The Regular Guys Bible Study
The Regular Guys Bible Study podcast -- RGBS -- is a podcast for regular guys by regular guys (not theologians) studying the Bible together. It's brought to you by a couple of goofy guys who just want to study the Bible together and show you that anyone can read and study the Bible. In fact, you SHOULD read and study the Bible yourself. We're here to show you how we do it, and, hopefully, we can have some fun along the way.
The Regular Guys Bible Study
Ruth 4
What happens when ancient customs meet modern technology? We find ourselves chuckling over last week's mishaps, especially with Steve's dance attempts, before diving into an exploration of Boaz's bold moves at the city gate in Ruth chapter 4. Our conversation takes an unexpected turn as we draw parallels between traditional land negotiations and today's house-buying processes. Personal anecdotes about regional notary quirks and the infamous sandal exchange throw a humorous light on these customs, making us wonder about the curious blend of old and new rituals.
Amidst the laughter, we tackle the tangled web of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their connections to Rachel and Leah, all while underscoring the importance of personal Bible study for clarity. This episode isn't just about historical tales—it's about the story of redemption, with Ruth and Naomi at the heart. We debate the directness of scripture and Naomi's surprising role as Obed's nurse, pondering how these ancient narratives intriguingly foreshadow the story of Jesus, our Redeemer.
Just as we get into the groove, we realize our time is up, but not before teasing our future adventures. With a nod to the progress made and a heartfelt hope for more engaging discussions, we wrap up this episode. Stay tuned for the next installment, where we'll continue unwrapping the layers of the Bible's fascinating characters and stories, and maybe, just maybe, see more of Steve's dance moves.
you are listening to the regular guys bible study podcast, the bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your host, ken and steve and steve we're just regular guys studying the bible together, not theologians all right steve, I know last week I complained a little bit about you not not dancing appropriately and you know I'm not gonna say it was appropriate, but you danced, I did. I guess I think that's what that was called.
Speaker 2:There's a whole lot of movement and shaking going on.
Speaker 1:It was movement. It was movement. I saw your. I'm glad you had your shirt on, but I could tell you know you were like advertising for Peloton if we had a video series going on. What just happened to the sound? Uh-oh, I don't know. Your default microphone changed. Ugh, let me see.
Speaker 2:It seems back now. Yeah, but it went weird echoey there.
Speaker 1:That was a little weird. Let me make sure everything's good on my side. I'm not going to stop anything. You know why?
Speaker 2:Because I don't care about my listeners. All five of them.
Speaker 1:I just don't care about the five listeners. All right, our output is set to RODECaster. Yeah, input is RODECaster. All right, and yes, we use the RODECaster, if you didn't know.
Speaker 2:You sound a little echoey, or maybe too hot or something. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I am pretty hot. It doesn't show that my vocals are too hot, but it shows that my body is too hot. You think that's a problem, steve? Do you have a problem looking at me? I think it's a sin to lie. All right, well, all right. So, steve, today is our last chapter in Ruth, chapter 4. And that's our first foray into the old Testament. It's been, you know, it's just a quick four chapter, little minor prophet thing. Do you call this a minor prophet? It's not really a prophet.
Speaker 2:I think this is history, isn't it?
Speaker 1:It's just a story yeah, it's a true story of how.
Speaker 2:I would call it prophecy. I mean it foretells of Jesus in some ways, In what?
Speaker 1:ways. I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I think we'll get to that in today's discussion I think we will All right All right, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, should we go on? And you know what? I forgot to mention this over the past several podcasts. But you should really read the chapter before you listen to the podcast, because, as we all know, when somebody else reads something and you're listening unless you are some incredible auditory learner you're most of it's going to just go straight over your head and or in one ear and out the other. So so, if you have not read Ruth, chapter four, uh-oh what.
Speaker 2:What I think we lost connection Did we, let's see here. How was that? Are you back?
Speaker 1:I'm back. You keep freezing on your video.
Speaker 2:I think maybe I'm probably too far from my Wi-Fi All right let me move.
Speaker 1:Should we start over Nah? Why People enjoy this drama People enjoy how stupid we are and how, yeah, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Why did you set up?
Speaker 1:in a different place today.
Speaker 2:Because the table we normally set at hasn't been reset up oh, because you took it to mancation I did so. Mancation is a thing where a bunch of nerdy guys get together and play board games for two days in a row yep, and I didn't go this time.
Speaker 1:This is the first time I've missed in a long time, by the way.
Speaker 2:Because you had to watch UT lose to Georgia.
Speaker 1:Those are fighting words, steve, but they're true. They're true fighting words. Just shut up already, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Is that a sore subject? It?
Speaker 1:that a sore subject. It is a sore subject and and actually my wife was going to make me go to christmas on mercer but it was raining and then so you could have come. I could have come that morning actually, and I decided that you know it raining, I didn't feel like getting out in the rain, so I could have come that morning. Wow, but I worked on my book so I did good things, so that's a plug, a shameless plug, for a book that doesn't exist yet.
Speaker 2:And probably won't for another 10 years no, no, no.
Speaker 1:It has to be out within a couple of years.
Speaker 2:I'm working hard all right we should get going.
Speaker 1:All right, let's go. Um then let's. Uh, hopefully the audio is was recorded well. I never heard anything bad, by the way, so I think everything was good on my side, so I think the recording is good. Other than that, it's not very fun to listen to what we're saying. But why don't we get started? Do you want to read? Why don't you read the first paragraph, steve, first section, or?
Speaker 2:first paragraph.
Speaker 1:Read the first paragraph through six.
Speaker 2:All right. Now Boaz had gone up to the gate and sat down there and behold, the redeemer of whom Boaz had spoken came by. So Boaz said turn aside, friend, sit down here. And he turned aside and sat down and he took 10 men of the elders of the city and said sit down here. So they sat down. Then he said to the redeemer, naomi, who has come back from the country of Moab. Then he said to, I will redeem it. Then Boaz said the day you buy the field from the hand of Naomi, you also acquire Ruth, the Moabite, the widow of the dead, in order to perpetuate the name of the dead in his inheritance. Then the Redeemer said I cannot, all right.
Speaker 1:So you know I've looked up some of this stuff about redeeming and stuff because it's all very confusing to me. First of all, there's never been any talk of land Right. Has there been any talk at all of Naomi selling a piece of land.
Speaker 2:Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1:No, but I think it's just part of the Redeemer process. And people, if you read the internet, people are thinking Boaz had a strategy here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sure seems like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his whole goal was to take Naomi I mean Ruth as his wife. He really wanted Ruth as his wife, and it might be because she was pretty. It might be because she you know, he's worked with her quite a bit and knows her character and who she is. It also might be because his wife has passed away. Do we know that? No, we don't know that. It's her his wife, if he has one is not mentioned, however, um commentators believe that boaz was a man of standing, of high standing and it would commentators, is that like a baked potato yeah, it's, it's a commentator, it's a russet.
Speaker 1:Okay, but the commentaries, I guess, is what I should have said. The commentaries I've read said that he was most likely married, at least at one time, so it's possible he was still married. It's possible he was married, um, and his wife passed away. So I mean remember there was a famine, which is why ruth and uh, alimelech, uh left, um, I mean, naomi and elimelech left, all right, so anyway, um, why do you? Okay? So what do you think boaz is doing with the land?
Speaker 2:I would assume he's gonna farm it no, no.
Speaker 1:Why does he bring up the land first?
Speaker 2:instead of oh, instead of ruth um, I, I would assume it's so. You know, in presence of the elders, everything was put forth.
Speaker 1:I think it was to try to not look like he's interested in Ruth. So he's saying because you know, why would you not want this land? You know you can farm this land. It's like you know I figured you should have the first right to this land. You know you can farm this land. It's like, uh, you know I figured you should have the first right to this land because you know you're the first redeemer in the, in the chain, and if you don't get, if you don't want it, it's going to drop to me.
Speaker 1:And of course this guy says oh yeah, I'll take that land because that's actually going to help his inheritance. Right, he'll have more land to give now and then he brings up oh, and you know well, you also have to take Ruth. It's like ah, so why do you think that would hurt his inheritance or impair? It? Says lest I impair my own inheritance.
Speaker 2:That is a good question. I assume he's already married. He's probably got a firstborn son that's going to inherit his current inheritance.
Speaker 1:He could have multiple sons.
Speaker 2:Could, but it would have to go to Ruth's son if she had a son right.
Speaker 1:Yes, and part of it's my understanding that part of the redeemer process, the whole point or one of the entire points of being a redeemer, is to give her children. So it's not like you could take her, as he could not take her as his wife and not lay with her.
Speaker 2:All right. So when he said, when he said, buy it in the presence of those sitting here and in the presence of the elders of my people, that's in single quotes, so let's just jump to where that is quoted from, which is Leviticus 25. What verse is this this is verse four, leviticus 25. Wait, no, yeah, verse 4. Buy it in the presence of those sitting here and in the presence of my people.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:I didn't even see that little single quote, and it's Leviticus 25, 25. If your brother becomes poor and sells part of his property, then his nearest redeemer shall come and redeem what his brother has sold. If a man has no one to redeem it and then himself becomes prosperous and finds sufficient means to redeem it, let him calculate the years since he sold it and pay back the balance to the man to whom he sold it and then return to his property. But if he does not have sufficient means to recover it, then what he sold shall remain in the hand of the buyer until the year of Jubilee. In the Jubilee it shall be released and he shall return to his property. That opens up a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, what does that mean then?
Speaker 2:And then it goes into what Jubilee means and stuff. Um, I think uh, hmm, yeah, this feels weird because it isn't a man that's poor that's selling his property, it's a the widow, but she is poor man. She is poor, yes, and she's selling her daughter-in-law. She, you know it does feel a little bit like she's being purchased.
Speaker 1:Uh, yeah, it does feel a little bit like she's being purchased. Yeah, I don't really like how that's worded. I think it was a completely different meaning than we would have today. Right, it wasn't like a slave is sold. I think it's more like a dowry is sold. I mean, you know, in places today people will give dowries, pay dowries for a wife, right?
Speaker 2:right.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, Is that and?
Speaker 2:that's sort of a purchase. What sort of dowry is your son going to give to her parents? Or is it the other way around? I don't know who pays a dowry?
Speaker 1:I think it is. Is it the man that pays a dowry? See, I don't even know.
Speaker 2:I think let's see I don't know either.
Speaker 1:Who pays a dowry in a wedding, the man or the woman? A dowry is a payment such as property or money paid by the bride's family to the groom. Huh, here, take her, please take her. I'll give you stuff if you'll take this woman off my hands. Okay, so it's not like that at all. Nope, I don't know what to say, steve, I I don't think it's like in slavery. This is something that she I don't either it's and it's um. It is a purchase, um, but I'll say this so was christ's blood he.
Speaker 2:And see, we're getting into the prophecy.
Speaker 1:Oh, dang it, I walked right into that. You did, anyway. So, anyway, the whole point of that, I believe, is to make this first redeemer say that he does want it and then have him say, oh no, no, I can't take it. You need to take it. So, because I think you know, Boaz did not want to look like that. He wanted this redeemer. He did not. He wanted it to look like he did not want to be the redeemer he wanted to look like. Here's the situation. You can have this, and if you don't, then I have to do it. And so he made, because it's an obligation, right, it's an obligation, right, it's an obligation. So he put it out there as a positive at first and said, okay, but just so you know, this other thing might be a problem, this foreigner?
Speaker 1:This foreign woman might be a problem, and he tells Boaz to do it. All, right, now I'll read the rest of that paragraph. Now this, unless you have something else to say in that. Nope, okay, I got nothing. Now, this was a custom in former times in Israel concerning redeeming and exchanging. To confirm a transaction, the one drew off his sandal and gave it to the other, and this was the manner of attesting in Israel. So when the redeemer said to Boaz, buy it for yourself, he drew off his sandal. Then Boaz said to the elders and all the people you are witnesses this day, that I have bought from the hand of Naomi all that belong to Elimelech and all that belong to Chilion and Malan. Also, ruth the Moabite, the widow of Malan, I have bought to be my wife to perpetuate the name of the dead in his inheritance. That the name of the dead may be cut off from among his brothers. What?
Speaker 2:May not.
Speaker 1:Oh, that the name of the dead may not be cut off from among his brothers and from the gate of his native place. You are witnesses this day. Then all the people who were at the gate and the elders said we are witnesses. May the Lord make the woman who is coming into your house like Rachel and Leah, who together built up the house of Israel. May you act worthily in Ephrathah and be renowned in Bethlehem, and may your house be like the house of Perez, whom Tamar bore to Judah because of the offspring that the Lord will give you by this young woman.
Speaker 2:Okay, here have my stinky sandal. Let's make a deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we can skip over that part. That was a custom. They had a. How weird is that? Well, you know, if we were to write a story about us, um in the in the just a few years ago, they'd say it was a custom back then when buying a house that you would sign um 75 different pages. Um, that hasn't changed. It actually has changed, steve. Do you know that much? Yeah, I, I did almost 75 anymore. I did almost everything through DocuSign. It was beautiful.
Speaker 1:It which I guess you still sign, but you just kind of click and you don't read anything. You you probably sell your soul to the devil.
Speaker 2:So the most recent house I sold, they sent out a notary and I had to sit there with her at the table and sign 50 documents, whatever.
Speaker 1:And you know why, Steve.
Speaker 2:Because it was backwards Ohio. Yep, it was even worse for my sister. She had to go to the notary herself instead of them sending one to her, and the notary took off his sandal. And made her hold the sandal while she signed all the papers, and then she had to send the papers in. I didn't have to do anything with the paperwork. But anyway, we're getting off track.
Speaker 1:I think so. Anyway, the part about how they guarantee that the deal is done, it doesn't really matter. They had a way of doing it, a way of doing it um, but I think it's interesting that they they bring up like rachel and leah. So that's a story of uh, what is that? Uh, isaiah, what?
Speaker 2:story is that that is uh Israel.
Speaker 1:That's the story of Abraham.
Speaker 2:Jacob.
Speaker 1:Israel is Abraham so.
Speaker 2:No, Jacob's Abraham.
Speaker 1:What no? Is that right?
Speaker 2:Jacob is. Abraham only had one son. Israel had 12.
Speaker 1:Abraham had Isaac, right Isaac and Esau.
Speaker 2:Right One was from.
Speaker 1:Rachel and one was from Leah. Oh, I'm getting my moms messed up, isn't that right?
Speaker 2:I thought Isaac married Rachel, who was the father of.
Speaker 1:Isaac and Esau. I'm sorry, I'm asking Siri here. Abraham and Sarah are the father.
Speaker 2:Rachel is the wife of Jacob.
Speaker 1:Oh, hold it. Isaac was the son of Abraham and Sarah, yeah, and then Jacob and Esau.
Speaker 2:Sorry, jacob married Rachel yeah, you're right. And Leah Okay, I know more than you can.
Speaker 1:Well, weren't you like valedictorian in your high school, or something?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I wasn't deeply churched like you.
Speaker 1:Okay, but you know what, If you go to church your whole life and you don't pay attention, it doesn't really sink in. Steve.
Speaker 2:That's true. I wouldn't have gotten this from church anyway. This is from me reading the Bible on my own.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you know what? I've read my Bible too, and I still don't remember.
Speaker 2:That's an advertisement for reading your Bible, and you know what.
Speaker 1:That's also an advertisement for reading the whole Bible. I haven't read the Old Testament in a while.
Speaker 2:I hope that wasn't too loud for people.
Speaker 1:Actually I did not hear it at all. Steve's mic just fell over, I did not hear it.
Speaker 2:That's because I'm holding my laptop in my hands, man, is that what's happening?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I was trying to shift my weight because I'm getting legs falling asleep. This is really crazy. It kind of I was wondering, because it looks a little bit like you're in a rocking chair we will, we will rock you. Yeah, that didn't work anyway, okay, anyway, um, you know they, you know, they proclaim may your house be like rachel and leah, which I thought is funny, because I don't think rachel and leah got along very well um no, but they had all the sons they had a bunch of sons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, um, but rachel, you know leah had um children and she wasn't very pretty, or something.
Speaker 2:Actually, they didn't have all 12. Some of them were from the maidservants, weren't they?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm not even going to answer that.
Speaker 2:It's a different story, steve, that is a different story for a different time.
Speaker 1:Anyway, they built Israel. So they're saying they're basically giving them a blessing. And so they're saying for you being this redeemer, may you be blessed and may your house be blessed for generations and may your offspring be great. And we find out some things about their offspring in the next section. Do you want to read the next two sections, steve, or is there more you want to say about that section?
Speaker 2:No, I think we should go on, because I think we'll come back to this a little bit.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So Boaz took Ruth and she became his, his wife, and he went into her and the Lord gave her conception and she bore a son. Then the women said to Naomi Blessed be the Lord, who has not left you this day without a Redeemer, and may his name be renowned in Israel. He shall be to you a restorer of life and nourisher of your old age, for your daughter-in-law, who loves you, who is more to you than seven sons, has given birth to him. Then Naomi took the child and laid him on her lap and became his nurse, and the women of the neighborhood gave him a name, saying A son has been born to Naomi. They named him Obed. He was the father of Jesse, the father of David. Now these are the generations of Perez. Perez fathered Hezron. Hezron fathered Ram. Ram fathered Amminadab. Amminadab fathered Nashon. Nashon fathered Salmon. Salmon fathered Boaz. Boaz fathered Obed. Obed fathered Jesse and Jesse fathered David. And I know I am butchering those names completely.
Speaker 1:That last part Steve said was not part of the scripture. That is him saying his.
Speaker 2:That was his change adding a jot or tittle Making commentary on my lack of pronunciation.
Speaker 1:All right. So Boaz took Ruth and she became his wife, and he put his penis in her.
Speaker 2:At least the Bible's a little less direct than that.
Speaker 1:Hardly, hardly, and he went into her. I mean, come on, that's. I think that's funny this is rated x.
Speaker 2:Sorry, if your children are listening, please put the earmuffs on that's not explicit.
Speaker 1:Is it to say that I don't know? Huh, I need to look that up because I don't want to have to mark this as explicit.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll look it up but boys have penises and girls have vaginas that is true.
Speaker 1:That is just the facts of life, the facts of life.
Speaker 2:The facts of life, that's uh, so yeah here we get back to where I say this is prophetic.
Speaker 1:Hey, this is not pathetic at all. This is a great story Prophetic, prophetic oh. Prophecy? Oh, okay, yeah, prophetic.
Speaker 2:He who has not left you this day without a Redeemer. Wait, blessed be the Lord who has not left you this day without a Redeemer, and may his name be renowned in Israel. This is a foretelling of Jesus coming to be our Redeemer, because this is in Jesus' lineage that is true, and the same word is used, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Redeemer. That's very interesting. A redeemer lives, and let me ask you this, though why do you think he calls? He says that? Um, because he's talking to Naomi here, who has not left you this day without a redeemer, and did he redeem Naomi or Ruth?
Speaker 2:See, now, that part's a little weird to me, but I think the answer is yes I think so.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's both. I think it is a different type of redemption for naomi, because naomi was given a home to live in, um, but she had already had a husband and had sons and she was very old. She would not need the same kind of redemption as ruth um, she was redeemed in that her land went to this man and he took care of them and those kinds of things. So but yeah, you're right, the Redeemer, who is our Redeemer? I think I already said it Jesus, it's the already said it Jesus.
Speaker 2:It's the Sunday School answer.
Speaker 1:Jesus, All right. And this doesn't mean, though, that Naomi, when it says, became his nurse, the baby's nurse. That doesn't mean like she nursed him right.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I think it means that she just helped take care of him.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's what I think too. And who named her son?
Speaker 2:So I click on it and see the strong number description and it says from whatever primitive root properly to build up or support, to foster as a parent or nurse, figuratively to render or be firm or faithful, to trust or believe. Where's the part I found interesting? Hang on, did I click on the wrong thing?
Speaker 1:I don't know, did you?
Speaker 2:I swear I saw it said something about lineage. Now I don't see it Okay.
Speaker 1:Maybe you read line age it could be.
Speaker 2:My eyes are old.
Speaker 1:All right. Do you find it interesting who named Ruth's child? Yeah, it says. The women of the neighborhood gave him a name saying a son has been born to Naomi, not to Ruth, to Naomi. And they named him, Obed I just I can't. I cannot imagine how mad and furious my wife would be if a bunch of women came around and said I'm going to name him. We're going to name him Obed.
Speaker 2:Which means serving. Is that what that means?
Speaker 1:It does. All right, and Obed ended up being the father of Jesse, who ended up being the father of David. And where's the lineage of Jesus From the father of David? And where's the lineage of Jesus From the father of David? Yes, all right. And then it gives out the whole lineage there. Sure, yeah, would you read that again, steve? No, I won't.
Speaker 2:I will not read that again.
Speaker 1:All right, well, anyway, yeah, all this took place for Ruth and. Naomi, and when I think about one reason I wanted to do this story, steve, is because I love this story. Do you know why I love this story?
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 1:I have been thinking a lot lately about what we call good and what we call bad, and the truth is, as followers of Christ, is there anything bad that happens to us? The Bible tells us all things happen for good, for the, good for those who are called according to his purpose, which is us, us.
Speaker 1:So what we call bad, what we really mean is hard or difficult. We go through difficult times and we go through hard times, but God has a purpose for all these things. And it's the same thing with Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers. You know, that seemed like a horrible thing and it was for him, right. It was horrible at the time, but it was for God's purpose.
Speaker 2:What does our pastor say? That God doesn't waste pain.
Speaker 1:He probably says that that sounds like something he would say yeah, yeah, say that God doesn't waste pain.
Speaker 2:He probably says that that sounds like something he would say yeah, yeah, he's not going to put us pain.
Speaker 1:God loves us right? He does not put us through pain just to watch us hurt.
Speaker 2:No, it has a purpose, but if that pain makes us draw nearer to him, then that could be.
Speaker 1:The purpose Could be and there could be other purposes that we don't know. That it makes us, it puts us in a place where he wants us to be. So that's what I love about this story, because Naomi and Ruth went through so much trouble, but the purpose here was to get to Boaz and be the father of Jesse, or create the father of Jesse and create eventually the line of Jesus, and I think that's really cool.
Speaker 2:So that's all I got. Should we look up the lineage of Jesus?
Speaker 1:Because I think, well, I know for a fact, that it mentions Ruth. But I'm curious, let me see. I'll look up one, I'll look up Matthew. Where is the other? Is it in Luke?
Speaker 2:I'll look.
Speaker 1:All right, the lineage of Jesus in Matthew. Let's see. Let's see the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham was the father of Isaac and Isaac, father of Jacob and Jacob, the father of Judah and his brothers, and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar and Perez, the father of Hezron and Hezron, the father of Ram and Reb, the father of Amenadab and Amenadab, the father of Nashon and Nashon, the father of Salmon and Salmon, the father of Boaz, by Reab and Boaz. The father of Obed, by Ruth and Obed, the father of Jesse and Jesse, the father of David the king. So yeah, did you find the other one, this Jesse and Jesse? The father of David the king, did you find?
Speaker 2:the other one? I didn't. I was trying to compare what you were reading to what it said here, and there were a couple additions in between.
Speaker 1:Somewhere between Perez and Ram Perez. Perez, the father of Hezron yeah, that's there and Hezron, the father of Salmon.
Speaker 2:Sam, I think they're all there. I think there's just some before.
Speaker 1:Okay, there was something in there. Oh, there was a, a judah, the father of paris, and, and paris and zara by tamar, but that it's mentioning other people that were in the line ram and uh, no, I read all that was there. It was, uh, amanab amanadab who, and then nashan andawn Salmon, so no, so was Salmon in there twice. No, just you know, father of Salmon, and then Salmon the father of Boaz, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, I was just kind of curious if it went from Naomi's side or if it went from Boaz's side. It sounds like it's Boaz's side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Steve, it looks like we're out of time. Excellent, all right, because we're done. It's perfect, we are done, and we will have to decide what we're going to do next time. If we're going to continue, so well, I'm continuing. We'll see if Steve comes with me. All right, guys, peace. No-transcript.
