The Regular Guys Bible Study
The Regular Guys Bible Study podcast -- RGBS -- is a podcast for regular guys by regular guys (not theologians) studying the Bible together. It's brought to you by a couple of goofy guys who just want to study the Bible together and show you that anyone can read and study the Bible. In fact, you SHOULD read and study the Bible yourself. We're here to show you how we do it, and, hopefully, we can have some fun along the way.
The Regular Guys Bible Study
Romans 13
Ken and Steve explore Romans 13, examining how Christians should navigate the tension between biblical submission to authorities and faithfulness to God's higher commands. They unpack Paul's teaching about government, debt, love, and spiritual armor through both historical context and personal application.
• Understanding when to submit to authorities and when to prioritize God's commands
• Exploring biblical examples like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego who disobeyed rulers
• Distinguishing between personal disobedience and organized rebellion against authorities
• Examining what it means to "let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love"
• Connecting the "armor of light" with Paul's teaching on the armor of God in Ephesians
• Discussing the contrast between behaviors done in darkness versus living in the light
• Recognizing our need to clothe ourselves with Christ rather than gratify fleshly desires
Read Romans 14 before next week's episode and join us as we continue our journey through Paul's letter to the Romans.
You are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study Podcast, the Bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your hosts, Ken and Steve, and we are just regular guys studying the Bible together.
Speaker 2:Not theologians.
Speaker 1:Nope, not theologians. No, theologian would flash his partner. Hold it, partner. I don't know if I like that word, ken flashed me when the song was playing.
Speaker 2:It was very disturbing it was the top.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm just going swimming, it's not flashing.
Speaker 2:It's not flashing really well, okay yeah, but you acted like you had something to flash. Which you know you sort of do. Okay, if you're into that, and I'm not A man's ear, it's a bro.
Speaker 1:All right, guys. Well, we are on romans, chapter 13 today. Um, I think this one is actually going to be pretty quick. Um, it's, there's not. I mean, you know, there's words and stuff yeah, there's lots of words there's lots. I mean, it's really not that long either, but um you know, I think it's a pretty easy topic. Um I I think there is some room for debate over um the first uh seven verses.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe you could give us a little summary from whence we came in chapter 12.
Speaker 1:That's funny. No, I can't 12?. That was a week ago, Steve.
Speaker 2:It was ago, steve it was, but he was talking about you know. Bless those who persecute you and burning coals on their head by giving them something to drink yeah, that's true. I remember that now and I'm reading it again now but I do think it does flow into this a little bit okay, it talks about your enemy and not, um, you know, don't treat him poorly, but treat him well. I mean what? What era was this in rome? Were they doing the whole?
Speaker 1:burn christians in the oh yeah, I mean, this is, paul is in prison right now in Rome, right.
Speaker 2:I think so yeah, and. I believe he dies soon. So, yeah, this is interesting If you look at it in that context of severe persecution. And then, well, I'll just read this first section and you'll see what I mean.
Speaker 1:All right, well, hold on If you haven't read Romans, chapter 13, please.
Speaker 2:No, I have.
Speaker 1:Not you. I'm talking about the people who I actually care about. If you haven't read Romans chapter 13, pause it now. Go read it. Don't be a lazy bum. Pause it, go read and welcome back, all right.
Speaker 2:All right, chapter 13. Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves, for rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended, for the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them If you owe taxes. Pay taxes If revenue. Thank you.
Speaker 1:That was 13, 1 through 7. And all right, you said you felt like this just fed right 12, fed into here. What?
Speaker 2:do you mean? If you look at it in the context of their persecution, it feels a little weird actually. I mean because they are doing right and they're being burned at the stake or whatever happened back then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if they're being burned yet I don't know.
Speaker 2:I was thinking that was a hundred years later, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 1:I think it was like 70 or 80 or so, right.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's probably about when this is.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know I think it is. This is the time of Nero right.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure. Oh gosh, If only we had a little device we could ask.
Speaker 1:All right. Hold on a second Talk amongst yourselves, all right. So when was nero of the person in rome? Okay, all right. Just why don't you? Let me just quit doing that and, like, talk about what you think?
Speaker 2:I was talking amongst myself.
Speaker 1:Okay, that was very funny, steve.
Speaker 2:Supposedly if you're an extra on a TV show.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they want it to sound like conversation. You're supposed to say peas and carrots to each other.
Speaker 1:Really Peas and carrots peas and carrots. Peas and carrots, peas and carrots, the other really peas and carrots, peas and carrots, peas and carrots.
Speaker 2:The background sound will sound like real speech, because it is well, it's real speech, but it's peas and carrots and stupid um, all right, so um, let's see.
Speaker 1:Let's see. When was nero stupid autocorrect?
Speaker 2:you were so slow at this man, I know it.
Speaker 1:Uh. 30. Let's see emperor of rome.
Speaker 2:54 to 68 oh, okay so yeah, it is the right time frame yeah, and so nero did burn christians um.
Speaker 1:And is he the one who had peter crucified upside down as well?
Speaker 2:no, I have no idea.
Speaker 1:That's not in the bible that is not in the bible, but there are historical records of that I don't know if they're funny.
Speaker 2:Oh, you said historical, not hysterical that's not funny, steve you laughed at it, though, but it's not funny all right, okay.
Speaker 1:So so there is some probably real persecution of the christians going on right now.
Speaker 2:But it's not because they're well, I guess they are disobeying the worship Caesar as God law, if there was one at that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. All right, so do you have any more comments on this?
Speaker 2:any more comments on this. Well, just if I were the one who you know, my brother just got hauled off and burned at the stake and he's telling me to be subjected to the authority. I'd have a lot of trouble with that.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I agree, and that's why do you want to know what I?
Speaker 2:did. Can you guess what I did? You didn't take any notes. I did take notes, oh but, what did you do?
Speaker 1:I. I asked my friend AI, ken, no, this is good. So what I did? And look, I would never ask AI a theological question. By the way, I mean, this is not about theology, this is about reconciling differences in stories, and so, basically, so I like to use Grok. I asked Grok, you know, I told Grok that I'm struggling with Romans 13, one to seven, and talking about the authority of, I mean, how God put everyone in authority and they're good for our good. But then you look at Shadrach, meshach and Abednego, you look at Daniel and you look at even Paul himself, and you know, how do I reconcile what he's saying? And I would like to read what grok responded, because I think it's pretty good. And do you mind if I do that?
Speaker 1:no go ahead, all right, go ahead. And worship the devil ken not worshiping the devil, um, um. And, by the way, I I think you said that because of my belief in what AI is, will be, is that right? Have I told you that Okay?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So another side note, I do think that there's a chance that AI will become the Antichrist of what Revelation speaks of and actually the New Testament speaks of in other places. Anyway, romans 13, 1 to 7 instructs Christians to submit to governing authority, stating they are established by God to maintain order and justice for the good of society. The passage emphasizes that rulers are God's servants, rewarding good and punishing evil, and thus obedience to them aligns with God's will, barring moral conflicts. Romans 13, 1-4. However, the Bible also records instances where godly individuals disobeyed rulers and were commended for it, such as Daniel praying despite the king's decree that's Daniel 6, 10-23,. Shadrach, meshach and Abednego refusing to worship an idol in Daniel 3, 16-18, and the apostles preaching Christ against the Sanhedrin's orders in Acts 5-29. These examples appear to conflict but can be reconciled by examining the broader biblical context. The key lies in the purpose and limits of submission.
Speaker 1:Romans 13 assumes authorities are fulfilling their God-given role to uphold justice and order. When rulers command actions that directly contradict God's moral law, obedience to God takes precedence, as seen in Acts 5.29, where Peter declares we must obey God rather than men. The midwives in Exodus 1.17 disobeyed Pharaoh to save Hebrew babies, and their fear of God was rewarded. Similarly, daniel and his friends prioritized God's commands over human decrees when the two conflicted and God honored their faithfulness. Thus Romans 13 and the examples of righteous disobedience are not contradictory but complementary.
Speaker 1:Submission to authority is a default for order and conscience, but when rulers demand what God forbids or forbid what God commands, believers are justified and often commended for prioritizing God's will. This balance reflects the principle that human authority is delegated by God and not absolute. It must align with his moral order to claim legitimacy. In practice, this means Christians should generally obey laws, pay taxes and respect authorities as part of their witness Romans 13, 6-7. But they must discern when obedience to human rulers violates God's higher law, as exemplified by biblical figures who face persecution yet stood firm. The tension is resolved by recognizing that God's sovereignty supersedes human authority and righteous disobedience is warranted only when the conflict is clear and direct.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm really impressed by.
Speaker 1:That I didn't stumble while reading that too much.
Speaker 2:Well, sort of, I mean it's related.
Speaker 1:It's more that it was incredibly long and it was really thorough and it was really thorough, it was very thorough, um, and that's what. That's why I felt like I had to include it. I read it and not only was it long I mean, it wasn't just long and blah, blah, blah it made really good points, um do you think it steals directly from some pastor's sermon posted online.
Speaker 1:I have no idea, but I think the thing about AI, it probably is a conglomeration of a bunch of different things that people have said, but I was thinking what does this mean? Um, because I, you know, if you look at let's look at daniel okay, daniel, um, the king put out a decree that you could not pray to anyone but the king. Who was the king Was that? Oh that was not Nebuchadnezzar, because that was Shadrach, meshach and Abednego. That was Nebuchadnezzar. Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:But they were all together.
Speaker 1:They were.
Speaker 2:Daniel and Shadrach, meshach and Abednego. Yeah, they all went at the same time.
Speaker 1:Okay, so maybe it was Nebuchadnezzar. At any rate, what Daniel did was prayed to God.
Speaker 2:A lot.
Speaker 1:What he did not do was protest that he should be able to pray he just went ahead and did it he did what he should do and let the governing authority alone the same with shadrach, meshach and abednego. Uh, they were supposed to bow down um and they refused. And they golden statue they just refused to bow down to the statue. They didn't like protest and say we shall not bow, we shall not bow.
Speaker 1:They just didn't do it and I think didn't burn cars and break windows they did not do anything like that, or it's not recorded and it doesn't sound like I guess it would be burning wagons and chariots. Yeah, but my point is I think Christians a lot of times take this to a different level that you don't see in biblical records. When someone disobeys the authority.
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:When they disobey the authority. It is a personal choice that they disobey the authority. It is not trying to make a statement against the authority. Do you see the difference?
Speaker 2:Well, you mentioned Christians in history. I thought you were going to give an example of something Okay.
Speaker 1:for example, let's go with a very dicey subject to some, which is abortion. Let's talk about abortion.
Speaker 2:No pun intended.
Speaker 1:What I don't get that no pun.
Speaker 2:It's a really bad one. You said dicey.
Speaker 1:Dicey.
Speaker 2:Never mind.
Speaker 1:I don't get it, steve. I'm sorry. I think it's either a really bad joke, or I'm stupid or maybe both. No, it's it's a stretch, all right anyway. Um, you know, now I don't like, I don't like, I don't like that topic, the problem I don't need. The problem is, um, you are saving people's lives. You're talking about the murder of children. All right, uh, let me see, um, uh, the certain books in school okay in the school libraries, right so?
Speaker 2:what? What about them?
Speaker 1:so it's one thing to say my kid won't read these books, right, and that's fine, or or some. Okay, actually there's, let's go to classes. There's the classes on the Big Bang Theory or whatever, and parents will just opt out. They can opt their kid out of that class or that section of science class because they don't want that taught to their kid, and that's fine. That's the kind of thing that Daniel did. That's the kind of thing that Daniel did. That's the kind of thing that Shadrach, meshach and Abednego did. They opted out, or they opted in or opted out or said they weren't going to do it Right.
Speaker 2:So the difference in that comparison is the parents were given a choice.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, not always.
Speaker 2:Sometimes they're not always given a choice.
Speaker 1:They say my kid is not going to go to that.
Speaker 2:They keep them at home.
Speaker 1:Now some schools have decided to make it a choice because it's been too controversial, but the very first ones had to say, say no, my kid's not going to that, and you know that. They did not march and say, oh, we can't teach this in schools, we can't teach this in schools. Um, some people have marched on these things, but but I think it's more biblically speaking, I think it's more appropriate that we act and not march. It's a personal action, not a demonstration against the authority.
Speaker 2:I feel like I need to think about that for a minute, but I won't do it here.
Speaker 1:Okay, and you know what, steve, I could change my mind tomorrow. I don't know. This is all fresh thoughts.
Speaker 2:So the part I totally agree with is pray and abide by the Ten Commandments. Keep the Lord, your God, as holy and love him with all your heart.
Speaker 1:If you look at the two examples that I gave Shadrach, meshach and Abednego and Daniel they both were ordered to do something that is direct in in direct conflict with one of the ten commandments yep so yeah, so that might be something there, all right moving on anyway um. It also says you know, pay your taxes. Of course, if you owe money to anybody, pay it to them. I think that's kind of self-explanatory. All right, Since I read the big, long grog thing.
Speaker 2:Actually, before we go there, the last two the respect and the honor.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I know there are. I don't really want to go there, but there are politicians which, just because of their position, we're supposed to respect and honor them. I struggle with that with some politicians because I don't respect them. Who?
Speaker 1:says we're supposed to respect them.
Speaker 2:Don't you owe them respect just from their position, like take a judge, for instance.
Speaker 1:Okay, yes, we have to respect the judge's ruling.
Speaker 2:But I don't like all judges.
Speaker 1:I don't like all their rulings, but if? But what is it to respect someone? I guess there's two definite, there's multiple definitions of respect. So if you were to respect a judge's ruling, it doesn't mean you agree with it, it means that you move forward and obey it. Right, true? So let me see in a different translation, because I did not uh let's see what does new living say about that.
Speaker 1:Let's see what does New Living say about that. No, no, no, no, no. Pay your taxes and government fees to those who collect them and give respect and honor to those who are in authority. Yeah, that kind of says more like what you said respect and honor.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it's hard to do sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is hard to respect those who don't who we don't feel deserve our respect, right.
Speaker 2:Or even a superior at work. Maybe they do things that I don't agree with, even outside of business decisions, or something are you talking about?
Speaker 1:me right now, because you're not my superior but I am superior. Yes, but but we show them respect. We are called to show them respect, right? You would not go to your superior work and say you're an idiot, you're an idiot, right? Um? And to show respect again does not mean you agree with them or you even like them, um, it just means that you recognize their position and their authority over you just in case anyone from work is listening.
Speaker 2:I don't really have this problem, so don't start complaining all day about people in charge of him at work.
Speaker 1:I'm just joking, just joking.
Speaker 2:All right, I will read the next section, since you went off and read the demon's words.
Speaker 1:Okay, go.
Speaker 2:Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments you shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one command Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.
Speaker 1:All right. So I just love Paul's statement here and whatever other command there may be right you name it, it all falls under these it's like does he not know all the commandments?
Speaker 2:but he's right. I mean the, the 10. Well, not all of the ten, some of them are directly for God, but the rest of them are to each other as people, and if you love your neighbor meaning anyone that's not you then you will keep those commandments.
Speaker 1:Yes, and what did Jesus say about the commandments? They're summed up in two things. Number one love the lord your god with all your heart, uh, soul and strength, or something like that. And the second is, like it love. Love your neighbor as yourself.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And Paul is focusing here on the love your neighbor. So he says, let no debt remain outstanding except continued debt to love one another. For whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. So loving others fulfills the law.
Speaker 2:So I think in modern day, just the way things work, some Christians take this to mean you shouldn't even have a home loan or a car loan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think Dave Ramsey talks about that right, he preaches that a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, a little bit. I mean he preaches don't overextend yourself and get rid of all your debts as quickly as possible. I don't think he's saying a home loan is a bad thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's true. I haven't paid much attention. People have talked to me about his stuff before, though, and I think he's okay with home loans. He really hates car loans, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And credit card debt is like all.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's the devil.
Speaker 1:That is just an awful thing and I agree. Um um, as a young guy I got we we can young married couple engineer. We thought we were rich and we immediately went into credit card debt and, uh, god got us out of that.
Speaker 2:So, um, it's too easy to do and too hard to get out of yep, um all right. Well, I mean I guess my point love people. Yes, I'm sorry what well, the point here being that not all debt is evil debt um well credit card debt is evil debt yeah, but this does not say don't ever have debt.
Speaker 1:It says no, let, no, let, let no debt remain outstanding. And the truth is be good to your word yeah, it's when you're paying your, your debt you agreed to, then you are not letting it remain outstanding, right?
Speaker 2:He's basically saying you should have a good credit score.
Speaker 1:You should have a good credit score. You should pay things on time and not try to try to um, you know, skip a month or whatever. Pay your debts and love each other. I find it interesting how he went from debt to love yeah, that seems like a weird jump to me.
Speaker 1:Because he's talking about paying taxes and revenue and respect. And then he says let no debt remain outstanding. So he went from this money. Accept the continuing debt to love one another. Boom and new subject mic drop. All right, uh, last section. You want me to read that, or you?
Speaker 2:it would be nice if you read something that was of the lord.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right? Um, let's see. Grog, could you read this for me? Okay, this is Romans 13,. The rest 11 through the end, 14. And do this understanding the present time. The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is near now, nearer now than when we first believed. The night is nearly over, the day is almost here, so let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the flesh. All right?
Speaker 2:What do you think of that?
Speaker 1:I think it tells us some stuff, so let's see um. So I have a couple of questions I have a couple of thoughts all right. So in uh romans uh. In verse 12 he says uh, he says something the night is nearly over, so let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
Speaker 2:What is the armor of light?
Speaker 1:I don't know exactly but if I were to guess or hypothesize, I would say prayer. Okay, I think he's referring back to a previous letter he wrote to the Ephesians, and you know all we get is letters, right. But he talked all the time, I'm sure, and he preached about probably the same things he wrote in his letter. So let me read Ephesians 6, 14. Well, I'm sorry, 13. And on it says therefore, put on the full armor of God. I would say the armor of God and the armor of light. Can't we equate those? Do you think we can equate those?
Speaker 2:Sure, let's go for it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say they're equal. So, when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground and after you have done everything to stand, stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist. So truth, with the breastplate of righteousness in place. So be righteous, or I guess, never mind, I'm not going to add my commentary and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil. One Take the helmet of salvation and the arrows of the evil. One Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God, and pray in the spirit on all occasions, with all kinds of prayers and requests there.
Speaker 2:You're saying I was right.
Speaker 1:The prayer part yes was definitely right. That's one of the things, yeah, saying I was right. The prayer part, yes was definitely right. That's one of the things, um, yeah.
Speaker 2:Read your Bible too.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:Read your Bible. Yes, Um and practice the gifts of the spirit.
Speaker 1:And and guys, let me just say this we we say all the time you need to read the Bible yourself. I'm glad you're here listening to us, but I hope it's not because this is the only Bible reading you get. You need to read the Bible yourself, the only way. I knew about these references to the shield of faith, these references to the shield of faith Okay, there are reference notes here, but I already knew them and so, um and I'm sure Steve already had heard a bit about these as well- I knew that's where you were going to go when you asked Of course, but the only way we know this is by reading the Bible, and you've got to read the Bible and it helps you understand the rest of the Bible.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that's my little preaching.
Speaker 2:Including the Old Testament.
Speaker 1:Including the Old Testament.
Speaker 2:Yes, Although there are parts that I just don't know why they're there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, and some are really tough reading, but some are amazingly exciting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some good stories yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, so that was my one question what is the armor of light? And I think he's referring back to other things that he's discussed about the armor. And then I have another question what does it mean? And I don't have an answer to this, steve, so you're on the hook here.
Speaker 2:What does?
Speaker 1:it mean to be clothed in Jesus Christ. That's from 14. He says rather clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:I think it still goes back to the verses you read it's the whole armor of God and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:You're right, it's the same thing, dang it. I'm an idiot. I hate it when I'm stupid, which is all the time.
Speaker 2:Ken, don't say that You're not an idiot.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 2:You're just not very smart.
Speaker 1:That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
Speaker 2:We're just kidding. We don't want anyone to take us seriously. We don't Ken, really is smart. I'm really smart, I'm a's a fart he's a fart smeller, I mean smart feller oh boy all right talking about the uh. Our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed I didn't have a question.
Speaker 1:I had some questions there, all right, I didn't and I didn't say we couldn't talk about that okay, what do you think? Of course it is.
Speaker 2:It's like every second that goes by, it's nearer than it was before I kind of think that maybe for him he's like like I'm about to die. It's really, really near for me.
Speaker 1:That could be, and I think you know, and he talks about in other places for those, about those who have already fallen asleep, um and um, he knows that time is coming soon for him, um, that time is coming soon for him, um, and doesn't he even talk about someone who prophesied that about him.
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't remember. Okay, strike that from the records. I don't remember if that's accurate this is just another reference where we're being reminded to be diligent and faithful and be prepared for the end of days.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So the truth is we do not know when that hour is, and even Jesus, when he was here on the earth, said he doesn't know that hour. It is only known by the Father. And so we know that it is soon, and we know that a day is like a thousand years to God. So soon is what? A couple of days. If it's a couple of days, it's now. If it it's now, um, if it's a few days, it's a thousand years from now. So you know, I don't know when that time is, and no one does no one does.
Speaker 1:All right, um, all right. So, steve, let me ask you about 13. It says let us behave decently as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. And what is that? What do you think that? Is that an accurate depiction of nighttime? Uh, nighttime sin, nighttime lifestyle.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know, it's been so long since I've been to 6th Street, but I assume it's still full of this stuff.
Speaker 1:So I was thinking about this, and this is, while night and day really doesn't change me today. When I was a young guy and I would get into trouble or do things I know I shouldn't be doing, it was always in the night with my buddies Buddies at night.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's true.
Speaker 1:I don't really have that kind of buddies, or I actually don't stay awake when it's night.
Speaker 2:I was going to say it's too late Time to go to sleep. Yeah, but yes, I do think, unfortunately, a lot of what he says in this sentence also happens in the daylight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially today. Um, I think, um, but I think, if you're a believer, if he's talking to believers here, they save it for nighttime they save it when they do. I'm not I mean it's we laugh, but I think it's true. I think I was a believer when I was younger and doing bad things at night, because you kind of feel some kind of Hiddenness.
Speaker 2:You feel a little hidden.
Speaker 1:yeah, you feel like you're a little cloaked in darkness.
Speaker 2:You got your little leaf covering your privates.
Speaker 1:What? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:adam and eve in the garden covering up their covering their junk with a leaf uh, okay, yeah, I guess I wasn't.
Speaker 1:I mean, I had clothes on steve.
Speaker 2:That's not what I'm talking about so I was talking about the hidden part oh, I see, and they also hid from.
Speaker 1:They tried to hide from god when he came. That's funny to me.
Speaker 2:Let's hide they probably sat in poison ivy certain night, which wasn't even there the day before I know thanks to them all right.
Speaker 1:Well, that's all there is steve yep chapter 14 is next all right, any other?
Speaker 2:last last comments, steve 14 looks a little longer. You might want to read it more than once before, uh next week.
Speaker 1:all right, yeah, guys, please do Read 14. Mull it over a little bit.
Speaker 2:And we're out of here.
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