Intuitive Insights: Harnessing the Power of Intuition + Creativity in Everyday Life

Intuition as Your First Sense: A Conversation with Jen Cohen

• Meghan McDonough • Season 3 • Episode 12

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Intuitive consultant Jen Cohen shares how intuition guided her through 27 years in the entertainment industry and led her to become a channeler and coach for individuals and organizations.

• Intuition defined as "the ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning"
• The heart as "the brain of intuition" while the physical brain is "the ruler of the body" 
• How intuition operates from the right hemisphere of the brain, connected to creativity and present-moment awareness
• Why intuition communicates through repetition and whispers rather than loud messages
• The practice of channeling for conflict resolution by connecting with higher selves
• How energy serves as a universal language between people, animals, and across dimensions
• Tips for creating space to receive intuitive messages rather than hunting them down
• The rising importance of intuition as humanity evolves beyond purely cerebral thinking

To learn more about Jen's work as an intuitive consultant, visit JennCohenIntuitive.com or find her on Instagram @jencohenintuitive.


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Speaker 1:

Hello, welcome to Intuitive Insights. I am your host, megan McDonough. I am an intuitive guide and a creativity coach, and today I have with me Jen Cohen. Jen has always been captivated by the power of intuition. After a life-changing experience in her 20s, she explored how intuition could shape her life and her career. During her 27 years in the entertainment industry, jen found that intuitive decisions often led her to success. Now she is an intuitive consultant. She helps individuals and organizations unlock potential, gain, clarity and creativity and purpose in both personal and professional realms. Welcome, jen.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, it's so good to be talking to you.

Speaker 1:

I am so glad we met. I know we chatted a little bit before, but I just felt like very magical us connecting when we first did. But I have a couple of questions I have to ask you at the back. Okay, so what is? Two questions? One is intuition to you and how do you use it in your life. So what is intuition to you?

Speaker 2:

Intuition to me. Yeah, how I define it? I actually like the definition that Webster's gives I think it's actually pretty good which is the ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning. I find that actually very descriptive.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's perfection, and I can't believe I've never looked that up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know that's actually a perfect definition, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so it's how I use intuition, it's how I found my intuition, and we all have intuition. Nobody does not have it. I think of it as our first sense rather than our sixth sense, meh. And through life and through how we grow and through our experiences, culture tends to devalue that intuitive sense, and so, rather than having to learn it again, it's a remembering. That's how I like to think of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would 100% agree with that. So question how did you start this path? How did you start to kind of so in the entertainment world? You were in the marketing, is that correct?

Speaker 2:

I ended in marketing within the financial division, but I started in publicity in the animation division oh, that's right, yeah. And so went through lots of different iterations of what I did in the entertainment industry, which isn't actually all that common. But I attribute to my intuition, because I just followed where my curiosity led me and I never really allowed the critical thinking of the business and the critical minds of the business to place me. Okay, this is where you are, this is where you got to be, this is how you grow and you can never move around in this space. And my intuition was a huge help in not only discovering what fed me and what brought me joy, but meeting the right people along the way, and I would say you and I are a perfect example of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely yeah. Yeah, you just mentioned the word curiosity too, and I use that word a lot because I find curiosity comes from the heart. I call the intuition. The heart is the brain of the intuition. Where the physical brain is the ruler of the body. The heart is the brain of the intuition where the physical brain is, you know, the ruler of the body, the heart is the ruler of the intuitive body. But in order to connect to that you have to be curious, to stay open, you know, and access point to being open as curiosity and following that curiosity.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, absolutely. It's the part of you know, we have two hemispheres of our brain, the left and the right side, but the heart is connected with the right side of our brain, which is the imagination, the creativity, the curiosity. That's where intuition lives and that means that it lives in the present moment. We're in the left side of hemisphere of our brain. That again triggers more of worry in the future or anxiety from the past, and again we need both sides. But we've come to rely as a culture much more on that left side, on that fearful side, on that side that kind of keeps you small and protected and that's outdated through evolution. We really needed that back in the day when there were predators that we were on the lookout for. And intuition has no reason to keep you protected. It's not here for smallness. So that curiosity that we're talking about, it's really magnified through the heart space, because that's love, that's greatness, magnified through the heart space because that's love.

Speaker 1:

That's greatness, that's expansiveness. I don't remember the exact numbers or whatever it is right now, but I do know that the heart chakra is the one that can expand the widest and it can go. It said I remember reading years ago when I was kind of geeking out on beginning my journey on yoga was like if you were on your way to go see a guru right, it was like miles away the energy would shift. You could feel a shift in energy from that person up into them. Yeah, and that's because they had the capability of expand, clearing and expanding their heart chakra that far.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know, when we talk about our aura and that's where that's really resonating from, that's where you tap into that chakra and it can be it can radiate 11 feet, you know, out from you and so. But when you walk into a room and this, this also if, if you know you work in a corporation or it can happen with family, you know you walk into a room or someone comes home and you know their aura or their, you know it's a very distinct feeling of like something's shifted and that means that their heart is probably guarded, closed off, that there's some kind of conflict going on with their intuitive sense and with their critical thinking.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I know you were following your intuition from you know, as you led you through kind of the corporate entertainment world Because, to be honest, the entertainment world is very corporate.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It's very left brain yes.

Speaker 1:

So, as you were being guided through that with your intuition, what was it, if you remember, like specifically, what was that kind of? I call it like the golden thread to pull you forward and out of the space that you were in into the space you are now?

Speaker 2:

I moved from California to Manhattan in my last 10 years and it was a big executive job. There's a lot of pressure and there was a vast polarity between the creative life that I was living in California and the financial side of the house. And that makes sense. And I needed to have that polarity in order to really start to dive into my intuitive sense. Because you know, it's just like anything that you know, unless you experience the opposite, you don't really understand the state that you're in. I spent 10 years and I spent 10 years in that energy and I made a very, very intuitive decision early on. I did not even understand what I was doing, but I made the job bi-coastal, so I made sure that there were shows and people in California that I aligned to, again, intuitively. This was not in the job description, it was New York based. It was New York based and by the end I was two weeks in New York, two weeks in California, two weeks in New York, two weeks in California. And that was my spirit, basically saying no, you need to keep dipping into this. And that was just a slower pace, more nature, less intenseness. And then at the very end, we were, the company was being acquired and and everything you know is kind of shrinking as as everything gets gobbled up and there's a lot of fear, obviously people fearing their jobs, people fearing the change from from regular how television was broadcast to streamers to how content is consumed. And I had a new boss in my last two to three years that was challenging me in a way that I had never been challenged in the business. And I would constantly say out loud and this is for people that are listening this is a real tip or basically sign that your intuition is trying to get a hold of you. When you keep repeating the same story over and over, out loud, that is your intuition saying please pay attention, please pay attention. And so I would continue to say it's like talking to a wall. Talking to these people, it's like talking to a wall. Like to these people, it's like talking to a wall, like there's just nothing coming back to me. And then one day in meditation I had this vision of myself and I was looking myself dead in the eyes and she said to me it's like talking to a wall. And that's when you kind of go palm to the forehead and you're like, ugh, it's me. And from that point on.

Speaker 2:

It was the shift of not being quite the actor in the play or the movie, but having that space and distance to be the audience member and to be seeing what's happening, and then a discernment that comes over and says, oh you know what, I don't have to participate in this way anymore. And so I became an intuitive consultant and it didn't shock a lot of people. I was never really hired for my PowerPoint presentations, you know, it was the way in which I communicated with folks. But when I made that decision and moved back to California, it it opened up. It was it's like the universe was like you're, you're serious about this. Now You've put your place yourself in a place to receive more messages, and that's when the channeling began. That's when, you know, I started my business and I'm still able to work in the entertainment industry, but in a much more fulfilling way than the last couple of years.

Speaker 1:

Now speak to me about the channeling Cause you said you're a channeler Dropping my. That was the. That was the pink quartz.

Speaker 2:

Did it split?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so before that we started here, I'm like my hair is up. Before we started I was like I have to go grab my pink, my rose quartz, for some reason, and as I turn around I go grab my little my thing. I turn around and Jen's like she's got her rose quartz in front of her. I was like that's where it was Okay. So so I guess pink quartz, rose quartz however you want to call it wants to talk about either does or does not want to talk about the channeling.

Speaker 2:

No, it does. It does, and that's from the heart too. The rose quartz is heart. That's what, yeah, that represents. The channeling was fascinating. I love it.

Speaker 2:

I didn't realize how I had been channeling for years, and when I was able to get myself into a place to really understand it, it just came full force. And what had happened is that I had moved into my home in California that I had bought while I was still in New York Again, a very guided, intuitive decision. And it started with automatic writing, where I got the downloads and one evening I filled up three whole journals in four days and it was a blueprint. It was just a blueprint to what I had been doing, to where I was now, to potentially, if this was resonating with me, to where it would take me, and it was no turning back from then. And the more I wrote, the more that I was committed to it. One day I was writing and it just automatic wrote through the channeling okay, now start to speak this. And so then I just started speaking into voice recording and got my first few clients, and it was right on.

Speaker 1:

That's wonderful. So with that channeling would you say that was kind of like higher self kind of coming through or what would you? Channeling that I did was from my dad.

Speaker 2:

And he passed when I was 20. And we had made a pact after he passed that he was just always going to be a protective force for me in my career, yeah. And so it kind of came full circle where he was just like here you go, here's the next phase.

Speaker 1:

Very strong presence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. And so my dad came through and he really taught me, you know, trust that. And so then I started channeling my home, the soul of my home, because it was very much. I would say, you know, it's kind of my Yipre love, it's just, it's just my sanctuary, the quiet that I needed, and there's nature and, yeah, it's just, it's magnificent. And then I would start to channel my higher self and I didn't realize what I was doing, but as I was seeing it on the page, you know it was it's kind of a dream state that you get into and then when you're, when you're writing, it just becomes more and more clear. Those layers, you know, start to come into focus and you can, you can start to see who you're channeling. And then it got to the point where I would sit down and I would say I would like to channel this person, I would like to channel this animal's plants. I use it a lot for conflict resolution.

Speaker 2:

I use it a lot for conflict resolution, and from there it just expanded and it still expands which is the joy of being alive.

Speaker 1:

When you do conflict, are you asking what the soul? I'm just out of curiosity. Are you asking what the soul of one person really wants and what's at the root of the conflict? Or how do you? I'm just curious.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's, it's one of my favorites because it's it's the higher self of whoever's in conflict. And the higher self again, the physical, the 3D version of that person might not have access to that, but but hearing that perspective of the higher self really starts to help that resolution.

Speaker 1:

Yes, very smart. Yes, because when you're overwhelmed with emotion, like I was just talking to someone else the other day about how you know, there hasn't been one person I've talked to about intuition that has said it's the loud, crazy, boisterous voice you can't miss.

Speaker 2:

Like no boisterous voice you can't miss Right, no, no.

Speaker 1:

It's always. It's the quiet voice. And in order to hear that quiet voice, you've got to get still, you've got to get quiet, you've got to support yourself, to be in a space where you can hear that when you're triggered emotionally, your emotions get loud and then it's hard to access that part of self.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Intuition does not often get loud, but it does repeat itself.

Speaker 1:

It does yes, it does repeat itself, and then it influences the energy around you to catch your attention if you're not listening, Exactly, exactly, exactly, if you're not listening.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, Exactly, Exactly the time that I like, whenever I like, if a big like, if an accident happens or something I had. I'll tell you this I had something happen to me in November. I had out of nowhere, out of the blue, you know, I went into the hospital cause I had a pain. I thought I had had a gallbladder thing or something. I didn't know what was happening and it turned out that I had three pulmonary embolisms.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow, and I was like I'm sorry, what you know what I mean? Yeah, and it was very painful and it was very like it was the whole process after has been more of a mind exploration, and so whenever I get a little anxious about it, I kind of check in and what I get is it's about the mind. Meaning, this process is about the mind, yeah, but through that time I kept asking, like what is this, what does this mean? Because this, it felt too faded, you know, it felt too out of nowhere and specific, like it had to happen because there was no reason for it to happen.

Speaker 2:

You, know what I mean, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So I've been, you know, questioning myself, and I haven't gotten a perfect answer yet or a very, you know, succinct one, but the one thing that did come out of it that's pulling me is focusing more on my writing and the things that bring me joy, and that's been the thread that I'm just holding on to and just letting all the other BS go, because I just can't anymore. And maybe that was, maybe that in itself was the message Like, stop focusing on the other crap, just do what you're here to do, you know.

Speaker 2:

Now, that's what I'm hearing, and did you follow through on that?

Speaker 1:

I hope I am, yeah, in some ways, not a hundred percent.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's, that's the process, that's.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but yeah, that's kind of been like my like that I hear on repetition. Yeah, but yeah, that's kind of been like my like that I hear on repetition. That's my little japa, you know kind of the base note japa as I, as I go through the day. It's that kind of like remembering to express from the heart. You know, I've always been. I've always been an artist or creative, you know, and that need to express, that creativity brings me so much joy that when I don't, it makes me feel like I'm dying.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say it sounds ridiculous, but it's true. Oh no, it's your breath.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is, it really is, and literally my breath, you know. Yeah, yeah. And that's what can happen with not listening and accessing this part of yourself. You know, listening to your intuition, your intuition. The only way it gets loud is when it disrupts your life to get you to listen.

Speaker 2:

That's right, and the body follows the mind and the mind follows the breath. And so that makes perfect sense with what you're describing.

Speaker 1:

My yoga teacher used to say and I love this, saying a lot which is the body is to the breath, as the breath is to the mind. So, when you slow down, calm down, focus the body, you can slow down, calm down, focus the breath. Yeah, slow down, calm down.

Speaker 2:

That's right. That's right, and it goes with intuition. Where it's not our job to hunt down our intuition, it's our responsibility to get ourself in a place to receive it.

Speaker 1:

Receive it and trust it too. Like you could have heard all of those messages that you had and not followed through. Like the follow through is the important part, the courage to act.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Because sometimes you hear messages and you're like I don't want to touch that right now.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

That's right, because sometimes you hear messages and you're like I don't want to touch that right now. That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

That feels a little heavy for me, that's right. And it'll never come through heavy. It'll always come through just like a plain stated fact, no emotion attached. Yeah, but you know that it will be heavy to deal with, that's right.

Speaker 2:

That's why you repeat the same phrases over and over in the same stories, and and again. It's all that process, you know, um, it's trusting that, and so, rather than pushing away and saying I don't want to deal with that now, what the kinder way to invite your intuition is is I hear you, I hear you, and it's just a much softer way, and it doesn't mean that you have to jump full force into it right at that moment. It's just an acknowledgement and it's awareness. And then, excuse me, what the universe and your higher self and your team will do is gently place more ways for you to navigate in your path.

Speaker 1:

Right, more support systems for that going forward. Yeah, yeah, I found myself saying that a lot that, okay, I hear you. Yeah, I hear you, not this second, but I hear you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was a meditation I listened to once and it was on Insight Timer. It was a meditation I listened to once and it was on Insight Timer. It was a morning meditation and I can't remember who the woman was who said it, but it was that. It was that on repetition, she said, you know, like, look at yourself and say I hear you, I hear you, and I don't know why, but it just brought tears to my eyes. Yeah, yeah, this was probably well, I know why, because this was at the beginning of my journey. But yeah, it's just being soft with yourself is often hard for some people to do.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, we can be terrible to ourselves, we can be the hardest on ourselves. I mean, if you stop and think about how your mind is talking to you throughout the day, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, especially, like like I would never talk to my daughter that way, right, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Like yeah. Or people. You never talk to people. You love the way you talk to yourself. Hopefully, Right.

Speaker 2:

It's true, it's true. And you know, I I also like to since we're talking rose cords too just place my hand over my heart and say I hear you and you know, it's just, it's just very subtle and it's a beautiful recognition. You know, it's funny. I was thinking the other day. I grew up in a time where in grade school, we would always say the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning. And you put your right hand over your heart and you pledge your allegiance to a very external force at the time. And now I love to take that back in and say no, it's. You know, I'm pledging my allegiance to me first, and then I can serve my community in the most authentic way that doesn't deplete me.

Speaker 1:

Yes, absolutely, it's that whole. You know, you got to fill up your own cup before you pour into others.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. I was going to ask you. So when you work, so you work with both individuals and then also with corporations and so or business. So when you do that, do you have a different style, technique, language that you utilize, or how does that look for you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So individual is very direct, very straightforward. It's meeting them exactly where they're at. If they would like to incorporate channeling in there, we'll channel and we go at the pace of truth, we go at the speed of comfort and it's very conversation like and each week can be different and again it's it's the cadence is is up to the client. I like to, you know, make sure if, if there's, if we're going to be working together for an extended period of time, then it's pretty frequent.

Speaker 2:

And then with businesses, I meet with the leader of the department or the organization and just get a feel for where kind of overall everybody is. And I always start with an intention and the definition of an intention versus a goal and laddering back up to that intention and laddering back up to that intention. And it's fascinating to even just that process right there, because an intention in a group setting, you know, the mission statement, is a little bit different as well. So the intention of the group and then the intention of the individual, and so then we can ladder back up to those and they're of a higher kind of source, energy, that that that's the vibration and the frequency that I bring in. And so anytime that we start veering off of that we can bring, come back up to this higher vibration and you'll notice, or I'll notice very quickly, who in the room is not of a frequency, and that is information that then I'm talking with the leaders about.

Speaker 2:

And usually what will happen is it will unearth maybe a squeaky wheel, maybe the cog in the system, and we can address that. It doesn't mean that that person's let go or fired or whatever. It means that that person might need a different task than they're being assigned. And so we're talking all about energy and I'm feeling into the energy of the group, because if there is a misalignment, it's going to throw things off and we can, you know, within the first hour we can identify it and then we move through, depending on if they're marketing a show. If it's, you know, production that needs cohesiveness. You know if it's a business that's looking to reach their next financial goals, if it's HR issues, we'll take a look at it, and then there'll be practices that we work on together and again it's all about kind of having the coherency of the group through the heart, and that's a very different way of approaching something in the business realm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that's great, and I mean I can see how for sure California and the entertainment business would be in alignment with this In the Midwest. I can see how a lot of people wouldn't understand it but could totally use it. Yeah, you know. Yeah, you were making me think of like, and it kind of goes back to yoga in a way, where they talk about in yoga that the senses are an obstruction to the mind. You know the five senses and so how I see that, though through the lens of intuition, is that like, and almost something to the fact of what you were saying earlier, is that our original senses, our origin senses, are the intuitive. You know all the feels. I call them like the sea feel, was it clairvoyance, clairaudience, like all of the clairs? Right, those are our initial senses and because they're unlimited by location and physical ability, like you can only see so much, you can only hear within a certain amount of distance, you can only feel what's near you, but with the intuitive, or the clairs, it's endless, it's endless.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, because what I'm seeing, like, let's just say, if I see a car on the road, I don't know why five stories about a Subaru that are a thousand percent different than somebody else's, with the Claires that you're talking about, with intuition, it is a universal kind of knowing. It is tapping into a collective. It is not. Again, the conscious reasoning is not needed in order to identify it. And I'll just say one of the tactics that I talk about with because there are there's lots of businesses that are like I do not, there's different levels is I'll start out with, when I'm talking about coherence, like kind of clapping and like, okay, follow me with this clapping, and like everyone can kind of do that beat, and then I say, okay, now follow me, and I'll go really fast and kind of touch all different and snap and blah, blah, blah, blah and everyone's like, huh, I'm like there's no way, and so that is just a very physical, instant way of seeing.

Speaker 2:

This is where our heart coherence is. If you've ever been around a horse or a pet, I'll go to that as well. That's the coherence. A horse is not going to be in your presence if you are anxious, if you are worried, if you are scared. But once you calm your senses down with your breath and tap into that heart space, that horse will come up and eat out of the palm of your hand.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's bringing in those.

Speaker 1:

It's the same. I was actually thinking about that too the other day that I've always, oh God, I remember when I was a kid and I was like singing, just I was making up songs I was pretty sure going to be like noticed on my block at spring. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Totally yes.

Speaker 1:

Making up a song about the dogs on the street, and so I was singing and like I was singing to the squirrel who's running up the tree, and then like the dog came over and the squirrel was staying with me, but then the dog was barking and I remember this and I remember my mom like coming out. She's like, would you just shut up and get in the car? Do you know what I mean? Like yeah, and I was like mom, they hear me, they're singing with me, like we're communicating, it's out of a Disney movie Totally.

Speaker 1:

She was like shut up, get in the car, we gotta go. I was like no, I'm sorry, I have to go Concert's over.

Speaker 2:

But yes, exactly Exactly, because, that's you know, they're pure love, they're pure love.

Speaker 1:

And pure energy, like if I saw. If I see a dog or an animal, whatever and they're they have a heightened response to me. You know whether it's because they have anxiety and they're angry or whatever it is, you know, but if they don't turn it around quickly, I literally go home and I'm like I got to meditate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Something's off in me.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Right, you know, same with babies. Babies are the same Same.

Speaker 2:

Same yeah yes. Same Same yeah yes.

Speaker 1:

And there's something so special when you can connect to people you don't share a common language with yeah, but you do in a way, because the common language is energy.

Speaker 2:

That's right. That's right, absolutely. That's beautiful. I love that.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that. So, jen, how can people find you and who specifically are you working with or wanting to work with? How do people get to you?

Speaker 2:

Sure, yeah. First of all, I'd love to hear from you. I could talk about this for hours, so if anyone has any questions, my website's probably the best. It's Jen with two N's J-E-N-N Cohen, c-o-h-e-n intuitive. My email's there as well, and then on Instagram it's Jen Cohen, intuitive, and I work with people, with all types of people, all age ranges. It doesn't have to be about your work. It can be about just where you are in life, wherever that is. We talked about conflict resolution. Even if you just want to get in touch with someone, maybe that has passed or is still on this earth, we can connect with them to support you and guide you on any questions that you may have. And then, of course, corporations and businesses. I'm here for that as well.

Speaker 1:

I love that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Then I'll make sure to put it in the show notes as well, all that information. I had a thought while you were saying that and I think it escaped. Oh yeah, I was going to say that you know, or just people who are looking for a guide, you know, to help see to that higher vibration.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Because it does feel like. I mean, I know there's a lot of talk on all the socials about the 5D evolution and moving up and, honestly, I've heard that a lot, I've seen it a lot and I've been like I get it, I feel it, what the heck are they talking about? And I've been like I get it, I feel it, what the heck are they talking about? But, honestly, our conversation today, I feel like, is exactly what they're talking about that people are coming away from this cerebral place, this needing to know all the kinks and work it all out. That served an older evolution of man and we're actually moving into the higher evolution of man, where we need the special skill of listening and following our intuition. And I feel like that's why you and I are called to this service to others, to share like. This is how you do it, this is how you get there, you know.

Speaker 2:

Cannot have said it better Absolutely, absolutely. And we're bringing in more of the feminine traits Doesn't mean that all of the masculine goes out the window. That's not at all it. It's just a balance the masculine has really.

Speaker 1:

It's taken over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, taken over, and we're seeing that change rapidly.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and just like how anything levels up, there's a big ass explosion before it's the next level, absolutely so we're kind of. We're really it's like the biggest challenge comes before the next evolution up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and there's such a more peaceful way for us to maneuver through it. Yeah yes, there is, and our intuition is begging for us to say we'll help you.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't know how many people I've talked to and it's like we're afraid to say we're intuitive, or if they're coming in for reading, they're afraid for the reading and I'm like why? Yeah, your soul is beautiful. It's just being covered up with some stuff that needs to be looked at and either let go or transformed. That's it.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

You know, and so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

That fear is coming from the time that we were just talking about. Yes, we were just talking about. It was seen as dangerous by those that wanted to tap that down, that wanted to have the patriarchal age that we were in and the way in which that worked.

Speaker 1:

Intuition did not fit in to that. No, because intuition is a stronger power than consciousness and I know like yeah, yeah yeah and it's.

Speaker 1:

I have a whole theory about that with like the salem witch trials and and it's almost as though they put, they've turned intuition into an ugly thing and they've turned our so to the two major beautiful things about being female in this female form, or of female relating to feminine energy is the massive it's like we're just more open to the intuition Doesn't mean that it has to be female, but we're just naturally more open to it and the ability to web together and support each other and rise up. So they pinned us against each other and we've gotten to catty places and competitive weird crap. That's all masculine.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that turned the intuition into something you know evil, and it's not. It's absolutely beautiful and one of the most amazing things we can do as women and we do do as women is to support each other. That's right.

Speaker 2:

That's right, because any time that we're judging another woman, we're so judging ourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and we cause separation.

Speaker 2:

then that's right. That's right, and the separation is external. But where our intuition is really trying to tell us is the separation is internal. And so, coming back to where those stories were birthed, because we did not come into this world with them.

Speaker 1:

No, we didn't.

Speaker 2:

And so that's the beautiful untethering.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, I am so. My heart is like crying. I'm so happy to have met you and I'm just going to say we are staying in touch.

Speaker 2:

No, matter what, absolutely, there's no doubt. There's no doubt, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for joining me today and thank you all for joining and listening, and I'll put all of Jen's information in the show notes and please feel free to reach out her or me and make some magic today. Big buckets of love.

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