مين هو الإنسان الحكيم؟ | حسام حشمت ووسيم صبري

"مين هو الإنسان الحكيم... اللي عرف يعيش الحياة التي تستحق أن تُعاش؟"

في هذه الحلقة من بودكاست Ergo، نحاول أن نفهم معنى الحكمة، وعلاقتها بـ الحياة التي تستحق أن تُعاش.

هل الحكمة مجرد معرفة؟ أم أنها طريقة للحياة؟
وهل النجاح، الراحة، والثروة هي ما يجعل الحياة ذات معنى؟ أم أن هناك قراءة أعمق للواقع وللإنسان؟

خلال الحلقة نناقش أفكارًا من سقراط وأرسطو، ونتحدث عن الفلسفة، والفضيلة، وقراءة الواقع، والفرق بين السعادة والمعنى، وكيف تؤثر هذه الرؤية على علاقاتنا، وتربيتنا لأولادنا، وطريقة عيشنا للحياة.

في الحلقة:
ما هي الحكمة؟ وهل يمكن أن نتعلمها؟
هل الفلسفة هي حب الحكمة فعلًا؟
ما الفرق بين السعادة والحياة ذات المعنى؟
كيف تشكل الإعلانات ووسائل التواصل مفهومنا عن "الحياة الناجحة"؟
لماذا الحكمة فضيلة وليست مجرد ذكاء؟
ما علاقة الحكمة بالعلاقات، والأبوة، وتربية الأبناء؟
كيف نقرأ الواقع بطريقة تقود إلى حياة تستحق أن تُعاش؟


🎧 الحلقة متاحة على جميع منصات البودكاست.
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2140749/episodes/


حسام حشمت | ماجستير اللاهوت - كلية اللاهوت ببرنستون
وسيم صبري | ماجستير فلسفة - الجامعة الأمريكية بالقاهرة


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بودكاست Ergo من إنتاج المركز الثقافي اﻹنجيلي العربي.
 This podcast is a production of the Arab Evangelical Cultural Centre.
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00:00 - مقدمة | ما هي الحياة التي تستحق أن تُعاش؟
12:08 - ما هي الحكمة؟ ولماذا نحتاج إليها؟
27:41 - الحقيقة، الفضيلة، وتكوين الإنسان
47:36 - المال، النجاح، ومعنى الحياة الجيدة
01:09:52 - كيف نحيا الحياة التي تستحق أن تُعاش؟

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Minhuel in Sen Al Hakim Il Ish lai.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Alembium for podcast Ergo, Narda Mahayah Wasim, Alambika Wasim, Alambi Hasem. Al Hikmah, Walla al Hayel leti testahka and twaish. Fayani a hibichalik na kedifil awil. E' l'alakabin al hekteen dwulashen nantalakba kedab finakash hawalein al-hikma Yani and Hasid alokabin hakteen duel kuzumin hael halaya.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Yani kenya uulin Binzbali Badan Mufakirin, uhala kin ul Binisbans and had the sukrot uhism tibans and haki. Whaya di octahagan tamfruta saliha, octahagan mufrud uh mahag and akintatos ali el hekma. Whaash hayatu kulaha, bi yasal hekmoeni, heyola thori um Guziman mushkelit el falsafa uhil felro ilayem anhayani and no nesrayanul falsafa heya no aminata ruti emal ebor todliflamadiola kita falsif. Uh if a kilmit falsafa kilmit safsato, sait uh muk and um nafalhaga no ma hakin muqtelfinambadi uhatil osli kilmitil falsafa, kilmet filo sofia, uhilo yanil hop, u Sofia yanil hekma. U kenu filil filunen, um can femnin nes Aishin hayatum butoriya mwayana, ubi uhi oddua tuhumta mein bhayet muana bi kelimu bi tahaur of heat muyana sa muhum bosugmadi nessel bit hebul hekma. Hm fabodolil philosophia, fadolil bi bi hebbul hekma filasifhaani leuneni and sahsiani basdolil nesel libi hebul hekma.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Um basintayani Hatabil kelemal felsifa, Mishdaymandel haib amabut fizin wahed wobi fakkar fil hekma. Soetan wobi Bisma kilmitr hekma, uh mutakheyil wahed anddu hibrofilha afizjay dawar uh shoglo kwayes, Ayrifzei atamal al meshekilha eleya kwais, abba at hagaim can tigif heelu, lematigisirter hekma uht, yanisaofia.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

Yeah datan lemamal uh oneabadarisf gamal was alnessem kalaman modal eher falsa m kalman ehal hekman bolu thael shokhsa kim thaili. Matan bikher rogel o sit uh khbirfisin umatan shar obiod, yeah, shar obiad murtobabbil hekma um Wadatan shoh zabi kalem braha, matfamshili annibsa uh el hekma morttobil hudu. Afyanin Tem Shademutasar, Taban fina sad bitan kalimit braha tb Hakima, Yani kalem trio to brahafi omkilo yani umfa falhekma murtobato akid fidin sbe l-hibro, uhaditir fal hai, u soreatiktir, ugarrobtuktiru, filnifa of illemen fesh, fa ba'anda kilho e kholo satil haiyaf ta' ishil haiezy um Bataraf Tamil temyzet muayana, btaf tishoufil haged zay mheya, uhtaharaf ilim muhemu illim shu'anes kul haged di guz imin uhinsami el- el hekma. Ul nesil kanet ptawul tosal lihedi il morhala, batori ayani giddeya giddan um ikfu atin me'ala alismu twa samumul falsafa. Il halajan kilmet falsafa lihabuad akadimi, uhrib akadimi mumanhag, lido rosat mmun mwayan hayan n ktier. Um lekin bordudimish damish tarif uh kefi l'il falsaf ana tokadin nul falsafa uhhiha l- meseha wa altorialana beshufhabihha ulroyin ulaw tallimna nushufabihha kido oktor yimkin tib uh tmufida lina surafar dea oktoriani. If ikretinenta tibbil hekma wa tasa ilal hekma.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Ya naiza wulhagan mudwa, laqabesebin felsefa wahobbil hekmayani umabatkila zerga afakar mak shwayf wadaharif lil hekma. Day side n shway akhtar nehnan kalem uh fulmodwa de bank, lekin ma dorsh ankir innu. Brahma min inlul felsefa falan fi aslaha heye, mabda hobbil hekma, witafkir boomkfil umur, ilinu ma'alwat, yani isuma, elil felsefa wahdeha, mishgemul farah, yani lemhati tirat schopenhauer, mishel hagelin tefalan heteb apta raha alashen tazdat hekma, yanin tefalan, bit l'muda, muakad gid. Wake innu feles femish uleilin ba guz emin ade hum wa ta'kit. Ya mish bes tamuk fi ta'kid muain hyenang munkin yebdu kinu uhmet and a misha eyze can uh wahdem laboratiliken tani bit bit stafiziniani uhid then yan.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Uh muqteli fmaf right if hagit kiri gid so uh abkori bani lo gilakan not kede am i unclear enough yan callos and muhammad kife atmen that kun mish fame yesaltel nfamish fi fellasufismo alvin plantinga saish uh rogel kibir best so ketp kotub kitir kotub minhayani kotubhina kedagbira u mishala yani kutumakot. Kifwahed mkutu butatubi alla kala kant. Felusuf tani uh uh manuel kant, felisuf mashur oi mashurba a deho wasab. Yeah kubiul innu uh an izo shahlokum fekra kantibiulla uhumbasinushha lana bashrahuda, andasat telefali. Lenaketala izebele suf muhimma o you gamed ewi uh great philosopher Yani Lism tiktibotori up has in Nesmuhmat Bashvahmau in Tys Tulli. Falam in Nesmashwam in Tys Tulli, Youduba Yamelu, Duktorha tu uhusa nasheni haulu, Trohadu Salu interkut how to uli Yani Anam uhdianam uhil croal wahida, uhleton tobakala had takantu Schopenhauer yan Iza uli umro an Airfin one netkalum, uh the anab is belly of Hamasanan. We had the only anfim chang in lint old besuhtholes. Okay no el Hagetil Lintabut oddiwa te anfekerana morra ketapt uh minifister Bahasan Kant or can paragraph wehead keta mokutawehead fi keteb critique of few reason uh knock the lockl mahad. Uh paragraph Sabigi Dana Retu, Yani Asharot, or we can etel morrot and how f paragraph wahed the be ule, u katap tan or hagabt, kil mayani haula shrahel il paragraph da Usel limtu. Uh qua we kotubusudbi awil doctorayani bosat mina maltu, but il il il semester il badih, doctor batli email ali metigana isa anashakfil Basilin tabtu. Fa kambekbukata valita la chur, yeah faultelo taem sot a tani hellwa nakadab hagga roggal yanim sutman hai fore to teni. Mafimtu and a familiar kid the machimch, we got the mafimch at a sore ashan of besana wana baktibuk tfehim. Yeah, yamkathagamishfehima, ukay inu saat pitek t' oddi what fill of korwa mil of korwa fil it or bital of kor will of corbitas dead wuduhan, if yet l'am fate sibil kudra in nekta baranha, wo tsihha, wutitne ishfiha, bazemekunla matitla barra heatel itor sweye batifkad il nu atalintok t mesik fiha, zemakun lheta tilintakut taif, tifambiaha ubiule. Wuneski tul kabul no laint erhadzaikant, lesm tchusha alam kan't shwa, lesm khoshaam shoppenho, shwaya, ulo the kelt fibi mayekfi had tidi chuf il un motilfi kreya had tidi chuf tori alho biktibiha obbizibialag. Faizoli, ehtmel kantiba canbia maka nelventak plantinga can be hazar shwaya f Moktaya andikan p sre and bus um Lenho refsus matli, and you know if you hagatoki ba mishali. How you knew maharoto and nthawl tiktibtari a wataw sahla in aktitfehimbiha ithadi bas in aktukun basiita laad matar munhir matazil fikra, wunghirmat sata helfikra. U low ilha mish tahit fihim mat baran haget sabat al fimel kibir a we tabir bita muakat Wa to melkibir a we hate s ram ines in a town man wikit di your your sonat any modal hekma.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Oh eat a t haia lehna shinfi Hale sa halo what how basita and left lay has a hello to shaker bomb and I get a muhem flayku lessa halo mafuma water hai burdo yani and the locham in nefelod in hair what how basita Ice birdo amazed me turu il muhtelife il mufakirin muhtelifin biatamlubihama womudel hai wata kada yani a mokini kun failesuf tahlili behut bea il waka we haiwil in ahoe hot of propositions what how uh uh iftrodat wa arguments uh wa hogag muhadeda wa fita ri etenye menhilelil edeb mesen kitib hikye wa menhilelil hekeye, betosalkem uturuhatl hai, wa tahlil il hai wa lil waka, bisekli sahadbi ba uqrab lines menin uera cantual Schopenhauer, la yeqra haduta le edib mu'ayyan, le wehedayesh f fisuel, aw l ustura, fiha sura mabin cayanet, thatit hairibase, widi munkin to kun butot fi hekma an de hatal mustakbil il mandush heavi il maharatil akademia tatu neshtabik ma paragraf le kansa.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Uka innu intab I zinf nifsel mabin nwain min al marifa. Wena hnapta dinamal fsafa. Basifi nwa il marifa lwaya ilfiha anaandi zament propositions andi, gumal moyana, of cor moana and aarfasrha, wa aarf osif biha, haga moyana an hai lh nation. Bainama mokan hagi b andu noamin al marefa, lir uhir musi uhag, likein nahama wood, like inaguwe. Wa vikafinis betuhag and fiagatfil hai, saabit sirhafi kalimet, sabit sihafi gomal, likein tdart sirhov kusa, tetar tihtibirham in khelel kuss, wudal amalumasalan yel philosfer rus, mashurin benomakanubik tabu kusase, Leo Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, uh, katabu kusas, ma katabush uh katum katapta manto hot falsafeya, likein ktimenhum katab kusas, kusas amika, u gbira, ulihethir rohibala sha silbiroha, leno mim can hasu ennu, alfikra na housal lines okta awi, wa authar fines okta awe, benakel hum kussa fihal ficril falsafi ptei min inni uhuhom il fikril falsafi lwaatu. Bazemkun litnin me tegin badi lahaddin meal elfishit ketip. Ani ketablezmi baandu fikr felsafi y other yisihov kusas um awimkin fihatta of kor m sharfisakhov utrohat illafkusas, mesha, yanni b sa eyza ulhatal fasalugudiin canandomuada, yani hadneze uhosartro albert comu tadu worddu ktebu kusas, and dohom el uturhatil felsafair tome like in kaban katabu kusas katabuhaket, qanombi ulo no ramap tiktib cusa andarf anakalem swefhalatanian al adabiani u kudritil adab and noyosa lheta amika fil insen uhuniata khatta ilfaletri,atahata il defeaat el fikreya, el shakhomukinikon hatata or in t ademtelo utrohatin, the dilukusa yptidi atasar biha hot oftidi hebbishemana, weptidi ytiber mafum felsafi minchilel il kussal u demu bedun my ulil utruhanafsa.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Yanifi hagikeman fil fil cussa bizu cut them up tall lihum asme yaon vakar hadem is bessel hagetel Yanimish Bessel with the bet rusweleckin kalim Yan bedri call the say masan homeroswella hag, oh be calamal iladwale. Huafhi cuss, more tab ism batal muayan, will batal de mukinikun mazar ilham akhleki in an shafinhua tasarov behekema il elihedi, wumazdi, fawake innu bilhimni fado il muayana, mishminhilel utrohat wa hogeg, walekim inhilel haduta, huwa bain lifihe, a de in Namudagil insen ilbiashked, namudagil insen, il fodel, ilmukadem leyefil, ustura defil, kussadi, a de ewa ananifsaish de heyedir hellit senata aywa ana eyes a bottal zay meda bottle, w eyes atkulfusrad you mish minha, wa hatafar mah batari e de hei.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Whatal whalashha saha. Yes, wimkin daba ali a robna lemafumal hekmelhana kalamanu fikrit hoashha saha fanay'shazayu uhikra falsafaya uhurdu akidaroknalhayani fikrit a world view, another haiate elheya il of core ilbora la minhilalha, elamukumbashua iliha, like in heya magmuaml of core, but had an bashufalam zaywa. Farisufus Mudala Sword, we're not had allah iltarofni il of Korila naish biha, soel mina liabaktu Minal Lama Min Lamala, Min Lush Minalish, Asha Ash asah Weol Kul in Sendu Igaba Alasuel the Hatal Omruma Masarha Awit Kalimbiamuk and Ligebata Shokse Muayana film uh Shokse Moyana Arafik tape, uh say, Shokseit Baba, Shokseit Bottle CSI Mayan Hobas. How the il Igeba Alaswelda ilugweek bong linterfan mukum konchwey awil inu di Igattakis Suelu, Mukumakonchi Suktohov, of cour, iligaba sueldi hat hadit kimbira ewimen itio rotak wakorotak filhaya besura yo meptamel ilamtas has sop habitation, betamil ilamatif tahadi keinnu il ilhem dezamentu shachseiadi Ayisha Gwek u bit hadidlaq, andamfrutze, warfikra, ya iso l'alanet pitalabalma ktiraway, and l'anet dayment taltebalaq hayat shahsil yabaktu. Bizupt, bitollek busil rogalda lef u Damil Villa di il Murotu Ptela Abdohta and Nigila, U Kalbta u Bigrim Sharfize, Waal for Hanin Mobsutin Away of Hamem Seba Bus Rogelda Yabaktu. Inta i Rogelda, Stiriandan. Sti compound the Sti compound the Panosh Tirit compound Hatib Rogelda. Hateb Alibachtuta, Winter Tosalin, uh Hodalaiish, I'll highlight it as type and toash, and hold the layish fellan, il haias and frutashama. Hadi Bitalabal Masharak Base Tor hasot hegidan li il highlet step and toash.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

And here to cut them ala hekmet hevelasrani in teb Hakim Law Tabanit Head, Alasu El Minibachtu bin a dimlak reway, ta' Raflek Bishak Lagir Mubesher, Minhuel Insen, El Hakim, ilyesh al Hale Stan attakbil Yanzebul Receptor Statik Maftuaq and Feth Giddan lektorahadi Fatibakil Haidi heupten segem fiha uptiptigel with kefha shen tigib il ychalikhtarf tib uh batal musheb lil batal dabata al qassa l canitul alenda ho.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Uhina eizoli mchaimizba to retenb istahtim yunkel metal hekma andalemet heatha l asr. And that's mhthdem muhtalif lekil metal hekmaan, lam mahna bin uulinnu, alfalsafamhabit al hekma sal failasufken, uhrotken, failasuf haki. Hina hekmet heatha lasr man eh, elmonzuma al-fiq krea let yakbal ha heat alasr ala inna pariko sayaftefkir. And lookato kun kotya.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Uhani in a fakkar so e lawana eyza hot tarif lil hek. Zay munkin yetim uhtofha, ala shan tani sh.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Puss uh, some sharif an harfasik tarif lil hekma like another old bad lagata'anil hekma.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Uh tarifet hagamatan saw bag then woman cut again. But uh tarif mab day kataya shani fala nuamin uh keifa tahya al haia let itemsilandu marifa amalaya famefa fiqra and shu landu marifa fikas masharif yeish mishakimal marefa la amaleya litumakkinil insanmen innu ya fil woka filaam il uddemu. Hmarifnu that tarif mishkemil, whaiba fag. Bismislen badhagatil Rahimu. El Hekma Fodila mish uh Azul Mishim Kenea Yani Ihina maesman Hekma was the ke. Yes. Is the ke mkene? Kudra. Mortolil insenil in send uh itwala dandu IQ Mwyan and do the ket money and wam tarif in the key lauda ropt enough sakukeda like an echer into phenes as keminess modalida lockabe takwin homajini fell. Okay. Yani munkanshib azeki gidden, why of tuker ilal hekmahmaksi maybe zeki gidden bazake u mahdout like inibakim. Okay. Okay inu l'hekma uhadawab inta iza ishbilandak belmua talikamin in kanyat or kudrot u fodila henna maneh anda hege uhrtinamih. Fabinizbell phasfelasfelikhiani canitl il fodo il hega intoil biha. Inta bit twiled andak al kudra in nakintatan mufil fodoil. Wal fodo il hael umur illamatan mufia tahia alha a saleha. Okay, fashion tmayiz eyel fodila, lesn t shoof, lesant mandakige, il masan arresto can be semmi il yudaimonia. Yudaimonia da mafumandu, lhoa mafum al isdhar, flourishing. Alhoa, andibelunabet, il be zira fil art, be flourish binuitlayiba, il Zahra, il muqtamila, our shagara, il kibiakada. Il wusl yudaimuni al homosil shla u chawil law bazvanus, homosil shil yudaimuni aptatwil halital is the hour batatul kamla. Ubi yul tabil in zanitl is thehor batatu e. Wela klaun ta is ta'f il fadila, lez mtifam halital is thehour. Foristu alakimasalan efadilitis sikkina. Fadilit is sikkina mishina uhtilma. Hm Lil enullaan mishbiu hakakakz dhorisikin, and you hakakak lkos diminisikin. Kos de msikina na tibba t'akwis. Pantafem tinnap t'taqwa siba ilfa illi ilfadila kull ilchhos il sikkina ttagaash t'takwais. Hm t'abil insui il is thehorbita shakui. Eba al hagatil intogash and tis dairubinisbelumba l'hekmafadila, el hekmahdu, el hagatilba lawandaq, bitalikmatu sal shel cosdiptaak, bitalikmatu hakush, is thehorak ismaharvila. Okay, hea il ayadet o elhagataliptakasibhafi hayatak, illiptagalak tatahur. Hm win nizbal hum, guziman ilzdhurl inseniken, inun insen, yakun, kein, achhloki, andu al-fadila, whoda l bihali insen, aish hayat and t wash.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Okay, il il itarda l'il hikma al fadila wa radila yani umurtabad bekasdu goodul insen, and eiser galubash and hai bandi suel taba nawin fakar fihua, e kas du good insen, yani uh sikina ta' insen e yani s. Yani il goradmin sikina sehl na no salu, like ingaradman u goodin in sen yani atak moudwa and takfak beserga sinal warov mauddua e tarifle in the inter winter bit a demu massen bit kenaman guz yebdulinu maharifhi goz a khlok, yani guz ila lok maharif, nektaf, win guz in aktaesh, nekta. Wake enul guzil marifide who al kudra alakra tul woka kemaho. So, wulwaka ya nili abat kitiir. Wil kra a dil woka yebdun heya bitu e hilni l tasarofas lena wai it uh tatasak malwoka lena shayfu themhal ira lena eri bihal lwokado. Uguz i min eri tilwaka, heen an eri hu wana muguddineli. Wanabamal ine ilgharod min wugudi a headi al ordha of y heva il il il kun. Wila wan eri hagalot reliben an aisholot. Cosakan yes up. Fa wana bakelim an alanet, wanabakalim an hekmet havalas, reabdu in nul munaf sehina heyale, karatruoka.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

So Yani winter il kimel insen, il hagatil hakima, il hagatil frutamebiha, e le kalik hayat aish hayatak, hayat musdahera yani hobenizbelo.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

Yes, il hadel los of nodal uh we if elgeninab tatil vilap tatu dahlozda hakak insen yetu big hakakel cause de minu gudu fantusal eba eleve yani ilo e lumbasalt yani saitha beshak lebubeshadiakuna alvikra ilmo alin mishwail kalem de sa like il ilwa keinu beat bali aw beat ad dimli aale innu al cause de minugudi awa innu elhoyamin uhlit haiati fero e koro tili he di il koro ayani uhlmuta.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

Yes. Dolili bihalu hai tl in sentas tahak and twash fi lensemitalaser. Limbusot uhteh inaketab Merteh, washinkida uhrodit in the ayatas tahak and toash. Halibela kina fi mishbus uhadi moyan yasol mushkelmana you could rohlmuta ifil man zuma diho bus the focal rohul mutha or focal manuadi hagatl heli man and the mini al hagel bit heli high tost and twash uh faise uli uh um winter la no culla size ha kulasiza. But the hot hagat hakak away go way akit akit faya nag half in naha tocka kosdach half in naha tohak kusdil insane. L noizu la yani uheskiti lama curat boomka fi yani insen yesh hai di hamana, weani ish higia testahk and tosh canfi Iat Octorbiktier, min rohta belax, the fine skiti nohaul mota, mahomesh doryin la haiatosta and twash, and to mukum consum, u stamta, like an a kaish hayatustahka and tosh. Yanifi uhlem nafsi alametama ismo roy roybaumeister. Amal foto Drosso an uhin alhayalati lahamana u saida amal Yani amal gab magmuagbiram ness, uhalhum yulu, halentahaya saida, oroyakana tahi hayalahaman. Hm, salhum as elektira anhayat hum, haiw yul e anualfet mabini shok salahya saida, u shokh salaisha hayalahaman. Whatamal hayatilbiula, hey nu el nessilbutulan ofsanaisha haisaida, hyanes masalan the tahiya foder oe. El istimtea fodr Inessil bitulin haya tahihayalahamana bteki kosita u turbut elmodi will hodr bil mustab Bataraf Tile inafsafi itor ausa inesil Aisha Haya Laha Mana Hayatha Asap Ufia du totot Okter, Ufiha Tawatur Octor, Inesilaisha Hyya Sayyida Hayatha Asal Okaynu Neslaisha Hyala Mana Aisha Haia Hagat Imkin Ogbar Minha Aisha T Hadiat Osa Inesilaisha Hyya Saida Mishbitfokkar Awif innufi Hagat Ogbarana Aiza Aisha Anam Mrakisfe innu ana Aisha Laza Kwis Alak Masalan innu nesilaisha Hayala Hamana Um Muhtam bi uhdatilakot Mishkimatila lakot. In nesilaisha haiya Saida, muhtamma oktar bi la elakotil tistamta biha la yanila kihru gukti masal manesu ymbistu. Lakin laisha la mana masan sad bila il guzim in mafum ilman fayatu nafi had the fayatu taben, hubi khut beluminu. Udabi khalakra mish said, bi mafum il saida l shauril igebi, blax the hagasaba, biba mdrut, lekin binizbelu hobiamelu, muhem. Wobi watam hagitl biula ibus saeda ulmana mortobtin babadma doshtif sulhambato, sulhomashen, yhawli drishu miye. Basbiul innu shuh salaishaila lahamana bifisaed ofhayetu. Lakin lawintam brakis basala il saeda, betufkit kitir min il hagetil lah klimafil haya. Waat n haget hauli haigi lihaho, wepti di anima kolam makaletu biul, il ahlamabiforo, hnazin uladna ishu haiya shaklahii, awazin robbi uladnali, lei. We will la calent eyes uuleda kitlaunes. So ade wa itlaunes I shin hyalahama. Wel lag diterbe o diterbe. Hm wobul in tama frutti tam inu leda ki ishu haialahamana mish basya ishu hai side. Lam mabtasa alil man bitle is side lamptasa aliside basiri bott ofko. L'ptasa alisado beside busha ozgar hia sataya octor uh hia mukun difficultya haiat kitiir muhem Bes Toban Henal fakrebayes the sawa. Il asa what is side.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Basi henna okay anar eyes and hekmasab with Arif's adam could Basani went up the kalamani side uhumil happiness at a kelinhoa mohtelifan mafum uh tight aristo went up the kaleman mafumil is the hor il flourishing. Arupt ma bein il happiness will meaning sap eruptobinal flourishing will meaning l is the har will mana yimkenha octur.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

So doesn't have interesting away uh agalap tergamet or istu bettergem you daimonia happiness. Ubalara beside Linu kilma di fimkin ausur atam makanch man into mwayan. Can maneha haya ala bad liha wada i gebi. Fakenit kilma o sa a women in anadlati mobsutashen anakalte walk backways.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Hm.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Lakin ana mobsut fi hayati, kenut mapsut balabikama interesting in Hanan Nufa Krega mnin Basani ana uhiatha l halat saaida di hea noam badu min halet il iktife o likti mel besuratin me. Tama mushkela nu kil mit saida delwati ituzilatli l-mota.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Saida di bait kilma makruna delwati alyanifafitna masribel halawayet. Yanin tani sada bi halaway. Kul mati kil mit sahida intafidmarak sokar. Um bitakelak fmud leziz.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Awe umakaruman say, yeah yani nahagawe sukni sucrbinwam stamlabadia sunkaru aasalukanam the golo tulni eyes u Koroa li il woka whenifham headil haiatash zei uzehha li hamana ulahakima ishha sahla. Yeah no yani ifemodo siahda damasalan uhi philosufis movecter tadrus. U mamtu. Okay. Genkis ken da can uhsim codal uhul magul uhyani amalkam mgbir awimor was shore if ya too. Uh Basabithail How Ma Bin Jenkis ken u mumtu who was oyer. U mumtu but jankis habibi uh ilam matikbar no share fan eyesab shaiza bana gore zay bobo habibil muhim innaktibsuot muhimisban Wembi you tail inno bad ma jankis hand ba atal uhtosabu talo oro yani bad mamal kull Iget low amalhad fab beer ummupt tam mahwartolo jenkis habibin tomobsuitanki's bulsuit mofru ummu the falay. Untomopsuit haialin tashta hedi msaway wudamasa knockd Tamelo, uhanin valer le noad dra sot in nafodem hyanana in nahabithawtiis uh saida sen, aul man hatlsen baumeister naful kabulana, anam badich tarif l'ha lati lahamaana, wala tarif lisada na sa altil shosul deni, hal in tara in nakinta betahi haiya saida, hell in tyak in nakbitah hai hamana. Hebutul Shannan Valaru Tul Munkan insen yboro yuno yha heliamana, ueba hulton. So, munki boro yo noa ibi haiya saida, ueba mibai shaiba, iba insen yani mudammer wa mutvi l'nessil haali, ubinizbela hina bayaphalt uli hana tegin nirgal mafumu yu daimunia, nirga limafum ilzdohar il hai, innu ilha elfiha shuh s ayesh haiya soliha, aesh haiatostuk and twaesh, labuddinia mahir, labuddinha badl hudud innu mainfash hadish zaymaaies, butori uh l'ho eyes yeshbiha, uba il nho waro yun home mobsut, nhu ra yunhuash hai mana, no lukhlos medemin toro yakeda temem yani intaketa kwais. Udalibinizbal had de zae oristubnizbal falas faktirio lekla hena mehtagin nufokar kwais awi, yani eetkun insane, u il cosdmin nekkun insane, il haya let tostahak and twaash, u il hagetilauf Hayatak inta hatehudmin Hayatak il heavy l sif na hayatwash, u di haga mish mish thatia yani Toman fi ashkel muhtali fali hayat tostahkant shkulha hat stakoshana stagab besobbt like in fi haget muyana yebdunhalabud andtakun wuda fi eye haiyanosifab in ayatosta will will fodealit um hekmayin fan heya that I guess that Bashkel muhtelife, Fukulis yok mohtelifa.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

Yani one of a kalim an mafumal hekmafizeman aristu kalbu wah head, well I canim can shaklu echtelefin heart, yan shan velar and lissemin miniman wal hakutba ed them session hanil AI waqsarah lefat nozai gidden yanfelfil megelda hemudhish uh can it wahdem in utruhatil heyabit ed dim, u bithaw chuf ta kidl wakal na shin fiya nye ya nifil kun mikalman, l-fturat bitanil hay, ba'ed bosita u shahha nefsehab nefseha u l mawdoh khalsan, le nehnale mawdoa akal minkideh, heyye kenit wa ke neha hajze twa hagit akter min egl isbet innu bad ta' tawrot teknoloja rahiba l-ħasla ħalejen il-karal akhlaki usba muhaqqat bi kefila yun ki ta'yul. In nekti me eze bin is sahaw ilgal dirwati ba xi ghaliban yanfrojaha, xi shiba mustahil. Aw hat ten nekti eis bil slubil la yanibil bil menahil utilitarian in nektarf enhil akfer nafan, wa enhil akkal ezeh inte dilwati met dar sitarf hag. Hatel ma'alumeti, anwana msem ba fakkar f' mokaf, an aizarof ehil ehl mokkaf il aidel dilwati. In nehnano offasofideh wa laf sofide. Heke bitul esesin il-malumetil bitgilna, ba'it kitira mitawege, wa metlahbata umicha weha l'argetinita, bait mustahiltu off fno ta witul aywa edi l-hassel, wa edi mokkafl aklaqil munesebl l'has. Intostim shab ilhassel. Inta lhassel double silak min khilel mahalumet kitira a ghlebhalot. Msilfit meg seria fan kalim anabelim fan anin tikbet emri ki. Mass Ya du wanabakelim an mura shakmayan be twarodlia il newsfeed btei Bishakli mo ayan shekim de assassin yatasakma miuli anashha, muli si, a meulit kafeya, il dairele anemhogbiha as the kai, famalop to sali annu inhuashton, a mala to salia annu in ahu and murasha halgal callis.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Fana, ben takebil shakhselakar dudu, iftrodan minni and hoda hagasha we henadman azmit cra to wakam and khele social media, ye hagwam hagat kalem na fia board of halatania and a ze social media site bit bit show cora itna lil woka. Baskinakut haga opsotnikit. Inta hajtri akla kmin fin, u hajtri any akla. Hm da ba yani Zamen Modwakambosit feminta fi nesmayana, bit chtagal, bit gibil akle, and harda kul shirka minishirikadi ali haba kus soheya bedgib aklaham nino, bitchaggal minu, bitchangalufin, wintalamab chtri mishirkadi talentalan keda bit shokhla alalal al hadit tenil galbene landu, mahal zhaier, lenu di shirka liha frubafkulhetta fala'alam utehut shhul hadil mahalli swahirai, wula u shti mahalli, asan machtiri mustawra do kuldibat korrot aklay, mabneyala, koroa muayyanal illibiasal filam, un manzumaq to sodeya kbira uh when we bit sobi since badla kal manzuma lh sode mathekatrega u henahna bin dusala galbenel filbaladel fulaneita bichteri muntakena, ubitala k no lintri munta keneda fi tof, bishtagalfamasna, febalatanya, tabugrim chtili muntak da besopta nu gozimnil shen veled out to ulo hanam mbainesh adrin, wumushanidar, nhaol nifham kul hagahasla, fukul korrot, andabna kudhaya. Damish mubertaba nanamfakur shmuber nanamhaul shahud uhrot ahlakaya faiati, butinu alalamishbit, yes, alalam wakot, alalam saab and hagamhagatal bamiliham oharoniani fewag in noadam nitdi ho innu haula bus aala alha il upsot anyiza uli Af Mithel kwaisl Modwada ho in nana main fashab a muhtem awi ba in nesil lana marf ho sh ala social media ala heseb in yab a muhtem awi ba koti b Neslanarf. Fa mishla inuana aham inu nesal social media mshahatambi aleken ma'dar s misharf misharf a taf al wahatem wa age wa worud ala kul had al nesh media min nes anamarov shinesdi wim can omri ma'bilaf Hayati. Lekin tob nessel hayati anarfbeddin mselda shakelma social media batori ayani mhsosa liken paula ulenu taesh hayatak fiddawair itlabaral alamal liftorodi, itlabaral bismal qbor, busa la hayatakalinta fiati. Wisal nafsaba, anahashana ish hayatas tah and tashanish hayala kimullahman amili. Il ilf mutanewel edi, absotaw awilha inana busala il alakotl haiya landi fayati. Intabtaamil in nesalhawlikzeh. Tabhalinta eder tukun in shokhselinta roya kinak mafruut tukunu fila alakoddi. Tab ahdefak halemakl hai. Ihei, hale falan in nana ghani awa bahandil villa furune, abandil la tob ledi hdefak. Le intap shtagalmin agilil hagedi Amanhalatani anil felu su kun kalamala, shhurlek in mfru tofu karfizze, wanabamilana ba melu dali. Watokad any ay e gebel ay suel minil as iladi Asheni ba egebba eizuli ta' kud ila hayatl is dog alhamnikalmari out the kud ilaatasak and to aish toll of hekma.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

So, lesim you tlobuetem and naktar il hagatel has sitni in a mehtag hekma lamachal lift. Taban ifaga a melfok or fi yani toma fi and anamhtaga robbi laal yenny the closanabit masul and a had denimus ulea, orbena denimus ulay itbeni admin, andamas ulaan home with them robben. Um and a mishmas ulbasin home my mutouch, yani eyes ole aul yani akid masulen, akilhomosh roban zbutro have mishwe and hefam squeet kiss fem yani a mishara family. Tha t tawudu time matbsa kulla mygboctor. Kulla mapti udriken nana guzimin dori hewa teshkil wa taquin shahsiit heathel in sen liakun al insan elfudu kunutawa mishinana laham al kula haga like nana andi door muhim fi in no uhun shahseyit heatel insen, ini unami insen yetu. Ana mahtaga b Andi igabet ktial selektira owiala il muhim, il bihalil insen, insen bahak, an mahtagas al nafsi t'sir tori alana tambihama ebni diama vinti haiba haiba e yani ahebu. Yani ahebu yaniwan hagetelptoba wat hagedan sanar yana ktirno Lamabetheb hadn't sutu. El khilf dummaru moduata memen. Yanyana lao yani ebni law akiltu manga subhaduhri lil haib omsud gidden. O shukala, o shukolota, o sukkar o yanwana akiltu zem ho eyzi yeku, lawana basattu, a domoru.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Say.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Fa anafikra and satlamabo la mshekul aklintakul lezem tekul aklida, pitre mi alardu it marmawi ayatwi hub batu wana it sa an akid echhaga isanu ibnivayatu bibki u maksuru mi day u besaizu uli anal inni bahebu lesma milkit. Uf mafum alhobb ba hagamktalif, ba alhobba mishmanani ni upsitak, l'hobemane inni, ayeshirak, uhhirak, mishinaktibsu daiman, len naksat bitba'is haget and shmafrutibayza, ulauhatilint aizu, da hai dammarak, utifagat tokar, tobudamane ebn is belena. Hm halana munk insatab eyes haget mishlihiri, umane ha inna hebbenafsi, umana inna hebem roti, umana inna hebbus hobi, tob analomishhaaref Hirhom kwais, hebumze. Yani sahla uulinu, ebni lismiakashei. Hmiru saheyan sahli tairef. Bashiru ke insen Arafuze L Eudaimunia Liz the Horbita Lomandakshma fuman Liz Dhar Kwais had in bit hebbil insane Hiruze Misharf hip laumandach hekma. Ulawdal nem nyalil ilakot Ibanam sharfam hangem lomanj shekma.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Hm Lawanais uh Yanim sweet huut minil uhril hala. Hal ye hewhal tofuck ma ayef in lawisekina tokways, fell in sangarad manugudu nohua, yes deher, way you say him fizz the her manhaul um akid hemushkelin wanazin uliho like. Ah, taba demo sa mokan yakod thehal at any. Had the linter leabar an caused lahu mahana fallen, mugudul insen.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

U aristoramhawli go besu elda, Ipsais al who alibiumaizel insen. Okay, Faelin akidis the hurl insen my fashibahu was the horinabit Fabitel Modomish Modwa Takzeya Rassian, was the horil insane akidmishho best is the horil haiwen. Akitfi Hagmuhtaltab ilibi maizel insen il insan Benezbal aristu ke in akl andul kudra alal fikr, wa andu andu akle hagim hagatel to mayizu. Faho kalemalal nuzdhoril insen, ho anoshot ruh al mutafma al akl insenya. Hm bad nozaran el mosudk and a hasnu al manhagea diim kintiba manhageya side nipti defukr, who analamababusa al insane, and a shafi, mean hoal insane. Fa ani sweit haget atakutnawa e anyani, asul sahlet chef. Aul haga il insane kein alakoti. Hmab the twilit fa'lakot, pin ish bindowar a la lakot, aishin femon zoomut alakot am matan, and then alakot muhtalifa, la lakot al muhtalifa diliha kawanin muhtalifa tha kumha in nana aarfa ishfa alakot saheha wasaweya, ya total mini inni ana akun insen sahe wasawi, codr inwa ishva lakot, wa totala minini ni afamila lakot dibitaish zay. Suradi illis thehorbahina and nana as dehair unasha la it is dehair hashhabi in ni ana akoun noal insen ilibiarf Ya ishva alakot saheha waswe bemaya totalla mini ini Arafela alakot bitashes zay wa'mel efila alakot in muhtelf.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

Okay. Basfi male tani attakat kulina mudor Rabin Ali Wahwa Khiyasel is dehardh Menhilel ingezetil biatim tahakikalakot biatim khies at di e anabestes mirfiha, menchilel il ingazet lenaba fitar Yani Addi Hameltiflus Libni Addi Edir Tagewiz Binti wa gehizha gehez kwayes wam la reception azim fil ekir hiabadl ingezet, liinfa anneha, to kas hadat mbaar kom w shak lemuhadet waho dany ulize kut ass and muhte ml alakato lemeta tekaliba fil obwa and tekaleman elaka ar msto muhtelf shwa armstowa a maqshwem nakinta bas amalteflus kwaesalibnek. Sa. Awareftiga uza goza kwa yes, and tekalemanu, houwa ke insen mufuiba mlzei, wana bestes murfi mashua insenitu dezei. Day ye yanin il hek memin in a heye, hagamu gehe, liz dieye de farwa, was die ehdel ingezet li elonkel akhtar fil elakatil inseneye.

SPEAKER_02 49:25

So, hal anakeda famaxah, bzot, hodal yani, hod yani, zori bordo di liadawabi, khoroatuloka, ho ilimu hemfalan, yen kroatuloka msbas ilimo gud bas akaiim e u ma kayemsi ili stah in estasmirfi nafsi o stasmirfi wati, w il mestahesh. Wodalashkas korat combut to amarintestesmeruf mozharkum, amarintestas mirufi tharwitkum, amarintestas mirufum eitkum, bezil mag, kibirashan halfis al hagedikullaha, mishbitasmerf nafik, mishbitzmerfu ledk, mishbitasmirfuledak, mishmanamishin tmishbitum haget, lent mishariv to robbi hum, misharef to kaburhum, yani tokrotandul fekredikan be ulinis uhna arfin inu lawenta eyes to robbi uhara hoson bidgib mu robbi, bidgib shhosmuderrib, Hashanul Hosonda yiba, Hoson ydar yikun Yani ofdal Hoson yfa ykunu akhthar Hosan Nefer. Meshay had the Byarafirobi Hassina, Dines muthhossisa, Mishai had the Byarafirabi Maweshi, Dinas Mutochosissa, Fahmar Ilay, Hasinu Il Kwaisla Heto Ilah Kabarik Tablaba B Robbi Baniadmin Mean in Libyarafi Robbi Baniadmin. Mean in Liyarafitolla il insen, Halkuliness, Mahilfikrafteri, Finas muthosal Hesina, Finis mutism Basikulinis Tarben Darf Robbie Baniadmin. Beniademas helaway. Skrot bihauli ho fala andemasalaway. Hohnarfin Robbbi bene admin koisin, Whanarfinatolla Bani admin, achloki, achlakiyan wa shaksi yot hum shahsiot sewayya not gane fia, wal lahnem sharfin. Whuena the teni this hour il insane le sol. Falow is the hurl insane teni roha ul muta in nageh il farwa, la hedi hagatilbuchakilz dhor inseni in gazeti u kalfikra, and a shahsu da bihawli heb. Ma bihawli hebbento, biha li hebbnu, besabinizbelu ilmuhim, illahu krima, hel hagedi, laudikro waka, laudal waka fellantam, besilazinu ulu, libnik tishfu, libinchufu khasas kitirawi innu abuy deni kulhager, basana muftakka de la lokama. Okay inuho bihali uli laqan ahamkulil hagedi, hela lokam ilalokama abu. Shkulness waya, uškunas shafa il mudwabatori adi, wada li bihalina, hazinuli inu la ilmahtagi nibzil maguda shennifham oktarunarf oktaru andina hekma oktarfilhail naishan.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Wil well hekma di Yani atakhail kemeni innu wugud nahawaleen hukem be beudif ila hekmitne. Yani atail innu adawa ale the weer girmuate deyani, min in nesil bit edi muktelefel wakalnu ahlebne wa keinu dorabina ala andasir wastakotia, yani, kulines betegri geriya dehe, kulinez, bithawul tosa lgaya dehe, kulines, eyesetis kunfilheti eyzit shtiel sila de he fana biyaneshi mal mal alba yin wagri geri hekmetal asri muriha. Yes Yani sa li ebzin magudu war lamafiga betwata. Bardu inu elmawka fila mfina harda ulin nul ahlebe andashim shhaki makfe. Yani nafimushkela fushkelf trial fem na woka. Fe yimkin ykun fi tjegli inni um how leftahwidani li uh swat ukra. Yeani u athele in munashedi himhawlal lal tar hefikritin muka to kufi aswat ukh, muku tokunfi karaat muqtalifal woka, muka karaatul mukhtelifelaka hadih te eddin wait hai muktelifa, wunait al hadi muku to kunfiha elem, wafiha uh soabot, wwa rahmkeda il elemu sawbat imikbu tofkadhemane, walptu kutakimitha, walabtuf kudha, um kudritha hale inhea tohakal kalgarat n wugudha. Uhrangindan wasim andam taliani feba than mufrodhan mukanit fridle, hale halae tenia bizat mufumisihada attak mokani akid yes tem kidar, yan hawunan fucker of mess alf til hekma orabtaha bi al hale let itaska and to aash, chokra likum u chhofkom hala tanya men podcast erkoh, andas.