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The Early Years Staff Meeting
Apologies, Home Visits and Staff Voice.
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Welcome to the Early Years Staff Meeting Podcast with Sarah, Kelly, and Steph! We're excited to be back after a little hiatus. In this episode, we're going to apologise for our absence and discuss our main agenda: home visits. Lately, we've been doing a lot of home visits, and we want to share our experiences with you.
Home visits are an invaluable way for us to connect with families and gain insights into the children's lives outside of school. It helps build trust and allows us to create a more personalised learning experience for each child. We discuss the logistics and challenges of organising home visits but agree that the benefits outweigh the difficulties.
We also share some humorous and heartwarming stories from our home visits. From mistaken identities, car park calamities to the chaotic encounters with pets, these anecdotes offer a glimpse into the ups and downs of visiting families' homes.
In our Zen mindful moment, we talk about the reality of feeling rage at times, especially during busy periods at school. We explore ways to release that energy in a safe and healthy manner, such as physical exercises and stress-relief techniques. Remember, it's okay to feel rage; it's how we handle it that matters.
Lastly, we share some exciting updates about our podcast. We've made changes to the format, adding more features to make it even more engaging for you. Plus, we're now on Instagram, where we'll be sharing helpful tips and insights regularly. Follow us there to stay connected.
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Hello and welcome to the Earlier Staff Meeting Podcast with Sarah, Kelly and Steph. The place where you can listen, learn and laugh with us about all things early years.
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Hello! Hi! We're back! Yay! We've been away for a little while but yeah we're back and today's podcast we are going to be
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talk giving our apologies and our main agenda is going to be about home visits as we've been doing a lot of those recently and then we're going to move on to staff voice we're going to talk about some of our experiences on home visits and then after that we're going to do a mindful moment and round off with any other business so that is today's podcast. So let's start off by
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giving our apologies. Hey ladies, it's been a while hasn't it? It's been a few months. Yeah we've been just, yeah a lot has happened since our last podcast. It's been at least two months hasn't it? It was Cory Bob's. Cory Bob's. And then we were all on a roll. We were on a high at Cory Bob's and then we went right downhill. Something happened. We had the call. We did have the call. We did.
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It all went well. It kind of came and went though didn't it? It was very... It was an intense 48 hours that kind of zapped every last bit of reserve. We stayed late didn't we? Yeah, yeah. Ridiculously late. Early years stayed the latest of course. Of course, yeah. I must say up the school didn't stay as late as you guys. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. And that's not because like we felt as though we didn't,
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but it's just there is so much to set up and to like to get in your head to get you know get clarity ready for the next day. I think what was difficult was that because when they do these deep dives you know you kind of have to you have to showcase that subject then within within early years whereas we're more a lot more organic than that and things just come up when they come up and things are taught.
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on the moment but yeah so we knew we were having a deep dive in RE so we had to, luckily, we had produced some high quality planning for the podcast. We actually used it. We looked at the Corry Bobs and traditional celebrations in England.
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Yeah, it's off-stead approved. So we are off-stead approved. Whilst I also went to a supermarket late at night and literally ransacked the seasonal section of all of their, with all of their King Charles. When I had coronation on it she bought it. I did. We had everything going on.
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We did. Even the carrier bags with the Union Jack on them. Yeah, I put all my resources in there, all my stuff, it was all themed.
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Which I bet you really actually hated just slightly inside, it was all themed. I did, I did and it's not really how we work in early years is theming stuff but it was Ofsted had asked to see it so you kind of just have to go oh okay great you just have to sort of play the game a little bit. But we got through it. But after that we were just zapped, we just had nothing left to give and we were just so busy.
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ISPs and EHCP meetings and subject leader stuff, reports, reports, reports, reports, and it just snowballed from there. Then trying to get everything sort of finished off, ready for the end of term. It was just, it was beyond stressful. And we'd also had a few technical problems hadn't we? Yeah we had a few. So we've improved our set up somewhat. We are now all recording together.
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We are. Which is lovely. In my little room. In the cupboard. In our recording studio. Which is the big art supply cupboard. With a slightly wobbly table. With three microphones. For varying in price from £20 to the stealth. Which Keely is using.
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£350 so thank you to the lovely family member that lent me the £350 microphone which I went to see a £20 one would be fine. You should give your brother a little shout out. I should, shouldn't I? Shout out to my brother. Thank you very much for lending of the crystal clear £350. If the key comes to you in like surround sound.
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you know this is why I have the cheapest one okay guys if I sound rough you know why it's not because it's 8 o'clock in the morning. It does look really funny though. It does, it's rather phallic. It really is. You did take a photo so perhaps we'll put it in the little set up on our Instagram. You've even got stealth written on the front of it, it
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So we just like to send our apologies that we haven't done a pod for a while, but hopefully we're back. Yes, we're back. Bigger than ever. Bigger than ever. We've got literally, yeah. We are going to change the format a little bit. So we are going to have more features to break it up to hopefully make it.
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easier for you to listen to and a bit more staff meeting like yeah because this is a staff meeting and it is actually physically a staff meeting now and staff and we're meeting now. The smallest staff meeting in the smallest place I've ever attended but yeah. Getting a Guinness world record for this lady. I know somebody online did that used to do their pod in their wardrobe with their clothes on their head and everything. That beats us. Because they used to get the best sound about it but anyway.
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That's techy talk. We won't go into that. Okay. So moving on to our first proper feature.
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Okay, our main agenda this week is home visits. Now, we have spent a lot of time doing home visits of late.
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Yep. You guys have, don't you? Yeah. But when you were in early years you used to spend many years driving around town, didn't you? Many a year. But they've all changed haven't they? There's so many different ways that we've done it over the years trying to find like the best way of doing the home visits. Do we go to them? Do we go to everybody? Because we have so many children from our nursery come in, which most schools do now, have a lot of people from nursery. Do you re-go and do home
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Do you have them here? Do you have them going to their house? It really just, we've done it so many different ways. We have, and it's what the core reason of having a home visit is getting that information about the family and about the children. It's about bond making isn't it? It's so valuable. I feel like when I've not done home visits, when I've worked in other year groups, it's harder to get those bonds with the families, like it takes longer to build up that.
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relationship and I just think there's something quite intimate isn't there about inviting you know a stranger into your home yeah and so it just helps to just put put the child at ease but also to put the parents and carers in it at ease as well I think. And I think when you when parents let you into their house you're signaling to the child that this person is trusted and it's okay they're okay because you wouldn't let somebody you didn't trust into your house would you?
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subconsciously that is what you're saying and that does help especially with the settling in process as well. So it is very valuable and it is also a safe place for families if they've got things that are sensitive that they want to talk to you about then that is their safe place and they can open up to you a lot more. And it just allows you to get a sense of what that child's home life is like as well so
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It just helps build that context of getting to know that child. You can sort of have a sneak peek into their world and what their interests are and what they're kind of getting from that home environment and what support, you know, they might need going forward as well. So, yeah. And so we have done it. So.
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The cons of home visits is purely like logistics. It's really difficult to get staff out, especially when you have staff shortages or you have a lot of sickness or just, you just don't have that much staff. And because of loan working, you can't go and you're only have to have two people to go. That does.
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like it is quite challenging. We have done it before and I know other schools have done it well they do it in September but it just depends if you've got a head teacher that would agree to that because not all do. No no. So the big news in the earlier staff meeting is that I'm actually moving year groups. I know. Which is a bit of a shocker so I'm actually moving to nursery which is
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good because it's going to give us some different points of view. I'm really looking forward to it once I've got over the initial surprise that I was moving to nursery. Have you ever worked in nursery before Steph? I have but it was a very different type of nursery so this was in an independent school in the nursery setting which was called the kindergarten so it wasn't like a nursery that we experience in you know certainly what we experience in our school it's very different it's quite formal.
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This was a long time ago because I'm very very old. That's where I started my career actually so maybe this will be where I end up. You're going to have to draw on that previous experience. I don't know if I'll be drawing on that previous experience to be honest. I'll probably just try to, yeah. Times have changed I think since then so yeah. But I'm obviously thrilled to just be staying in early years because we can get moved around as we are in a school. So yeah.
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but looking forward to kind of making the nursery and the reception work together a bit more and just building more of a team this year. So going back to the home visits, we are, the nursery children are actually doing their home visits in September. So we've had that advantage of I haven't had to come out of class and leave my class who are all sort of...
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you know, getting emotional this time of year, behaviours ramping up. Whereas unfortunately you have had to do that Sarah and it's been tough. It has been tough, my children have really found it difficult and actually I found it difficult because you do feel guilty as a teacher leaving your class, you know, that are struggling with your TAs and then you're going out with your new TA to visit these people but then
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you know how valuable all that information is so you feel very torn. You've got 60 children in your head at that point. That's it, it's like having two classes. 60 children in your head trying to work it all out. So another way of, you know.
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of helping to reduce the amount of stress for everybody, adults and children. We did come up with an idea of actually those parents who are coming up from our nursery into reception, they've already had their home visit.
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So we invited them into school to have an extra chat, just have a little catch up if there was anything that had happened within that year in nursery that they wanted us to know because things do change and things crop up for families in that year. So how did you find that then? I found that
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It was definitely different and I do feel as though that perhaps some families didn't open up as much because they were in a sterile environment for them. But it did help with the fact that staffing and it did help with my children because I wasn't that far away and staff could find me if I was needed. I could just pop in my head in after I'd done a visit.
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and check and just keep checking in with those children that were really struggling or had issues. So selfishly from my point of view it did help me but I don't know whether it helped the families as much. To get all the information that you... Yeah, because I feel as though some of the families didn't open up as much and even though we had their home visit forms from...
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data we collected from their home visits in nursery. It just didn't flow as well as it does when you go through the whole form. Yeah, because you go in and they go, do you want a cup of tea? Or how are you? And you go and sit down on their sofa, as you said, in their environment. And I think for the children as well, they've got their toys, this is their safe place.
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it's probably psychologically better for them. And they always want to show you their bedroom or their toys, don't they? Or their garden. And that is like a sense of pride for them. That was kind of lost. But yeah, it's pros and cons, isn't it? So when we do do home visits, we do have a questionnaire, don't we, with lots of questions that's asking the parents about their pregnancy, their birth, so it starts right from the very beginning. We ask if there's any erm, any
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changes that may have affected their family and that is trying to assess whether there's been like any loss or moving or trauma basically isn't it and actually sometimes that trauma does sort of creep into the children's school life doesn't it so that is a really important question but also things about their development and about the speech, the hearing, all that kind of thing.
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if they've got reoccurring illnesses, we ask about full ears, glurea, makes such a big difference at this age. And then we also ask about what the children's likes and interests are and if they've got any special friends so that we know if there's anybody coming, you know, into the setting, if they're new to the setting that they already play with and just having that insight into what they like to do or sort of inform our our provision ideally, wouldn't it? So if you know you've got a lot of children.
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that like one particular thing, you could have that out as a...
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you know to entice them. The question that we added over the years was the one about dyslexia, I'm going to add that in because that's my thing at the minute. So yeah asking about dyslexia because it is hereditary and that does make a difference. We have had quite a few children like oh okay they've got that in their family we'll keep an eye on we'll make sure that they're okay and that means that we've been able to then pass that on to the next year one and year two. Interestingly I did flip back through some of mine because
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get reading. I did look back and a couple of those they did have like mums and dads who had dyslexia and I thought I wonder if there is a real correlation. I'd be interested to see later on down the line. I have seen because some of the children that I've obviously taught in the past. That's what you do now isn't it? Yeah and now I've gone up and seen a lot of those children that I'm working with now and actually I thought oh wait a minute I'm sure we had that on the home visit that there was someone in the family and it does it's just like oh okay.
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It has meant that those children are getting support when they need it. Yeah. And...
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they don't, they've just been left. Yeah and that's the thing they don't and they can't get tested can they? No they can't. And that's the thing or they're being told to go elsewhere and be tested privately which is getting on for £300 if not more. So they are, home visits are incredibly valuable and also if parents decline a home visit you that does kind of make you think oh there are reasons why
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decline a home visit or decline to come in, I've done a lot of telephone calls and that might just be they've declined because of pure work commitments and we get that, we have a lot of work in parents. Or also sometimes I think parents can be anxious of school, parents and carers, so it's that if they've had a bad experience maybe at school, they look at teachers as an authority figure or something, so it just might be that they are not comfortable.
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with that and you've kind of got to find another way to build that trust. And that might just be like inviting them in. I know when I joined this school, it was during COVID and we had to do our home visits outside, that was another way of doing it, it was a garden visit. Oh yes, yes we did. Yeah. So that was, that was, luckily we had nice weather the week that we...
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That was still really beneficial though. You got everything you kind of needed from that. Sitting in the garden, there was still really, like she said, the children would go out in the garden maybe anyway to show you stuff. And they'd just go and get their stuff and bring it outside. That was still really beneficial. And actually, then the last year was that really hot week wasn't it? Do you remember? Yeah, I do, yeah. And we had to go out and do it in the blazing sun so we ended up in the garden quite a lot of the time anyway.
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and I ended up on a few doorsteps where parents had forgotten their home visits and they were reluctant to let me in because I think they were worried about their houses. So in that absolute blazing heat I was getting my questionnaire out sweating. And that's just how much we value home visits. We're by hook or by crook. The information is so important. It is, it's so valuable.
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Okay, right then. Should we move on to our next feature ladies? Let's go.
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Okay, so this is Star Voice. This is an opportunity for us to voice our experiences and anecdotes about, and this week because we're doing home visits.
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We have accrued a lot of home visits. Yeah, well, 10 or 12. I think the news was. Well, funnily enough, I think both of you have done home visits for me, for my children. Yes. I think you both have. Yeah, we have. Yes, we have. So I have a little confession because when Sarah taught my eldest child, and that was before I worked at this school and, of course, being a teacher.
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I obviously have my best behaviour so I think I'd like to set up this role play in the living room. Like polish, clean the house from top to bottom, go out this role play, you know, and just, this is, you know, turn YouTube off for once. We'll see BBs probably in those days. And yeah, just get out, get out the nice wholesome equipment and then probably be like with child 2 Keely, she was probably just...
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No, it's just like, oh yeah, come in. I'm like, OK. Come in. She's watching TV. Yeah, no, she wasn't. Attend it all. But your set up wasn't quite there. Yeah. I remember, Steph, you sitting on the floor. And when I came in, you were like, oh, hello. Oh. Ha ha ha. And your eldest was on the floor with you. And it was like this lovely little tweed set up on the floor. And I do remember saying.
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my TA at the time oh you can tell she's a teacher fake it till you make it this one's gonna be fine okay so my my little anecdote actually happened this this set of home visits
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I know. So this is a very recent one and I did get approval from my TA to tell this story but yeah we... I've got a new car which I'm very proud of. It's a brand new car and I've never had a brand new car before but anyway that's by the by. I said to my TA, oh...
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Come with me come you've not sat in my new car yet. She goes. Oh, no I'm really looking forward to it so off we off we popped out of the the car park and we were trundling through and I Got into my car into my passenger seat and I sat and I rearranged my bag so that my TA could sit next to me And then she didn't appear and I thought oh my goodness. Where is she? I just um
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She waited for me to back out, can she not get in? And I had a little lean over, couldn't see, but there was a, like, she wasn't, couldn't get in. And then I looked.
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360 round my car and I couldn't actually see her. I thought where is she? And then I thought, suddenly thought, oh my gosh has she fallen over? Oh my god, I just felt this panic. So I opened my car door a little bit and got out half and I looked around I still couldn't see her and I thought oh what earth has happened to her? I sat back in my car and got my phone out to call her and as I glanced in my window I could see her sitting in somewhere.
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else's car! We mocked eyes at each other and she just we literally both pointed at each other and went what are you doing get in the car and I went no this is my car get in my car and she looked around and suddenly you could just see the panic that she had gotten in someone else's car.
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she literally shut the door, she came running around and got into my car and she was like oh my gosh my gosh they're gonna think that I was trying to steal the car and I was like how did you get in the car like surely the car would have been locked I said did you did it open and she was like no I just I pulled the car door and it opened and then as we both looked up the camera
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burst out laughing and when we got back to school and we told we came clean and we told the office staff
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they looked up the number plate and guess whose car it was? It was Keely's car! She went I'm so sorry I got in your car and went it's really not an issue don't worry. She went why was it open? I went it's me you know I could get stuff including locking my car and then she went didn't you notice your stuff was moved? I went no it's so messy in there. How would I even know that it moved?
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I did tell her she needs to cut back on the CSI. It was so funny. She was like devastated, blessed, I was like please don't worry. She was like luck your car next time. I will, I promise.
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Go on then Keely, it's your confessional. Go on then. Well, the one that I could remember wasn't actually happened to me because we kind of have, I know this sounds a bit mean, but we kind of have a competition to see who has the best one, like what's happened. The best anecdote. Yeah, we have a home visit off. It could be really nice, it can be crazy, just a bit. But one that I can remember, good old ****. Give her a tap.
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A friend of ours. A couple of years ago, quite a few years ago, she went into a house and she came back and she went, oh that's it, she said I'm done, I can't do anymore. We went, why? She said, you know I love dogs, I really do. She went in and this dog was really, the lovely people said, are you okay with dogs? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with dogs. She had a little Jack Russell dog, didn't she? Yeah, yeah, loved it. I remember, it
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didn't realize this dog was as big as her. It was an Irish wolfhound wasn't it? Yeah, on either side of her shoulder and it almost tipped her over. She tried to keep her balance because she thought what if I fell over with this dog on top of me in front of these two people and this dog was just standing there like hugging her as she came in and that was
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So the mum was so worried about this dog she was like, oh is it okay if it stays? And so I think she was reluctant, she said yes and then as the home visit went on the children were getting more noisier and noisier and the dog was getting even more excitable and it was supposed to be poorly but the mum shut the children out in the garden and left the dog in instead of the opposite way around.
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because the dog is clearly more important to us than the children. It was a red flag. Oh, bless her. But just the way she came back, she was slightly traumatised. Oh bless. At the same time, she was, we just couldn't stop laughing. We do encounter a lot of dogs. We do. Dogs, cats, rabbits. I mean, we do love an animal. I had a dog push my DA through the sofa. Oh!
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The dog had chewed a hole in the sofa, the mum had put a cover over it to hide it. She stood up, the dog leapt at her and pushed her through the sofa and I had to help her out. I was so proud with her legs kicking. Dogs bring a whole new level to the... I'm okay with dogs but I'm not a dog person, I'm more of a cat person but you do encounter a lot of dogs.
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sniffing you, licking your toes, and of course you're on your best behaviours here, you're very patient. My funny story isn't mine, it belongs to my sister. She went on a home visit and she turned up at the persons, I think they lived in a flat, and English was not their first language, so there was a little bit of a language barrier.
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So she said, hello, I'm so and so from the school and showed her like badge and everything. And they said, come on in. And she was going through, oh, she said, where's the name of the child? And they said, oh, they're at school. So she was thinking, oh, that's really annoying. They've sent them into nursery when they're supposed to be here for the home visit.
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never mind she's going for her questions and then it turns out that the people that were she was meant to be interviewing had recently moved out and it was a new family and the child they were talking about was an 11 year old boy that was in high school they just got the communication error so she'd done a high vision
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You know, all those developmental milestones for speech and language at the moment, you know. And then we hardly speak at the moment. It's just grunts. Oh, that's a concern. So yeah, that's her little funny story. Okay, well that's our staff voice over for this week and there'll be more staff voices coming up in future episodes. So yeah, okay, moving on.
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Welcome to our Zen mindful moment. Um, and this week I'd like to talk about rage. Feel the rage, rage against the machine. Because, um, yes, it's, it's perfectly normal to feel rage. And I've been listening to a few podcasts about maternal rage and motherhood rage. And it just sort of resonates with me that sometimes, you know, not, not at school, because I think you hold it in at school, don't you? But.
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You mask. You mask. You do. You mask it all day and then you get home and the smallest little thing will tip you over the edge like the washing up still.
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the side when your partner works from home or... The shoes are out on the floor when you've bought a really expensive shoe thing for them to put their shoes into and they're still on the floor. This is not the children, this is the husband. Oh well, my husband, I've put hooks up on the walls so he can hang his trousers that he might wear the next day. Oh no, he just still leaves them on the floor. The hook is right above. So the rage is real.
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The rage is real and I feel like at this time of year when things are very, you know, tense and fraught at work because we're just trying to frantically tidy up all those loose ends, you know, it becomes overwhelming. So on a podcast I listened to, they said a few tips of how to get rid of your rage. So when you are feeling rage, it's like fight or flight, your body goes into fight or flight and it's the fight, isn't it? The rage is the...
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is the phi. So what your body is telling you to do is your body is preparing itself to do something physical. So if you do something physical that can help to like get rid of the rage. So the suggestion was like just run on the spot for 10 seconds or just go and do some star jumps or if you can't physically move you can just shake your hands like ahhh and then it just gives your body something physical to do then it can then your body can like use up all the adrenaline and all the other hormones.
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to help you calm down.
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But you've heard of something new haven't you Carolee? I have, I think like virgin experiences are like getting onto this bandwagon that there's rage amongst us all and there's now like you've got the escape rooms, there's now a rage room where literally there is like old TVs and old stuff just around and they give you a sledgehammer or a yeah it was a sledgehammer and you can just go round, you have safety stuff on by the way it's all safe and everything.
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and all of that and face masks and stuff and you go in and you just go and bash all this thing and let your rage out. I mean almost bought it from my mum for her 60th birthday thinking wow she'd love that. It reminds me of that film Hostel.
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Which is a really... have you seen it? I've only seen part of it, I couldn't watch it. So the premise of it is... No, I don't mind. It's basically a bit like a rage room, but with a person in there. Oh no! Yeah, it's not a very nice film. I know, virgin experiences aren't going that far. It's just old TV you let your rage out on. Yeah, it just reminds me a little bit of that. I don't know how comfortable I feel about that.
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I mean, I think some of our children when they feel rage and that's why they behave they do in classrooms and we see this, you know, people are calling it a pandemic of rage in children. So that clearly is an outlet. Yeah, but we could try that with the children as well. I tried it with my daughter the other day, just showed her.
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just do this and then it makes you laugh as well because you're being really silly and then that can diffuse it.
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Get rid of your rage in a safe way. Also, exercise is another way, isn't it? A lot of people go to the gym and they run. A lot of people get addicted to running. Which I can't imagine me doing. Me neither. I really need to get back into running, but I've been saying that for about five years now. But maybe this summer, girls, maybe this will be the one. All right. OK. Into our onion. And.
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Any other business? Okay. Our only other business for this week is just our call to arms really is to check out our Instagram page at the moment. We've posted some tips on...
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you know, how to stay sane last week, about how to stay calm, get the children to stay calm, and about your provision. Yeah, so check out our Instagram. We're now on threads, ladies. Wow, I mean, that's just blown, I mean, that's one step too far for me. Keely, I can imagine it's too much of a noob for you. Yeah, yeah, I'm real noob, but I mean, knowing how long it took me for the Instagram. She likes pigeon posts. She likes good old fashioned pen and pencil. Yeah, I'm now up,
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Now the Instagram pops up at me and I'm a bit like, what is that? And I go onto it and I'm like, oh, OK. But I'm still just only, I haven't gone very far. I really do need to do a bit more. We've only just started on threads. I think there's this feeling that people don't really understand what it is. It's a bit like Twitter. I think it's a bit like Twitter, but without all the trolls and the hate.
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Well, see how long that lasts. Yeah, we're on threads, so check us out, the earliest staff meeting. And yet we've got a Facebook page. I think for this episode, because we're trying out a new form, when we post it to all of the podcast outlets, I'm going to add there's like a...
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questionnaire that you can add and we can get people to sign up and see how they think our new format's gone. We'd love your constructive feedback. Please be kind though. What worked well and even better ifs for these. And if my microphone's almost really really good. If you can tell who had the £25 microphone and who had the £350 one.
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That's us done for today. We're actually, we've got to go from one staff meeting to another now. Yeah we have, yeah we have. Oh yeah. Oh I'm not. You're alright. Right, okay, well we'll see you all next time. Thank you very much. Have a wonderful summer. Yeah and you. Bye.
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Bye!