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The Regular Guys Bible Study
1 Thessalonians 5
We explore the final chapter of First Thessalonians, examining Paul's teachings on Christ's return and practical instructions for Christian living while awaiting that day.
• Christ will return unexpectedly "like a thief in the night," but believers shouldn't be surprised
• We are "children of light" called to be spiritually awake and sober
• The hope that we will recognize our loved ones in heaven (1 Thess 5:10)
• Christians should respect and financially support those who work hard in ministry
• The importance of building others up and living in peace within the church community
• Paul's call to "rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances"
• How to test prophecies without quenching the Spirit
• Paul's prayer for complete sanctification of "spirit, soul and body"
Join us next week as we begin our study of 2 Thessalonians 1
You are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study Podcast, the Bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your hosts, ken and Steve, and we are just regular guys studying the Bible together not theologians.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 1:Thessalonians yeah, that's yeah. Rock on Thessalonians. Yeah, the on Thessalonians. Yeah, the first Thessalonians, yeah, the first Thessalonians. You know what I would like to be? Would you rather be number one or number two, steve?
Speaker 2:That joke stinks.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have to, all right. So, by the way, I've been looking to replace our our uh uh intro there and our outro you've been talking about it.
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Speaker 1:It does not matter, steve, steve, it does not matter. But if you are musically talented and you know you would like to donate a little jingle, it doesn't have to have words, it can have words, uh, for our intro and outro, you know send it.
Speaker 2:I would be happy to sing it I could sing it.
Speaker 1:I am a singer, you're a swinger. That's not what I said, Steve. I'm a singer, as in the sewing machine.
Speaker 2:Because I think you need to pay attention to First Thessalonians.
Speaker 1:Yep, sexual immorality a big, big problem for them. All right, or at least somewhat of a problem. I don't know if it's a big problem. All right, seems to be a problem. So this is the last chapter of first thessalonians. First test thessalonians, chapter five. Um, if you haven't read it, as always, guys hit the pause button right now. Go read first thessalonians five yourselves and then come back, unpause, and here we are, um, just to go ahead and state it. We have decided we're gonna just keep on keeping on, we're gonna move to second thessalonians next week. So next week will be second Thessalonians, chapter one.
Speaker 2:I think you uh froze, maybe all right, are you ready to get started, steve? I have been born ready okay, I doubt that.
Speaker 1:But okay, that's one thing about humans. We're not born so that we can do anything.
Speaker 2:We're pretty non-functional.
Speaker 1:Yes, we are non-functional when born.
Speaker 2:Whereas animals pop out and they can like walk and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we had these deer being born all over our neighborhood in the spring and it's funny how quick these doe. I mean they just fall out and start walking around. It's like it's like they've been practicing walking in the womb the whole time. It's crazy. All right, boom walkers boom walkers. All right, are you? Uh, you want me to read the first section and you read the last section. Either way, I'll read the first section now. Brothers and sisters about, oh, and by the way, I am reading NIV, is that?
Speaker 2:okay with you, I'm going to switch, cause it's hard to follow along if I'm not in the same.
Speaker 1:All right, here we go Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates, we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
Speaker 1:While people are saying peace and safety, destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness, so this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So, then, let us not be like others who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night, but since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate and the hope of salvation as a helmet, for God did not appoint us to suffer wrath, but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him. Therefore, encourage one another and build each other up, just as, in fact, you are doing All right, well done Ken.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Steve. Can I jump to something that's at the end of that section real quick.
Speaker 2:Sure. We can be flexible. It's the last chapter.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm not very flexible, but I'm going to do it anyway.
Speaker 1:So, you know, my mother is very old and her husband and my father passed away a couple of years ago and, um, she's been struggling with her health and she has told me multiple times that she's ready to go be with with Jesus and part of that she always says I really hope that I get to see carl, her husband, again and that he can give me a big hug, um, which is really I'm kind of getting misty, I just saying that because it's it's really sweet um, and and she said and we talked about this together, even though she's, she has dementia pretty bad, but she can remember the Bible Well, she remembers long-term stuff pretty well, and she said there's nothing in the Bible, though that's, it's not clear if we will get to, you know, if we will recognize and be with others and you know, kind of recognize others in heaven.
Speaker 1:And I read this this week and I called her and talked to her and, because this is the first time I noticed this, but in verse 10, he died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him and to me, that kind of living together with him kind of brings the community that we know.
Speaker 2:It does sound that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I would say that there's an implication there. The togetherness is familiarity.
Speaker 2:Well, and he uses we, which is a plural, instead of a you, which could be plural or singular. So I think, yes, I think we will recognize one another yeah but, so if your mom says there's nothing in the bible?
Speaker 1:no, I and I actually agreed with her until I read this, and so, um, you know, I, I, I used this this week to encourage her, and did it work. It did, it did. She was very thankful for that.
Speaker 2:That's nice.
Speaker 1:That's why I wanted to skip to that, because it was a very personal thing that I got to share with my mom. Cool, all right. So that's all I got for this section, steve, really no, go ahead, though. I'm sure you have more.
Speaker 2:Well, I got to read my notes real quick and make sure I understand what I was thinking at the time.
Speaker 1:I have a note. Thanks for being prepared, Steve.
Speaker 2:For one through four, you don't know it. Which is just sort of a summary. It just basically says, okay, they're aware of Christ's return and they hope in it, and so they will not, or need not, be surprised when he does return, like a thief in the night.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So we're aware and we hope in his return. So we shouldn't be surprised either.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is still coming like a thief in the night, even to us, but we will not be surprised. That is the difference, right? I mean he is coming like a thief in the night. That thief surprises those who are asleep. I think it's interesting in this section how he uses the word asleep when in chapter four, or was it in three?
Speaker 2:It was, they were dead people. Right, they were dead.
Speaker 1:Yes, he used those who are asleep, meaning those believers who have died have died. Now he's using those who are asleep, as in, those who are not paying attention, or those who live, let's say, live in darkness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a little confused by that, confused by that. So I sleep at night and verse 7 says for those who sleep, sleep at night, and I know I can't survive if I don't sleep at night.
Speaker 1:Well, if I don't sleep, it doesn't have to be at night. I will say that I don't quite understand what that is saying.
Speaker 2:Let me see what verse is that that is uh, it's seven for those who sleep sleep at night, but the and those who get drunk get drunk at night see that part I get, even though I don't think that's entirely accurate either, because people that really get drunk they don't care what time it is.
Speaker 1:That's, it could be true. I'm going to look up another translation. I did not read new living this week, and let me, let me read what I'm going to read. Six through eight, um of the new living. I haven't read this, so it's all fresh, so be on your guard what?
Speaker 2:ESB is a little different, but go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, so be on your guard, not asleep like the others. Stay alert and be clear-headed.
Speaker 2:Night is the time when people sleep and drinkers get drunk if he had just left out the people sleep at night part, it would feels like it would be clearer I think what he's saying is it's not a literal night here that we're talking about.
Speaker 1:We're talking about a figurative night. Live your life in the daylight, live in the light. And so people who are living in darkness are either asleep in ignorance and asleep means, I think, ignorant or they're living in sin. So the drunkard, I think, is symbolizing the sinner.
Speaker 2:Agreed. So, and the person who's sleeping at night is just the ignorant, because he's in the darkness, he's living in the darkness but then, if you jump to 10, it says and I'm in esv now who died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we might live with him um.
Speaker 1:So 10 in the nlt says christ died for us so that, whether we are dead or alive, when he returns we can live with him forever so he's flipping the meanings around here that could be. Uh, let me see, say for 10. Excuse me, all right, let's see Our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, might live with him. Yeah, esv is awake or asleep.
Speaker 2:I think he's using awake and asleep in two different ways yeah, I think so um, but just in that one, I think he's using it as ignorance just in that one section, one sentence, uh, verse seven well, if I look at the strong's definition for a sleep, it has a euphemistically to be dead and metaphorically to yield to sloth and sin or to be indifferent to one's salvation, which feels like what he is using it as in the middle in the middle or both.
Speaker 1:he's using both of those definitions here. Yes, and that's confusing.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I had several notes there that we just kind of covered. But if I back up a little to three, it says peace and security. I think niv said peace and safety. Yeah, um, I was wondering this morning as I read this I wonder if that could equate to the one world government run by the antichrist, because supposedly things are going to get all great and good before they get a whole lot worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe I don't know. The point is, though, that people I mean the point is that people just don't want to expect this to come. So, yeah, I don't want to get into Revelation without, since we're not going over those verses, but maybe, Steve, we are going over Revelation in our church. We are going over Revelation in our church, so Steve has really recent good information at the top of his head.
Speaker 2:Good job, steve. That must be why my hair is gone, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Put information there instead All right. All right, what else? What do you have? All right, right? Well, uh, let's see. Um, we talked about I mean, I was going to talk about the thief, um, and how we are not surprised, but it's still a thief and I already talked about that, um, I also. So paul uses a shortened version here of the armor of god that was my other note too um, did you write down where that's from?
Speaker 1:ephesians 6 14 all right, and that's where he goes through the full armor of God. And he uses it now in another letter, but very shortened.
Speaker 2:And differently.
Speaker 1:Oh, is it different.
Speaker 2:Yes, so here we have breastplate of faith and love versus a breastplate of righteousness. Okay, and here we have helmet, helmet, the hope of salvation I thought the helmet was of salvation, was it not? Oh, one was of salvation, the other was hope of salvation so it's pretty. I think that's the same so the righteousness versus faith or love is different yeah, that is.
Speaker 1:That is different um righteousness. Our righteousness is through christ um, who has made us righteous through the shedding of his blood. So, uh, does he have what is the? Uh? Faith is In the other one. Is there faith and love mentioned?
Speaker 2:I'll bring it up.
Speaker 1:Since you already have it up, Steve.
Speaker 2:Stand, therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth and having put on the breastplate of righteousness and as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace, ah, shield, praying at all times in the spirit, with all prayer and supplication to that end, keep alert with perseverance, making supplication for all the saints and also blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah all right.
Speaker 1:So, uh, the shield of faith is what he says in first corinthians, and here he says the breastplate of faith and love.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's all that critical. It doesn't matter it's just comparing this stuff with armor.
Speaker 1:Yes, and what has he stated that they do so well in Thessalonians last week, what do they do really well?
Speaker 2:I don't remember.
Speaker 1:Love each other and others.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're saying the what does? I thought you meant what does the armor do?
Speaker 1:well, I'm sorry no, I'm saying I'm sorry, that's probably on me, I'm not sometimes. Sometimes my words are quicker than, or I don't know what I'm saying. Sometimes I'm thinking stuff and all the words don't come out that are needed for other people to understand me. So what I'm saying is that I think he did want to relate it back to one of the things that he said they're really good at, which is loving others, and so that breastplate of faith and love, which and the breastplate is like the core of your armor- Right.
Speaker 1:So that core is faith and love. So that makes sense to me. And that's all I got for this section, Steve. Well, except for the very last verse and I did not mention this earlier, but I should have. Okay.
Speaker 2:I have something for nine through 11.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:For God has not destined us for wrath but to obtain salvation, so he.
Speaker 1:this is another reference for destination predestination yep, he appointed us for salvation, not wrath. And yes, you're right, it's predestination because it says he appointed us yep okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, you're right, it's predestination, because it says he appointed us. Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, what did you have on?
Speaker 1:I should have just mentioned this, because you know I said that I encouraged my mother through this, and it says, therefore, encourage one another and build each other up, just as, in fact, you are doing, and you did that. And I did that. But that's what we should be doing encouraging each other. And it's talking about who are we encouraging here? We're encouraging other believers, building each other up other believers, building each other up.
Speaker 1:But at the same time, we should be searching for other believers that don't know that they're as we kick them down. No, it's just a joke, just joking, right, don't do that, but you don't encourage them to keep on sinning, or no, do on, keep doing what you're doing, you're great keep on, keeping on all right, we ready to go into the next section we are ready.
Speaker 2:We ask you, brothers, to respect those who labor among you and are over you.
Speaker 1:What, what, what, what, what verse, what version?
Speaker 2:oh, I'm sorry, mes now.
Speaker 1:I can move there if you want. What do you want to read?
Speaker 2:I'll switch. It's fine. I can't handle it.
Speaker 1:No, I can handle it, I just want to know which one I should be looking at.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's all right.
Speaker 2:Okay, now we ask you, brothers and sisters, to acknowledge those who work hard among you, who care for you in the Lord and who admonish you. Hold them in the highest regard and love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. And we urge you, brothers and sisters, warn those who are idle and disruptive. Encourage the disheartened, help the weak, be patient with everyone. Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always strive to do what is good for each other and for everyone else.
Speaker 2:Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the Spirit. Do not treat prophecies with contempt, but test them all. Hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil. May God Himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, the One who calls you as faithful, and he will do it. Brothers and sisters, pray for us. Greet all God's people with a holy kiss. I charge you before the Lord to have this letter read to all brothers and sisters. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Speaker 1:All right, thanks, steve.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:I have a comment about the very first thing here. It says now we ask you, brothers and sisters, to acknowledge those who work hard among you, who care for you in the Lord and who admonish you all right sounds like preachers to me uh, I think it's beyond that, but. But I do have a comment about pastors. So at one church I was um on the what do they call it? The executive management team where we were like a deacon or something well, except we did the crap work.
Speaker 1:I mean it's like the hr work and like um. So like figuring out health benefits, um salaries and all that sort of thing, and you know there are a lot of people and I well, I don't know about a lot. We got pressure from some people in the church that would say we're paying our pastor too much oh yeah, I went through the same stuff and it's and it's like and can't pay him super well, but right, why do I want to make this guy suffer?
Speaker 1:he's working really hard, he's doing a great job. Why would we want our pastors to suffer? And so, um, I do want to encourage people to want desire to treat your pastors well and pay them well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I was in a similar position at my previous church, which was a pretty poor church, and I think the pastor was probably making more than most of the people that attended there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so a lot of people had a problem with what he was making, but he still was, you know, not making a lot of money. He was not rich. No, he was. I wouldn't say on the the, the poor, the line of poor, but he was definitely not rich, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, but I think actually this is mainly talking about um those who work hard in the church. In most churches, 20 percent of the of the congregate, the what do you call them?
Speaker 1:20 percent of the members, or whatever partners, as we call them congregation partners members do almost all the work in the church, right, um, and there's some people that are always, you know, helping out whatever needs to be done. You know, fold all these pamphlets, for, you know, it's like people just go and they just volunteer and, um, it's, I think it's telling us to hold those people in high regard, um, because that's a lot of work, even if it's not hard work, it's time.
Speaker 2:It's time, time is like our most precious resource.
Speaker 1:That is true.
Speaker 2:It is the thing that we are all limited on by some unknown amount, and it gets less and less every day.
Speaker 1:That's true, yeah, hold them in the highest regard and love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. Yeah, and there are people that take food to the elderly. They can't get out and get food and they're always doing that work, so, anyway, yeah, so remember what we asked two episodes ago. Yes, we said. What do they not do well? No, what is lacking in their faith?
Speaker 2:I think I found another one.
Speaker 1:What is it?
Speaker 2:In verse 14, and we urge you, brothers, admonish the idle. Perhaps they have a lot of lazy people.
Speaker 1:And disruptive it could be. They have a group of lazy, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, and perhaps it could be. They have a group of lazy yeah, yeah, okay and perhaps lazy people that were our armchair quarterbacks, criticizing those that are doing all the work yeah, hey, now you're talking close to home.
Speaker 1:Now, all right, what?
Speaker 2:else you have.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see I have something about 15, all right, ah, uh, what? Oh, no, no, no, I have something in 19. Sorry I was wrong, but you know I think nope, I did mention 15. So make sure nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always strive to do what is good for each other and for anyone else, everyone else. I think you know we have an ingrained thing built into us when somebody wrongs us, we want to, we want to wrong them back or pay them back in some way. Um, retribution, retribution, um. But that's not the right way to live.
Speaker 1:Treat. Treat others how you want to be treated, regardless of how they treat you. In fact, that's my advice to newly people who are looking to get married about it doesn't matter what your spouse does, because I've always heard this thing marriage is a 50-50 proposition. It's not a 50-50 proposition. It's not a 50-50 proposition. It's you 100%, and sometimes you're going to fail at that and hopefully the other person is going to pick you up at that time. But you cannot rely. You cannot say, oh, you're not doing your 50%, it's not about if they're going to pull their weight. All you do is pull both of your weight. That's all you need to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my wife was out of town last week.
Speaker 1:Lucky, I mean.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. Well, it makes me realize the things that she does that I just sort of take for granted. But I'm actually a very appreciative of, like she does, the 99.99 of the cooking and and grocery shopping yeah and when she wasn't here it was like the fridge is empty. I got nothing to eat. I have to go to the grocery store Did you know where that was?
Speaker 1:Did you have to look it up?
Speaker 2:I know where the grocery store is. I just don't know where anything is in the grocery store.
Speaker 1:You know, the ATV app is really handy. It'll tell you what aisle and even where, sometimes where on the aisle, like uh, what was I was looking for something.
Speaker 2:I actually asked somebody in the store just yesterday and they pulled up the app and and said oh, it's going to be an app or aisle blah, blah, blah at about a quarter way down yeah, there was one thing that I was looking for and it said it even said up high, because it was uh oh, it's turbinado sugar, and I could not find it.
Speaker 1:It said about here what are turbinado turbinado sugar? I don't know, it's just raw sugar. I don't know. We use it in our coffee Anyway. Snobby coffee people All right. It goes on to say rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ. What does that mean, steve? To rejoice always, pray continually.
Speaker 2:Oh, what does that mean, Steve? To rejoice always, pray continually oh, something I'm not very good at.
Speaker 1:Does it really mean always?
Speaker 2:No, I think that's hyperbole, but I don't think I pray continually enough, which you can't possibly pray all the time, and you can't rejoice all the time. But if you stop just for a second and you think, oh, I should rejoice in this, or I should pray about this, or I should pray and rejoice about this, that's what I think it means yeah, and I think, um, I agree with you, I think you can have a heart that's ready to do those things, um, um, and you can rejoice that.
Speaker 1:That car that almost hit you. You can be really angry, they almost hit you, but you know what? You can also rejoice that they didn't hit you it didn't hit you because yeah, so you know what I say.
Speaker 2:I say rejoice in the lord, always again, I say rejoice rejoice in the lord always and again. Okay, very good ken uh okay, what does it mean to quench the?
Speaker 1:spirit. That was my next note. What does it? Mean, I knew it was so I have to answer or you have to answer yes, you do.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it goes on with the next. The verse is not by itself. First of all, the previous stuff says Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the spirit, do not treat prophecies with contempt, but test them all. Hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil All right. So this is what I think that means Do not quench the spirit. So, in other words, think that means, do not quench the spirit. So, in other words, and then it talks about prophecy do not treat prophecies with contempt, but test them all. So, um, have you ever? Well, I'll just say I've had someone come up to me before at church and say, ken, god is telling me you need to do X, whatever it is. They didn't say X.
Speaker 1:What used to be called Twitter, no no, x is just a word meaning something. They told me. They said that God told me to tell you that you need to do this thing, um, and it was very startling to me, first of all, um that that this person would come up to me and say that now was it something like take a shower or use deodorant?
Speaker 2:I could see where that was the case.
Speaker 1:That was not the case. Um no, this was something serious. That, um, my first thought was that is a bunch of bunk. That's a bunch, I almost said, bible study. So anyway, but no, I did not say that, because if God is really speaking to her, then that would be quenching the spirit. I think that would be quenching the spirit. But it says but test them all. And so now, did I do the rest properly? Did I go home and pray? Or did I go off right then and pray saying God, is this really what you want for me? I don't remember what I did. Honestly, I I think I was probably too immature to handle that properly, but I didn't. I was mature enough not to quench the spirit in that moment. Um so, here.
Speaker 2:When I read this I thought test them all. Referred to compare the prophecy against Scripture.
Speaker 1:I think that could be. I mean, that's one of the ways to test prophecy. But if you know this wasn't anything against Scripture or anything, just anything against scripture or anything, just you know you need to do this, or this person or you need to go, you need to go do this mission trip, you need to go to this place and tell people about Jesus. You know, if somebody says that to you, don't mock them, Don't say no, you're wrong. That's not God telling you, that's you telling you. Instead, allow God to speak to you and seek in your own quiet time what God is saying. That's what I think. In your own quiet time, what God is saying, that's what I think. And you might bring other people, other.
Speaker 2:Christians Get other opinions.
Speaker 1:I would say, not opinions, but bring other Christians into the discussion to ask them to pray as well and figure out if this is actually God speaking or not.
Speaker 2:That's some good wisdom there, Ken.
Speaker 1:Are you making fun of me, Steve?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:You kind of have a smirk on your face right now.
Speaker 2:I have trouble giving compliments, but I'm trying to encourage those. Okay, trying to build you up.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, thank you, steve.
Speaker 2:All right, just as in fact, you are doing that is uh.
Speaker 1:That is the end of my notes for this section, except for one more comment about it.
Speaker 2:Uh, you, you're probably going to talk about the holy kiss.
Speaker 1:No, which.
Speaker 2:I didn't make a note on that because I know we talked about it in Romans. I still don't know what it is. But I do have one more comment.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I did write a note, a funny note, and then I deleted it. And should I say it or not? How about the holy kiss?
Speaker 2:I have no idea what it says, or if it's even funny.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Okay, my version says W-H-O-L-Y, so I think, holy, it sounds like an open mouth, kiss.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's that's just blasphemy right there.
Speaker 2:I think there was something it could be borderline. I apologize for that so no, my, my last comment was in 27. He commands them to share the letter, which is probably why we have this letter today oh, that's true.
Speaker 1:That's a good point. So by sharing, by having the letter, read that they probably made all sorts of copies of this letter to pass it around. That's really cool. Yeah, that's why we have it. Um, my comment about the end is how short the ending is for this letter.
Speaker 2:Um, well, he spent like three chapters on the on the intro yeah, intro and the the ending of this is um.
Speaker 1:I charge you before the lord to have this letter read to all the brothers and sisters. The grace of the lord, jesus christ, be with you.
Speaker 2:That's it, the end I think the ending starts at verse 12 what, what, no, yeah, he's giving them final instructions.
Speaker 1:That's just Just like the heading size. You're reading the heading.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I trust that the people that put those in knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1:Those people are idiots.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think you're acknowledging those who worked hard now. They did work hard on that.
Speaker 1:Um, I don't necessarily agree. I mean, it is the final instruction, but it's not the salutation. The heading says final instructions and yes, those are the final instructions, but I would put on that last paragraph. I actually I would start at 27 and 28 as salutation, actually, maybe just 28. The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Anyway, that's all I got, steve.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to end the episode.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Speaker 1:Yes, may he, I mean may it All right. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Yes, may he, I mean may it All right, guys. So that is it for First Thessalonians. We will start Second Thessalonians next week. Make sure you read the first chapter and we look forward to seeing you again. See ya, bye-bye. Bye-bye, no-transcript.
