The Dirty Side of Leadership
Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast disrupts the status quo by discussing hot-button topics that most podcasters are afraid to touch. Ron and Kristin apply their combined 50+ years of real leadership experience and take both a humorous and raw look behind closed doors. Often sharing personal experiences both in the workplace and out, they answer listener questions and breakdown 'dirty lessons' from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".
The Dirty Side of Leadership
Romantic Betrayal with Dr. Merissa Ferrara Elisei | Episode 141
Ron and Kristin sit down with award-winning professor and betrayal expert Dr. Merissa Ferrara Elisei to break down one of the most emotionally charged topics: romantic betrayal.
From why people cheat to why it hurts so badly — and why some stay while others walk — Merissa explains the psychology, biology, and communication patterns behind heartbreak. The episode is entertaining, eye-opening, and surprisingly relatable.
What We Cover:
- The most overlooked forms of betrayal
- Why people cheat
- Why betrayal feels physically painful
- Why reactions vary (anger, shutdown, detective mode)
- Why some people stay after betrayal
- How celebrity betrayals mirror real life
- Whether “once a cheater, always a cheater” is true
- Red flags and green flags in relationships
- How trust breaks and repairs in both love and leadership
Who This Episode Is For:
Anyone curious about relationships, psychology, trust, or how betrayal impacts both personal and professional life.
Final Takeaway:
Betrayal is painful — but it’s also a moment for clarity, insight, and rebuilding. Healing is possible, and trust can be restored with the right tools.
Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop
Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".
Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com
Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com
