ERGO
Ergo../ˈəːɡəʊ/..Latin for “Therefore…”پودكاست ايرجو فيه بنفكر ونتناقش في مواضيع كتير بتهمنا في حياتنا..مواضيع ليها علاقة بالإيمان ومعنى الحياة والأسئلة الوجودية..بنحاول نتعمق فيها ونطرحها من زوايا فلسفية ونفسية واجتماعية
ERGO
العلاقات العاطفية مع الذكاء الاصطناعي | شهد عمر ووسيم صبري
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هل ممكن الإنسان يدخل في علاقة عاطفية مع الـAI؟ وليه أصلًا حد ممكن يتعلق عاطفيًا ببرنامج على الكمبيوتر؟
في الحلقة دي من بودكاست Ergo، بناقش ظاهرة العلاقات الرومانسية مع الذكاء الاصطناعي، وبنسأل: إيه اللي بيخلي شخص يتعلق بـAI، حتى وهو عارف إن اللي قدامه مش إنسان حقيقي؟
بنتكلم عن العلاقات دي، وعن أزمة الوحدة، وعن الفرق بين العلاقة مع شخص حقيقي والعلاقة مع كائن إحنا نقدر نصممه على مزاجنا، ونخليه دايمًا مهتم، متاح، وبيستجيب بالطريقة اللي إحنا عايزينها.
ومن الموضوعات والأسئلة اللي بنتناقش فيها:
- ليه حد ممكن يتعلق عاطفيًا ببرنامج على الكمبيوتر؟
- إيه اللي بيحصل لما أصمم الشريك أو الرفيق بالضبط زي ما أنا عايزه؟
- هل الـAI ممكن يساعد في التغلب على الوحدة على المدى القصير، لكنه يزودها على المدى الطويل؟
- إزاي الـAI بيتعلم يعمل Mutual Self-Disclosure ويشارك الشخص حاجات عن نفسه عشان يخلق ارتباط عاطفي؟
- هل ممكن التعود على مستوى معين من الاهتمام من الـAI يخلي العلاقات الحقيقية أصعب؟
- هل خداع الذات (Self-Deception) ممكن يخلّي الشخص يقنع نفسه إن العلاقة دي حب حقيقي؟
- إيه علاقة الحرية والاختيار بالحب؟ وهل معنى الحب إن الطرف الآخر كان ممكن يقول «لأ»؟
- هل لما أصمم كائن ميقدرش يرفضني، أنا بفقد فرصة إني أتكوّن كإنسان؟
- هل ممكن استخدام الـAI من سن صغير يأثر على تعلم المهارات الاجتماعية والقدرة على الحب؟
- إزاي التعامل مع الـAI ممكن يطبّع سلوكيات مؤذية، زي إني أغلط في الآخر أو أؤذيه؟
وفي النهاية: لو حد بيفكر يدخل في علاقة مع الـAI، إيه الأسئلة اللي محتاج يسألها لنفسه؟
وسيم صبري | ماجستير فلسفة - الجامعة الأمريكية بالقاهرة
Shahd Omar | Psychotherapist | Researching Artificial Intimacy & Human-AI Relationships | Doctoral Candidate
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بودكاست Ergo من إنتاج المركز الثقافي اﻹنجيلي العربي.
This podcast is a production of the Arab Evangelical Cultural Centre.
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00:00 — الـAI رفيق عاطفي
06:34 — إزاي بنتعلق بالـAI؟
10:14 — تصمم شريكك على مزاجك
18:57 — الـAI وأزمة الوحدة
26:05 — هل الـAI بيخلّينا ننسى إزاي نحب؟
36:10 — هل ممكن الـAI يخلّيني أحس إني محبوب؟
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SPEAKER_02Tawano anyaza ulbasa alana nota lintalisa ainaho alam beatama ta'la could rutna ala tahayu. El kay dashito aml's. Kosalintelisa aila. Analasma shokh seda, anal lemhtora kolmosafotelefi, wana arfanedil mosafotolana bahebaha aulana bangazi bliha, fabiteli sahala awin nana hebbul and heya ostan el mosafotzi Beta' goz emin ni anna. Okay. Dimash mosafot herigeya filailam borro, the hega anna nafti bahebaha. Fahea il il chad dabi baham zail mereya.
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SPEAKER_02Besopt. How alakodzi bchagga zai shminl nargiseya swaya fil insane, and nana shoksa dawa biheb hagaf nafsu, wudal dal haif kulakothawa galeban mababen hebba hegaf shoken, hebebel hagazia, yemma hayzianaf nafsina, emma shafan have nafsina.
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SPEAKER_02Umt ku labtib uh um taman ana l asafal na bobi ba haget ktimenu salveye fam sha'danana akis awish sural egabeya uim kanana mhboktana biha fa fasabi ba sabanana akis sural egabya o kusel egabaye.
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SPEAKER_00Saha nhmitawdin awainu a henkti awa lockomabinno binas hub na hatta, guz igbira wiminha alalal alal chat, uhata ni kalam famo diamu hemma w gbira alal chat, falawanta basba deltenu the had hai oral chat benu khlosal telephone our computer or bi uh myas and we kun hotom bitchwasa awe. Bitaya shinamik. Susan kutbasma uh uh podcast uh can beamu uhwarma awahdan feno lock of uh uh sanda uh boyfriend and uh so moda can be zorrupted lane of sandam share tigehu uh kalimu hagataman safelizu. Wow uh same tulwa to have shall mafu naha, ho aiesh my hai nif kalim atulu kalamalaziho muhta maybe hagid dun tulla, tama bin seh haga, omrubin side mala, omruma pinsay, omro wivandu m'dwa tani muhmehtagi, ho itkalim firaha yaniho ulau fi haga amalham shagbeha, but ullo aliha but uhni uhwizo goz higher fuguzumid day yani maandush mushkala and hassin no demish in san hai lef alokama. Um Baskanpala innuhayapta muhabata ukta ming min guzha la innu zemekunil AI boyfriendahada Zemekun Alalaltafawa kala il muguthayata Tanya al ghariba awi sha lokarum say anibus uh uh ifihad amal shirka an il shirka ashin i kali insen uhdur yikam la ishka ai uhmasan ho ragalkan m mumtu morida u alawashakin hat inhatmutal yenhalam mum tutmar il AI, ho summem AI with the rotil mabinu win mumtu, fa hazinum mad mum tutmu, the other ikam yikall mumtu, besot mumtu, bassi ba bi kall we kall il AI. Umadul min aktarl kasasilani khabditni lam lam lam mas metuhum la innuk d hasasin noaghalot awi filana samov um sharfu mafruuda hasin fhaga ghotwa umafruod ya nessasuri la ta kabbal nuda gozimin al waka alhna shin fi.
SPEAKER_02Ay. Guz im al waka batana, wnut kallim alal aik in no falan hoal bihhtor nowa tohem hayatna. Hayyan haya zayman to ultib shari kate, shariket di ha l tiss kiti awa shayen tihla el il AI da, when he tail and annuis in natis Tamilo umetakunana no mokinikun bazil munesib lil alakotil hay al muhemal hayatna. Faboru, bahebben nif ticker in no l Ai mschho victoria mlaya hegna din sociate in Nohoa, homalush ay kozra ala lichtyor haeya, mugoras and nohoa chat.
SPEAKER_00Sa ni uhamhaget l'kunofiaf, kazal atni kun karma fakretinu, a technologia uhesh uh uh walahaya bururu nabea amin uhesha alal inseneya of aniza tawra, fi hagetmel kibi technologia t'raket benufi, uhkele insenia mu anizinhabas. Hayana kitirawi technologia ptata tawar tegeh ilhayadir repeh. Uh famishinana hasunfinas hasimbulwefana lumi ayashanu any mathelshinho da kanil defow hagazekalakini haga hadbia, wozemakun fi nominalis istirlel umkin wada salbi nes kitirawifi, uhata daf inseni ou hala insene, tamashismiya dafyani, uh n nohai hatangzebli ill mododa, u had uh hagamuriha wiga zebba fiteli andabastril mododa shin aref uhinis. Tami lila sut, layaml, lockoma AI, yamila locoma AI, you tami hell ma frud nan zaigo lamafru Tabanho wasai mantamit uho ma shari kedzi owl shida biasteril hagelham zamia loniness epidemicilwehda ilmauda ila muntasha alamayan f and the next kitilawin if you asmetwehda the maguda flam, and that's hasabelwead of shak lime.
SPEAKER_02Hm bisteril hegazi, fadaman in nowa, in neslip and gazebl hegazi ha the anes has belwehda. Fazi ostanas da yfa il hadden meh, nafseyan uh bikunu mish adrina nohoma ibnul alakot bisaba, zay masama bikunu koborfistin, soyarin fistin, mandom shobfil madrasa sad bikunufil madrasa um Fabiteli bian gazbul hege ashen homma mahtagini kalimo mahad madum shad the keloma.
SPEAKER_00Hagahila.
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SPEAKER_02A tok it in no da bi iltihdem chabi shoksib habinhohoa zail zaikoselechnas maneha, a shochsib tidi an azal an and nestilhayatum.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Tidi hasenho mishmahtega nessetan yin, le akalim gozi, le ak le akambelma uhotipti, mananzi had the asan, had the akfa birod da lapsorabi samebe beftikelkul hagan hayati. Fabiteli be tidun homma yan azel an in nesil muhemma lefhayatum.
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SPEAKER_02Ubi tishfulhoma fulwoka, malwat we busahaali humbilo un nest fallen a lit and homma msbihtamo balakotum alhaya, bip to dun homa ydu le temem kullu, lil chat, lil AI, Fabiteli malwat, weptedun Homa ibon you hasimbel whatab get no befkudu nes muhema gidan fayat.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Okay. Fa fa fa fall any hangatum fruit zagna in no AI must be say I be hella we must kill ahead. Okay, m fruit passes and in a be olik uh an the uh AI uhsutawima sortha me il ithazir il had we ask.
SPEAKER_02Habata ban either afam hoy, hebab and ho and azalan, il a m alha'il hoy sh fi, and ho al ad the mana babni aloco zimu kantuma hasasani nana um ba connect mahad or mahad, and if nafsal wa to baba dan and nestel muhimina live haiat.
SPEAKER_00Well, fishness mu minthaeti. Yani yeni yeni ikutaheb metal. Now our nestal muin faiati so koteba awi. Um shadr uh the area. Ya's oui and a bulk butti away kiti away, but odd tiktirawiata, a libhal tamelu and tihrob min hayata. Botur muhtalifina's but tehilel and waminel moed libi may be shrabuha biata, but muhtalifa, uh behrabhu masalan il ad bit for gala, sits at Netflix uh uh filume, aw il adbilab, ashers at PlayStation, Awil Yani Dikulah Turobiam the Lokay any wokahina or horror walk of AI Tem mean wokasab.
SPEAKER_02Taban. How kidakedal wokasab, kidakal huru akid assesu, zai mahna ulna filmadal o sawy help like a filmado tawil mbisa del shokna um al advala lakotal haiya will hai bit admila ta had yet sava, it had yet diamond ultimate landina.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Win when tahadin nahna n shtagal anaf sina moka o shhos.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Lemma ehnab in kamble aloko uhbenibda aloko mal AI, Saitan ehna binha nehrob mina tahde mog ofa.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Atalot hadida t haddi nana le ness abafalo yani, ye let's say had biul an mandisha lo kotya anda has bahdo mafisha lokot, kenuta la dita kilei the hai sabalik in nakinta tilei alakot dort shifi hai sabalik in nakimanda k aye defa ali nakinta dawarala um neshayya titu tosil ma ehomut sora inuibalik aye n woman wal s loqa o la lokoma hadeni uh bor borra dai radi.
SPEAKER_02Bzdob wahilin ninta btifko di defada, uenta zayima l kosaz dibordu bitul, um bita m cholasbitawut aala nuwa a mustawa mwayan minil lihtemem, uptib ta'w tala in ninta il shokhsel intaptikkalem maida ma gut tulat, vi ralik tul wat, bitem kul ma shaklek, dimsh hegem uguda filhaya. Fakul mbabnitawutala da octor, kurma biba'zha binisbella n nahna dni aloko mahadha haiel and the shokhsel hai, msbia dari atdbina kul hagedi mustahi atdimina kulhaged.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, ya is mnel bihali mudo zeda binisbeli moreabiana di sura kedfid mei, bat khela site, uhalul mutoda yani baidigid dan wuna ghagid than wwayani wa, kutsema nunes pitkal malanes, minaul sen na dedi uhushufu nwa dam nul alokotilwa tia ni fada kenu awul aloka attifeya shahsi bihhoshifia, huandu tala tosha orba bat shasana, fayani, laf dafalan libi hadid, holmufudya toka eman aloka zadi, tokay uhel at deda mukaniamilut hadyat to sobat fifhayatu falakati nibat kid. Bas surafmehut nullaalam kullu aadin u dem shashetwa n hom shdemadi and shashet pas tani basura ubu ukra bi twasluma l-AI, majaj tosan mahadin, basakul ba basmishhasa bil uhdal and no bi twasluma l'AI. Sura uptat innu kulness munazilatame likein fenaf silwat mishmuta eliminil alam batalin ezelda wutay naftoda numa kulom sutinba. Kulom sinfala.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
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SPEAKER_02Bazopt.
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SPEAKER_00Fama se makuma fish aloa yani an andi shillit as hob. Wabin win atharabad to muhtalifa kulafina bilhibrod patatil haiao yan melathail tama mukun bad swe AIs the talum bad weba feba mukta ma et sohom AI unus sohom bani admin biani marovshim can di m fiqraquisanas di day fikretanya lib dainimanduha the hai fikrit innu umadem kalem f podcast ina and fikritin yanyi eat kun insane, weanyita ishaya mi ko yani eta ishiaat stakantwash. Watam hagetilbit khali hiyat n stakanthia inananmu filfodila, bananmuf ina um arfin nukun nafsena u nkun vanish insanietna ech. Watham hagetilbitnaish insanietna, nina banara fan hip an hasisinnu um Watam lagatilap tasa f mushkil fil A I, hey inina Penufkud El Kudra in ninan hipzap La in Nina uhdainab Zemonuflaw Panamin naf sina wan hebben nafsina, Bansam ml ka initani lud demida, shaf sami and m suml l Ai ludemida, bzobta Zaimanaizu, u mutahakin feita me orakhali a haganaiza umf nafnaf tall AI mushkaratanya, m shbi hibini, yani eda flagla psatata baba lasmatwa flusa shani kamilikalimni, wudif hadha fikra yani thunal hitani kholis whana bunfukarfi, ttobia tlalokadimufunfakkafye zaiani, uh se damj hibbini basakmen, leyademjutalibni baw, yani ana omri mahab a mu kasr nahetu wa an omri mahtaga dahai, wa na omri mahtaga gaiar wa dhhayar uh illafel itori lana aizu baturia lana ezhayani, um'ai f ana bafkidl forsaf inni atakawan ke insen. Um to an alfin demishti memin nes neskitira ra isian niza atakawan ka insen wa uh aishhayethakantuashaan haiza ba mobsuitfil ekher wul wala lakadik tbsutni mabday ni.
SPEAKER_02Bazab ta wa ta'wan n notal uula lenta ota no in no fi AIs mokini kalemobad da bada fala and yhasal, ufi actually um shirkit bumble, lhaya dating app bado yhtar bi shakarina alahegazaizi, and no kulla shoksi bib andu avatar o AI betehro, uh biakas shokhsi tu, w il AIs do bi tedunhom my kalemobad with goal application, ubahda my kalemabad swayas aetha mokanal o shosal ha'een, ibda khosh uh fonver.
SPEAKER_00Fadi fabadal ma'ana adoba al had ablu, nhoshumabad foko, bamel AI min nafsi.
SPEAKER_02Bzub.
SPEAKER_00Whadin am AI min nafsi. L AIs with Rafaalabadu lammel lock at mamashikwais no koshabanel abehnafil uh okay. Okay, okay Tabli ma kamelo homeholo AI Mabsuot Kulumabadu Okay.
SPEAKER_02L Guzip Tal Hobrutna al Hobashankidahobhotter Gidden and Nul Ashhos y Dao is Tardimu l companions duel, min sin is hoyer. Lilhomma Len Nahnaf Sin min Loal il Manawasha Rol Tamantosha Aw Ladvashin Okeda Binikti Nahana Talem uh Mohorot Muhema Gidan Eqta Maya, Redal Mohrot Lakla Taban Mohrot Ektmaya Zay Nachna Izze Nachna Nortabot Bur Oshos Ez Zay Nachna Nitarov Alanes Izze Nachnan Kawan Shoyatna Wutaban Izze Nachna Bandana Kudra Ala Lato. Il AI damage beutubundana hagan, Zayman Toldili, Bi Osar Ala Kudritna ala Lato, Mabnarov Shin Nehna Netalem Zay niddi Shokeludam. Lo Anabul Hagashek Haganafsi, we il AI Bishek Hegabordsu Ilalo Kotil Insane ifia hagetania mutual, andamel haget labod, bin se bod, ben senat badumabod, kulil hagedzi, mbi bandala force and nakana namelha. Fabiteli fi goz im nenwaptana, iliktimeri, beof la badan nachan istardim il hagedzi fasinas hoyer. Walobadan stardim ha fsindik bir, binifkud il kudrozi, binifkad il mahozzi, fabnibda innachna ninsa is zein hebalan, ninsa is ze bandina kobele lato, aumasehal ochorin, l'in il il eida mishbi kalamana nafsu, kiti ilbi kalamana nafea nahna bestin heb wa na tobit bi. But so malush haya malushaya malushkus. Famishbi kalaman nafukfeya lenna netalem is zainisma. Hm benalum is zane kalumbus.
SPEAKER_00Oh, low kallim kitir haseketu hailakosan kuhemchi animo application yzab.
SPEAKER_02O moken matrud the chale. Like in mafish and sen moken matrud the chale, a mokin tatagahlu, aw mokin tathlotfi, the hegatanip taf kitir awinhowa, il oshhosalando home mule nhoma eholo tu filness on homa yi zon ness, lemma vi star demu el chad pot di be itha widu in the dashi eydi. Fabi tidui marsu, il hega deal he fil woka bata na hega mudorogid dan o hega mishma abbulla, bita widu nohomma ibu muzi inl ochhorin.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well inuho hasis inamazi insen, anabazi computer mkram fila naizu, besalomish mudrekuhowa, inho il azada, biatahawa lila tato tori alho yani hobishawi hinafsu. Bizdo be inubizil insen et tenida u biatahawa le shaqsil mu'zida, fa hetimele yit or forsit in wehushfa lok katanyasahyaya a melatod maheli anyf.
SPEAKER_02Wutaban be normalize il il sulugda in theba ashi in nana oglot had nana muktana also no had, anamuktanan ho wasail insane, fanaboglot fiefataw nana boglot aubastamil kalemwayan mozi, woho kamen mokan yglot feya fabatawa dana attacobbel il eza. Hm wudamish hega bordo and mabulan, filmuktama, the nahdud mabina vimbod fabordo hegatanya inudural.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yani, khalini bordo uh fekremal of corebo of andha um can f falsafa fi uh fsafted deen is that fimushkelas mamuskalt shorul alam, okay uh fekret inu la robuna bihabina uhla alam fi core kamusharol. Wa had the rududel mashura, uh the ismu defea al heret lod. Nu uhana makanchais basines tib uh uhihla ailam mafushorholis, but se kanhehla ailam in nesmandashvi huret arod. Inestil any mukant uhatamil basil mfrutamilatamilhirbasmosh tam shur. Lekin dakan makanch ailam, asan alamashin fi, naizin ailam, finis, buthtor ilchhirb irodita. Fakan lezm ybal ailam the fi imkeni it, haduthish shur, ashen, la mahaddi beam il khir, ybalhirda lahukima. Okay, del fikra in no rodada libialka takeub igebi min nes, or enu mahadish, yonuls, mahizhush alakhabal gosp, arfam hajzy yanana anam shaiza gauswahda, matodosh t uli la anaiza gauzwahda, itni ma inuya ken munkin to lila, itiorha, hurrieta guz im nilibiarofni, inana mahbub, in anamhhubfeya wa hasisfag eka inu l'hogalfalsafedi kulab tonhor la inun insen a meli khthor innubadal maithabim insen teni, ubadalmin innuhata itman and withabbimin inseni, wih hot enaf suf mok fiad yet fanma insen teni, uhurl rodo, ana hamel insend may dosh, uhmel shabihibil insen, me durshi uli la whodal hoda hoda kfea binisbeli. Uheninab nirdo behaila minil umye basana yani il ko il il tagewbil igebi rohib mal shari keduma la cot uh, mehawi had insane kill makbire and you besin no mentality sana can royana nul fikred uh yani machai kita. Kishovan Izin Izin Yani Neskita Isa Wimkinda e wifnyza alem andes a libroko deep sim kin had a four that as what me got uh musta but like a hazes hen in this lock of the other enough so no mahabu well fikred Homafines be urun Homa Mahbubeen Fallon, Humabi Bushaifin in the Da Bihasis Hum in Homa Mahbubeen Baz da bin Urun Noa Shoxeda Byamel Hegasma Samiya self deception. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Like in hoalism yuk nanafsu in the da hobbahaya shen you couldn't ro the blah locozi Basikin habit at Dumlina uh in na in forsa natral el Wahda, he command but Adam Lina Forsa Nachna um Natral Bala Hof and the Kul Shoks Ayaloco, and hofdanhomum can yiffka the shoxal hobby. With them an octor ill machaiof il m'goodanesir. Sama Msawe fear of abandonment uh hofmanl okay Oh il hofmen and shochs day so haiga oun no soch dietor shokeni oebadan o y drawyer cole machaiofzi bit it lirita me mankunfala amena gidan nafsayin then hea bitidina security to dinner assessbil amen alakota tenia m bit ademhol nabad Ma Lokotip Tinti Yani Lana Fahmo Pitasal Mashekel fishamasala Shirkham could fallis.
SPEAKER_00Um can fadman al Wahdan Wahad Biaqwanu L AI Li Hadud Muayna fil data live than Mottofiz behalf about what mwayan be terri atemel reset masan fulfillment can add them shuayed mudon can be as the canet but tar fucked lintip techia any can be ashamelit the chat actually amal update mocharon uh will update the ghaier feel torial ill ill chat be rot de biha alness can sabbe meshek il kibira linesk til no hasun la lokal catmandom word shawbil amen l'hibda muntaban shahol muzayev shorbil amen mishai basfalan il ass bilfok we could naf ala nafsa mustawa il assess bilfokta shokhsa beefkut insen hai.
SPEAKER_02Yani can fee research be ul in no uh be is mada hosnishala tahir il AI uh bikornu bada hosno ala folk and sen haiev hayetu, waken nafta el nafta mustawaal grief, nafta mustawa l'sessbilfokie, bo wa el masharl ma gudando, mashaar ku la hai dan masshar hai leh, hata lao ehnar feedmung goen and the shit m shai, fi goes eminena bib a mutaallock bil bil shade bi away.
SPEAKER_00Can fe uh fifel sufismo Robert Nozik uh Zaytagre Nikada uh the experience machine uh gezil hibra. We thail lo fiqf I think I can uh we allame agam de ktashafu gez to plug into some and fleekhir bad mass and some gain fire ticks olympiat nifsak ticket noble nifti and show fentanifsake why yelabianifil karob tat mochakwa hasnenta u wentam shhatabeker inta kelthege, netha keltfighez, nitha keltfegez, ubita ishil hibrotikula, w bit hes el mashar, u mashar hayye, il nakenta date ficul il hagedi wobisel, ten youfest Sabinet Yani Bisal, El Mofrud ne Baaizin naman Haikedola. Uho ro you inu ilinsen la ubifokrsah hai badamar shaisket. Wuho wobihawli ulunu dihogadid il falsafit il hay iltaphas anisyada ulmutafokot. Hobiulinu anifyagatani a gir inabsuit anaiza faho masan biulenu anamshba saizab uh a hesile says betani ksippulympiat, anaize bafalan, exceptulympiat, uba den abhesle, says, besalonum acceptushfalan, and if yaga bonos, an ayes kemani beleta sier filam in loborro, anaize beni asivalem abaltag, wana eyes kamen, akun nuwa insen wwyan lenu llow hadibit foragalaya wana filgehazda anam ana name mitla ahal ordu kula biasalda keni bahlam helmet uil awi. Fanam absud gidden fil helmet to wil awi da bes mshag haiya, hasla fieti wa na isin naishhaye. Wasasin nulhovi uru da. Yaiteni uhwa tmoho katap can mutkeyelinu, ahlabinsu hebt er kalamdazasah, ma ka mishan khtor nib uh twasal bil ghezda, Baselwa de henuneski of Tamiludena, Bitamilsa mishnafsalagabs of septor khibro, mashar haeya, u mashar kawe, lekinha mishbetatafma el woka begat he Zemkurim ulhu rubmin, el woka, uhul mashaar di betuabran, mutatherabi, uhateftoriam gudafil haiyaf, hyan woman and well, experience machine, la namtor, nutwasalbiha, with any mutafin, bahagazakad.
SPEAKER_02Bazubhawadal Atako the nahna Mun doshan anker in Kulina Ay Shin fenua mwayan min elokot elevi in samia parasocial o shibhta maya. Soweil social media, sawe minhhilel il hagatalhamfaragalia del waati, sawait min khilel video games, forwa al adamzi hega muhhtalifa, haya bordu hana mishbaid autokut mozam na mj.
SPEAKER_00Yani gat khatwa kato ay. Yanyi shminwala haga, mishminwa to Robert nozik lefag adlatibafi, alakot eybashadna khatwat bitivedna sin napsinal, hadma delatiba Idim mazemhabnu rehna keda kedana andi alakot kitira u shagala textinglo, fadloati basinta shiltilbani adamilikan woroho hadit computer ma ba shilfer roh.
SPEAKER_02Who l alakotzi bordub hasisna nehna dina ta' talao, nafin homestafirhay ba sahna bin kalam masho seda, okay in the ho bu dina bis fala maina kin nahna falalam osaralib n osaralhayetu. Fada al ad mowa shi muzaya fanafinda filof za dib nibhasin nahna nina taqsir fila ilam. Uda hsis muhem atokuneskitir awim muftoko do. Len l'alam bigbod wahnab in hestin nahna ozhur. Babn aisin hesin nahna handina fale taqsir alam aw alalam lehna feebin osalan nessilhawalin. Bas sehnab ninssa in l eyaboru be osaralina. How waka men bi osal ala of korna mala orotno.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Zaim mahnabin kawinu, hwa ka men bika winna.
SPEAKER_00Fa laloko taqsil be kun muta bedal umishbuduri gebi andl tati l hosalalina.
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SPEAKER_02Then how diamam bitif maino diaman bi shaga orono. Fabiteliho beza would ay or mutator for um mushwokaiandina be be a kidha octor, be azizha octor go go an aftena, fab shokhsiotna bit um bitiz but octor. Lenna's been wegait had yet flay and khil alochodzi, fabiteli shoksiotna m bit ball wars I meantul.
SPEAKER_00Isa C Bana inti odio at away bit uh reflections of core hasanu and the kibira liza la had be focur from mod wadaway. Bashagao nohoa ysa nafsuli, uh fienas, hai in fahayatu munken uh durda, ye or men home with nafsuwa tanoa lacha the koro wise the huda to grobozi, ba fokoru noin sesh in the uh unhoa the mammuul men shirka, no mammu la shen and ortobit be dal had of menu and hoa eza wo delto both be, faba for corbasana tala sh be besyda ilanho fala monke nameshif I why is yani de fala da inu elhael tosta and toash bigad so uh via tadiat will tadia de mishumishbit alilmin uh the hyatak tostah and toash, ala ademaya inkenan, a bit deekumsehal and akinta kun in zanutkunu shosel umedr yesh no al hai di octor um shad uh thank you for uh uh correctir who uh um I think it was very interesting. Thank you, Joven Kumfhalatanium in podcast there.