Intuitive Insights: Inspiring Stories and Intuitive Tools for the Creative Soul
Welcome to Intuitive Insights. I’m Meghan—your no-BS woo-woo coach. Every other week, I share practical spiritual tools, creative inspiration, and explore meaningful conversations that show intuition is less crystal ball and more compass. Together, we’ll navigate how intuition shows up in everyday life, how it shapes purpose, and the practices that help us live more connected, creative, and soul-aligned.
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Intuitive Insights: Inspiring Stories and Intuitive Tools for the Creative Soul
From Empath To Artist: Reclaiming Intuition Through Creativity
What if the most reliable guidance you’ll ever hear is the voice you’ve been taught to ignore? We sit down with multidisciplinary artist and intuitive reader Dana Zarowski to unpack the difference between empathy, people pleasing, and true intuition—and how creativity can be the bridge back to yourself.
Dana shares how years of absorbing other people’s emotions layered over her own voice like clear glue. She walks us through the painstaking work of naming judgments, meeting each version of herself with compassion, and learning to trust quiet signals without chasing validation. We connect the dots between art and awareness—how painting to music became a moving meditation that calmed the nervous system, softened inner noise, and turned intuition from potential into action.
We also explore why nature restores our breath and focus, why solitude is not loneliness, and how discernment protects creative energy. Dana opens her tarot process—using “jumper” cards and real-time impressions—to show how divination can be a safe, grounded mirror instead of a crutch. A live reading lands on justice after upheaval, offering a resonant arc for anyone rebuilding self-trust. Along the way, we invite you to follow the thread of childhood joy—those simple, luminous obsessions that still point you home.
If you’re ready to peel off old layers, set honest boundaries, and make something true, this conversation gives you practical ways to start: breath by breath, brushstroke by brushstroke, card by card. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a nudge back to their voice, and leave a review telling us the one childhood spark you’ll revisit this week.
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Hello, welcome to Intuitive Insights. I am your no BS Woo-woo coach, Megan McDonough. I'm here to help you get in touch with that intuitive creative side of self, with tools, with insights, and today with insightful conversations. Today I have with me my uh neighbor, my friend Dana Zarowski. Dana is a multidisciplinisciplinary artist and an intuitive creative. She weaves together oil painting, photography, custom clothing design under her evolving brand, Dana Z Studios, that is. Her work blends raw expression with soulful symbolism, often exploring light, nature, layered textures. In addition to her visual art, Dana offers intuitive tarot readings, and she creates a space where guidance and artistry intersect. Through every medium, she invites others to connect with beauty, meaning, and transformation. Welcome, Dana.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, Megan. Very happy to be here. Very excited to be here.
SPEAKER_02:So, okay, let's start with our two questions. My my two questions. How do you define intuition?
SPEAKER_00:It's yourself guiding you. There's you know it's there. You know that feeling. People say it's in your stomach, in your gut, in your I don't know that that's always the case. I think sometimes we our intuition can be outside of us. We see a sign, we see a something that is your intuition tuning you in, you know, that you know, like, hey, pay attention to this, or I I would say that's like intuition having a conversation with you. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're you're speaking to yourself from a different sort of perspective, from a different way of looking at it, almost like a friend would talk to a friend, you know, but you're giving yourself the best advice because you're the only one who can give you that advice. You're the only one that knows you that well, you know. So that intuition comes from knowing that you are the one person that holds the key to what you know about you. You can't go outside yourself for that. You can't ask a friend anything about you, really, because all you're really asking them to do is give you affirmations of what you feel because you know already what you feel. It's just you're looking for the external validation, which honestly, the external validation is the clouded judgment. It's the intuition without the external validation that is the true intuition. It's what you feel in yourself without anything else clouded.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, agreed. So, how do you and how have you used and learned to use intuition in your life?
SPEAKER_00:So it's been a struggle throughout the course of my life. I have been through a lot of traumas throughout the history of my life. So I have tuned into my intuition and turned it off, and then two in tuned into it and turned it off. And I realized that when it's sort of off, things are not going the right way, and all that jazz is when I'm actually not listening to it. When I am listening too much to the external world and what the external world wants to place on me versus what my actual voice is so much so that I can no longer hear my own intuition. And I sort of was able to sort through that, you know, in the last year or so. You know, it's been a journey of three years, you know, starting to paint again. I started to feel my voice again. I started to be able to just express myself again and actually go, hey, wait a second. This is something I like. Like I like this, you know. So it started there after being sort of non existent. It was it was there. I just wasn't listening to it. I couldn't hear it because I couldn't hear myself over everybody else's judgment of me, over what everybody else might think, over what everybody else even said, or you know what I'm saying? Like what my dream was, what my reality is.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I I have a question on that. Yeah. Twofold, actually. So you mentioned uh that this thing was painted on you, is that what you said? I don't remember You said like the other people's perspective was painted on you. Yeah, ki yeah. So how did it get painted on, do you think?
SPEAKER_00:How did it get what?
SPEAKER_02:How did it get painted on?
SPEAKER_00:No, through life, I being a very empathetic person. Um I would even as a young child, I'd go into a room and I wanted to, I was like the peacekeeper, right? And I think I sort of prided myself in being that peacekeeper, you know. When there when tragedy struck in the family, I was I was there to help others with their emotions, help others maintain their emotions, right? I didn't know that. I can go back and look at that and sort of see that now. As a child, I didn't understand that, you know. But through each of those things, each layer, each judgment, each time you step one inch outside of what other people feel is normal, you get a nice little coat right over you. And you don't see it. It's it's like clear. You don't see it. It's like glue. You know how you put glue a layer of glue over you? It's just like that. You put this one little layer of glue over you. So, you know, hey, it was just that person's judgment, right? And then that person's judgment, the next time you go to sit down to do that thing, if you glossed over that and you didn't acknowledge it and say, oof, ah, that, whoa, that's not me. That was somebody else's, right? It sticks to you. It has nowhere else to go because you didn't acknowledge it. You didn't say, hey, this is not a part of me. You didn't say, I don't accept that. You said nothing. So in a sense, you didn't you didn't stand up for you in that instance. And because you didn't stand up for you, the lesson there is to learn how to. And with every layer, you get buried further and further and further from the truth of who you are and how you even got there. And so I spent a year layer by layer going through each one and acknowledging each layer, acknowledging each person, acknowledging, and acknowledging them in their form, in what age, what what circumstance, all of the things. Because I don't talk to my five-year-old. I was a foster parent for 10 years. I don't talk to a five-year-old the same way that I talk to an 18-year-old. I just don't. That's not how you do it. But they could have the same root issue. Right. But I wouldn't talk to them the same way. Right, because they wouldn't, they understand at different levels.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:So I had to do the same thing with every layer of judgment, with every layer of everything that I was built upon or thought I was built upon. Because the thing is, is I was absolutely, you know what? I was absolutely making my life better by changing the energy in the room. I was in the moment. But future me, future me couldn't even see future me because I was too busy maintaining everybody else's energy and not enough energy maintaining my own energy and seeing what my own needs were. So the closer I got to giving myself the space, the freedom, the freedom without guilt to sit with myself and enjoy my own presence, the easier it became to peel the layers off and see who I am for who I am.
SPEAKER_02:So I want to go back on a couple of things. One, I want to just say this. This is a clarification for me. It may or may not be a clarification for you, but I want to say it. Instead of what other people feel as normal, you know how you said, you know, assuming what other people have said. I just want to clarify my philosophy. It's the perception of what other people feel is normal, not necessarily what they feel. So, and in addition to that, I just want to follow that up with we can't notice, in my my philosophy, we don't see or notice anything that which does not resonate in some way with us. So if we hear a judgment, we can only hear the judgment that we own ourselves. They're just highlighting it for us. If they own a judgment that we don't own ourselves, we won't notice. So that's something that I wanted to say. And then when I want to go back to this peacekeeper part, because it sounds like, from what I heard you say, it sounds like you connect to your intuitive side and your peacekeeper side as possibly being interconnected. So if that's true, and if it's not true, either way, what did the peacekeeper want and how did it look? You know, because you could say peace, but what does peace look like?
SPEAKER_00:Right. So I think that that's different at different ages.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What what older the older are the peacekeeper and the intuitive connected?
SPEAKER_02:Sorry. What do you feel that the peacekeeper and the intuitive are connected or have are like the same thing or in relationship to each other?
SPEAKER_00:Everything is in relationship to one another. But they're different. How do they relate? It kind of feels like a little bit of training ground, I guess, in a way. Because had I had not had those experiences, I would not be able to look back on those experiences and delineate between what is my energy, what is someone else's energy. So I kind of look back on that, because I'm seeing myself as young, you know, I look back at that and I I didn't know it at the time, you know. At the time, there's, you know, if I look back at that age, there's no way I was connecting to true intuition because I was housing other people's anxiety.
SPEAKER_02:So you're speaking more than it sounds like to me. What I'm hearing is, and I don't wanted to go back on this too, was that it sounds like you were connecting your intuition with your empath, which are very much, you know, I'm like all crooked now. They're very much, you know, they're very similar, if not sometimes the same thing. And you had mentioned, I thought it was a beautiful visual, is the empath with a sheet of like sticky tape or glue around your aura. And I find that a lot of well, I I f I personally feel everyone's intuitive and everyone has the capacity to be empathetic. We're not all trained to do either. So if you're born with a whole bunch of talent in that area, or um if you're born with less clutter there and that part of self, you accumulate a lot of stuff. You hold a lot of things for a lot of people until you and most likely in most spiritual experiences, someone we get to a point where all we can see is the dark of carrying others' weight. Emotional, psychological, sometimes. The beauty of this world being dualistic, we have light and dark. And the dark shows us the beauty of the light. And the light clears up the crevices in the dark. So learning to so I guess what I'm asking in this saying this is without going too specific or too personal, is what was the the ball route for you, not externally, but like internally, of the dark room needing to find the light? Or better put I felt empty. Um the like you were so far away from the empathetic intuitive that you were just like, enough.
SPEAKER_00:There was nothing, though. I felt so empty that I had literally nothing left to give to the life that I was living at that time. I had no more.
SPEAKER_02:Was there was there what would then I guess maybe was there a do you remember a glimmer of light or hope that pulled you up in a new direction?
SPEAKER_00:I was, you know, what it was yes, I was I was sitting in my chair, I had my cane with me, and I couldn't make it to the bathroom, which you know our houses are really it live in Chicago, our houses are not that far. And I had had enough, you know, and it was it was just it that was it was get up and get out. Like that there was no glimmer of hope. What I realized that the glimmer of hope was the there was no glimmer of hope. There was no one coming to save me that was outside of me. I had to get up out of, I had to get up and start walking and just keep moving and doing for myself. You know, that was the glimmer of hope. I was the glimmer of hope. I gave myself the glimmer of hope. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, it always comes from within. I'm just asking, like, what was because sometimes it's a a thought or an insight, or sometimes it's an external symbolism of something shifting internally, you know?
SPEAKER_00:I think happened sort of sort of simultaneously for me. And then as as I sort of, you know, chose myself over anything else in order for me to heal and move forward, that's when every time I chose myself, every time I chose my truth, that is how I got closer and closer to my intuition. That's how I got closer and closer to the intuitive side to me, to the paying attention to just every everything, understanding the connectivity of it all. I don't know if I describe that.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. No, that that that that that works. That's your truth. That's it. I talk a lot.
SPEAKER_02:So we know what I want to talk about now is something that's near and dear to me, which is the the connection between creativity, artistry, and intuition and how they're kind of access points to each other, opposite ends of the spectrum. You know, intuition is potential creativity, creativity is is kinetic intuition. So you were an artist and then you stopped like in your twenties or something, and then you came back to it. So what brought you back and what made you stop?
SPEAKER_00:Well, life made me stop. I I wasn't so I did photography in high school, and then in my early 20s, somebody bought me or they they didn't buy me paints, they worked at Michael's. I don't know how they obtained them, but they got me some oil paints.
SPEAKER_02:They stole you some shit? Maybe. Fell off a truck. He was I think.
SPEAKER_00:I think. Anyway, he he always watched me just doodle because that is how I sort of adapted myself in the world. It's I'm well, as you know, I'm more of like an introverted sort of person. Like I'm extroverted, but only in introvert, extrovert, yeah. Yeah. So he gave me the he gave me those and I painted for a couple of years with with that, and I kept I would sell a painting and then put it right back into just getting more paints because I just loved it so much. That was all I was, you know. And then, you know, life got in the way. Had a just a couple of deaths, a couple of things, a couple of, you know, just life teachings and lessons that it literally just like the layers of of the the glue as they got tucked, as they got more on me and more on me. I lost who I was inside. I lost who the artist was inside. She was in there. She was always in there. She just wouldn't.
SPEAKER_02:Is it possible that is it possible that see, I believe, I that we all come into this life with lessons that we want to learn. And we sign up prior to being born in these what I call skin suits. And and we're like, yeah, I'm I'm cool with that happening, I'm cool with that happening. Yep, that definitely needs to happen. If it doesn't happen this way, we got B, C, and D options. And instead of, I also feel like that perspective, for me at least, gives a more empowering vision of my journey in life and less of a um helpless one. So is it possible that the layers weren't thrown at you, but that they were pulled into you to hide your sensitivity?
SPEAKER_00:I well, I think. Because like I said before, I think it's like boot camp, right? I think I've said this to you before. Yeah, you know, like spiritual boot camp, okay? So like I feel like my whole life has been a spiritual boot camp. So those things that I talk about, uh the layers on top of layers, right? That is um more of a visual representation, but it is sort of the choices, right? I may not have had so many layers if I was able to stop, look, recognize, and adjust. I didn't.
SPEAKER_02:Right, but you but that's what I'm saying. At the time, you needed a blanket. Right. At the time you weren't ready to look out. Right. You needed to hide. And that hiding was a gift waiting to come out later. Yes.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So the gift of what you're experiencing now wouldn't have been so much of a gift had you not hidden.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah. You see what I mean? I didn't know how deep we were going, but yes, this is uh this is deep, baby girl. This is a higher perspective situation. This is not like this is something that I signed up for. I didn't know I signed up for it. Yes, but I mean, listen, someone knew, I knew, soul knew, like this was contracted. I didn't know that this was contracted, but yeah, it was absolutely contracted. I was trying to be like spiritually PC a little bit. I don't know. Yeah, fuck that. Okay, but but for me, no BS woo-woo coach, those things are the training ground. Yes, because what they've done for me is help me open this further because they show me back then how I accessed it. And I get to see from that perspective, like how I but I had to crack the code first on my own myself. I I had to first find self on my own. There, there you you can't get there until you like go searching for yourself. Once you try to go and search for yourself, then you'll start to find these pieces that were were missing. You know what I mean? They're hidden for a reason. Every you have a path, a soul, uh, uh, you know, you also have free will and choice in this human form. So you could potentially not learn your lessons and cycle through it all over again, you know.
SPEAKER_02:I I like or it's how much are you willing to listen in this lifetime?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and you know what? Sometimes you have to walk through the fucking fire to get there because it's not, it's not, it's you I'm you're you're making hard choices, but you're making hard choices to sort of stand up for yourself. You know, you're kind of like going back to that soul contract, like, no, I remember who I am. I'm going to follow that lead.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:There's also there is a um, and I, you know, I love I love using spiritual like allegories, but I always butcher them. So there was one, uh, so I'm gonna butcher this. So there was I uh it was it was a lesson when I was taking Kabbalah classes back in, you know, in LA. The um the lesson was about, so this guy comes, or the story was the guy, you know, got called and his dad was like friends with the CEO of this company, and he was just like a lowly an accountant. I I'm completely adding details that don't work.
SPEAKER_01:Perfect.
SPEAKER_02:But anyway, just for the sake of it, this is Megan's Irish version of the cop story. So so the guy gets called into the CEO's office and he didn't know why. So he was really nervous because he was like, What have I done? So he grabs all of his papers so he could prove that he did something really good and or that he was accountable and he's just like, Well, in case I need these, I've got them, you know. And uh so he goes into the CEO's office and he sits down, and the CEO gives him this huge promotion, like out of nowhere, like makes him like again, Megan's version, Irish story, makes him vice president. And the guy's like, Wow, this is amazing! Well, thank you so much. This is so great. Um I I I didn't even expect he was so thrown, taken aback, and so excited that he left quickly and forgot his papers and you know, his folders and everything. So he left and he got halfway to his desk and he's like, Oh, god damn it, I forgot that stuff. So we went back to go get it, and as he came back, he heard the CEO on the phone with his dad saying, Yeah, I gave him the job. And immediately his heart sank. And the question comes, why?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I think he didn't want it.
SPEAKER_02:But he was really excited when he got it.
SPEAKER_00:Just because what your exterior is showing versus what your interior is telling you doesn't necessarily you I think sometimes we think that we know what we want, but we don't know what we want. But our intuition is telling us what the right thing is, but we think we know better. The like human form thinks it knows better.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, that is true. But the but the lesson of this particular thing is he didn't earn it. Yeah. And so the point being, all the hard shit you go through is worth it because you earn it.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's because it's proof to yourself that you can. Like it's not that you're earning any sort of award. You're just literally proving more to yourself each time you do it. What you're capable of. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. And it instills more trust in yourself and the thing that intuition thrives on.
SPEAKER_00:Trust and self. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Trust, period. Period, trust across all books. Yes. Self-that's so true. Fathers, life, everything. Yeah. Yes. All right. So talk to me. So what I was gonna ask you when I was getting to you, you started talking about uh sorry, I'm long window. Your experience with painting, life getting in the way. But then then you came back to it. You said about a year ago. And so my focus is for me, getting back in touch with my intuition exploded my own personal creativity. And the more open I stayed to my intuition, the more creative I became. It sounds like we had a converse experience, and that's what I'm saying. They're both access points to each other.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So you started painting, and then from the painting, the intuition started coming back. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Through the painting, you know, painting is meditative for me. So through I kind of I I think that when I'm painting, there's a rhythm to my brush as I'm listening to the as I'm listening to the music. And so that became this cathartic place where I could access more of who I was. In those moments, I was slowly opening myself up each literally each brushstroke, just opening myself up a little bit more to stopping the other chatter in my head at the time, you know, because I had so much. Yeah, exactly. Quieted everything else so that I could hear. And and that's why I ended up needing to go to the woods to really heal for myself, is because that's where I was able to quiet the energy and only hear myself. Because it gets really hard, especially in the hard times, especially in the lonely times, to hear yourself because you're so lonely. All you want is someone else to hold you and help you. And that is the most extreme time where you actually need to hold and help yourself. Like that, that's that's the time to go away and be alone when you're in those negative emotions, because you need to go and be with those negative emotions, with that part of yourself and really sit in it and cry for you and you know, go through so that you can keep moving forward, you know. And I did all that through painting, like through I was able to get that out. I cry while painting. I have paintings that I have smashed because I've been so fucking upset and just I mean, I thrashed this place, I've thrashed it a few times, you know, through the course of fighting for fucking me. And I keep them. Because it's a reminder to me that I fought for fucking me. I fought me for me. Yeah. And I learned it through painting.
SPEAKER_02:There were two things I wanted to say to that, pick up on what you said, but um You know, there's a yogic saying that I use a lot, which is the body is to the breath as the breath is to the mind. And in yoga we learn to slow down, focus, train the body, so you can slow down, focus the breath, so you can slow down, focus the mind. And the thing is that what happens when you live in a city or if you're living in misalignment, and misalignment meaning energetic and physical, mental, spiritual, that the breath gets disrupted. And the best thing you can do then is to go out into nature, because nature never forgets to breathe. The rhythms of nature don't get disrupted by you know too much visual stimuli or you know, political weather.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, there's nothing there but but nature to guide you, nature's magic to guide you.
SPEAKER_02:Nature will take your pain and transform it back into nature. As long as you try to the other thing I wanted to say on that, um, and then I want to pop onto a new subject, because I'm ADHD, uh, is one thing my teacher said uh about spiritual evolution years ago. I remember her saying because as I was training with her, I kind of was finding myself to be more of myself, which is more like a hermit, to be honest. I love being alone. I love it. Love being alone. I get lonely, yes, but I love being alone. Yeah, I do too. I just I would much rather like I was still out in the world partying and drinking with people and whatever, but I it was for them. It was never for me. So in my mind, you know?
SPEAKER_00:I I feel similar.
SPEAKER_02:So right. So then so I was struggling with that because I was still in my twenties, you know, and I was like, I wasn't quite ready to be a hermit, you know. I wasn't, you know, now I got kids and a husband, I'm fine with that. But but it's like um in my twenties I was struggling. And I was saying, because as I was going along with her, I wanted less to be around my parting friends. I wanted more to be home being and doing peaceful things, meditating, things like that. And she said and I said to her, I said, Well, isn't it lonely? Because there's less and less people she talked about less and less people being on the path as you as you elevate, as you evolve, as you raise your energy and your frequency and your spirituality. And I said, Well, wouldn't that be lonely? And she said, No, no, no, no. Alone. But never lonely.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Never.
SPEAKER_02:Because when you have the connection to source, you're never lonely.
SPEAKER_00:No. No. Oh my God. You're never alone. No. You're just no. You're not. And and that is that's that's huge once you sort of break that and realize that you're never alone. That you, you know.
SPEAKER_02:That becomes like an anchor in the world.
SPEAKER_00:And and I wanna I add to that a little bit because I really, you know, to me, you know, as you know, I've just sort of literally just sort of lost everything in my life. Friends, you name it, right? Disappeared. Um, and it hurt at first. But the truth is, is that that that is where happiness is. Like spirit helped get those things away from me by guiding me to nature. Because in nature, I was able to remove myself from energies that I could not separate myself from. So when I went to nature, I was able to separate myself and just sit in nature and stop moving and slow down because my nervous system didn't even understand how to do that. The human nervous system had no idea what slowing down actually meant. And then remove all of the other energies literally, kind of one by one, like day by day. I went through energy by energy of people that I had in my environment. So I didn't just work on me. When I was learning to come back out into the world, my first thing to do was assess everyone's energy prior to re-entering the world. And I've assessed everyone's energy as I've gotten back into the world so that I decide who I want to use my energy with, who I'm now in control of where I place my energy, who I put my energy on, because I'm not afraid to be alone. So now I get to be the choosy one. I get to be the one who says, you know what? Yes, I do vibe with your energy and I I would like to hang out with you. Or, you know, I think a past version of me would have really enjoyed you. But not this version of me. And I don't have to give energy to anybody I don't want to. I mean, in the nicest way possible, but I'm not gonna waste my time or energy anymore. I used to waste my time and energy, and all that helped me do was to sort of float in their bubble with them versus me floating in my own individual bubble and allowing in, you know, sort of love and light, you know, because if you if you are so close, and there's just something about it.
SPEAKER_02:It sounds to me like you're speaking to, and what I recognize personally is the difference between discernment and people pleasing.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02:And so you you're just gaining clarity on your own boundaries of energy.
SPEAKER_00:Right, person by person. And I happily let go all of the ones that don't belong, that I don't see having the ability to just continue to move forward. They don't want it inside themselves at this moment. That's where they're at, that's their timeline, that's their shift, that's their choice. I'm not gonna hold myself back to be with someone who's not looking to continue to evolve. So I just choose to be go that route, you know, and it's not anything negative. I have no bad feelings towards towards them. I I literally leave them in love and light, and I hope that they do, you know, find their choice points in life, and then they're able to make the choices that suit them the best, right? That we will, because it's them. Exactly. Right. At their time. They're just it this is not the timeline for it, I guess is the way to say well, you're not in the timeline for it.
SPEAKER_02:Look, you don't it's that's the thing, and that's the trap of that can be a big trap of being empathetic and and aware of energy of your own and others, is that you can see how beneficial certain maps have been in your life, but not everybody is on the same journey. They're gonna see it on the same trip.
SPEAKER_00:They might not see it this go-round. You know, their soul might have a couple more go-rounds before they see it, so they might but it may never be theirs to see. Right. There's just so much more to all of this than we can imagine. But what we can do is continue to help other people find their own self, you know, like it's not like I guess through almost through like I don't know how to explain it, but what I but everybody has the capability to get to themselves. They do, they just have to tune in a little bit more, you know, to whatever sparks them, whatever makes them feel a sense of calm, quiets the noises, even if it's for a minute. You know, everybody knows, everybody has that one thing. You know, I've talked to people I have my garage, you know, they come all by for the paintings and stuff like that. One guy came through and and we were talking, and I'm like, you have that one thing from when you you're you were a kid, that one thing that really just brought you joy, like you had it, like you know, because kids were a little selfish, right? So we have this one thing that we like at one point in time, right? And he was We just better listeners to our soul, right? And he was like Pokemon cards, and I still sort of have them, but I'm like embarrassed to bring them out, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, why? And he was like, Well, because I'm an adult with Pokemon cards. And I was like, does that that's like a story? That's just a story that you're telling yourself to keep yourself from bringing them out into the world with you.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and in all fairness, Dana, and I can't help this comedian side of myself. I know he can't like go trade Pokemon cards with like eight-year-olds, you know, I mean, as an adult. Well, no, he likes them to legit. He can't do that. But what was it about the Pokemon cards that lit him up that he could explore more?
SPEAKER_00:You know? Yeah, it wasn't about bringing him out into the world necessarily. That was his sign of like he did just bring him out because he spoke out loud to me about a joy he had as a child. Yes, yes, and that immediately, you know, brought a sense of joy, and who knows where his mind has gone since then, you know. But when you just ask somebody like what made you happy as a kid? Like what made you feel that like sense of joy and wonderment in the world, like follow that fucking thread. Because that thread's real.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. Okay. Speaking of which, get out your tarot cards. I didn't know we were gonna do this, but we're gonna do this. So Dana has started doing tarot in the last well, the last year or so, right? And what tarot, so in my and Dana, speak to this if you feel differently. But I feel that some people are intuitive, some people are astrologers. That's their their choice of divination. Some people are tarot card readers, oracle card readers, some people read tea leaves, coffee leaves, whatever. Everybody or intuitive, you know, just like me, Soul Talk. But a lot of people have a external divinatory tool that becomes like a safe space for the reader and the one who is being read. I can feel sometimes when I offer intuitive readings, it's like, well, what do you use? You know, people ask me, like, well, what do you use? I'm like, I don't, I just listen to your soul. And there's something that's so naked about that that sometimes it freaks people out. Because they can't walk away going, it was stupid cards or she read it wrong or whatever. So there is a safety in something like a divinatory tool, which is wonderful. A lot of people respond to it. I love them myself, but I don't read them for other people, I do it for myself. Now, Dana, do you feel the same way? Is this a tool, another tool, an outlet that you can let your intuition flow through?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, absolutely. I think uh, you know, it's interesting because the truth my truth is that I wasn't I didn't tarot anything. Nothing tarot, no tarot. You know what I mean? There was no sense of that. I knew I was always connected to spirit since I was young.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:I just didn't know the path to tarot how that got here.
SPEAKER_02:So So how do you use your tarot cards? How do you work with them? Because everybody has different techniques, and sometimes people do I know you have a different way of doing it, but some people do like, you know, the Celtic cross or the three-card spread, but you do something else.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, no, I do I let spirit pull the cards. So you you do jumpers. Yeah, they're jumpers. So if you know it's what comes out comes out. So I work very closely with the spirit. I ask typically the first thing that I'll do is I don't actually want somebody to ask the question. I want the cards to tell me the answer because what I'm doing is sort of kind of trying to connect to my spirit team to figure out what's going on. And I ask them to pull the cards for me. So what'll happen is whatever your question is, spirit should probably be pulling the cards that will lead me down that direction. Now, they feel, hear, see things as well. And I'll try to, depending on how open somebody is, I try to utter the things out that I'm I am that I personally am seeing, feeling, and hearing. And they're really more just to see if any of those things are connecting with them, but they're I'm doing it in real time so that I don't break the cycle of where my mind is being allowed to go. Because I kind of have to clear out what is happening with me first in order to get a clear read on who I am actually reading. And then I then I sort of wipe that and move towards the next sort of wherever I'm wherever I'm sort of placed to go. Does that any of the does that make sense?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, absolutely. All right. So let's do let's let's read for me. Why not? Right?
SPEAKER_00:So don't tell me anything.
SPEAKER_02:Do I have to say out loud what I'm asking you about? I'll tell you.
SPEAKER_00:I don't want you to. Good. Okay. I'll give you so we can do it two ways, you know. So I I can I'll read it in the pieces and you can just confirm to me that you received your your answer or that I was on the right path without having to tell me all the details. Or you could share the details if you wanted to, but I wouldn't go incredibly personal. I say this all the time, because the thing is, is that if you're with other people or other people, like if it's personal, so sometimes externally what's happening to me will I will sometimes mirror the energy when I'm pulling into it. And so, you know, if it's like a group reading, I wouldn't like ask a personal question because I might mirror something that triggers you in front of you and not on purpose. It's not, it's not a purposeful act. All right, let's go. So if you want to know what I'm doing right now, I'm actually asking the deck. So I typically say spirit of the highest power, greatest good, and harm to none. You know, help me tune into Megan. I usually say the person's name in my head. And then as I am going through, I'm talking to Spirit and asking Spirit, I repeat over and over what I'm looking to find. So I'll just tune in.
SPEAKER_02:Did it just throw up? It sounded like the cards just threw up on the table.
SPEAKER_00:They didn't. They're under the they're under the thing.
SPEAKER_02:It was like all of them. That sounds like a throw-up. A card throw up.
SPEAKER_00:I guess, yeah. I guess because I hear it all the time that I don't shuffling. I'm shuffling, right. Yeah, that's the other thing. I don't necessarily need to have.
SPEAKER_02:See now, the last time I gotta s I gotta speak to this right now. The last time you pulled for me. Yeah. Are you having a hard time getting stuff right now?
SPEAKER_00:I just starting to pull right now. Yeah, I am having a hard time. Here's the thing though. I have a whole thing.
SPEAKER_02:I have a whole cards in my head. And this happened last time. I started to see the cards in my head. Like it just kept showing up, and I was like, get out of here, get out of here.
SPEAKER_00:So, but that's part of the training tool, like part of what my training tool would be is like the cards do show up in my head because I can see the cards now and I can associate the cards to something. Yeah. So I think that you are you really want to know about your emotional fulfillment and your your sort of wish fulfillment. Like I had like you're you're in this so you're looking for sort of justice. Okay, so we have justice at the bottom of the deck, and we have nine of cups at the top of the deck. Nine of cups is all about it's literally wish fulfillment, emotional bliss, family, happy, harmony, right? On the floor at my feet, I got a tower, which it's in reverse. So uh the the worst is over in whatever it is that you're sort of you know, um, justice is in the upright at the bottom of the deck. The tower is in reverse beneath me, meaning to me that because the tower is in reverse and justice is in the upright, whatever it was, whatever it is going on, you're on the other side of that. So you're but then you also have the three of wands, and the three of wands is show me the three of wands. The three of wands is in the upright. So this is all about like action, like launching something, manifesting something, throwing something in. So it's kind of like you you, you know, you you you you weathered the storm, okay, of whatever it is that you're you're talking about, and you it's coming in. It's going to you know it. You your intuition is telling you, and actually, I just got chills, my legs got chills, and my face is hot.
SPEAKER_02:It's called perimetopause. I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. Sorry. What did you say? I said it's called perimenopause.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no. No, I didn't have to I did have to figure that the fuck out too. Try and try and fucking figure out what's what spirit's telling you while trying to figure out whether or not it's perimetopause or spirit. That was a problem. I think the answer is yes. The answer is yes. Figured it out. But honestly, Megan, what every uh what I what I'm seeing is, you know, I pull again, it's it's you you did what you needed to do. It's moving. Now it's launching, it's it's it's moving. Justice is here. Like it's going to justice is here, it's going to it's going to work out. Do you does that make sense? Is that under because to me, I don't understand it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just trying to give you what I got.
SPEAKER_01:But here's the other thing.
SPEAKER_00:But we're not going to go there on here. We're going to go there separately, you and I, because Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I'll I'm just going to speak to what I saw, and then I want to talk about your s your hoodies and then what's coming up. But I kept seeing, I believe it's the Six of Wands, where the guy's struggling. That's what I saw. That's what was popping up in my head. Or it looks like he's it looks like like the like the top writer weight version where he's he's like forward and then there's he's like one guy with a wand fighting a whole bunch of other wands.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's the Six of Wands. I think. But anyway, that's what I saw.
SPEAKER_01:Could be the swords too, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Which to me says struggle, but maybe there's a different in an interpretation of that. So thank you for that, by the way. So that was a little taste of how Dana uses her intuition with um with the tarot cards. So couple of things. One, I love your hoodie. Talk to me about it.
SPEAKER_00:So I'm taking my prints now. And actually we're in the garage right now, so we can you can kind of see. I'm taking all my prints and I'm creating hoodies and gear out of them.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you have an Instagram account.
SPEAKER_00:I do, yes.
SPEAKER_02:And people can order through there for your hoodies and gear.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes, yes. Dana's you can just email me at DanaZ Studios. at gmail.
SPEAKER_02:And what is your Instagram and social?
SPEAKER_00:Hashtag DanaZ Studios. So D-A-N-A-Z-E-E Studios with an S.
SPEAKER_02:Um and same thing with the So people can see all your artwork there, your um Yeah, I'm slowly putting up the artwork and yeah, I'm doing so so um so for the next uh three months, Dana is gonna be doing her tarot, uh Dana Z Studios or Two Worlds Tarot on my website, magnetizeyourlight.com. Underneath online services, Book Online is where you can find her. I'm offering 10% off with the code MYL10. You got 10% off for a half hour or hour tarot read with Dana. And Dana is also doing something super special, which I absolutely love and it's fond to my heart because I do something similar in my vein. But she's offering for an additional, you know, minimal charge, an intuitive painting that like a miniature intuitive painting that goes along or is inspired by your tarot reading, which is kind of a cool thing that you can use as like a mandala to remind you of the messages that came through. And or just a really fun little piece of art that you can collect from Dana Z. Dana, thank you so much. And your website is DanaZstudios.com. That's it.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. Thank you. I appreciate it. This is fun.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. And Instagram at Dana's at Dana Z Studios.
SPEAKER_00:It's hash hashtag Dana Z Studios.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, I'll make sure it's all in the show notes. And you can find her and her hoodies and her gear and her art and her intuition. Hashtag Dana Z Studios. Thank you so much. And guys, make some magic today. See you in a couple weeks.