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The Regular Guys Bible Study podcast -- RGBS -- is a podcast for regular guys by regular guys (not theologians) studying the Bible together. It's brought to you by a couple of goofy guys who just want to study the Bible together and show you that anyone can read and study the Bible. In fact, you SHOULD read and study the Bible yourself. We're here to show you how we do it, and, hopefully, we can have some fun along the way.
The Regular Guys Bible Study
Romans 9
Ken and Steve dive into Romans 9, exploring Paul's profound declaration that he would sacrifice his salvation for his fellow Israelites and the complex theological questions about God's sovereign election.
• Paul expresses his deep sorrow for unbelieving Israel, saying he would be willing to be "cursed and cut off from Christ" for his people's salvation
• Not all physical descendants of Israel are spiritual Israel – God's promises come through the children of promise, not merely physical lineage
• God's choice of Jacob over Esau before their birth demonstrates election based on God's sovereign will, not human works
• The tension between divine sovereignty and human responsibility challenges our understanding of salvation
• We must live as though our choices matter while recognizing God's ultimate control
• The Jews stumbled over the "stumbling stone" (Christ) because they pursued righteousness through works rather than faith
• God works purposefully in our lives like a potter forming clay, even through difficult circumstances
Join us next week for Romans 10!
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Speaker 2:Hey Steve, hey Ken, what you drinking?
Speaker 1:I'm drinking a uh, a beverage. Oh yeah, uh huh it's a beverage. It's a. I've got to get rid of these Oktoberfest. It's long past October, still on Oktoberfest. Listen, paige learned I liked Oktoberfest and she did what a loving wife would do and she goes. Well, look, there's six different kinds and and I don't get a case of each. No, just a six pack of each.
Speaker 2:But the thing is, I don't drink beer that often so the funny thing is, I think you left some of those here I might have left one or two there.
Speaker 1:That's true from a game night? Yeah, there's something in my fridge. Well, steve, I just you know what. I'm in a really good mood and I've been trying to think why am I in such a good mood? And do you know why I'm in such a good mood?
Speaker 2:You had a great BM today.
Speaker 1:I did, but that's not why. Oh, you know what? And I told you this story, um, but I haven't told the audience's story. But are the listeners? They're not an audience, are they? They're listeners, they're podcasters. I don't know what they are podcast audience has audio in the name that's true, but anyway, the um.
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Speaker 1:So I used AI to. The problem was, everything was outdated and the new server, the PHP framework I was using, was old, and so I used AI to upgrade all my stuff and it just it worked, it worked. There was one thing that I had to have AI write me a new function to do something, and it just did it and it worked. And you know what? I'm not going to praise AI, I'm going to praise God, because God is who I asked for help and he said try AI. That's cool, that is really cool. I think it's cool anyway.
Speaker 2:But you're putting people out of a job. That is great, Ken.
Speaker 1:That. No, I didn't hire people to do this. I did it myself, but I just don't remember how.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you're getting dumber. That great, I am getting dumber and it's just forgotten.
Speaker 1:I never knew what I was doing. Anyway, when I did it I just kind of hacked it out. I didn't know what I was doing. Yes, like that exactly like that. All right, well, anyway, I didn't. I just think that's a really cool thing and you know, I got it fixed in less than a day because of that and it would have taken me two weeks. And you know, god sent me in the right path, so that's what I'm saying All right, so what are we doing today, steve?
Speaker 2:We are doing Romans 9.
Speaker 1:Romans, chapter 9. Yes, we are so, guys. If you have not read Romans chapter 9 yet on your own, as always, just pause us now and go read it, and then come back.
Speaker 2:Welcome back. So I'll go ahead and read the first section and then you can read the middle section and I'll read the end section whatever how's that sound?
Speaker 1:how about you read gosh the first two sections?
Speaker 2:first two. That's most of the chapter do you know?
Speaker 1:I read the whole thing last week. Yeah, all right, whatever, if you know, if you're scared to read, I'll read, are you?
Speaker 2:scared, I'll do it All, right, you're the reader in the group. That's a sad state of affairs. All right, ken.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not just me, but Paul, yeah, speaks the truth in christ, oh okay, just so everyone is clear.
Speaker 1:Steve is now reading when he says I, that's chapter nine one.
Speaker 2:I speak the truth in christ. I am not lying. My conscience confirms it through the holy spirit. I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart, for I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship, theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. Do we want to stop and discuss or continue? No, what do you think we can stop? You've?
Speaker 1:already stopped.
Speaker 2:Let talk about it, yeah all right, so he's not lying, or so he says. That's the first thing a liar's gonna say, isn't it?
Speaker 1:so why does he say that right at first? What? What is he talking about when he says I'm not lying? He's talking about having the great sorrow and unceasing anguish in his heart at least I think I yes, and I think it's also goes into the next line, saying, if he could, he would rather sacrifice his himself and have himself his own self separated from Christ, if all the rest of Israel, if all the rest of his people, the Jewish people, could be saved.
Speaker 2:That's a pretty strong statement.
Speaker 1:It is a strong statement, do you? Could you say that same thing, steve? That's a pretty strong statement. That is a strong statement. Could you say that same thing, steve? Could you say okay, you know your family. I'm sure there are people in your family who are believers and saved, and there are probably people who you are pretty sure are not saved.
Speaker 2:This is true Ken or not saved.
Speaker 1:This is true, ken. All right. So would you sacrifice, be willing to sacrifice, your relationship with Christ? So, in other words, you are not saved, but everybody else in your family is saved.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say no, Ken.
Speaker 1:No Ken, no Ken, no Ken.
Speaker 2:No, ken, okay, what about you?
Speaker 1:No way. Maybe I'm going too small when I say my family, though.
Speaker 2:What if you say yeah, okay. What if you said your children?
Speaker 1:You have kids? I do have kids. My kids are believers, so I know. But what if they weren't? I don't know, it's a hypothetical. I do have kids. My kids are are believers, so I know. But what if they weren't? I don't know, it's a hypothetical, I can't answer it.
Speaker 2:All right, let's say Abraham was willing to sacrifice.
Speaker 1:Isaac, we are, yes, all right, I have a son named Isaac as well.
Speaker 2:Well, can you sacrifice him? You know what?
Speaker 1:Uh, I have a Well, can you sacrifice him you?
Speaker 2:know what? I've got a pretty good bonfire.
Speaker 1:I have given him over to the Lord. Yes, but that's not a sacrifice, that's a blessing. Let's make it bigger, okay, so let's say the whole—we live in the United States. I know some of you listening are not in the United States. Steve and I are in the United States. I know some of you listening are not in the United States. Steve and I are in the United States. Would you do that and say if the whole United States of America could be saved?
Speaker 2:you're gonna have to go with.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I just don't have that strong connection to oh, I guess no, I'm sorry to say, but I agree, I would not do it either, and and part of me. Here's the thing jesus, when he approached somebody, he gave them grace before they repented, right, I mean, he showed them grace and he would heal people before they had acknowledged who he is. I don't have that capability. I mean, I see the world and I see the people in my country and I go, oh my gosh, those people don't deserve it. But the truth is, I don't deserve it either.
Speaker 2:They cut me off in traffic.
Speaker 1:I don't care about that. Traffic does not bother me.
Speaker 2:Don't you think Paul is more Christ-like than we are? The fact that he can make this claim? I do. Christ died for the whole world, and then and now and evermore.
Speaker 1:You know, there are many reasons why I think Paul is more Christ-like than we are. That's just one of them. So, yeah, he is a secondary model that we should look to. I mean, our model is Christ himself, but the apostles, for the most part I would call them secondary models, so I don't know if that's a good word for it or not, but that's what I call them.
Speaker 2:I must have read this in the ESV when I was reading it earlier this week, because, yes, Is that where your notes are? No, I'm going to read verse 5 in the ESV. To them belong the patriarchs and from their race. According to the flesh is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. Because my note says it's interesting that he says according to the flesh, and I think he did this to counter the Gnostic teachings that Christ was spirit only counter the Gnostic teachings that Christ was spirit only.
Speaker 1:Ah, that could be. I mean, I know the NIV, which is not always a word-for-word translation, the modern NIV, yeah, it says and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah. I mean it's the same thing. But yeah, the ESV is word for word and it might mean a little.
Speaker 2:the meaning is a little heavier to say in the flesh right yeah, oh you know what that's interesting you know what I think, steve.
Speaker 1:I think we should move on no, I agree, but I think that God does things for us, like in this case. Had you read the ESV on accident, just so, you would have that little little nugget that aha moment.
Speaker 2:Alright, you want me to read this, that little nugget.
Speaker 1:That aha moment? Yeah, all right, you want me to read this.
Speaker 2:Either way.
Speaker 1:You know what Split it?
Speaker 2:I'll read it.
Speaker 1:If I need a tag team, I'll say go.
Speaker 2:If you need a tag team, stop after 18.
Speaker 1:All right, here we go. It is not as though God's word had failed, for not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor, because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children Abraham's children. On the contrary, it is through Isaac that our offspring will be reckoned. In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring, for this was how the promise was stated. At the appointed time, I will return and Sarah will have a son Now.
Speaker 1:Not only that, but Rebekah's children were conceived at the same time by our father, isaac. Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad in order that God's purpose in election might stand, not by works, but by him who calls, she was told, on whom I have compassion. It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy, for Scripture says to Pharaoh I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth. Therefore, god has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. One of you will say to me, then, why does God still blame us For who is able to resist his will? But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Shall, what is formed, say to the one who formed it.
Speaker 1:Why do you make me like this? Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory, even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles, as he says in Hosea? As he says in Hosea, and Isaiah cries out concerning Israel though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved, for the Lord will carry out his sentence on earth with speed and finality. It is just as Isaiah said previously unless the Lord Almighty had left us descendants, we would have become like Sodom and we would have been like Gomorrah.
Speaker 2:Phew, you did it.
Speaker 1:Should have tag-teamed it. I was falling apart there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you fell apart right where I would have picked up I know, I know I should have done it.
Speaker 1:I thought I could do it, but I failed. That's all right, it's okay. I think God still done it.
Speaker 2:I thought I could do it, but I failed. That's all right, it's okay. I think God still loves you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so All right.
Speaker 2:So so my, my summary for six through 15, and maybe even a little more, is that not all Jewish people are children of God, only those that were promised.
Speaker 1:And it's really just God's choice in the end. Yeah, I had a similar but shorter summary God does what he wants.
Speaker 2:That is shorter. So last week we spoke about free choice and predestination, but here he says it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. So is there free choice? God has free choice, Do we?
Speaker 1:When it comes to being saved? I don't think we do, you know. I want to think we have free will, and there are, you know. I think there's other scripture that references and it says things like, anyway, even John 3.16, right, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Now that acts like we have the choice to believe in him. Now paul here is clearly saying that god chose us, correct? Um, in fact, he chose pharaoh, chose Pharaoh, and Pharaoh is not a follower, right, he's not a follower. He's not saved either. He's not a believer. Well, okay, Jesus wasn't around at that time, but he did not worship the God that we worship, the God of Israel. But it says what did he say to Pharaoh?
Speaker 2:It says he hardened his heart.
Speaker 1:No, no, he said where is this? Okay, in verse 16, I mean 17, for Scripture says to Pharaoh this is to Pharaoh I raised you up for this very purpose that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth. So, and also, you're right, he hardened his heart, but that is so, that God's glory could be known right and his power shown.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I feel like a lot of this, and 22 in particular is saying that basically, he's created some of us to be saved and some of us to be thrown into the fire, all so that we may know his glory.
Speaker 1:And so what are we to do with?
Speaker 2:that, Steve. I guess we should be very grateful that we're on the saved side, but it feels unfair.
Speaker 1:What if you don't know if you're saved? Or what if somebody is listening to this right now and is not saved?
Speaker 2:I'm going to guess that they probably are searching, which means God is pulling them towards him.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:This is my meaning, meaning they. They may not be saved at the moment, but they are probably being pulled in, okay, Um, pulled in, Okay.
Speaker 1:And what happens if they decide to accept God's grace and become a follower of Christ?
Speaker 2:Then they'll be saved.
Speaker 1:Okay, does that mean they were called by Christ?
Speaker 2:Yes, okay.
Speaker 1:What if, at the very last minute, they say no, I'm not going to do it, I don't want to do that. Does that mean they weren't called?
Speaker 2:by christ not necessarily not up because they aren't dead yet. Okay, they still have time to change their mind.
Speaker 1:They still have time, yes, but this is the thing if, if we live, we cannot live our lives as though we have no control of our choices. Our life, we must live as though the things we say and do and decisions we make matter and are not controlled by God. And I say that because if we live any other way, then we will live as sorry lives and not the life filled by the Spirit.
Speaker 2:Okay, I guess you're saying we would be living by fate.
Speaker 1:Yes, living by fate instead of living by faith.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess that was supposed to happen. I couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 1:So the thing is, you can say that in two different ways. Right, you can say the way you just said. It means well, god's in control and there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 1:Well, god's in control and there's nothing I can do, or you can look at that the same. That's the same truth, but look at it with a different perspective. God did that for a purpose. God had a purpose for that and I think I've said this before, but I believe really strongly in this. When we go through tough times, god sends us through that tough time on purpose, for a purpose, to make us into who he wants to be. I mean, he mentions the potter right. God makes the pottery, the potter right. God makes the pottery and then he puts it through the fire and that's how it becomes. Before it goes through the fire, it has not been hardened and it will not last, will not stand.
Speaker 2:Some pottery cracks when you put it in the fire.
Speaker 1:That's true. Some pottery cracks in the fire.
Speaker 2:I think you might be a crack pot.
Speaker 1:But, anyway, I think we all have to go through these struggles and we need to look at them as things that God is intentionally putting us through, because God is a sovereign God and he does things on purpose, and I believe he calls us to do these things.
Speaker 2:But I do also think, going back to free choice, that there are a lot of choices made by people that have bad consequences that can impact other people that had no part in that choice.
Speaker 1:True.
Speaker 2:I mean, just look at 9-11, when a bunch of crazy guys took over planes and flew them into buildings.
Speaker 1:Well, look at abortion.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Those kids have no choice.
Speaker 2:I don't know that I have a point here. I just was saying stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, well, so you know he's going through examples here. First of all he's saying all right, you think first of all he's talking to the Jews, saying, look, you think that everybody's just the Jew? God came just for the Israel nation? I guess Is he saying Israel? Or yeah, he's saying Israel, but not everybody's Israel, you yourselves don't even call everybody Israel, israel, and and so then he's saying so you know, I don't know my point.
Speaker 2:That's just things he's he's doing there, um well, I think your point is that he chose one line of uh of descendants. Yeah, yeah, rebecca's children to be the father of the Messiah, which I don't know. I've always had trouble with that. He saw I hated, but I think that line of uh generations or whatever, they ended up becoming um Edom and Edomites later, but they weren't even followers of God at all.
Speaker 1:I don't think. I don't remember that at all, but I did walk through some weeds last weekend and I got into some Edomites. It was horrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the chiggers are out all right anyway uh is there anything else to say here?
Speaker 1:okay, I this. The last thing confuses me in verse 29 sodom, sodom and Gomorrah thing.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've got a note about that too.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's your note?
Speaker 2:Is he saying that without God's help, all of us would have been as bad as those in Sodom and Gomorrah?
Speaker 1:I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2:That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know, I think if you leave people to themselves, yeah, you end up your morality goes in the toilet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you start celebrating immorality.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. Well, let's go on to the very last section here, steve, unless you have more to say up there.
Speaker 2:No, but do you want me to read this? Because you've been reading a lot today and I thought I could maybe read a little bit here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very little bit. Yeah, Read this little thing.
Speaker 2:All right, this is 9, verse 30. To the end, what, then, shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith. But the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith, but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written. See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.
Speaker 1:All right, so you know I've been. I grew up in the church Really.
Speaker 2:You guys didn't have a house.
Speaker 1:That's true. Yeah, we, just I lived under the pews.
Speaker 2:No wonder they called them that.
Speaker 1:I didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 2:That reminds me of something I learned when I was in Ireland. So did you know that if you were rich, you could pay to have your burial in the church, like under the floor? Huh, and supposedly this is where the saying saying the stinking rich came from because they stank. While you're sitting in church, the the smell would come up is that true? I'm gonna have to look that up.
Speaker 1:That's what they told you, though tour guides tell you whatever they want.
Speaker 1:That's true. Okay, I'm gonna have to look that up. That's uh, that's interesting though. All right, so, um, but anyway, I grew up in the church and the whole. You know, a stone that causes people to stumble. I never, you know. It's one of those things that I acted like I understood, but I've never had any understanding at all of what that was, and it wasn't until much later that I had some. No, no, it was before this, but every time I read it it's kind of like I aha, I remember this, but what is the stumbling stone, steve?
Speaker 2:Jesus.
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:I think it is. I don't think so Really.
Speaker 1:See we don't even agree now.
Speaker 2:I think he's saying the Jewish people stumbled over accepting Jesus as the Son of God and that has caused them to fall, Whereas all of us that aren't Israelites have accepted him as the Son of God.
Speaker 1:Okay. So now I question what I believe now about this. Okay, I want to hear it. All right, what I believe is that the see, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble, a rock that makes them fall. This is the law, because the law is what showed them their sin. In fact, paul talks about that right. Without the law, there is no sin. Without somebody saying this is wrong, you cannot sin. Right, and that started with Adam and Eve. God saying, hey, look at all this great stuff. One rule, you got one rule you can't eat from that tree. And they stumbled over the one rule. And so what happens? And it happens in churches today, steve, but people want rules. It makes it feel better that I obeyed the rules. Therefore, god likes me right, rather than.
Speaker 2:I'm better than that person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you could say I'm so much better than that person, but when it comes to grace, that's undeserved, that's different, right? How are you? And so the Israelites got caught up, okay? So remember, we just talked about Abraham. What did Abraham? What was credited to him? His faith, faith. But then the law came and the Jews focused on the law.
Speaker 2:Which verse 31,. I would say kind of agrees with your, your theory. But I feel like the last sentence that's confusing to me. I don't know how maybe maybe I'm reading it wrong, in that I'm conflating when it says and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame. Maybe I'm conflating him with the stone and I shouldn't be, but since it's all one sentence, that's how it reads to me, because the hymn is Jesus.
Speaker 1:I think you can agree with that In the last one, yes, the very last sentence, is Jesus, but is he the rock, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame. This is a quote from Isaiah. He will be a holy place for both Israel and Judah. He will be a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and for the people of Jerusalem he will be a trap and a snare. Many of them will stumble, they will fall and be broken. They will be snared and captured.
Speaker 2:Okay, they will be snared and captured. Okay, I'm looking at the ESV study notes and for 933, it says the stumbling over Christ was prophesied in Isaiah 28.16,. Those who trust in Christ will not experience end-time shame.
Speaker 1:Well, we know that the last sentence is talking about Christ.
Speaker 2:The last hymn we know is Christ, but this is stumbling over Christ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, you know, steve, sometimes I like to think I figured something out.
Speaker 2:Well, hang on. Let me back up and look at the description for 932. Why did Israel fail to achieve right standing with God through the law? They did not pursue obedience to the law and humble trust, but tried to make it a means of establishing their own righteousness. All right, I'll go with that. Sometimes I like to be smart? Well, I think you're you had some very good points. I mean you're wrong overall, but you know it's okay to be wrong all.
Speaker 1:It is okay to be wrong. Maybe you're right and the study notes are wrong. Yeah, I think you know. But the more I read this, I think the more that is correct, but it still comes from the same thing. It comes from their focus on the law that they stumbled over Christ, their focus on the law that they stumbled over Christ. But you know one thing, steve and I pray before we do this podcast is that we won't say anything that's wrong.
Speaker 1:We won't say anything. That's not a truth, and so when you're reading the scripture, sometimes you run into something that you think you understand or you might think it's hard to understand, Like this one is definitely hard to understand when you read it. It's always helpful to talk to a friend, a fellow believer, talk to a pastor. Do some research on your own. I mean, there are plenty of study notes out there. Don't ask AI.
Speaker 2:Don't the inputs it has, I wouldn't trust you, don't know where it's getting its information.
Speaker 1:Ai might be good at writing code. Don't trust it to answer faith questions Anyway.
Speaker 2:At least not yet.
Speaker 1:Not yet. I would say not, don't do it, just don't do it. You know, I have a theory that AI is the beast.
Speaker 2:Oh, and yet you're using it.
Speaker 1:I think it's way down the road. I think it's way down the road.
Speaker 2:You're talking about when they reach general intelligence level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is that what it's called? Gai or something? Yeah artifact, or agi or a agi, I think yeah, anyway agi all right, anyway. That's that's it, guys. Do you have any more to say in that? Um no, yeah, that's a a really simple truth there about you know why did the Jews, or what happened to the Jewish people? And he says they got focused? On the law, and then stumbled over Christ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because they didn't know what to do with Christ, because they were no longer looking for him. They were looking at the rules that they were following and you know. Thank you, God, because I'm a Gentile. I would never make it and I was chosen, so nothing I can do but thank God for that, all right, well, all right. So anything else, steve, before we go?
Speaker 2:you know what chapter 10 is? Uh, relatively short. I will agree to read the entire chapter.
Speaker 1:All right, that's good. I would hope that's true. All right, steve, we'll read the whole next chapter 10. So, all right, guys, read chapter 10, next Romans chapter 10, and we'll see you next week. Thanks, bye, bye, the Regular Guys. Bible Study is a Chasm LLC production. All rights reserved.