Intuitive Insights: Inspiring Stories and Intuitive Tools for the Creative Soul
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Intuitive Insights: Inspiring Stories and Intuitive Tools for the Creative Soul
Your Intuition Is Not a Superpower, It's Your Birthright; Conversation with William FitzRoy
William Fitzroy, founder of Art of the Seer Academy, discusses how intuition is not a superpower but our "original power" that connects us to our authentic selves and the world around us.
• Intuition as our original power rather than a superpower, something foundational rather than extraordinary
• The importance of body awareness in intuitive development, challenging the purely spiritual view of intuition
• How childhood experiences often reveal natural intuitive abilities we later disconnect from
• The value of maintaining a foot in both intuitive and professional worlds
• Using intuitive skills in everyday work environments to read energy and adjust communications accordingly
• Finding the right teacher and trusting the process, even when it feels uncomfortable
• The "Path of the Mystic" program helping people reconnect with their core self after outgrowing old patterns
• How spiritual growth has accelerated, with people experiencing multiple lifetimes of development in one life
• The connection between artistic expression and intuitive abilities
Visit Art of the Seer Academy at artoftheseer.academy to learn more about William's programs and teachings.
To receive your own personal Intuitive Soul Reading and personalized workbook visit: https://magnetizeyourlight.com/intuition
Hello, welcome to Intuitive Insights. I'm your host, megan McDonough, and today I have with me a very inspiring intuitive guest. This is William Fitzroy. William is not your typical. I'm just going to tell you. He's not your typical spiritual person. Okay, he is equal parts mystic, pragmatist and channel and strategist. Say that five times fast. He walks the line between the ancient and the modern with grace and grit one of my favorite words and a little irreverent humor also my favorite. He is the founder of Art of the Seer Academy. Has been a trusted guide for those ready to deepen their psychic awareness, reconnect with their spiritual gifts and step into their intuitive power without it's the most important part losing their sense of humor or grounding in the everyday world. Welcome, william.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it's so nice to be here and thanks for that lovely introduction.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad we met. I'm just really excited about this conversation with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1:I have a couple of questions to ask you, and then we're going to just see where we go. I love it. We're going to intuitively flow with this conversation. So the first question being how do you define intuition? What is your, you know? How do you have a specific way that you define it for yourself or others, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:I love, I care, I I just heard this recently and I'm gonna I'm gonna steal it from whoever said it or wrote it that I read, and I don't know who that was, so I apologize for not having uh credit where credit is due, but I've for long time I thought I was just talking about it as like your superpower, you know, and how, like everybody has their own superpowers and like you know, when you talk about being intuitive or being psychic or being sensitive, it's like so relatable in that way of like everybody has their own unique superpower way of doing it. But I read somewhere recently, recently somebody said being psychic or intuitive is not a superpower, it's your original power. I loved that that is it.
Speaker 1:That is so I've started saying that more often now, and um to me that really speaks to that.
Speaker 2:accessing or tapping into your intuition is about something that's so original to you that it's not super, it's foundational. It's like it's the core of you in a certain way.
Speaker 1:Right, because we come in to this world armed with that, you know, intuition of where to get food and to scream and to cry and to go to the bathroom, and it's like it's all just. It's just all innate, you know.
Speaker 2:Um, yes, I love that, I absolutely I love it and I do think, like the other thing I'll add to that is like I think it that speaks, in a way, to the body being a part of intuition, which, very specifically, is like oftentimes in spiritual spaces particularly, I think people tend to focus on spiritual intuition or the intuition of spirit and disregard the conversation that happens between body and spirit.
Speaker 1:to give you those insights or those hits right, yeah, yes, because the mind gets in the way, because it becomes this, becomes this like cerebral, esoteric thing outside of self, when really it's really grounded in the heart space and the emotional space and then amplifies in the physical body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I've had clients, you know, like the haters, the like, the like, the prove it people which I love, like be like you're just reading body language and I'm like well, yeah, and I'm really good at it so like isn't that intuition to like why? Why does saying like that's just your body being sensitive, like? Why does that dismiss it in some way? That, just sort of to me, heightens the conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, it's just yes, it's just um, it's supplementing it, right, because like, I mean like things. Yes, I agree with that. There is a part of it that's body language and that's to kind of pick up and like is this res? Are we? Are we in resonance together? Yeah, you know. But then there's things that like come up and you're like I'm seeing a red ball in your living room. You know, I, I'm like I have no idea where that's coming from. They're like well, I have a red ball in my living room, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:And it's like you're like okay, well, where did that come from then?
Speaker 2:You know, Right, and it's just different layers of listening. Yeah, and like, if I'm you know, if I'm working a red ball in your living room, well, how does that red ball make me feel? As the reader Right Gives me a whole bunch of information about what I'm seeing. That is specific to me and my experience in the body. That may be different than the person I'm reading. Anyway, I'm starting to go a little deeper than you do no, no, no.
Speaker 1:We can continue with this, because the next question, essentially, is how do you use it in your life? And we're already there, so let's just keep rolling. But I will get back to the origin story. You know as a psychic, but yes, I was going to say that I have this, saying that or saying, but an analogy of when I'm reading someone, that it's like you know how you look through a pane of glass at someone else. You know, and you see your reflection a little bit, but you're looking at the other person it's mostly them, but you get a little bit of your reflection. It's like whatever messages are coming from from and for them, for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There's also a little something, little nugget in there for you too, you know, to pick up on yeah, and that's you know, the benefit of psychic training, or, like you know learning tools or working with a teacher. You know, like, whatever you want to frame that, developing it as a skill. There's this old, uh anecdote that I love, or like story or joke, I don't know, it's like an old old story about.
Speaker 2:There was like a farmer, a farmer and his wife, and every morning the farmer's wife went down to the kitchen and, would you know, wash the dishes at the sink and look out the window at the neighbor's clothesline. And the clothes were all filthy on the clothesline. And she was like, oh my gosh, the neighbor is so bad at washing her clothes. Look at those dirty clothes on that clothesline. And then one day the farmer went out and looked and the window was dirty, the clothes weren't dirty.
Speaker 1:That's brilliant.
Speaker 2:Right. So in that story I think that's like such a great illustration of like sure you're always seeing from yourself and from your own perspective, and from your own perspective, and that's why you would train or develop your abilities like a skill, because you have to sort of decondition and deprogram some of that but the dirt on your own window yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's a separate thing than what I was saying, but also relative meaning, like, like yes, before you can see for others, you have to clear the shit from your your well, you know whatever gook from your own window, yeah, but even when the window is clear, there's always a lesson in there.
Speaker 2:There's always, and the clearer your window yeah the more you can see your own reflection in it. Truth so. Okay, works for both parties.
Speaker 1:It works for everything, okay, so let's let's talk about how. So is this so as an intuitive, well clairvoyant and um?
Speaker 2:I don't know, people get so I don't know. Psychic, I like psychic, I still like psychic. No, your labels. Psychic, I like psychic, I still like psychic.
Speaker 1:You know some people don't. Yeah, I know I. I have an aversion to the word and I don't know what. Maybe it's because it feels like it gives me, it puts I don't know, I have I have excuses for why um, meaning that it feels to me personally. It feels like it brings fear into the equation for me, um, which I don't want in the equation at all, for me or for others first. But a lot of people don't know what to do with intuitive either.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know, if you look historically, I think the sensitives and whatever sensitive yeah whatever word you're going to use, it's true, we inhabit a word and then we leave it behind for a new word, and I think psychic was the word for a while, and then, yeah, it would have seemed softer or a little more palatable to modern audiences. So it's moving there, but we were called many other things, you know, 100 years ago, that weren't even those ones.
Speaker 1:So like I think it's like we're constantly evolving into new pictures so how did you, what was your process, your evolution, in tapping into these original powers of self?
Speaker 2:I came to this work a total mess, just like a disaster of a human being, yeah, and I never thought that I like I never would have thought I was intuitive or psychic or even sensitive to energy. I was really creative and highly imaginative. As a child I was very involved in like the arts and in theater and music and singing, and I think that was like a safe space and a rest fit from everything I was sensitive to in the world. It was like I was finding the way people could express to in the world. It was like I was finding the way people could express, and so I heavily involved in that in my childhood and then into um, all the way through undergrad really. And then it was when I graduated college and moved to the city and sort of the structures that I had operated in academically, socially, um, creatively, kind of fell away, that I was like very vulnerable and exposed in a way, yeah, that I didn't have the tools and the um, uh vocabulary in order to like really understand what I was going through and processing in being sensitive to energy, whole spaces, um, and very quickly, like within you know, two or three years, it kind of I was overrun. I just like I was a mess. I was a total disaster, yeah, and had no sense. I had completely lost my sense of self and I was really desperate for some help and I tried a bunch of different things, as people do. Uh, and I had a roommate at the time who took a like a meditative embodiment class and she, I remember she came home from like the first class and she was like I was like, how was it? And she's like I didn't like it. She's like, but I think you would love it. And I was like, really, and she's like, yeah, she's like, yeah, she's like I think you need to go take this class. Um, and then a couple of weeks later, I signed up for a class at the same place and, um, and I did, I loved it.
Speaker 2:Uh, I remember being at break. It was like a two hour class and there was like a break after the first hour and I went up to the instructor and I just I was like I have no idea what this is, I and I don't even understand what you're saying, but I've been like, whatever this is, I've been waiting for this my whole life. Like this is the thing that no one has taught me, that I've been waiting to learn and he kind of just smiled a little bit and, you know, was kind of like, yeah, that's kind of how it tends to go, and then from there I just like dove deep into it and it's become a significant part of my life ever since.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that feeling is like I had that feeling when I had gone away from this is before I started my training, you know. But I'd always had, I'd always had that kind of connection. First it was like always dreams, and then it was like I could kind like always dreams, and then it was like I could kind of read people and then it became like a party favor. You know where I was like psychic megan after a few glasses of wine came out, you know and I'd love to meet psychic megan she was always right, but I could only read the people she heard.
Speaker 1:You know, like, if you come up to like people, come up to me and be like, oh, give, give me everything, give me. I was like because I didn't really know what I was doing, I was just kind of listening to what I heard and I didn't know how to, I didn't have any technique, so, but then I got away from it because I didn't have the technique it started to scare me. I didn't understand it and I and I never wanted to hurt people emotionally or otherwise by saying the wrong thing or not knowing how to see things in a light that was always beneficial, because I believe everything is. But I didn't know how to communicate that. So I put Psychic Megan out to the curb for a while and then I just it was kind of and it was in the same space where I just like I just didn't recognize myself. I didn't like myself, like physically, emotionally, personality. I'm like who is this, you know, imposter here? And then I was turned on to a class this you know friend of mine was doing and um, and then from the first meditation I had this like oh, right I'm home yeah
Speaker 2:I'm back home yeah, it's, isn't it funny, I think. I think every psychic I've ever met has a similar story of being alienated from themselves for a while, and I think I almost think that's necessary at this point, like when I consider someone and their journey, like I think that alienation, or putting that part of yourself away, is actually part of the process. Like you have to kind of go away from it in order to like come back to it on your own terms in some way yeah similar to you, like I like even looking back at my childhood.
Speaker 2:um, I used to play this game when I was a kid, probably like six, seven, eight, um where I'd be sitting in the back seat of my parents car and I would um, I, I would it's gonna make no sense, but I would, um, in my hair, I would compare people in their cars, like I was like looking at people in their car, and then I would be like, oh, that person's like my aunt, even though it was like a male and like not, what I was doing was reading their energy, and I was like, oh, that person is like this person and like I don't even. I just have such a vivid memory of doing things like that and not under?
Speaker 1:Did you ever go like when you're in the car and you looked in other people's cars? Were you ever like try and put your energy inside their car to get the feeling?
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, all the time and then sometimes you'd be like, oh, this is too weird, I got to go. Yeah, like you're projecting your energy in there to kind of feel it out, and then you're like, ooh. Or it would always surprise me when the energy was not what I thought it was going to be, you know.
Speaker 2:I remember similar to that, like laying in bed and like astral projecting. I mean, I wouldn't have called it that at the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, astral projecting. I mean, I wouldn't have called it that at the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course yeah, I would be laying in bed. You know, again like seven, eight, nine years old and going to visit, visit my friends in their house oh, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, like all the time. It's so funny. I'm like, of course you did yeah right.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think.
Speaker 1:I don't think everyone does that, megan, I think but yeah, totally, you know, yeah, yeah, or I do that, I've done that, still do, sometimes Not as much anymore, because I'm like what's the point of it? But I do that with people I pass on the street, I don't know, and then I don't know, I'm not sure if that's part of the actor self or the intuitive self or the combination of the two, where I'm like what is their living room like and I just kind of like feel into it. But all of a sudden I'm like you know, like what is the world in which this person's energy is swimming? You know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we're like reading people all the time.
Speaker 1:And I think most people are and don't have the vocabulary or the framework around that yeah, and I mean, like you said, the beginning, the origin power like this is the origin power, the source powers like I. I feel that the um, that the sixth sense, you or senses, are the origin senses, and what confuses us in this world is the tangible, the physical, that's the maya, that's the illusion of this world, is that the permanence is in the impermanent tangible.
Speaker 2:when the permanence is in the impermanent tangible, when the permanence is really in the unseen, infinite exactly that is why I also consider myself a strategist and a pragmatist, because because the one gift that I was given by a teacher early on in my journey into being psychic and identifying as a psychic or as a sensitive was I was counseled to not give up my day job and I didn't. And because of that, alongside my journey of personal development and then also my journey of creating spaces for other people to be given that same path, you know, on their terms, it through our this year academy and other other places that I've taught and done psychic work I've maintained this foot in the real world, did not give that up, and I know a lot of people and I don't think that's everybody's answer and I'm not here to tell anybody.
Speaker 1:No, and it's actually I appreciate you saying that too, because I mean, in a sense, that's like you know, I've decided to be an artist.
Speaker 2:You know it's like, yeah, but you don't quit your day job until you you know. So the gift that that has given me is number one a really interesting playground as I develop my own tools and continue to develop them. Um, that I have a place where I can do that, where no one knows I'm doing it and I'm kind of not in competition with anybody and I get to just kind of play, which is work, um, which has been a very fertile ground for that. Um. Also, I've been able, luckily, to have a very successful professional career alongside all my psychic work, which has been a very fertile ground for that Also. I've been able, luckily, to have a very successful professional career alongside all my psychic work, which has enabled a certain life that makes me feel very comfortable in exploring that rather than relying on it for my livelihood, right, which puts it on. But then also I'm on Slack every day with my clients and my colleagues, like I work at a creative agency. So it's like you know, everything's up here all the time.
Speaker 1:It's like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Crazy, to be honest with you. It's like an insane amount of energy and like I know what it's like to be in those spaces, which I think oftentimes a lot of my students that come to me for sessions or for classes are in those spaces now. And so, because I've stayed in that for the last 20 years and didn't abdicate that to just be on the mountaintop like a you know mystic guru, right, they come to me and I'm like, yes, slack sucks. Let me tell you how to like have your space with slack and how to work the energy of concentration through technology, like I know every day in real time, like what that does, and how to sort of work with that in your life.
Speaker 1:So, um, so what are the things that you so as? So? That is very unique to have the one foot in the real world, quote, unquote, and then the other in the spiritual um and and and be active in both, you know, um. So what are some like? Well, first of all, how do you use this, the spiritual part of yourself, this clairvoyant, intuitive, psychic part of self, in your everyday life? You, you know, in the real world, life, and what are some of the? I mean, are there some like, are they all specific, or is there some quick, general go-tos that you could, you know, give to the people who aren't totally into the psychic, you know uh, part, but but also kind of want to start to explore their spiritual self? You know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I talk, I talk a lot about with, particularly with new students at the Academy. I talk like a lot of people come in and they're like I just want to be, like this is very common. They're like I just want to be really clear. I don't want to be a professional reader and I'm like good. I'm like good, like world doesn't need more professional readers. I'm sorry, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2:What the world needs is people that are awake and aware and using their tools in their life, whatever that means.
Speaker 2:And for some people that might mean giving professional readings or things because that's their passion, but for most people I think it's like just bringing that awareness back and into your day-to-day.
Speaker 2:So when I look at like how I use this at work, I'm I'm reading energy all the time. I have a, I have a colleague that um has daddy issues, so I know that if I go into a meeting with this colleague and I come from a place of authority, she's gonna have a problem with me, and so I adjust my energy to not be in that when I'm working with her, in as much as I can, right, like perfect. But I can adjust and change the energy of my interaction and my communication to, to sort of meet her where she's at so she doesn't get triggered. And then I have another colleague that, like, is the flip of that right? Or my clients that, like I know, prefer specific energies or get triggered by specific things. Right, you can sort of shape, shift and change the energy in your own space in order to, like, make it work for you and for them, and so it's a win-win yeah, absolutely I also I freak my colleagues out because, um, you know like we had a new business opportunity to come into the agency.
Speaker 2:We're all working on this pitch and you know, from day one I was like there's no way we're winning this I was like yeah, I was like this is not gonna happen. Yeah, and everybody's like no rah, rah, we're gonna. And the whole time I was like I'm giving this 50 because, like this, it's not gonna happen. And then it didn't happen and everybody was like I think you were right and and I was like I know I was right. I'm always right. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I'm psychic, excuse me.
Speaker 2:I, you know, have. I'm speaking in jest, really there, but what I'm saying is like you can read the energy of things and decide what deserves your attention and what doesn't, what deserves more of your attention or less. Like you start to be able to manage your own energy and engagement with things, because, fundamentally, being intuitive or being psychic is about learning how to read yourself, first and foremost, and doing it for other people is the cherry on top. At least that's my perspective. No-transcript, some external authority?
Speaker 2:um, there's a lack of trust yes and so I think the most important decision you can make is picking a teacher and just trusting them, and it doesn't have to be forever. That's what we forget about. Trust is that trust and choosing doesn't have to be forever. So I think it's important to find a person that you like or that seems like this feels right, you know, and letting it be right for a while, even if it stimulates you in ways that are uncomfortable or feel awkward, because a good teacher and a good process are going to stimulate you in ways that feel uncomfortable and awkward.
Speaker 2:That's what learning is, yeah, and so often and I again I experience this for myself it's like you end up kind of trying a little bit of everything but not actually trusting anything or trusting yourself in it, and so you miss out on the depth of what having a relationship to yourself in that situation or experience can be, and so that's like whenever I meet a new student, that's the first thing I'm like do you feel like you can trust me for for a little bit, for a, a year, for six months? Yeah, just a little time, because I think I might have something to offer you, but you're going to have to trust that. It's going to be uncomfortable, it's going to get weird and it's going to light you up in certain ways, and that is what you're here for.
Speaker 1:That's beautiful and I'm just going to go on a limb. I would assume that would be what you would tell the lay person as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you know, it's supposed to be fun. Yes, right, so you know so every now and then you get somebody who's like I don't know. I want to get a reading, but like I don't know, prove it.
Speaker 1:Or like you know yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I remember one side somebody's thinking about signing up for like a year long training and they were like they asked me. It was the funny that they were like what's your uh, what's the career placement success rate for psychics after your training? And I was like I don't know, like what, I don't, it's my roi, I don't. Yeah, like that's weird. I was like you're gonna have a good time and like maybe pick up some skills that you can use. About being sensitive, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's supposed to be fun. So like it's just an experience, like just allow yourself to have an experience without needing to prove it or justify the resources it takes to be in the experience until afterwards when you can process it. Experiencing something and processing something are two different things. Right, so it takes trust and like fun, like have I don't know, it's weird, take a psychic class. I know, right, maybe you hate it. Well, that was, you know, a couple weeks, you're like back but like, maybe you met some cool people.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, and you have a new way of listening to things. I mean, I feel like that's it's just another layer of listening. You know visual, audio, emotional. You know, and then figuring out how you communicate with that part of yourself, like you were saying earlier, you know when you see something. You know if you see the red ball, what does the red ball make you feel and how do you interpret that for them and what it might mean or what it's coming to show you or whatever.
Speaker 2:And also maybe it's not for you, I don't know. I like I know people in like run clubs. Yeah, it sounds like hell. I like I don't want. I only run when I'm a. I only run when chased is what I say. Nobody's chasing me. I don't ever want to go run for fun. So like I'm not going to go join a run club and then be unhappy the whole time that I'm in the run club or make the runners prove why I should be in the run club. Right, no responsibility for you not liking it, right? Yeah, when you start to contextualize it like it's really the same as anything else, yeah, anything special. Like maybe it's not for you and maybe you want to try it and it's really the same as anything else, yeah, anything special.
Speaker 1:Like maybe it's not for you and maybe you want to try it and it's like no, this isn't for me, that's cool, but maybe it is for other people having said that, I do feel like we all have that original sense, you know, but like playing basketball I don't know if I use this with you, this analogy, but, like some, some people are innately athletic, you know, and they're tall and they it's basketball is the game for them you know we could all play basketball we all did in grade school but we're all not going to be a pro player and some of us will continue to play unprofessionally and some of us will just say no thanks.
Speaker 2:I also know like people who are really tall that would be good at basketball. That just don't like basketball. And they don't like basketball and they just don't want to do it, and that's fine too, you know. So that's again that body spirit, like you know what's your. It's funny you use that as your example, because I use swimming, because I would say most people you can like throw them in the water and they'll like figure it out, yeah, but if you want to be an olympic swimmer, like you need a name and you need a coach, and you need a regiment and you need tools and you need to practice right, that's right you said that and I thought of my mother telling me how she taught me how to swim.
Speaker 1:I just threw you in the pool.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:She was like you, were like a month old, I don't know. I was like, oh my God, thanks Mom. It's like the sounds. She's like what you swam. I'm like what, jesus Christ. The 80s were different.
Speaker 2:We're lucky, we survived it all.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I mean, yeah, now it's like you gotta be part of a epic gym with like 5 000 lanes and different levels and you know, I mean it's good, it gets the kids to swim. But like once they started asking if we wanted to do butterfly, we're like, okay, we're done, it's not this is not we're good.
Speaker 1:We're good, you know we've accomplished the mission. The kid can swim. We're done with the factory, you know. So your program, you're so. You, you mentioned you have a year-long program, and so are you just committed to to working with people who are, like, really into wanting to do this or learn skills for themselves, meaning that they're ready to commit to you for like six months a year.
Speaker 2:We're at yeah, so at the academy we have, um, we have a faculty of six, six people right now that um are sort of working with and around me. Um, some of them are just old friends that I've been doing psychic stuff with for a long time. Some of them are some students that just really love it and like stepped into wanting to teach for themselves. Um, so we offer like short-term classes, like drop in style workshops and stuff like that, very a la carte, like whatever.
Speaker 2:Um, and then I personally teach a 15 month training uh called Path of the Mystic Um, and I can go into more about that if you want. And then uh, a two year training on mediumship called Art of the Oracle Um, and those are just longer commitments that are um about specific tool sets and specific ways of working as a psychic yeah, talk to me, what are they? Yeah, so Path of the Mystic is actually my favorite.
Speaker 2:It's my favorite thing that I've ever created to be honest in my life of yourself, because one of the things that I have found in reading people is that what's happening is it used to be that you would live your whole life, or perhaps several lifetimes in succession, in a certain set of pictures, like solving certain problems or being in certain kinds of relationships or like whatever. And I know you read past life stuff too, so like you, you know like this is my theme and for the next four lifetimes I'm kind of like working on this stuff. Right. Yeah, what's happened and I don't really know why, but what I've noticed happening is that all that is sped up. So people are now having the amount of spiritual growth in a single lifetime that they used to have in four or five lifetimes, and so outgrowing structures of energy and pictures and challenges or problems, or even outgrowing karma faster than we used to in a lifetime.
Speaker 2:What I started to see in people that I was reading was people were getting to their like late 20s, early 30s, mid 30s and what they had done was like exhausted all possibility in their life and they were hitting up against a wall of like I don't know what to do is like blow it all up and start again with a whole new set of pictures or a whole new set of structures in your reality. So this training, the way I think about it is, um, it's like a hedge maze or like a labyrinth, yeah, yeah. And if you think of a lifetime as like the path of walking the labyrinth and like there's dead ends and you got to turn around and like you know, blah, um, or like a mouse trying to get to cheese in a maze you know, like what this training really does is gets you to the center of that hedge maze or that labyrinth, and what's at the center is nothing.
Speaker 2:It's you right, like that's what's at the end of the path is you. And then from there, what you can do is actually blow up that whole picture and start from a whole new maze, or a whole new set of pictures. And so, uh, the 15 month curriculum. What it does is it takes you on a guided journey to kind of shed all that stuff that's out of date and like doesn't have any relevance to you at this time, and then get you back to the core of you and then like sort of give you a jump start and sort of a whole new life. Really, sometimes that means a new career, sometimes it means new relationships, sometimes that means, um, new perspectives, or yeah I mean. But then also sometimes it's like you don't have to change anything in your 3D reality.
Speaker 1:Right, it's just like an energetic shift.
Speaker 2:It's just like now, all of a sudden, you're different in all that and so it can be different and I just like I love it because that kind of a journey was very impactful for me. But it's so gratifying to watch people reconnect to their center, at the core, um, and then start on a whole new adventure like I just find that so exciting yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So to answer your question, like that's where, like what I teach is, like it's about being psychic and learning how to read clairvoyantly and be a medium and all this stuff. But like doing that for other people is secondary to the sort of inner journey of reclaiming those gifts as a core part of who you are and letting that transform your life.
Speaker 1:Right, right, because also those I don't know if you found this too that when the lesson or whatever it is comes from internally versus externally, it just resonates deeper and shifts more, Like when you take somebody through it versus like learning something cerebral when you learn it intuitively. When it comes to you intuitively, it's like okay, lesson learned, check mark, move on. You know there's no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, isn't it funny how? So? I think it's very common in psychic practices that people sort of abdicate the self in the reading or in the channeling and it's like, well, I don't know, the message that's coming through is this and like I don't know, I'm not responsible, it's just what's coming through. I don't know, I'm not responsible, it's just, it's just what's coming through. What you're saying is like to me correlates to what I find to be more true in a reading where I'm like, well, this is what's coming through. Here's how that attaches to me. And then here's how I deliver both of those things to you, not just what is coming through, but like my own perspective on that as well, and that's like to me, that as well, and that's like to me. That's like that's when it gets really good that's the art of it yes, yeah, and it is.
Speaker 2:You know, I think, and I know you have a theater background as well. Like you know, I trained as a theater director, um, and was heavily involved in theater. And when I talk about theater and acting in terms of psychic terms, I'm talking about the art of acting, not celebrity acting. You know, like, because I always say actors and I could just see people being like you mean the kardashians, and I'm like no, that's not the kind of actors I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about the youtube star yeah, right, it's like leaving my tiktoker yeah, no, something different than that, um, but I do think that's part of that journey as a real artist is developing your own voice, right, whether that's visual art or music, or being an actor on stage, a dancer, which is being a channel 100 right, yeah, so I.
Speaker 2:This is where I find that my training as an artist in the performing arts has really informed how I train people to be an intuitive and a psychic. Yes, what is that? My cats? I have like this chase toy for my cats and it just like just turned on on its own.
Speaker 1:It sounded like he was like money, money and just like throw a coin.
Speaker 2:The spirits are restless in my living room at the moment. I'm stirring some stuff up, but yeah, they like. I feel like that has given me a very unique job. I'm teaching psychics. Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it's. I have this, a new platform I'm on right now, which is the. You know, artists are energy alchemists, you know, and healers are the same, Like you know, the shamans were the artists and the healers of the tribe and that's what I mean when I say like we've gone by so many different names yeah right, so it just keeps evolving and pick the one that works for you yeah, is there any um when?
Speaker 1:when do your classes? They have a set time when they start the programs uh, yeah, the longer ones uh start quarterly.
Speaker 2:Uh, we just I just started uh classes for the path of the mystic and then, um, my two-year mediumship. Uh training just started, uh this past weekend. Enrollment's still open for the next month. I don't know when this will be posted, but if people want to check it out um, and then the next ones will be in january and then in july, and then you know like.
Speaker 1:So we kind of go wonderful and and it's the art of the seer dot academy, yes is that right? Yeah well, thank you so much, william, for joining me. Thank you for having me. This was this is so fun.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad we found each other yeah, I've really enjoyed connecting with you and, uh, thanks for having me on your show. Yeah, we'll.
Speaker 1:We'll do more, all right. All right, thank you all for joining and I will put all of William's information in the show notes. Have a magical day, thank you.
