The Regular Guys Bible Study
The Regular Guys Bible Study podcast -- RGBS -- is a podcast for regular guys by regular guys (not theologians) studying the Bible together. It's brought to you by a couple of goofy guys who just want to study the Bible together and show you that anyone can read and study the Bible. In fact, you SHOULD read and study the Bible yourself. We're here to show you how we do it, and, hopefully, we can have some fun along the way.
The Regular Guys Bible Study
Romans 2
This episode explores Romans Chapter 2, focusing on the theme of judgment and God’s kindness. Ken and Steve discuss the irony of judging others while committing similar actions and emphasize the significance of an inward transformation in understanding righteousness.
• Summarizing Romans Chapter 1
• Reading Romans 2:1-16 while urging listeners to reflect
• Delving into themes of judgment and personal accountability
• Examining God’s kindness as an invitation to repentance
• Transitioning to the context of the Jews
• Reading Romans 2:17-29 about true righteousness
• Emphasizing genuine faith versus outward appearances
• Concluding reflections on shared human experience and grace
you are listening to the regular guys bible study podcast, the bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your host, ken and steve, and we are just regular guys studying the Bible together not theologians no no, not theologians. Steve, why are you making pac-man motions to me?
Speaker 2:oh, hold that? No, I figured out.
Speaker 1:You're talking about mutes, you're doing mutes or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the sound would cut out in those parts and I wonder if maybe you're clipping or something. You know what, steve?
Speaker 1:I don't know, it's definitely not clipping. But well, it's not clipping on my side. I guess somewhere, maybe in Discord, maybe it's clipping.
Speaker 2:But I think Maybe they're living up to their name, you know.
Speaker 1:I am kind of lazy, okay, and so do you know how much research I did on how to use this for live productions.
Speaker 2:I'm going to guess close to zero.
Speaker 1:Well, you're wrong, because it wasn't close, it was. Yeah yeah, how much work did you do on that? Because you know what? It doesn't bother me at all, I don't even hear it.
Speaker 2:It's not that good of a song, so I don't really mind either.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's really mean. That is mean, all right. Well, I'm going to drop the mic after that comment. Don't drop it, it might hurt. I didn't hear that. It didn't make a noise. That's weird. It cut it out.
Speaker 2:No, there's nothing there, you can't hear that. No, really, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:It mutes it for some reason. All right, all right, let it be known that Steve tried to be annoying and he succeeded at that, but he tried to be annoying in other ways, all right, so we're on Romans chapter two. Steve, we are. And for those of you listening, if you haven't listened to Romans chapter two, I know, no, no, that's not what I mean. If you haven't read Romans chapter two, as always, we suggest you read the chapter before you listen to the podcast. We suggest you read the chapter before you listen to the podcast, because, in my opinion, it's really difficult to listen to someone read the Bible and just get it right the first time, and we're not going to read it three times. We're reading it once out loud. And we've read it how many times to ourselves this week, steve Five.
Speaker 1:I've probably read it five times this week and we still don't get it. So you know, read it. That's the whole point. Anyway, the whole point of this podcast is to let you know that you can read the Bible without somebody showing you and teaching you how to do it. So go read the Bible, then come back and listen. All right, so we're on Romans, chapter 2. In chapter 1, what happened, Steve? Just a sec, you're muted. What's going on here?
Speaker 2:Are you there, steve? I I'm here, but I don't know if you could hear it, but my dog started howling and so no, I could not hear it, just maybe it.
Speaker 1:Uh, I muted it yeah, I couldn't hear it, that's whatever. You have some background noise cancellation or something turned on, maybe so, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because my wife's practicing the clarinet. That makes the dogs howl, and if you can't hear the clarinet then I would stop this podcast right now.
Speaker 1:All right, so I think you were about to give us a quick summary where we left off, or are you not? I can, I'm actually Steve. I can, you, steve. That joke never gets old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were talking about all the bad things that people do and how God gave them over to their unrighteous desires. That was basically the end of one, and in two it's kind of a little bit of a slap in the face, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what has it got? It has a therefore right away, right, it does, yeah, and it's. And it's what has it got? It has a therefore right away, right, it does. So talks about although the new god's righteousness is the last verse and it's and kind of summarizes what they do, although they knew no god's righteousness. The righteous decrees that those who do such such things deserve death, and the things are lots of evil things. They not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them. All right, and Steve go. This is Romans 2, 1 through 16.
Speaker 2:16. You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of His kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness is intended to lead you to repentance? But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself.
Speaker 2:For the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed, god will repay each person according to what they have done. To those who, by persistence in doing good, seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile, but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.
Speaker 2:All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Indeed, when Gentiles who do not have the law do, by nature, things required by the law, they are a law for themselves. Even though they do not have the law, they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them. This will take place on the day when God judges people's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares Whew.
Speaker 2:That seemed a lot longer.
Speaker 1:when you read it, it's like you were reading really slow or something Was I, I don't know. You were being very deliberate.
Speaker 2:I was trying to make it to where people might understand it, Okay that's good.
Speaker 1:I guess it made it also not interesting though. No, I'm joking, but my wife is a librarian and she can read out loud really well, but she's an elementary school librarian. So when she has story time, you know she reads books and she puts inflection and stuff in it. And so when she reads the Bible she does a similar thing and it's so easy to read or listen to.
Speaker 2:I don't think we're very good at that. Maybe you should get her to read and then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:Is this the regular guys, plus a librarian Bible study? Steve, it could be, it could, but it's not.
Speaker 2:You know, I always think it's funny when I watch. It's a Wonderful Life. And you know when he's going through what all the stuff was when he didn't exist, and then he finally goes where's my wife, where is she? And the little angel's like, oh, I can't tell you she's a librarian.
Speaker 1:Like it was some really bad thing. Do you know that? I've never seen? It's a wonderful life, so I have no idea what you're talking about. You look, you have this look on your face to be kidding me.
Speaker 2:I know how can you have not?
Speaker 1:I'm in shock. I told my family that this year that there's some movies I haven't seen because you know you have a list of Christmas movies people watch. Is that a Christmas movie? Yeah, Okay. Well, it's only just a couple of years ago that I saw White Christmas for the first time.
Speaker 2:Okay, that one I can understand.
Speaker 1:It's not that popular.
Speaker 2:It's not by comparison. It's a Wonderful Life. Used to be on TV like six times every year.
Speaker 1:All right, we're way off topic. Anyway, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I'm sorry, I don't even know if I can be your friend anymore, that's all right, you don't have to be my friend, just do the podcast.
Speaker 1:We don't have to be friends, but I do want to see it. I will make sure I see it, but let's talk about the Scripture here.
Speaker 2:Steve, I would loan you our DVD, but that's how we lose DVDs, so you can't have it and that's how we lose DVDs.
Speaker 1:so you can't have it and I would have to hook up a DVD player who watches DVDs. What the heck is that? Why would I not just say to Siri play, it's a Wonderful Life, and it would find it somewhere and show it to me.
Speaker 2:You have a PlayStation, you realize that's a DVD player.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true. True, I can play it there. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyhow, I could do it now that we've totally gotten off track.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um. Should we read it again, steve?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to, but if you'd like to go, all right so romans, chapter two.
Speaker 1:He says you therefore have no excuse. So, um, we already said what it's there for, why he's saying that you don't have any excuse. Who passed?
Speaker 2:judgment on someone else? Yeah, because we're just as guilty. So, well, that's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I have this long paragraph here I wrote earlier last week. I'm going to read it out loud and hope that it makes sense. I haven't reread it today. Okay, so I've been thinking about how we are all in a fallen world and people have to deal with all sorts of things because of that. For example, my dad is bipolar. Some people have to deal with cancer or are more likely to get it. Some people have to deal with things like Parkinson's or Huntington's disease. Other people have to deal with alcoholism.
Speaker 2:All these things are because of the broken world and we don't celebrate those things. The closest one that gets celebration is perhaps alcoholics getting together to drink and get drunk and enjoy it, but when it comes to homosexuality, we don't try to treat it or overcome that behavior. We don't try to treat it or overcome that behavior. There's also a number of sins that, as far as I know, aren't tied to our genetics. Take, for instance, lust, idolatry and greed. For these we rely on self-control to overcome. The good news is that we can ask God to take any of these things away. He may not do it outright or provide us with the self-control. I don't think that sentence makes sense anymore, but my thought was maybe homosexuality falls into both camps, where it's a little bit of maybe predisposed and a little bit of choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, when it comes to there's a lot of sins, that well, first of all, the Bible teaches somewhere that our sins will be passed on to generations what is it? The seventh to the seventh generation, or something like that. And so I think we are predisposed to certain sins. Some people have and I think you could argue even some people have a stronger sex drive that might lead them to struggle with lust more certain genetic markers that those people tend to have addictive personalities, whether it be alcohol, drugs, biting your fingernails, gambling, gambling, those kinds of things. I don't know if they found anything with homosexuality, but I would not be surprised if there is.
Speaker 1:Some people have more tendency towards same-sex attraction than others, just based on genetics. And so you know, we are given burdens to carry. I mean, you know what, steve, some people are born poor. I mean, you know what, steve, some people are born poor, which causes other sin issues, potentially. Other people are born uber wealthy, which causes other sin issues. And then some people, you know, honestly, I believe I was, uh, truly blessed with um. I don't. I think I was, like you know, middle class um, parents don't did not find any addictions. My father smoked when he was in the military because they gave them to him for free. When he left the military he just didn't want to buy anymore. So he just never smoked again and he never missed it.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that the military gave out cigarettes for free.
Speaker 1:Well, back in the. You know he was in the Korean War, so yeah, back then it was a thing to do.
Speaker 2:I don't remember seeing that on MASH.
Speaker 1:I don't know when they stopped that policy.
Speaker 2:That's all I know about the Korean War is, if it was on, mash Was MASH.
Speaker 1:Korean War or Vietnam Korea? Oh, was it Okay? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, let me guess You've never seen MASH before either.
Speaker 1:No, I used to watch MASH. All the time, steve, we still do Gosh, you are so old, old you are so old it's.
Speaker 2:It's not me, someone else that lives in the house well, I'll say my wife.
Speaker 1:I'm sure if we're sitting there and she's going through the channel she'll stop on.
Speaker 2:Mash, that's a good show.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's funny. Why do we keep getting off, steve, on these stupid things? Because I think I'm ADHD, I think you might be and you're drawing me away. I am OCD and you're ADHD, but I'm not OCD enough to combat your ADHD. I think you're right. So anyway, I did have a discussion about this with my psychology daughter that I think that they need to remove the D off of a lot of these things. So, in other words, what things? I have obsessive compulsion with some things, but it's not a disorder, it's just who I am.
Speaker 2:I thought you were saying, like for depression, just make it Creshen saying, like for depression, just make it Creshen.
Speaker 1:No, I'm sorry, I'm talking about disorder. They call everything a disorder, but you know, it's just something that I need to learn to deal with.
Speaker 2:It's not a disorder and it's what makes us unique Impulsive disorder Sounds weird without the D.
Speaker 1:All right, shut up. Okay, Steve, what are we talking about? Dang it Attention deficit.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh Disorder.
Speaker 1:I think it would be attention deficit.
Speaker 2:No, ds, we're talking about the judgment of God someday.
Speaker 1:All right, but I want to go back to that very first sentence, because there's one thing I don't quite understand. He says you therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself.
Speaker 2:And then he says because you, who pass judgment, do the same things. Okay.
Speaker 1:What don't you understand? Is he saying that if you?
Speaker 2:don't do those same things you can judge so for example Steve. Oh, you're saying, if you were perfect, no, no, no, no, could you judge? Then I would say yes, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that Because, okay, in chapter one he just talked about men having sex with other men and that's a bad thing. Um, now, I don't do that but you do the other things you mean hold it. You said you weren't going to tell about the animal thing.
Speaker 2:I don't even know about this.
Speaker 1:I don't know, what that means.
Speaker 2:I apologize. That was uncalled for Please cover your children's ears. This has now become.
Speaker 1:No, it is not All right, anyway. No, but that stuff isn't Because you who pass judgment do the same things, or is it just saying you who pass judgment also sin?
Speaker 2:I think it's that.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:All right. Do you know why I'm not afraid of this judgment? Why to this judgment? Why Because when it comes, when I go before Jesus on that day in 16, when God judges people's secrets through Jesus Christ, he's just going to look at me and say I took all those sins, this person is clean, all right, but let's okay, then let me go, let's see.
Speaker 1:Person is clean, all right, but let's, okay, then let me go, let's see. All right, god's judgment is perfect, right, because based on truth when we judge. Do you think you can escape God's judgment as just a mere human being? The answer that's a rhetorical question. That's a no, you can't escape. But he says but to those who, by persistence in doing good, seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger, there will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil. Okay, so, steve, do you do evil?
Speaker 2:Unfortunately I do.
Speaker 1:Alright, so does that mean there will be trouble and distress for you?
Speaker 2:There's always consequences to our choices, and a lot of times those consequences are not pleasant, okay, I don't have a good example.
Speaker 1:But glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good, first the Jew and then the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.
Speaker 2:I think it's funny. He says it doesn't show favoritism, but it's always funny.
Speaker 1:He says doesn't favoritism, but it's always first, then for the Gentiles, for God does not show favoritism, so is that talking about here on earth? Because he says he will give eternal life Verse 7,. To those who, by persistence in doing good, seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. And then there's a but.
Speaker 2:As Christians, we know that we are not perfect and we are relying on Christ to be our part of that persistence in doing good. We're relying on His doing good, actually, all of it to be honest, actually, all of it to be honest.
Speaker 1:So I would say it's a little bit of both here and there. Yep, I just saw your wife. I did too. All right, okay, okay. So if I go down a little further, you know okay. So this section it ends with this will take place on the day when God judges people's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
Speaker 2:This will take place Sounds like, well. They talk like that's the point at which you get thrown into eternal life, or eternal hell, or death, or whatever they call it. The second death, Separated from God, yes, but what happens to people that die before that day? Where are they then, and have they been judged yet?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know the answer to that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Why would?
Speaker 1:you ask that question, steve. It doesn't say Maybe you knew, I don't know. So I find it interesting that he goes into the law quite a bit here and we are Gentiles right, you and I are. And he says and in fact this whole first section that we're doing is about Gentiles. The next section is to the Jews, and so I think that section is actually going to go pretty fast because we're not Jewish. But he said and he says this Indeed, when Gentiles who do not have the law do, by nature, things required by the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. They are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. Does that mean that? What is he referring to as the law first of all? Is that the Ten Commandments? I don't think so, because he talks about circumcision here, which is not part of the Ten Commandments he's talking about. But is he talking about the Jewish law itself, or is he talking about things that we.
Speaker 2:It seems like basic right and wrong.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's basic good and evil. This is right and this is that's what it sounds like. I think you might be right, and there's also things like when I accepted Christ, I was in junior high and there were certain changes in my life that I made because Everyone has those changes in their body.
Speaker 2:in junior high, ken, I was actually a late bloomer.
Speaker 1:I was a junior in high school for those. But anyway, what I listened what am I trying to say About your bloomers? But I listened. What am I trying to say? While I don't Talking about your bloomers? I don't think I listened to a lot of heavy metal music that I felt like led me to bad places in my thought, life and other things. So I quit listening to all um secular music, especially rock, and so I was listening to like only you know wimpy. I'm gonna say wimpy because at the time, back then, it was uh, like christian music.
Speaker 2:It was really bad. Early music was horrible in the 80s. It was really bad.
Speaker 1:Early 80s. This is the early 80s.
Speaker 2:Actually no, it was even worse then.
Speaker 1:This was late 70s, even there was some. I did start listening to Christian rock in the mid-80s and there's some good stuff out there.
Speaker 2:Is it Pantera? Are they the ones that became petra? Is that what you're talking about, petra?
Speaker 1:that's it, yeah, um I did not care for petra um, but I listened to things like the altar boys and one bad pig, uh, steve taylor, crumb becker uh, none of these are ringing a bell for me. Yeah, you weren't in the alternate rock In the in crowd One, bad Pig, was an Austin band. That was really good. You can play these, by the way, on Apple Music or Spotify.
Speaker 2:They're pretty good, says the person that just claimed they all were horrible.
Speaker 1:Well, when I became a Christian, I just stopped listening to it all and it became a law for me and it really actually drove me to Christ. Now, later, once I did not struggle with these things anymore and I had a new group of believer friends, then I could listen to these things without it affecting me.
Speaker 1:so and so my question is is that the kind of thing it's talking about? Or is it talking about just basic right and wrong? Because it wasn't wrong to listen to that other music, but it was wrong for me at that time.
Speaker 2:You are what you eat, right? If garbage in, garbage out, if you listen to people that cuss, all the time'll start cussing I haven't started yet, steve, but you're trying it's funny because your your threshold for cussing is different than my threshold for cussing you know what I my wife says worse yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know what? I know why. This is because I've talked about it with my wife. I think it's because we had kids.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that certainly makes a difference. You learned to control what you blurt out more.
Speaker 1:So you know, I still say I need to go potty. There's no way you would say I need to go potty. No, it's like you just change the whole way you speak. All right, man, we are really struggling.
Speaker 2:Staying on topic, that's okay, because I don't really have anything for 17 through 29, except that it seems to be a lecture to the Jews that insists circumcision is necessary.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, what can we summarize then from this first section?
Speaker 2:Basically, don't point the finger at someone else because you're just as guilty.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's one.
Speaker 2:Is that the only? Thing?
Speaker 1:The second is do good.
Speaker 2:Oh sure you got to aim to do the will of God.
Speaker 1:Okay, and three. I would say that what Christ has put on your heart as being right, that is right.
Speaker 2:You think I don't know. I think we can. No, it says when we do the right, we can confuse ourselves.
Speaker 1:You're right about that. I take that back, but that Jesus will judge our secrets, yep, yep. Okay, let's move on down to the next section, agreed. And this is to the Jews. And it says now you, oh, hold it. Before we do that, he always says first to the Jew and then to the Gentile in that section. He always says first to the Jew and then to the Gentile in that section, and I think it follows Jesus' parable about the wedding feast.
Speaker 1:So Jesus told a parable where this master invited a bunch— or it's a wedding feast or just a feast. I don't remember if it's a wedding or—.
Speaker 1:There's more than one parable, but it's the same sort of message so this, the, the, this rich guy asked a bunch of the people, his friends and everything, to come to this party at his house, and they all have excuses and say I can't come, um. And then he says, okay, then go out through the town and invite everybody, all the lowly, you know anybody who wants to come. And so in that story the Jews are represented by all the people who said no, I'm too busy, I've got other things to do. And the Gentiles are represented by everybody else. So that's why I think it says first to the Jew, then to the Gentile but we're all invited, all right. So here we go. Romans 2, 17, through the end, which is 29. All right.
Speaker 1:Now you, if you call yourself a Jew, if you rely on the law and boast in God, if you know his will and approve of what is superior, because you are instructed by the law, if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth, you then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? You who say that people should not commit adultery. Do you commit adultery you who abhor idols? Do you rob temples? You who boast in the law? Do you dishonor God by breaking the law as it is written? God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.
Speaker 1:Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you have not been circumcised. So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker. A person is not a Jew who is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is circumcision of the heart by the spirit, not by the written, struck me as a little weird.
Speaker 2:If you preach against stealing, do you steal. Preach against committing adultery, do you commit adultery. And then you who abhor idols, do you rob temples. It's like what does that have to do with it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't. I don't think we have any frame of reference there for that one, because we don't really have temples around. I assume, though, that when let's see some silversmith, silver, yeah, silversmith, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because he was making his business, was making little trinkets for the house of Artemis.
Speaker 1:I don't remember, I think it was Artemis. That sounds right. That sounds right, artemis. I don't remember art, I think it was artemis. That sounds right, that sounds right. Um, anyway, um, you know, these are made out of precious things. Sometimes, um, I don't think always, I think sometimes they're just wooden thing, wooden carvings, but a lot of times they're. They are made out of valuable, valuable material. So they could be taking these idols because they're valuable. I don't know, that's, that's the only thing I can think of. But you know, I think there's something steve that it they're hard to apply to us. Um, but um, I mean, maybe, maybe you can. You who, um, maybe you can, and you who abhor sexual content, do you stare too long at Apple news articles with people dressed scantily? I don't know, you know I stopped getting Apple News?
Speaker 2:You did, yeah, I decided it was too expensive. Ah, I didn't use it enough.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't have it because of Apple News, I have it because of other things, that and it's a buy one, get stuff free kind of deal. So, um, anyway, my point is you can put that to other things probably. You know any sin you abhor or are against. Okay, so, steve, do you like greedy people? Particularly, are you greedy?
Speaker 2:Don't think so. Oh darn Okay, Most people.
Speaker 1:Why do you Are you?
Speaker 2:looking for another reason not to like me.
Speaker 1:I don't need more reasons. Okay, let's see, I don't know what to say. Steve, you know we all sin, right? Do you want to share a sin you struggle with, steve.
Speaker 2:Let's see what would be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you definitely have background noise cancellation on, because every now and then when you talk, it's a little like there's a little mute, it's muted yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm amazed you have not heard any of the noise in the background.
Speaker 1:No, I have not. Apparently it's pretty good, but it might need to be adjusted so it's not so strong, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So I have a rule, as you know, where I try not to have more than two drinks in a three-hour period, because if I do that third drink it's well one. I feel like crap because I'm old now and can't handle that much, but it's just it. It adds up quickly and if you do three too quickly, the fourth one's really easy to have okay, so I would say that, as I said, I struggle with okay, so all right.
Speaker 1:So do you abhor people who drink way too much?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think I do.
Speaker 1:Okay, see, then you don't struggle with this at all. Then I would say that you don't fit into this group that he's talking about. I'm also not Jewish, okay, yeah, and there's other things that you're not also, but all right.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, what about the commit adultery one? If you go to the Sermon on the Mount, he who lusts in his heart. I think it was Sermon on the.
Speaker 1:Mount. Yeah, I don't know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 2:Has already committed adultery.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I think people that commit adultery are stupid and I abhor them.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And yet I know that I have had lust.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's a good one. So I actually like people who commit adultery, so I don't struggle with this at all.
Speaker 2:No, that's is that because you also commit adultery and it's easier? I don't understand.
Speaker 1:I it was just a poor attempt at humor. Steve humor ken was a poor attempt at humor. Steve Humor. Ken was a poor attempt at humor, steve. Okay, so what is the point? I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway, I guess the point is he's saying you know, quit acting like you are better than the people around you when you are not Right. And then he talks about, basically, a real Jew. Maybe we are real Jews, steve.
Speaker 2:Maybe you are.
Speaker 1:No, you steve, maybe you are no, um, okay, um, because he says a person is not a jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, no, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the spirit, not by the written code. Such a person's praise is not from other people, but from God.
Speaker 2:Okay in that sense. Yes, we are Jewish, we're adopted.
Speaker 1:We are adopted into the family um by our.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to talk about being circumcised no circumcised of the heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, okay, all right, um, anyway. So we are called to. Really, the summary of both of these sections is we are all sinners and don't judge we shouldn't Because of that. We should not judge others because we are sinners.
Speaker 2:And don't pretend like we're better than other people, which is sort of the same as judging Right right and live right lives.
Speaker 1:Do good, for goodness sake. So it's. You know it's pretty. There's a lot of words here for that. You know it's pretty. There's a lot of words here for that. It's your kindness, lord, that leads us to repentance, that's a song.
Speaker 2:Is that one of those early 80s, late 70s Christian songs? No?
Speaker 1:no. No, that's a let's see. It kind of sounds like it. I'm going to look this up. Okay, it's your kindness that leads us to repentance song.
Speaker 2:We get to the end of the show. Yeah, we are done.
Speaker 1:It's Chris Tomlin. Oh wow, but it is 16 years ago. Wow, I'm old, you are, that's 2009.
Speaker 2:All right, anyway, it's a really good song still, it freaks me out that 2009 was 16 years ago, I know.
Speaker 1:All right. So that's all, steve. You got anything else? Nope, all right. So that's all, steve. You got anything else? Nope, all right. So next week, then, is Romans, chapter three. Make sure you read it, guys. Look forward to spending time with you again. Bye, the Regular. Guys, bible Study is a Chasm LLC production. All rights reserved.
