Intuitive Insights: Harnessing the Power of Intuition + Creativity in Everyday Life
Hosted by Meghan McDonough, your No BS “Woo-Woo” Coach: Intuitive Insights is a transformative podcast. Meghan is an Intuitive Life coach who’s passion is to guide you to use your intuition and creativity for a more purpose-filled life. The podcast draws inspiration from various sources such as ancient wisdom texts, yoga, philosophical teachings, intuitive readings, interviews and personal anecdotes. Along with reflections on the intuitive messages, practical tips, exercises, and actionable steps are provided to help listeners incorporate personal growth and mindfulness into their daily lives. The aim is to empower listeners to create a more fulfilling and purposeful life knowing “You.Are.Intuitive!”
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Intuitive Insights: Harnessing the Power of Intuition + Creativity in Everyday Life
The Sacred Swing: Embracing Both Action and Receptivity
Meghan and Camilla explore the role of intuition in artistic creation, defining it as the soul's voice that expands when we connect to our truth.
• Intuition manifests physically as either expansion or retraction in the solar plexus
• Fear serves as a guardrail, directional guide, and fuel for creative exploration
• Artists must balance masculine (action/doing) and feminine (receiving/dreaming) energies
• True balance is kinetic, requiring constant micro-adjustments like balancing on a surfboard
• Transformation requires moving through uncertainty while staying connected to inner wisdom
• The world reflects our internal imbalances between masculine and feminine energies
• Art creation demands both dreaming (feminine) and execution (masculine) working in harmony
Camilla Frontain is an actor/photographer/educator based in Chicago, IL. Her photography journey has culminated in an offering entitled The Honoring- a process of honoring the life of her subjects through embodied explorations. Her MFA in Acting from Southern Methodist University is the root of her embodied practice as both an actor and photographer, and her recent experience in Bulgaria as a Fulbright ETA allowed for her to refine her facilitation of individual and collective creativity in the classroom. Now, in Chicago, she is building her photography practice, Frontain, in service to artists and actors seeking creative portraits to help further their career.
website: camfrontain.com
email: camfrontain@gmail.com
insta: @camfrontain & @Frontain_Photography
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yeah, hi, welcome to intuitive insights. I am your host, megan mcdonough. I am an intuitive guide and a creativity coach, and today I have a special guest. I have with me Camilla Frontain, who is a fellow artist, and I'm going to have you, camilla, introduce yourself.
Speaker 2:Would you like to do that? Okay, I would love to do that. Hello, I'm Camilla Frontain. I am an actor meets photographer meets educator. I've spent a long, long time bringing those worlds together and I'm still always investigating those worlds of photography, education and acting and I make stuff there.
Speaker 1:I love it. Camille and I know each other from a um group. Uh, it's kind of I actually call it like a kin to like a happening. You know the happenings in the 60s, what? In the 60s they had a thing called like happenings. You didn't learn about this in college.
Speaker 1:No, maybe I don't know so I too, uh, am an actor and went to school for it, and and one of the things we learned about was a thing called happenings that were in, uh, the 60s, and what they were was like you would go to a home or a venue or whatever, just like you'd get an invite and you just show up and people would make art, whatever, whatever the element was, and you'd either come with something and like I mean, this is my understanding of it you would come with either music, or you know painting or acting, whatever, maybe art, you know theater, and it would just. It was just like you'd come together and see what happened. It's kind of like a drum circle with for artists.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. That sounds amazing, I know, but that's kind of akin to what?
Speaker 1:we do for actors. It's like a group where we come together and I also call it like an actor's gym, like we show up, we get, you know, I want to say naked, but not literally, we're figuratively naked, we get vulnerable and we explore and we take risks and we play and support each other, and it's a beautiful space and that's how we met, yes, at Red Orchard Theater. So I'm going to ask you my two questions and then we're going to see where we go from there, okay, okay. The first is how would you define intuition?
Speaker 2:How would I define intuition? It's such a. It's a. That's a good question, because I think first about my guts, yeah, and I go especially for me to my solar plexus, and intuition to me is the feeling of either expansion or retraction in my solar plexus. That's how I. That's beautiful. I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks, I love that visual because I always say that it's for me, I always say it's true. Intuition is that which connects, which would be expanding, reaching out right, and then fear is that which contracts, which is coming away from something. And you know disconnect, you know what I mean, right?
Speaker 2:So um yeah, it's interesting to me how both of those things, though, for me, like in my journey in my life, I think my intuition began with fear. Actually, it began with the retraction and like coming to know that feeling and coming to be intimate with the physical feeling of that in my body, and coming to really actually start to listen to my body in order to even have a sensation of when it began to expand. And so, like, intuition is kind of like, yeah, the quiet, the quiet knowings of hey, listen to this, that you can't really explain, that is more of a body sensation, yeah, connected to I don't know what, I don't know sensation, yeah, connected to I don't know what, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I call it the soul's voice. You know, it's like we have the, the energetic side of ourself that's, um, uh, permanent, and then the physical part of ourself that's impermanent, and the mind, um, the mind and fear. Activate and try and protect the impermanence of our physical shell Right, because it's transient, so, um, it needs protection, whereas the soul is, you know, everlasting, and so it doesn't have things like fear, is, you know, everlasting, and so it doesn't have things like fear, it doesn't have things like right Tell me yeah, okay, okay, okay so let's get into it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to talk really fast because I'm trained in this methodology of theater making called soul work it's it's a methodology of embodied studio practice and creation that's rooted in African-American performance and oral traditions created by Dr Crystal Chanel Trescott and, um, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:It's a way of merging and synthesizing, kind of just like global perspective and activism with creative impulse. And part of that study and that search research I feel like for me it always feels like research when I go into the studio is something called emotional availability, which is like being really closely tied to especially fear, anger, joy and sadness rooted in the body and allowing for freedom to pass between each of those emotions as it's anchored in the body, as also something called call and response. So so I say all of this to be like my study of soul, yeah, and how soul travels through the body as an actor and what is able to like actually access its freedom fully, and to be like to allow it to also be physicalized and put into our work as actors. It means that you have to have freedom even in things like fear. Yes, that like school is like is passing through fear and does access fear and has a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, speak to it. I mean, I think we're saying the same thing in a different context, like, like, soul is the and yes, I like the way you're using the word flow, because it is more, I see it like Shiva, shakti, you know it is that kind of Shakti, fluid, energetics. You know that's how it moves. Soul is free to flow, right, whereas um the more uh sounds so woo, woo, but like, the more earthly, tangible things, like fear, which is, you know, um part of the human experience, right, anger, all those emotions, um, they're transient though, meaning they, um, they change, right, so, but the ability to change is allowing that flow of the soul.
Speaker 1:Totally so, if you don't allow that flow of the soul. What you get is stuck, you know, you get um, it's just like, uh, the life force doesn't flow there anymore. So then creativity starts to dwindle. Um growth starts to diminish, right, you, you know? Um expression, it becomes hidden, you know? Or or one tract, right? I feel like we're saying the same things. Maybe we're not in different ways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe we are saying the same things in different ways, I guess, I guess what I'm curious about yet is the role that fear plays.
Speaker 1:I find fear is fuel. Really, fear is for me and, yes, let's get into this one, cause this is my one of my favorites. Um, fear is two things. It's, uh well, a couple of things. It's a guardrail, it's a directional and it's fuel. It's a directional and it's fuel, and if it is none of those, it's a block. So it has. It's like fear comes to show us either where to go or where not to go. Right. Sometimes, as artists, I feel like it's telling us where to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In the physical body. Sometimes I feel like it's don't go there, like don't walk into the fire. Not a great idea, you know, unless you want to die. And then, and then, when you as an artist, when you recognize the fear, is saying come here, explore this, then you can either use it as fuel and say damn it, yeah, you know, put that fewer fear, fear in your engine tank and then move forward, right.
Speaker 2:And just go?
Speaker 1:I don't. I don't know what I'm doing, but I got the fuel in my gas tank. Um, or you can go. I'm scared and stay still.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Right, and then it becomes a block. Now your turn.
Speaker 2:I so agree with that. You know, like I, there's like a phrase that I was like fear is an indicator. I don't know who said it, um, but yeah, like fear is an indicator, oftentimes of which direction? Um, to actually investigate more, and I find that to be true. But at the same time as you were talking, I'm like what specifically I'm like?
Speaker 2:You know, like I think there have been times in my life where I've been really afraid, but I get that sensation of being stale and I can't stand being stale, right, that actually, like when I start, yeah, standing in one place for too long, then I just get frustrated and then I just get angry and then I may be self-destruct a little bit, yeah, and I guess all of that serves its purpose, but it always comes back to, like, what's on the other side of, yeah, of fear, you know, and of course I mean I think there's this other method that I'm trained in called PEM, that has to do with emotion in the body as well, and there's a pattern for fear and she's like go into the fear pattern but keep walking forward and you get that experience in you of going into a fear pattern and being in complete fear, which everything in you is wanting to go backwards, but you're walking forward and she stops us and she's like that's courage.
Speaker 1:Yes, I was just about to say that's courage, right.
Speaker 2:Right and so, yeah, it's interesting though, cause, as I look, I'm like kind of like what's like? I'm like I could try to think of this in regards to like yeah, like acting, but more so like yeah, in life, you know, like I'm facing some big kind of career shifts right now and there's been a lot of fear and a lot of standing still and a lot of frustration, a lot of anger and a lot of like gnashing my teeth, and then there's this like little quiet thing that's kind of like um, you can keep going forward, but the going forward really is stepping into like not knowing what's going to happen, and I guess maybe that's yeah, that's on the other side of fear. A lot of times. For me, I think, is the not knowing and being able to exercise really being okay with not knowing and staying calm and still moving forward even in the not knowing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the brain wants to. The brain is the. So the other saying thought I have or philosophy I have, is that the brain is the ruler of the body where the heart is the ruler of the soul. So the soul knows, has the map, you know, and the brain has to rationalize the journey. So it's like your soul is saying, yeah, go forward. But your brain is like, but how are we going to do this?
Speaker 2:What exactly?
Speaker 1:you know. And then the I think, the difficulty of being an artist, one of the things because the things that are on that are common, commonly hard for people who aren't artists which are the things like listening to your intuition and having the courage to go forward, and adaptability. You know that need for flow to be coming through you, change, needing to create Right, not wanting to be stuck or stagnant. Those things to other people may seem more daunting, but to us, come easy. What seems more daunting to us is how do I marry the outside and the inside? How do I marry that? Listening to my intuition and courage and making it make sense in the real world, you know, so that they can flow together. Yeah, that's what I found to be the hardest part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I mean for me maybe I'm with a lot of the people on the outside of it because I also have had like a hard time reckoning with being an artist. I've had a hard time accepting it until recently, honestly, and I think that part of the reason that I am an artist is so that the, the necessity of making art, makes me face that thing again and again and again. And really it comes down to transformation, yes, and finding oneself, yes and um, finding oneself, yeah, like finding oneself in a path that asks one to transform again and again and again. Kind of being like oh my gosh, yeah, kind of like getting to a new place in that of like, but for why? Yeah, like it is that thing of of the heart, the soul and the brain, and finding balance. And to me, I mean, I started thinking about the feminine and the masculine with that too.
Speaker 2:That's been a huge thing, for for me as well, it's like you can think one thing about what is feminine and another thing about what is masculine. You can think, think, think, think, think about what these things are, and that too is standing still until you embody and allow things to be what they are and to be balanced and to become balanced. And then there's that fear, because in that place, transformation looks like oh, I thought I was this, yeah, and actually I'm coming to understand who and what I really am. Yeah, and it's yeah. It's like there's that fear and then the brain comes in and is like well, you got to do this to be this, and then you got to do this to be this and then you got to do that, to be that, and then you kind of like, yeah, just standing still until until nothing makes sense, and then you can't do anything but move forward yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're saying that, and I was thinking of, uh, do you know the, the law of gender? Do you know that universal law of gender? What's the universal law of gender? Well, in my rudimentary understanding, I believe it is along the lines of all things have gender, just like the universal law of polarity. All things have a spectrum, right? So there is no good, there's no bad, there's just deviations of more or less, you know. And the same with gender, in my understanding, is that all things have, and this is something I thought. So, all right, let's talk, let's talk about this, let's get, let's get into it.
Speaker 1:When I was a kid, I remember thinking that masculine and feminine were not Subject to biology Meaning that and this is why I came up with it is because I have a lot of masculine energy in me. Do you know what I mean? But I also have feminine energy. But I was related to having more masculine energy, you know, and my parents were like I always joked around and would say, like my, my dad was the mom and my mom was the dad. My mom had a lot of masculine energy still does, and my dad had a lot more feminine energy, still does, you know? So, um, to me. I didn't understand, like why everyone was so, you know, rigid in the thinking that we don't own both masculine and feminine to different degrees.
Speaker 2:Like it's.
Speaker 1:It's like, you know what's your combination 80, 20, 24. You know what I mean? 24, you know what I mean. It doesn't matter what you're physically, but like, what's your gender combination that makes you uniquely, you, right? Like, what's the percentage of what you know? Or is it all balanced, or whatever, anyway, but now it's such a prevalent topic for many reasons, right, and the one thing that I found and I don't mean this in any way uh, to be I. I believe everyone should be seen and heard and able to express their unique, special spark, no matter how uh that looks, as long as it's unharmful to them or others, right, right. But the focus on the labeling is what is upsetting to me, because I'm like the label doesn't matter, right, it's, it's the diamond inside, doesn't matter what fucking brand it is. You know, yeah, um, but yeah, and it and it's, and it's. That has been, that is, throughout time and throughout nature in general, that masculine, feminine, you know, ratio, devout of biology.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I yeah. Wow, that's really cool to hear all that. And and yeah, I relate, you know, like, growing up I identified as male, like I was a little boy until I was 13, totally, totally, yeah. If you were to ask, especially my siblings, they're like, yeah, camilla was a boy and I loved being a boy.
Speaker 2:But of course, I grew up in partially in texas and, um, I grew up I'm mormon and so, there, eventually, as I was getting older, it became hard for me to um sit in the uncertainty of the world and how it was reacting and responding to my appearance, you know. And so I had to shift. And what an interesting thing of like. I was like all right, we were moving to Idaho and I was like, all right, it is so interesting like quote, unquote, trying to be a girl when I'd like lived, just even as I was like, and I didn't have the languaging for like, I identify as being a boy. I never like denied it, you know like I never was. I never was like no, like my body, I was like always like, yeah, I'm like a female body, but like I'm a, I'm a boy, you know, kind of thing.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, all this to say I like what you're saying about kind of this, the spark and that being what it is, and actually that really not having words, and I think that we need words for so many things now. And I remember I was in grad school recently and I was remembering things about growing up and I had for many years been wrestling with being a woman and never really feeling like I could like, never really feeling like what does that mean to you?
Speaker 1:Like what is being a woman? Like how do you define that? And never really feeling like I could like never really feeling like what does that mean to you?
Speaker 2:Like what is being a woman? Like how do you define it? I know, right, I was in question and I would ask people and they never knew how to answer it.
Speaker 1:They be like, well, it's whatever you want it to be and I kind of was like, which is also annoying in answer yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like the closest thing that I found, that brought me comfort and brought me like satisfaction. And an answer was actually I have a small copy of the Tao that my grandma gave me and in the back there's commentary, and I can't remember for which chapter it was commenting on, but whoever was annotating was like the female is one who receives something and with it creates, and I was like yeah, that's me.
Speaker 1:I was like oh my.
Speaker 2:God and that helped me come to terms with, like, okay, that thing of receiving and creating. I and and I still do like it's interesting, I, I have a really intimate connection with what I, in my body and in my heart and in my soul, deem to be female and deem to be male, and it has to do with my ancestry and it has to do with, like, I have these two little objects that I carry around with me all the time. What's this guy? So this? My grandfather, who passed this last year, was a sculptor, and this is the smallest sculptor. He was a sculptor. Yes, edward J Frotten. He was a. He made monuments. That's beautiful. What is that? Is it a man? It's a man in a hoop.
Speaker 1:Inside, a hoop Inside a hoop. Is he smoking? Is he smoking? Is he smoking? Yeah, it looks like there's like a cigarette hanging as well.
Speaker 2:I can't, I'll think it might be his nose maybe it's just his okay, so basically, like my grandpa was the epitome of of doing of of action, of creating, of like. His thing was the human body and understanding it so well that he could be guided to create anything, and it was all about the being educated and the learning. He was an inventor. He had this beautiful, incredible, massive mind and, you know, like he wasn't perfect at all and there's things that were always like a struggle with him, but at the end of the day he would do.
Speaker 2:He would go, he would alchemize information into action.
Speaker 2:And then my grandma, who's still with us and will be, I believe, for probably another decade hopefully she has my whole life she had this table full of crystals yeah, lex, crystals.
Speaker 2:She gave me this one as I was going through my divorce and it has a window in it. And she just spoke to you know, like this helps you dream, this helps you look into the future, this helps you to get a sensation of, like, what you want and where you're going. And so, to me, like these are just two objects that represent what I've come to believe about the feminine and masculine, which is the idea, the dreaming, the seeing, the articulation of seeing, and then the masculine energy of doing. It's like a swing. It's like, to me it's not even necessarily like women only dream and men only no, like like I think that personally, like I'm here in part to learn about these two energies and to balance them and to be somebody who can swing, you know, and it's like, let's dream and let's go, yeah, dream and let's go. And intuition coming back to intuition, yeah, I think has has guided me in knowing where I am in that swing, yes, and accepting where I am in that swing and surrendering to the swing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. There's like whenever you're trying to, whenever you I love that word alchemize whenever an idea comes to you. Um, that is that little yearning in your heart's, like requesting growth from that seed of an idea, like it's just like this has to grow, this has to grow, this has to grow Do you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:then it's like now you know you've got a journey ahead of you yeah, right yeah, but remembering that even in the act of creation there are there is that masculine, feminine stops along the journey. There's that stop of. This is the time to listen and to cultivate, uh, where the focus is going to be. This is the time to listen and to cultivate where the focus is going to be. This is the time to like, or this is the time to create all the clay so that we can make the sculpture Right.
Speaker 2:You know, let's gather the resources, yeah.
Speaker 1:And there's, there are two different things. And then sometimes you've got to step back and look at the sculpture and be like, is this all I want to do? Is this speaking to me still Right, you know? Does this still want my attention, or is this ready to live on its own Right, you know, and I mean obviously I'm saying sculpture, but could be anything artistic, you know. And so that dance, that Shiva Shakti dance of creation, you know, action and then receiving. Receive the messages put into action. Receive the messages put into action.
Speaker 2:And so it's interesting because like receiving requires so much like, like what I love about the swing for me and my body and in my heart and my soul and even in my brain, of the swing between feminine and masculine, is that it's been hard for me to relinquish the masculine because let's go, yeah, go of the masculine, and it's also been hard for me to like accept the masculine too, because ever since that change of like, ever since realizing that like my appearance was hurting people or at least that was my perception is that my appearance was challenging people beyond the point of comfort in a way that hurt them, especially my family.
Speaker 2:You know, like I, you know that shift. I was like, okay, I'm a girl, and so then it became really hard to accept that there was a lot of masculine in me, and there's still sometimes. I've gotten better at it now but there still is kind of this thing of like wanting to be a woman in a way that I've never been able to like fully do, which is like, honestly, it's like the confidence in receiving, like, the confidence in like being. Like here I am, come here, and like I remember in grad school it was a theme with from my professors for me if they were like Camilla, like I was always here in scenes, I was all ready, I'm ready and I and that's a strength that I have right Like I can play characters. You're very good at that. Go, go, you know like I will like go and I'll do, ready to engage.
Speaker 1:But like the receiving part is a little like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's like having the breath, giving time for the breath, the inhale for, for, yes, receiving, you know, like it only amplifies then when you do go into action, because it's no longer action out of like conditioning, or just like what, what I can do, like, what is familiar, it's actually that transformation, it's actually the fear of receiving, the fear of, well, if I go into receiving, what, if nothing comes, you know, yes, I think that that's probably actually like the biggest thing that's kept me from my feminine, especially because I'm divorced, you know, and my divorce had to do with all that. So, like, there's so much fear in like, if I sit back, if I don't assert, if I don't fight for what I want, if I don't take, then will I ever receive fight for what I want?
Speaker 1:If I don't take, then will I ever receive, and there's the thing of like well, that's when it becomes unbalanced, and that's when it's like well, I feel like that's honestly, I feel like that's a reflection of the state of the world right now, just in general, that it's been such a masculine. I almost feel like we're at, without getting too political, but I feel like we're at the threshold of. You know how, when something is out of balance and, like you're, you're fighting to um, but you don't want to change Do you know what I'm saying? And so you just keep pushing the direction you're going like harder. You push it harder Cause, like, if I push harder, maybe the balance will come back, which never works, you know. So it's almost like it's like the neon light version of whatever it was before.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, it feels like we have been especially like speaking to women who are, um, very aware of their masculine energy and, to be honest, I fucking love it. It got me in a lot of fucking trouble when I was a kid, you know Um, but I wouldn't change it for anything. You know it shows you your power. That um, or perceived power, let's put it that way how the world perceives power, meaning like it made sense in the world that we grew up in and the world we live in. We grew up at and the world we live in. We grew up at different times, but um, but the um, but the bodies in which we found ourselves. It didn't make sense, right, right, but the world itself right now. So it's been a very masculine driven mentality, you know, very, very kind of imbalanced and it feels like, right now is that thing that we're? It's like we're all going further towards the masculine in order to just just jump in there, you know. So maybe we can get more balance, but that's like the complete opposite way.
Speaker 2:It totally is yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I sense and I think my grandma said she senses that there's like a shift and transformation happening, um, in that way of like you can't go that way forever, like the swing has to turn, but like Okay, do you know anything about yugas?
Speaker 1:No, yuga is a. In yoga, there's a thing called your yogic philosophy. There's a thing called you might be Hindu as well, but, uh, yuga, y-u-g-a. And they are time periods, right, and they have names like Kali Yuga, um, the Golden Age, I think it's Satya Yuga, anyway, so there's different times and during the time they're kind of like generational evolution of human energy, human effort, whatever, right, and so, and I'm just thinking of this now, and if this is incorrect, well, it's incorrect, but there are two different philosophies in which yuga we're in.
Speaker 1:The Kali yuga would be going into the dark ages. There's two representations of it One that could be like a bell curve, right, as far as the demonstration of the yugas being like the Brahma yuga, the golden age, or whatever, or San Diego, whatever it would be like at the top of the bell curve. Or you could look at it like a circle, like it's coming around and back and down, and Kali yuga goes into whatever, the. I can't think of the names right now, but I do know Kali yuga is the dark ages. So, but, as we went into the dark ages, right, and there are things that happen with humanity in the dark ages and in the golden ages. So the idea is I'm getting very wordy here Yoga was an oral tradition, almost like telepathic tradition, you know, one-on-one guru, cool stuff and nothing was ever written down about it because it was that's how people communicated, they communicated telepathically, they communicated this higher, elevated level. And so when it went from that golden age and there was a sense that we were going back down towards the Kali Yuga right, where things got more dense and simplified, there was a sage named Patanjali who wrote everything down about yoga and the Patanjali Yoga Sutras, and they're written in little aphorisms that they're like little pills to be unpacked with your guru right About what the essence of the meanings are in Sanskrit.
Speaker 1:Now, the reason I'm bringing this up in the masculine, feminine conversation is it's my belief and this is my. There are two reasons why the philosophy so I have a philosophy that female, specifically minority females would be caught if there was one that was a physical embodiment, a human embodiment of a God and the only reason why I say this. Well, there's many reasons, but the resistance comes to those who have the most power right. The resistance comes to those who have the most power right and who is resisted the most on this earth, or not resisted, restrained or pressed down right. The most Right Would be minorities A and then B, females, so those who have the most power. There would be no reason to push someone down and to make them small. If they weren't already big, they weren't already powerful, there'd be no need Right.
Speaker 1:So that's my philosophy on that, but going from as we went from the golden age towards the Kali Yuga, everything became more masculine. I'm just saying this is like you know, touting the female horn right now. But when you go back to the golden age where everything is more intuitive, more telepathic, more kind of ethereal, it's more feminine energy it's receiving, you know it's, it's just being, I just thought of that. That was a long walk. That was a long walk, good walk.
Speaker 2:I enjoyed that walk. That was very cultural. No, like, yeah, it makes me curious about, like, what actual balance looks like when, like the masculine is. You know, like there, there are men that I know who I feel are so balanced and they're actually pretty feminine men, right Like they yeah, yeah, they have access to their femininity, which I guess just means that they receive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're, they sit, they sit back a little bit and they listen and they receive and they're in in wonderful, great access to actual love. Yes, in their listening and yeah, like and they're also courageous.
Speaker 1:Courageous and they also protect and they also drive and have action. Right yeah, when I teach yoga, um, and you know cause, there are a lot of balancing poses in yoga, and you know, because there are a lot of balancing poses in yoga and so I asked the question, I'll ask you uh, is um, is balance static or kinetic? That's such a good question, wow, balance is it stagnant or static, or is it kinetic? Does it have movement?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I'm like caught in that because the word suspension comes to mind, where it's like, you know, you throw something and at the top there's that moment of suspension and it's balanced. So it's almost like I want to be cheeky and be like, oh, it's kind of in the middle, but I don't know. Like at the same time, in a way, it is yeah, absolutely the balance, and maybe balance only happens for a little bit you know, like it only like comes for a second and that's enough and it's all right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have to remember that at one point there was balance and we work towards it again.
Speaker 1:So the example I use have you ever gone surfing or paddleboarding A little bit, or been on anything, even just stood in the middle of a teeter-totter?
Speaker 2:Yeah, or I used to be on endo boards yeah, yeah, but in order to keep the balance board balanced, like I used to be on like endo boards you know what those are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like up super tall on this wall.
Speaker 2:You're up super high and there's just like little movements that you do to help give yourself rest for a second, just like with your thumb, you can rest into something and that just gives the rest of your body enough time, you know, before you then engage again. But but that thumb is super engaged. Yeah, something is engaged, something's working, you know, in order to give the rest of the body some rest which is interesting If we think of again, like, thinking of.
Speaker 2:You know, there's my, my nutritionist, who I think that you would love, who actually is now a life coach, who is incredible, who studies I don't know if you know human design. She's really, she's deeply into human design and she's very the the phrase as, as within, so without, as above, so below, hermetic, uh, principles, oh see, yeah, heck, yeah, look at you both. Wow, yeah, I don't know this, but I love that phrase and it's like stayed with me as a way of like, as I even these reflections and how we were able to go from what we've experienced to like, wow, look at what's going on in the world and if we're all one body in a way, you know, it is kind of like oh. And there's another quote. James Baldwin said something like the world is held together by the love of very few people, and it's almost like, yeah, that's really interesting quote, and it makes me think of that metaphor.
Speaker 2:Like if I think about climbing and reaching a really difficult spot and my thumb is the thing that saves me five seconds to rest, it's like it's like all of that. It's like it's like all of that. It's like with what's going on right now. It's kind of like who of this body is the thumb full of love? It's like putting out all that energy to to create some kind of balance for the rest, because so maybe there is like it's like even in the suspension, I don't know, I guess, as I'm talking with you about this, I'm kind of like it's like even in the suspension, I don't know, I guess, as I'm talking with you about this, I'm kind of like man, like maybe there something's got to give and somebody out there, or some of us, or whatever that that whose job is it to figure out what they know that they need to do to allow for some sense of balance for everybody in order to continue.
Speaker 1:You know, it's an interesting I did a podcast, um not too long ago or maybe it was, I don't know if it was a podcaster and I remember it doesn't matter, but I was talking about how, in terms of energy, right fighting like, how do we fight hate, right and destruction and uh seclusion and uh separation, fighting it with hate and anger and seclusion, and and it's just, it's the same thing, it's the same energy. It's not, it's just it's the same thing, it's the same energy.
Speaker 2:It's not. It's not an opposing energy.
Speaker 1:The opposing energy is to find connection. The opposing energy is to find love and acceptance.
Speaker 2:It's love yeah.
Speaker 1:It's love man it all comes back to love. What are you working on right now as an artist?
Speaker 2:my love Ooh a few things, ooh, a few things. So, number one as a photographer, I am making a shift towards really serving actors and trying to merge the world of this. Headshot is a tool that gets you into, you know, the room. You know kind of thing with this headshot is your signature and let's, let's take those two things and let's find an image that does both of that for you, because what I'm hearing more and more in the industry is that people want more of their actual voice, and what I'm hearing is that people need to hear your actual voice in order to get you in the room. That's right, you know and so.
Speaker 2:I'm fascinated with working with actors in a session and facilitating sessions that arrive at that place, that arrive at that place. So that's what I'm working on professionally, career-wise and just generally trying to figure out how to run a freaking business and like I'm learning more. I know right.
Speaker 1:Nobody knows, it's the same thing, just figure it out.
Speaker 2:You figure it out as you go. I have to wish I was starting a girl. What's your?
Speaker 1:website. If people are looking for you, you're in Chicago, right?
Speaker 2:What's your website? If people are looking for you, you're in Chicago. Right, I'm in Chicago, but I do travel. My website is camfrontaincom.
Speaker 1:C-A-M-F-R-O-N-T-A-I-N.
Speaker 2:Dot C-O-M, I'll put it in the show notes as well. Great Perfect.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for chatting with me today. This is fun.
Speaker 2:I feel like we solved a lot of the world's problems today. I mean, yeah, yeah, thanks for having me on and for facilitating a really cool conversation. I appreciate it. Yeah, this is awesome.
