Listen To The Nudge Before The Piano Drops with Juliana Sloane

We talk with hypnotherapist and Buddhist teacher Juliana Sloane about intuition as the practice of getting out of our own way so real knowing can come through. We dig into imagination, altered states, and deep healing that reaches the root instead of just explaining the pattern. 
• intuition as a channel for creativity and wisdom 
• imagination as a doorway to presence and knowing 
• learning to listen to subtle nudges before life escalates 
• Buddhist “sense doors” and the mind as a sense door 
• paying attention without getting sucked into reactivity 
• spiritual and psychological healing are deeply connected 
• why non-pathologizing approaches can unlock change 
• the limits of talk therapy and the need for root-level work 
• instinct versus intuition and fear versus trust 
• ancestral patterns, belonging, and resistance to healing 
• letting go in parenting and in family roles 
• ego as useful but not in charge 
• tools that help: meditation, hypnosis techniques, shamanic journey work 
• how shamanic drumming supports trance and resilience 

Juliana Sloane is a Buddhist teacher, hypnotherapist, and coach specializing in hypnosis, applied shamanic counseling, and client-centered neuroplasticity. She blends ancient wisdom traditions, hypnosis, and evidence-based approaches to help individuals create lasting transformation beyond the conscious mind. Some of her primary areas of specialization include spiritual emergence, leadership & confidence, relationship issues, chronic illness, trauma, and anxiety.

Julianasloane.com

Transcript

Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Hello, welcome to Intuitive Insights Podcast. I am your no BS Woo-Woo coach, Megan McDonalds, and today I have Juliana Sloan. Hi, Juliana. Hey, Megan. Juliana is a hypnotherapist, a transformational coach. She's a Buddhist teacher who works and waves wisdom together with traditions and cutting-edge psychology. Trained in in-depth hypnosis, applied shamanic counseling, positive psychology coaching, and coaching for the unconscious mind. She helps clients move beyond the limits of talk therapy into deeper terrain of the unconscious mind. Through hypnosis, trance work, meditation, and more, Juliana guides people into spaces of awareness where lasting insight and transformation can become possible. Welcome, Juliana. That was hard for me to say. You are an accomplished lady and you need to get, we need to say those things. Oh hi, welcome. I'm so happy to have you here. I'm delighted to be here. Thanks for having me, Megan. Of course, of course. So, all right, let's let's kick this off with my because I have a lot of questions. Um, I've dabbled a bit myself in Buddhist um Buddhism and philosophy. And before we talked, we had a nice conversation that explored religion and spirituality and and and the mind in general. So um I'd like to explore that too. But first, what does the word intuition mean to you?

SPEAKER_01 2:08

You know, when I think of intuition, and even as you ask that, one of the first things that came up for me was just this sense of like learning to get out of our own way.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

And to allow the channel of creativity, of wisdom, of knowing to be something within us that we can trust. Uh, so much of all of the inner work that I do with people is, you know, if I were to really sense into it, at the heart of it, there is this question of, yeah, how do we get out of our own way? How do we let the um real truth of our being and of our knowing actually be something we have a relationship with?

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And I love that you said creativity as well, because I and correct me if you feel differently, but I feel like creativity is an absolute expression of our intuition.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

100%. You know, one of the things that actually happens a lot in my work with clients, because, you know, we're doing this deep trance work. It often can feel very visionary, um, very archetypal. There are metaphors, there's a lot that can be popping. And so much of the time, um, especially early in the work, people will say, Well, how do I know that I'm not making it up? And, you know, the big thing that I always say is, your imagination, your creativity. It's a doorway into deep presence and deep knowing. And, you know, I think in some ways we've been um conditioned that imagination, creativity, um, playfulness when it comes to intuitive knowing is, you know, not real deal serious, but um that that's a doorway that'll get us there.

Learning To Hear The Nudge

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Yeah, curiosity and play for sure. Um I was gonna ask you something. Um oh, you just said something and I lost it. Oh, okay. Well, let's just move on then to my next question, which is this is this is the beauty of perimenopause, all the beautiful questions. Oh, I'm right there with you. Right out the door. And before I, like I said before, I would just make it up and now I'm just like, no, it's gone. I'm moving on. Um, so uh okay, so how and when, like, what was the kind of inciting incident for you that made you start utilizing your intuition more in your life? Or was there one? This is a great question.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

And you know, I'm not sure if there is one specific moment that I can point to that it was like, oh, okay, the intuition, this is the thing to listen to. Yeah. Um one piece of advice that I got from, you know, one of my teachers when I was a teenager. You know, here I was uh adolescent kid, super sensitive, super, super sensitive, and kept on repeating patterns in my relationships that kept on leaving me heartbroken as uh one, as one does. Yeah. And I remember one of my teachers, you know, I was so, so sad. And she was this very wise, intuitive woman. And she looked at me and she was like, you know, the thing is, when it comes to all of these different pieces, first your intuition, it's gonna tap you on the shoulder real gently. And then the universe is gonna maybe smack you upside the head a little bit if you don't listen to it. And then if you don't listen to that, the piano's gonna drop from the window. So you wanna start getting good at listening to the little nudges and the little whispers and those little moments where there's a part of you that already knows this is the wrong person, or this is the wrong choice, or this is the right person, and this is the right choice. And that's something that, you know, it's really stayed with me over time of, you know, may I develop my knowing and my ability to listen in such a way and support other people to do the same that we don't have to have quite so many pianos dropped on our heads?

Early Mysticism And Trauma Healing

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Right. I like that with the way you said that, may I? It's a beautiful way to say that. May I develop. Um So did you start with the kind of the psychological, or was it more of the spiritual, or was it how did the bridge come together?

SPEAKER_01 6:57

That's a great question. You know, the the spiritual for me came first. And by first, I mean way, way, way first. You know, one of my early memories that I had kind of pushed under the rug and forgotten about until going to uh silent meditation retreats later in life. Um I remember being a young kid, you know, I want to guess maybe six or seven years old, like little, little. Yeah. And I was an only child. So I spent a lot of time alone. I was very imaginative. Uh, you know, of course, one of the gifts of perimenopause is discovering, oh, I've just been super ADHD this whole time. Um but yeah, I was that that dreamy, you know, dreamy kid. And I remember sitting in my room and closing my eyes and beginning to get very still and concentrated and watching the interplay of, you know, light and color in the visual screen behind the eyes with the eyes closed. And all of a sudden, it was like this deep experience of seeing the ways that thoughts bubbled up, the way that the thoughts weren't even really mine, the way that, you know, you could cling on to a thought and make it bigger and stronger, or you could let it slip away. Yeah. And I remember going, uh, running down the stairs to my mother and saying, I just discovered where the thoughts come from. I was so thrilled. And, you know, of course, she's a busy mom. She was in the middle of something. She did not understand that I had just had this very deep meditative experience. Um, you know, to be honest, there's always been a sense of there must be more. There must be more magic. There must be more of the sacred, you know, there must be more going on than meets the eye. And, you know, I would say over and over and over, I feel like I've been proven right. Um, there is so much more going on than the things we can touch and taste and see and smell. And so that really is what got me started on this path. Um, and then of course, you know, over time life happens and personal uh traumas and events unfold, and I begin to become very interested also in the psychological aspect, um, particularly how do we heal um trauma, how do we heal attachment wounding, how do we heal um these places where our own sense of personal power and worthiness and well-being are compromised. Um, so yeah.

Sense Doors And Mindful Input

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Um, I have a couple of questions for you there. On the senses, I know in yoga, we the five senses are the way that we draw ourselves or draw our mind out of focus. There are ways that our mind can get pulled off focus and and um connect to the maya, the illusion that this tangible world is the real thing. So is there um is there kind of a similar thought or um idea in Buddhism?

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Yeah, sim definitely layers that are related here, you know. When we talk about the sense doors, um, we include the mind actually as one of the sense doors. So it's you know, seeing, smelling, touching, tasting, feeling, uh, thinking. And part of one of the biggest teachings there is this idea that part of our job is to find a way to kind of guard and protect all of these sense doors, knowing that, you know, when we watch a violent or dark movie, it impacts us. You know, when we hear somebody speaking really angrily or really hatefully, it impacts us.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

It affects us.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

You know, when when we subsist on a diet entirely made of sugar and caffeine, it impacts our experience of the world. Um, so part of the instructions really are um what's happening in the senses are more important than we might um write them off to be on our you know regular day-to-day.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

So so the perspective is less like don't pay attention to them, but pay attention to them because they're they're giving you the guardrails of what's what's going on. Yeah, I would say pay attention, but don't get sucked in, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:44

You know, can we have a witnessing of what's happening, um, but not fall over into like, ooh, I'm gonna let this really grab me and take me on the ride.

Going Beyond Talk Therapy

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Right, right, right. Indulge, no indulgences. Um, my teabags fell. Like, I don't know why, but it drives my tea. I have my tea bags in. Sorry, this is like so off the anyway. Okay. And then the next question I had was um around uh so you your curiosity came around, you followed your curiosity, which is again an intuitive thing, I believe. But um to how do we heal as like the root of your curiosity, is what I heard. And, you know, um, and so my question with that is what have you found in that uh what crosses over and what doesn't between the psychological and the spiritual? It's a great question.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

And you know, I would say um almost everything crosses over, right? Yeah, yeah. In my view at least, and this is partly like, yes, I am a healing practitioner and a spiritual counselor. So from my lens, there's almost nothing that can't be included in the realm of spirit and the realm of magic and the realm of what's um wrapped up in our intuitive knowing. Yeah, it's all consequential when I think about, you know, these overlaps between healing and psychology, yes, um, and spirit and psychology. I think one of the things that I find to be so supportive actually, in, you know, some of these healing modalities that are a little bit more spiritually and intuitively oriented is it's much less pathologizing. Um, we don't have to worry about, oh, is there something wrong with me? Oh, what's my diagnosis? Um, what we're doing is we're really getting super curious and real about what's underneath the surface. If I go down a few layers into my feeling of unworthiness or my anxiety getting on an airplane or my relationship with my parent, what's underneath the surface? And so often when we start to go underneath the surface and get really curious, we start to see that an entire world opens up of experience, of knowing, of places where maybe energy is blocked or where there's been a long-held misunderstanding. And, you know, part of the reason that the work that I do is bringing people specifically into altered states of consciousness to do deep healing work is because there are limits to how much talking about it can help. And I would say, you know, in many ways, that is a huge guiding star for me. Uh I'm someone who personally benefited greatly from therapy and also reached a point where it was like, there's gotta be something more. There's gotta be a way to do things a little more deeply. There's gotta be something else going on beneath the surface because I could talk about it. I could intellectualize it. It was still happening. Yeah. And so, you know, my my goal really for my work with others is that they get to go deeper, they get to go beneath the surface and get more understanding of what's really going on and find the ways through their own inner wisdom and experience and innate creativity to heal in really profound ways.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Yeah, I was I was I keep hearing this like the term ball root, you know what that is? I think I've used it before, but it's um like when you're pulling out weeds, and the only way you can really make sure that that doesn't come back is if you get to the ball root, but the ball root doesn't um it it's buried in the energetic body. It's buried in the intuitive, you know, um psychic body. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Exactly, yeah. So usually we're we're going deep into the body, into the energy, into the long-held beliefs, and we're saying, yeah, you know, where where is that tangle there at the root that needs to once and for all be untangled?

The Mirror Of A Grounded Teacher

SPEAKER_00 16:22

Yes, yes, yes. Oh, two things on that. So one, I wrote down this quote and I'm sure I'm I'm you know messing it up, but it's Einstein's quote of logic will get you so far, but imagination will get you everywhere. And I was thinking of that while you were explaining and exploring the healing. Um what was oh, in the tangle, the tangle. So in my experience, and I'm I'm wondering if you feel and sense the same. When I was around my yoga teacher, you know, physically present with her, um, which was only for a short period of time, even though I've like keep you know, she's like the well from which I drink, right? And um but when I'm in her presence, I feel all the tangles in my mind. Not you know, I'm not judging myself or just like, oh she has no knots. Like the reflection of or minimal, the minimal knots or tangles in her mind reflects to me the tangles and knots of my own. And I find that when I'm in the presence of someone who is truly kind of rooted and and grounded and and has made a major effort to untangle the knots of the mind, that it it provides a beautiful mirror, you know, for my own tangled it's a it's a beautiful reflection.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

And you know, I I resonate with what you're sharing um in that, yeah, when we are with people who are grounded and healed and have done profound inner work, you can feel it. Yeah. You can feel like, oh, this is there's not as much friction. There's this the the slate is maybe a little cleaner. There's not as much of that entanglement or, you know, clutter that that's sort of happening there. And I think it can be such a powerful motivator to wow, like can can I can I be the kind of person who someone else feels that lack of friction in my presence?

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

You know, what an inspiration.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Yeah, I was thinking vibration. I was, oh, I don't have it here with me, but the Tibetan singing bowls, I usually have them right behind me. But um, like sometimes I'll bring them when I teach yoga and I'll play them on like for the little kids, I'll play them on the belly, and then I was like, you know what, adults like that too. So I started bringing it for that in Shivasan. But if if it's not positioned right, if if it's doesn't have the space to vibrate, it won't vibrate when you play it. And when you were sharing that, I was thinking I I was starting to get this visual of like, oh, it's when someone can vibrate their natural frequency freely, then it's what becomes loud, clear, and inspiring. You know? Beautiful.

unknown 19:26

Yeah.

Catholic Roots And Cultural Delusion

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Um, so I have a question I want to uh ask you. Um well, first of all, were you brought up Buddhist? Is that something you found on your own?

SPEAKER_01 19:36

I was not, you know. Um I I come from a family of recovered Catholics. Yeah, yeah. Um lot a lot of family jokes that I didn't entirely understand because they, you know, pretty much everybody was like, yeah, we're not gonna um not gonna raise our kids connected to a church because I think they had had some pretty challenging experiences in there.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Like a fair point, because I feel like being raised Catholic though did help out my comedy. And I'm sort of wondering about that.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

My family is very funny. I joke that I studied religion in college just so I could understand their jokes at Thanksgiving. Right. You know? I mean funniest people on earth. I mean, really, such a there's there is such a thread of humor that is so um so real within that. And I I I really love it and cherish it.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Well, it gives me that perspective of like it really crystallizes the perspective of action and word being in um hypocrisy. Not always, but some, you know, and then and that you're you know, you're forced to do things that like don't make it to have no resonance, you know, but everybody like hive mind goes along with it like no big deal. And so it's like it gives you this perspective of like, are we why why are we pretending emperors have clothes right now? You know, like we're not connecting, you know?

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Anyway, that's that's my oh boy, yeah. It's I mean, I I I hear what you're saying, and it's just making me also reflect on how how many pieces of our culture are wrapped up in that exact same experience right now. I mean, the the power of confusion and delusion is real strong right now.

Instinct Versus Intuition

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Um but to No, but I feel like, and yes, it is, and I've and and there are several reasons for that, but I I um like metaphysical and legit, but um uh so to that, um unpacking uh the ball root in the spiritual psychic realm, right? Psychic realm meaning like intuitive space. Um which we are not trained to do. Matter of fact, we're trained to know to trust your gut, but usually that trusting the gut is instinct, which houses a little bit of fear because you're trying to protect this um, you know, uh finite body and you know mm you know skin suit. You know what I mean? So like Intuition doesn't have fear because it is infinite. But the um but instinct is um is the body listening to the intuition but in order to protect the body. Right? That's my understanding of it, that's my interpretation of it. So what people are confusing in my perspective, and I want to hear what you think about this, um instinct and intuition, A, but B, because uh the ego is wrapped up in the physical, in the finite, right? In the fear-based, the the the place to protect. Um so there's a one a confusion over instinct versus intuition and not the having not having the discernment between what's fear and what's faith. Um what's trust and what's fa fear. And um and then the other one that because I felt it, it means it's true. And that main thing I feel is the underbelly of all the confusion that's happening right in the earth right now. Because and not being able to discern if that feeling is trust or fear.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

You know, it's interesting as you're naming this and kind of yeah, bringing up this theme. The thing that just keeps on coming up for me, and maybe it's because also we we were talking about family of origin, is when I'm working with a client and it becomes very clear that there is an ancestral element to what they're working with, that, you know, maybe they're stuck in the same pattern and they feel like I just can't release the fear or the attachment or the sense of being, you know, responsible for carrying the burden of all of the people that I love and that I know. And, you know, I think this is also one of those places where our real deep trust and knowing of what's possible in terms of our own freedom and well-being and the habituated lineage-line egoic pieces get a little bit tangled up because so much of the time, you know, I will be working with someone and they'll hit upon some big, big piece of lineage line work. And often there is resistance at first to doing their own healing around it because there's a sense that if I do my healing around this, then I will be stepping out of the family and I won't belong anymore. I'll be stepping out of that connection.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Yeah.

Letting Go With Family And Kids

SPEAKER_01 25:19

And so I think a lot of the time when things like this come up, you know, part of our task is not just to understand our own tangle, but to understand the way that our tangle is interconnected with other people's tangles. And that if we carry the burden for someone else or protect them from their own pain, or try and caretake them so that they don't have to deal with X, Y, or Z, that we're actually denying them the opportunity for their own healing and their own path. And by doing our own healing and letting go of the things that we don't need to carry. That we're actually opening the door for more freedom, you know, for ourselves, but also for a greater collective.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Yeah, I feel I feel that strongly, that last part you said. Um, it's I feel it cerebrally, and I'm trying to implement it more, you know, behaviorally. But the fact that like as a parent, you know, we're not here to stop them from pain. Or in well, yes, I mean for for to a certain like don't just be like, hey, go see what it feels like to run in front of a car. No, that's not what we're that's not what I mean. You know, is it painful? Cool, good job. You know, no, that's not that's not what I'm talking about. I mean more like well, I'm coming from the space where I I do believe that we come into this world with uh in in Kabbalah they call it tikkun corrections or uh samskara in in yoga, like you know, uh things that need to be healed. Right? And so when we s when we protect our children, overly protect them. We do need to protect them, but overly protect them, we are obstructing their life's journey. And we're taking we're taking the responsibility out of their hands and and not empowering them to heal, to become wise, to discern, to to grow. You know? It's a hard one.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

It is. I mean, I think it it comes down to this piece of, you know, in so many spiritual traditions, we're told that letting go is so important. And then we come face to face with how hard it actually is to let go, whether it's letting go of wanting to protect our children from every possible difficulty and harm they could encounter. Or, you know, I work with a lot of adults who were parentified as children and feel like it's their responsibility to be the person who's managing the emotions of everybody else in their family. Yeah. And, you know, the path of learning to let go and learning to sense into more deeply what is my personal responsibility and what is actually the the job and the journey and the responsibility of someone else. Like that's a that's a lifetime work.

Ego, Intention, And Surrender

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Yeah, it is. Um you know, you're saying that, and I wrote this down, speaking of my teacher, on something next to my next to me on my desk. And she, and I'm I might screw this up, so if anyone is you know very versed in Sanskrit, I I pre-apologize for this. But Naham karta harihi karta, which she told me translates to, I am not the doer. The universe is the doer. And I was like, I'm gonna write that down because there are so many times, you know, there are positive and and there's so this is another thing, and I I feel like this is similar, this philosophy translates to Buddhism, which is there really is no good and bad, there just is information. And the information, like you like placing good and bad on something. Um those are there's connection, there's truth, there's love, there's um inner knowing, unobstructed inner knowing, and then there is attachment to the finite. There is, you know, um overprotection of the skin suit, you know, that has many manifested forms, right? So there really is no good or bad, there just is. And what is the information you're receiving, right? Is it bringing me closer to connection? Is it taking me further away? Is it taking me closer to love? Is it taking me further away from fear? Um, or for towards fear. Um so it's very hard. So what I was saying, I was about to say was the ego. So the ego, everyone's like, you know, I know it becomes like, you know, you don't want an ego, whatever, you know, but you need one to get dressed and brush your teeth and, you know, show up to get a job like you need, and the semblance of an ego, because that is part of the thing that drives the train of the physical body, right? But to remember that the ego is not in charge is the hard part. Meaning, because the ego wants to drive the train. But the ego is literally like, I don't know, like a passenger, maybe the janitor on the train, you know? Like he's not really like, you know, he doesn't have the map. The intuition, the universe, the seer that we all have connection to has the map. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

And I I think in a lot of the time it boils down to what's our intention? Yeah. You know, is is there an intention towards kindness and dignity and liberation and respect and, you know, generosity, or is there an intention um for harm? Yeah. That's tangled up or confused or aversive, you know, or whatever it is. And I think in so many ways, what we really are here to be doing is like, can can we be a steward of our positive intention and find ways to let that be more accessible in our day-to-day lived reality?

SPEAKER_00 31:59

So having said that, what are some do you have some like tools that you offer that are just like simple that people can drop in, you know, to just help with this, you know, um alignment of self and uh reorganization towards more fulfilled healing? Great question.

Shamanic Journeying And Resilience

SPEAKER_01 32:22

You know, it's it's funny. A lot of people lately have been asking me, yeah, well, what's the simple tool that somebody can do in five minutes? And maybe there isn't, you know. Well, I I would say, you know, from where I stand and from the work that I do, the answer is kind of a a yes and yes, there are simple tools, but they also take time to learn. Yeah. So some of those simple tools, like I uh I support clients in learning to do shamanic journey work. And um, it is such a powerful modality for inquiry and for healing. Yeah. And it absolutely can be a 10-minute practice in your living room once you know how to do it. And it can be an absolute game changer. Um, same goes with um some of the hypnotherapeutic techniques I use. Yeah. There's some different things that um can take somebody from a, you know, 10 level of being super triggered and dial it down to a two or a three pretty quick. Pretty darn quick. And so I would say, you know, yes, absolutely. There are there are some incredible tools that we have at our disposal, but it also takes more time to really properly learn that. Yeah. What I would invite people into is, you know, learning to do shamanic journey work or learning some of the simple hypnosis techniques, or learning from a good teacher how to meditate. Um, because it's definitely uh helpful for all of this to get really good instruction and support.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

You just helped me rephrase that question, and I am now phrasing it. What's a good invitational tool? Because you're right, you have to continue to practice, but what's the tool that you can start with to kind of get your taste buds, you know, savory for the next or savory, is that the right word? You know what I'm saying? Salivating for the next thing. And uh what is specifically? I mean, I've heard, I did, I've done some shamanic training. Um, but how would you uh explain the shamanic journey work?

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Yeah, absolutely. So the way that I work with people, and there are other people who do things differently. Um, so I can speak for this sort of applied shamanic counseling model, yeah, is what we do is we are using the shamanic journey as a tool for healing and inquiry. And so what a journey looks like is you know, you're using a repetitive drum beat. Some cultures it's chanting, some cultures it's um something like the degery do in Australia, but many cultures it's a repetitive rhythmic drum. And the fascinating thing about this is that that rhythmic beat actually entrains the mind to go into a trance-like state. So it is something that is, which I think is part of too why um, you know, electronic dance music is so popular, that driving beat actually is doing something in your brain. Um so you, if you're feeling euphoric, if you're feeling like it's possible to let go more deeply with a certain type of music with a driving beat, part of that is actually because there's something happening in your brain.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Um, in the shamanic journey, what we're really doing is we're taking that drum beat and we are journeying um with an understanding of the shamanic cosmology. Um, we are journeying to connect with a guide. Um, and this can be thought of as a teacher, an ally, a supporter that may come in many different forms, but ultimately is kind of an archetypal representation of wisdom, of power, of goodness, of support. And we are journeying to that guide in a trance state to ask for healing, for information, for assistance, for clarity. And so many things can, of course, happen in the journey. You know, we don't know heading in what is going to take place. But even in that, you know, part of the reason that I really love working with people in altered states is we don't know what's going to happen. We are going into the unknown. And one of the knock-on benefits of that is that in all parts of our life, we become more comfortable and more able to go into unknown situations. We become more able to take risks, we become more able to trust our gut or our intuition, we become more able to find ourselves in new circumstances and adapt.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Um so it really um makes you more resilient. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Absolutely.

Who Juliana Helps And Next Steps

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking of the resil the nature of resiliency is like fluid. And I when I think of um intuition and and um spirit, I really don't like that word, but you know what I mean. But I can that it it's a it's fluid, it's playful, it's curious, you know, it's it's light, you know, whereas the um the physical world is more dense, linear, angular, you know, direct, you know, mass the Shakti, Shakti versus, you know, Shiva energy, you know? Um and then we pull it all together to make who we are. Right. Um is there a specialty of like do you specialize in in a particular issue for healing, or is this are all these modalities meant to serve kind of a breath of let's say imbalances? Great question.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Um, I tend to work with a broad range of people, but there are always similar themes that come up. You know, all of these modalities can support people through all kinds of things. But I would say sort of the top places where I tend to be working with people are around anxiety, stress, fear, you know, phobia, that sort of tangle.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Um, as well as a lot of people who keep on repeating the same pattern in their relationships and want to stop having the anxious attachment and pick different partners, want to stop finding themselves, abandoning themselves once they get into relationship, you know, things like that. Yeah. Um, and I also work with a lot of people who are navigating chronic illness on top of it all. Um be really, really supportive as a complimentary tool when you're navigating all kinds of physical healing and medical infrastructure and also needing something that provides a little bit deeper energetic and spiritual support along the way.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we are physical and energetic beings, you know, so it makes absolute sense that, you know, when seeking healing, you don't stop at the physical. You you get a you know, 360 of the soul, you know, mind and body. So how can people find you?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

They can find me on my website. It's Julianasloan.com. That's J-U-L-I-A-N-A-S-L-O-A-N-E. I always spell it because amazingly enough, everybody spells it wrong. Yeah. I didn't realize growing up I had a hard to spell name, but apparently I do. And there's a famous singer who has the same name now. So yeah, apparently you have to be a little more careful. Otherwise, you're signing up for voice lessons.

SPEAKER_00 41:12

Um similar but different.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Um but if if people hop onto my website, you'll see there's a link to have a 30-minute consultation call to see if working together feels right. Um, I also teach meditation groups, classes, retreats, um, both online and in the southwest United States. So I'm I'm around and teaching quite a lot if somebody wants uh a little bit of an easier entry point also into some of this work.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Wonderful. I'll make sure I'll put all that in the show notes for you. Thanks so much. I so enjoyed speaking with you today. This was a real treat, Megan. I love your energy and I I love I love the work that you're doing. I you said something at the beginning about when and I and I've found this to be true personally and then with people that I've worked with, but when you're s I'll call it your soul, you know, put in whatever word you wish, but when your soul is the one extracting the lesson, not someone else telling you or laid pathologizing you or have you, it just resonates deeper and it shifts more profoundly. And the healing is more like it's more instant. It's the ball root. It's getting to the ballroot. So thank you for the work you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

Thank you so much. This was a real uh lovely way to spend part of the afternoon. I'm so glad that we got to do this.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

Me too. Me too. All right, have a great day. Thank you all for uh for watching or listening if you're listening, and you can find all of Juliana's information in the show notes. See you soon.