The Dirty Side of Leadership
Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast disrupts the status quo by discussing hot-button topics that most podcasters are afraid to touch. Ron and Kristin apply their combined 50+ years of real leadership experience and take both a humorous and raw look behind closed doors. Often sharing personal experiences both in the workplace and out, they answer listener questions and breakdown 'dirty lessons' from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".
The Dirty Side of Leadership
Leadership Lessons From Charlie Kirk and the Movement He Built | Episode 132
In this episode, Ron and Kristin reflect on the life and leadership of Charlie Kirk, Who was assassinated on September 10, 2025. He was the founder of Turning Point USA (TPUSA). From his Illinois roots to building one of the nation’s most influential youth organizations, Kirk’s journey offers powerful lessons for leaders in any field.
The conversation explores:
- Starting Young: Courage over credentials.
- Movement Building: How TPUSA scaled from an idea to hundreds of staff and millions in revenue.
- Speaking Where People Are: Kirk’s debates and media strategy.
- Conviction Under Fire: Holding values firm in the storm.
- Legacy in Motion: Institutions, networks, and influence that outlive the leader.
Kristin and Ron share practical takeaways you can apply right away—launching your own 90-day proof of concept, documenting systems, and meeting your audience where they are.
Sources:
- The Washington Post, AP News, ABC News, Wikipedia, Fox News, AAUP, The Singju Post
Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop
Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".
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Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com