Spirit-Led Business with Nadine Mullings (Part 1)

Join us on the Higher Pursuit podcast as we dive into an inspiring conversation with Nadine Mullings, an award-winning author, podcaster, and CEO of Nadine Mullings Marketing Agency. 

In this episode, Nadine shares her journey from the corporate world to entrepreneurship, emphasizing the power of spirit-led marketing and the importance of listening to the Holy Spirit in business. Discover how Nadine helps women of faith in business to market their brands strategically and authentically. Tune in for insights on overcoming doubt, embracing unique marketing strategies, and stepping into your God-given purpose. Don't miss this empowering episode!

2 Key Episode Takeaways:

Embrace Spirit-Led Business: Nadine Mullings emphasizes the importance of integrating faith into business practices. By listening to the Holy Spirit, entrepreneurs can discover unique marketing strategies that align with their values and purpose.

Overcoming Doubt with Faith: Nadine shares her journey of transitioning from the corporate world to entrepreneurship, highlighting how overcoming self-doubt and embracing faith can lead to personal and professional growth. 

Follow Nadine:

• Website: https://www.nadinemullings.com/
• Podcast: https://www.nadinemullings.com/podcast/
• Linktr.ee: https://bit.ly/45eVVi2

Chapters:

• Introduction to Spirit-Led Marketing (0:00 - 5:00)
• Nadine's Journey to Entrepreneurship (5:01 - 15:00) 
• Overcoming Doubt with Faith (15:01 - 25:00)
• Practical Steps for Spirit-Led Marketing (25:01 - 33:00)

Keywords:  Spirit-led marketing; Women in business; Faith and entrepreneurship; Nadine Murray; Marketing strategies; Overcoming doubt; Holy Spirit guidance;Business leadership; Women of faith; Entrepreneurial journey

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Spirit-Led Marketing
• 5:01 Nadine's Journey to Entrepreneurship
• 15:01 Overcoming Doubt with Faith

Transcript

Cecily Lachapelle (00:01.826)
Hi everybody, thank you for joining the Hire Pursuit podcast. I am so glad you joined us. If you're looking for content that will encourage you, build you up in your pursuit of Jesus, and yes, sometimes challenge you, then you have tuned in to the right podcast. In case you're new here, the series that we're in right now is called Repurposing Our Pain.

And today we are joined by a wonderful guest. I cannot wait for you guys to hear from her. It's Nadine Mullings. But before we get started, I want to tell you that Nadine is an award-winning author, podcaster, and speaker. She's the CEO of Nadine Mullings Marketing Agency and the founder of the Women, Faith, and Business community. She's passionate about assisting women of faith in business

to market and promote their businesses and their brands using online and offline spirit-led marketing strategies. She works with coaches, consultants, and content creators to help them be strategic, specific, and spirit-led so that they can attract new clients, get repeat business, and build a strong social network. She's also the host of the podcast,

Women Faith Plus Business podcast and one of me Dean's focuses that I absolutely resonate with is Listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit in your everyday workflow as well as in your strategic planning Guys, that is so good. That is not just for women That's for you men as well if you are a business owner if you are in business of any sort and We're if we're doing our planning

Even just going into our workday without the assistance of the Holy Spirit, who created all things, who knows all things, we have completely limited ourself. And so that's one of the things that she focuses on. Maybe we'll get to that in our conversation today. But Nadine, I am so excited to have you here. And thank you. Welcome to the podcast.

Nadine Mullings (02:21.341)
Thank you, Cecily. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited for our conversation. We already had a pre-conversation before we hit record, and it was awesome. So I know this conversation is going to be amazing. So thank you so much for the invite, and I'm looking forward to it.

Cecily Lachapelle (02:27.48)
Bye.

Cecily Lachapelle (02:35.976)
Excellent, excellent. Well, I just wanted to ask you a question. What is bringing you joy in this season?

Nadine Mullings (02:43.463)
Woo, what is bringing me joy? I think I'm in a season of transition. I'm transitioning a lot.

personally and also professionally so I have a lot of shifts, pivots, changes in this season and I think you have to find joy in the journey. So I think what's giving me joy right now is just the season that I'm in even though there may be some uncertainty, there may be some difference, there may be some you know when you're not sure of the unknown what's gonna happen. There can be a level of anxiety along with that but I've chosen to step into the joy of

Cecily Lachapelle (02:50.764)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (03:04.398)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (03:13.346)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (03:19.374)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (03:19.507)
the journey, right? So really always remember that the word joy is in the middle of journey. And so no matter what season you're in, you may not be in the same season as me, where I'm transitioning, pivoting both personally and professionally. But I think if you just pause and look for the joy in your journey, whatever season you're in, then you can find joy in it. So I'm finding joy in the transition, in the pivot, in the shift as I move to different things.

Cecily Lachapelle (03:48.569)
Girl, that is so good. And that speaks right to me right now. Literally, that was a message for me. don't know anybody else on the podcast, you give God bless, good. But that was for me because that's one of the things I've been crying out to the Lord for is saying, help me stay focused on the joy of the journey. And for me, I have to break it down into practical things and

Nadine Mullings (04:12.819)
Absolutely.

Cecily Lachapelle (04:17.944)
There have to be some practical sort of nets that I set for myself to keep myself locked into the right place so I don't go spinning off into anxiety or stress or freak out because I can't paint the whole picture. I don't know all the steps in advance. I don't know how everything's gonna work out and the uncertainty can make me feel anxious.

So I have to do certain things that keep me locked into joy. And one of those things that I've been doing, and I think I mentioned it on one of my earlier podcasts, was I have by my bed a book that is called The Joy of the Journey book. And I am forcing myself at night to write down things that the Lord has done that He did, even the teeny, teeny, tiniest little things.

Nadine Mullings (05:02.247)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (05:15.166)
of what the Lord did that day to help push the needle forward in a certain area. Because I can be looking at the big things that haven't happened yet or aren't happening yet and lose sight of all the little blessings that all add up.

Nadine Mullings (05:19.869)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (05:32.175)
Absolutely. I agree so much. think just the practice of gratitude, whatever it looks like for you, for your example, it was journaling and having the joy of the journey journal. And I had no idea when I talked about joy and journey that you have a whole journal next to your bed called joy and journey, joy in the journey. So that's like no coincidence. But yeah, I think whatever your gratitude practice is, it could be journaling. I've heard of a practice before where you have a gratitude jar. Like in the beginning of the year, you start off with an empty jar.

Cecily Lachapelle (05:37.432)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (05:52.031)
Right?

Nadine Mullings (06:02.139)
and then you just write notes for all the things you're thankful for throughout the year and put it in the jar and then the exercises at the end of the year, you just pour out all the notes you've placed in there throughout the year and you can read all the things you were thankful for throughout the year. So I think there's so many different ways to practice gratitude. could be gratitude walk. You walk in nature and just think about all the things you're thankful for. The fresh air, the trees, the birds, the sun, whatever the case may be.

Cecily Lachapelle (06:18.968)
Wow.

Cecily Lachapelle (06:23.278)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (06:32.209)
but really stepping into some type of practice, whatever that practice may look like for you, a jar, a journal, a walk, just consistently being in that space is powerful of gratitude and helps you to find joy in your season and joy in the journey for sure.

Cecily Lachapelle (06:36.194)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (06:43.256)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (06:48.458)
Yes, yes, so good. Well, we're off to a meaty start, Sista. We kind of knew it was going to go that way. That's so awesome. Well, so for people who might not know you, can you share a little bit about your background and what led you to step out of the corporate financial world into marketing and entrepreneurship?

Nadine Mullings (06:57.051)
Exactly.

Nadine Mullings (07:14.737)
Yeah, definitely. So I'll start off the story with saying at a very young age, I want to say maybe nine years old, know when we're young and we're playing imaginary games of what we want to be when we're older, like doctor, lawyer, teacher, all those things. I was playing business woman and I didn't don't even fully know what business woman was. Right. I didn't know what being an entrepreneur was, but I knew I wanted to create and be creative and own and be my own boss at that young age. I knew that much ownership, be my own boss and being creative.

Cecily Lachapelle (07:37.186)
Mmm.

Yeah

Nadine Mullings (07:44.613)
And you can find all of that in business ownership and entrepreneurship. So I would say the spirit or seed was planted at a very young age. But I took the traditional path. My parents were like, get a degree, get an education, get a good job, get a good paycheck, all the goods, right? Make sure you follow this path so you can live a good life. So I kind of followed the path. Get an education, got a degree, got a good job, worked for a financial institution for over 15 years doing marketing.

Cecily Lachapelle (08:00.834)
Yep.

Cecily Lachapelle (08:04.972)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (08:13.741)
Wow.

Nadine Mullings (08:14.567)
promoting and actually really enjoyed the job. actually got a degree in marketing and worked in marketing and enjoyed what I was doing. That wasn't the typical. Sometimes we get a degree and then don't work in what we got a degree in, but I did. And I enjoyed the job, what I was doing. I was making decent money, but it just so happens in 2011, at least in the US, in the economy was a little bit rocky back then. And my particular position was being eliminated. And they reached out to me and said, Hey, we're eliminating your position, but we want you to

Cecily Lachapelle (08:25.099)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (08:28.878)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (08:41.4)
Wow.

Nadine Mullings (08:44.437)
stay, you can stay and be transferred to the mortgage department for half of your salary, but you have an opportunity to make it up in commissions, you know, with mortgage, or you can take a severance package and be on your way. And I really felt that severance package was God pushing me on that path that I had when I was younger, that entrepreneurial business ownership. And he was like, okay, you've done your time in corporate, you learned whatever you needed to learn while you were in corporate, now is the time to go

Cecily Lachapelle (09:02.392)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (09:14.417)
on this entrepreneurial journey and this business ownership path that you've always kind of imagined, right? So I took the severance package as seed money and I was like, okay, well, I'm going to use this money as seed money to start my venture. And so officially, I think I took like a month off and went on vacation and said, now, am I really going to do this? Is this really going to be what my life looks like? And so after I took that vacation and then came back, I officially started in 2012. And so it's been over 13 years.

Cecily Lachapelle (09:20.344)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (09:24.802)
So good.

Nadine Mullings (09:44.33)
now as we record in 2025 and it has evolved it has changed it has grown it has so many things but one thing is that I've always had a heart for women being successful in business because I feel when a woman has a successful business is a ripple effect it's a ripple effect in her family in her community in her country there's so much good that we do when we have money and we're successful at business so I always had a heart to serve women to help women

Cecily Lachapelle (09:47.692)
Well.

Cecily Lachapelle (09:57.711)
So good.

Cecily Lachapelle (10:02.146)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (10:14.133)
And of course my background was marketing and I knew when women can market successfully, get themselves out there successfully, then their business can be more successful. So I've always had a heart for the two things, women and marketing, and that's why I started my own marketing agency.

Cecily Lachapelle (10:29.771)
awesome. That is awesome. So the the people that you serve that you feel the most called to serve in this season, how would you define that person?

Nadine Mullings (10:40.613)
Yeah, so this season, as I mentioned, it has evolved over time, always started with women, but it's kind of like an onion. God kind of reveals layers each couple of years and it goes deeper and deeper. it started off with women in general, then it was women of faith because a lot of the work that I do is very spiritual. I pray with my clients. We talk about the Holy Spirit. I talk about spirit led strategies. So I really had to focus in on not just women, but women of faith, believers who understand prayer and, you know, wouldn't think it's crazy, you know, all these

Cecily Lachapelle (11:06.51)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (11:10.517)
strategies that I share with them so it evolved to women of faith and then over the last couple of years it's been women of faith who have messages that God has given them to share in the marketplace and those messages could be in the form of a book like God has given them a book to write and share that message out in the world or it could be in the form of their voice as far as like a podcast and getting their message out audio so wherever it's a spoken word through audio or a written word through the book really assisting

Cecily Lachapelle (11:23.854)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (11:39.15)
Mm.

Nadine Mullings (11:40.419)
them and I feel called to work with them to get their message out there so they can reach the people that they're supposed to reach through the strategies that we come up together along with the Holy Spirit. So in this particular season, it's women of faith in business who have messages in the forms of books and podcasts that are trying to reach more people with their God-given message.

Cecily Lachapelle (12:02.894)
That's awesome. So you're kind of like a marketing midwife.

Nadine Mullings (12:06.579)
Exactly, I'm birthing the... Well, I say I'm birthing it. I think I'm more of like helping it grow. Exactly, helping them birth it and grow to maturity to reach more people.

Cecily Lachapelle (12:11.734)
You're helping them birth it. Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (12:19.788)
Yes, yes, because I know how it feels to know that you are pregnant with something that God has placed on the inside of you. And you know that the time is imminent, that you need to prepare, you need to be ready. And I mean, can only think about when I had my first child.

In the hospital, the day that we were leaving, the nurse came in, gave Ashley a bath. She was so good at it. She just takes this baby that's like this little floppy noodle and gets her all cleaned up and everything and then hands her to me and said, you got your car seat? Okay, bye bye. Why don't you have your husband pull around to the front? And I'm like, wait, you're gonna let me take this child home? Do you know? I've never had one of these before. Can you come home with me?

Nadine Mullings (13:14.024)
Exactly. Exactly.

Cecily Lachapelle (13:16.302)
Like I was freaked out and scared. And how great it was that my mother-in-law came almost as soon as we got home and she stayed with me for a week. And it was amazing just watching someone who knew, had the comfort, had the calmness to not do everything for me, but to sit there over my shoulder and give me the confidence, give me the tips, all of that. And...

Nadine Mullings (13:19.729)
Yep.

Cecily Lachapelle (13:45.287)
I just imagine that you are doing that for so many women. You're not only helping them deliver this ministry, the business, the podcast, the book, whatever it is that God has given them as their message, and then probably helping them keep this thing alive until they know how to do it on their own.

Nadine Mullings (14:07.715)
Exactly, exactly.

Yeah, I think that's an awesome analogy because I do feel that is the role the mother the role that your mother-in-law had, you know with with your daughter is the role I feel that I play for people because I'm not like the midwife helping them birth it like push push and you know that type of support but now it's here, you know, for example for a book a lot of times people launch their book out into the world and then it's crickets they put all of it into the launching but they forgot how to steward it now how to let it grow

Cecily Lachapelle (14:25.112)
Yeah. Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (14:39.618)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (14:40.725)
how to share it consistently. So I'm definitely the role of your mother-in-law. like, okay, now it's here, it's birthed, it's out in the world. You have the podcast, you have the book. Now let's keep it alive, like you said, and let it flourish, flourish and thrive. And what are the ways that we can make sure that this message is flourishing and thriving and staying alive and reaching the people that it's supposed to reach? So yeah, I definitely feel that is my role is after all the work has been done to put public.

Cecily Lachapelle (14:53.548)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (15:10.645)
on your podcast or after all the work's done to push public published on your book now the real work begins because you got to keep it alive and not only keep it alive make it thrive make it reach the people let it do the work that wasn't intended to do in the world and in the marketplace

Cecily Lachapelle (15:21.165)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (15:31.971)
Yes, and as somebody who just wrote a book and it went live, it'll be a year and a half ago, and somebody who just launched a podcast, I jokingly say I just spanked the baby on this podcast, but I can completely relate to the need, not just emotionally and spiritually, but the technical aspect and the marketing aspect. I'm not a marketer, I'm an author.

I'm a podcaster, but if nobody knows I wrote a book, then nobody's gonna hear the message that God put in my heart. If nobody knows that this podcast exists, then nobody's going to hear the message that God put in my heart and the hearts of the people that I interview. So marketing is a very key and sometimes frustrating and scary aspect of everything that God has called me and other people like me to do.

Nadine Mullings (16:10.856)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (16:19.898)
Set.

Nadine Mullings (16:26.577)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (16:31.266)
So having someone like you is critical.

Nadine Mullings (16:34.343)
Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. And I always simplify marketing. think sometimes people get overwhelmed by marketing by all of the things. The first thing people say, social media. Like, that's just like a piece of the pie. It's not your entire marketing pie. But I simplify and say marketing is just simply three things. Creating awareness, making sure that you're attracting the right people and then having them take action. So whatever you're doing is to create awareness for your book, your business or your brand. Then it has to be attractive.

Cecily Lachapelle (16:41.25)
Mm-hmm.

Nadine Mullings (17:04.821)
You have to say, I resonate with that message. Oh, I understand. So how are we making sure that it's attractive? And then how are we making sure they take action? Are we telling them to sign up? we telling them to call? What is the action step that we're allowing them to do so they can come into your world and hear your message on a deeper level? So marketing is simple. Break it down to the three A's. Awareness, attraction, and action. That's all. And you can do it in so many different ways. There's 1,001 ways to market.

Cecily Lachapelle (17:10.862)
Hmm.

Nadine Mullings (17:34.693)
but we want to find the ones that are right for you, right? For how you are designed for the message God has given you. It's very unique. Somebody right next to me could have a similar message, but they're designed differently and the way they're supposed to market is different, right? So that's why it's important to really step into your design, how God designed you and really figure out what marketing strategies and techniques are going to work for you and stay in your lane. Stay in your lane and you'll reach the people that God has called you to serve.

Cecily Lachapelle (17:34.798)
Mm-mm.

Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (17:47.64)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (18:01.708)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (18:04.677)
in the marketplace.

Cecily Lachapelle (18:06.412)
That's so awesome. We could do a whole podcast just on marketing. And I'm sure you've done hundreds of your own and been interviewed by so many people about it. But I was actually going to chat with you about this at the end of the podcast, but I think it's a good segue to talk about the, it's She Elevates Media, correct? Is that the group? What is that? Tell us about it.

Nadine Mullings (18:19.047)
Exactly.

Nadine Mullings (18:27.643)
Yes, absolutely. Yes.

Yeah, so I talked about being in the season of transition and I'm actually going to be Closing Nadine Mullings marketing agency and transitioning to she elevates media So she elevates media as a class Collaborative and collective group of women that have really been given the same message message and mission to help other women to Spread their message and their mission and we all come to the table with different skill sets For example, my skill set my strong suit is strategy

Cecily Lachapelle (18:57.964)
Awesome.

Nadine Mullings (19:00.949)
and planning. So I come to the table helping our clients with that strategy and planning piece. Another one of the women, their strong suit is actually producing, really putting the information out there, allowing people to publish. And that is their strong suit. So she's coming to the table with the publishing aspect. Third person is coming to the table with producing, producing, sorry, third person is coming to the table with publishing. So she has all the skill sets and everything getting you published on

Cecily Lachapelle (19:02.062)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (19:19.694)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (19:30.821)
on the right platforms, polished, all the things to really birth the things out there. Like we talked about the books, the podcasts, the summits. She's coming to the table with that expertise. And the fourth and final woman, because it is a collective of four women, is promotion. She's an expert about getting people on podcasts, helping them to spread their message. And we realized if we come together as a collaborative, as a collective, to help people plan, produce, publish, and promote, whether it's a book,

Cecily Lachapelle (19:40.525)
Wow.

Cecily Lachapelle (19:59.979)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (20:00.725)
a podcast or a summit, there's amazing things that we can do in the world. So I am now transitioning into She Elevates Media and really helping. like to call them esters. We like to help all the esters out there that have these amazing messages and they just need the support. They need the team. They need the help. They need the mother-in-laws, like you mentioned, to help them with their message. And that's what She Elevates Media is all about. We are that team that will help you, you know, really get your message

Cecily Lachapelle (20:19.106)
Yeah. Yes.

Nadine Mullings (20:30.766)
out there in the world.

Cecily Lachapelle (20:32.152)
That is fantastic. So as everyone can probably already understand, I am going to have all of Nadine's contact information in the show notes, along with how to get in touch with She Elevates Media and all the things. So don't you fear, I got you covered. You're going to be able to connect and get involved in all of those resources. So we actually had talked in a prior conversation a few weeks ago,

about the fear that you had experienced when you were transitioning out of your corporate job into what you are currently doing now is something a fear I could completely identify with because I experienced the same thing when I stepped out of the safety and security of my nine to five to go into doing basically working for myself. So share with us those

fears and what were some of the specific ones that you wrestled with as you considered leaving your corporate job?

Nadine Mullings (21:37.875)
Well, the first fear was, I do it? Can I actually do it? Can I actually make a living? Do this thing, you know, even though God placed it in my heart at such a young age, there was doubt, right? think that I think the biggest thing that I struggle with is doubt, doubt that I can do it, doubt that I can serve, doubt that I'm doing the right thing, all these doubts, right? And we have to understand that that doubt is coming from the enemy, right? I think about when Jesus was tempted in the garden and he says,

Cecily Lachapelle (21:41.528)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (21:53.506)
Mm-hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (22:03.756)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (22:07.829)
If are the son of God, if you know that if word is always plant planting doubt is making me making us think well, what if I'm not well, maybe I'm not strong enough. Maybe I'm not good enough. Right. So once you start having that if you have to counter it, right, you have to counter that doubt. And one of the biggest things that helped me counter it and I will admit that I still struggle with it today. It's not one of those one and done. It continues to come up. So it continues to be something you have to battle. But one of the big

Cecily Lachapelle (22:32.632)
Yeah. Yep.

Nadine Mullings (22:37.749)
biggest things that helped me shift was I thought about the three Hebrew boys, right? And when they were faced with obstacles and they were faced with a decision of what they wanted to do, whether they faced the fire or they bowed down, they said, even if, even if God doesn't come through for me, I know this is what I am supposed to do. So I had to change that if to even if, right? if, you know, it doesn't go the way that I want.

Cecily Lachapelle (22:54.328)
There you go.

Cecily Lachapelle (23:01.538)
Yes. Come on. Yes.

Nadine Mullings (23:07.679)
even if I stumble over my words, even if I make a mistake, even if I know that this is the right thing and what God has called me to do so I will continue on this path even if. So I think that was a big shifter for me in managing my doubts and the what ifs that it really is more like a what if this, what if that, the what ifs that come up in life and changing your what if to an even if so you can have the confidence to move forward regardless of the self doubt you may have.

Cecily Lachapelle (23:11.79)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (23:17.39)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (23:22.008)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (23:30.446)
Mm.

Cecily Lachapelle (23:36.015)
That is so good. So Tribe, I hope that you heard what Nadine just said. Change your what if to an even if. That is, that's mug worthy right there. Or t-shirt worthy. Because we can carry that with us. How many what ifs do we have? What if I'm not enough? What if I don't know how to do this? What if I don't have enough money? What if I...

stumble and fall or make mistakes. But I love the even if, even if I don't have enough money for a season, God will provide. Even if I don't know what I'm doing, I'll learn it. God will send helpers to teach me and to show me. Even if I stumble and make mistakes, I will learn through those mistakes because every person who is successful has learned through their mistakes and kept on going. I love that.

Nadine Mullings (24:30.097)
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And as you

Cecily Lachapelle (24:32.108)
I'm so packing that in my back pocket. That is brilliant. That's money.

Nadine Mullings (24:37.531)
Yeah, and as you refrained each one of those it kind of gave me chills honestly as I was listening because even in your voice there was a sense of confidence right when you said the what ifs there was a there was a sense of doubt what if I fail what if I don't do it right what if even the way it was said made you feel like you're in doubt but when you started saying even if you gave me chills you're like even if I fail I know that God has my even if it was like the sense of confidence was really there so it really just shifts your mind number one and

Cecily Lachapelle (24:46.093)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (25:07.106)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (25:07.665)
your thinking to be able to confidently move forward even when you're struggling with doubt, right? Because I'm not saying it eliminates it because it doesn't. I struggle with it consistently, but it allows you to work through it as you reframe and you change your mindset and you approach it. And I just loved your voice as you said, the even ifs. I was feeling the confidence with the even ifs.

Cecily Lachapelle (25:14.208)
Yes.

Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (25:29.934)
We are.

Cecily Lachapelle (25:33.379)
And you know, in my book I write about in the chapter of repurposing our fear that we're not ever gonna get to a time in our lives until we go to be with the Lord, where we're not going to be assaulted by circumstances from the outside or weaknesses and challenges that are internal that could make us afraid. It's what are we going to do when we're looking in the face of that Goliath?

We're either going to be the children of Israel hiding behind rocks saying, wow, he's big. He's going to kill us. You know, we're dead. We're doomed. We're not enough. We'll never make it. Or we're going to be like David and say, yeah, he's a really big dude and I'm little and I've got some rocks in my sling. But God, but God, I'm not in this alone. And that's how we reframe those moments of fear.

Nadine Mullings (26:24.327)
yes. yes. yeah. yeah. right.

Cecily Lachapelle (26:31.274)
And with that, but God, yes, I don't deny what I'm looking at in front of me. I'm not gonna deny the medical report I just got. I'm not gonna deny the fact that the credit card bill came and I need to really look at my spending. I'm not gonna deny the fact that my husband and I have been angry to each other and have not been taking the time to resolve this because we're afraid of having this honest conversation. I'm not gonna deny the fact that my kid might be on drugs.

Nadine Mullings (26:56.764)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (27:01.186)
I'm not going to deny the thing I'm afraid of. I'm going to face it with God.

Nadine Mullings (27:03.921)
Yes. Yes, exactly. I love that. It's so powerful. And it also reminds me of scripture where he talks to Joshua about being bold and courageous as he's about to step into the promised land. This is he said it three times. I don't know. I'm never good at the address of scripture. Right. I can't tell you.

Cecily Lachapelle (27:15.074)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (27:23.214)
That was Joshua one girl. You're right on.

Nadine Mullings (27:24.955)
Yeah, yeah, he said it three times to be bold and courageous and we always know in scripture when something is repeated three times there's a reason for it. It's emphasis of what needs to happen and he's not just speaking to Joshua. It's whatever promised land that we're stepping into. He's saying it three times to us, right? Be bold and courageous. Why did he choose those words? Because it's what we need to step into. We have to step into being bold and we have to step into being courageous in order to step into the promised land, right?

Cecily Lachapelle (27:39.992)
Come on.

Nadine Mullings (27:54.821)
So it's required for each and every one of us, no matter what your promised land is, because our promised lands look different. It's different for each and every one of us. So as you were speaking, it was like, yeah, and that's exactly why God tells us to be bold and courageous, because we have to be. We need to be in order to step into the thing that he has promised for us, right? It's not easy, but we have to be bold and courageous in order to step into it.

Cecily Lachapelle (27:54.84)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (28:20.206)
Absolutely, absolutely. So I'm sure there was a moment of breakthrough for you. So we all have this like wrestle, wrestle, wrestle. And when we're children of God, we sometimes wrestle away from God's presence, but mostly we're trying to wrestle our way towards God's presence and to get to a place where we can quietly hear his voice. And once we get the, you know, this is the way walkie in it, we can walk in faith. So tell me about that breakthrough moment where you said,

I'm doing it afraid.

Nadine Mullings (28:53.213)
Yeah, I think the biggest breakthrough business wise was stepping into and not being fearful of sharing my faith on my business platform. Yeah, that was a big breakthrough for me because initially I was just talking about marketing in general, know, coming from a marketing space, background, corporate education wise, it was easy for me to step up and talk about marketing. But in the background, I was thinking about there's a lot of faith involved in this. There's a lot of faith that people aren't necessarily talking about publicly.

Cecily Lachapelle (29:00.823)
Ooh, that's good.

Nadine Mullings (29:23.207)
few people. Kim Garst was one of them I'll shout out to in the early days on the internet women that I saw combining faith and business and influenced and inspired me. So Kim Garst was one of them also Marshawn Evans Daniels and I was like wow she can talk about business and talk about faith on her platform. So for me God really worked on my heart to say and you can do the same thing too because not only can you do the same thing that's what I'm requiring or requesting you

Cecily Lachapelle (29:42.691)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (29:53.029)
you to do is to combine your faith and your business and speak openly on your business platform about both of them. That was a huge breakthrough for me because I came from corporate, as we mentioned, and in corporate, you don't combine the two, especially with finances. You don't talk about politics or religion when you're talking about you want to open a checking account or a savings account or open a CD with us. You're not having those other types of conversations. So I took that mindset into my business. You don't combine the two. You don't talk about the two.

Cecily Lachapelle (30:03.405)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (30:07.267)
Mm-mm.

Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (30:22.933)
But God worked on my heart for years and was like no you do and this is actually your business your platform and you can show up Just exactly the way that I tell you to show up and I'm telling you to show up talking about me I'm telling you to show up using the word of God on your platform using the name Jesus Christ on your platform It was an adjustment right because I speak about it on my podcast and everyone has a different journey some people it came easy for them to do other people struggled with it, you know They had to change their mindset around it for me. I

Cecily Lachapelle (30:40.514)
There you go. Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (30:52.913)
to change my mindset around it because of my corporate background and thinking that it's supposed to be separate. So I think that was the biggest breakthrough for me and that changed a lot in my business, how I operate, my messaging, everything. It changed everything for me once I allowed myself to realize that it's not two separate things. It's actually a combination of your faith in business and you can share about it publicly. That was probably my biggest breakthrough in my business.

Cecily Lachapelle (31:21.454)
That's awesome. That is so good. I'm sure there must have been a moment of, mean, because with Instagram and Facebook, TikTok, even X to some degree, there's all different kinds of content. But when it comes to LinkedIn, I always felt like, well, does God even belong on LinkedIn? Like, is that okay? Is it all right? And I started following this man whose entire platform.

is helping Christians develop their voice on LinkedIn and get past that lie that God doesn't belong on LinkedIn. Where that you will get, obviously we think he does, but that the general consensus of the world is, hey, look, if you want to talk about your faith, just don't do it here. This is a business platform. Don't abuse the sanctity of this business platform and that you kind of get

Nadine Mullings (32:11.833)
Exactly. Yep.

Cecily Lachapelle (32:19.884)
The haters. How did you approach that?

Nadine Mullings (32:21.143)
Exactly. That was something I was fearful of because I don't like confrontation. I don't like trolls. I don't like the comment section. I don't want to be arguing with someone. So honestly, that was a fear that I had.

but I also felt like I was called to speak up and you can't deny when you are called to speak up You can't let fear take over and to be honest i've probably been been combining faith and business now for over maybe eight years or more and i've I i probably dealt with one person who was actually a person of faith and i'll share this story because I feel led to share it maybe it will help someone out there and it was a person of faith that told me I shouldn't have someone in my summit because that person was a

Cecily Lachapelle (32:48.856)
Wow.

Nadine Mullings (33:05.809)
New-aged person and had a new age thought and perspective of things and there was a little of I wouldn't say tension but a back-and-forth is like and I thought to myself who are you to tell me who I can have on my summit and my platform and sometimes you know people of faith can be very judgy and critical and of what you're supposed to deal with or what you're supposed so that was probably the only like little attention that I had Yeah

Cecily Lachapelle (33:22.412)
Mm-hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (33:30.124)
Interesting and in the reverse way that you would have thought.

Nadine Mullings (33:33.465)
Exactly. It's I wouldn't have thought it would be coming from someone of faith, right? Telling me that this person is new AG and I shouldn't have and the person had a powerful message and I thought was awesome addition to the summit and I'm more open minded. I'm not one of those restricted Christians like they have to be certain way or type of person. So that was probably the biggest like and I don't even want to call it a confrontation because it wasn't it was the biggest, you know comment that I had from someone I didn't really experience the negative backlash or

Cecily Lachapelle (33:37.986)
Wow.

Nadine Mullings (34:03.409)
trolls or the things that I thought I would experience. So that was just fear stepping in to stop me from taking this path in this direction and we can't we can't let that happen.

Cecily Lachapelle (34:06.286)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (34:13.894)
Mm, that's awesome. That is so good. That is so good. So what are some of the other key messages that God has put on your heart for Women of Faith plus business? Some of the podcasts that you've done that you thought, okay, this wasn't just a podcast episode. This is actually a key strategy for me or a key tool that I bring to the table.

Nadine Mullings (34:44.435)
would say my banner message that I bring to the table that's probably different than other people is that Spirit-led marketing. people approach marketing different than I do because I always feel that we are, the Holy Spirit is gifted to us for everything. Even scripture tells us, know, so many things that the Holy Spirit is for us. And how can we deny that and not mention it when it comes to business, number one, that were guided, directed,

Cecily Lachapelle (34:51.81)
Yeah, go into that.

Cecily Lachapelle (35:02.467)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (35:14.389)
everything by the Holy Spirit as believers in business as women of faith How could we deny that as men of faith as Christians? So I really felt like we needed to talk more about the Holy Spirit and the gift that Jesus was like when I leave there will be something even better than me because it's inside of you and he's picking it up so much he's talking about it so much he's so excited about it why are we not aware of it and acknowledging it and

Cecily Lachapelle (35:21.069)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (35:28.343)
Now.

Cecily Lachapelle (35:32.942)
Yeah. Come on.

Nadine Mullings (35:44.281)
and using it in all aspects of our lives. Not in the box of church or home or personal, but business too. And that includes marketing, how we approach marketing, how we do marketing. Asking the Holy Spirit, is this actually a strategy for me? What is the best way to go? The Holy Spirit is there to guide, direct, instruct us. So we should get guidance, direction and instruction on our marketing initiatives. And I'll share this one thing about Spirit-led marketing is a lot of times Spirit-led marketing does not look like what

Cecily Lachapelle (35:47.672)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (35:51.939)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (35:55.757)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (36:08.194)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (36:14.175)
your industry looks like. So if everyone in your industry is doing A, Holy Spirit might tell you to do X, Y, or Z. And then you'll, yeah, you'll think, but God, no one's doing X, no one's doing Y, no one's doing Z. That's a little unusual. That's a little bit weird. That's usually a Holy Spirit strategy, right? That actually is a God thing. So I think what makes Spirit-led marketing different sometimes is sometimes you're not doing something that anyone else is doing in your industry. It's unusual.

Cecily Lachapelle (36:21.292)
Yeah, say that.

Cecily Lachapelle (36:31.278)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (36:44.225)
It's different. It's scary. It's you know out there and that's kind of what I teach my clients to lean into I teach them to lean into What's already given to you inside? To market and promote yes experts gurus coaches are good, but they are external the first thing you should be looking at is internal guidance Go with that internal guidance and then internal guidance will actually point out who you need to be working externally with to help

Cecily Lachapelle (36:45.198)
you

Cecily Lachapelle (37:01.356)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (37:05.92)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (37:14.035)
you guide you teach you, know, the coach, the expert, the guru, internal guidance will actually tell you that. But you already have that God given strategy inside of you, that spirit, letting strategy. So how are you taking time out? And I know you love practical ways. So I want to just quickly practically share how you can do that is really just pausing and taking time to be still and listen. And one of the techniques I always use is journaling. talked about journaling before, and you can start off by saying,

Cecily Lachapelle (37:15.662)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (37:29.635)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (37:42.06)
Yep.

Nadine Mullings (37:43.877)
What is it you desire for me to do God? What is how do you desire for me to market? Write that down in the journal and leave space for the answer, right? What times we look for the answer immediately and sometimes the immediate answer does come immediately God may say I want you to call so-and-so I want you to do this and instructions just divinely drops in your spirit Sometimes it takes a day or two or a week and then BAM is in your spirit. It's like that's what I need to do, but you ask the question

Cecily Lachapelle (37:53.27)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (38:11.799)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (38:13.821)
first, right? So I think the biggest practical step of being spirit-led when it comes to marketing is asking God first, what do you want me to do? What do you desire? Who do you want me to connect with? What strategy do you And then waiting for the answer till you really have the answer before you move forward and don't get caught up in, so-and-so is doing this, so-and-so is doing that, let me do this. It's kind of like almost doing like an Abraham and Sarah and creating an Ishmael and not waiting for your Isaac, right? So we don't want

Cecily Lachapelle (38:28.803)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (38:42.435)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (38:43.781)
create ishmels because we feel we need to take control of the situation, we want to wait for our Isaac strategy because that is God's yes for us. That is what he intends for us. So I think that is my banner message. That's kind of something that's unique and different that you don't necessarily hear a lot of marketing people sharing or talking about. Most marketing experts aren't going to tell you, go inward. I can tell you a million and one strategies that could probably work.

Cecily Lachapelle (38:51.916)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (39:05.102)
Exactly.

Cecily Lachapelle (39:09.954)
Wait.

Nadine Mullings (39:13.621)
But I want you to have the divine strategy. I want you to have the ultimate strategy and that only comes from the inside not from the outside.

Cecily Lachapelle (39:17.166)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (39:23.256)
That is so powerful. And honestly, I heard you share that on another podcast, and that's when I thought I have to get her on my podcast. Because anybody who has that message of you need to hear from the Holy Spirit didn't just arrive there because their life was all rainbows and butterflies. We usually get there through a crucible season.

And the Lord uses that crucible season, uses that time when we cannot rely on our own strength in this situation. We are up against something that outside of God telling us what to do, we're toast. And he allows us to get there because he knows he's going to use that as the teaching moment. He's going to show up. He's going to speak to us. And from that moment on, we think, I am never going back.

I am never going back to the best of my ability. We obviously do it, but our intention from that point forward is I don't ever want to make a decision big or small without asking the Holy Spirit. What should I do this? Should I spend this money? Should I take this course? Should I buy this piece of equipment? Should I rent this office space? Should I hire this staff member?

Should I homeschool my kids? Should I, you know, whatever it is. All of the decisions we have, some of them are big. And so it kind of screams to us, ask God, because you don't know. The scary thing is for me, I can only speak for me, how many decisions I make a day that I think I got this. Don't worry, God, I'll check back in with you when I really need you, but.

Nadine Mullings (40:57.469)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (41:05.341)
Yep.

Nadine Mullings (41:18.728)
Yep.

Cecily Lachapelle (41:19.16)
For all these other decisions during the day, I got it. I will see you tomorrow morning. for the love of God, help me.

Nadine Mullings (41:24.978)
Yeah.

everything, everything. And I always look for the three C's, whatever the decision is, whether it's a small decision or a large decision.

Do I have clarity? Have I received clarity to move forward? Right? So that's the first C. Sometimes God will give you immediate clarity. Yes, this is the way to go. Step in it, right? Move forward. Then do I have conviction? Have I been convicted in my spirit? Like this is the way that I need to move forward. No. So what is that conviction that I've gotten? And then the third thing is confirmation. Sometimes it could be you receive something in threes.

Cecily Lachapelle (41:41.166)
you

Cecily Lachapelle (41:58.927)
Mmm.

Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (42:05.501)
to me a lot. I heard it from one person, then I open an email from a completely different person, then from a they're not connected in any way shape or form, but it's saying it's the same message. So then it's confirmation. So any decision making to know whether your spirit led again being practical for me, I lean on the three C's. Do I have clarity about this next step? Do I have conviction? Sometimes you can't explain it, but you're convicted is what you need to do. Right. Or do I have confirmation?

Cecily Lachapelle (42:10.999)
Yes.

Nadine Mullings (42:35.381)
I've gotten some type of confirmation. And those three C's, and it doesn't have to be all three C's. Sometimes it could be one that you get. Sometimes it could be two. Or it could be all three. So you don't have to necessarily look for all three. But really that clarity, that conviction, and that confirmation is helpful in decision making and being spirit led in your decision making.

Cecily Lachapelle (42:42.282)
Okay. Okay.

Cecily Lachapelle (42:53.218)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (42:59.534)
That's awesome. So what if somebody doesn't have clarity? What do you recommend for that if they feel like I'm supposed to do this, but how I get there, the steps are very unclear.

Nadine Mullings (43:17.671)
Yeah.

Well, do you have conviction? Then it moves on to the second. See, because remember I said you don't have to have all three, but you can have one of them. So if you don't have clarity, it doesn't mean, no, you're not supposed to move forward. There's lots of times we're not going to have clarity. In fact, a huge part of faith is not knowing the whole picture, right? So if you don't have clarity, then do you have conviction? Are you convicted in some way, shape, or form that this is the next step that you're supposed to do? So then if you don't have clarity, lean on conviction.

Cecily Lachapelle (43:22.958)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (43:34.414)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (43:38.668)
Mm.

Nadine Mullings (43:48.257)
Or do you have confirmation? Have you gotten three things or however God confirms with you? Do you have confirmation? So again, you don't have to have all three, but you should have at least one. At least one, yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (43:53.686)
Yeah. Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (44:01.256)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know for me when I stepped out of my corporate job, did, I definitely had the conviction. I had it because I'd known it in my heart pretty much my entire life as a Christian. And then I also had the confirmation. And in fact, the confirmation was getting so specific that

Nadine Mullings (44:25.533)
See?

Cecily Lachapelle (44:31.104)
It was almost like God was saying, in the last prophetic word that I received, God basically said, you know that this is what you're called to do, but you're too busy. How am I going to use you as long as your plate is already full of all these other things? So it was essentially the Lord saying, it's been time and I've waited and now it's all on you.

Nadine Mullings (44:50.49)
Exactly.

Nadine Mullings (44:56.166)
Yep.

Cecily Lachapelle (44:59.266)
The ball is in your court, Cecily. You have to decide. You have to take that step of faith. So I had the conviction, I had the confirmation. What I didn't have was clarity. And that was challenging, but it didn't stop me from making the decision. It just made it more challenging because my internal makeup is I don't want to take a step unless it's clearly defined.

Nadine Mullings (44:59.837)
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Nadine Mullings (45:10.461)
There you go.

Nadine Mullings (45:28.381)
Yeah, and it doesn't always work like that. In fact, a lot of times it doesn't work like that. So I love that you identified two of the three. And like I said, it could be one of the three. One of the three could be fine in moving forward too. But for me, I look at those three, clarity, conviction, and confirmation.

Cecily Lachapelle (45:31.154)
No.

Cecily Lachapelle (45:39.214)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (45:44.899)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (45:48.399)
That's awesome. That is so great. So final question. How has God used your personal strengths and your strengths in business helping other women rise and own their success, own their vision?

Nadine Mullings (46:05.202)
Yeah.

I think my strength is always leadership. For some reason, some shape or form, God always puts me in the form of leadership. I can think back to even high school, where I was nominated to be the president of an achievers club, McKnight Achievers. It was kind of just random, like out of nowhere, someone was like, you should be the president. I'm like, OK. In college, I was the president of the Honor Society. As I look at the breadcrumbs throughout my life, has always been, I've always been placed in leadership.

Cecily Lachapelle (46:08.418)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (46:35.899)
like leadership is a skill set that God put in my spirit to help me encourage, motivate, inspire people that God desires me to inspire, motivate, and encourage specifically women. So I'd say leadership is one of the key things and organization. I think that's another thing that I'm really good at and helps along with, you know, my clients for that planning piece, helping them to get organized and less overwhelmed. So that skill set has really helped in how I help my clients helping

Cecily Lachapelle (46:39.288)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (46:54.36)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (47:05.759)
them to get organized so they can feel less overwhelmed when it comes to their marketing. So I feel like leadership and organization has always been a bread crumb in my life and something that God uses for me to help other people.

Cecily Lachapelle (47:15.054)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (47:18.734)
That's awesome. So to the woman who is about to step out, she is about to birth that podcast, that book, that business, that new venture. What would you say to her right now as the very first thing she needs to know after it's birthed?

Nadine Mullings (47:32.125)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (47:41.117)
take that first step.

God always gives you a first step. Don't worry about the full picture. Don't worry about Z and getting to Z, but take that A, then take the B, then take the C. just be attuned, just be aware to what the right next step is, and don't focus on the final destination of where you need to be. So yeah, take the right next step, and you know, God orders our steps. The Bible says God orders our steps. So what is the right next

Cecily Lachapelle (47:47.786)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (48:02.51)
That's good.

Cecily Lachapelle (48:09.55)
Yeah.

Nadine Mullings (48:12.731)
step right now in this moment.

Cecily Lachapelle (48:14.894)
And if some of you out there who are listening think, well, I don't think I know what that right next step is, then perhaps you need to find a coach, whether it's a spiritual coach or a business coach or a relationship or a finance coach, whatever that area is where you know that you're about to step into something brand new, but you're not sure.

Nadine Mullings (48:42.547)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (48:44.968)
what that first step is, then finding somebody as a coach is always a great idea. Finding videos is a great idea. I know that has always been really helpful for me. But back to what Nadine was talking about originally, hearing the voice of the Holy Spirit, at least for the direction, because I can't tell you how much time I wasted on tutorials.

Nadine Mullings (48:47.592)
Right.

Nadine Mullings (48:51.751)
Yep.

Nadine Mullings (49:04.232)
Yep.

Cecily Lachapelle (49:14.23)
or how much money I wasted, buying access to platforms that I thought I needed, or someone told me I needed, and I ended up by not needing it. I wasted time, I wasted money, I wasted peaceful moments that I could have been moving myself forward in the right direction by not always going to the Lord and saying,

This is what I think is my next step. What do you think?

Nadine Mullings (49:48.221)
Yeah, absolutely. And I would reframe that waste conversation because as you were speaking, I felt like that wasn't the right wording. I feel like the scripture tells us that God

Cecily Lachapelle (49:52.867)
Come on.

Okay.

Nadine Mullings (50:00.761)
makes everything for our purpose. Of course, I'm messing up the wording, but like it's not wasted is basically what I'm saying. So maybe there's something that you learned in that process. Maybe there's a skillset that you acquired. Maybe there's a connection that you made in that group. Nothing is for nothing. heard someone say that before and it seems like a simple statement, but it's so powerful. But nothing is for nothing. Right. So it means that everything is used in some way.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:03.223)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:08.408)
That's good.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:16.632)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:24.12)
Yes.

That's good.

Nadine Mullings (50:30.685)
shape or form. We may think it's wasted, but it's not, right? It's not. And when you think about Joseph and everything that he went through, there were skill sets, there were things that he needed before he could be placed in the position that he was. So although his journey seemed like, he went through a lot, there were some things that his character was being built, his, you know, tenacity, his whatever that he would need in the position in which God was placing him in. So I would just reframe the

Cecily Lachapelle (50:33.678)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:45.09)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:51.681)
Hmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (50:55.694)
Mmm.

Nadine Mullings (51:00.565)
terminology or statement of wasted, just didn't feel right in my spirit and reframe it to nothing is for nothing. So even though it may feel like it was wasted, something about it was beneficial, something about it got purposed for where you are right now.

Cecily Lachapelle (51:02.958)
Mmm. Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (51:08.91)
Mmm.

Cecily Lachapelle (51:13.752)
Yes.

Cecily Lachapelle (51:17.346)
Very true, very true, I receive that. I will refrain that wording going forward. That's awesome. And this is why, we need coaches, right? This is why we need people in our lives that are on the outside listening going, hmm, that doesn't sit right with my heart. Let's think of a different way we're gonna say that and think about it, because we don't even realize so many times how we get.

Nadine Mullings (51:24.209)
Yeah, definitely.

Nadine Mullings (51:29.939)
Exactly.

Nadine Mullings (51:38.706)
Yeah.

Cecily Lachapelle (51:46.095)
caught up in a word or a phrase that's coming from a place in our heart that we haven't really repurposed that pain yet. So, So Nadine, how can listeners connect with you? How can they connect with women, faith, and business, plus business, and learn more about your coaching and your media work?

Nadine Mullings (51:54.161)
Yeah, exactly.

Nadine Mullings (52:03.773)
Yep.

Absolutely. So the first place they can connect with me is on my website nadinemullings.com. So you can learn all things Nadine Mullings and we are in the process of launching She Elevates. This is probably the first interview that I've actually talked about She Elevates Media. So you can go to SheElevatesMedia.com for our coming soon interest form and you complete that information out so we can put you on the list for when we fully launch and publicly launch this new brand, this new business. So you can start with

Cecily Lachapelle (52:21.294)
Woohoo!

Nadine Mullings (52:36.733)
my website nadinemullings.com and then if you're interested in She Elevates Media, sheelevatesmedia.com and then of course I'm on social so you can connect with me on Facebook, Instagram. My preferred platform is LinkedIn. I honestly make a lot of amazing connections on LinkedIn. I feel it's just a deeper level of networking business-wise so LinkedIn is my number one platform so definitely you can connect with me and all of those platforms would be my name Instagram, Facebook or LinkedIn Nadine Mullings.

Cecily Lachapelle (52:50.542)
Nice.

Cecily Lachapelle (53:07.084)
That's awesome. Well, before we wrap this up, would you please pray for the people in any way that you feel led?

Nadine Mullings (53:16.771)
Absolutely. Dear great and wonderful Heavenly Father, thank you for this opportunity to just share, to really have a conversation, not just between us, but for those listening and hearing. And we ask that it not just be information, because we know that there's tons of information available on the internet, but that it offered up some type of insight, some type of inspiration, some type of instruction for what the right next step needs to be for the person that's listening to this particular

podcast interview. We thank you that you're doing what you're doing in us and through us and through those who are listening for the messages that you've planted in each and every one of us for the books that are birthed and are being birthed and the messages that need to be placed out there for the podcasts that are being birthed or that have been birthed and the messages that are out there. We just thank you for the work that you're doing in the world and in the marketplace through us and allowing us to co-create and partner with you. So we thank you for your grace. We thank you for your

mercy. We thank you for your blessings that you offer us on a daily basis. In Jesus name we pray, amen.

Cecily Lachapelle (54:23.23)
Amen. Amen. And I just have a couple words for people that are listening. As Nadine was praying, the Holy Spirit brought back to my memory some of the examples that I just sort of randomly threw out there. And the Holy Spirit said a couple of those are actually very specific for some of the listeners. One of you, you are in a marriage where you and your husband are not communicating right now. It's gone beyond the silent treatment. It's gone into a

a deeper, more isolated place than you have experienced before. And the Lord wants you to know that that is a tactic of the enemy, that you need to see it as just that. Your husband is not your enemy. You are not his enemy. You don't have an enemy other than the satanic enemy that seeks to kill, steal, and destroy. And his goal is to bring division in your home. Why would he try to do this in this season?

The Lord wants you to know that you are about to experience and he has planned for you to walk through a door of new prosperity. And it's not just for you, but it is also to lay up an inheritance for your children, but also for you to take your giving for the kingdom to another level. You've proven yourself trustworthy in the financial area. You've proven that you're good stewards of the money, but the Lord wants you to know this in the same way that you diligently steward your checkbook.

and your credit cards and everything, your investments. He wants you to know the greatest investment is your family and your marriage. Steward that well and do not let the little foxes come in and steal and tear down this wall of isolation. Don't wait. The moment you hear this, pick up the phone, text your husband, say, let's make a meeting. We have to make a meeting and we have to talk this thing through.

So that's from the Lord and if he's given you that word and you know that, you know that the grace has also been poured out for you and your husband to have this conversation and the Lord's presence is gonna be there. Open it and close it with prayer and just know that the presence of the Holy Spirit is there as a healing balm. Don't be afraid of what the conversation is going to entail. Just know that as you invite the peace of the Holy Spirit into that place where you and your husband talk about this,

Cecily Lachapelle (56:46.25)
that this is going to be a turning point for your marriage, for your finances, and for the seeds that you sow and the impact you have in the kingdom of God. So I just decree and declare in the name of Jesus that God's presence covers you and that you and your husband are obedient in this and that you step into a deeper level of your kingdom impact in Jesus' Amen. Amen. Well.

Awesome guys, well Nadine, you are such a gift and I love how you have reminded us that if God calls us, he will equip us. And folks, if this episode spoke to you, then I encourage you to connect with Nadine on her podcast in She Elevates Media. And like I said, you're gonna find the links in the show notes. I also encourage you to follow her podcast and this podcast, to share this podcast and to leave a comment.

Nadine Mullings (57:22.736)
Absolutely.

Cecily Lachapelle (57:42.934)
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