This Is My Circus

🎪 Episode 85: Hot Tub Honey Buns, Area 51 Fires, & the End of an Era (For Now)

Stefanie Navarro, Meredith Hill Episode 85

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Welcome back to This Is My Circus — where parenting is wild, hot tubs are overcrowded, and mermaids might just be real. In this final episode (for now), we’re going out with chaos, conspiracies, cringe, and a little cry. Buckle up — it’s a ride.

✨ Inside This Episode:

  • 🛁 Vacation recap: 5 teenage boys + 1 tiny Airbnb hot tub + double-fisting honey buns = chaos we did not plan for
  • 🚪 Wrong door + stolen Oreos = peak awkward
  • 🦙 Capybara obsessions, otter encounters & a Charlotte-area zoo with a sketchy website that needs a Honey Drop glow-up
  • 🐬 Area 51’s on fire (literally), mermaids may be locked in Nevada, and dolphins might be telepathic
  • 👀 Public cheating caught at Coldplay and a credit union office. It’s giving main character energy (but not in a good way)
  • 🛏️ Creepy bunk bed request for 36 kids leads to a registry check and a police arrest — thank you, Texas furniture guy
  • 🎤 And… we’re officially hitting pause on the podcast. (For now!) We love y’all and explain why we’re stepping back.

🎙️ “Am I the A-Hole?”

A wedding guest performs the entire Catholic ceremony (organ, vocals, the whole thing)… then finds out he was never invited as a guest. So he sues the couple — and wins.
Verdict: Everyone’s the a-hole. Including the groom, who said “I’ll talk to her” and never did.

📚 Book Chat: Zodiac Academy: The Awakening by Caroline Peckham

Twin sisters with all four elemental powers are thrown into a magical school full of bullying, betrayal, and elite fae chaos. It's giving Harry Potter meets Vampire Diaries with a splash of Gossip Girl and a whole lot of hot underwear.

⭐️ Rating: 8/10
 🌶️ Spice: 2 chili peppers for Book 1, but it definitely heats up in future books
🎧 Audiobook: Distracting sound effects + identical twin POVs = mild confusion
💬 Our verdict: Confusing but addictive. We’re already three books deep.

📖 Next Book Pick (For Those Continuing Along):

All This and More by Peyton Shepherd
A twisty “choose your path” novel about big life decisions and multiple realities. Perfect for fans of Sliding Doors, The Midnight Library, and interactive fiction.

📣 ANNOUNCEMENT: Taking a Break

Between new businesses, football seasons, and our senior-year mom feels, we’re taking a pause from regular podcasting to soak up every second. This isn’t goodbye forever — it’s just a break.

We love you. We’ll miss you. And we might just randomly drop back into your feed.

Welcome to, this is my circus, the podcast where we embrace the chaos and keep it real about parenting, pop culture, true crime, and the books we can't put down because let's be honest, life is one big circus and we're just trying to survive with caffeine, sarcasm, and a little true crime obsession. So if you love unfiltered conversation, questionable parenting hacks, and deep dives into the things that keep us up at night, you're in the right place. Buckle up, grab your popcorn, and let's get into the chaos./You were, uh, trying to figure out what color? Do you know what color? I think, just because I, I have, I can't make a decision right now. Mm-hmm. Because I should not be making a decision right now. I'm just gonna do my roots. I saw this thing the other night that was funny. It was, this girl who had been at, I wanna say like medical school and you know how we do drastic things when we shouldn't. And she was like, every time I wanted to cut my bangs, I would cut my Guinea pigs and it showed all these crazy haircuts on the Guinea pig, like with the, like, one time I had like a widow's peak and one time like the terrible bang straight across. It was hilarious. It was hilarious. Are you recording?'cause that's a funny story. It's, yeah, I think so. I'm Stephanie. I'm Meredith. And welcome to, this is my circus. I'm sorry, I forgot your birthday present. It's okay. I'll bring it back tomorrow. Okay. Give me another reason to come hang out. Yay. How have you been? Good. Good. I, um, kind of, I dunno. Busy. Yeah. Yeah. We'll figure that. Busy. Busy. I liked our mini app we dropped last week. I did too. I thought that was fun. Yeah. Nice, short, sweet. Mm-hmm. To the point. Yep. No fluff. No, no, no fluff. None of this silly banter. Mm. None of the silly banter. So we went on vacation. that was one of the reasons we had to kind of do a mini up. Mm-hmm. Because we had some things going on. And let me tell you, so it was me and Brian. Mm-hmm. And Jackson. Okay. Told Jackson he could invite a friend because, you know, so he invited four. Are you serious? I'm so serious. Oh my God. So it was me and Brian, and then five teenage boys. It was not the most relaxing vacation I've ever been on. I would say so. But one of the most entertaining. Mm-hmm. Okay. So we, when we went to Callenburg that first night, we had an Airbnb. Brian and I got there in about four hours, which is not bad, you know, stopping a couple of times or whatever. Seven hours later they show up. They had been stopping to take pictures. Oh. Peacocks and all of them. And they went to like get Walmart snacks and they did all like, we were only there for like three days. You would've thought that it was gonna be like a month long thing. So the Airbnb, we stayed at the first night, had a hot tub. Okay. Well, Brian and I had already got it in in there and we were like, let's get out. The boys are coming. I had to do some work stuff, turn in my time sheet and stuff like that. So I was like, I'll we'll get out and we'll wait. And then they can come and we'll help them get settled and show them around, whatever. So here they come. Mm-hmm. 10, 11 o'clock at night, whatever it was. Loud cra you know, doing all the, yep. Let's go. You know, all the things. So they decide they're all gonna go get in the hot tub. Let me see. It was, it was well over a thousand pounds worth of kids because there was one kid that's not a football lineman. Mm-hmm. They get in the hot tub and there's just water coming out over the hot tub. I assume it was outside. It was outside. One of the boys has got, he had stopped. At their, at the store and he had honey buns and he's sitting in there with honey buns in each hand, double fist and honey buns. They're all trying to fit in there, but I mean, they're big guys. Yeah. I mean, just shy of 300 pounds, some of'em. So they are, they're not small. And so they're all like barely fitting in this little, oh my gosh. That was just the start of it. Take a picture. Oh, I have the video. Do you wanna see it? Yes. It was so much fun. Again, not relaxing at all, but it was a lot of fun. So how did, how did the realization that he invited four kids come up? Was it like, Hey Jackson, which one of which one of your friends is coming? No, it was a, Hey mama, I think I messed up. And you know, I start thinking, oh my gosh, what have we done? And he's like, well, I invited. Multiple people thinking that only one, maybe two could come. And he was like, but they all can come and this guy's gonna drive and we're all gonna ride with him. I was like, okay. Well then Banton couldn't go. Okay. And I was like, oh, okay, so we're just out. Nope, he invited somebody else. So here's the, here's the video. Oh, it's a tiny little, it's a tiny hot tub, but okay. There's the double fist in the honey buns, so anyway, times have changed because at that age I was double fist in something else. They're really good sweet boys. We were not, no, I'm just kidding. We had our moments, but it was just a fun time. Yeah a lot, a lot of stories happened. They made some good memories together. I need another vacation. Yeah. Yeah. We need a girls trip. Absolutely. We've been talking about this. We've just gotta schedule it. Do it. I know. Are you booking it right now? Yeah. No. Um, one other funny thing that happened though when we were there is I ran out to the car to get something uh, so after that first night we stayed in, condos and there was like several different buildings I got ours all mixed up and I'm banging on the wrong room door and I'm like, oh my gosh, I know they're in there. What are they doing? And I continued to bang and all of a sudden, and I had food in my hand.'cause I had gone to like get some of the snacks and stuff from the car. And this woman who I had never seen in my life, and this little kid opened the door and I was like, I'm so sorry. It's the wrong room. And there was this old man, like papa was sitting in the living room and was like waving. I was like, Hey. And they were like, we'll take the Oreos. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, you won't. So two stories kind of sum up the whole adventure. But it was a good time. Good. Yeah. It was a good time. But yeah, definitely need the girls trip now. Mm-hmm. To recover from the family trip. Oh my gosh. I can't believe I went to the wrong door. Family friends. Oh my God. Oh my God. We haven't really done anything. Okay, so Dylan mm-hmm. Is currently obsessed with, you know, like, those like giant like Guinea pig looking things from, um, like cap barrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can never, I call'em capis'cause I can never, yeah. I don't know if I'm saying it right, but, so Dylan's like, they're like the coolest freaking animals ever. Mm-hmm. And at Darby Farms in Charlotte, like, it's like. 15 minutes from here. Okay. They have an experience to like, you know, I like an experience matrix. So they have that and they have otters shoddy? Yes. Are y'all going? I think so, yeah. So yesterday I was looking and their website to get tickets. It is like super hard to navigate. It's not an easy, they need honey drop media to update their socials and their website. it's like just not easy. Mm-hmm. To do everything. Because if you want this, the general admissions included and you have to buy the general admission for each animal. Instead of one general mission you and then add on, you can't do like an add-on. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. We were looking and then like the otters are only available at certain times mm-hmm. Of the day. So the otters are sometimes available? Sometimes not. Not, yeah. But they've got a very busy social calendar. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I am like super excited that it's so close. Yes. Um, they also have like lemurs and you can do like the whole shebang. Okay. Which is like a two hours long. It's your general admission to do the walkthrough. Uh, and then you get certain, I guess interactions or whatever, but Okay. It does, it doesn't say you're guaranteeing these interactions. Right. Like, I wanna do the two that he really wants to do. So Yeah, of course. But yeah. That's awesome. I know I'm so, they've got kangaroo, but like now I'm kinda scared of Kroos. Yeah, absolutely. I've got a little bit of a fear Uhhuh. Um, hopefully not, they're not the like Arnold Schwarzenegger looking ones. So what do you get to do? Do you get to pet them? Yeah, so it just says not guaranteed to touch, because I guess it depends on how, their temperament is that day. Mm-hmm. But all the videos that I saw, they're all super chill it looks like. And so yeah, they've got lemurs,, which lemurs are not like the I like to move it, move it little guys like. Right, right, right. They're not, they're not King Julian. No, they are not King Julian like. They don't look like King Julian. I still look a little different. There's no fruit crown going on. So I was like, yeah, that's not one that I really have an interest in doing. Mm-hmm. There's like a porcupine experience. Have you seen baby porcupines? Yes. I just saw a video on them so freaking cute. Adores. Yeah. And there was not a raccoon experience though. But it's tons of different like animals. Oh. So gonna be so fun. I know. And then I was like, well, should we wait till it gets a little cooler out so they're more active? I don't because it's so freaking hot right now. It is. It's disgusting. Today's not bad. Yeah. Compared to how it's been, but mm-hmm. Yeah, when we've been cutting grass, like we're all just soaked. It's crazy. It's gross. You're outside for like 10 seconds and you're crunched. Yeah. Um, I would do a little looky looky on your, search engines there to see like, are they more active or did they, did any of those animals hibernate? No, but not these. They're handled all day long. but like bears and zeuss still hibernate, don't they? I dunno. I don't know either. If you're a bear listening, let us, let us know if you hibernate. I mean, in Nashville we would go all year long'cause we had like season passes. Yeah. And the animals, you feel you were seen Yeah. Seeing all the things. Yeah. That was a good zoo. Nashville really the best play area for kids. Like we would go just to go to the play area. That's awesome though, for, I mean, it was like the, all these giant like, rope, um, oh yeah. Stuff. I mean like, everything was like, jungley. Yeah. But it was so cool. Have you been to the Martha Rivers and Guston? That park? That one was always fun too. I know it probably doesn't hold a candle to that, but I picture that times a hundred. Yeah, no, it was like huge, huge, huge, Oh, I know Dylan loved that. Oh my God, we had so much fun. Mm-hmm. But he was like two. He, he barely remembers it. I know. Isn't that the way, that's the way it always is. We did go there for spring break, when he was in fourth grade. Mm-hmm. We went back to, and my aunt and uncle still lived there, so, we went to go see them and we went back to the zoo. Aw. He's like, this is. Not what I ever, I would, I remember, I'm like, do you remember or are you just thinking of pictures because Yeah, you are too. I'll do that sometimes. Like I, I feel like I remember things, then I see a picture, I'm like, Nope. That's the perspective I remember. So, yeah. Well that will be a good time. Mm-hmm. I'm excited for you. Yeah. Don't mean to be Debbie Downer here. Mm-hmm. But after that heartwarming, fun situation you have planned, did you see Ozzy died? Yes. I thought he was way older than 76. So Fine. I feel like he was 76, so, okay. When I was in middle school. Mm-hmm. So we're talking like early nineties, 9 90, 89, whatever. Like all the devil worshipers. We were always like, they listened to Ozzy and I thought he was 76 then come to find out. Yeah, no, I, I thought he was older too. Did you used to watch when he was on MTV? Yes. The show? Yeah. Yes, absolutely. And it's not my genre Right. Of music. Right. But I just thought it was so fascinating, Oh yeah. That the, their family dynamics. Oh, a hundred percent. And I did not fact check this, so I don't know, but I'm hearing that he died in like Switzerland and he chose to die. Oh. So, I don't know. Do some. Peeps do some research on that one.'cause I don't know if that's true or not. Yeah. I mean, he was out there. Yeah. Yeah. He, he had a lot of drug damage. And also Theo Huxtable. I just saw that this morning. He died yesterday. Yeah. How are we supposed to live without, Theo was like the big brother to everybody, you know? Yeah. Kind of had a little crush on him too. Mm-hmm. He was good looking. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, sad, sad, sad. Yeah. Oh, Dylan, do we talk about this, the concert that he wanted to go to? No, I don't think so. So he's been sending me like, concerts, the last six months and I'm like, cool, let me know if you wanna go. Yeah, I'll get the tickets. Yeah. Let me know. Let me know. And like, every time it's he waits too long and then he's like, I'll just forget it. And every festival that he sent me, he really only wanted to see,, treaty, Oak Revival. Okay. It's like a country rockish kind of Okay. Band. that's one of his favorite bands, they were playing at a couple of festivals and it was like a Kentucky, or it was in Alabama or somewhere. Mm-hmm. So they were coming to South Carolina in September, so I got pit tickets. Nice. It's like, well, do you want to bring a friend? Right. And he's like, can it just be me and you? And I was like, are you serious? And he's like. Yeah, I would just like really like just me and you go. And I was like, yeah, I'm so excited for you for that. That sounds like an amazing, amazing time. I was like, he still likes to hang out with his mom, nursing guys. Nursing. So it's in a smaller venue. Yeah. all, there's no like assigned seating or anything, but there's like the pit area and then there's the general, is it relatively close to our area? An hour and a half away easily. East. East. I've heard of it, but I, but super excited. Yeah. Let's take it. We are all set to go. You now, there's also something coming to Clover in September. Did you see that? Mm-hmm. I don't, I did not know any of the artists, but it's a Friday night in September. It's like Nashville comes to Clover or something. Really? And there's three artists that are coming and you have to buy tickets and they provide seats and I think they're having like Nashville style food trucks and stuff, so I'll have to check that out. Yeah, well, Jackson and I bonded a little bit with our, me and him time by watching the first episode, season three of the summer, I turned pretty Okay. Me and Dylan watched the new Dexter. I mean, that might be next. But I have been dying to watch this and he was out of town with his grandparents and he finally got back and we watched it and I was like, oh my God, this is just cringe worthy. It's really, it's not as great as the other seasons. Mm-hmm. But you know, I'm, I'm in this far, I gotta figure it out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, but that was fun just sitting around watching TV at midnight with him is sometimes just, yeah. What do you need to do? Mm-hmm. You love when they wanna hang out with us? Yes. Makes me so happy. Um, I have to show you our text, message from this morning. So he gets up at about six 30 to go to football practice. Mm-hmm. And I just text him to wake him up and make sure he's up. So I am not a morning person at all. He is not a morning person at all. This is our text interaction. Okay. I'm gonna read mine in the blue. Mm-hmm. You read his in the gray. Okay. Okay. So 6:30 AM I say morning. Morning. Great day. You awake? Yes. Love, love. That was it. That was our whole interaction before 1130 this morning while he was getting ready for football. Like under 10. Under 10 words. Okay. It works. It does, it does. That just killed me. I sent it to my sister because she knows that I'm not a more person. She was like, oh my gosh. She's just like you. Well, Dylan got, the bags in his truck, so his truck now twerks, like it does, like the up and down. Okay. I just had a mental picture of, oh, do you think where, um, Uhhuh where it did? I wanna see it do it. Well, I got a video. Okay. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Does he like, like what, what does, is there a point of it? Well, you can have it squatted and if you get pulled over, you can put it back. I mean, that's great. That's great. But I mean, he goes to like a lot of truck shows and stuff like that, and they do all the truck things and he put like a, a speaker wall in the back,, instead of like regular speakers. There's like a speaker wall in the truck now. So That's so funny. So Jackson's birthday is this weekend, he'll be 16. Oh gosh. And I asked him, I what do you want for your birthday? Like, do you want anything for your car? And he's the anti dill. And he was like, well, I mean, I really don't even know what else I, I was like, I, I don't know either. He was like, well, I got my windows tinted and my system's pretty good. I don't know what else I would need. Dylan would have a whole list. Gosh, yes. Yeah. Or, or tools that he use. Use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he said. He, and he was like, mom, I think I know what I want for my birthday's. Birthdays in November. That's okay. And I was 10 ahead. I was like, what? And he is like, whatever the tool. Something kind of tool thing. He's like, I think I want this and this. Yeah. And of course I was gonna get tattoos together and I was like, yes. On the tattoos for sure. Uhhuh, is he gonna get the one that he's always wanted? Mm-hmm. Remind me what that is. Um, it's like green darks. Okay. Okay. That's right. Yeah. So cute. Do you know where you're gonna go to get it done? There's a place in Charlotte that is supposed to be really good, but the place in Clover, everybody that has gone there has said it was really good. Yeah. So I'm not opposed to either. Right. There is a place in Gastonia. Mm-hmm. That's where I got mine. I keep seeing stuff on TikTok about them that are, they're great. And then they do like. Tiny tattoo Tuesdays. Oh no, they don't. For$10 you can get like out of like their book of whatever tattoos. The little itty bitty tattoos. And then on Thursdays it's the$30 Thursdays where it's like two inch by two inch or two and a half inch tattoos. Why are we here? Let's go Thursday. Okay. What do you wanna get? What's in the book? Do you know? I don't know. We can go look. Yeah, let's go. We can always go look and then ask to see like the tiny Chat two Tuesday, book two. And see, we need to see the Tiny Tattoo Tuesday book too. We don't have to go like at that on those days. We can just ask if we can see the books and then decide if there's anything that we wanna get. Oh my gosh. Yeah,$10 on Tuesdays for like the itty bitty little baby tattoos. And then on Thursdays it's$30. I won't either one. And then they also have like a piercing day. If like you want piercings, I'm okay with that. Yeah. Anymore, I almost wanted my nose pierced. I think that's adorable. I love it. Jackson's got some friends that, that have theirs pierced or some even I have some friends. I sneeze so much though. I'm like, I it wouldn't not, it wouldn't work. Yeah. Olivia's got hers pierce and it's so pretty. I have to wear those strips at night. Put my nose up. Can you imagine? And you know what the bad thing is about those is my face ID doesn't recognize me when I have that strip on between that and my forehead wrinkle patch, it has no idea who I am. No security, but my wrinkle patch is working well. What, which ones did you get? Not just like the regular tape stuff, but it's one, I, I'll have to look it up for you, but it's got like the V that goes down like right here. And do you get it on? Or TikTok, of course, the Amazon. Um, all right, so should we make our, our announcement now? Yeah. I think this is a good time as any, so we, um, have announced that we both have started businesses and thankfully getting busier. Yes. And Dylan's going into his senior year. Jackson's starting football and things have just kind of gotten a little hectic for us. So we are going to be taking a break. Yeah. Don't know when we back. It's not you, it's us. No, it's them. No. Yeah, they're just in a really busy season right now and with us just only having the one kiddo, we, we wanna be a hundred percent present for these big milestones. And, Steph especially takes a lot of time between editing and doing all the socials and stuff, and I've not made it a secret that I just show up and hang out, but, we just really want to be able to enjoy every single minute there. Now that's not saying we might not pop in every once in a while. Yeah. We might just randomly Right. Throw, drop up in your, your feed and we might come back together and, you know, start doing it, on a regular basis again too. But for now, between. Life and these new businesses that both seem to be taken off pretty well. We just, which we actually both have on our colors today. Me too. For our businesses. Not planned. No. We just both really need to take a step back. Yeah. But, we'll still be hanging out. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. This is, this is, I posted it on my Facebook today. This is our therapy. Yeah. My therapy. Anyway, I don't know if you feel that way. Yes. Okay. If you feel like you're babysitting. No, I've said that over and over and over. I know it's cheaper than therapy. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. So, we might, like we said, we might pop up in your, um, you know, new episodes. Sometimes we might not, but, you can always reach out to us. We'll enter any, please do. Please do. And, we'll see where future takes us. All right, well, let's get onto to, um, am I the A-hole? No. Okay. On July 4th, area 51 caught on fire, did you see the No. Yeah, it took me a minute to process that. That's like Nevada, right? Yeah. Okay. Like where, like the all like Yeah, the aliens. Aliens, yeah. Us Smith Uhhuh. It caught on fire. Yeah. There was a big fire. So right before that though, there was some videos, like clips that went out mm-hmm. there's this one guy who says that I guess he has a friend that like a retired employee. Mm-hmm. And tells him all like the stuff you know, of what has, what goes mm-hmm. What goes on. Mm-hmm. Like the alien stuff and whatever. And like, it's all legit. I've already said this. I believe in all of it, I think. Right. I believe in all of it. Right. So he said that the dude told him that they are keeping mermaids there and experimenting on them. And this like, I guess just kind of leaked out. Okay. right before 4th of July and then there with all these fires. Mm. And they're saying that it was like a lightning strike that started it. Mm-hmm. But is it like trying to get rid of all the things? Mm-hmm. What else is down there? Is that where right? The Epstein files are Maybe, maybe, um, oh, forgot. Yeah. So I, me going down this fricking rabbit hole at 3:00 AM Right. Because I'm like, wait, what? Tell me all about it. My face. Right. I'm in Tell before. So the comment section'cause now they're saying space is actually in the ocean, because of the center of the earth, whatever. There, actually have been released documents saying that there's aliens of ocean. I mean, I kind of believe that was some of the stuff that washes up, but NASA used to study the ocean and they like dipped out and now study the space like what was down there. Oh, lots of stuff, right? Like fish with the one light over it, dude finding emo, right? Yeah. There's crazy stuff down there. Yeah. So, as I'm continuing mm-hmm. On this awful rabbit hole of oh my god. Yeah. What? We don't know anything. No. We have been lying to our whole lives. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like, do I go on the ocean? Right. I know. That's why literally ETS gonna come out. Like I don't, so there was a, YouTube video that was linked and I'm like, okay, I'm in. Right. Show me all the things. Right. And it was on the History channel on YouTube. Okay. And it was a clip from UFO Hunters, called Underwater Area 51. And there's actually a website for, and like the acronym is A-U-T-E-C. And I did not write down what it was for. Okay. But this is where the Bermuda Triangle is the underground, area 51. Okay. And that's the aliens and all the testing that they do. Mm-hmm. And that's why all these planes disappear, disappear and all these electro whatever. Mm-hmm. So they were interviewing people and the people that used to work around there, and they said that. This is like so bananas, but I totally like, believe in all uhhuh stuff. Uhhuh, like, it just messes with my head. Yeah. And I'm also very gullible, so if it's not real, I still bought into it. But they said that like these random land masses would pop out of the ocean. They would be in their, their big boats or uhhuh over like their ships and like as big as Manhattan. Mm-hmm. I've heard that before. Mm-hmm. Just randomly pop out the water and then disappear and it's Oh, I didn't know they disappeared. Yeah. What the heck? I dunno. But the things in the ocean are creepier than things on land. And then when there are these tsunamis and all these new species Yeah. End up on land. Mm-hmm. Uh, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I know you've seen, I wanna say it was in Japan, the, um, mermaids that washed up. Yeah. They're not, it's not aerial, no. Mm-hmm. They're sirens. Mm-hmm. Crazy looking. It's crazy. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. Mm-hmm. Damn. I wanna know all the things, but then I'm afraid to know all the things. Right. I was just thinking, okay, so Jackson just went on a cruise. Mm-hmm. That's scary. I mean, all it would take, like, don't know, they could just suck the ship under. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm with you. I wanna know the things, but I'm terrified to do the things. Yeah. Speaking of Ocean, did you know that sometimes this is funny. Dolphins will antagonize puffer fish. Yes. So it release the venom and they get high. Yes. Listen, dolphins know their stuff and then they'll play with them. They'll just like balance them around. I love that story. I've been meaning to say something about that for the longest time. Well, you know, it's illegal now to talk to dolphins the government has made it illegal that you're not allowed to talk to dolphins. Woo. I'm glad there's,'cause they, uh, there has been research by whatever government agency Oh my gosh. That they can supposedly telepathically talk to humans. I mean, flipper could, um, especially pregnant women. Oh. And I'm like, there is nothing that would never make me want to carry mm-hmm. At this age ever. But that could almost, that would be the one thing, it could almost entice me. Have you seen a dolphin be born? Yes. Thank you. I did. Thank you. Because don't listen, Siri. No. We're not talking about birds ever again. I wouldn't mind communicating with a dolphin either. Maybe I depends on what it wants to tell me. I'd either get one that's really stupid or mean and be like, dopey. I want one that's gonna give me all the dolphin tea. That's what I want. Fill me in on everything going on down there. Um, well down there, as in Fort Worth, Texas. Mm-hmm. I was scrolling and saw that this dude walks into a furniture store in Fort Worth, Texas mm-hmm. And approaches the salesperson saying he needed triple bunk beds, that they all had full-size mattresses. He said he needed at least three kids to be able to fit on each mattress and needed. Four of these, so essentially 36 children. Mm-hmm. So all the people were getting freaked out. Like, what the heck? This is not normal. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This is weird. It was like an older dude just mm-hmm. Vibes were off. Yeah. So they take down his information. His name was Emory Garner. Okay. get his phone number address and they're like, Hey, let me look into this and let me see what I can do and send him away. So then they get on, do a background check or search him or whatever, and he's on the registry, the SA registry. Mm. So our handy dandy furniture man was like, let me just drive by this dude's house and mm-hmm. See what's up. Mm-hmm. Drives there. And he takes, this is all on video, he takes a video and there's metal bars surrounding the whole house, like on the house, on the windows and stuff. Everywhere. Everything. Oh my gosh. Front and back. There are. Metal bars. Okay. Around the entire house. That's a fire hazard one. Mm-hmm. Like, there's no way that that asked any kind of inspections. No. Right. And so he ends up talking to a neighbor. The neighbor's like, yeah. It's like super sketch, like mm-hmm. Whatever. And, did say, I think one of the videos said that they did maybe see children or something with, you know, they weren't sure. Mm-hmm. Well, a second person lives in this house as well. Who has another sa offender? Oh my gosh. From the registry. A dude old man, like old, like old. And I don't know if they're like father son or if it's like any connection there, whatever. Yeah. one guy is rich. He has a trust fund. Guy that went into the, to the store, so furniture store calls police, and was like, yo, like this is like super sketch. He's owned the registry, he's asking for beds for children. Like he's right, whatever. So they go and they end up arresting the guy. Don't know what they found in the house, Uhhuh, whatever. Right. But the one girl that initially reported on this, she just kinda shared the other guy's videos. She's gonna get threats from people and they're like, you need to take this down. You're ruining somebody's life. And if he got arrested again, there had to have been something in that meeting. It was something, it was something they didn't just take him in for questioning. They arrested. Yeah. Yeah. So that is creepy. So thank God. Like this furniture store. Yeah. Trusted their instinct. Yeah. And knew something was off a hundred percent. 36 children he wanted beds for. That's crazy. Bananas. It's a good job furniture store, dude. Yeah, absolutely. What an idiot too. Mm-hmm. What? Crooks are stupid and I'm here for it. Or not just crooks, but you know, bad people. Well, we've got some bad spouses that have gotten caught this week, uh, doing their thing. The Yep. Two different instances. Oh, there are? Yeah. Well, so the cold play concert, I think we have all seen. Yes. And I love that they got called out by the lead singer. Oh my gosh. And now like, I feel so bad for their spouses. Oh, a hundred percent. Have you seen though the statement released by the wife? Mm-hmm. Good for her? Yeah. Good for her. But now like. Cold playing somebody is a verb. Mm-hmm. Like, yeah. So who's the other? So this is horrible. Okay. Um, a credit union in Johnston City, Tennessee. A lady was in line just trying to pay her bill and looks over and you know how like they have the offices mm-hmm. Outlining, like in the mm-hmm. Lobby area or whatever. Right. And a lot of those offices are just frosted glass. They're not walls with floor. Right. Like, it's not private. Right. You can't really see in, but you can see mm-hmm. Shadows or bodies and you can hear and Yeah, whatever. they're just sitting there buying their own business in mind, waiting to pay a bill and she looks over and sees it's, it was the bank manager, and she was getting it on with an old dude who was not her husband. And you can clearly see like. The, the shadows, you could see movements, you could see it all. I mean, like you couldn't see, see, but you could definitely see what they were doing. You knew it. Was he an employee? Do we know? No, I'm just, I don't, I didn't say it was an employee. Okay. He just said, and nobody knows who this person is. Okay. But they know it was, it was the bank manager. And I'm like, okay, so you have to be like a, a really hated manager, right? Mm-hmm. Because, you know, all the employees saw what was going on. No, no. Not one person tried to knock on the door. No one person tried to call and they were like, Becky, Becky's gone. I don't really know what the lady's name is, but bye Becky. Yeah. Had to have been somebody that they were just ready to get rid of. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I can't, I mean, in the middle of like, public, public had to know that, that that was not. Solid. I mean, if you're a bank manager, you are reasonably intelligent. You would think, you would think, and you know, you, you've probably looked at that room before for whatever reason and been like, Hey, you know what? I can see that lamp there. I, I would assume. She got caught and it is, the video went viral. The person that was in July took the video and it's like, so the original video, I think that got taken out, but it was stitched so many times. Uhhuh, it's all over. Like they're taking that down. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'm sure I'll run into that, but I, yeah, the other one, did you see his statement? Like, what a jerk, it was like, sorry, not sorry, right? Yeah. That what was, should have been a private moment. No, you were out in public and you were Right. Being a well, and the thing about it too is if they would not have reacted the way that they did, it would've moved on. So, ha ha. I'm glad you got busted. They're either really private or they're having an affair. I died when I heard, oh my gosh. Mm-hmm. And they called them out. Mm-hmm. It was awesome. And they stayed on them super long. Mm-hmm. I was like, and it looked like she was laughing. She was laughing until she saw that she was on the, the, the Bigo truck, whatever. Because I mean, you can see her like in the pers the, the woman. Then she covered her face. She's like, oh no. Yeah. And then not only the jokes about them and the memes and stuff, but then I didn't realize there were that many people at a Coldplay concert. Have you seen those jokes too? That's great. So Little John, you know, from our Yeah. Clubbing days. Yeah. Is all over the place right now touring, and I'm like dying because there was a, country rock festival. Okay. And I was looking at the lineup because Dylan had sent me,'cause a different person he wanted to see was on it. And I was like, Dylan, did you look at the lineup? And he is like, no. Why? I'm like, little John the yin yang twins is on there. And, Afro man shut talk. Like it's such a weird lineup. It's like my playlist. Right, right. But it's such a weird, our bipolar playlist. Yeah. With everything from the yin yang twins to Yeah. Um, Hank Williams or whoever. Yeah. The country or something like that, it's called. That sounds great. I was like, this is bananas. That sounds like a lot of fun. Saw a clip of them performing. I'm like, oh my God, they're so old. Oh, are yeah, that's true. I cannot believe how old they are. I know. And then they performed at SeaWorld. There were people in the car. Like I thought we, we, we canceled SeaWorld because liked animals. You know what's popped in my feet a lot lately though, is the mime at SeaWorld. You seen him? Yeah. He's funny. He's a funny guy. You know what made me feel, there's been a couple things made me fall this week, but the main one was when our, something was announced that Frozen was from 2 20 13. Oh. Mm-hmm. That was 12 years ago. Mm-hmm. Holy crap. Yeah. Moving on. I did see another clip. I think it was genuine at, like whatever tour. Mm-hmm. And he tried to jump down one stage to the next and he. Didn't, his knees were not cooperating and he tried to grab onto the sign interpreter. The sign interpreter is like, like still signing, trying to looked down like, oh shit. Oh my gosh. His knees weren't in, his knees weren't in. I saw something I can't remember the exact details, but there was a sign language interpreter that wasn't really signing anything. I see that. I follow a girl that teaches all the curse words in sign language. Have you learned any? Yeah. Do you wanna share one with the class? No. Okay. I was like, Dylan, look what I learned how to find. And he's like, you just told me to fuck you. I like, how do you know that? Right? Well, you're officially bilingual now, so you can Well, I can say a lot of curse words in Spanish. Well, trilingual. Look at you. I only know the swear and I know beer. See Cvaa. There you go. I'll buy you a bathroom. That's what I needed to know when I went to Mexico in college. Beer and bathroom, I mean, and tequila. Well, I'm, I've never been prouder. Yeah. Tequila is one of those. I'm like, um, smell like bad decisions. Bad decisions. I saw a video that if you pour the alcohol through a Brita, it takes away the alcohol taste. Like, it's like, no, like we're allowed to try that one. And I'm like, why didn't I know that you know this? Right. But like, where was this that's worth buying a Brita for? And who decided to try this? A genius. A scientist. A scientist major. Yeah. Obviously not us. Sarah, you were having a scientist house party. That's funny. That's funny. Really? A party I would not have been at, but no, but no, when that info got leaked to like, we'd be there. Yeah. Thanks dude. Cheap tequila was one of the worst decisions. Oh yes. Yeah. Alright. Do you want to do, am I the A-hole? Absolutely. Okay. It's another wedding one? Mm-hmm. Okay. Am I the a-hole for suing my friends after singing and playing for their entire wedding and not getting paid? I. 30-year-old male am a lawyer, but I'm also very active in music. I sing, I play piano, organ, and guitar. Pretty much any instrument I can get my hands on. I've performed at several weddings often as personal favor for close friends. A while back, my friends Jimmy and Belle asked me if I could handle the entire music for their Catholic wedding mass. And you know, those things are freaking, yeah. Oh my God. That meant singing and playing organ through the whole whatever that word is. Lit, lit, liturgy, lit, liturgy, liturgy, processional, offertory, communion, recessional, et cetera. I agreed, assuming I was being invited as a guest and doing this out of friendship, but as the wedding approached, I noticed I hadn't received any kind of invitation, not even to the mass. So I asked Bell and she replied, oh, we had to trim the guest list, but you can still come early to rehearse and do the music translation. I wasn't invited. I wasn't even treated like a guest, just free labor. Still, I honored the commitment. I arrived early, rehearsed, sang and played for the entire mass alone, packed up and left. No acknowledgement, no token, no food, no seat, no thank you. So I sent them a professional invoice, a reasonable rate for performing solo at a full wedding mass. Nothing excessive, just what it was worth. They didn't pay it be ghosted me, Jimmy said he'd talked to her, but nothing happened. They ignored follow-ups after 30 days. I sent a demand letter, no response. So I sued them for breach of oral contract and unjust enrichment. We have written messages confirming the arrangement, screenshots of Bell, asking me to perform. Uh, we had timing, songs and expectations. I represented myself. They showed up. Shocked that I followed through. Guess what? I won. The judge ruled in my favor and ordered them to pay the full amount plus court costs. Now our friend group is on fire. Mm-hmm. Some say I went too far. Others quietly say, good for you. Bail's been posting cryptic quotes about betrayal and money over friendship. So now I'm wondering, am I the a-hole for suing people? I once considered friends after they use me for free live music interviews to pay. Alright. Miss Wedding Guru, um, your take. Okay. So lots of questions. Mm-hmm. Who was he friends with? Was he friends with both? Like I, I mean, I don't think we really got that context. How close were they? You know, personal favor to close friends. Okay. So no, he's performed at, oh yeah. So his friends Jimmy and Bell, so I guess he's friends with both of them. Mm-hmm. I think he's the A-hole. You think so? I do. I do because. He's already said he's done it before. Yeah. As, but he is also invited as a guest to those weddings. No, I think they were in turn also AOLs for not at least feeding him. I think I wouldn't, okay. Okay. Let me start here. Yeah. Is, I don't think it's fair to ask your friends to work at your wedding. Right? Agreed. Um, they should be guessed they should enjoy the wedding, um, to celebrate you. Well, yeah. A yes and no unless, like they, you might want your friends to be like, you know, they sang at my wedding, or they did this at my wedding. Yes. But I think that puts a lot of, mm-hmm. Like weird, like expectations on a friendship. Mm-hmm. If you're my close friends, like I don't want you working at my wedding. Right. I want you to enjoy it and chill. Yeah. Like, I don't want you to be in the DJ booth or whatever. I mean, if they wanted to sing a song mm-hmm. Or wanted to like, you know, like a small part to be part of the wedding. Cool. Mm-hmm. Then it's like a hard to, how do you say no to that too, right? Yeah. We want you to be part of our special day. Can you DJ for free? Yeah. Well, and it would be different if he said, you know, as my gift to you, yeah. I want to do this. And can I stay for the pasta? But I think it's all in the conversation. Right. Around it. Yeah. But she, I think, knew going in, she wasn't inviting him and she just knew he did this for a living and was like, well, I'm just right. He's an attorney. He doesn't need my money. Mm-hmm. I'm very curious on how much it was, how much he sued for. Yeah. the Catholic weddings are like an hour and a half long. Yeah. They're long, they take forever and there is so much up and down and, and pomp and circumstance and all the things and know like the, the, the Organy music. Yeah. It's not a fun time. No. Not really a party there. No. Um, we got married in our, our reverend that married us was like, okay, well, you know, like what kind? I'm like quick. Yeah, sure. To the point. Most are, these days most are really quick. People are usually like, that's it. Like that's it. I was like, keep it as short as you can possibly keep it. I mean, I. I think that the fact that they didn't even tell him he wasn't invited when when they asked him. Right. Because they knew that he was assuming he was invited to the wedding. Yeah. He assumed that was gonna be his gift to them. Mm-hmm. Going to the wedding. Yeah. So I think that they almost tricked him or they knew what they were doing. Yeah. I really do feel like though there's some kind of, we're missing some pieces. Um, probably pro, yeah. They still had him go to the wedding, so it wasn't like there was like a big rift. Right. If they still expected him to come and perform. Right. He addressed it before, like, Hey, I didn't get an invitation. I'm really curious on why Jimmy said he talked to her. Why couldn't Jimmy handle it? Well, because he's a man. I mean, I think taking it to court is a little extreme. I'm not gonna lie. That's my opinion. If, and again, it depends on, to me how much it is. Like what's this friendship worth to you, you know? Well, I obviously not much if he, they didn't invite him after he performed. Yeah. So, I mean, I think, I don't know. I don't know what I would do.'cause I could, I know I would be like, yeah, I'm gonna say thank you though, according to him. Right. I'm like, that's like, you know what, like if, if I went there and spent an hour and a half or whatever it was, right. Doing all this awful music and, well, I shouldn't say awful, not fun music. Right. And I didn't even get a Thank you. There's some acknowledgement. Yeah. That's why I'm saying they're a-holes too. They are, I feel like this, this whole thing was just handled poorly. He should have been allowed to stay and eat if nothing else. They do not have a day of coordinator. They do not have a day of coordinator. I would've handled that. They should have said thank you. They should have given him a token of appreciation if not paying him. Yeah. You know, you usually get your bridesmaids and everything, a gift. Get him something, even something small, just as a thank you. But I, I'm just shocked that he was cut from the guest list. Yeah. still inviting him or, but I would not have expected, okay, I'm performing in the wedding. I wouldn't expect to get an invitation. They know I'm gonna be there, so I'm gonna go to the reception too. But thank God he asked. Yeah. He didn't just show up and there was no spot for him. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Not even in like the worker area. Yeah. Yeah. Not even sitting at the back table with the, the tj. Yeah. Yeah. I I think they're both a, they're everybody in the situations a-holes. Okay. I What do you think? I think that he was like, I'm done with this friendship. Yeah. And I'm cool with like, losing it i'd be really curious how much it was. Yeah. So I mean, outside of the court costs, like what was the invoice for 200 bucks? Yeah. You know, I mean, that seems awfully, awfully just childish to sue over that. But I mean, depending on my mood, I might do it. I don't know. I'm petty and I, I was like, you go, it's the last time that they're going to. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I, I, yeah, I can, I can see it go both ways. Yeah. Um, yeah. I feel like if she had addressed it right or even been like, yo, like, what's up with this? I thought it was just a gift, you know? But she, I think she knew she, she was in the wrong Right. And so she was like, I'm not even gonna go there. It'll blow over. Right. It's how I feel like she took it, I think took it, I think he was expecting ever some kind of response mm-hmm. Or acknowledgement. And he's not wrong for that. No. So the fact that she then ignored everything Right, right after the fact, even after he sent the invoice. Yeah. Not even like, was this a joke? Or like, Hey, I thought this was a gift, you know? Or like, I'm totally sorry. Yeah. My apologies here, I'm gonna pay you. Yeah. I, I, yeah. That's why I think she's an a-hole too, Everybody in this situation. I don't like you. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, if you're not our bookies, we will see you later. eventually, maybe one day. Maybe. But we love you. We love you. Bye. And bookies, learn read. Thank you for coming every week. We appreciate you. Okay. Book this week. Yes. Zodiac Academy by Caroline Peckham. Mm-hmm. Twins secretly born with all four elemental powers are thrown into the ruthless world of the Zodiac Academy, where they must fight to survive. Vengeful Faye, elites, deadly creatures and their own destiny to claim the throne that was meant for them. This book. So we need to make sure, and not triggers, but just warnings. Oh, it was like a bully. Uhhuh, enemies to lovers. Mm-hmm. Kind of trope. Mm-hmm. there was a lot of bullying. Mm-hmm. Okay, so. Audio book. Yeah. Very distracted by the format? Like a dramatic production or something? It was not. So it was not just your readers and it wasn't even just like multiple actors being different characters. There was like music, music and doors playing sound effects. Oh my gosh. Moaning. And it was very distracting. I didn't enjoy it. No, enjoy this format. It took me so long to get past it. Mm-hmm. I, it was distracting to me. I never wanna read another book like this again. Mm-hmm. Give me just a book. Yeah. Yeah. Just the actress. I can do all that in my mind if I want to. Yeah. the same actress played. Tory and Darcy. And so that was hard for me, very hard to distinguish between the two, parts of the book because it was a dual, point of views view. Yeah. So they did like a little like do, do. Yeah. They switched. And the other thing too is their personalities are so similar. It's hard to know which one. You sound the same. They look the same. They're identical twins and then they come across the same. It's not like one is really feisty and one is like really mild or brainy or any, they're very confusing. Mm-hmm. I hope in reading it, it translates better. Mm-hmm. But I still don't know which one was air and which one was whatever. Well, they both had all four, right, but the houses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very confusing. Yes, very confusing. Having, so I didn't like the, the, the format. That was a little bit confusing. Yes. It took me a little while to realize that that little was like changing point of view. Mm-hmm. I meant to go back and listen to the beginning. How old were they? I think 18. Very weird for me. 19, 18 90. Very weird. Why spicy? And I felt like they were in high school. Mm. Well, it was supposed to be college. It was supposed to be college, but mm-hmm. I just felt like they were young. Really? I mean, and they are, yeah. Really Stevie. Mm-hmm. Kind of. I knew that they were college, I think they were. So it didn't like break me out, but it still felt really weird. Mm-hmm.'Cause I'm like, okay, I'm going to class. And then it's like, oh, whatever the sound effects were like they're going. And the teacher, yes. But how old was a teacher? Like, we could be like a, a 20, he 2-year-old, young, whatever, like book called Spoiler. I did read another one. Okay. Or two. But, but he is very, very young. He's a young teacher, but it's still ick. Yeah. For me. Okay. I, I can see that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I wasn't like bothered by it, but, you had it clearly in your mind. I think the ages. Mm-hmm. And I just kept getting lost with the I'm going to class or freshman. Yeah. I kept freshman. Yeah. Yeah. It just felt really weird. it there was some spice. Mm-hmm. the first book, I, I probably get steamier in the later book. Oh yeah. I would say the first book, maybe two chili peppers. Yeah. There was like a couple of scenes, but it wasn't overly in your face. Yeah. Not bad. The chili peppers definitely. Multiply as you go. I've read two additional books. I'm fascinated with this kind of a story. Mm-hmm. Like it's the, they're at the school with the different house. It's a Harry Potter dont list. Did you read Dont List. No, but I said it was Harry Potter Cross with Vampire Diary. Yeah. And a Splash of Gossip Girl. Yeah. Is how I described it. Very much so. Very much so. But the young adult stuff. Mm-hmm. I'm all about that. And the school stuff, like I was really, I'm really fascinated with it. So I was really interested in the story itself and mm-hmm figuring out where they were gonna be in which house and what's gonna happen with the whole kingdom, you know, all those things. Yeah. Well, apparently there is another book mm-hmm. In this series called The Awakening as Told by the Boys. So it's from the Boys' perspective. I've seen that. I'm out of borrows this month. Yeah. So that's book 11 in the series, but I think I would wanna read it now so everything's kind of fresh in my head and see how different perspectives were. Yeah. Well how did you feel about, I, I felt like every time I felt like there was somebody that these girls could trust the rug got pulled out from underneath them, and I know that's what they want you, the, that the author wanted you to take away, but I got tired of feeling that way. Yeah. I got tired of feeling like, and that continues mm-hmm. Boiler, sorry. Yeah. But I mean, I just felt like every time, uh, you know, they, the bullying where they saddle up to'em and say, you know, we're friends or whatever. Mm-hmm. And then just rip that all away. was devastating. Mm-hmm. You gotta have somebody Yeah. And have each other. I didn't like that. Right. I did not like that. Yeah. No. And, I think it's the, us against the world type of vibe Yeah. Is what, what it needs to be. Yeah. I swear to God, like I've read these books before mm-hmm. But I can't remember when I would have. Mm-hmm. It's really weird. I know this is gonna happen, but I don't remember reading these books. It's the freaking weirdest things. I have predictions, on how some of these relationships are gonna move forward. Mm-hmm. This if we record again and talk about it. Definitely gonna be an after dark Yeah. Episode because, did you get the feeling that everybody at this school was like, just insanely attractive? Yes. Like, it's just beautiful people. Yes. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere you look. Yeah. Even like the nerdy kids are like, right. Still like hot, nerdy. The only one that I was like, okay, she's got to be like, yes, with that name. I was like, she's got to be chunky and frumpy. But no, she talked, they talked later about how pretty she is. Yeah. I'm like, yeah. I mean everybody at this school is just you and I would fit in just fine. Totally. But yes, just so attractive. All of the dudes are like chiseled and all of the girls have the curves. Okay. So which bad guy would you go for? I don't know. They're all kind of mixed up in my head. I think Damien Me too. Yeah, the dragon. The dragon king. Yeah. Motorcycle riding. Uhhuh bad guy. Yeah. Ugh. Caleb's voice. He was the vampire, right? Mm-hmm. Like his, Hey sweetheart. He pissed me off. Like, yeah. And his voice was just, Ugh. At least demon. Like lets you know he's a jerk. Like 100%, right? He's a jerk. And then Caleb like the same thing with playing eth. Yeah. Seth was like the wolfie guy. Mm-hmm. And he would just come up and nuzzle everybody, which was weird. And then the whole vibe when he needed to re-energize and he would nuzzle up to the dudes, what is going on there? Well, and that continues okay with, especially with the Wolf Pack. Like, if you're interested in this, keep reading it because it's. Oh yeah. Okay. I hadn't gotten any to any specifics about any of that. Mm-hmm. But it's laying there. Everything's very open with whatever. Yeah. Well and that's, I mean, everybody just strips down naked. Yes. All book the whole and, and that continues to like all the time. And they all have nice underwear and that cur, but you know what I do? I do picture the creepy mermaid man guy. The siren? Yeah. The teacher Max? No, the teacher. O'Neil Orion. That guy. No, he's not a mermaid though. He is? Oh. Like when they go into like the little, oh, I picture him old. I do too. Like, like old, like creepy. Yeah. Gray hair baggy. Just like Uhhuh. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. Uh, I don't picture him attractive. It starts with a W. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, he was creepy. Oh my gosh. Nevermind what? They have like a sex ed scene in one of the books. It is just in college. Well, you know, they're learning how to, because birth control is different. Oh, they have to do what? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But, oh my gosh. I have to tell you, I was so into, the different names like Facebook. Mm-hmm. Instead of Facebook and the STD names were like, um, I don't remember, but they had to do with like fairies or, you know, stuff like that. I was just like, oh, that's, that's pretty witty there. I want this made into a movie or like a TV show. A TV show, a series. It would have to be a TV show on stars after 10 o'clock at night with all of the warnings. Well, apparently there's like a raci, TV streaming app that the other book is on. Oh, really? Yeah, they made it into a TV show. Oh, really? Yeah, it was, but it's on like a raci, like it's like a racy name for the app, and I was like, oh, that sounds like it's mm-hmm. X-rated. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of naked lots. Again, lots of nice underwear. Mm-hmm. Everywhere. So when Tori, was drowning in the pool, I thought of you, I was like holding my breath. I'm like, this is, you were like, this is how Meredith always feels when there's gonna be kind of pool scene. Yep. I thought the character development was really good. Mm-hmm., Other than I think the voices threw me off. Mm-hmm. Um, to differentiate between the twins, but I think the length of the book, you really got to know, and there's so many characters, but you kept them straight. The boys I was fine with. Yeah. I just got their names mixed up. Like I, I associated them more with their house or whatever, whatever it's called. But yeah, I agree. And the way that they, they shift and they start to recognize. The power that they have and all the things. Yeah. Definitely a lot of growth there and a lot of, development and you get to know'em all really well. The world building was really good in this. That was the main point of, I think Book one Uhhuh is developing this, this world for you to mm-hmm. Kind of enter. Mm-hmm. And, um, existing with them. Yeah. Uh, and it was very descriptive. It was, but it wasn't like too wordy. It wasn't overly agreed. I think it was chef's kiss Yeah. Really the right amount of detail without being too much. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize there was two authors in this book. Oh, didn't neither. Yeah. So one wrote for Darcy's part and one wrote for Tori's part. So crazy that they are still so similar. Mm-hmm. Huh. Okay. So with two separate authors. Okay. Um, did you realize that in this Zodiac universe there is 25 books so far? No. So that, like their spinoff series? Well, yeah. I saw like novellas or whatever they're called mm-hmm. That are like the 2.5 or whatever. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I found, a blog called Bookish Goblin, and so she researched all the books and then put them in order how you should, like timeline. Oh, that's, see, yeah. That's, um, and so it mixes up all of the, uh, different mm-hmm. Syn offs into the Zodiac Academy. Nice. So I'll send that to you if you want it. Okay. So it's 25 bucks, so That's crazy. You're for a series to get into and be for a while. And I, I do love that about a series, like, I love finding a series with a, a lot of, now this is a lot. I have a feeling by the end of this series, these characters aren't even gonna be in there anymore. Yeah. Well, I think with the, the spinoffs, I think it, it, you know, we could probably get into the parents and like Yeah. Like the, all the other. Probably governmental, whatever stuff. That's when I get lost. Yeah. Um, what'd you think about it? I liked it. Again, I think it, it's got all of the things like all like the supernaturally stuff. Mm-hmm. Which is cool. Um, it's got some spice. Mm-hmm. had the drama. Yeah. Again, I felt like it was a, a adult Harry Potter. Yeah. Meets Vampire Diaries. Yes. Meets Gossip Girl. That's really a perfect description of what it is too. Mm-hmm. And also a little bit, you said you didn't do, don't list, but, but those kind of books, same thing where you pick your house and pick your whatever. Same with the relationship. Drama, same. They're just naked. Um, not in adult list, but in this one's naked. Any KKID naked. I liked it too. And like I said, I've already read a few ahead. Mm-hmm. Just because, um. Invested in the story and not what they all say. Mm-hmm. I just read it for the, for the purpose. No, but like, I really do wanna know like how things turn out Yeah. And some other things. So, well, this book, they just like stopped. Like, it just, it did stopped. Like there was so like even it was relatively short time period too. Just stopped. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, well, what, I mean there wasn't even like an inclination that the book was ending. It just was like done, done, done. And I will say that the more I've listened to'em, I'm able to tune out, the play. Yeah. But with some of those scenes being spicier mm-hmm. The noises are very distract. You can imagine. Like, it's like, I mean, I don't want Jackson to walk in and hear me listening to this because he is gonna. Whatever. Um, whatcha are you watching, mama? Right? I'm not watching anything. I'm listening to it. It's like, that's just as bad. No. I liked it too though. Yeah. I, funny thing I saw on Facebook in one of like, the book groups that I'm in, for book recs mm-hmm. A girl was like, I need a recommendation for a book that is super spicy, like all the things, but has a very basic cover so I don't get caught right in public. That is funny. That is funny. They should. That it should be the market for. That's why you get a Kindle though. But that should be, yeah. No, bare chested men holding a woman with like her top falling off on the cover on a motorcycle. Oh, right, right. It should be, it should be just like a cover of like an old summer house or something. Like fao. Yes, exactly. Exactly. I like the book though. Yeah, I did too. What would you give it? Um, eight-ish. Me too. Like eight, nine. Yeah. Yeah. More distracted by the audio part and that, that, yeah, that would be like the, the not so great part. Yeah. And then the, the Tory Darcy thing is just threw me off. Yeah. Um, yeah, I thought it was really good though. Same, same added. Did too. Whoopsie. Well, next week obviously we won't be here, but we were supposed to read. Mm-hmm. If you guys want to continue on, all this and more by paying Shepherd and I just finished this. Mm-hmm. Because we just decided today we're taking a break. You know how we are. But it was actually kind of like different, like you picked your, your, your way. Your path. Yeah. Didn't I just talk about this? Yeah. We wanted that. No, I listened to it straight through.'cause I I wasn't stopping like the middle of what I was doing to like pick a path. Like, so if you listen to it straight through, it just gives you, you get everything. It's like 15 hours. Okay. But you can pick different paths of where this girl goes in her life. Oh, cool. For different outcomes. Okay. I'm looking it up now'cause I'm still gonna really read. funny that we just had discussed that. Yeah. And you're not already sucked into the 25. Uh oh. We'll be going back to that now. Yeah. Oh, well this has been fun. Fun. It has. But we love you guys. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us this whole time. We enjoyed it. We had so much fun. We love you. We love you. And we may be back. We might be back. If you see us in public, say hey to me, don't talk to Steph. If you see us that together, you can be like, oh, you're those girls. That's right. And please, please do. We love you. We love you. Thank you. Bye Bye. 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