The Construction Veteran Podcast
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The Construction Veteran Podcast
When Rest Feels Unsafe: Choosing Depth Over Speed
What if rest didn’t feel like failure? We open the year with a quiet, unhurried conversation about choosing depth over speed, especially for veterans and builders who were trained to move toward noise, deadlines, and pressure. When usefulness becomes identity, stillness can feel unsafe—so we name that tension and learn how to carry strength without losing our humanity.
I share why structure comforts until it outlives its season, how exhaustion can hide beneath applause, and the moment when “pushing through” stops being leadership and becomes avoidance. We sit with the grief almost no one names: the loss of brotherhood when you leave a unit or a crew. You don’t miss the chaos; you miss being known. We talk about letting that grief soften rather than harden you, honoring what was without demanding it stay the same, and rebuilding by reordering—not erasing—your past.
Faith has a place here too. Early faith often trades in outcomes, but maturity asks for trust when control won’t cooperate. Transition can’t be brute‑forced; it has to be walked, patiently and honestly. Along the way, we revisit what legacy actually is: not a speech or a ceremony, but your daily posture—how you show up tired, how you repair mistakes, how you treat the people in your care, and whether you can rest without apology. Real leadership creates space, protects margins, invites candor, and teaches calm through self‑regulation, not performance. And we face the hidden invoice for unchecked hustle: when we don’t choose where the cost lands, family pays it by default.
If you’ve been praised for endurance so long that stopping feels dangerous, this is your permission to slow down. Start smaller than you think—five quiet minutes, one clear boundary, a single honest no. Subscribe, share this with a teammate who’s carrying too much, and leave a review with one small change you’ll commit to this week. Your life should have room for you inside it.
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How do you rest without feeling bad? Legacy is quite legacy. Hey everybody, before I welcome you and explain why this episode exists, before I say anything about construction or veterans or leadership or work, I want to acknowledge something quietly. Most of the people listening to this don't know how to be still anymore. It's not because they're restless or undisciplined, and it's not because they lack focus, but it's because stillness feels unsafe. Hear me again. Stillness feels unsafe. When you've built a life around being useful, when you've been trained to respond instead of reflect, when people rely on you to move, decide, fix, solve things, stopping doesn't feel like rest. It feels like some sort of abandonment. And veterans don't slow down easily. Construction professionals don't slow down easily. We're trained to move toward the problems, toward the noise, toward pressure. And when you live like that long enough, peace feels foreign. This is the first episode of 2026. And instead of starting this year by accelerating, I want to start it by arriving. And I don't mean arriving at goals. I'm not trying to arrive at resolutions that are going to fail in a month or two. It's arriving in yourself. I want to tell you something I didn't understand for a long time. And that's movement feels productive. And stillness, it feels uh suspicious. Your movement, it earns approval, and your stillness raises questions. And for people who've lived their lives being needed, questions feel dangerous.
SPEAKER_01:Because questions threaten your identity.
SPEAKER_02:If you are always moving, you never have to ask who you are when you stop. And if you're always needed, you never have to face who you are when nobody's calling. That realization didn't hit me all at once. It crept in very quietly. It showed up as exhaustion that didn't go away after I tried to rest. As irritability, I couldn't un I couldn't explain. As a strange sense that even when things were good per se, something was off. I couldn't quite place it, but something was just off. So for most of my adult life, I lived inside uh structure, the military. That the military structure, construction is structure, being in a position of leadership is structure. And structure tells you when to show up, sometimes what to wear, uh, where to be, how to measure your success, what does winning look like? And honestly, structure is comforting until it's not. Structure becomes dangerous when it outlives the season it was meant for, and nobody tells you how to recognize that moment, especially not veterans, especially not builders. Because what is rewarded is endurance. Loyalty is praised, staying is honored. Leaving, even when it's necessary, feels like some sort of betrayal. I didn't stop and reflect because I wanted to. I stopped because something in me finally refused to keep sprinting in the wrong direction. So there's one question veterans hate asking more than almost any other. Am I still serving the mission or am I just repeating it? That question, it doesn't accuse, it just clarifies. But clarity is terrifying when your identity is built on endurance. Because if you've been praised your whole life for pushing through, somehow stopping feels like failure. But sometimes stopping is obedience to reality. So here's something nobody prepares you for. When you build your identity on being necessary, you're eventually going to fear irrelevance more than the burnout. Think about that. When usefulness becomes your identity, the rest feels like disappearance. So we we keep moving, we stay busy, we try to stay needed and relevant and we stay important until we don't recognize ourselves anymore. This podcast exists because too many people reach that point alone. So today and this whole year, I'm not rushing. It's not because I'm tired. God knows I am. I got three kids. Cut me some slack. It's not because I've given up, but because I finally understand something. It's that depth, true depth, it can't be rushed. Your healing can't be optimized. Your presence can't be scheduled. This episode is a long solo episode on purpose because the people who need it most have never been given permission to slow down. You have permission. Slow down. If this episode feels uncomfortable so far, that's okay. Discomfort is often the first sign that something true is being touched. This is not a place to perform or impress. This is a place to arrive. There is a moment most people don't notice when it happens. It's the moment when work quietly becomes your worth. Not because you decided it would, but because you wanted it to. Because the world and society rewarded you for it. You did your job well and people noticed. You showed up early and people relied on you. You stayed late and people thanked you. But slowly, subtly, your value stopped being who you are. It started being, well, how much can they carry? Veterans are especially vulnerable to this because in the military, your value is visible. It's your rank, your role, your responsibilities. And construction reinforces the same pattern. The bigger the project, the bigger crew, the bigger problems you're able to solve, the more important you feel. And importance feels a lot like purpose until it doesn't. Responsibility, it feels good. It's a drug.
SPEAKER_01:It makes you feel needed, respected, and trusted. But it distracts you from harder questions.
SPEAKER_02:Questions you have to ask yourself. Who am I when I'm not needed? What do I do when no one is calling? What part of me exists outside of the service, military, or building? So what do we do? We take on more, more projects, more hours, more problems until we're carrying things that were never ours to carry, and then we call it leadership. But leadership that costs you your humanity is not leadership. It's sacrifice without wisdom. There is a grief that veterans and builders rarely name. And that's the grief of lost brotherhood. Not death or tragedy, just loss. Loss of shared purpose, loss of a shared struggle, and people who knew you without explanation. When you leave the military, people say, Thank you for your service. What they don't say is, I'm sorry you lost your team. When you leave a job site, people say, well, on to the next. What they don't say is, I know that crew matter to you. That's been the most rewarding part of when I was in the construction industry is running into somebody that I did a project with in years past and finding out how they grew. Whether it's their family, their professional life, them as an individual.
SPEAKER_01:We're terrible at grieving things that didn't end badly. But a loss doesn't require a catastrophe. It just requires meaning.
SPEAKER_02:And I want to talk about why we miss it, even when it we don't want it back, right? There's a lot of people that, man, I wish I was overseas again. I wish I was downrange. Man, I wish I was on that hard project with those guys. I'd love to work alongside of. It's something we struggle to explain. You don't, it's not like you miss the stress or exhaustion or even the pressure. You miss the people. You miss being known without having to explain yourself or the inside jokes that only made sense to your team. You miss solving the problems shoulder to shoulder. You miss being part of something that didn't require some sort of a performance. That's not weakness, that's humanity.
SPEAKER_01:That's your humanity.
SPEAKER_02:So we got to process that grief somehow because your unprocessed grief becomes hardness. And here's what happens when grief goes unprocessed: it doesn't disappear, it just hardens. It shows up as irritability, uh, distance, cynicism, impatience. And we just tell ourselves, well, that's just how it is. That's just leadership, or that's how I am. But a lot of times it's grief with nowhere to go. And that grief doesn't make you weak. Unacknowledged grief makes you brittle. So we gotta lift each other up. And here's the hard truth: brotherhood doesn't disappear, it just evolves. But evolution requires some sort of a release. You can honor what was without demanding it remain unchanged. You don't betray your past by growing. The way you betray it is by refusing to learn from it. So this podcast exists to help people grieve honestly so they don't calcify emotionally.
SPEAKER_01:And this is the part most people skip.
SPEAKER_02:Because grief slows you down, but it also softens you if you let it. We don't build well. We don't do well in life when we're hardened. We build well when we're human. Another big piece of this year I want you to focus on is your faith. And I want to talk about when faith stops being a tool. There comes a point when faith stops being useful. And it's not because it disappears, it's because it stops working the way you want it to. Early in your life, faith is it's often uh transactional, I'll say. You pray for outcomes and you follow rules for results, you obey for protection. But being mature in your faith is different. It doesn't promise certainty, it doesn't remove discomfort, it asks for trust. And trust is uncomfortable for people who built their lives on control. So transition is another thing we talk about, and I want to loop that in with faith. The transition is not just practical, it's spiritual. Because transition forces you to confront your limits and your dependence and your uncertainty, and those are things that people hate admitting, especially builders. You can't brute force your way through transition. You got to walk it. And walking requires patience. And so that's why so many people rush transitions. They're they're trying to outrun their vulnerability. But your meaning is not the same as being busy. We confuse meaning with motion. If we're busy, we feel relevant. If we slow down, we feel exposed. But meaning isn't loud, it's steady. Your meaning shows up in how you treat people when nobody's watching. How do you talk when you're tired? How do you listen when you'd rather talk? Meaning doesn't demand attention, it earns it over time. You gotta be patient. So rebuilding things, you know, through the transition or a life change, it doesn't mean starting over. It means reordering things. You keep what still serves you, but you release what no longer fits. I mean, you don't need to erase your past in order to honor your future. You just you gotta stop living in yesterday's expectations. For those of you with kids, we do this with our daughters.
SPEAKER_01:If they had a bad day, tomorrow's a new day. We gotta let it go. You don't have to end the day bad just because of one bad happenstance.
SPEAKER_02:Stop living in yesterday's expectations. Rebuilding with integrity that requires courage. Because it it disappoints people who benefited from your overextension. But that disappointment is not your failure. People talk about legacy a lot. Legacy is not some big speech, it's not a retirement moment.
SPEAKER_01:It's your daily posture. Your legacy is how do you show up when you're tired?
SPEAKER_02:Do you admit your mistakes? How do you treat the people in your charge?
SPEAKER_01:And how do you rest without an apology? How do you rest without feeling bad about it?
SPEAKER_02:Your legacy is built quietly, and quietly is where this podcast is going to live moving forward. So here's my commitment. And it's not just this year, but it's for this season. We're gonna choose depth over speed. I know I talk fast. You can tell I'm intentionally trying to slow down. We're gonna choose honesty over an image and choosing presence over a performance. The podcast isn't gonna shout, it'll talk with you because nobody builds a life worth living alone. So if you've stayed with me through this entire thing, thank you. That tells me something about you. It's that you're not afraid of depth. This is the Construction Veteran Podcast. It's where veterans build their next mission not by force, but by faithfulness. So back to the leadership point. Most of us earn leadership in environments where hesitation was punished. The military teaches leadership under pressure. Construction teaches leadership under deadline. Now, both of those things reward decisiveness and toughness and endurance and grit. And I want to be clear, those traits do matter. But what works in crisis can quietly break people in day-to-day life. We're taught to absorb stress and shield others from the pressure. Don't show any doubt. Keep moving forward. But when that model works, it works really well just until it doesn't. And there's a moment in leadership where strength becomes, it stops becoming functional. It starts becoming performative. Your strength just becomes performative. You're not being strong to serve the mission anymore. You're being strong to preserve the image. You don't admit uncertainty. It's not because you don't have it. It's because people just expect you not to. They don't want to hear that from the leader, right? Or you choose not to rest. And it's definitely not because you don't need it. It's because you don't want to be seen as replaceable. And that is when leadership becomes lonely. Because nobody knows where you end and the role begins. And the job site reveals things, it reveals how people handle pressure and how they communicate and how they react when the plan falls apart. Name the last time you were on a job site where everything went exactly to plan.
SPEAKER_01:Think about it.
SPEAKER_02:The job site also reveals it mirrors leadership back to you, though. If your crew is tense and people are guarded or nobody speaks up, that's not a crew issue. That's a leadership signal. People don't hide in healthy environments, they protect themselves in unsafe ones. So let's talk about just pushing through. There's a phrase that sounds noble, but bes but it destroys people quietly. Just push through. Pushing through, yeah, it gets projects done. It gets deadlines met, praise from clients and colleagues. But when that becomes your default, it erodes discernment. You stop asking questions like, is this really sustainable? Is it necessary? Can I survive? Is this human? Pushing through, that's not leadership. When pushing through ignores limits, that's not leadership. It's avoidance dressed up as toughness. Leadership, it's not revealed in emergencies. It's revealed on ordinary days when nothing is on fire, when no one is watching closely. Real leadership looks like setting realistic timelines, protecting the margins, noticing who's quiet, asking questions you don't already know the answer to, and creating that space for honesty. Leadership creates space. People, you know how they follow, they don't follow authority. They follow clarity. People want to follow leaders who don't panic or disappear emotionally, pretend everything is fine when it isn't, don't posture. People follow calm. And that calmness doesn't come from control, it comes from self-regulation. So here's something leaders never hear. I want you to hear this. Your humanity is not a liability. It's the reason people trust you. Admitting those limits doesn't weaken authority, it grounds it. If you don't allow yourself to be human, you force everyone beneath you to perform.
SPEAKER_01:And performance, that performance is exhausting. Leadership that burns people out is not leadership, it's extraction.
SPEAKER_02:We will always choose leadership that sustains people and does not consume them. So I want to take a quick turn and just kind of talk about the cost of what this burnout and all that does. There is a cost to every life we build. And if we don't choose where that cost is paid, it defaults to the people closest to us. Your family often pays for the leadership that you don't regulate. The long hours, the emotional absence, your short patience, your delayed presence. And it's not because we don't care, but because we believe providing is the same as being present. There comes a moment when the sentence, I'm doing this for my family, really needs to be examined. Because sometimes without realizing it, I'm doing this for them turns into I don't know how to stop. Love without boundaries becomes justification. And justification can quietly damage relationships. And most lives don't fall apart because of this one decision. They erode because of daily habits. Again, how do you speak when you're tired? How do you respond when you're interrupted? I know I'm at fault for this all the time. How do you rest? How do you not rest? Your legacy is built in those moments. It's not the speeches or the promotions or the achievements, your rank, your title, even your paycheck. Daily posture. That's what builds your long-term impact. And it's boring. Let's be honest. There's nothing flashy about a sustainable life being repetitive, it's unimpressive, and often it's it's unseen. You see the highlight reels on social media. That's not their daily life. But boring faithfulness builds things that last. That consistent presence, the predictable kindness, the honest communication?
SPEAKER_01:These things might not be trendy, but they do endure.
SPEAKER_02:So here's the question beneath everything we've talked about so far. Does the life you're building have room for you inside of it? For you. Not your role or your reputation, not the responsibility, but for you. If your life requires you to disappear to function, that's not a life. It's a machine.
SPEAKER_01:Transformation, it rarely feels dramatic. It feels repetitive. Sometimes boring. It feels like saying no more often.
SPEAKER_02:Leaving earlier, getting rest without feeling guilty, letting go of being needed. Slow change is the only change that lasts. So if you're listening to this and thinking, this all sounds good, but I don't know how to change. Like, awesome dude. I don't know what to do. Smart or start smaller than you think you should. I'll say that. Your change doesn't begin with courage, it begins with honesty. And honesty is it's already strength. So this is where we land. Not with answers or formulas, but with orientation, realigning yourself. The podcast exists to orient people back to themselves, not to push them forward blindly. This is the Construction Veteran Podcast. This is where veterans build their next mission with intention, humility, and patience. I'll see you next week.
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