The Regular Guys Bible Study
The Regular Guys Bible Study podcast -- RGBS -- is a podcast for regular guys by regular guys (not theologians) studying the Bible together. It's brought to you by a couple of goofy guys who just want to study the Bible together and show you that anyone can read and study the Bible. In fact, you SHOULD read and study the Bible yourself. We're here to show you how we do it, and, hopefully, we can have some fun along the way.
The Regular Guys Bible Study
1 Peter 4:1-11
Have you ever wondered if the gospel could be preached to those who have already died? Buckle up for an entertaining and thought-provoking ride as Ken and Steve embark on a journey through 1 Peter 4:1-11 in our latest episode of the Regular Guys Bible Study Podcast. We kick things off with some amusing anecdotes about our daily lives, from crafting door handles to dealing with an icy aftermath. Our conversation takes a humorous twist as we discuss what a "rugged man's Bible study" might look like while embracing our own nerdy sides. As we delve into the passage, we highlight the contrast between living for God's will and succumbing to human desires, with plenty of laughs along the way.
In the next segment, we tackle some heavy theological questions, exploring the struggles of early Christians and the complexities of biblical doctrine. Did the gospel reach those who had already passed away? We weigh in on this intriguing question and consider different translations and commentaries, linking them to Noah's time and the anticipation of Christ's return. Wrapping up, we summarize our key points and give you a sneak peek of our next episode, where we'll continue our study with 1 Peter 4:12 to the end. Join us for another engaging episode filled with regular guys exploring the extraordinary word of God.
You are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study Podcast, the Bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your hosts, Ken and Steve, and we are just regular guys studying the Bible together.
Speaker 2:Not theologians. Shouldn't it have been nerdy guys, bible study, the nerdy guys Bible study yeah um yeah, maybe I don't know, steve.
Speaker 1:I mean, I am a nerdy guy but.
Speaker 3:And genius.
Speaker 1:The truth is let me fix that in in my world, a nerdy guy is a regular guy in the world. I live in nerdy guy is a regular guy and in my uh yeah, I mean I guess it would specify. I mean there's other worlds, like where I have some other friends that are really like he-man guys, you know, like they hunt a lot fish a lot. I like to fish occasionally, hunt occasionally, but I'm not that guy, you know Me either. I'm not the rugged type.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:So if we had a rugged man's Bible study?
Speaker 2:It would be totally misnamed.
Speaker 1:It would be really awkward for us. We'd be acting like Tim the Tool Time guy. Did you watch that show?
Speaker 2:I did. I'm not quite sure how we ended up there.
Speaker 1:Well, we'd have to talk like him because he had a show Anyway.
Speaker 3:What have you been doing?
Speaker 2:today. Let's see. You see those handles on the door over there.
Speaker 1:I made some handles for a door.
Speaker 2:Did some yard work yeah did uh. I fixed a uh chip in my windshield on the truck wow well, I hope I fixed it. I bought one of those little kits oh cool, did the.
Speaker 1:Thing that's pretty cool. You can still see it, though it's not as good as when you get it, don't places. Fix that for free.
Speaker 2:I think so yeah.
Speaker 1:Alright, well, good job.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not really free. They claim it on your insurance.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's not free at all.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you know we had an ice storm A year and a half ago that took down a lot of trees and limbs and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I decided to clean up some of that stuff and burn some stuff.
Speaker 2:Just now you're getting around to that.
Speaker 1:Well, the truth is, we have a ton, we had a ton.
Speaker 2:I had a ton too.
Speaker 1:And when it happened, the house was still being built.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:And so a lot of it was shoved off to the side by the builders. And now I'm getting to it, and so I've been burning all day.
Speaker 2:You know I thought about burning today. I didn't feel like it was safe necessarily.
Speaker 1:It rained at our house.
Speaker 2:More than a couple of drips.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Because ours was barely detectable.
Speaker 1:It was west of you it was raining and west of me it was pouring down.
Speaker 3:Lucky.
Speaker 1:Anyway, all right. Well, that's everything for today. Thanks for joining. I'm sure everyone really enjoyed all that nonsense. Anyway, all right. Well, that's everything for today. Thanks for joining.
Speaker 2:I'm sure everyone really enjoyed all that Okay.
Speaker 1:Anyway, today we are on 1 Peter 4, and we believe we're going to do chapter 4, verse 1 through 11. 1 through 11.
Speaker 2:It's not very long. No, it's not that long, but there's a lot of stuff in here actually.
Speaker 1:We can unpack this as people say yeah. Let's unpack it and elevate it. I actually have quite a few notes here.
Speaker 2:All right, some of them might be overlap, because, you know, I don't remember my notes from the first time.
Speaker 1:I started. Yeah, that's true, all right.
Speaker 3:Well, why don't we get started?
Speaker 1:don't me to read since you said you sound a little hoarse. Yeah, do you want me to read? Or sure, go ahead that's a donkey. Uh huh, it's a little horse which fits you perfectly, steve. All right, let me read Chapter 1, peter. Chapter 4, verse 1 through 11. Can you?
Speaker 2:read it in sort of a rhyme-y, lilty voice. No, okay, just thought I'd ask.
Speaker 1:Since, therefore, christ All right.
Speaker 1:Since, therefore, christ suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves with the same way of thinking, for whoever has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh, no longer for human passions but for the will of God, for the time that has passed suffices for doing what the Gentiles want to do, but for the will of God, the same flood of debauchery, and they malign you, but they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead, for this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead that, though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit, the way God does.
Speaker 1:The end of all things is at hand, as each has received a gift. Use it to serve one another as good stewards of God's varied grace. Whoever speaks as one who speaks oracles of God, whoever serves as one who serves by the strength that God supplies in order that in everything, god may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to him belong glory and honor. No, to him belong glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Speaker 2:Honor too. It's just not here, it's not written there.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, phew, all right. I've got some thoughts, but what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:When's the last time you've been to a drunken orgy, Ken?
Speaker 1:Well, I do have several Gentile friends.
Speaker 2:Well, and you are a Gentile.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think I am, but I do want to address that in a little bit.
Speaker 2:No, you don't go there to get dressed.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me just say I have not done any of these Sensuality passions. I do have passions that sometimes have nothing to do with God. Drunkenness, that's not me. Orgies, that's not me. Drinking parties, I mean, I go to a like when we go to a work party. That's a drinking party, I think, isn't it?
Speaker 2:I don't think that's what this means yeah, maybe not some people. I've been to parties where people get drunk yeah but I've definitely been to those parties, yeah but I don't get drunk and lawless idolatry. I'm not even sure what that one is.
Speaker 1:Lawless. What is lawless? Idolatry how is that different from idolatry?
Speaker 2:Or lawful idolatry.
Speaker 1:Lawful? Is that just? Oh, maybe it's talking about the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 2:Oh probably. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Idolatry, though I think we fall into that, and Peter probably falls into that occasionally.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to ask that stupid question. That wasn't really my note. Okay, so it starts out with arm yourselves with the same way of thinking. So I think that's going to be key for these verses. And so I went through and made some bullet points.
Speaker 1:Ooh, wow, you did some real work.
Speaker 2:First of all, we've sinned enough. We should live God's will.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Don't do those things in verse three that we just talked about.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Give account to him, so don't take what does that mean? I think that means don't take credit for something God did.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Give God the glory I'm assuming.
Speaker 1:Hold it. Where did you get this from? This is verse 4.
Speaker 2:With respect to this, they are surprised when you're not joining us.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see. Okay, yes, but they will give account to him. Who is ready to judge the?
Speaker 2:living and the dead. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:So that's, different.
Speaker 2:Self-control, verse 7.
Speaker 1:Be self-controlled and sober-minded.
Speaker 2:Love each other Verse 8. Show hospitality Verse 9. Serve with your gift or gifts Verse 10. And do all of this in God's strength and glory Verse 11.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, okay, and what does that tell us? Steve, you did that, you did that stuff.
Speaker 2:That's what we're supposed to arm ourselves with. We're supposed to live this or not live it, as the case may be.
Speaker 1:All right, can you list them again? I'm sorry, I need them listed again.
Speaker 2:Live God's will. That's verse two.
Speaker 1:Live God's will.
Speaker 2:We've sinned enough and shouldn't do the things in verse three.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:We should give account to him or they will give account to him at the time of judgment.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure how to apply that one that doesn't really be in the list. I don't think.
Speaker 2:Self-control verse 7. Love each other verse 8. Show hospitality verse 9. Serve with your gifts verse 10. And do all things, all of this in God's strength and glory, verse 11. And do all things, all of this in God's strength and glory, verse 11.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that is, arm yourself with the same way of thinking, right? So when you say so, in other words, well, that's what it means, to arm yourself with the same way of thinking, correct, okay, I think the second part of that verse is also very interesting Of verse one.
Speaker 2:Yes, for whoever has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin. Yeah, I wanted to touch on that too. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have not ceased from sin.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure you haven't suffered either, like Christ.
Speaker 2:I know I have not suffered like Christ. Okay, I wouldn't be here had I done that.
Speaker 1:So one thing it says whoever suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin. First of all, what does that mean?
Speaker 2:Does that mean they died.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I think it means, if you suffer severe.
Speaker 1:Persecution.
Speaker 2:Persecution in the flesh. Maybe it does mean you die. That makes more sense to me for cease to sin, because I don't think it's possible to cease sinning.
Speaker 1:But it does say so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh, no longer for human passions but for the will of God. So first of all, I don't think it means anyone who suffers in the flesh. Because it just says whoever has suffered in the flesh, but I think it means for the sake of Christ.
Speaker 2:Oh well, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:Because lots of people suffer, but that doesn't mean they won't sin again. I don't know. I don't know, I don't know the answer to this. That seems far-fetched to say that if you, steve, were to go do something and you were to suffer harm, people would throw rocks at you and almost kill you.
Speaker 2:I think you're taking it too far, but go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to continue, though. If you know, if you try to bring somebody to Christ and a mob attacks you and stones you you almost die or beats the crap out of you until you almost die, are you never going to sin again?
Speaker 2:I don't think I can do that.
Speaker 1:You don't think you could not sin.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yes, because you are still in the flesh, but it says so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh, no longer for human passions but for the will of God be as simple as denying some of these things that Gentiles want to do, Because that is of the flesh.
Speaker 2:To desire to do some of these things and to not do them, you're suffering to not do them. I don't struggle with orgies personally. I know you probably do. I know how it is out there in the country. We just get invited to so many you know. I just have never gotten an invite. I'm getting a little self-conscious about it.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah, wow, you're supposed to wear. You don't have one of those little black rings. Really, yeah, wow, you're supposed to wear. You don't have one of those little black rings, do you? Nope, is that what somebody told him? No, I think that's swingers or something.
Speaker 2:It's about the same, isn't it? Probably there's something about an upside down pineapple in the grocery store. What, apparently, if you put your pineapple upside down in your cart, you're available. I don't know Something like that.
Speaker 1:Has that worked out?
Speaker 2:for you. I've never tried it. You know it might be an interesting experiment, just to see if anything happens.
Speaker 1:That would be weird. Don't do it, steve.
Speaker 2:No, I wouldn't do that you could be off to the side filming. No, not no, I mean in the grocery store. Where's your mind going, ken?
Speaker 1:I did not go there, I did there. Anyway, all right, let's go back to this scripture. I think you might be right I think I'm reading way too much into this that I think the whole cease from sin is really talking about ceasing from this Gentile way of life.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:With that new list here Now I do want to point out something that by this time I am pretty sure that Peter has already seen the vision of the sheet. Seen the vision of the sheet. This is an axe where Peter sees a vision of a sheet laid down with all these animals and things, and he's anyway the whole point. God is showing Peter that Gentiles can be believers as well.
Speaker 2:Right, and you can start eating everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's saying that nothing is unclean, that I have made clean, and so the point is, though, that I think in this case the point was don't call a Gentile unclean if I have made them clean, clean if I have made them clean, and so I'm wondering here if Peter now considers these Gentile believers as Jews.
Speaker 3:That I mean why would he?
Speaker 1:why would he?
Speaker 2:you know? Yeah, do we know if he's talking to Jews or Gentiles here? I thought we said he was talking to Jews.
Speaker 1:I think he's talking to Jews, but we don't know. I don't understand why he says like the Gentiles do when, at this point, I believe he knows that Gentiles are coming to Christ and he agrees with that. Now, maybe I don't have the order of operation correct.
Speaker 2:Well, I just glanced at the intro and it says that the Christians he's talking to were struggling with being persecuted, and it was written probably in 60 AD, so I'm pretty sure it's after Acts yeah, so that's got to be after.
Speaker 1:Acts. Okay yeah, go ahead, goat head um, yeah, go ahead, goat head.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to read verse four through six again. Okay, with respect to this, they were surprised when you do not join them in the same flood of debauchery and they malign you. But they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead, for this is why the gospel. So you remember last time we were struggling with the whole Noah thing.
Speaker 1:I think you're going the wrong route here, but go ahead, you're going the wrong route here, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:Well, it said that he went back and preached to basically the dead from the time of Noah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To me it sounds like people might get another chance after they die.
Speaker 1:No, I disagree with that, steve. Look what he says, though, that, though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does. I believe, and I looked at other translations as well. So some other translations say for this is why the gospel is preached, even to those who are now dead. So, in other words, the gospel was preached and they lived a life pure, lived a life for Christ, and then they died.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So Christians, these are the Acts, believers, some of them have died Sure by now, and that's who he's talking about, I think.
Speaker 2:Given that he just talked about Noah in the previous chapter.
Speaker 1:I mean, I hear you, let me.
Speaker 2:He went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison because they formerly did not obey. I mean, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I mean even the NIV, which is a very trusted translation, says, For this is the reason, the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the Spirit.
Speaker 2:That didn't clarify anything for me.
Speaker 1:Well, it's who are now dead. That's the key. Dead in the spirit. You mean no, no, now they're living to God in regard to the spirit, but live according to God. In regard to the spirit, I don't know.
Speaker 2:You're only making me more confused. I think yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm making myself more confused. I don't think I should talk anymore.
Speaker 2:So one of the biggest complaints people have with Christianity is have with Christianity is well, how can I believe in a God that would make some guy in the jungle that's never heard the gospel go to hell? And there's at least a little evidence here that maybe those people do get a chance.
Speaker 1:I know this is one of those things that's core doctrine. I guess I don't know, Steve, I don't read that like this. Well, it's only because of the Noah stuff in the previous one that I read it that way. Yeah, I mean, I understand what you're saying and when I first read it.
Speaker 2:You're catching what I'm throwing down.
Speaker 1:When I first read it. I read it that way as well. But I did look at these other translations and I did read a little bit of commentary and people are saying that this was talking about people who are now dead and it's because they were expecting Christ to come back a second again before they died.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess he is talking about people that are being persecuted and suffering in the flesh and likely some of them have been killed, some have died, some have been killed, some have just died for whatever other reason.
Speaker 1:Because then he goes on to say the end of all things is at hand, therefore be self-controlled, sober, minded, blah, blah, blah Um you just blah, blah, blah, for the sake of your prayers. I did, I did, that's, that's yada, yada. Uh, yada yada, I yada yada'd over the best part, anyway, that's when you say I mentioned the bisque. Okay that's a Seinfeld reference. If you don't know, not that that's a great Christian show. No, it's a Seinfeld reference. If you don't know, not that that's a great.
Speaker 2:Christian show? No, it's not.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So one of the things we led a study or we did a podcast on John, the book of John, a while back and there was something in John. When Jesus, after he's come back, after he's risen from the dead I'm sorry, after he's risen from the dead, and the disciples are in the boat and Jesus is over there cooking some fish.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:And they see him, they go over there and Jesus says to Peter Three times. Yes, but I'm not talking about that part.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:Says to Peter regarding to John, he says what is it to you if he lives until I return? So he tells Peter he's going to die a horrible death pretty much. And then he says what is it to you if John lives until I come back again? And then John says he didn't say that he would live, that that disciple would live forever or until Jesus comes back.
Speaker 3:He just said what is it to you if he?
Speaker 1:does. But the way he said that kind of implied that Peter kind of took it to say John was going to live until Jesus comes back and that Peter would not, and so you had a point. My point is that if people ascribed to Peter's way of thinking, they likely thought that meant that Jesus would come back before John dies, not that John would live forever like a Highlander.
Speaker 2:There can be only one.
Speaker 1:But that Jesus would come back before John's death, would come back before John's death. So that might be why that might be one of the reasons why they think it's got to be soon now.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:That's just.
Speaker 2:That was a really long explanation.
Speaker 1:Man, I'm doing my best here. I'm just a regular guyve, you you really matched that potato oh man, all right. Well, all right. I guess that's all I got. I don't know what else to say about that? What do you have to say about that?
Speaker 2:What do you have to?
Speaker 1:say about it, Mr Smarty Pants? About what? About the second paragraph? Here At least I said something you jerk face, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:That meant that in the nicest way possible you know possible. I don't really have much on the second paragraph.
Speaker 1:You know why? Because it's complicated it is okay, well, you know, I mean, you took notes about how we should live, and that's really part of that was the second paragraph he says you know it's almost over. He's saying so be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers.
Speaker 2:And yet here we are, 2,000 years later.
Speaker 1:Yes, but he says what does that mean, though, be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers, not just.
Speaker 2:I think it's going back to the human passions thing. Don't give up and partake of things you know are sin.
Speaker 1:And that's going to help your prayers.
Speaker 2:Good. You're showing more faith and trust in God.
Speaker 1:Do you think that's saying that God is going to answer your prayers more if you do this, if you are self-controlled and so reminded? Or is that saying that you will be able to pray for things better?
Speaker 2:Probably some of both, I think. If you live more faithfully, I think you're more likely to get your prayers answered, because you're more likely going to be living in the will of God and praying His will in the first place.
Speaker 1:I was going to say and you're going to be praying different things.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, love one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's good marital advice there.
Speaker 1:Yep and friends, you know no one can hurt you more than the people you love the most.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And and loving them earnestly, it says, covers a multitude of sins, yours and theirs, right.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Because sometimes my wife is a jerk to me. Really, you've heard me say that.
Speaker 2:And you're never a jerk to her.
Speaker 1:Exactly, that's exactly what I was sayingve. Yeah, wow, okay, we should record that.
Speaker 2:Oh, we did I'll be sure to tell her to listen to this episode um, all right, show hospitality, hospitality to one another, without grumbling.
Speaker 1:What is hospitality?
Speaker 2:So the thought that came to my head was serving one another, but hospitality, specifically, I think, is more like serving someone in your home, isn't it?
Speaker 1:I think so, like if somebody drops by say oh come on in, let me make you some tea oh, you gotta go already.
Speaker 2:So all right, here's the door let me cook you a brisket.
Speaker 1:Let me uh let me go slaughter a cow and but the key is without grumbling yeah so why does she always come over when we're trying to watch tv, I don't know when trying to pay bills?
Speaker 2:you know, we really don't have that problem here of people just randomly showing up at our house.
Speaker 1:That's actually the sad thing about living further out is I don't have that problem. I kind of wish I had that problem a little bit. I mean, you know I've told you before it's one of my accountability things is to talk to my neighbors and you know, people are a little more alone out where we are, to themselves.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm closer and it's not much different here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're still on a couple acres, true, all right. So let's see. As each has received a gift. Oh, I found this interesting. As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another as God's stewards of God's varied grace.
Speaker 1:Good stewards, not God's stewards as good stewards of God's varied grace, not God's stewards as good stewards of God's varied grace. Whoever speaks as one who speaks oracles of God, whoever serves as one who serves by the strength that God supplies in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ. All right, so there is some teaching, steve.
Speaker 2:There's lots of teaching. There is some teaching that Steve.
Speaker 1:There's lots of teaching. There's some teaching that everybody should speak in tongues.
Speaker 2:That again.
Speaker 1:But to me it's clear in the Bible that that is not a gift that everyone gets.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:And here he says you know, as each has received a gift, so he does say you will receive a gift. You have each received a gift from God. Use that gift and he says a gift.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was surprised by that, because a lot of other places it's.
Speaker 1:Gifts, Plural, Right. But whatever gift you have, he says use it to serve one another. And he says you know, whoever speaks is one who speaks oracles of God. So if you have a gift to speak, then do it the right way.
Speaker 2:That's not me.
Speaker 1:If you have a gift to serve, then do that the right way, and he just lists two here.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:But you know, know, there's others. He could say if, if giving, then give all you have.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, give the right way.
Speaker 1:Um, if it is um, if it's um compassion, then go have compassion on people, show, show empathy.
Speaker 2:That is not me.
Speaker 1:That is definitely not you. I have a lot more empathy than you do.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I'm sure. I struggle with that one, I'm sure there's something somewhere, maybe, that you could do better than me.
Speaker 2:Maybe I doubt it I'll have to think about that.
Speaker 1:Oh actually no, You're better at being a narcissist than me.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so. You've got that one nailed.
Speaker 1:That is not true. I'm working on it, but I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2:I was expecting you to say you're the most humble person you know.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So the point is here Whatever gift God gives you, do it for God, use it, don't hide it under a bushel, no.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a reason he gives people different gifts. If everyone did their part, there would be no lack.
Speaker 1:That's true. We would have lack different gifts Everyone. If everyone did their part, there would be no lack, that's true, we would have lactation, you're milking this for all it's worth. You're much better at puns than I am.
Speaker 3:I can't even come up with another one Curds.
Speaker 1:I don't know Something about curds, curds, curds. I'll just. I think we should stop.
Speaker 2:This is too cheesy, that's better.
Speaker 3:All right Thank you All right.
Speaker 1:To him belong glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen, all right, that is actually a good spot to stop. He even says amen. That means that's the end. So be it, that's how I felt when I was reading this chapter, but there is another small couple of verses here, yeah, but we're just going to wait to get those in next week. All right, can you give a summary, steve?
Speaker 2:Arm yourselves with the same way of thinking.
Speaker 1:All right, I'll give a summary.
Speaker 2:You look shocked by that I was just gonna read the same thing I read at the beginning. Oh my, gosh.
Speaker 1:All right. My summary for this is um, because first of all, remember he was saying you know who would, who would suffer if they're doing good. Oh, but all right, if you do suffer for doing good, it's better. That's last chapter. It's like you might suffer, but it's all right. It's a good thing to suffer for good but not suffer for bad. So then he goes on to say you know, christ suffered and he did good, nothing but good, and if you suffer, then you will be counted. I think he's saying you're going to be counted, blessed for that suffering, and you won't struggle with sin.
Speaker 3:That's what he's saying.
Speaker 1:You won't struggle with sin if you go through suffering for Christ, and that might be true, I don't really know.
Speaker 2:I don't know either. Apparently I haven't suffered. I have not suffered like that for Christ, and that might be true. I don't really know. I don't know either. Apparently I haven't suffered.
Speaker 1:I have not suffered like that, for sure. But he says you won't. And you know what, make sure you stay away from this. You know all the party scene and all this evil stuff people do around you and they're going to fun of you for it. And, by the way, I've half had people say make fun of me or or kind of goad me, trying to get me to do to drink way too much or something you know. Um, and it's just stupid. I think it's based on maybe them feeling better about themselves.
Speaker 2:Probably.
Speaker 1:Other people do it. So you know people are going to make fun of you for not joining in. That's okay, just do the right thing, let's see. Then he says you know Christ is coming back soon. So you know, be good, do the stuff you're supposed to be doing, and that's about it and use your gifts for God.
Speaker 2:Good job Ken.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's my summary.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:What else, steve, anything?
Speaker 2:I think that's it. I think we're done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we're done All right. Well, goodbye everybody.
Speaker 2:See you next week.
Speaker 1:Next week will be 1 Peter 4, verse 12 to the end. You forgot to hit record no-transcript.
