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Romans 11

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Ken and Steve dive into Romans 11, exploring God's complex relationship with Israel and the inclusion of Gentiles in His redemptive plan. They wrestle with difficult theological questions while maintaining their approachable "regular guys" perspective.

• Paul explains that God has not rejected the Jewish people, using himself as evidence
• The concept of a "remnant chosen by grace" shows God's continued work among faithful Jews
• The olive tree metaphor illustrates how Gentiles are "grafted in" where unbelieving Jews were "broken off"
• Warning against Gentile arrogance toward Jews, as God can remove the grafted branches too
• Discussion of whether this passage suggests believers can lose salvation
• Paul reveals that Israel's hardening is temporary until "the full number of Gentiles comes in"
• The mystery that "all Israel will be saved" once Gentiles have been brought into God's family
• Understanding that God's gifts and calling to Israel are irrevocable
• Celebrating God's wisdom in His plan to show mercy to all through the doxology

Next week we'll be studying Romans chapter 12. Read it beforehand so you can follow along with our discussion!


Speaker 1:

You are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study Podcast, the Bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your hosts, ken and Steve, and we are just regular guys studying the Bible together not theologians. All righty, Steve. It's time for our weekly podcast, Romans, chapter 11 today.

Speaker 2:

It is. I'm curious why your eyes were so crossed during the intro.

Speaker 1:

I thought that would be funny and you would laugh and laugh and laugh.

Speaker 2:

But it doesn't look that much different than normal.

Speaker 1:

Don't be cross, Steve.

Speaker 2:

Like your eyes.

Speaker 1:

All right. You know, Steve, I've noticed sometimes we're pretty funny and most of the time we're not exactly, and I think this is one of the most of the times um, we're pretty just, it's just dumb, it's just, we're just pretty. You know what Steve?

Speaker 2:

you've got the face. That's perfect for a podcast, because no one sees it All right.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, steve man, uh, I guess I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna. You know what. It's too bad, but I don't know what I'm saying. I can't spite no, you can't what is going on? I must be having a stroke or something, but I can't speak right now, so I'm going to like not even worry about the stupid jibber jabber and we're going to get on in to Romans, chapter 11. It is long, but you know what?

Speaker 2:

I don't think there's that much to say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's uh, it's uh seems a little like single-pointed. There's a narrow focus for this chapter.

Speaker 2:

Uh-oh.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

I just realized I did all my reading in ESV.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, it's a completely different Bible when you read it in IV. Yeah, it's actually All right, I'll read the first section, all right, but hold it before we start. Guys, if you haven't already read romans chapter 11, what should you do? You should pause this sucker right now and then go read romans chapter 11 and then come back. Welcome back, yeah, yeah, okay, and Steve go.

Speaker 2:

Romans 11, verse 1. I ask then did God reject his people? By no means. I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.

Speaker 2:

Don't you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he appealed to God against Israel? Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars. I am the only one left and they are trying to kill me. And what was God's answer to him? I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal. So too, at the present time, there is a remnant chosen by grace, and if by grace, then it cannot be based on works. If it were, grace would no longer be grace. What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly, they did not obtain. They elect among them did, but the others were hardened. As it is written, god gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear to this very day. And David says May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see and their backs be bent forever. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see and their backs be bent forever.

Speaker 1:

All right, Steve, thank you for reading. You know, you actually did that. Okay, except for?

Speaker 2:

one, except for verse seven. Yeah, yeah, it's all right you know what Verse seven didn't flow right.

Speaker 1:

No, it's all right though it makes. When I read, I'm really going to struggle reading. I can't even talk. I can hardly wait. Watermelon, watermelon.

Speaker 2:

Peas and carrots.

Speaker 1:

Peas and carrots, peas and carrots, okay, so anyway, one problem I have with most, if not all, this chapter chapter is Steve, let me ask you this Do you think I'm a Jew?

Speaker 2:

I know there are a lot of inappropriate answers I could give right now, but I'm going to just answer the question straight up no, Okay, I am not a jew by by lineage, right?

Speaker 1:

so, and which?

Speaker 2:

is have.

Speaker 1:

Well, we haven't gotten to the next part yet true, but I'm just gonna say I'm not a jew by lineage lineage. So much of what paul is talking about here is kind of like. Is it relevant to me? No, I think it is because he's really talking to the people of israel, the jewish people of Israel, the Jewish people of Israel saying look um all right, I'm going to stop you right there.

Speaker 2:

I know we haven't gotten there yet, but read verse 13, the first half.

Speaker 1:

I know, okay, I, I am talking to you Gentiles, and as much as I am to the, as much as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, okay, but he does. That's because he does talk to the Gentiles. Much as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, okay, but he does that's because he does talk to the Gentiles in a minute, but right now he's talking to the Jews.

Speaker 2:

By the way, you read that very well. No, I didn't.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, this is going to be. What is wrong with me. I have not, just so you know, I have not been drinking. This is water, this is water, right here.

Speaker 2:

All right, I don't believe you, but that is a really big glass of vodka you're drinking.

Speaker 1:

It's water on the rocks, so All right, Anyway.

Speaker 2:

so you're saying you can't relate.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's not. I've read the Bible enough to know the Jewish history Right, so I can understand it. But I don't think it's written to me. It's written to the Jewish people and it's telling them that, just like long ago when Elijah thought you know, I'm the only one and everybody is gone against you and everybody is gone against you, uh, god said no, I reserved the seven. What a 7,000 that haven't uh strayed from me. Basically is what he says Um and so, just like that, um, I'm doing the same with the Jewish people today. So when I say today, I mean you know, 2000 years000 years ago, I've reserved some, I've hardened the hearts of many of the Jewish people, most of the Jewish people, but many of them I've brought to me. Do you not agree with that summary? It's kind of a summary.

Speaker 2:

I think you're right. I do think this is targeted more to the Jewish people than it is the Gentiles. But I also think there's stuff to get out of it.

Speaker 1:

All right. What can we get out of it, steve?

Speaker 2:

So as I was reading it this morning well earlier in the week I had put verse 6, grace not works and as I read it today I was like it almost sounds like the grace that's reserved for the remnant may be different than the grace given to us Gentiles Right, and I say that because it doesn't seem like there's acknowledgement of the son here and I'm wondering can you have faith in God and yet not acknowledge his son and still receive grace if you're Jewish and part of the room All?

Speaker 1:

right. Well, you know when I read that grace? Do you know how I read it? I read it that chosen by grace. In other words, god chose them. God had the grace to choose them to not have their hearts hardened so that they would see Christ as who he is, much like Paul and the apostles.

Speaker 2:

Right, I mean, that's probably what it's saying. It just struck me as well. It's not saying that outright. I mean, look at Abraham, Abraham had grace because he was faithful.

Speaker 1:

He was counted as righteous.

Speaker 2:

Right Counted as righteous.

Speaker 1:

Because he was faithful.

Speaker 2:

For his faith.

Speaker 1:

Yes. So I think this what he's talking about here is that, because he talks about, god gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear to this very day. That is how God, that is what God did to the majority of the Jewish people and to the others. He did not do that, and so that is a form of grace. It's not the same grace that removes sin. It's not made righteous, but I'm thinking it's saying he showed them grace by choosing them to.

Speaker 2:

And so their ears are open. They can hear the word of god and the good news, and exactly right.

Speaker 1:

For who he is right? And they're already god's chosen people and they already know all the uh, they already want to serve god. So, um, as as god's chosen people, and when they hear and understand, they accept the grace of God through Jesus, which then makes them righteous. All right, do you accept?

Speaker 2:

that. What else did you have? Yeah, I'll accept that.

Speaker 1:

You know, you heard what I said. I had.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right, I did have a point for for verse eight all right that jesus also referred to this in matthew 13, 13 through 15 what does he?

Speaker 1:

what does that say?

Speaker 2:

this is verse eight yeah, go ahead and read verse eight verse eight says god gave them a spirit of stupor eyes that could not see and ears that could not hear, to this very day. And Matthew says this is why I speak to them in parables Though seeing, they do not see, though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so that's not a direct quote, but it's a reference to it.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's interesting. He goes on to quote David and Matthew. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah. Did I say David, I was reading the other one you will be ever hearing but never understanding. You will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become callous. They hardly hear with their ears and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.

Speaker 1:

Yep, all right.

Speaker 2:

So I'll agree with what you said.

Speaker 1:

All, all right. Are you ready to go on or not?

Speaker 2:

what do you think the table is in nine and ten?

Speaker 1:

uh may their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever. The table may their table become a snare and a trap To me. I know, I know what the stumbling block that we read earlier was Jesus, but to me sounds like the law it sounds like the law to me too all right all their extra rules and regulations, all right.

Speaker 1:

So that's what I think it is. I was, you know, when I read that I thought I don't even want to bring that up because this sounds like again, this sounds like the law. But I was definitely wrong on the first reference to the stumbling block. But I think in this case I am right. This is the law. All right, I'm going to go on to the next section, no.

Speaker 2:

I received two left gloves. No, I received two left gloves and, on the one hand, what you're shaking your head yeah, this is gonna be a stupid joke.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead on the.

Speaker 2:

On the one hand it was great, but on the other hand it didn't. It just didn't feel right.

Speaker 1:

Why did you say that? Is that a reference?

Speaker 2:

It was a stupid joke I saw this week.

Speaker 1:

And it just popped into your head right now.

Speaker 2:

Because you said right Okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, Okay, you know what?

Speaker 2:

If you're listening, we thank your calendar.

Speaker 1:

Chris does not listen.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't listen.

Speaker 1:

There's no way. All right, let's read. I'm going to read Romans 11, starting with verse 11 and going through 24. And I will read this very smooth, with no stumbling. Again, I ask did they stumble? That was my little pun.

Speaker 1:

Again, I ask did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all. Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. But if their transgression means riches for the world and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring? I am talking to you, Gentiles, and as much as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy.

Speaker 1:

If the root is holy, so are the branches have been broken off and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root. Do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. Do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do consider this, you do not support the root, but the root supports you. You will say then branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.

Speaker 1:

Granted, but they were broken off because of unbelief. And you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble, For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. And you stand by faith. Otherwise, you also will be cut off, and if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature and, contrary to nature, were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? Okay, First of all, Steve, I don't know what happened there. I was reading just fine and all of a sudden I realized you're like getting up and leaving.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know if you noticed or not, I a a power emergency. My laptop warned me that I was about to shut down, so I had that would have been funny um power supply okay, all right, so this is about um grafting in, and so all right.

Speaker 1:

This is the first time he's really talking to us gentiles. What is he saying to us Gentiles? What?

Speaker 2:

is he saying to us, steve, that we're branches and we're grafted where the Jews were broken off?

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

We can be broken off too, and they can be put back on.

Speaker 1:

That's right, sort of. They can be put back on, that's right, sort of. That was like the emotion you provided there. That was really, it was really good, um. So yeah, basically what he's saying is that, you know, god gave us grace because, well, hold on, let me back up. This is the parable that Jesus spoke of the banquet. This is the same parable. In that parable just so you remember Jesus, I don't know the the master in this case, uh, in the parable it's the master. He invites a bunch of people to a banquet and, um, these, you know, he invites the good, the rich people, his close friends and people and they all have they have all have an excuse.

Speaker 1:

You know, I bought a field and I need to go look at it. And another person said I bought some oxen and I want to see, I want to go try them out, um, and which? And the third one.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember the third one, but let me go bury my father, or something no, that's a different parable actually, I think, uh, maybe it is, but I think it's a different parable. But, um, at any rate, god the master chose these people to come to his party. After they all rejected him, he said he went to his servants and said, all right, go out to the town and invite everybody. You know, whoever wants to come can come to my party.

Speaker 1:

And that's kind of that is the parable of what is happening right now in this letter. You know, the Jews he's saying that are not following Christ have been broken off of the olive tree and the Gentiles who are following Christ have been grafted into the tree. And then he warns the Gentiles who are us don't be arrogant and act like, and don't be like mean to the Jews and act like. You're better, because God chose you, because you know it's not about, it's not about that If you quit walking in in his kindness he calls it the kindness, which I don't consider. I'm not sure what that means, but stop walking in his kindness and you can be broken off too. And it's good if the Jews are grafted back in, and they'll be grafted in quickly when they're grafted in, because they're from the same tree.

Speaker 2:

Does this mean you can lose your salvation?

Speaker 1:

don't go there, steve. I don't know I sure reads that way I, I don't think well, first of all, I don't know, steve, I don't know. The truth is. I just don't think well, first of all. I don't know Steve, I don't know the truth is, I just don't know. I know that theologically speaking. Our church teaches that you cannot lose your salvation. When I read the Bible, I read things that sound like that, and I read things that sound like you can. All that I can do is try to walk with Christ every day.

Speaker 2:

So it's a fair answer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know. What do you think it's a fair answer? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

What do you think? This one's hard because Paul talks as though these Gentiles were already grafted onto the trunk, which makes you think, oh so they were chosen and are saved. It's not that they just think they're saved and really aren't, but part of me wants to think that they weren't ever saved in the first place, if they're acting all boastful and arrogant and not accepting the gift with love and kindness, but using it as a club.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how to answer that. I mean, I just don't know the answer and I know that churches and I know a lot of Christians that would argue with me that that is a theologically important detail. I don't understand why that is such a theologically important detail.

Speaker 2:

I don't either. We should ask somebody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we need a segment on call a clergy phone a preacher. Let's see what can we do to an elder.

Speaker 2:

We could ask the men's pastor and have him study up on it and have him as a guest speaker.

Speaker 1:

The men's pastor. Who's that?

Speaker 2:

At my.

Speaker 1:

Oh, at your location.

Speaker 2:

Location.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

That's Micah something.

Speaker 1:

All right, I'm for that. So I guess you're going to talk to him then.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right, I better make a note.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you better.

Speaker 2:

That would be a Siri. Remind me to call Micah.

Speaker 1:

You're interrupting our podcast to tell Siri, to remind you to talk to Micah. You know what? Actually, there's nothing wrong with that. We forget things all the time.

Speaker 2:

I will not remember if that doesn't show up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I did have another point in this section.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Verse 16 says if the part of the dough offered as first first fruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy. Didn't jesus say something almost the exact opposite of that about um sinners, sinners um um using dough as the or yeast as the reference.

Speaker 1:

I thought no, I thought he. He said you put a little yeast in the dough and it goes to all the dough. All right, maybe I'll try to look that up the dough and it goes to all the dough All right, maybe I'll try to look that up. Let's see. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure that Jesus says something very similar.

Speaker 2:

Kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about 60 pounds of flour and it worked all the way through the dough. All right, so yeah, that agrees. Oh, maybe this is the one I was thinking of. It's referring to the Pharisees. When they went across the lake, the disciples forgot to take bread. Be careful, jesus said to them be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and the Sadducees yeah, because it would spread to everything through the whole day okay so he just used this as something that he used it as a negative.

Speaker 1:

Um just, but it's. It's just used as saying you know, if it goes into something, it spreads. Yep, all right, okay, any more about this section?

Speaker 2:

no, all right, all right. I shall read 25 through 32.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to just read the Eh. Actually, just read 25 through 32.

Speaker 2:

All right, I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited. Israel has experienced a hardening, in part, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way, all Israel will be saved. As it is written, the Deliverer will come from Zion. He will turn godlessness away from Jacob, and this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins. As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake, but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. Just as you, who are at one time disobedient to God, have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God's All right. So for me, this is the section that is most confusing. I agree, all right. So it sounds like God made us sinners. I agree, all right, so it sounds like God made us sinners.

Speaker 1:

Well, we are sinners, but why do you think God made us sinners?

Speaker 2:

Verse 32,. For God has bound everyone over to disobedience, so that he may have mercy on them all well, you can say that the, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Since Adam and Eve sinned, would you say that God bound us to that sin of Adam and Eve, or we are just bound you?

Speaker 2:

Adam and Eve, or we are just bound. See, this is where you get into those deep theological conversations of who God is and what he can and cannot do. Yeah, Like he is all holy and all powerful, but he for him to be holy, he has to punish sin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's one of those things that hurts my head.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah, all right, it hurts my head. Yeah, all right. So the parts that are difficult for me, he says let's see, don't be conceited, okay, okay, okay. Israel has experienced a hardening in part, until the full number of Gentiles has come in. What is the full number?

Speaker 2:

144,000.

Speaker 1:

I hope not, because I hope not too I'm pretty sure there's been more than 144 000. They have come before me, um. So I don't know what that means. Um, I I'm thinking well, I just don't know what that means. Does God have some preset number that this is the number of Gentiles that will be saved?

Speaker 2:

well, he knows everything across all time I'm going to say, yes, he does okay but the second half of that verse, and in this way all Israel will be saved. That part doesn't make sense to me. If Gentiles are being saved, how does that save Israel?

Speaker 1:

he's saying is I have hardened the hearts of most of Israel until this magical full number of Gentiles comes in, and then they will turn to God and be saved. He will, in other words, no longer harden their hearts. Isn't that what that says?

Speaker 2:

28 makes me wonder, because as far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake, but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. So this is going back to the thing where it sounds like they don't have to believe in the Son because they're included just for being of the Jewish name. No, I disagree.

Speaker 1:

I disagree with that. He does say that, um, um, they are still as a people. They are loved by God. I mean individuals as well. They are loved by God, for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. God called them many years ago, so that is still the case.

Speaker 2:

so it means just as he's called us while we were sinners yes, um so, uh.

Speaker 1:

so just as you were one time disobedient to god, have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, so they too have now become disobedient, in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God's mercy to you.

Speaker 2:

That part's confusing to me.

Speaker 1:

It is Okay, I told you this was the most confusing section for me, and I don't even know what to say about it well, every time I read it it sounds a little different. Um, all right, I'm going to read 30 and 31 again. Just as you were at one time disobedient to God, have Okay I cannot read.

Speaker 2:

No, just as you, who were at one time disobedient to God, have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience.

Speaker 1:

So hold it, let's stop there, let's stop there. So that's saying we have received mercy because of the Jews' disobedience right?

Speaker 2:

But we were also disobedient.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but but that, uh, we were one time we yes. Okay, it starts out saying we used to be disobedient, but God has shown us mercy because the Jews were disobedient. Just like the banquet Right. So then read 31.

Speaker 2:

So they too have now become disobedient, in order that they too may now receive mercy. As a result of God's mercy to you. All right of God's mercy to you.

Speaker 1:

All right. So now that they have become disobedient and we are in, we have been accepted and shown mercy by God. Now that gives God the opportunity to show mercy on them.

Speaker 2:

But they were already disobedient.

Speaker 1:

But still.

Speaker 2:

Nobody was perfect follower of the law except.

Speaker 1:

Jesus, but I don't, you know, it's not, I don't think. In some cases it's talking about individuals. In some cases it's talking about people groups, a generality of people groups, that's what. So I read this as people groups, so I read this as people groups, jews and Gentiles, not me and you, but the collective us.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'll go with that, phew. Would you like to read the doxology?

Speaker 1:

Sure, maybe we should. You know what I'm surprised I didn't do this, but I should have asked AI to summarize this thing for me.

Speaker 2:

After you told people don't do this. It could mislead us.

Speaker 1:

It could told people don't do this. It could mislead us, it could.

Speaker 2:

But I will say, if you, I would never suggest uh to just blindly do that, but to get help and then like to see if it makes sense it really surprises me that you would even consider that, since you don't even like watching the show the Chosen because you don't want to see someone else's interpretation of the Bible.

Speaker 1:

No, no, that's not true, and I have started watching the Chosen. The reason I didn't want to watch the Chosen was because when I watch Christian shows, if they change what the Bible says, I hate it. I hate it and I can't get over it. But somebody told me they said no, ken, you got to watch the shows. What they do is they take the actual events of the Bible but they build stories around it. Because, these people.

Speaker 1:

You know, the Bible doesn't contain everything about the people that it talks about, so it creates stories around these people and I find that interesting as long as they don't change what the Bible says.

Speaker 2:

You see what I'm saying. I see what you're saying. Have you found a case where they have?

Speaker 1:

I've only watched like three episodes so far and I just started on season one, so I have not yet.

Speaker 2:

So that's good, that's good. I don't recall a time.

Speaker 1:

So, all right, Well, let me read the 33 through 36. This is called the doxology. It says Amen, amen, and I don't think that we should dissect the doxology. Honestly, I didn't have any notes on it. Okay, it is what it is. You should read it and you know you should read it as a prayer. Just read it For those of you who have a quiet time in the morning, which I highly recommend. Just read it to God and tell him these things. All right, Got anything else, steve?

Speaker 2:

I did have one last thing. Okay, the walls in your room are really boring. You need to hang some stuff up, and if you need some photographs, I'm sure my wife can help you we have so many paintings that need to go up, but what you're mainly seeing is the ceiling now I can see where the wall means the ceiling. There is as much of the wall, as I do the ceiling all right, you're right, there is a big blank wall over there.

Speaker 1:

Um, honestly, let's see, the only thing we have up in this room is a tv oh, I see where your priorities are yeah, yeah, this is where I, that is where I play video games, steve, and it's my office, so you watch TV while you work.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes I do Really Actually, like during the French Open, I'll have the tennis open Tennis on the TV while I'm trying to work, but I have the volume all the way down and many times I I just I'm not watching it, but it's just on anyway. That's enough about my faults and failures.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, steve yeah, we could be here all night.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we could talk about that forever, but anyway, guys, all right, that's it for tonight. Next Next week is Romans, chapter 12. Read it, read it, read it. That's pretty good, steve, that wasn't me, it was so no-transcript.

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