14:15.759 know my childhood Pastor one time he

00:14:18.880 called me out of a meeting because we

00:14:20.519 were doing this Bible um this Bible um

00:14:24.160 course like for 3 months you know and my

00:14:27.519 pastor said I see that you love to study

00:14:29.680 the word you come here every day youd

00:14:31.720 love to you know um talk to the other

00:14:34.920 students you're very engaged what would

00:14:37.120 you like to do what is it that you feel

00:14:39.120 the Lord is calling you to do and I said

00:14:40.920 I believe I'm going to preach the gospel

00:14:43.360 and he looked at me he said yeah but I

00:14:45.240 think you should go to school you should

00:14:46.839 get your degree you should you know uh

00:14:50.279 one day you will marry and one day when

00:14:52.160 you become an adult you will preach the

00:14:54.839 gospel and I remember as a child hearing

00:14:57.920 those words because I I knew the Lord

00:14:59.639 wanted me to preach now you know that's

00:15:02.639 how how I felt I strongly felt like the

00:15:05.000 Lord was calling me to preach then and I

00:15:08.000 felt devastated I went home and I was

00:15:10.480 crying and I was so sad and upset I'm

00:15:12.959 like God I want to serve you now not

00:15:16.440 when I'm an adult not when I graduate

00:15:18.560 not when I marryed because you know as a

00:15:20.360 child as a 9-year-old or 10-year-old

00:15:23.120 when you hear those words you know they

00:15:25.880 just they feel so distant yeah and and

00:15:29.120 that reality just feels so forign and

00:15:32.399 distant because you're a child you're

00:15:34.440 living your today you're not thinking

00:15:36.680 about your future so as a child to deal

00:15:40.000 with that kind of rejection was

00:15:42.480 difficult at times absolutely I bet

00:15:45.399 there are some people that are listening

00:15:46.680 to this right now and there were people

00:15:49.240 who were authority figures in your life

00:15:51.600 whether they were parents or older

00:15:53.360 siblings or teachers or coaches or

00:15:56.680 pastors priests who

00:16:00.040 uh who who spoke against or who

00:16:03.160 rejected your identity your purpose the

00:16:07.040 things that you knew in your heart that

00:16:09.120 God had specifically wired you to do and

00:16:12.160 be maybe uh you were a creative person

00:16:15.839 but your parents wanted you to be an

00:16:17.560 athlete or they expected you to live out

00:16:20.759 their dreams of being uh a doctor or a

00:16:25.160 lawyer and you wanted to become an

00:16:27.639 artist or or or you knew that God was

00:16:29.959 calling you to be an actor and to be a

00:16:32.519 Christian voice in in theater or drama

00:16:36.360 or you know whatever that whatever it

00:16:38.480 was that you knew that God had called

00:16:40.519 you to do and be that people couldn't

00:16:43.399 understand that didn't fit into their

00:16:45.639 Paradigm didn't fit into their

00:16:49.079 expectations and caused you to become

00:16:52.920 rejected by those people I'm sure that

00:16:56.360 it was a difficult thing and and a hard

00:16:59.040 ship for you and some of you listening

00:17:01.079 right now might be having memories and

00:17:04.280 having some flashbacks of things that

00:17:06.079 people spoke to you when you were a

00:17:08.280 child that might have lodged so deeply

00:17:11.919 in your heart maybe it actually stopped

00:17:14.880 you for moving forward and maybe this is

00:17:17.400 the season that the Lord is saying to

00:17:19.880 you I want you to go back I want you to

00:17:22.640 go back and forgive those people who

00:17:25.799 didn't understand who didn't know who

00:17:29.039 not filled with my spirit or we're not

00:17:31.280 praying about your destiny and your

00:17:33.360 purpose like we read in the Bible that

00:17:35.919 Mary even though she knew that she was

00:17:38.440 carrying the Son of God she still had to

00:17:40.600 store up in her heart as the mother who

00:17:44.080 was given the responsibility of raising

00:17:46.919 the Son of God she had to store up in

00:17:49.240 her heart all those words about the Lord

00:17:52.000 it was very interesting is you don't

00:17:54.880 hear Mary speaking a lot you don't hear

00:17:57.919 her spouting off until the very first

00:18:01.360 miracle of Jesus and then well and then

00:18:03.960 also when she does say to him why did

00:18:06.360 you you know do this to your father and

00:18:08.840 I when they had to go find Jesus but

00:18:11.640 she's harboring these things in her

00:18:13.080 heart so that she makes sure that she is

00:18:15.159 guiding and directing her son according

00:18:17.880 to the word of God and a lot of parents

00:18:19.760 don't do that and I'm sorry if your

00:18:22.120 parents didn't do that I know mine

00:18:24.039 didn't they did the best they could but

00:18:26.320 they weren't born again or spirit filled

00:18:28.559 and so they said some things and and did

00:18:32.360 some things that they thought were in my

00:18:34.400 best interest that were not that's right

00:18:37.400 talk about parents I I remember you know

00:18:40.440 and this part of my testimony too my

00:18:42.919 teachers they couldn't understand why I

00:18:44.919 was such a different child and why I was

00:18:46.799 preaching to my pencils I literally was

00:18:50.000 preaching to my pencils at one point in

00:18:51.640 my life and I know it was it it it was

00:18:54.080 like leaving in my own world and some

00:18:56.200 people say well that's a bit extreme why

00:18:57.880 were you preaching to pencils because my

00:18:59.960 my my I guess my friends didn't want to

00:19:01.559 listen to me so I wanted to get some

00:19:03.640 practice under my bell so whatever I saw

00:19:07.200 on TV I wanted to reenact it because I

00:19:09.720 had that creative mind and so I would

00:19:12.679 like lay down the pencils and preach to

00:19:14.760 the pencils and so I looked on the

00:19:16.559 outside like I was you know you know

00:19:19.039 talking uh giberish or you know or like

00:19:22.159 just uh speaking on my own like talking

00:19:24.760 by myself and people thought that's

00:19:26.559 weird and they immed mediately label me

00:19:30.840 you know like this kid has some kind of

00:19:33.120 mental issue he needs to see a

00:19:36.039 psychologist you know maybe a spectrum

00:19:38.919 of this or that and so that that's when

00:19:42.000 people start labeling you because they

00:19:43.799 cannot understand your identity they

00:19:46.600 cannot understand your calling or your

00:19:48.600 destiny they don't know what's going on

00:19:51.080 in the depth of your soul they don't

00:19:52.919 know what's going on in your heart only

00:19:55.320 Jesus only God who is forming you and

00:19:57.520 grooming you and raising you to become

00:20:00.919 an athlete an artist you know an actor

00:20:04.039 uh someone who is going to make a

00:20:06.120 difference someone who is already making

00:20:07.760 a difference and maybe you're looking

00:20:08.960 back and thinking that's me I can relate

00:20:11.000 with that so so basically my my parents

00:20:14.120 got a note from the school teacher you

00:20:15.840 know uh the teacher was so worried about

00:20:17.960 what she was seeing and also the fact I

00:20:20.039 wasn't eating much at school because I

00:20:21.559 was fasting oh my goodness I skip meals

00:20:24.480 every now and then and tell my teacher

00:20:26.760 I'm fasting today so my so the school

00:20:29.520 principal and the teachers were deeply

00:20:32.000 concerned about my nutrition and my

00:20:34.280 mental health because they thought I was

00:20:36.640 doing a lot of weird things you know

00:20:39.240 like oh hiding in a corner you know

00:20:42.600 talking to the panil things like that so

00:20:45.480 they said we we we suggested you take

00:20:47.720 your child to a psychologist and so my

00:20:50.799 mom was distressed and she play broken

00:20:53.760 because she never thought that I had to

00:20:56.159 go and see a psychologist you know out

00:20:58.760 of the three siblings she probably

00:21:00.640 thought my youngest you know brother was

00:21:02.720 the one who needed to see a psychologist

00:21:04.320 because he was a strong character you

00:21:05.799 know he had a uh in fact we're still

00:21:09.240 praying for him for him to have an

00:21:10.880 encounter with Jesus but anyway um I

00:21:13.640 never thought I had to see a

00:21:14.720 psychologist so anyway I went to see the

00:21:16.960 psychologist and I'm sitting there and

00:21:19.000 the psychologist is asking me all these

00:21:20.640 questions about you know life and what I

00:21:23.000 want to do and you know things like that

00:21:25.080 and my parents my family he's trying to

00:21:27.600 I guess study and build a case and then

00:21:32.120 um I don't know how I got into the

00:21:33.880 conversation of Jesus but he I think he

00:21:36.840 told me that he didn't believe in God so

00:21:39.200 the moment he said he didn't believe in

00:21:40.880 God that gave me ammunition sure to

00:21:44.880 start evangelizing evangelizing him so I

00:21:48.279 told him my story how Jesus healed me

00:21:50.240 because at this point I was already

00:21:51.880 healed you know when I was eight I was

00:21:53.960 diagnosed with cancer between my lungs

00:21:55.960 and my heart and that's part of my

00:21:58.039 testimony how Jesus healed me of a

00:22:00.440 deadly cancer so I I had this testimony

00:22:03.720 you know and I was telling people around

00:22:05.760 the school property you know around the

00:22:08.080 streets my family telling my neighbors

00:22:10.520 how Jesus healed me like I was becoming

00:22:12.919 little by little this boy preacher you

00:22:15.559 know just telling everyone about Jesus

00:22:17.919 so even in the neighborhood they knew me

00:22:19.799 as a boy preacher because uh the the

00:22:22.320 home groups uh our church home groups

00:22:24.799 every now and then would invite me to

00:22:26.279 come and share a story or uh scripture

00:22:29.320 anyway so so the psychologist you know

00:22:31.880 he had this long interview with me he

00:22:33.840 was studying me he asked me to write

00:22:36.279 some things down to to you know call her

00:22:38.640 in some things you he was like going

00:22:41.279 through his checklist right to see if I

00:22:43.279 was Autistic or if I had any kind of uh

00:22:46.039 you know mental issues and finally he

00:22:48.799 gives up and he calls my parents like an

00:22:51.600 hour later or 2 hours later and he goes

00:22:54.279 no this child has nothing wrong this

00:22:57.279 child is perfectly fine this child is a

00:22:59.919 good child he's got a good Destiny you

00:23:01.640 need to come and get him pick him up

00:23:03.559 he's fine wow so my parents came picked

00:23:06.840 me up and and and and that was the end

00:23:09.840 of that you know daily concern or you

00:23:13.360 know worry that maybe I had something

00:23:15.440 wrong mentally and uh you know they just

00:23:17.760 left me alone and they started praying

00:23:19.559 for me and they said well I guess that's

00:23:22.720 your calling that's your destiny and

00:23:25.000 we're going to support you see they

00:23:26.360 started supporting me they got behind me

00:23:29.000 and they started just doing everything

00:23:30.640 they could to support that calling it

00:23:33.039 was obviously a very different

00:23:34.760 experience for them and I'm sure if you

00:23:37.159 have a gift a child in your family or

00:23:39.679 somebody who is showing you know this

00:23:41.760 Behavior don't squash them don't step on

00:23:45.400 them you know just just encourage them

00:23:48.039 pray for them and let me tell you

00:23:49.960 something even if your child comes to

00:23:51.840 you and says hey I had a dream of Jesus

00:23:54.960 or I had a dream and I saw this instead

00:23:57.720 of you saying well honey oh that's great

00:23:59.840 that's awesome you know go back go back

00:24:02.240 to your better and you know we'll talk

00:24:03.720 about it later if you don't understand

00:24:06.080 it you know don't squash it give them

00:24:09.279 room or give a room to explain to talk

00:24:11.840 about those dreams because that's

00:24:14.520 important that will that will s seeds of

00:24:18.320 you know blessing that are going to

00:24:20.559 sprout in the future they're going to

00:24:22.520 Blossom in the future if you SE those

00:24:24.559 seeds you know if you believe in your

00:24:26.720 children's calling they're going going

00:24:28.640 to um you know they're going to remember

00:24:30.840 that in the future because you need to

00:24:32.960 become their cheerleader especially when

00:24:35.200 it comes to a calling from God you may

00:24:38.480 not understand why you know he or she is

00:24:41.320 choosing to do that or why the Lord is

00:24:43.960 visiting them while they're asleep but

00:24:46.480 instead of putting it to the side

00:24:48.559 casting it away or putting it in the

00:24:50.600 back burner like oh my child it's just

00:24:52.480 being influenced by too much I don't

00:24:54.480 know um Bible book or you know yeah you

00:24:57.799 know may maybe too many Bible shows or

00:25:00.880 maybe too many cartoons of angels you

00:25:03.080 know some sometimes parents tend to be

00:25:05.399 practical and I'm a parent I have two

00:25:08.000 girls and the other day my you know my

00:25:11.960 8-year-old said um actually she's 10 my

00:25:15.080 10-year-old said uh dad I had a dream

00:25:18.559 and this was amazing because uh you know

00:25:21.799 I've been praying and I've been asking

00:25:23.600 the Lord to show himself to carel wow in

00:25:26.880 a dream like to show himself you know so

00:25:31.000 she had a dream of Jesus and she

00:25:33.559 described Jesus in detail to me the next

00:25:37.159 day and I just said honey that's awesome

00:25:41.000 Jesus loves you he wants to reveal

00:25:43.559 himself to you so don't be concerned

00:25:46.440 about these dreams because these dreams

00:25:48.320 are beautiful yes and uh it was an

00:25:51.080 answer of prayer because she had been

00:25:53.240 struggling with nightmares and different

00:25:55.039 things and I just kept praying asking

00:25:56.600 the Lord please will you show yourself

00:25:59.440 to her and Jesus did so my friend in

00:26:02.200 order to overcome rejection no matter

00:26:04.480 where it's coming from no matter what

00:26:06.360 you know uh side of the family or who

00:26:09.200 the enem is using or maybe it's uh like

00:26:12.120 I said a religious leader or someone

00:26:13.799 that you look up to someone in your

00:26:15.320 school or someone in your workplace you

00:26:18.200 need to look up to him you need to set

00:26:21.000 your eyes on Jesus because he is the one

00:26:24.200 who has called you and given you a

00:26:27.279 Destiny and that Destiny will not go

00:26:29.840 away that Destiny will find you you will

00:26:33.039 find your destiny and you will walk in

00:26:35.919 in your destiny yes amen amen thanks for

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