Intuitive Insights: Harnessing the Power of Intuition + Creativity in Everyday Life

Intuition: Your Guide Home

• Meghan McDonough • Season 3 • Episode 5

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What happens when external success leaves you feeling empty? In this episode of Intuitive Insights, Mye Hendrick shares her journey from executive leadership in Fortune 500 companies to soulful mentorship—and the profound moment she realized, "I am the brick wall." 

In this illuminating episode of Intuitive Insights, host Meghan McDonough of Magnetize Your Light welcomes Mylene "Mye" P. Hendrick—a heart-centered mentor, trusted advisor, transpersonal coach, and healer. Mye's journey, from leading Fortune 500 companies in strategy, design, and UX to embracing a life of soulful transformation, offers a powerful testament to the guiding force of intuition.

When she realized, "I am the brick wall," Mye discovered that true fulfillment requires looking inward. Drawing on a rich blend of insights from neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, and spirituality—accompanied by her diverse cultural upbringing—she shows how transitions and challenges can become doorways to self-discovery. Her approach helps you choose your own adventure, amplify your inner knowing, and craft a life that truly nourishes your soul. By reframing obstacles as opportunities for growth, Mye invites you to deepen your relationship with yourself—and, in turn, with life.

We explore: 
✨ The quiet, loving, and neutral voice of intuition –  finding belonging wherever we are.
✨ Balancing deep care with non-attachment – Navigating leadership, personal relationships, and life transitions without losing yourself in outcomes.
✨ Quan Yin’s message on mastering self-compassion: Embracing unconditional love and self-acceptance as the foundation for extending love and compassion to others.
✨ Reconnecting in a tech-saturated world – Practical insights for silencing external noise and tuning in to your inner voice.

About Mylene “Mye” Hendrick
A former executive leader at Fortune 500 companies—including Target, TJX Companies, and Fidelity—Mye now merges her extensive professional background with her passion for guiding people through life’s disruptions. As a transmuter of energy, she empowers individuals to embrace change, cultivate resilience, and rewrite their life (aka love) stories with purpose—ultimately rediscovering their Joy of BeingSM.
Growing up as a Third Culture Kid (TCK), Mye seamlessly bridges diverse worlds and perspectives. Her approach, informed by diverse disciplines and extensive personal experience, invites clients into a journey of self-awareness and soulful alignment. She shows how integrating simple daily practices of curiosity, gratitude, joy, and love can guide us home to ourselves—if we choose to embrace them. Her loving reminder: simple isn't necessarily easy, though it becomes easier with practice.

Join Meghan and Mye for a heartfelt conversation and exploration of intuition, compassion, and the courage it takes to follow your inner knowing and a heart-led compass. Whether you’re seeking clarity in your career, relationships, or personal growth, Mye’s story and insights will inspire you to lean into your own innate wisdom.
Experience an episode that invites you to pause, tune into your heart's quiet wisdom, and confidently step onto your unique path with renewed self-compassion and self-trust.

Connect with Mye
To learn more about Mye’s work and continue the conversation, she invites you to reach out to her on any of these channels:
•Let’s Chat! (https://calendar.app.google/58iDqLUGoVZTTNoS7)
•Email (mye@mylenehendrick.com) 
•LinkedIn (http://linkedin.com/in/mylenehendrick) 
•IG (https://www.instagram.com/myemye818/)

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Intuitive Insights. I am your host, megan McDonough, and today I have the honor of having my Mylene. Mai Hendrick is a seasoned executive and soulful mentor who transforms leadership into a journey of self-discovery and empowerment. After spearheading strategy design and user experience at Fortune 500 companies like target is that tj max, tjx, tj max, same girl, okay, tj max companies and fidelity, my bank, my shifted from corporate realm to guide others through life's disruptions. Blending her insights from neuroscience, philosophy, psychology and spirituality, she inspires individuals to embrace change, build resilience and craft a life of joy and purpose. Welcome, mai.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much, Megan. Oh my gosh, thank you so much. I am super thrilled to be here. Thank you for the invite.

Speaker 1:

I'm so grateful I have to say how we met. Yes, so last summer I was doing a play in the berkshires which I'd never been to before. Um, a friend of mine who I did a play with years ago, was running this theater company and um had asked me to audition. I did and it was oh god, it was such a gift. And I met my uh uh, she's nice, right? Yes, she was in the show with me, hero, fabulous, talented, gorgeous young actress. And um, we uh my came to the show and we met and um, I believe I just fell in love because you're awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, there were so many synchronicities so, and we, just we had such a great time, and so I wanted to. Since we do something somewhat similar, or at least in the same vein, um, I wanted to explore one. Um is your definition of intuition? What is that? A receipt?

Speaker 2:

well, I you know what I kept. I kept the receipt that we had stop it because there were, do you see, all these like things that I circled, that you actually pointed out?

Speaker 1:

right, I've totally forgot about that, because there was a.

Speaker 2:

It was chock full of angel numbers yeah, no, there was uh, four, four, four, eight, one eight, which is my favorite number, yeah you should move to the valley yeah, you know.

Speaker 1:

so just fyi, I, I have kept it, okay that just made my heart like that's really, I've kept it. I've kept it, it was it was. That was such a synchron that place itself. What's the name of that place?

Speaker 2:

I know, I know what it looks like.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, dreamaway Lodge, it was the first time I went there with the group. Yes, yes, dreamaway Lodge, it was the first time I went there with the group. I had the most synchronicity night. My son, who goes to school here in Chicago, his teacher, who is from Philly, was in the Berkshires at that place the same day we were, and it was just like, and then there was just so many other synchronicities happening that day and then we went again, tons again. So that place is absolutely magical.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I still remember, like what was it? I was wearing a crane, a crane blouse.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I was wearing a crane and I was like it was my pajamas but I pretended like it was real cream. Um, and I was like it was my pajamas but I pretended like it was real.

Speaker 2:

It was like I wasn't even supposed to go out with y'all because I was I was like I went, I went to watch hero. Obviously I'm like what? Yeah, it was away and I was like I'm gonna head back and you guys like no, come join us. It was so fun, it it was a blast, it was a blast.

Speaker 1:

And here we are, and here we are, okay. So I have a couple of questions that will launch this, and then we're just going to use our intuition and go where we go. I don't know why I've been playing with my hair thingy right now, just in case you're wondering what that is, okay. So the first question I have not a lot, I have not a lot. Well, I will have a lot, but like standard, yeah, is when you hear the word intuition.

Speaker 2:

What does it mean to you? Oh, my goodness. Uh, intuition to me, or how I define it, is that. It's that voice that sometimes can be so silent, but it's the voice for me that is from my heart and my soul. It's the one that pulls me and guides me to say hey, here's your North Star, here's your true North. Sometimes I can be so drowned out by everything else in this world. Other voices can appear to sound like intuition, but intuition is always loving, always kind, most often neutral actually yeah, I say it's detached of emotion.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's just like you know. It kind of asks you the questions that help, or at least help me step back to say huh, from what version of myself am I actually making this decision from or this choice from? So intuition is my goodness. I think for me it's really part of what has been my journey of returning back home, to me, to my heart and my desire and want of following a hard-led life Simple, not easy, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I agree to all of that. I feel the exact exact same way. Yeah, how do you, how do you incorporate you kind of spoke to it a little bit, you know in your process with like or speaking to what? It is, but how specifically do you work with it in your life?

Speaker 2:

Oh my goodness, Lately, actually, it's really been part of my practice of redefining insanity. So what is it?

Speaker 1:

Redefining insanity.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right. So what is it?

Speaker 1:

Redefining insanity. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

It's really my practice of of uh, you know, the definition of insanity, or Einstein's definition of insanity has been popping up for me for the past. I would say at least six months, yeah. And so for me, I call that my intuition. It's like touching me to say, hey, if you've been doing this this way for God knows how long, how resourceful, how might I choose to experiment differently? So lately I've been choosing to work with my intuition to say, all right, what can I do differently? And also being really comfortable with saying I don't know. I used to always have to know. Again, for me that was kind of like my upbringing and training and the ways that my body kept me safe. I just happened to know. And so lately I use my intuition to be like all right, logically it might not make sense. How does it feel to me? How does it feel? And that's how I, I guess, let's say, partner with intuition.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely yeah. I have a theory of thought and an idea that we have our physical senses right, keep the body safe and help the body navigate, but then we have our intuitive senses, which I call all the feels, and that would be like all the Claire's. It's like feel, see, feel, hear, feel, know.

Speaker 2:

If you feel, yeah, yeah, but those are the ways that you navigate, yeah and for me, uh, you know, speaking starting to tap, uh, dip the toe into my journey for the longest time, I'd like to say that I had master's degrees in hiding feelings or not wanting to deal with feelings, especially that were quote-unquote negative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's been over just the past few years that I've really been practicing it's my favorite word, experimenting is another favorite word Just truly being with the feelings and noticing. All right, here's a feeling that I'm experiencing. What's the story? I'm making it mean, what else can I make it mean? What else can I make it mean? And when I change the story, then what do I feel?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, know, it's funny. You just said that and it reminded me. This is just out of the blue. I have something else I wanted to ask you, but I'm part of this artist group where it's got kind of like an artist gym, yeah, where we, uh, basically it's a beautiful, encouraging, safe space where we can all go and experiment freely. You know, take risks in this safe space to grow right. And someone brought in and I'm going to screw up the name of it Maybe you know it, it's a Japanese style of dance performance called Bokutan, bokuto, bokuto. I'm screwing it up.

Speaker 1:

I will figure out what it is, yeah, um, and put it in the show notes, but I have never seen it or heard it before. And she brought it to um. She brought this piece and it's like an emotional piece and she explained it. Like her body became clear, a clear vessel to pull that whatever emotion that she was experimenting through it.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Physically, wow, and she had a red scarf that she was working with and she was dressed in black and it was very interesting. Movements and kind of like bird-like, like pterodactyl-like qualities. Movements and kind of like bird-like, like pterodactyl-like qualities and stuff. And then it evolved into this beautiful like I started to find like a, you know, a journey that she was going on, like a journey of life or a journey of grief or whatever, right, but what she asked and in this space it's very empowering to the fact that we say what do you need as an artist in this part of your process?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So what she had asked was I just want to know what it makes you feel and what it makes you think. That's it. So when I was watching the beginning of it, we had the scarf in her mouth and it was coming out and she was like gagging on it and doing some of this stuff, and all I could see was like and I and I this is not meant to be political, but all I could see was Trump, red tie a gargoyle, was like breaking out of his back and trying to come out. And that was just the beginning. So I was like but then I kept and I was like no, I was like, but then I kept and I was like no, it's not it, that's not it. Stop thinking that, stop thinking that I was able to like, let it go, but point is my mind. And then we had a discussion of this. My mind was trying to make something out of it. Well, that's the job time, relaxing into it and just experiencing the being it's this job right.

Speaker 2:

So so you know, I like to say I love the mind fascinating, fascinating. So so I love that that you're. You're speaking about this because, yeah, the I mean, one of the jobs of the mind is to fill in the gaps. Yeah, when we are also experiencing some whether it's a show, a poetry, whatever it is but we feel something visceral feeling, yeah, the mind might code it as something unsafe. It then has to go to emergency mode. Yes, oh my gosh, when was when did this happen last? And what, what? What happened last time? And how did we survive last time? And blah, blah, blah. So it tries to fill in the gaps yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's what it did until I was kind of like I can stop, I can chill up, because then I was having all these conversations like oh my god, you know you're the only one here who's thinking that's a trump oil and you know this is art, and you're just like you're adding out hardcore. And then I was like, all right, just chill, just chill. And then then I was able to experience it. I'm like, well, this is like a beautiful journey of grief and an exploration of grief, what it actually was when she explained it to us.

Speaker 2:

Wow um, which I think has a profound I mean there, that's, that's something profound that you experience and that's actually, I mean one might say we are in the process of grieving.

Speaker 1:

Always Like. I mean you can get like real meta and be like we're grieving the fact that our spirits are contained in a frame with a mind that has to compute every single emotion that you know our soul and spirit. That's how, that's their senses, that's their navigation system.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, Speaking of navigation systems, Segway, you have a lot of corporate experience. You have a lot of like, yes, Working with that brain. You know experience like numbers and whatever. And obviously I haven't whatever, I'm pretty sure is not the technical term for it. But so what If you, if you feel you know open to speaking to it. What was the shift? How did the shift come about? And then, how did you follow your thread to get there?

Speaker 2:

The, the, the shift of realizing that, hey, this is not the place for peace. The shift was um, my goodness. I remember so vividly. I remember driving home from work and I screamed and hit the steering wheel and that shocked me Like I knew I was the one doing the action.

Speaker 1:

but the fact that I actually Like you were yelling at yourself, I was, was I?

Speaker 2:

was just so frustrated and so angry that the only outlet that I felt safe to do it and was in my car I was driving home. But even that act sort of I I actually. I remember catching myself and thinking, whoa, I don't do this, yeah, I don't express my anger this way, blah, blah, blah. But that, I would say, was the moment where I realized, oh, the brick wall is not hitting my head, I'm the brick wall is not hitting my head, I'm the brick wall. And like I didn't know the definition of insanity back then, right. But eventually I was like, oh, something has to change.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because, like you know, I think for for a long time, even before that that particular experience, I had continued to ask like I've done everything, I've checked all the boxes I was supposed to check. I did this, I did this, I did this, I did this, I did this. Why do I feel unsuccessful when externally successful On paper? You're successful. On paper, you're successful. But for me I was like so why do I feel empty? And then I also started to realize that the things that I was mentoring my team, it's not necessarily something that I was always following, and so I was like okay, wait, wait, right. So that was also the start of realizing the choices that I was making and owning up to those choices, not not sort of saying, oh well, it's because of this boss, it's like no, I made the choice. And so I would say that was the start of, I mean, our whole journey. Is our soul partner, right? But I think that was perhaps the conscious start of realizing I can't hide behind saying I'm too busy at work Because I think that's easy to do. I've got so much work to do, I've got to take care of this. I've got to take care of this. No-transcript, I got to take care of this. I got to take care of this.

Speaker 2:

So I decided that fall. But I was like all right, enough's, enough, I need a break. And I decided to leave. And it was kind of like, oh, finally the sabbatical that I always wanted. I just not believe that I wanted it to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it took. You know, I was like I'm gonna take a like left in, I think, november, um, so I was gonna take the next two months holiday vacations, whatever. And then january I started to feel panicky because I was like right, now what?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah I didn't.

Speaker 2:

I didn't realize how much of a transition that would be, having been in corporate for gosh decades, yeah, at that point, and and I remember interviewing and oh man, you can't really fake it till you make it, yeah, I would go to these interviews and sure I did, great, yeah. But I think that was also, uh, the point where I started to really acknowledge how my body felt and what my body was trying to tell me, cause I would, I grew those injuries and I'd be like man, I couldn't.

Speaker 1:

I couldn't, I couldn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know and I also.

Speaker 2:

For me, right, um, what's important is to be authentic and genuine, and so for me, there was that incoherence and misalignment of like, yeah, here I am interviewing and yet I didn't feel aligned with what I was doing. Yeah, and of course, spirit works in such mysterious ways. Then COVID hit, so everything paused and stopped and there truly was no excuse to say that I couldn't look within and understand the choices that I made and making and what's next. But, as with at least my part of the journey, I threw myself into learning everything and anything that I could to understand well myself and human beings in general. I mean, the common thread throughout my career has always been understanding well what motivates people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, like what you know. So it was natural for me, like boy, I'm just going to learn everything that I can about everything, every topic, every subject. And so that, I realized, became my next excuse. Not that I wasn't doing the work throughout. Oh my God, there were some pretty dark nights with the soul. Also, I remember talking to one of my coaches and I was like you know, no one tells you that when you choose to actually embark on truly looking within, has to start from within, at least that's my opinion, yeah, that one there isn't necessarily a finish line.

Speaker 2:

two, that, um, it can sometimes feel like, I know, for me, I remember thinking, oh, great, like I've, like, I've, uh, I've seen all these, the lessons and the insights and the breakthroughs, and great, great, great. And then and then I remember at one point feeling like the slightest whiff of the wind and I would shatter into a million pieces. I was like, what am I doing wrong? And then I realized, oh, so that's the next part of the journey, yeah, is being conscious of understanding all the ways that I made myself wrong, all the ways that I imprisoned myself. I was judge, persecutor, executioner, name it. And that was hard. That was a hard part of realizing that it wasn't all the things that we think it should be. It's mom, dad, whatever, it's me, it's me, so, yeah, so it's one of those, uh, uh, definitely fulfilling, extremely hard so worth it.

Speaker 1:

So what do you? Um? I mean, I know so. So how did you? How did you take the reframe in that journey for your career?

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean to this day, I think back to my experience as a corporate and now can see it as like, oh, that actually was part of my sole curriculum. Yeah, you know, for the longest time I had such a divide between sort of my corporate life and experience and then my now what I call like my more heart led, sort of spiritual focused yeah, but all those experiences actually were part of me returning home to me and me understanding how to follow my heart. And the guy that, especially when everyone else letting me know or telling me that me understanding how to follow my heart and the guy that, especially when everyone else letting me know or telling me that it's the wrong thing to do, yeah, but that's all part of it all right.

Speaker 2:

So I think back to experiences where, um, I was told I cared too much, and whether or not I was conscious of internalizing that, sure I did. And then I thought, oh, caring too much and being sensitive and having feelings, until I realized, actually, no, we actually it might actually be a resource for us to care a little bit more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I actually I want to speak to that because I too have that told to me. You know, try too hard, care too much, and I mean we got lots of love to give you know so we want to give it, but not everybody's ready for that, you know, or not everybody's, that's true. That's true, or prepared, or whatever it is, that doesn't matter. Yeah, what, what the thing that matters.

Speaker 1:

And then I want to speak to what my my yoga teacher had told me but is it's not that you care too much, it's that you're too attached to the result of the caring you have? Yeah, yeah and so. And then that makes me what she had told me about in something I wrestled with, which, you know, as an actor, as an artist, there's always rejection. You know it's like, it's like it's just, it's it just banked in. You know your odds are very low to get something, but if you get anything that like, you're like well, that means the odds of you getting a lot of no's is a bit greater. So in that regard, it's a spiritual journey out the gate, right, right, but, um, but I remember I would care so much in the same vein about, like, a project or an audition or something that that I really wanted or was working for, whatever, whatever, and I would attach my worthiness to whether or not it happened.

Speaker 1:

And I remember my. And so then I started. So then what I thought I did, what I thought was the next best approach, and say I don't care, it's okay, I don't care. And she was like no, no, no, no, no, no, care, yes, care, it's okay, I don't care.

Speaker 2:

And she was like no, no, no, no, no, no, care, yes, Care, yes, yeah, yeah, I think, during a similar part of my journey where, yeah, I was told I cared too much, I remember actually even saying you know, I wish I could care less. I actually wish I could care less.

Speaker 1:

You don don't, though, if you're really honest with yourself, right, right, um, you didn't attach too much so that it hurts so bad when yes, and so that's, that's, that's the lesson.

Speaker 2:

Right is, is the attachment, is the um, but it's also you, you said it earlier which is not everyone can receive.

Speaker 1:

They're not ready, not ready, or yeah, or will be whatever all right, I mean I so, when I think of the aura and I think we did, I think we did this together the auric field and the and I look at it like a torus shape, right, so that's got the opening at the top and the opening at the bottom, and then energy kind of spirals around you. So, um, if and it's similar to giving and receiving energy compliments, love, whatever right, energy, yeah, money, that's energy, no. So if you block one end of that tunnel, it can't get through to the other. Right, if you're sitting here just giving and giving and giving out the bottom, but you're not opening the top to receive, then the energy can't flow and you're just you implode, you imbalance.

Speaker 1:

You know it's just off, right, right, yeah, so some people aren't aware of that channel within them and are not aware of the blocks that they have placed or life has gifted them as an opportunity to learn, you know. So when they receive it, they don't know what to do with it because the channels aren't clear. Yep, yep, you know, or what have you?

Speaker 2:

I mean, my journey, or at least my sort of curriculum has been part of it, has been like practicing how to receive You're a, you're yeah Right. Practicing how to receive, how to allow, how to even something, even compliments, I'm just saying thank you, thank you, yeah, cause growing up I you know, I obviously didn't realize this until much later it was taught to me not to trust, that Like a compliment.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just always didn't, out of fear to protect myself. Yeah, if they didn't mean it, then it's okay, just I'll just. I'll just, you know what, I'll just brush their compliment away.

Speaker 2:

you're just, yeah, yeah you want, you, yeah, you want. It's not even there.

Speaker 1:

It's like somebody, and that's the thing when somebody explained it to me. It's like somebody's giving you a gift. The kind of gift yes, in front of yourself and and dismiss it. You're like hitting the gift out of their hands. Right, you wouldn't't do that? That's rude.

Speaker 2:

Right. I'm curious, at least for you. I know the answer for me, but I'm curious how willing and able were you to receive your own gifts to yourself?

Speaker 1:

You're not working on that. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

Well, same but even realizing that, oh, but. But like realizing right that like, oh, I can't even receive it from myself. Like I remember doing work, right Of looking in the mirror and being like I love you.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, see, it's still hard. And even in like with my, with my kids, um, with the young girls uh group, that I did the program that I had, I had them all make self-love mirrors where they, you know, like a self-love sunburst mirrors, you know, I took popsicles and write positive I am statements, and then they had to, you know, to write to say it every. And I was like, girl, you don't even do that, you're like. I was like, I'm just like, yeah, say it. And I was like girl, you don't even do that, you're like like, I was like. And then I'm like, yeah, say it, I am powerful, I am a superhero, I am funny, I'm kind and whatever you know.

Speaker 2:

So for me that was that was part of reframing my story. Yeah, was realizing that for me I had to start from within. I don't remember I shared the story with you, so I have Kwon Yee here at my desk. Oh, yes, and I did this journey that my friend Laura had taken us through. It was kind of like a seven-generation maternal lineage journey and at the end you gather with this group of women that are your ancestors and goddesses and whatnot.

Speaker 2:

And um, I remember Kuan Yin walking towards me Cool, kuan Yin, excellent, yeah, she had, she had a chest. And uh, she gives it to me and I opened it up and essentially, the gift that she had for me was to compassion, right. And I remember, oh, the ego in us cracks me up. I remember looking at being like like, uh, I think I was like, is it was this for me? Like I think I got yeah, and um, she lovingly said to me this is for you and yes, you have mastered it for other people and now it's time to master it for yourself. And I was like, oh, I was like compassion.

Speaker 1:

Damn girl.

Speaker 2:

I was like oh, all right, I'm putting my place, got it Really noted, really noted.

Speaker 1:

That's funny, that's beautiful, though I mean that's so that's, that's the you know that's the ongoing thing, though, yeah, it's. It's funny because we see everybody else change around us, you know, and so it's easy for us to go and they're changing, they're doing this, they got to remember to do that, and we see ourselves as the constant right changing just as much. So we're always having, we have to do that with ourselves too, and that's yeah, that's the hard, that's the difficult practice to learn.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do find that it does get easier with practice. It does, but one actually has to choose to practice.

Speaker 1:

That's true, and there's many different ways to practice, though. I'll say that too. I mean, you know, even and this is where I've been finding the compassion for myself is if my practice, my practice, does not look like it did when I was in my 20s. I had no commitments and I, my practice, was, like you know, like textbook. Yeah, then, when you have kids and traveling and, like you know, other personalities in the house you have to deal with and oh, hey, you know um, and time is your most valuable asset that you have you feel like a pauper and you know?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that you know it's. It's not going to look like it, did you know? And that's been the one of the hardest parts it's it's. It looks different now, you know, and sometimes it has a very specific structure to it and sometimes it's just, you know, I get up early, before my kids, but sometimes that structure is me getting up and if I just have to sit and drink my tea and brain fart until the end, that's it too.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's what you got to do, yeah, and again, I think, for me I keep bringing up, because for me this, this is a lot of what reminds me about how we can always choose to do things differently, right? So I was similar. I had, like, my meditation practice, my breathwork practice. I was doing it for over like 500 days and and then I realized, okay, it's not really. I was noticing, noticing what I was noticing, I was noticing that it wasn't actually providing me the same resourcefulness that I did before. But then I had this struggle of being like what if I change that? What does it mean? Yes, what does it mean? And so it's, even in those instances where, at least I noticed for myself oh wow, look how fear shows up in a way that really doesn't matter. If it's not resourceful, why do I keep doing it? For that small fractal, let alone all the other areas where, if it's not resourceful, why am I still choosing to do it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking of you know. Yeah, it depends on for how long to, because sometimes, sometimes, just the showing up to the thing, whether or not it feels the same as it did in the in the beginning, is a reminder of humility. Do you know what I'm saying? And so you're showing up out of humility and not to get something.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes not always right, you know if that if it continues after a certain while, it's like, yeah, we got to shift things up. There was also, uh, when I took this kabbalah course, one of of the things that I liked. I had a lot of wonderful nuggets from that course, and one of them was, if you have a routine or a ritual or whatever you know to shake, to switch it up. Yes, always switch it up so that you don't get attached again. You're not attached, that the spirituality isn't attached to a thing, that it's living within you and that you are resilient and flexible to the surroundings, because the surroundings are not your spirit. Right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have a metaphorical medicine bag, right, yeah, this toolkit that I can kind of go in and be like all right, what, what am I going to take up today?

Speaker 2:

That's going to be social for me, yeah, yes, but it's not just one thing, and sometimes it's a combination of things. But that's the beauty of a medicine bag or toolkit, whatever you want to call it, is that we, we get to, um, remind ourselves of all these things that we've picked up along the way yeah, how it's been resourced for us and ways in which you know what. For this point, it's not and it's okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

When it's bad. It doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean any of that, it's just. It's not what I need.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I like, I like using it like a science experiment, like it's kind of similar to what you're saying too, because, like you know, if you're always looking at yourself energetically, physically, whatever, as a science experiment, it's not. It's not that this is good or this is bad that I'm using, it's just what is the appropriate thing, the appropriate that I'm using.

Speaker 2:

It's just what is the appropriate thing, the appropriate issue? Right, I just, I just saw this image of a paintbrush and the hammer and that usual thing of like. You know, if I'm trying to paint a canvas, I'm not going to use a hammer. Right, right, yeah, right, if I'm trying to, if I'm trying to nail something to a piece of wood, I'm not going to use a paintbrush.

Speaker 1:

Paintbrush. Well, it's not going to get very far. I mean no.

Speaker 2:

I mean that would definitely be the definition of insanity.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not working. Help, you know. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, you know.

Speaker 2:

And the beautiful thing about the intuition is that it is creative in nature and fluid in nature. And so is that silent voice, or that, that whisper that says remember this, remember this tool that you have, want to pick it up again?

Speaker 1:

no, and it, and the thing is, is that is a lesson that side that quiet voice isn't a lesson in detachment, because that quiet voice will sit by the side and be like when you're ready, I'm just telling you?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it is, it is. I'm just telling you until you do it yeah, it is.

Speaker 1:

You have the courage, you can do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, patient um, yeah, patient and just all right. Well, that didn't work, all right. Well, let's try a different route, let's try a different script. Okay, yeah, that worked. Okay, cool, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, it's, it's.

Speaker 1:

It's funny. I was, um, I've been thinking a lot about you, you know, as a navigational tool, the intuition, lately, and then even just I just did a podcast about like we don't use our intuition anymore because we've got Google maps, we've got, you know, find me or find somebody else on your phone, you know, you've got all restaurants and you can check your traffic, you can check, you know everything, yeah. So it's like we've kind of removed ourself from that spiritual, instinctual, intuitive place or piece of ourselves you know.

Speaker 2:

I still listen to my intuition. So, even though I know the route, or route, however, you say it to the patient, well, you have to make an effort to, because it's not as common Like okay, how about this?

Speaker 1:

When you were in grade school and the phone rang, I know you were like I knew who that is. Yes, right, because I did it too. And you test yourself and you're like I knew who that is. Yes, right, because I did it too. And you test yourself and you're like I was right. I was right, yep, yeah. But now it's like oh God, it's this person. Oh, you're like um, you know, can't talk. Why are you calling text? Oh, you know, email me, jesus.

Speaker 2:

Nowadays people don't even call, right. No, that's what I'm saying. People text to say can I call you?

Speaker 1:

But you kind of have to Like I had this. This is a generational thing, because so, as an artist, you work multi-generational right and I, I think I called someone recently. I did, I did, oh, I did, I did, oh I did. I called somebody because it was like for a specific thing, like for like a business thing. I mean it's a business, but you know, art business this is not oxymoron, but meaning I thought it was okay for me to call because we were trying to clarify some things and the person was not of my generation and they never called me back, they would only text me or email me. And I was like, I did it like two or three times, and then I was like, am I doing something wrong? I thought like if we're going to work together, we should talk, right?

Speaker 2:

You didn't even get a voice audio.

Speaker 1:

Mm-mm. That was a straight up like sister, you're in a different generation than me. That was, like you know, weird thing when you talk to people. Yeah, that was straight up. No, you are not gonna hear my voice. Yeah, they're like. You text me when I'm ready for you to text me. It's like, goddamn, am I like right, you know, and I kind of, I almost, almost am, cause I'm basically the age of my grandma, when I was a kid. That's besides the point. The point is is like you know, people don't talk on the phone anymore.

Speaker 2:

I know, I know, I mean, look it is. It is kind of weird when someone calls you're like if you don't have a relationship with them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's weird. You're relationship with them. Yeah, it's weird, you're like um, yeah, thank you telemarketers, because, like anybody, now is just like what do you want?

Speaker 2:

you know? Well, I mean and I'll age myself, but growing up, um, especially with family being overseas, uh, a call was actually not good because, yeah, yep, you want to speak to that a little.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, which part? What did you into that?

Speaker 2:

Oh my goodness, so much I mean, you know, so explain explain real quick Right. Right. So so, ethnically I'm from the Philippines. I've never lived there. I was born in Jordan, 12 years in Thailand or Israel. I also lived in Thailand, Spent summers in India, Pakistan and Iran.

Speaker 2:

And so for me, my home In the military, right, my father, was in the United Nations. United Nations, that's right. We were similar, kind of moving around a lot. So for me I didn't necessarily have a hometown per se, right, right, right, I'd be like well, what years? And I'll tell you, kind of where I was going to tell you. Yeah, I was like well, what year? I was like no, pick one. I was like no, no, no, no, no, you pick one. I was like no, you pick one, one. Um. So so, even from that perspective, right, I I feel very blessed that I um had the opportunity to experience so many different cultures yeah different ways of being.

Speaker 2:

That I that, to this day, serves me, because I kind of understand that and and really, what I have come to notice is we have so many more similarities than we have differences, absolutely Like. I will. You know, sometimes we'll say, oh, that's a Filipino thing and it's like, oh, actually, no, it's also a Israeli thing, it's also a Palestinian thing, it's also like, there's so many similarities, like there's so many similarities. However, it was difficult for me to.

Speaker 2:

I think one of the things that I learned from growing up in all these different places was one the skill of being able to be flexible, yeah, and to be able to, um, listen and understand nuances and cultural differences and whatnot. And, as with every light, there is a shadow side, um, so, but I also learned to be so flexible and to be so chameleon, likelike, that you know, for a big part, like I didn't know which part of you was actually me, what was sort of either expected of me or some things I picked up along the way. So, yeah, so my family is from Philippines and that's where most of them are. They are actually there In the US, but, yeah, overseas phone calls was not a good thing. One was expensive and two meant that if it was a phone call, it was important.

Speaker 2:

And important, not as a happy birthday important.

Speaker 1:

It was an important day, yeah, but yeah again, you know mental models, uh growing up and uh the end of the day, though I feel very blessed that I got to experience all of the different cultures and that's a lot of beautiful experience, both as a child, culturally, but then also on the corporate end, because you work with you have a beautiful way that you said it corporate seasoned executives, curious young minds, you know, to help them align with their inner strength and realign their true calling.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I think one of the things that I see and you see this too, Megan is the potentials and the probabilities. We all have an infinite number of potentials and probabilities and as empaths, as sensitive beings, we can actually see, hear, name all the visual and whatever representation systems when a person might not be in alignment with who they be, and that's a tough, you know, speaking of our personal experience when you're not who you are and who you want yourself to be, even if it's something or someone that people might not have easily understood or embraced or accepted, that sense of belonging is still important. And again, for me at least, for my journey, I have learned and continue to learn that that sense of belonging starts with me, first and foremost, being alone. That sense of belonging starts with me first and foremost. And so when people say where do you feel most at home, I say, well, this feels most at home Doesn't matter, location wise, it's. Where does this feel most at home? Yeah, and that's home, that's home, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's home. That's home, amen. I feel like that is the best place to stop. So we're going to stop it right there, because I couldn't have a better outline than that. Thank you so much, mai, for joining me. How can people get in touch with you? How can they work with you?

Speaker 2:

I am. So what did I say? I'm consistently inconsistent in socials, but I am on the usual LinkedIn. I'm also on Instagram. I'm not a big fan of Facebook, so I'm there, but I don't really use it. And Megan can include my my email.

Speaker 1:

And mylenehendrickcom is your website.

Speaker 2:

Actually I actually took it down, so don't do that, guys. I mean, yeah, just don't don't. I mean if, if you want to reach out and connect with me, just connect with me.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Talk to me, I'll put your. I'll put your your email and info in the in this show notes yeah, so thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

This is I love talking same.

Speaker 1:

It's just your. Your laugh is just pure joy. It makes me so happy. Thank you you.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you for making me laugh and allowing for my joy to come out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, honey, I'm going to talk to you soon. Thank you all for tuning in. If you like what you're hearing and seeing, please like and subscribe. It helps, it just helps, that's it, it helps, and I love you back. All right, bye, my lean bye, everybody, um talk to you soon, thank you.

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