This Is My Circus
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This Is My Circus
🎪 Episode 96: Possible Serial Killer, Florida Man, The Neighbor From Hell, Book Review: Its Your Turn Now
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Things get DARK this week… but don’t worry, Florida Man shows up to bring the chaos.
Stephanie and Meredith are catching up on life, dating updates, questionable shopping habits, and why taking a proctored exam from your bathroom might actually be a new form of psychological warfare.
Then we head into true crime with the absolutely WILD investigation unfolding in Philadelphia involving Eugene Horsch. Missing women, hundreds of thousands of disturbing images, unidentified cremated remains, fake federal credentials, a bizarre basement setup—and a father whose own history makes this story even stranger. There are a LOT of questions here, and this investigation is far from over.
We’re also talking about the Lindsay Clancy case, a Florida Man leading police on possibly the slowest getaway in history, and a Charlotte neighbor who apparently thinks living next door comes with complimentary printing, tool rental, and childcare services.
And for our bookies, we’re reviewing It’s Your Turn Now by Theo Baxter. Let’s just say… Daisy tested our patience, the plot felt VERY familiar, and our rating isn't exactly going on the back cover.
Plus: dating updates, college recruiting news, Family Feud dreams, Meredith's bathroom exam adventure, and the usual ADHD-fueled detours that somehow become half the episode.
🎧 Next week: We’re watching Netflix’s Conversations with a Killer: The Charles Manson Tapes.
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I'm Stephanie. I'm Meredith. And welcome to This Is My Circus. Hey, friend. Girlfriend. Hey, hey. Dating updates? Oh, we're going right- We're going right into it we're getting to the hard stuff. Right into it. Okay. Well, we hung out this weekend. Nice. Today we're recording Sunday. Yeah. So, yeah, we hung out this weekend, which was good. Good. It's all good. Yay. Yeah. I mean- Fun. Love it get a- get along great. And- Okay so far so good. We've, um, finished the first, I think the 18 whatever it was, like- 1883 or something like that 1883. Yeah, so now we're onto the 1920- 20- 30 or 20-something s- whatever. Did you like the 1883? Yes. I loved, I think that's my favorite. Yes. So we've moved onto the next one. Mm-hmm. You know, I don't do, killing animals and, like, the- Yeah bloody stuff. Yeah. And, and there's a lot of that. Yeah. So, like, there's a lot of me like, "Mm-mm." I know. Turning my face like, "Nope." I know. Yeah. Don't want that. Yeah. There, there is a lot. But yeah, so, we're, we're still binge-watching. And I love the plan. Things are going good. Good, good. Yeah, I jumped right into it. I was trying to catch you off guard to see, like, if I might be able to pry something out that you weren't expecting to say. I was, I was told... Did he sign the waiver? No. Oh my gosh. No. So he's still Lake Guy and- All right, John Doe, you need to sign the waiver. Lake Guy is still good. Good. I'm glad. Yes. Well, good. I'm... You- you're, you seem really happy. So far so good. Yeah. We're, we won't give him, like, too much 'cause he's probably gonna watch this. No, take that out then. Well, maybe you're happy because of your princess chair. I do love my chair. I think that is great. Yes. Um, for my ADHD- it's 100%... I can sit in it, like, a billion different ways and be so comfortable. I just love that foot part, like the bottom layer- Mm-hmm like, just swings around and you can do whatever with it. I can sit backwards. Mm-hmm. I can sit forward. I can sit with good- Sideways. Yes. What... Are you Dr. Seuss? Yes. I can sit on a chair. I can s- no, I'm just kidding. Um- I can sit here. I can sit there. I can sit everywhere. I have one in my office that's, triple wide- Mm-hmm and the arms fold down. Mm-hmm. And I can cross my legs, and I love that. But I do always put my feet up, got a thing under there. So that looks like the jam for that. I am obsessed. Mm-hmm. So I'm super happy that I got that one. Yeah. Yeah, Clifford definitely broke my last chair. Clifford. By jumping on me and- Yeah pushing me all the way back. Yeah, the only thing I don't like, like, like I said earlier, is it doesn't lean back\ at all. Mm-hmm. But that's okay 'cause- Yeah I mean, I- I start goofing off when I lean back. So it's probably a good thing- Yeah for me, personally. I get that. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. All right. Well- So you just had some, some good stuff happening. And I put it together all by myself. And again, proud of you for that. Yes. You're doing all the things, so now you're a plumber. Uh. Never wanna do that again. Done with that. Don't hold me responsible for flooding the home. Check that one o- yeah. Was that a downstairs thing or an upstairs? Upstairs. Yeah, that's terrifying. But it worked, so. Yay. Cool. ChatGPT for the win. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. What else you got going on? Doing some hypnosis stuff? Well, just training- Yeah stuff, right now. And then, yeah, there's not, um- I don't think there's, like, much more Try not to, try not to fry outside or just melt. I guess it's not even fry, it's just- I haven't even gone outside really, like- Don't do it. Yeah, if you h- if you- I'm just- Other than let the, the dog- Yeah let them out, don't- Mm-hmm don't even take them on a walk. But, like, I'm using a tan, so myself. I know, same. I looked at a picture of me from when Jackson and I had done something in the summer to now, and I was like, "Oh, that's depressing." I think I'm just gonna have to go by self-tanner again. Mm-hmm. And just maintain this like- I still would use that stuff that we had, gosh, I forgot the name of it. Remember that foam stuff? The B something. It started with a B. Yeah, yeah. And it was, like, funny names. Mm-hmm. But, um, yeah, still use that- Yeah when I, when I wanna tan. Mm-hmm. They sell it at Walmart. I'm just gonna run down there and get it. Oh, do they really? Yeah I literally buy everything online. Yeah. If I, except, I mean, in groceries I do, like, the order, shipment. I hate to go in a store. If you see me in a store, just know I don't wanna be there Yeah. Well, I mean, you're the one that's more social than me. I'm like, I have my headphones in, my, like, I, my eyes are down and I don't wanna make eye contact with anybody. It, it's not even, like, that part, it's just the inconvenience of everything about it, it's going, and it's getting out of the car, and going in, and doing, and checking out, when I can just add to cart and it'll be here in two days. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah, so it's more the inconvenience of it. If I seen you in there, I'd, I'll wave. I'll wave to you. I know you... Yeah. But it's just the whole... Uh, some people that love to shop, and that's your thing, and that's fine, but I just can't stand it. Mm-mm. I can't stand it. No. No. I mean, like, if I'm going, to a store for a s- not even, like, food shopping, but, like, even regular shopping- Mm-hmm I'd rather order online if I don't like it, return it. Uh-huh. Yep, yep. But, um, if I have to go to a, a store, like, I want to be in and out. Like, I want- Mm-hmm I don't wanna go with, like, somebody that's gonna be, like, looking at every little thing, you know? Right. Right. 100%. And I wanna look at what I wanna look at. Mm-hmm. And it's okay to, separate- 100, yep, yep but, don't force me, don't hold me hostage there for, like, four hours. This is not a hostage situation. Yeah. I am free to roam. Yes. And we'll meet back up. Mm-hmm. If we want to. Um, I have your location. Yeah. And we'll call it a day. Just the thought, though, of, like, going to, like, a shopping cen- not a shopping center. What's it called? Like, the outlets- Mm-hmm and stuff is just... Well, we were on the highway- Mm this weekend, and the exit to go to, The one in Charlotte? Uh-huh. What's it called? Premier? No, no, no, like, the indoor one. Concord Mills? Yes. Was, I mean,, just the- Oh, yeah exit was insane. I'm sure, 'cause back to school stuff. No. No? No. Oh. You would not catch me there- Oh, no. Uh-uh on a weekend. No. Let alone during back to school, but, like, on a weekend, period- Yeah I would never go there. Like, I like nice things, I just don't wanna go shopping. We have some friends that, they'll go shopping multiple times over, a vacation to different outlets and different things, and I'm like, "I don't really- Want to do that Again, I don't mind going if I'm not in a rush, one. Mm-hmm. Like, if there's not like a time crunch, like you have- Mm-hmm an hour to find this one thing, like I would- Yeah do horrible at those game shows. Yeah. I was getting ready to ask about the game shows. I would be so bad. I would be awful at Jeopardy. I'd be aw- there's like, I don't even know what game show. Price is Right, 'cause like- Yeah there's like a, the deity, like. Not a lot of skill required for that one. I would not do good at games. Did you ever see Vegas Vacation? Mm-mm. Okay. So, Chevy Chase and all the movies that he made, like Vegas Vacation, uh, forgot what other vacation one, but there was a, a one where they went to Vegas. Well, his cousin Eddie is like this redneck, very simplistic, annoying, just like dude. So he wants, he goes to Vegas, but he doesn't go to like the Vegas. He goes to like these, casinos where they have, like, random games. I can't even explain it. It's just, like, homemade games. Like, I don't know, pick a goldfish up with your hands and don't drop it, or something- Yeah stupid like that. I think I would do good at that- Like, beer pong and- 'cause there's no skills. Yeah with, like, if it's not, like... I mean, beer pong. Really? You're good at that? I used to be really good. I haven't played in a long, like, I don't know, in several years. Yeah. But I used to, I used to crush beer pong. Yeah? I'm not good at that. I'm not- Not good at that one that was, that was a good one. Although, my eyesight's, now as I'm getting- Yeah older not as great. It's probably muscle memory. Yeah. Girl. Well, we played water pong because the kids would always wanna play. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They used to play water pong. Yeah, yeah. Um, and the kids would freaking kill it. Yeah. Like- Well, you know, we gotta give them life skills. I love music bingo. I'm really good at music bingo. Really? We should go. That would be a lot of fun. It would be fun. I love music bingo. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's do it, homie. Um, yeah. Well, did you see that, the bingo that's in, gonna be in Charlotte? Which one? And it's- I've been getting a lot of things. I've got, like, Harry Potter bingo coming. Oh, no, this is like- What is this one? It's like a, it's like a club bingo. Oh, yeah, with the lights- Yeah and all the... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that looked fun, too. Somebody that I know up north went, and, they were giving away vacations. Shut up. And, like, all these, really cool stuff. Okay, so we go. Yeah. We win a vacation. Yes. Me and you go. And I'm like, "Sorry, Brian, I gotta go with who I went to the, to the bingo with." It's a podcast thing. Yeah. Oh, and then it's a write-off. Yeah. That'd be great. That'd be a lot of fun. That'd be so much fun, yeah. So I think we should for sure. 100%. I need something like that in my life right now. Okay. Well, I got you, girl. Okay, good. But yeah. Um, other than that, like, I would not... I, I, I'm not, Jeopardy! would not be for me. Like, none of those shows would be. But you know what I think I would be really good at? What? Family Feud. Oh, yeah, I think I would be, too. I think I would kill Family Feud. Uh-huh. I think I would be. I think I'd be really... you would be good at that. I think so. Some of those answers. Have we ever talked about Steve Harvey? I think we did when, like, the whole Pete Doherty thing came out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But- And you were talking about not being a fan. Yeah. Just- But I, I- But- would totally kill that show. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. If you had to pick a family. Ooh. But it could be friends. Okay. But- Like, just like a squad pick your squad. Okay. Um, you, obvi. Jasmine. Yes. Yeah. Um, Dylan. Uh-huh. Um. How many are there? Five? Or six. I think six. The captain and then, like, five more? Mm-hmm. Okay. Maybe. Okay, so you get four. You got two more. Why did I count that way? Anyway Jonas Oh 'cause he would come up with like the last good answer He can. And he w- even if it wasn't right, he would be the one like- Yeah. Oh, yeah he was confident he's gonna sell it. Listen, he would take over the host job. He would, absolutely. Mm-hmm. Okay, you get one more. Okay. Oh, this is hard. I'm trying to think who would come up with, like, the off-the-wall answers like that- Mm-hmm when you're- Mm-hmm in that crunch time. That's a good group though That's a good group, yeah That's a really good group We can kill it. We can kill it. Let's- Let's miss Jackson just so we have our boys, all, all three boys Okay. Okay, that's fair Jackson, you're in. Jackson, let's go Congrats, Jackson Those boys would be hilarious in something like that. Oh, my God. That's a good squad. Yeah, That really is. It'd kill it. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. I'm down. Yeah. I'll play with you. Yay. So far we're on vacation. Uh-huh. We're going to bingo, and we're gonna be on Family Feud. What else can we do today? This is where I live my alternate life- Yeah through these moments. Yeah. Same. Uh-huh. 'Cause, you know- No we are, no, we're go- we're gonna go into that bingo and we're gonna be like, "Uh, we won this. We already won this." We're gonna manifest it. We won it, yeah. Yeah. We go in there and it- It- it's already happened. Let's go in with our wheelie suitcases. Okay. Oh, could we... 'Cause we're on our way- Sunglasses and lays on, like we just, we're leaving here and going straight to the airport- Yeah to go to, uh, Jamaica. Yeah, wherever. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We'd win something to, like- Antarctica no, or like Wisconsin, like the cheese festival. Canada. Yeah. Nothing either one of us would be, like, really interested in. We want a warm place. 100%. I want a beach. Yeah. It, yeah, so. Yeah. Wait. Okay. We want warm places, but not here. I wanna go to a warm place in the fall or the winter. Uh-huh. So it's a reprieve. Yeah. So. Yeah. Universe, you heard our request. Yeah. Do with it what you will. No, you're going to. Let's do this. That's great. That's great. Yeah. So what's going on with you? Yeah, rough week last week. Yeah. Lot going on. Um, Jackson's team had a scrimmage on Monday night. He did not play, he did not dress out. So little down. We lost one of our doggos last week. Sweet girl, Emmy girl, so, and that was out of the blue. She wasn't feeling well, and it escalated then, like, hours. Quickly. Yeah. Yeah. So thankfully she didn't suffer, but still, oh, my God. Hard. Had to take a, certification test for work last week for, my position, so I've been stressed out about that. Passed it. I love it though, 'cause they don't give you, like, a grade. It's just, like, pass or fail. Yeah. And I'm like, "I, I really don't care." Yeah. Like, as long as it turns green, I'm fine. Well, I had to do my, testing for State Farm- Mm-hmm to be licensed, um, not that I sold insurance, but everybody had to be licensed in the office. Mm-hmm. It was a pass or fail, and I was like- when I, when I hit, like, the submit button, I was like, "Please, please, please, please." Yeah. I did the whole click and, closed my eyes, and then I prayed, like, "Are you loaded yet?" But let me tell you this. Okay, so this test was online proctored. Mm-hmm. And they took it next level. You had to submit a picture of your ID, and you had to have your camera on, which I get, 100% fine. You have to be in a closed room, and you had no pets or anything in the room. Rex is right here. That's how my dogs are. Yeah. And my house is really open. Mm-hmm. I don't have closed rooms. Brian was on third shift again last week, so even if I would've taken it in my bedroom, I couldn't. Homie's over there snoring- hooked up to his CPAP machine. I'm like, "Oh, my God, Jackson..." And you can't have, like, bookcases or posters or anything. Well, football posters is all over Jackson's room, and I was like, I've gotta take this infer in the bathroom." Did you? Yes. I did. I did. I took one of our, uh, like kitchen chairs, 'cause my chair is wide and it wouldn't have fit in there. I took one of my kitchen chairs and carried it in the bathroom, and I took like a TV tray I had gotten for when Jack's and I had gotten hurt and I was trying to put trays everywhere and tables. So I put one of those in there and my laptop. And then I had to pick up my laptop and show them the whole room. And I know they were like- What the heck? "This girl." Seriously. So I'm sitting there doing the test and I show them everything, and they're like, "Show us the wall behind you." And I'm like, "Here's my shower. Don't judge me that it's not been scrubbed today." And then they're like, "Okay, show us your phone." And I'm like, "Okay, I'd already put it up, but whatever." So I hold up my phone and I show them my phone. And, they're like, "Put it up." So, the vanity's on my right-hand side, I like open the drawer and throw it in there. And they're like, "Show us where you put it." And I showed. They're like, "It can't be in a drawer." And I was like, "Ugh, I have to get up and throw it in the hallway." My God. It was crazy. They wanted to see the bottom of my keyboard, if I had like an external keyboard. They wanted to see the bottom of my mouse pad, all these things. And I'm sitting there taking this test, and it's a timed test. Mm-hmm. And the questions are these questions It's nothing like the practice exam, and it's nothing like what I felt like I've studied. And I'm doing the things and I'm locked in and I'm like, "Okay, watching my timer and I'm like, "I'm doing good." And I do the things, and all of a sudden I hear my dog's at the door trying to get in. And it's Louie, and you know, he's a boxer and they're flat face and they like puff air all the time. I'm like, "Oh, God, please don't start barking or anything like that." So he's fine. He goes away. I don't know what he does. And I'm in there and I'm locked in again. And the time's countdown, It was 50 questions in 75 minutes. I was like, "I've got this." Mm-hmm. I start hearing puffing again, and I'm like, "Oh," and then I heard like the scratch on the door. And I was like, "Uh." I made it through. Yeah. Made it through. Didn't recheck all the ones I that I had flagged to go back but I was like, I mean, I'm probably not gonna know them anymore in five minutes than I'm gonna knew 'em- so yep, I took my ACBA pr- exam in the, um the bathroom. Whatever works, whatever works It was so funny. I was like, "Okay, shower curtain open or closed? If I close it, they're going to see behind it. They might think somebody's back there." It w- uh, like, the things that I was thinking. Yeah. That's intense. If it is- It was- a real person so tense. 'Cause when Dylan did his college courses- Yeah they had the proctored exams. Mm-hmm. Um, but it was just through a webcam, and you had to, show your license, make sure it was you- Yeah, yeah and whatever, and then show the room. And, if you didn't move within however many- Yeah seconds, It would flag red flagged you, and, like, all these things. Yeah. Well, they also had, like, you couldn't scratch your face. You couldn't touch your face, and of course my face itched the entire time, 'cause that's all I could think about. And, um, like, you couldn't fidget. I guess they were thinking if somebody else was in there, where they were hiding, in the shower behind the curtain, I don't know. If somebody else was in there and you were, like, trying to signal for an answer- Mm-hmm or something. Like, I don't know. I was like, my job is important, but I'm not carrying any diseases." Yeah. "I promise you." Mm-hmm. Like, this is overkill. But what a boring job. Yeah. Yeah. If they're really paying attention- Yeah what a boring job to watch somebody else freak out all day. Yeah. So yeah, past that, so that's done. I'm sure it's gonna be, three months and they're gonna be like, "Okay, we want everybody to take, the next level," which is great. They pay for it. It's fine. It's just a layer of stress I don't need right- Mm-hmm now in my life. Yeah. But yeah, so that was last week. Oh, Jackson would kill me for telling you this, but you know, he's got a couple of football offers. He got an offer to play college rugby. Oh my gosh. At University of South Carolina. Shut up. And I don't know, like, how rugby works. I think it's club, it's not school. You still get, like, merit stuff through the school, but rugby's, like, a club. Kinda like lacrosse is a club, I guess. But I was like, this kid played, eight games and he was broken. And here we go. But- Hey. I know, it's pretty cool. Yeah. That's awesome. But now I'm freaking out again. Yeah. Because the dude was like, "You know, if you wanna apply for academic aid, you need to fill out all this stuff by this certain date and do early admission." And I'm like Mm-hmm It's actually small Was USC even, like, on his, like- No list? I mean, dream school- Yeah for football eventually, but, um, but no, not ever one that, like, we really... Football is so different, like the way that they recruit and stuff now. The kids that are being recruited for, like, these smaller schools like he is now, 20 years ago would've been going to the South Carolinas and the Clemsons and the, um, whatever the other schools are. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But the way that the recruiting process has changed and the transfer portal and, they've just changed it now, but it used to be they could play till they were like 27 in college. All of that has just really put the high school kids at a disadvantage. Mm-hmm. So no. Long answer, but no, wasn't really on his radar- Yeah because of the way that things are right now. But you know, it could be eventually, so. I look good in that color, dark red. I was like, "Jackson, you should post, you know, they're supposed to post all that on the X so it, like, keeps them active and stuff," and he was like, "I, I don't know." And I was like, "Whatever, I'm gonna post it for him." Well- "Give me your phone." Like I said that like I don't have access to his Twitter. Yeah. What am I? Y'all know better. Y'all know I do it. So anyway, that's been, yeah, it's been a, a up and down week. Well- Up and down week. So- Hopefully- Yeah we're on the up. Well, I have to hope we're on the up. Wanna, wanna high five? Where we high fiving? Okay. We're gonna be on the up. Okay, good. Was it last week I tried to high five you and you just, like, ghosted me? I put my hand out like I would do it, and then you, So awkward. So awkward. So awkward. It's okay. You know what else makes me really awkward? I'm sorry. My ADD is now kicking in. It's what we're here for. Do you know when you go on these websites, and you have to do, like, the human validation thing? Yes. Do those stress you out? Yes. Like they- Like the stupid letters? Or, yes, the letters are terrible, 'cause, um- 'Cause you can't see- Right what they really are. And when it's like, "Pick the bicycle," and then I start freaking out, like, "Well, does a motorcycle count as a bicycle? But what if that's a trike? Is that one? I can't see." Or click the stoplights, and I'm like- Yeah which ones are we considering stoplights? And like- There are- and stoplights, like, are you talking, like, the pole that goes with the stoplight? Right, or just- Or is this the- a physical light? They stress me out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I don't like having to pick my age, my year- Oh, no 'cause it's like- It's like spinning the wheel the wheel of fortune. Exactly. I'm 77. How do you think that makes me feel? Oh, speaking of age, here's another one. When they email you, your pharmacy, your doctor, you emailed me- Yeah to click on my portal. But you wanna verify who I am before I get in there. You, you called me. Yeah. You should know who I am. You called me. You emailed me. You called me. Yes. I agree. I'm not answering that question. Yeah, un- but then you don't get the information. Yes. Okay, I think I'm done. Yeah. We'll see. Probably not. Yeah. So have you seen that there's a potential serial killer in Philadelphia? No. Well, they caught, but they are now, going through all this stuff. Mm-mm. It is so crazy. What's the deal, man? So they've not caught him. They call him, her? Him. Okay. Eugene Albert Forche. Oh, he's probably upset 'cause of his name. Agreed. And he's 44. He's not even, like, 72. No, 44. So it's like- Did you go to school with a Eugene? No, I didn't- Same go to school in Philadelphia. Well, no, same, but, like- Oh, another Eugene nobody was named anything like that. No. No. And, like, even to, like, short it down to Gene, and he can't even use Albert. Like, Albert is his middle name. That's bad too. I know. Well, I mean, in my, in my point of view- Okay. Call him EA. Yeah. EA Sports. EA Horsch, you're in the game. Okay. Okay. A lot. So he lived with his father,- Raymond RC Horsch, in a house on West Chew Avenue in Philadelphia's Olney neighborhood. Mm-hmm. I have no clue what that is- Mm-hmm or where it is. Raymond was an erotic photographer filmmaker whose work included sexualized violence and staged death scenes, and he wrote novels involving serial killers. Raymond died May of 2025. That's an important part of this. Okay. So fast-forward to June 19th, 2026, Eugene, had a completely random encounter with a US park ranger near Independence Mall. I do know where that is. Oh, do you? Yeah. That one encounter basically kicked over a rock and exposed an entire nightmare. Police now say photos and videos recovered in the house appear to show two women who have been missing for years alive inside the house, and later apparently dead. Their bodies have never been found, and those aren't even the two missing, women investigators originally started looking for. Oh. So they have found all these pictures and stuff that they are trying to now connect to missing women. Uh-huh. There are, urns full of ashes- Oh that they don't know who they belong to. Mm-hmm. And there was also, in all of this footage, and like there was video and, um, photos, also children involved as well. Oh. Some of them. So dude's gonna go away for a long time. Yeah. But the extent of how many people are dead- Yeah and how involved, all the things. Oh my gosh. Mm-hmm. Well, I'm glad they caught him. I wonder what happened with the park guy. Thank you for asking. Yeah. A US park ranger noticed Eugene and a woman inside Eugene's BMW near Independence Mall. The ranger reportedly heard the woman say something along the lines of, "You're going to hurt me." Authorities searched Eugene and the vehicle. According to investigators, they found two loaded guns, including guns with obliterated serial numbers, drugs, a switchblade, fake DEA credentials featuring Eugene's photo. Mm. I hope he gave himself a fake name. For real. Pick something else, Eugene Albert. Joe. Thousands of dollars worth of illegal drugs. Ooh. But then they checked the woman, and this is where the story goes from weird to crazy. Mm-hmm. The woman had identified, uh, identification in the name of Blair Toncelli, except she wasn't Blair Toncelli. Blair Toncelli is a missing woman. She had been reported missing in 2023. Investigators had information indicating Toncelli had previously been at the horse house and had worked at, as a home healthcare aid for his father. Oh, okay. So she had the lady's identification. Mm-hmm. Hmm. The woman with Eugene reportedly told police she didn't even know Blair. Mm-hmm. So naturally, police wanted to know how do you- Mm-hmm, what's up? Yeah and then down the rabbit hole they went. Mm. And they just kept finding more and more and more. Wow. So this isn't, like, quite done yet- Mm-hmm obviously, but- Mm-hmm the investigators descended on the house. This is what the, what ChatGPT gave me this earlier. Mm-hmm. Um, what they allegedly found reads like somebody dumped the contents of six true crime documentaries into one house. Authorities have reported finding guns and ammunition, fake federal credentials, including fake FBI and DEA identification, drugs, and evidence of substantial marijuana growing operation, five urns believed to contain, cremated remains, more than 20 containers of unidentified chemicals and oily substances, a bizarre amount, a bizarre basement set-up involving 55 gallon drum connected to water lines, computers, hard drives, and an enormous quantity of digital material. And eventually, police literally started digging up the property, removing underground pipes so forensics could examine them. Hmm. Yeah. Wow. Mm-hmm. That is crazy. Investigators also recovered writings from the house that referenced Ted Bundy, violence, zip ties, and a drum, which obviously looks absolutely horrific in context. Mm-hmm. But there is a giant complication that runs through virtually the entire investigation. Eugene's father was a horror erotic writer and filmmaker. Mm-hmm. So he's gonna, I'm sure use the defense of, "This was my dad's house." Mm-hmm. "His set up for his movies." Mm-hmm. But they still have the missing women that were in the photos- Right that are- That have not been found. Yeah. And can you get DNA from ashes? I asked you that like you knew the answer. I don't think you can. I wouldn't think so. Unless there's like bones or teeth or something that would be left or- I don't think so. I don't think so either. But yeah, I still think there's plenty- Mm-hmm To point to this dude. Yeah. So, Dad's a weirdo. Like, I shouldn't say weirdo, but it is what it is. Mm-hmm. Um. Mm-hmm. Well, what, tell us about Mom, you know? Yeah, Mom's not, Mom's not listed. Oh, Raymond had his own criminal history. Dad had a criminal history too. Okay. Raymond was not simply an eccentric photographer. In 2009, police responded to his residence, ultimately discovered 455 marijuana plants and two shotguns. He later pleaded guilty to three felonies and received 54 months in prison. When he got out of prison in 2013, Robert and Eugene were living together at the house that they just- Raymond. Yeah. Oh, Raymond and Eugene. Yeah. What did I say? Robert. Oh. I was trying to give him- a better name. You're trying to help him out. And then Raymond died in 2025. So they can't, sit him down. They can't ask him questions. They can't go over anything. That's a freaking Criminal Minds episode. Yeah. Yeah. That is cuckoo cachoo, for real. Wow. Yeah. they found 600,000 images so far. Okay. 70,000 videos. Mm. And 10,000 pages of writings and drawings. That's a ton of stuff. Which do you think is worse? Like this one or P. Diddy's? Do I have to answer that? No. They're both evil. They're both... Yeah, that's both- Yeah they're both really bad. So- Really, really bad yeah, I mean, this is just going into, like, the chemicals and whatever. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of stuff. Yeah. So this is not over, and I'm sure we're gonna continue getting- His dad died fairly young, though. So he died last year. Eugene is 44. His dad's probably, like, mid-60s. I wonder if he killed his dad. I wonder, have you watched the new Criminal Minds? Some. You know how the, the main dude- Mm-hmm um, who's, like, in jail now but helping the- Mm-hmm FBI, his uncle, taught him. Oh, yeah I wonder if this is, like, that situation. Very possible Very possible. Gross. Yeah, very gross. Another situation, have you been following the Lindsey Clancy stuff? Yes, here and there. Okay. So I just found out about this, 'cause apparently I live under a rock- Mm within about the past week, and I've been doing some, you know, TikTok research because that's where the, the Lord does his work. Yeah. And, I have so many mixed emotions. So if you don't know what we're talking about, she's a lady who unalived her three children and tried to do that to herself, and she is currently on trial. And she's not on trial for the act, she's on trial to see if she's competent- To stand to stand trial, pretty much. Yeah. Um, for, well, I don't even know if it's competent to stand trial or just to figure out what kind of punishment they would give her or where they would put her or whatever. Mm-hmm. But basically she was battling, like, postpartum stuff. And what's so crazy to me She did all the things. Mm-hmm. Which is what they're arguing, is that she, reached out so many times saying, "I need help. I need help. I need help," and they'd help her for, like, a day and then- But her husband, there are so many things that's- Uh-huh wrong with this situation. Uh-huh. And I honestly, like, question everything. Uh-huh. Including the deaths. Yeah. I really do. Well, we know a lot about murder. Yeah. You know, we both read a lot and we do. Yeah. Women typically aren't, like, stranglers. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that caught my attention too, that that's how that happened. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of red flags, everywhere. The husband is sus to me. Mm-hmm. There's something off with that. Yeah. So. Yeah, I agree. I'm not saying that it's not possible that she did it, but I just, I- Well- I feel like there's, there's a lot of layers to that- Yeah that has not been uncovered. And then the district attorney telling, saying for her to shut up when they were reading the autopsy, under his breath- Mm-hmm it was like a hot mic moment. Mm-hmm. Um, just like, "Shut her up," or something to that effect. Yeah. Like- Yeah how unprofessional. I know. I know. It's crazy. There's so much. And so, well, she, she was struggling with her mental health. I mean, it's documented, all the- Yeah all the visits and the medication she tried. Like, there's evidence she was struggling with that. But was she struggling with that because of something else that he was doing? Mm-hmm. Or was it truly postpartum? Or, I mean, I don't know, there's a thousand different things that, could've led to that. Or was it just he was putting her in that situation to... Anyway, it's, there's a lot to unpack with that. Yeah. So I'm kinda invested in that. Yeah. Just as I'm scrolling, seeing the stuff- Mm-hmm and people's commentary and, I mean, everybody has an opinion, and that's okay. Right. Like, everybody can have their opinion, but I also think that, some people, kind of run their mouths too quickly Yeah before, everything is revealed- Yeah, yeah and which is not okay to. Right. Well, it's very easy to be reactive. You see something and hear something and you're like, "Oh my God," like, "That's crazy," and then not to think about all the different points of view- Mm-hmm that could be, contributing factors to this stuff. Yeah. But anyway, so that's still going on. We'll see what happens with that. Mm-hmm. Okay, on Instagram I saw 'Cause we know we love our Florida man stories. We do. Florida man arrested after leading police on a three mile per hour chase down a highway on a motorized bar stool. While holding a lit sparkler. The visual, the visual of that. Yeah, and then there was another one not too long ago that I saw that was, like, a Florida man tried to go through a Wendy's drive-through, on an alligator, like, as his vehicle to go through the drive-through. So when I hear these stories, do you automatically picture somebody? Yes, my brother. For both of those? For everything. For everything? For every one of these stories. I tagged him in the, in the- Not Eugene, not Eugene. No. You don't picture your brother as being- No, no, no, like, these Florida man stories- I'm just kidding. Yeah 100%, I picture my brother doing some stupid stuff. So I immediately think, like, old man. Like, old man in jorts. No, I picture my brother. You picture your brother. Mm-hmm. Just waving the sparkler. Yeah. That's great. Mm-hmm. I tagged him in the clip- from last week, or two weeks ago. I'm like, "Kevin, was this you?" When the drunk guy that was looking for himself. That's hilarious. That's, that one was a great story. Yes, so. That was a great story. Sorry, Kevin, but 100%. So we had somebody that sent us a DM about our drunk person story. Oh. Not really, they texted me, but- I was like, "Eh" we'll try to keep it anonymous. It's like I didn't, I didn't see a DM come through. Who is it? So this lady knew somebody who knew somebody, was a relative of somebody. Mm-hmm. That this dude and this brother went out on jet skis, got drunk, and they got lost on the lake. And, the search party got called in to look for them, and he saw the search party, but he kept running and, he didn't wanna get in trouble because he didn't want his wife to know. The next night he was found. Oh. Mm-hmm. Oh. He didn't want his wife to know he'd been drinking, so that was his solution is just like- Start messing with another person What did he say? Where did he say he was? That was it. Oh. Could you imagine me in that wife? I'd be so fucking mad. That would be a lot, 'cause you're terrified- Yeah and you're downloading Tinder. I'm just I'm trying to figure out, do I swipe left or right? Like, which way do I go? And then I'm trying to call the life insurance company, and then all of a sudden they're like, "Oh, he- we found him," and I'm like- Dang it Mother trucker. Brian and I joke about that all the time. He had, appendicitis and had to have his... Just randomly, just boom, appendix, and, had to have his appendix out. And, I followed him from the,, urgent care. He had to go via ambulance to the hospital. Well, first of all, he jokes because between the two places, I pulled into Wendy's and got some lunch and met him there. He's like, "You came into the room smelling like a Wendy's hamburger." And I was like, "Also, I was downloading Tinder, so it took me quite a minute for..." Or Farmers Only or something stupid. Yeah. And he was like, "I'm sure you already matched with somebody by that time." Well, you know- Uh-huh I just gotta keep moving forward. That's what they say, you know? You can't look in the rear view mirror. You gotta press on. And I'm not one to... Ain't nobody gonna hold me down. Ain't nobody gonna there's our song for the day Move on. Okay. Okay. Do you want to do Am I That Mom? Yeah, so I found one- Okay, go for it on the socials. Mm-hmm. And, this was from somebody in Charlotte. Oh, I love local. I know. So it was, like, in a, a Charlotte moms group or something. Uh-huh. And I was like, "I'm gonna hang onto this one because this is gonna be fun." Did you see that they're giving, Facebook the owners of the group, the option to take away anonymous- Oh public means, and just go back to, having to, stand on it 10 toes down? I like that though. I think people should have to be, I think every group... That was the dumbest thing that they've ever done. I don't think I've- And I just thought- commented anonymous anywhere. No. I just don't comment. I don't post. I lurk. Yeah. It's cool. I think that's great. I do too. I hate anonymous posts. The only way that there's any good is if it's, like, an embarrassing, health thing or financial thing where people don't have anywhere to go and they need to ask- But- the Facebook world- But, uh- how do I fix this boil on my butt? Well, go to your doctor. Okay. That's the advice you're gonna get is, go to your doctor. Go to the doctor. But as far as the financial thing though, I think everybody that posts anonymously, I'm like, "That's a scam." You know? Yeah, that's true. I don't trust anybody. That's true. I don't tru- I have trust issues. Yeah. Uh, well, you know, I get that. I get that. Okay, so let's jump on in. Am I the a-hole for wanting to set some serious boundaries with my new neighbor after only two weeks? We have a new neighbor who moved in about two weeks ago, and ever since she moved in she's been asking me for favors constantly. In just two weeks she's asked to borrow a broom, a drill, screwdrivers, and other random things. She's also asked me multiple times to print documents for her. She actually owns a printer, she just hasn't bothered setting it up yet. And it's not just asking. If she sends me something to print and I don't respond within a few minutes, she will literally send follow-up messages asking me the status of her documents. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You want me to just... You wanna stop there? She texts me at least twice a day asking for something. She's also suggested that I watch her two-year-old for her. For context, I'm pregnant and I already have three small children of... Bless you. Wow. Okay, sorry. I already have three small children of my own at home. I have plenty on my plate without casually adding in someone else's toddler to the mix. But the situation that really bothered me happened the other day. So that's just the build-up. I'm already out. I'm already out. I'm already... My house is on the market. My number has changed. Or she has been blocked. Mm-hmm. Or whatever. All of the things. Yeah. She invited me to go to the neighborhood pool with her and our kids. At one point she started talking to some random person she'd literally just met and basically stopped paying attention to her two-year-old. Her daughter started running to the deep end of the pool and I had to leave what I was doing with my children to run after her because I was afraid she was gonna jump into the deep end. Meanwhile, mom was completely distracted chatting away with someone that she had just met. That really rubbed me the wrong way because I didn't agree to be responsible for her child. I was there supervising my own children and suddenly I was put in a position where I had to choose between watching mine and making sure her toddler didn't drown. The thing is, I genuinely don't mind helping people. If my neighbor needs to borrow something occasionally or needs a quick favor, sure, I'm happy to help. But I'm starting to feel like she's confusing my willingness to be nice with me being available to her whenever she needs something. We have known each other for two weeks. Yeah. I'm her neighbor, not her personal assistant, printing service, tool rental, or babysitter. I don't wanna create drama because we live right next to each other, that's the thing. Yeah. But I'm starting to feel like my goodwill's being taken advantage of and am I being the a-hole for being annoyed and wanting to start saying no to most of these requests? I don't think so at all. I think that she is, well within her rights to hit block and- Yeah. I do too, it's just direct neighbor. Yeah. That's- I still, I'd be okay with having a, some conflict with a neighbor if- You're pulling up, taking your earrings out, and putting your hair up in a bun like already ready to go. Girl. I know. I know. So the comments are, you know, I would turn off notifications and not respond to her, um, i- is a lot of things. Um- But still, like- She has, she has too much access. Mm-hmm. Like, she's way too comfortable with that. Mm-hmm. Two, you've known somebody two weeks? I, I, but, and then you're let- you're, like, you don't really know her, and you're saying, like, "Watch my kid," that's... Oh, I already talked about my neighbor in Nash- Mm-hmm or when we lived in Tennessee- Yeah, took advantage of you for that she was the next step. Yeah. And I just thought it was so strange. I would never leave Dylan with, like, when he was that little- Mm-hmm with somebody I didn't know. No, not at all. Not at all. This person said, "Only read half of this and I can tell you you're not the." Oh, leave now, run. And I get all of that, but it's the neighbor part that's just so- Maybe it's my, Northern in me that I'm like, I- don't give a flying flip. I know. I, I can easily just pretend you're not there. I love that, though. I'm not really like that. I'm not like that, and I wish I was. But everybody's pretty much like, no, you're not. But somebody's like, "Offer to set up her printer for her," and I'm like, "No, that's just opening the door to-" To do all the things. Right. No. No. I would just say, "You have a printer. Use it." My printer, my printer's out of ink, sorry. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, that's fine. I'm sending all of your other documents that ran my printer out of ink. Right. I'll send you an invoice for a new ink cartridge. Yeah, isn't that crazy, though? I couldn't imagine being that pushy. Mm-mm. all right. So, we are gonna do a doc next week, and it is Conversations With a Killer: The Charles Manson Tapes. It is three episodes long on Netflix. So if you are not a bookie, prepare for next week- and come to us. You're That's cute. That's cute. But- Mm we love you. Thank you for listening and come back next week. We do love you even though I make fun of you. Bye. Bye. All right, bookies. We are going to discuss our book. Yes, and it was called It's Your Turn Now by Theo Baxter. All right, so do you want to, do you want to start with the characters? Sure. All right, so our character, starts with Daisy. Yep. She's our main character. Daisy is trapped in a longterm abusive relationship- Mm-hmm with Bruce, who is her husband. Time out. These names drive me crazy. I know. Okay. Time in. So Bruce is- Mm-hmm a violent, controlling, psychologically abusive husband. Mm-hmm. Physically abusive too. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And he does all the things. Yep. He's just a piece of- Not good stuff. Marco, Marco, appears charming- Yeah and turns into- Uncharming. And we have Sarah. Sarah. Sarah is- Appears at first to be- Uh charming and she ends up being charming. Sarah's Marco's wife. Yes. So those are our main characters. Yeah. Oh, we have Daniel too. Yeah, he's, he's a side piece. Daniel- Literally. He's a neighbor side piece- Yeah for Daisy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, you have lots of things to say, so let's- Well- get started my lots of things really aren't that much, I just want to go on a tangent about one specific thing. Okay. I understand that Daisy was in a relationship that was horribly abusive and he was controlling, but she made me insane. I don't know if it was just, I don't think naive is the right word, maybe it is, just gullible and just we're 10 steps ahead of you, girl. We already know what's gonna happen. I need you to come with us and handle this situation because we already got there. And I don't know if that's intentional by the writer. I don't know if he's wanting to make the book longer Yeah. Yeah, but he's- I mean- But that was the biggest, like it was annoying to me that I came really close to not finishing the book- Yeah because I just needed Daisy to get on board. It was very, very redundant. Uh- Uh-huh um, "I'm scared. I'm-" Uh-huh. And just the, "Oh, no, are we saying, he's a killer?" Yeah. Like, what? Mm. I, I just, I don't like characters like that. Uh, I, I don't know. I- Well, this book for me was hard anyway- Mm-hmm because we've read many of these versions of this book before. Yeah. And it's all based off of, The Stranger on the Train- Yes the original story. Yes. And... Everybody's trying to do these new twists on it- Mm-hmm and it's hard to do it justice. Yeah. And I don't think that this did it justice. This didn't do anybody any justice- Yeah at all. They wanted to take Stranger on the Train and then put it with a heavy, domestic violence twist. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And like I said, I understand her situation is bad and that's made her passive and meek and timid and the things, but you don't have to be those things and just stupid. I just felt like the book was very, redundant over and over and over again. Right. Of like, yes, we get it. And again, not belittling or not, like- Correct making this- No any less about the domestic violence. Right. But it was just She was- beating a horse. Yeah. Yeah. She was slow on the uptake with a lot of things. For example, you meet a man randomly in a bookstore who starts talking about switching killing partners, and you're like, "Huh, okay, cool." But she never agreed to it. She did not agree to it. She never did. He just went on, and then he, he took Duke's place of controlling her. Yeah, What was crazy to me, though, is he's like, "Here's my number or whatever, and get in touch with me about it," and but didn't give her any time to decide what she wanted to do. No, he didn't wait for a phone call. Right. He just did it. He just made the decision that he was like, "We're moving forward with this plan. Okay, thanks. Yeah, bye." And it happens. But because, he again, started out charming, started out, pretending he was the victim and that- Mm-hmm Sarah, his wife, was the abuser, and she was cheating on him and doing all the things. Mm-hmm. And he was trapped in this marriage because he gave her all the properties as a gift, in her name, so he would have to walk away with nothing. And then, it, you know, turns out he's obviously- Right the, the bad guy. But he knew who he was looking for. He knew- Mm-hmm to look... like, he- Mm-hmm zoned in on the, uh- Yeah abused woman. Mm-hmm. He was able to recognize it. Right. 100%, agreed. And went after that. Yeah, because that's what happens is he found, Daisy, and Daisy ends up trying to meet Sarah. And as she's talking to Sarah and meets Sarah, she's like, "Wait, Sarah's a lot like me." And I'm like, "No shit, Daisy. We knew that." Yeah. But anyway, he knew the type. He knew what vibes they give off and just how they act, how that- Yeah, because that's what he's doing to his wife. Exactly. He knows that- Things dark very well. So he knows what to look for, and that's what he's looking for, somebody that he can control. But if somebody hands you this book, Stranger on a Train- Mm-hmm like, I'd be like, "I'm gonna go to the next bookstore, uh- Yep later." Yep. I'll do audiobooks anyway. Yeah. Let's go ahead and, and jump on out of here. My bad. I thought this was that liquor store. Um. I mean, I, it just blows my mind. I know. I know. It was... I was not a, a fan of Theo's writing. No. I think I've read other books by him that wasn't this bad. It, this was just very- That that's- You know, it's accurate. The s- your story gets your point across, but I mean, I took three naps in the middle of the book. Yeah. So, anyway, so Marco comes to collect after he kills Bruce, and he's like, "Okay, now you have to kill her." She tries to, meet Sarah, and she does talk to Sarah a little bit, and then, she figures out that she's like me or like her. Brian, we need to talk. I've already told you, I tried to kill him off with this, uh- Appendicitis? appendix, yeah. Yeah, she just got on my nerves the whole time. And, this whole time she's, having a little dalliance with Daniel, the neighbor. And at first I thought the way she comes across as being just ditzy and naive and trusting- Mm-hmm I thought she was putting on a show. Yeah. And she was trying to connive Daniel into doing things for her. Okay. That's what I w- I thought at any moment it was gonna be like, "Mwah." Never got that. Nope. But he was setting up to take her away. He was setting up to take her away, but I thought she was going to be a manipulator. We also, like, find out that, Bruce. His dad's the mayor. Yep. And so there's a lot of political power. There's a lot of, Which is why she didn't leave him. Right. One of the reasons why she didn't leave. Right. Yeah. So and she feels like, even if she tried to run away, they would, um... 'Cause Daniel, his father, the mayor- Mm-hmm had his mother committed to a mental institution- Yeah and then supposedly committed suicide. Yeah. So she was afraid that she would have the same fate. Mm-hmm. Which I can understand. Like, that's very- Mm-hmm intimidating. Mm-hmm. And so I can see,- even without that factor, being in an abusive relationship, I can see not leaving. Right. Because you are so worn down, and you're, just don't have the confidence to leave, and, um- Mm-hmm you don't have the resources or- The resources you're isolated Right. Yep You don't have the financial support you would need, and she doesn't wanna go to her parents because she doesn't want her parents to get involved and to put them in danger and all those thoughts. Right. So, that was a big factor, with the family- Mm-hmm dynamic. And why she didn't leave Bruce. Right. Yeah. So her only option, in that moment, she felt was like, "Well, maybe this is an option- Mm-hmm to get him," like- And she thought about it, but she get him whacked. Okay, mob. Don't put that out there. What if they get us? Do I ever tell you, 'cause, you know, like, my, virtually from Jersey- Mm-hmm that there was, um... We lived, like, really close to New York City. Mm-hmm. um, a head, a, just a head was found, a decapitated head was found in the dugouts, of our, town- No. Yeah. No, you have not just told me that ever. Mm-hmm Was there any, like, do you remember anything about it? I- Like, was it somebody or- No, I have a, I have no clue, but- I am fascinated with mob stuff a decapitated head. And then my uncle lived next door to a family, and, the family was, like, super chill, whatever. Mm-hmm. And the dad of this family got arrested because he was the Ice Pick Killer. Who is- Richard Kuklinski? I don't know. No, like it- No, no, no, no. Okay. But, uh, he was, a hitman- Yeah for the mob. So there's this... I'm fascinated with, hit- I'm so weird. Fascinated with, hit men and mob stuff. There was this guy and his name was Richard Kuklinski, and they called him The Ice Man, is what they called him, 'cause he would put his victims in- On ice on ice. And then,, this was,, I think, like, the '70s or whatever, and then he'd eventually, you know, years later, leave them out, and they couldn't determine time of death or anything because they'd been frozen. Crazy- Mm-hmm crazy, crazy. That kind of stuff. I'm so twisted. Oh, yeah, I know. But he's like, he was the nicest guy, barbecues in the backyard- Oh, my gosh family man, and he was a hit man That's terrifying fascinating. I know. Bananas. Mm-hmm. So anyway, what would you give this book? I don't know. Like a two? Yeah. That's terrible. I was gonna say maybe three. Yeah. Nice, but yeah. Yeah. It's low. It was poorly written. It did not keep my attention at all. Even though you know it's based on the Stranger on a Train, you think there's gonna be some more excitement. Like I said, nothing. Too many people are trying to remake the same books- Mm-hmm with like a twist on it. Mm-hmm. And they just need to come up with something new. Mm-hmm, agreed. Uh, the same thing with like movies and stuff. Everything is just getting to be repetitive. Yeah. I am excited though because they are making a series, Crystal Lake and- Are they? in October. So I'm excited for that. That'd be fun. I like, I like scary stuff. I know you do, and October's the perfect month for that. I know, yeah. Don't make me do anything with that. No, you don't have to. But we do need to like start planning- Yeah, we do for October. Oh my gosh, yeah, because it's the middle of freaking August already. Yes. All right, cool. So- If you guys have suggestions, we should take a vote of what we should do for Halloween. Yeah. We should do that. 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