La Chismosa Del Valle
La Chismosa Del Valle
Finding Home: Real Estate, Identity, and Small-Town Roots with Casa Casttaneda
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Welcome back to La Chismosa del Valle! Host America Castillo kicks off a brand-new second season with a deeply personal catch-up before diving into an insightful interview with real estate duo and brothers, Alex and Humberto Castaneda.
From navigating career shifts and mental health struggles to moving past the "fame game" of activism, America sets the stage for a conversation about what it truly means to search for "home." Then, she sits down with the brothers behind the Casa Casttaneda brand. Alex (a high school friend of America's) and Humberto share how they transitioned into real estate, the work ethic they inherited from their trailblazing contractor father, and the psychological impact of navigating identity and Latino culture while growing up in the suburbs of Simi Valley.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- America’s Season 2 Update: Returning to work, navigating life with bipolar disorder, stepping away from corporate code-switching, and finding peace in fresh starts.
- The Roots of Casa Casttaneda: How Alex and Humberto combined their love for real estate, an eye for design, and business savvy to form their own brand.
- A Father’s Legacy: Lessons learned from their father, a landscape contractor who designed high-profile Hollywood homes (including a famous feature on MTV's The Hills).
- The Suburb Identity Crisis: A candid look at growing up in Simi Valley, moving past the embarrassment of cultural names, and learning to reclaim and take pride in Latino roots.
- Entertainment Meets Real Estate: How the brothers use their entertainment backgrounds and lessons from film festivals like LALIFF to build an authentic social media presence.
- Community Over Competition: Breaking down the gatekeeping and criticism that can happen within the community, and why there is more than enough room for everyone to succeed.
Episode Timeline / Chapters
- 00:02 – Welcome back to Season 2! America’s life updates, mental health journey, and leaving corporate culture behind.
- 11:15 – Reminiscing about LALIFF (Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival) and a funny celebrity editor mix-up.
- 13:10 – An open letter and heartfelt apology to Simi Valley.
- 17:46 – Interview starts: Introducing Alex & Humberto Castaneda.
- 21:00 – Inheriting a strong work ethic from their entrepreneur father and his Hollywood design legacy.
- 26:15 – Moving from Inglewood to Simi Valley: Navigating the suburbs and reclaiming cultural identity.
- 40:27 – Alex’s journey through art school and entering entertainment management.
- 45:30 – Merging the entertainment industry with modern real estate branding.
- 51:15 – The reality of networking: Finding your true people and avoiding the gatekeepers.
- 56:10 – Real talk on language barriers, holding each other accountable, and supporting the Latino community.
- 01:01:40 – What’s next for Casa Castaneda? Future social events and professional networks.
Quotes from the Episode
"When you're an immigrant... you have an identity crisis. A lot of it was just learning how to accept myself while also balancing my community." — America
Castillo
"Every day is an audition. People forget that being a realtor is really, really hard... what people are seeing is us being graceful with ourselves."
— Humberto Castaneda
"The Latino community is big and we can all really support each other if we just see each other for who we are and don't criticize." — Alex Castaneda
Connect with the Guests:
- Casa Castaneda: @casacasttaneda
- Alex Castaneda: @alexcasttaneda
- Humberto Castaneda: @humberttocasttaneda
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Hello, hello. Bienvenidos, welcome back to La Chismosa del Valle. Bienvenidos para atrás a La Chismosa del Valle. This is my second season, you guys. I know my first season took me a while to complete, and I'm really hoping that the second season I don't do the same thing, although I already kind of failed because I did an interview about a month ago, almost a month and a half a week ago. But thankfully, I have been super busy with work, and this means a lot because if you have been in touch with me on social media, then you know that I have actually been unemployed for almost about a year, but just recently I started picking up some temporary janitorial shifts, and now I'm back in the janitor game. And honestly, you guys, I'm okay with it. I know a lot of people are probably like, America, you have a college degree. Why are you cleaning toilets again? And I think that when you're an artist, it's hard already, like as it is. Like if you're really good at, you know, if you're an artist, you're also a business person. I've always struggled with the business side of things and have also struggled with just even focusing on my art myself. And so I think I took this time to really try to focus on that, whether it was learning how to edit more videos, learning more about reels, and a little bit about streaming, which I still don't fully understand, but I I try. Um, and honestly, just getting back into drawing is what I've been doing this past year. And it also hasn't been easy. I have dealt with a lot of depression and a lot of just like trying to figure out like what the hell is happening and what happens next. Like I'm about to turn 31 this month, and it really hit me that like I just I'm not in my 20s anymore, and my health and my body, it it can feel it. And so you know, when they start saying like your back hurts and your body hurts and everything, like my body hurts so bad. And a lot of it I don't know if it's because I'm on a ton of medication. Again, if you're new here, I struggle with bipolar disorder and I am very open about that because well I just I can really empathize with people with mental health problems because of my own mental health problems. Um, obviously that doesn't excuse a lot of my behavior, but once I got diagnosed, it was much easier for me to be like, oh, well, this actually makes a lot of sense of why we hate a certain way, which kind of brings me to my next point. If you know me here in Seattle, I don't know what you might have heard of me or what you know of me, or if you even like me, and that's okay, I don't mind. But would it be a surprise if I told you that I also left LA and maybe not the best terms? Um, I'm sure some of you guys wouldn't be surprised. You're like, America, you have a very condescending voice and you don't say anything positive, so of course you're gonna have no community. But I think I think really what I have been searching my whole life is home. And I think that's why I wanted to bring up Alex and Huberto Castaneda for my first episode because they're real estate agents, and in this year, I have really been uh trying to find my home, which is whether it's whether it's going back to the valley like in Los Angeles or just staying here, or maybe even like honestly, just going back to Mexico, which I've never been, and I'm a little scared, but it feels like it's time for me to leave and explore something new. And I'm kind of tired of feeling trapped in the United States, if I'm being honest with you. I don't know. I don't know. I also could like die immediately. And I don't mean die and like something bad is gonna happen, like, or that like you know, everything other than America is bad, because you could die in America too. I mean like for example, I'll look at my cat sometimes, like, you know, and I'm like, girl, you would not make it out in the wild because you're so domesticated, and I feel that way sometimes that I don't know if I'll make it outside of the US because all I really I'm so spoiled here. Everything I really know is here, and I'm still learning how to travel within the United States. I can only imagine myself learning how to travel outside the United States, right? But I don't know. We'll we'll see. Um I'm really looking forward to just this new like era of my life of just really focusing on content creation and my projects and art and also like really enjoying being a janitor because at the time I was not enjoying it. I really wanted to get out of it, and now I'm like, hey, I just want to make some money so I can do art on the side, and I still don't regret going to college because I did learn so much about a lot of things that I feel like I can take into my life anywhere, and like honestly, I can use those skills in my janitorial job too. Like, who says I can't, you know, like there's office jobs and janitorial jobs too. So I don't know. Um we'll see. I did um let's see, give you guys a lot of background on last season. I mean, I interviewed, you know, uh my friend who also lost her job around the same time I did, and then she actually found a job and then I ended up having to lose it again because of a lot of people from Dhaka are not uh getting their DACA renewed right right away. And so a lot of people have actually lost their DACA status and are now having to learn how to work as like without papers. And for a lot of us, we were spoiled. A lot of us didn't have to do that, and so this is like a new thing, you know. I also um it's also been a year since my friend's mom got deported. Um, I'm hoping that I can do a reach out and see like where they're at, how they're doing, but I'm really happy to see that she got herself really into activism and closer to the community, and she's found a lot of support. And I hate that it has to take something so tragic to happen for the community to come together, but it's been a year, and you know, we're still kicking butt, you know, we're still making it know that we're here, and that's amazing. Um I don't know, lately during Lent it felt a little weird because the Lord is hard that came out and she started speaking out about you know having two kids with Caesar Chavez, and a lot of influencers also jumped on the conversation and were talking about how we don't need any more, you know, activism, uh influencers, fame, whatever to kind of keep us going. You know, we we just need real action at this point. And I had one side of the internet, you know, talking about the Lola Suerta, I had the other side of the internet, and it was mainly in the Seattle area where influencers were just kind of playing celebrities and like really push, like they didn't even bring up once anything that was happening with the Lora Suerta. And again, that may also made me realize, like, oh yeah, Cesar Chavez is mainly talked about in California. I don't know if it's like as talked about here, but I know that like everywhere you go in California, you just see Caesar Chavez, right? And so I really had to um I really had to take a step back and think about my own activism and fame and what I it is I really want and how I can help my community without you know it just turning into this fame game or this competition because everything ends up turning into a competition when it comes to our people, like who's the most Mexican and who's the most this and who's the most that. And it's just I I don't like it personally. Um a couple of other things that updates with me is I feel like right now I I am starting completely fresh because I did quit like two things that I was really excited to be working on. But as I was kind of working, I was also realizing like I'm not ready to get back to work yet. And and it's not because I'm being lazy or anything, it's because again, I have bipolar disorder, but I never actually got the chance to sit down and work on my manic episodes after being hospitalized. I always jump back to work. And this time it really hit me. I was just getting back to work and I almost snapped at everybody around me, and I was like, this is not healthy. I cannot walk around yelling at people and um not even completing a task. Like I really have to just somebody last year was like, Oh, America just doesn't want to work. And honestly, I don't want to work for anybody right now. That's that's just the truth, unless it's being a janitor right now, because that's like I've done that my whole life. And when I feel like I can't control anything, at least cleaning is the only thing I feel like I can control. It keeps my body moving too. But other than that, like I don't know, I stepped down from a position that I really thought I wanted and that I thought maybe not only wanted because I wanted to figure out ways to help my community, but also the experience. Um I wanted that experience as well on my resume. And as I was in there, I just realized like again, I'm I'm back to just feeling like I have no power, no say in anything, and really what am I doing? And I'm not going to bash like the companies or anything because at the end of the day, like this is all on me. But and I am very grateful for the opportunities I have gotten, but it also just made me think like I can't code switch anymore. I I'm not in the position to be co-switching between you know white corporate culture and like my Latino folks, and like trying to like you know balance everything. I'm just gonna talk the way I talk. And if you don't like it, you don't like it, I'm not for you. And if you like it, you like it, and that's great. I'm for you, and that's amazing. But I'm just so tired. I'm so tired of having to be this like picture perfect girl all the time when I I'm not, and I know you're not either. So why are we pretending? And when it came to corporate culture, I was just like, you know what? I left corporate for a fucking reason. I left corporate for a fucking reason. And this uh this whole code switching was one of them. I don't want to code switch anymore, I just don't. Can I do it? Yes, lately I've been lacking, but I don't want to do it anymore. And that's just me. Also, I think that if you work in corporate, you should watch Nathan for you, and obviously you have to watch The Office, but you just have to watch Nathan for You because I feel like it's just it's just part of life now. Like you you have to watch, you have to understand why, like I don't know how to explain it. You just have to watch it, but anyways, um I'm really excited for my next couple of guests, my next guests, uh Alex and his brother Humberto. They're amazing. I had so much fun. We reunited last year at Lalif. Lalif is the Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival, and they actually just had their 25th anniversary uh over Memorial Weekend. I did not get to go because I had a lot of like things to do and I could not afford to go back out to California right now. But um, it was nice to, you know, kind of go through my photos from last year and go through my memory and just see like all of the just reminisce on all of the crazy dumb things I said. Like, for example, oh my goodness, guys, kids, if you're listening, please don't listen. But if you're listening, um, yeah, always make sure you Google who you are talking to because I remember I was talking to somebody and I was like, oh my god, I'm a big fan. I know you, I know you from me too, and all these things. Uh, wrong person. And this was the editor of Hentify, one of the editors of Hentified, too. And um, I was hella embarrassed. I'm I'm not gonna say names. There's there's I I I I Googled for sure, and I I saw there was multiple editors, but I was like, yeah, that's embarrassing because he was complimenting me. And I think that that um the that made made my head a little high. And I definitely took it too far. I definitely did not, it did not have to. I definitely came back like I'm a star, but no, I I'm not a star. Far, I'm far from a star. I need a lot of work to do. I have a lot of work to do. So hopefully next year I can go and yeah, we can have fun. So I'm not going to I wanted to do a whole long speech about everything that's going on in my life, but honestly, you guys, I'm taking way too long for that, and uh, you don't even want to hear it, and I don't want to take away from the story. So let's just go back in time and listen to my interview with Humberto and Alex Casadita. But really quick before I start, I do want to say a huge thank you and also apologize to my hometown in Simi Valley because when I left, I definitely was calling you guys all whitewashed and going off on about who knows what and who knows who, right? Um but after living away for now two years, I can definitely appreciate home a little more if it's even my home, if I can even call it my home, if I'm even welcomed back to the Valley or Simi Valley. Um I think, and I mentioned this a little bit in the podcast, so I won't go into it, but you know, when you're an immigrant and you don't really uh you know, you you don't belong near the Zeki ni da yeah, yeah. I don't want to sound super cliche, you know. But I really did have an identity crisis, I think. And I think that is kind of what's like pushed me away from not just my work, but from a lot of people. And a lot of it was just learning how to accept myself while also balancing my community. And a lot of it, I shouldn't even have taken it on on you guys. Um, you guys are very wonderful, you guys come from wonderful backgrounds, all of you like uh it it is now I can look back and be like, wow, Sasimi Valley is actually very diverse. Um and we're hella amazing artists with hella amazing schools and hella amazing uh kids that just grow up and just want to do the best. I do want to because I know you for I just finished and everything, acknowledge that you know that town definitely did struggle with some stuff, you know, some substance abuse. But I'm happy to see some of my friends come out of that and just do much better. But I'm also happy to see the town as a whole uh acknowledge that and actively work on it because you know it it does make a difference. It makes a difference for us now that we're adults and we're all having our own kids and you just want the best for them. Gosh, guys, I don't know. I can go on for for long. Maybe I will do a separate episode on just uh uh doing a little apology for you guys because I I messed up. I messed up and I miss you guys a lot. I know it's weird to say you're like, oh no, America, you finally got out of Simi Valley. You're you're supposed to not want the be back. It's it's it's it hits different when again you're searching for home, you know? So okay, enough of my sappiness. I won't get into it, I won't get into it. Let's just let's just dial back. Let's just dial back, okay.
SPEAKER_02Can you hear me?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, 1000%. Yeah, I can hear you louder.
SPEAKER_05Perfect. She's a little nervous to pretend back.
SPEAKER_01Oh, no, it's okay. Don't be nervous. This is gonna be great. No, honestly, working, this is a cool thing about I feel like I I definitely pride myself on having a reputation, uh work collaborating and working with me is definitely uh it's a great thing. It's it's fun because uh yeah, like I said, a lot of people go in into like in like big industries and like they go into like all these like corporate America jobs thinking they need to be like a certain way or be like no, but it's like no, like you're you you do you did the hard work, now it's time to show up authentically, you know.
SPEAKER_05So yeah, no, it's true. And corporate's changing. I you're so right, corporate's changing too.
SPEAKER_01It's I wonder uh Alex is downstairs. He uh because yeah, he went downstairs so we get like a different view, and then also so we don't like over talk over over each other. Oh yeah, logging in very soon. Yeah, he's lobby somewhere.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god, but how you been though?
SPEAKER_01Honestly, not bad. I'm just trying to keep up. I feel like just trying to keep up. Obviously, I need to. I'm doing good. It's things are well. I feel like I'm constantly like working on something, I guess. But yeah, things are good. Yeah, I mean, I guess can you hear me?
SPEAKER_00Is everybody can you hear my voice? Yes, everything okay, perfect. I have to control my audience.
SPEAKER_06I like the background.
SPEAKER_00Let me just let me just um blur it.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay. I miss the palm trees.
SPEAKER_01I know, right?
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_01Alex, that's a good view. Oh my god, I should have I should have thought about something else like perfect.
SPEAKER_05Yay, you guys, thank you guys so much. And up here I have two of well, actually one. I met one of them in high school, and then this is his brother who I met finally met last last year at Lalif. Um, the guys that you just so much that I have here, Alex Cassanina and Juliet Casanina. And I get I'm getting kind of nervous and excited because I just feel like I haven't talked to them in a while. And this is the last year when I saw that Alex's name was coming up. I was like, wait, is this the same Alex from high school? So I forgot who reached out to who, but I was very excited. And um, I always see them posting together, so it's really nice to finally like meet Humanto and get like the you know, the see the person, the full experience, yes, and I love it and I loved it. I got the full experience and I loved it. Um, but you guys are my uh first guest on my second season, so thank you. I appreciate that. But yeah, okay, guys. Tell me a little bit about yourselves, real quick.
SPEAKER_00Introduce yourselves.
SPEAKER_01Alex, you go first.
SPEAKER_00Hi, everyone. My name is Alex Castaneda. I'm a real estate agent by trade, but I also wear other hats. I am also a festival director and a part of the community in Simi Valley, California.
SPEAKER_04Hometown Umberto.
SPEAKER_01Hi everyone, as you know, I am Alex's brother. I go by Humberto Castaneda. Uh I started a real estate company late 2024 with my younger brother Alex, and we saw real estate by day, and yeah, we created Casa Castaneda. So we are realtors by day, but as my brother mentioned, we wear many hats. And I'm not gonna hear, I'm not gonna bore you with all the hats that I wear, but if you know me, um you you're a little familiar with what I do.
SPEAKER_05Well, that usually happens in entertainment, right? We wear many hats. We don't are just not in one field, we're in many fields, and I feel like that kind of helps us. What is okay, what has been some of your experience? Kind of okay, hold on, because we met this is long. This is long. So we've met in an art school, me and Alex. So, Alex, I guess we could start with what's kind of sparked your interest in entertainment, because that is kind of the field we're in right now. And I do want to eventually talk about how all of these many hacks help help you in your business, and then what made you guys want to start a real estate business?
SPEAKER_00I think honestly, working together as brothers was one. Second, our love for real estate and honestly our eye for design was I think one of the three reasons that just made us want to work together and get into real estate as a whole.
SPEAKER_01And then Umberto Well, to be honest, yes. Uh my brother uh basically said it all. But I mean it's a little bit more passionate, I feel like when it comes to me. I'm such a visualist, I'm such a creator, and yeah, everything Alex said is right on the dot. But uh yeah, I I I grew up watching you know the Devil Wars prod, uh, and so that very stuck with that stuck with me. And also our father. Our our father was you know an entrepreneur, a businessman, and we're yeah here we are still trying to fill it, fill in big shoes. But yeah, uh it always stems from my father. It's uh like for example, like you know, we're going to you know meetings or social events out in Santa Monica, Brentwood, and at every every corner that I turn, I'm just like reminds me of my father. Uh so yeah, uh, you know, there was days where he would you know take take us to work, you know, as a Latino. I know you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I know. I went to work I went to work with my mom. But if you know what I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about. So that right there that stays with me, and yeah, I guess it has a lot to do with uh our father, and I guess we just inherited that from you know our mom and dad, too, just being such det detailed oriented people. But yeah, yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_05Your dad did, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Of course. So he was a contractor for The Rich and Famous. Some of his work actually was on uh Laguna. Was it Laguna Beach? Well, with like Lauren Conrad. Conrad, yes. You remember that episode in uh it was that episode when they were in Hollywood. Hollywood home where Lauren was finding out where uh Adrena was living in the backhouse. Adrena, Adrena was living in the backhouse. Yeah, so our dad literally like designed the whole landscape.
SPEAKER_06Ooh, the whole okay. Look at that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so some of his work, yeah. And uh I don't want to name drop because that's not cute, but yeah, the list goes on, it goes so deep. So again, uh everything that we do, I feel like is just embedded in how we were raised. You know, we were, you know, our dad was just involved with in all that, and yeah, that's kind of very natural.
SPEAKER_05Uh huh. Yeah. And what kind of work ethic do you feel like he installed in you guys?
SPEAKER_01Well, I unfortunately I feel well, me personally, I don't want to speak for my brother. I feel like I am constantly having to tell myself to enjoy enjoy my enjoy the enjoy the ride and slow down, like you know, because like it's like finishing task after task after task after task, and yeah, I guess of a a very strong work ethic to the point where I feel like I am not doing enough. But I turn around and like, wait, you're doing a lot. Yeah, but yeah, no, I obviously think a very strong work ethic, and you know this as you know, be being having you know parents that were not born in America in pace, so it's just natural in us to want to succeed, right?
SPEAKER_05Right, no, that makes sense. You guys might hear a dog, a doggy hear, it's a pug, it's it's super cute. So I'm dog sitting, but she she gets to say.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, Alex, how do you feel? Right?
SPEAKER_00Honestly, I know he did some good work ethic, but also to like, you know, also enjoy life because he did retire quite early at 45, and just also, you know, yes, do work, but enjoy life because time flies, you know, enjoy the moments, enjoy the little things. Because yeah, I work is a really big thing out here in the US. It's a very culture thing, a hustle and bustle type of field.
SPEAKER_05So uh so last year you were actually mentioning a little bit about um your your dad, and uh, I think you did mention that he was a contractor, but I think you mentioned that now he's back in back in Mexico, right? Was that something that he always wanted to do? Uh, like so he like he got to go back back there, yeah. And how do you guys feel about that? You guys get to visit him or he gets to visit? I don't know, I don't want to get too much into if like talk about something you guys don't want to talk about, but uh, I know everybody here, I know Latinos are big on like the American dream and working it hustling just to go back. So that's the good experience, usually.
SPEAKER_01You know what? I'm gonna take a step back because I feel like I usually take the lead. This is such a I don't talk to be honest, I I don't talk much about the subject, but I I I Alex, I would love to hear my brother's input. Like I don't want to overspeak, so yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay, no, and if we don't want to, I can no, no, this is great.
SPEAKER_01I think no, yeah. Don't cut any, don't cut any of this out. Okay, okay, okay. You go first. I would love to hear this.
SPEAKER_00And no, like this is no, it's great, honestly. Like living the it's great to see him finally living his dream. He always did mention it that he wanted to go back and go back, and you know, he did it. He built his homes. He also has other properties out there in the city and things that he rents out, like commercial space and things like that. And I'm just happy that he's able to live a really happy life, calm, and really just enjoy being back in his roots, you know, and just being able to really be with his parents and his people, and you know, back home. Because of course, you know, US is home, of course, for everyone, 50-50. But going back to Mexico where he was born obviously just feels a lot more different to him. You know, there's a special place in his heart.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, no, that that makes sense. And I guess this kind of is going back to we're going starting off now with your childhood and stuff. How did that how okay? I guess we'll start with uh uh Humberto, because you're you're the oldest. You you grew up in Ing Inglewood, right? I think I read you grew up in England.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes. So uh parent, yes. So I do have memories of uh being out in Englewood, definitely.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and when did you guys move to CME?
SPEAKER_01So we moved to CME Valley from Englewood, California when I was in the I would say the beginning of seventh grade. Alex was uh in uh elementary school, yeah. So uh I just remember like going some like hopping on the freeway and just like going a little further out and the little hill. Yeah, and just like touring homes, and then you know, I I was still not like aware. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying. Like I wasn't like I wasn't like I wasn't like as an adult, I was I was still like a child, you know what I mean? Yeah, still young, and so like yeah, middle of like early, early, middle seventh grade, it was quite interesting.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, what was that experience like? Because Lingwood and Simi Valley are very different, yes.
SPEAKER_01So uh I don't want to talk too much about like yeah, don't if you're not gonna be able to do that. But like, yeah, I mean I definitely I definitely saw things growing up, you know. Like, you know, it was it's obviously very different, that different demographic. I uh I also don't want to dismiss anyone that you know that currently resides in you know where I grew up. But yeah, my experience was uh interesting. Yeah, it was it was you know it was interesting. I saw certain things, uh, but yeah, I'm very fortunate that we made the move because uh I definitely consider myself a product of Sydney Valley, California. But uh yeah, at the beginning it was quite challenging. You know, my name is Umberto Castaneva. I was very embarrassed of my name when I moved. I would go by Junior because my art father said Umberto.
SPEAKER_06That's right, I did remember you as a junior. Okay, okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_01You know, in my knee, like I'm like, I like it was Umberto was just like a big no. Yeah, like now it's like the most beautiful name to me.
SPEAKER_05And what kind of change? What was the moment that changed that you were like, I am so proud of my name, and you have to say it like that? You have to say, like, I guess, yeah, I don't even usually when I try to introduce myself on the podcast, I try to say America Castillo, because that that's I realized it's really important. But what I want what moment for you was did you realize like I have to change that?
SPEAKER_01Okay, don't laugh at me, guys. But it was no, I won't. I'm kind of late. Uh once again, it's just circling back to our parents going back to their roots and visiting them and just really seeing what Mexico is like the power, the culture, the respect people have for each other. It's like you do wrong, you're gonna get treated like you're doing wrong, right? It's like it's uh there's a lot of like it's great. There's social justice in a way that they're that you know I feel that lacks in the society here. Yeah, everyone is just you know a lot more together, I feel like. And yeah, I guess it's when my parents took off when they left to Mexico. I started being exposed to you know the culture out there, and you know, in my head, I always thought Mexico was a certain way, yeah. Because that's how TV excuse me, it very much is, and like I don't know if this is where like my privilege comes in, and excuse me, and I know that sounds ugly, but I just want to point out everyone has different you know outcomes in life, and you know, I I I did experience you know the the highs and the lows, and so I know I just want to I know oh yeah, no, for sure, but you know, no, no, once again, I this might be the privilege showing, but yeah, Mexico is very much thriving, it is alive, and it's like I the what I was exposed to by my parents, I'm like, oh wow, like this is this is everything, and and then just wait, I went to Mexico City, and I'm like, wait, so it's like wait, like there's nothing to be embarrassed about, like literally the poder that we have, and like Mexico is a wow wow.
SPEAKER_06No, it's what I can say, I want to see, I can't wait.
SPEAKER_01It's almost bonito when you pens that you know the culture and Xbox. What was all of that embittered self-doubt for? So, like I guess the point is it's like, yeah, I I always do recommend going back to your roots and you know, asking your parents to, you know, where are we from?
SPEAKER_05What like what what is it like, you know, but yeah, I was far back when I when they went back to their their roots, you know, I was like, Well, that's unfortunately a common theme uh for a lot of Latinos, a lot of people a lot of parents choose to have to change their name to a more American name just so they don't, you know, grow up with that kind of you know embarrassment or something. Um, and usually those kids end up being like the most like I want to be like so rooted in my culture as well, too, because yeah. So it is a very common, a common story, you know. Um thank you for sharing for sharing that. Um do you feel like growing up in the suburbs kind of attribute to that embarrassment?
SPEAKER_00Or embarrassment could tribute to what?
SPEAKER_05To kind of like the name, like the name, because even though like I I do consider I also consider myself a um a product of Simi Valley, but uh when we were growing up, Simi Valley was very different. And I'm very glad that now, like for example, seeing you guys do so much for the community now. Um I mean, I honestly when I was growing up was not so much aware of what's was actually happening on like my community like level level, just kind of like what my surroundings uh were and personal life, right? Um but I also feel like we do have to uh we do eventually have to talk about like how a lot of people do don't do a lot of people do move to Sydney Valley because it's a safe space. Oh not a safe space, it's a safe area, you know. Um like that's one of the reasons that I've moved to Sydney Valley was because my parents were like, oh, too many things are happening here. We have to move to much safer area. So we moved to Sydney Valley, we stayed there for for years. And growing up, I hated it. I hated it so much. But now that I like have moved out, I'm in Washington, I miss it. I miss the suburbs, I miss that hill, I miss um the people, I miss it so much. And I realized like, oh, I I don't even know if if it was if something made me like, I don't know. I feel like everybody's experience of Salatino in the suburbs is very different growing up. And for me, it's not that I was, I I don't know if it was and I'm also the oldest, and I feel like the oldest always have like a very much different experience than the youngest. Um, because my sister was very, she would always be like, oh, like I'm way more Mexican than American, you know. Um, and I and then she would be like, in America, you're more American than Mexican. But then I would be like, but wait, I'm Mexican. I was literally born in Mexico. So like, why are we having this like identity, this like, you know, this, and I would have this like kind of go back and forth between like what? Like, like now I'm like second guessing myself because everybody here is telling me, like, oh, you're a little too whitewashed, you're a little too this. But I've always felt very Mexican. Like, I'm like, you can't, you I've never, you know, I've never said like, oh, I'm Mexican-American because I'm not, because I'm technically not, right? But my sister, she's just now coming, coming into terms of like, oh, you know what? I'm learning about Chicano studies right now. Like, I think I'm considered a Chicana. And so it there's a lot of things that like maybe Calley was missing or lacking at the time, but then that I'm seeing now that they are actually actively working. And I'm seeing that a lot of people like us who grew up in that area are finding ways to give back to the community or who just do that. You guys are an example of that. Um, and even I think when when was the last time? The last time I was at a protest in Simi Valley, I think it was like 2020. And I just remember seeing like I think it was a group of high schoolers who were also part of the protest or leaders of the protest. Um, or I oh, I think it was the high schoolers that put on June, June teeth, it was like the first June teeth in Simi Valley. And I thought that was so cool. I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. Like, look at the community growing just because we have we have acknowledged that Simi Valley has had like a history, right? And like, but now how do like now it's moving past that? Like, I now that I'm here, I'm seeing so much. I called up my friend the other day back in C Valley, and I was like, Ashley, there's so much, you guys have grown so much, so much, there's so much, so much culture there that it's like, my god, and I was like, Yes, and uh, but you know, but I'm like, but I love I love that because I feel like when I left CM Valley, I was kind of in a bubble too. I was like, I was like, oh we we do things a little differently here. Yeah, but I but I I I I still miss it though, you know. So I guess um I forgot what I I sidetracked it a little bit. But do you feel oh yeah, no, do you feel like um you know the suburbs change like the those two experiences like had any part it part in that or or you just it was just Alex?
SPEAKER_01Do you want to go first?
SPEAKER_00I feel like I really didn't have a super crazy experience as my first name is Alex, you know, last name Castaneda, but growing up in the suburbs, I really didn't have such a crazy, I guess, childhood or crazy experiences that much, you know, as other that I hear other people that go through. I know there's experiences that you know that have happened, I hear stories, but me per se I haven't had anything crazy or super wild that's a you know been racism or I mean I've had obviously I was uh I was very social I mean even more than I am now.
SPEAKER_01Uh but I did see certain things I don't want obviously I don't I don't feel comfortable discussing the topic but the effect of your surroundings and not seeing like your people like your culture it can definitely have a psychological effect. That being said, yeah, and that's why I pride myself in what I'm doing now, the work. It's like I I don't want to you know use my friends as examples, but I I've seen it. I've seen like not wanting to accept like who you are, right? Like I even like circling back, I did it, I did it, like I wasn't denying my name, my my my birth name, trying to, you know, fit into what I thought was right in there, you know, it just doesn't make it like yeah, that's why circling back to what you said, you not seeing certain you know groups being like highlighted, X and X, you know it wasn't it was a time that is much different than it is now, and also like we also do have more of like I would say le I would say less backlash of kind of like supporting these groups because like I said, uh you know the younger generation is is a lot different than their parents. Like I these kids are very, very aware and like they some of them are actually like holding their parents accountable. I see it. Um yeah, like I said, CME is raising some like some really smart kids.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh they're they have empathy. I they're definitely a lot nicer than I was at their age. Like I said, like they know who they they they seem to know from what I see, they are they already know who they are. Yeah, like circling back to what I said, I was like, I didn't even know who what my name was, you know, and like Yeah, no, because it's funny.
SPEAKER_05We're talking about names and and you're you're like, well, my name was Alex, but I was like, oh yeah, well, my name was America, and that I feel like kind of helped me through CV, because then people were like, hold on, America, that's really cool. You know, like and I'm like, oh, I I'm not named after the country though. And then they'd be like, wait, what? And I was like, so it would be like a conversation starter, and I feel like that really did end up helping me, but also I was like, oh, that's it's the name that's helping. But I do understand, I do hear a lot of stories of like, oh, I had to change my name or I didn't like my name or or I had to do that. And I don't think I think that you're I think it's wonderful that you're you're sharing about talking about this and sharing about this, and um and then even the fact that it it does bring up a psychological effect. Because yeah, I think those are stories that are very important and we need to talk about. Um Alex, uh, why did you uh why did you decide we went at we we went at art school, correct? I didn't we're not gonna win this. I didn't think I even went to middle school with you. CB Valley is small, so we will do good go to school together for forever. But I don't think we meant middle school, right? Please correct me.
SPEAKER_00No, I went in Valley.
SPEAKER_05Okay, okay, we're gonna. Okay. Um so what was gonna what was I gonna say? Um, why why did you choose to go to um an art school? Because at the time we were known for being a little fucking weird, and I didn't give a fuck because I was like, I wanna do that, I wanna make art. Um but why why did you choose to do that?
SPEAKER_00I remember it clearly. So it was all in the they had an assembly at Valley View where Santa Sue comes and performs. They do like there you go, and I saw them dancing, singing, and I don't know. I was just I got so happy, I got excited, I was just so interested. I know it was different because like you know, you usually go to your sports school, either you go to see me hire Royal, you know, and Santa Sue was known as a freak school or the art school.
SPEAKER_04So freak school, I know. And we are, you know what, that's fine. I love it though. I love it.
SPEAKER_00That's what really drew me to that school, and like I had a I always wanted to do cheer. Something was, I don't know, I wanted to do cheer and dance was offered, and so that was the closest thing to cheer, you know. So I do dance classes, I started doing tap, ballet, hip-hop. I even got into competitive dancing. I wanted dance creations, it was it was the whole thing.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, I always wanted to try hip hop, but I was like, you guys were too good, and I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't keep up. I just knew I wasn't gonna be keep gonna keep up. But then I tried doing I tried doing hip-hop here in in in Washington. I was like, yeah, I can't keep up. But you know, it was fun, it was really fun. I do miss, I do miss that. And what sparked your interest in entertainment? Like what at one moment were you like, I want to be in this field, I want to work in this field.
SPEAKER_00Honestly, I think since going to an art school, it kind of teaches you how to create, uh, it teaches you how to get criticism. It helps you kind of how to like run your kind of like your own business in a way, because you have to do everything yourself. You're the one doing your performances, you're the one doing the rehearsals, you're getting the group together, you're working with a team, you're trying to be a leader, you know, you're trying to work with everyone. Also, you know, you're working with colleagues as well, like you know, teachers and things like that as well. But as a student, you have to learn to, you know, work with adults. That's another key thing to do as well.
SPEAKER_02That's so true.
SPEAKER_00And I think entertainment's always caught my eye, I think, coming from an art school, having film, having dance, having theater, choir, all these different things really just kind of helped me tap in even more into the whole entertainment field, which got me to my degree at Cecome, which is entertainment media management. And I think that just always sparked an interest in me, honestly. Entertainment's always been something I did a couple skits for Disney XD when I was younger. Um, scary.
SPEAKER_01I was just holy fucking crap, excuse my language. That was so scary, but go on.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, like interest in it, but yeah, there's always been an interest in like entertainment.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's so cool. I didn't know that about the uh about the XD.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, wait, um Bert as well. Yeah, we bought it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know. I mean, uh tell us about the experience. So I how many I don't know how many skits Alex did, but I did a total of three skits. None of mine aired, but oh my god, like I mean we got paid, so whatever. But it was scary, like you literally like having all these cameras in front of you, and it's like, and like you're supposed to just act like you're like you like it's like it's really scary. That's that's why a lot of people don't realize. Like being an actor, I think people think yeah, actually, excuse me, people think that being in the industry is like really easy, but you truly have to be comfortable with yourself, like yeah, like you are not comfortable with that. That's why a lot of people that are in the
SPEAKER_05industry and that are in the arts and stuff like they they they accept themselves right yeah they do they they act rather than think then act right yeah like and most people are like they'll you know that's why I love the industry as well um I love being around people that are that show up genuinely and yeah that's also why I'm very much of a fan of the industry and I have and I continue to have really healthy relationships with people on camera and off the camera because it's once again it's that personality trait that just yeah a kind of person that just goes go you know and that right there is everything to me and is that the moment you knew you kind of wanted to work in entertainment or what sparked your interest uh well I mean once again circling back to what I said you know our father you know exposed us to you know a certain you know you know life life you know that that and just kind of I was just grew up hearing his stories and like about his clients and he would be like I'm probably oversharing but like you know he would he would have clients that were in the many industries and he would come home like with like you know like yeah sometimes like adult industry toys you know I know that's like I it might be oversharing but you know no but that is such very healthy and happy household like you know our our parents are very open way too open sometimes like with you know like yeah like he would come home with like you know and he would talk about like all these eccentric clients that he had and it just yeah and I'm just like oh my god dude that's amazing yeah no I I I love that it's such a fun it's it's a fun area you hear fun stories but it is not it's also it's just it's dirty work at the same time and not only by literally but at the same time it it is it's just like uh like uh you know it and uh but it's just you know yeah you know but uh what was I gonna say how did how did working in entertainment how is that kind of helping you in in real estate because there is a big market in celebrity real estate and everything which is something that I know you guys um do you are trying to do tell us more a little bit about your your your your business how you're incorporating entertainment in real estate so uh you know we did uh we went to school for we do have some uh some knowledge in you know the film industry uh that obviously helps I've always been much interested in you know like the PR side and just you know build like building just building and creating but uh I guess it's going I mean I'm not a guest I know I know it's going well uh for example I just want to because we're fairly new to the industry like uh we're two years in two two years and a couple months in we've done about nine deals you know some people say that's a lot I feel like it's not enough um but for example I want to use someone that's been in the industry for a while Ryan Sirhant I don't know if you're familiar with him he's been on the show Bravo uh million dollar it's like New York he sells real estate in New York and uh seeing his brokerage just really like double down on presence online and using social media to your advantage just really shows that you know the industry and real estate is they're very much very much similar.
SPEAKER_01You know you're every day is an audition. Every day is an audition every day people forget that like you like people I know realtors may have a bad stigma and think we just show up and like you know like you know pay me you know but it's such a lot of work it's a lot of work what people are seeing is us being graceful with ourselves you know like you know we have to you know it's I like that it is it's we have to give ourselves grace.
SPEAKER_05So yeah of course like you know you know it's like you know it's we're every day is an audition and people forget it's being a realtor is really really hard and so is being in the industry and and yeah I guess like being around once again circling back to what we've been saying just do you guys mind sharing a little bit about your experience kind of getting into the industry for maybe those who are interested in getting into the industry and maybe also real estate okay Alex you go first with this one I kind of I feel like I owe a lot to my brother Alex uh he's actually the one that opened up the door to Lalif to me.
SPEAKER_01He went first year and he showed me everything that was going on and I wasn't at I wasn't mentally capable of doing all of that at the time but um yeah Alex Go. He I owe everything to my brother he opened up that door and I just double down doubled doubled down on it.
SPEAKER_00I love that yeah so it all started honestly just volunteering at Lali you know I got an email from the school I graduated asking they're looking for volunteers I was trying to be more involved in the Latino community so they would send out emails and I got that email and the first year I went I made a lot of great connections uh with talent people and things like that and I was telling Umberto how it's just a great experience I had how wonderful it is Lali in general the whole experience as a whole is a wonderful thing especially as a volunteer too you really do learn a lot in and out of a festival and the second year Umberto came along and from there we've just been taking off going up and up and learning and growing and you know really just adapting to the entertainment industry especially out in LA yeah no and you and you build great bonds too uh great memories uh are you guys helping on again this year yes so uh so it's uh we are of course yeah we've we've been going back every year 1000% we've made some amazing friendships uh yeah and it's it's great volunteering but yeah we're gonna we're we're going back yeah it's uh yeah no that's great uh I wish I could go back but I it's I can't right now and you know what I I feel very guilty because I know but we were we got to experience Lalif together last year and see it's very unfortunate because like I I feel like we I we've we're in a different headspace we could have danced more I was once again like I I oh no I was in a different headspace too I was I was good I was I was like I need to be with people I'm actually so glad you guys went because I'm like I need to be with people I know because I my anxiety was so high it's nervous wracking going to industry events sometimes but it was fun it was really fun everybody was so fun everybody was so cool and I don't know at the end of the weekend I was like why was I so nervous because I think like you're right like we're all in this together and we all have the same mission and we all like are working so hard and so why was I nervous but you know it's just it's always a little nerf wracking to go into a little a little networking event sometimes.
SPEAKER_01No it is and it's hard and like I said like not everyone that is there is also there for the right reasons. Like for example like I've had I've tried making friends with you know the wrong you know making friends with people and sometimes you you slowly find out you know those people are not your people because yeah rather than building they're dissecting you yeah I don't know I don't know there's like there's you like even you have to be careful it is an issue style because yeah like it it it is true like some people just care more about one side the of it and they forget I'm like what are you what's the why are you doing this?
SPEAKER_05Like what's you know like and it's so funny you say that because like circling back to you know Lalif opened up you know like my mind to like you know what needs to be done and thinking about you know the future and just really showing up authentically for the community and the world not just for our community but like you know the world you know if we're around a star a strong community you know it it makes a stronger a stronger healthier world that being said um yeah lalif is everything Lalif I always say lalif but it's Lalif it's Lalif yeah I say my Simi Valley showing no I said it happens to be it happens to be cute it's not lalif it's lalif that's funny okay so yeah share share a little bit more about you oh okay I want to know real quick your guys' thoughts on like creators like creator content like creator content houses or like just your thoughts on like creators being used to like sell housing and stuff I don't know really random but I figured since we guys are in the industry entertainment and all kind of collaps like col coexistence if you guys know a little bit about that or want to speak a little bit about that your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER_01Alex what do you think?
SPEAKER_00Well content houses is like for real estate you don't really see a lot of content houses things like that but you are seeing more now real estate agents working with brands you know when it comes to like clothing or skincare things like that. You are seeing that more and more you know because it's becoming now a whole lifestyle. So I've been noticing that but I've not been seeing a lot of content houses.
SPEAKER_05Okay okay because that was that just a a a bigger thing back in like like 10 years ago when that content like TikTok was first starting off during COVID yeah because everyone had okay that's still true yeah it's still much a very it's still I mean it's still very much a thing I think it's just worded differently as it's it's always a col collaboration.
SPEAKER_01It's okay collaboration. But um yeah I don't see much I mean obviously there's content powerhouses like I mean I see streamers like like Wendy Ortiz with like you know like I love keeping up with them yeah like I don't want like I know there's numerous and I think what's like La Comadre I know Alex is oh yeah so that's uh that's Alex's uh acquaintances with and uh it's it's it's it's great seeing that so obviously yeah there's still like powerhouses but um as for real estate no I haven't seen that uh I do know more agents are you know taking on the role as influencers like for example you know we see everybody and so we've had so many opportunities that has nothing to do with real estate but it's just like what they what people see on camera like we haven't like yeah I don't want to like obviously like you know name drop and you know yeah no close my meetings out and like air my dirty laundry like that you know obviously when you do business with me like you know conf comp like you know conf what is it oh my god confade oh my god confidential it's yeah well conf conf we're gonna actually skip all of this out okay how do you say let me see confidential confidentiality confidentiality confidentiality alley uh I think this is funny discussion is big with us because you can see like we couldn't cut that up I don't know how we're gonna fix that yeah so I'm Latina clearly because I can't even speak English confiach to their first language yeah no it happens to me all the time let's be real let's be real it happens yeah you know you're getting a real you're getting real and uh no I can't even say a confiatrial it's like our like okay like so one time like our because we meet Latinos in the industry like we were being trained by this like this guy and like you can tell like he experienced a lot of hits like being Latino because like the way he would talk to us was like you have to make sure you read those emails and you make sure you do this and you do that because you know what you don't want people thinking you're a stupid fucking Mexican I'm like oh yeah that was wild I remember that I'm like yeah yes sir the camera panning is perfect too like I can't I'm like you don't want to be known as the the dumb Mexican I'm like oh you are so right but a little too late a little too no no no it's so funny because like I I may be accomplishing all of these things but I will I don't know what I will always dumb myself down I just always I just see myself like so I I don't take myself too seriously but but yeah like yeah I'm not egotistical but yeah I don't even know yes no I love that no that's good see I I would feel comfortable I would feel comfortable buying a house from you I'm just saying no yeah no I mean 1000 like we we definitely pride ourselves in like you know showing up authentically and you know like always just showing up authentically because uh yeah no I feel you okay is there is there anything else that uh you guys want to talk about any anything that maybe we interesting facts anything more about your your business that you guys want us to know um anything else about you guys I want I really really sorry sorry to cut you off I really want to highlight this and I really hope this is like one of like the clips on like what the promo but yeah uh as as as a as as a human being like I and as a as people in the industry like we I feel like we need to hold hold ourselves more accountable and um be more aware of of each other be more aware of each other and uh want to help each other.
SPEAKER_05I I see that in my industry you know you know the people are not always as welcoming they love to gatekeep and that's fine but you know there's I just want everyone to know that there's enough room for everyone there's enough room for everyone there truly is and I know there's conflict con conflict of interest but but be vocal right I guess yeah be vocal with your people yeah no that's so true because it it is a tough industry you gotta have thick skin and if you're not okay with yourself it's very easy to just fall into and people would people will notice like I'm telling you like people like when you like especially in the industry like you're gonna come across people that truly know who they are because like I said and you know this this industry is not easy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah if you really don't know who you are you're still trying to figure it out like you're gonna have a really hard time and I've come I've come across that and like uh I guess just stay away from those people love them before because they will they will they will they'll they'll they'll drag you down.
SPEAKER_05Yeah ooh that's so true no drag words matter words word words matter yes Alex what about you any anything that you want anything you want to talk about or any uh any last minute thoughts or closing closing thoughts closing arguments I think that's the last thing I'd probably want to close off with is just letting everyone know that the Latino community is big and we can all really support each other.
SPEAKER_00We can all really help each other if we all just really see each other for who we are and don't criticize each other.
SPEAKER_01Yeah no it's true because we're all different we're not all of us are this not all of us are the same and that's good and that's amazing we don't all want to be the same so I agree I I I I was made fun of a lot and it's like I I I don't understand why but like I said I you know you you you're born with what you what you're born with right yeah it's just it's a shame that you know in the Latino community like you'll discriminate that person for having less and then you'll discriminate that person for having more than you exactly I guess that's also one thing that I kind of dislike about our community it's uh there's a lot of there's there's still a lot of yeah and I know and I know some people don't like talking about this because it's very weird but it's uh it very much is a thing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah no I agree I agree with you guys oh my god thank you guys so much for coming in hopefully we can have another chat another update um and just you how you guys are doing it's I I would buy a home from Lenin for sure I think they're fun they make me feel comfortable I cannot see you guys again this year but hopefully next year we're back and I can go back and help um and yeah my goal is to my goal is to go back to LA but you know at the same time they teach us we have to leave for a little bit and then make our way back and I'm learning a lot from both the LA culture in C in Seattle but I'm glad you guys came on talked a little bit about yourselves. Yeah any any last minute things no I mean hey like I said yeah I mean uh I know we talked about a lot of uh topics but yeah I mean uh America I mean it was a pleasure getting to know you more and thank you so much for having me on I know I'm Alex's brother and uh yeah thank you no you're Humberto Kistineda too Humberto yes yeah like I said uh I yeah I look forward to if we sell enough houses maybe we can go to Portland yes there you go hey oh well did you guys talk want to talk about real quick about your how you wanted to do like events and like host events big events and stuff or um no okay so yeah so Alex do you want to go first because I feel like I've been talking so much about what you take over like just you you guys want to start hosting events in the future like big like big events for like because Seattle's big on like hosting and like hosting events and stuff so this is now the time to to market to the Seattle people who want to get get to LA.
SPEAKER_00Yes Alex oh no yes we are as we try to know we try to go to like different events like as you know we're part of like the business alliance in CMI Valley and then we also are getting tapping into young professional networks also outside of interactive and going into LA County as well. So we've been we've been dabbling in we've been dabbling in that so we're we're slowly going into it you'll see more of that in the future of us but more more of that you'll see more of us out LA.
SPEAKER_01Okay and then your company you guys don't want to host events right at the moment so so as of now uh we we don't have anything planned we are we we don't have any events uh coming up but um if anything does uh if anything does come up we yeah follow our socials but yeah I mean for oh yeah give us a show your social yeah no 1000% actually I I can't we we can't say too much we have a meeting on the fifth with you know uh the the the CEO of uh the association of uh of uh where we belong basically okay so the association is where like we hang like they take care of everything it's uh but yeah like I said I love that I can't say okay okay but yeah there's a lot of cool things coming right because I guess okay I hear that pulling back there's been a lot of social events and it's uh finally finally it's like work it's like work work work work yes right it's now aligning it's now aligning I love that it's finally like a work opportunity rather than like a social opportunity well that's good to hear okay guys well I'll leave you guys be and have fun um and yeah we'll stay in touch I'll let you guys know when uh this comes out okay thank you guys how do I close this