Can You Trust Your Feelings?

Can you trust your feelings to tell you what’s true?
Or could they actually be leading you in the wrong direction?

We live in a culture that constantly tells us to “follow your heart,” “trust your feelings,” and “live your truth.”

But what if your feelings aren’t as reliable as you’ve been told?

In this episode of the Speaking Your Lingo Podcast, Shane Lingo explores the role emotions should actually play in discovering truth. Through personal stories, cultural examples, and biblical wisdom, this episode challenges the idea that feelings should define reality and offers a better way forward.

If you want more conversations that help you think clearly about Christianity, culture, and worldview, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes.

Transcript

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Hey, welcome to the Speaking Your Lingo podcast, where my goal is to help this generation think well. My name is Shane Lingo, and today we're gonna be wrestling with a big question. Can we trust our feelings to tell us what's true? Now, last weekend my family and I we got to go on a camping trip for the first time since moving here to Texas, and it was awesome. We found this place in Oklahoma, uh Chickasaw National Recreation Area. And if you've never been, it's beautiful. Natural springs, trees, lakes, just an incredible spot. But something happened the first night that we were there. You see, we left Friday night after work and we wanted to squeeze in one extra night. So we left that night and just headed straight there, which meant we had to set up camp in the dark. So we pull up to the campsite, we start unloading everything. And as I'm getting ready to set up the tent, I start hearing something rustling in the leaves, maybe 20, 30 feet away from us. And a reminder, it's pitch dark. We can't see anything, but I keep hearing it and it sounds like it's getting closer. So I look at my wife and I'm like, hey, do you do you hear that? Like, what is that? And so we grab our iPhone flashlights and we're kind of standing on this the edge of this hill. And you know, iPhone flashlights are the weakest possible flashlights in a moment like that. And we start shining our flashlights down the hill to try to figure out what this thing is. And we can't see anything. But whatever it is, it's not leaving. And if anything, it's actually getting closer. So now my mind starts racing because I'm used to camping in Northern California and Utah, and I'm thinking, is this a bear? Um, you know, something like that. And then I'm thinking, wait, are there even bears in this part of the country? I don't think so. And so now I'm trying to remember like, what are all the kind of animals that are in this part of the country? And so next I throw on my headlamp and decide I'm gonna go check out whatever this is. And so I tell my wife and she looks at me and she's like, Are you crazy? Like, you're gonna go down there and you're gonna face whatever this thing is. And in my mind, I'm thinking, look, if I don't figure this thing out, this thing's gonna eat me or it's gonna eat my kids. And so I gotta go, I gotta go figure this out. So I walk down into the woods, and this is what I see: an armadillo. So cool. First of all, I've never seen one of these things before, but it was awesome. But instantly in this moment, everything changed because I went from thinking I'm about to get attacked by a mountain lion to yelling, guys, hurry up, come, check this out. Look at what I see, look what I found. And here's the thing if you were to compare what I felt was in those woods to what was actually in those woods, they were completely different because emotionally, I was dealing with fear, danger, I was dealing with kind of worst case scenarios. Reality, it was a harmless armadillo. And this is the point. Our feelings are not always reliable guides to truth. In other words, our emotions and our feelings aren't always helpful in determining what is actually real. And honestly, this isn't just about camping. We've all experienced this. For example, have you ever gotten into a relationship because you felt it was right? You just felt it was the perfect right decision. I have. And a lot of those relationships, they didn't turn out so well, right? But thankfully, that was before I met my wife over 17 years ago. Uh, we've been married for 17 years now. Um, but we've all made relationship mistakes like that. Let me ask you another one. Have you ever had buyer's remorse because you let excitement make the decision for you? I have. 18-year-old me thought it was a good idea to get into a six-year car loan at 18% interest on a Honda Civic. Okay. Um, we've all made decisions like that. What about on the other side? Have you ever bought something because you were stressed or because you were sad or because you were lonely and it was something that definitely wasn't in the budget, right? Honey, why are there 14 Amazon packages on the porch? Where did all of these come from? Okay. Um, here's what I'm getting at. Our feelings are not always reliable in the way that we really want them to be. There are times when our feelings simply cannot be trusted. And that becomes a really big deal when we actually start using our feelings to determine what's true. So here's where we're headed today, just to kind of give you an idea. First, we're gonna clarify what truth actually is. Second, we're gonna unpack why follow your heart feels natural, but ultimately can mislead us. And third, we're gonna go to scripture for practice for a practical framework you can use when you're caught in your feelings. Now, we live in a culture that constantly tells us follow your heart, right? Follow your heart, trust your feelings, live your truth. And I actually get why these slogans are really appealing for many of us, me included. And that's because many of us, we don't like authority. I don't want anyone telling me what to do, right? Um, sometimes I think it's easier just to follow my own heart, follow my own feelings, do what I want to do. And at the same time, this isn't just something that people want to believe. This isn't something that we want to fall into, but this is actually something that our culture is purposely pushing on us. I would even say that when you think about it, there's actually an epidemic in our culture today of people trying to determine what's true based on their feelings. And think about it. You hear this everywhere, you hear it in movies, you hear it in music, you hear it in social media, and it's really in the air that we breathe. Um, honestly, sometimes it shows up in the most random places. So, for example, Mulan 2. And yes, they actually made a Mulan 2. And no, it's not even close to the original, and no, it's not good. But in that movie, one of the things that you see is they give this really clear message to trust your feelings above everything else. Listen to this line from the movie.

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By following my feelings, I wound up doing the right thing. I guess I learned that my duty is to my heart.

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By following my feelings, I ended up doing the right thing. So here's the message. If duty and your feelings conflict, choose your feelings, right? Uh if something is required but doesn't feel right, reject it. If you don't like what if you don't like what's right or wrong, or you don't like the moral code, redefine it based on how you feel. And that's just kind of the message it puts forward. And that sounds good until you actually think about it, because you know, our feelings don't always lead us to what's true or don't always lead us to what's right. And it's not just movies in our culture, it's it's music too. Think about that 1980s song, Listen to Your Heart by Roxette. Okay. And let me read some of these lines. Listen to your heart, there's nothing else you can do. Or when you're lost and can't decide, listen to your heart, it knows the way. Okay. It's this whole idea that your heart knows better than your mind. And if you just listen to your heart, if you just kind of turn your brain off and you allow your heart to lead, you're gonna get to the place that you want to go. And honestly, again, that sounds comforting. It sounds freeing, but it assumes something that just isn't true, that your heart always knows the way. But we've already seen a few examples show us that's just not how it works. Our feelings can be real, they can be strong, they can feel convincing, but that doesn't make them true. Now, we know our feelings can mislead us in relationships, they can mislead us in finances, they can mislead us in everyday decisions. But what happens when we use them to define truth, morality, identity, or even who God is? And this is where things start to really go off the rails. And this is really the places where it matters so much. Because sometimes people base their biggest life decisions or their deepest beliefs on their feelings. And this is where you can get into a lot of trouble. So let me give you some examples where I've seen this. Somebody says something like this they say, I just feel like God is telling me to do this. And look, I'm not saying God can't guide people. I'm saying that if the only reason you're calling something God's voice is because it feels strong or it feels comforting or it feels urgent, you might just be hearing you, right? I mean, one question to ask is how do you tell the difference between your own thoughts and feelings and God speaking to you? And that's something we all have to wrestle with. Or somebody says, you know, I just have so much peace about this. God's clearly leading me here, or God's clearly calling me here because of the peace that I feel. And again, I'm not denying that God can lead. God can do whatever God wants to do. But I'm saying that if the main evidence is just how you, how intense you feel or comforting the feeling is in the moment, we might be covering our own desires in some sort of spiritual language to try to get what we want and try to put the blame on God, that that's where God is ultimately leading us. And so sometimes what we're calling God's voice is really just an inner monologue we're having with ourselves and we're putting that on God. And so if the whole case for God told me, you know, to do whatever it is boils down to it feels right or it feels peaceful to me, I feel a sense of peace. And honestly, this is one that I've heard many times. I've had this advice given to me when I'm trying to make a big life decision, um, is you know, do you feel peace about it? And really, I would argue that's not a that's not a biblical understanding of how we're supposed to make decisions, is essentially just because we feel peace about it. And so if it's if you're really, you know, trying to make a decision based off of the fact that you feel peaceful about it, then then odds are good we're kind of mistaking God's internal, we're we're mistaking our internal feelings, I should say, for God's authority. And we we don't want to do that. Now, let me give you another example. Think about uh how we handle disagreement in our modern day. Okay. Someone says something and we respond with, that offends me, or I'm offended. And the assumption becomes because I feel bad, it must be wrong. But me feeling offended doesn't mean that I should be offended. And it doesn't mean that the other person did something wrong in order to offend me. I could just be being sensitive that day. Or maybe the most common example of basing our deepest beliefs on our feelings today is in the realm of identity. And so we hear people say things like, I feel this, so this must be who I am. And I'm not saying that our feelings can't point towards something important, but our feelings can't tell us who we are. And if we let our feelings become our final authority, we can actually end up building our whole life on something that can change by the moment. You know, we hear things like, I've always felt this way, and um, this is just my truth. This is my identity. But I've felt something for a long time doesn't automatically equal that whatever I'm feeling is the true deepest, truest thing about me. And so the point is people make decisions that shape their entire future and even their eternity based on how they feel in a moment. And and that can be dangerous, and we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna see how in in just a bit. But I want to make a quick clarification because there is a category people often mix up with feelings. And I want to make sure that we kind of separate that so we don't we don't get confused on that, and that's intuition. And intuition isn't just an emotion, it's it's more of kind of like a snap sense of knowing, a snap sense of judging something. And most of the time it actually comes from experience. Your brain is seeing patterns and it's seeing patterns enough time that it can kind of connect the dots really fast. But it's not without information and it's not without reason, but it's kind of happening in the background of our minds without us knowing it. And that's why you see examples of people like chess masters who can look at a chessboard and just see the move. Or why we can walk into a situation and think, I don't know why, but something's not something's not right here. Something's off here. Um, and it's more than just a feeling. And there are moments when when we can sense something just isn't right, um, or something is right, even before our complete logic has time to catch up. And so feelings, we we would say to distinguish these two things is we're talking about the difference between feelings and intuitions. Feelings are emotional signals, and intuition is rapid pattern recognition. Both can actually be wrong. That's that's an important thing to take away, too. But they're not the same thing. Now, real quick, I want to mention if you're new here uh to the channel and you want more conversations that help you think through Christianity, culture, and worldview, I want to encourage you, make sure you subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss our future episodes. All right, but here's the question we're really asking today. What role should our feelings play in determining truth? What role do they play? And when I talk about truth, I mean objective truth. Things that are true, whether you believe them or not. Think about it this way: imagine that you and your family, you're on a vacation and it's somewhere amazing. Uh, let's let's say here in the Promised Land, the beautiful state of Texas, and you get bitten by a super venomous snake. Okay. Uh vacation's not going so well now. So you're rushed to the hospital, and the doctor tells you, hey, you're lucky you came in today. There's only one anti-venom, and um that's gonna that's gonna be able to save your life. And we have it here. So lucky you. Now imagine if you looked at the doctor and you said, Whoa, hey, I don't, I don't like anti-venom. I don't think it will work. You know, I want to try some essential oils, okay? That wouldn't work. If it's the one true cure, if the antivenom is the one true cure, it's the one true cure. Whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not, that's that's how objective truths are. They are what corresponds with reality. And they're true whether we recognize them or not. They're they're true whether we like them or not. They're they're true whether we feel good about them or not, because they are objective. And that's different than subjective truths. Subjective truths are things like your favorite music, your favorite books, or whether dogs are better than cats. Although I would argue dogs are objectively better than cats because cats are evil. Okay. But you get the point, right? They're subjective. And that's how feelings are. Feelings are not objective, they are subjective, even though sometimes they can help kind of point us in a certain direction. And the problem is our feelings don't always correspond with reality. And this becomes really important because when we build our foundational beliefs on feelings-based experiences, we can get things very wrong. And what I'm talking about, the idea that we shouldn't let our feelings lead us, this isn't new. This is something that people have understood for a very long time. Even the men of the founding generation recognize this. For example, Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 15, why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice without constraint. In other words, people struggle to follow reason. This is something that has been part of the human condition for a long time, right? Because our passions, what they tend to do is pull us away from what is true and what is just. Franklin, he said it even more simply. He said, if passion drives you, let reason hold the reins. And that's a helpful picture for us because, in other words, what Benjamin Franklin is saying is feelings aren't bad, right? Feelings can be a good thing. Feelings have their place, but they were never meant to be in the driver's seat. And so we need to put our feelings in the proper place. Again, it's not that feelings are bad. And during this whole conversation, I hope that's not what you're picking up, is that feelings are bad and we should just shut them down and we shouldn't listen to them um completely, things like that. But we do want to put them in the proper place. And I think that's ultimately what Franklin was getting at. Even the soap philosopher Epictetus said this What is the cause of all human evils? It is the yielding to irrational desire. So, across history, from philosophers to the founders, there's been this constant understanding when passions lead, truth becomes unclear and life ultimately can turn to chaos. And as Christians, we can actually take this one step further. Okay. We look to God's word as the ultimate standard of truth. Because when it comes to our emotions, we don't just need to do whatever feels right. We actually need wisdom. I want to read a couple passages that speak to this. Jeremiah 17, 9 says this the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately sick. Who can understand it? Which means we can't just blindly go into trusting what we feel because the heart is deceitful. And I don't think Jeremiah is saying that it's always deceitful, but often enough that if we blindly trust it, it's going to lead us to trouble. And so Jeremiah isn't saying that every feeling is a lie. I don't think that's what he what he's trying to say in this passage. But it's saying that the human heart really isn't a trustworthy authority. We actually need more than that. Proverbs uh 14, 12 says it this way: There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death. And that's really the danger of living by our feelings or allowing our feelings to ultimately lead the way. Instead, we're told Proverbs 3, 5, and 6, trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. And then lastly, I want to look at what Paul says in the New Testament. In the New Testament, Paul says this, 1 Thessalonians 5 21. He says, Do not despise prophecies, but test everything and hold fast to what is good. Again, what Paul is essentially saying here is I don't want you to be gullible. I don't want you to believe everything that comes at you, but I want you to test things. And I think if Paul was here today, he would say that includes testing how you feel in the moment. We need to test those things and we need to analyze those things in light of ultimately what we know is true. Here's the question: what what do we actually do with all of this? Because at the same time, the answer isn't just ignore all your feelings. That's not realistic and it's it's not biblical. It's not what the Bible calls us to do with our emotions. We're not called to be complete stoics in that sense. And I would argue that I don't even think the Stoics ultimately believe that. But we need to understand that our feelings are real and they have many important functions. And I don't want to miss this. Okay. Um, some things that our feelings do for us, they act as warning signals. Sometimes our feelings just tell us like that something's off, uh, whether that's something's off with us or something's off with a relationship. Um, but they can they they can be warning signals. They they build relational connection and empathy with others. We need, we need emotions in order to do relationships well. We can't do real meaningful relationships without our emotions. Uh they motivate us, right? They get us going, they get us excited, they get us passionate, they um can give us righteous anger to fight for causes that we need to fight for uh and stand up for, right? And they can help us connect with others. And so they they really motivate us. Um, and they're ultimately, I would say, one of the things that actually makes us humans. They're they're one of the things that really separates us from other creatures in the world is how strongly we can feel about things and what those feelings ultimately motivate us to do. And so what I'm trying to say is feelings matter, but they were never meant to be our authority. And so I once heard it said this way all feelings are real, but not all feelings are valid. And when I say valid, what I'm trying to say there is when we say all feelings are real, but not all feelings are valid, is they're not always an accurate interpretation of reality. And this is one of the reasons I don't like the saying validate their feelings. And that's something that's been around for for I don't know how long. You know, you want to validate their feelings. What I tend to think is listen, I'll validate your value as a human being. I'll validate that you're actually feeling things, but I don't always want to validate your feelings, especially when those feelings aren't worth validating, right? We all have feelings, me included, that aren't worth validating. And so when people say to validate someone's feelings, I'm like, I don't know about that. Listen, again, I'll validate your value as a person, um, that you're valuable. And I care about the fact that you're you don't feel good or you know, you're having these strong emotions, um, or if you're grieving, I want to validate that, but I don't want to validate all feelings, especially when those feelings aren't worth validating. So emotions can help us respond to truth, but they can't reveal truth. In other words, feelings are great at connecting us to what is true, but they're not so great at showing us what is true. So, one way you could say it is feelings are really they're they're indicators, they're not decision makers. And yes, we want to feel things. Again, I want I want to say that God gave us emotions for a reason. So, one of the things that I think about in a relationship with God, right? For example, when I sing in worship, I want to feel something. I want to connect with God and I want to connect with Him through an emotional experience. But I want that experience to be connected to what is true. So when I'm feeling something emotionally, I want to make sure that those emotions are essentially under the authority of what is true. Like I'm connecting to the truth of the gospel. So I might get emotional when I think about the reality of what Christ has done for me, um, what he's what he's done for us, that he ultimately gave his life for us. And, you know, when I think about that deeply, that can bring me to a moment of of weeping. But again, those emotions are connected to ultimately what I've taken the time to think about, what I've taken the time to study, what I've taken time to find evidence for. And then in light of that truth, then I want my emotions to connect with what is true. But here's the important part we want what we feel to be based on what we know is true. So feelings can respond to truth, but they don't define truth. So I would say it this way if your faith in God is simply based on a feeling or an emotionally charged defining moment, I would encourage you to look deeper. Not that those feelings weren't real, not that that emotionally charged defining moment wasn't a real experience with God. I think it absolutely could be. But again, then the next step is to dive deeper, um, not into your heart necessarily, but into why you should trust Christianity in the first place. So, really, I'm speaking to Christians right now, or maybe I'm speaking even to some who are on the verge of Christianity. Um, if God is real, uh, which I believe he is, then we should expect to have emotional experiences because we're entering into a relationship with God. And throughout that relationship, we should expect to have these emotional experiences. But then after we have those emotional experiences, we want to take a step back and maybe analyze it a little bit deeper. Because if our faith is only based on emotional experiences, that can be dangerous because a lot of people have emotionally, emotionally charged experiences in many different faiths, faiths that contradict what the Bible says, faiths that contradict Christianity. And they can't all be true because they hold on to mutually exclusive truths. So we want to look deeper and say, okay, yeah, I feel these emotional experiences, but now we're trying to ask, are they real? And do I have good reason to trust them? And ultimately we want to ask that about Christianity in general. We don't want our relationship with God to only be based off of these emotional experiences. And so some great resources as you're wrestling with some of those questions that I was thinking about. Uh Cross-examine by Frank Turek, and he has a couple of great books as well. Uh, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. And so look into Frank Turek cross-examine, lots of great YouTube videos as well. Uh, Stand a Reason by Greg uh Kokel uh or Kukel. I always always mix that one up, but um, he's great. He also has a great book on Worldview and and lots of great books out there. And then uh another great one is Reasonable Faith by William Lane Craig, and um, he does a fantastic job as well. And so uh you can find books by all these guys, and you can also find great online resources as you're wrestling with those questions and trying to dive deeper into why you believe what you believe. But all great places to start for why we have good reason to trust that Christianity is ultimately true. What you'll find is that there's so much great evidence out there. Uh, and what I found is the more that I look into the evidence that Christianity is true, the greater I'm actually able to emotionally connect with that truth, right? It actually allows your emotional experiences to, in one sense, be better because you're not just basing them off of a feeling in the moment, but they're actually grounded in something so much stronger and something so much more tangible. So feelings change. They're subjective, right? They're they're often misleading. And I like to think of them kind of like a check engine light on the car. It tells you something's happening, but it doesn't tell you exactly what's wrong. Uh, it's not a map, it doesn't tell you where to go. It's not some sort of compass or some sort of GPS, but it tells you that something's wrong. And it doesn't even really tell you exactly what's wrong, but it, but it's an indicator for us. And so I want to make this practical for us today. And I want to give us four questions to ask when we're stuck in our feelings. Okay. But before we dive in, these they don't just apply to everyday emotions. These also, I want to say, apply to our biggest questions in life. They apply to what is true about God? Uh, what should I believe? What's real? Because if feelings can mislead us in the small situations, which we can all admit they they have and they do, then they can also definitely mislead us in the ultimate ones. And so these questions become not just important in our everyday lives, but they also become important when it comes to kind of those big bigger questions in life. And so, um, first, in moments when emotions are strong, don't start with what are my feelings telling me? Start with what is actually true in this situation. And one of the ways you can do this is you can try to make it concrete. You can take some time to write down the facts. So, kind of the the who, the what, the when, you know, the why, the the where, all of those questions. No commentary, no interpretation. And write down the basic facts about the situation. And what you're doing when you do this is you're training yourself to see reality before you react to it or before you respond to it. Um, because if you get the facts wrong, your feelings are going to follow in the wrong direction as well. And this is especially important when it comes to faith, okay? Because a lot of people are start to or are taught to start with kind of the question, what do I feel? But a better starting question is, what is actually true? And along with that, helping you answer that question, and what does the evidence, what evidence do I have to support the direction that I'm leaning, right? And this is something we have to wrestle with before we base our whole lives on any religion or any belief system. We want to wrestle with this because we shouldn't build our lives on something just because it feels right. We want to know that it's true. And the good news is, again, as we spoke about a moment ago, there is good evidence for why Christianity is true. And there's real reasons that we can trust it. So, again, truth isn't created by how strongly we feel about something, but truth is discovered. And so we want to ask questions to make sure we're getting down to the truth of the matter, not just what we feel. Next, we can ask do my feelings line up with what I know to be true? And sometimes they will and sometimes they won't. And that's okay. Because again, as we said before, feelings are real, but they're not always valid. And it's okay for our feelings to be off because that's just part of how feelings work. And think about how often we feel things like everyone's against me, right? When really maybe one person is upset at us. And so one kind of practical piece of advice that you can do when you're thinking things like everyone's against me, everyone hates me, uh, and we recognize that our feelings aren't really matching up with reality, is what we want to do is we want to take whatever that feeling is, um, take that misguided feeling, and then we can finish this sentence with it. I feel blank, but the truth is blank. So I feel like everyone hates me, but you know what? But my mom still loves me, right? My family still loves me. Uh my best friend still loves me. And so we can take that misguided, you know, feeling and we can help kind of submit it under the authority of truth. And um, that one sentence, it can be powerful to help you do that. And one of the things, one of the reasons I think it's important is because you're not denying your emotions in that moment. What again, what you're doing is you're placing them in their proper place under truth and helping to again see reality for what for how reality actually is. Uh, then you can ask, what does God say is true about this? So, what does God say is true about this? And this is where everything starts to shift because we don't evaluate God's truth based off of how we feel, but we evaluate how we feel based off of God's truth. And, you know, maybe you need a wise Christian to help kind of going through God's word with you. Uh, and that's great, and that can be helpful as well. But scripture, when when we go to God's word as opposed to trusting our feelings first, scripture then becomes our reference point, not our emotions. And that's ultimately what we're trying to do. Um, because our feelings can change, but God's word doesn't, his truth doesn't. And so we can always go to his word as this solid objective standard, even when our feelings kind of get chaotic, or even when our feelings start to point us ultimately in the wrong direction. Now, finally, uh, we can ask this question Are my emotions too strong right now to make a wise decision? And this is huge because we don't want to make major life decisions in highly emotional moments. And that can happen. Uh, I once heard it said this way when emotions are high, wisdom tends to be low. When emotions are high, wisdom is is is low. And so what we want to do in moments where our emotions feel out of control, they feel chaotic, maybe we're angry, maybe we're really sad, maybe we're grieving. We want to slow down, we want to give it time, and we want to seek wise counsel. Um and really sometimes that's the most spiritual thing you can do is really just pause. Pause, take a step back, kind of reflect on what's going on in the moment, wait till your emotions simmer down, and then you can ultimately make a better decision uh than when your emotions are kind of out of control. So uh don't ignore your feelings, but don't follow them blindly either. Let them point you to something, but let wisdom and with let wisdom and truth and reason be the things that ultimately lead you to where you need to go. Um, because again, feelings can inform you, but they were never ultimately meant to lead you. And so as we wrap up today, I want you to think about kind of those practical steps you can take, see how you can apply those this week, um, and and and really kind of wrestle with some of these big questions that we we talk about today. And so, with that, as always, I want to say thanks for listening. Thanks for subscribing, and I'll see you on the next episode.