SPEAKER_00 0:09

Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Pastor's Corner. And this is a rough start. And the reason why it's a rough start is because we've been trying for about 30 minutes to get this thing recording. We've been pressing buttons on this thing, and all of a sudden, Pastor Rick over here. Laid hands, pressed something. It started recording, and we threw on this headset. So I don't know. We'll see how long this records. We'll see if we can get it to stop recording and we'll see if we can get it uploaded and get it out there to you guys. So if you're listening to this, that means it all worked. Which would be a miracle at this point. But we are here today on the Pastor's Corner. Thank you so much for joining us. And like I said, hopefully this will work. And we can get this out there to you guys so wherever you're listening from. Thank you for joining us today. As you can tell, Pastor Jesse is not with us again. He's driving a bus. He's driving a bus. Literally. Literally, yeah. And we know not 16. Yeah, he's not 16. We know that's how he usually ends the episodes on the podcast here. If you're new to us, you'll figure that out real quickly. But he's he's driving a bus. He's helping out the uh summer kids pro kids program. And he said he'd go into the pool, I think. Um and so he didn't have his swimming trunks on. Um so I guess he was I believe he probably had them in his bag. Yeah, he probably did. He probably did um go out there and do a cannonball or something like that, um, knowing him. But anyways, it is great to have you guys on the podcast with us today. I'm in here with Pastor Rick, Pastor Chris, um, just like last week. Um, and we're gonna seek to um talk today a little bit about why or when uh when basically the topic is when men serve, um, why that's important, um, and and everything in between. And it kind of is out of an overflow um of the brotherhood message. Um, we have a brotherhood uh monthly gathering of all the all the men and boys of our church. Um, and last night Pastor Jesse um spoke um at the at the gathering, and it's kind of out of an overflow of of that um and kind of bringing it to you on the podcast today with Father's Day coming up in about a week and a half. Um, and so it's a really important topic to discuss. And I'm gonna throw it over to Pastor Rick, and he's gonna kind of just give you a little bit of what our pastor talked about last night, and then we're gonna seek to uh talk about that today. Um, and so wherever you are, whoever you are, um, we're looking forward to what God um is gonna do today with the podcast episode.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

All right, yeah, last night our men's meeting, yeah, I had a lot of bend there, and Pastor Jesse just decided to uh something had laid heavily on his heart about talking to the men, about being servants, stepping up into their role that God called them to, and kind of shared out of uh 2 Timothy where if you don't know about Timothy, Timothy's Timothy's kind of Paul's protege. He was his son in the ministry. And when Paul ran into him, he realized there was something special about him that God had his hand on him. So Paul took him under his wing, took him on mission trips and assigned him to pastoring to church and uh kind of taught him the ropes and shared with Timothy about being a man and being a leader. And uh so that's kind of where Pastor Jesse went last night, encouraging the men to not be lazy, letting other people do it, uh stepping up into our God-given role. And so that's kind of the direction we're gonna go today. We're gonna feed off of that and uh continue to talk about uh men being leaders in the local church.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

That's kind of like we know you'd already talked about uh last week as far as having somebody to show you how to do something in it, and it helps just uh, you know, a lot of kids here at the church doesn't have a uh a father at home or a fatherly figure there. So not just talk about uh serving and being leaders of our own home, but also we're we're we're an influence for for the younger generation coming up now.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

So yeah, and it's so important. Um and and today, uh listen, I uh I'm 26 years old, but I um I've been a part of the church all my life. Um I'm a pastor's kid. Um my dad was a youth pastor for several years, and he started um pastoring um in a lead role um the same year that I was born. And so I've been in the church all my life, been a part of a couple of different um congregations and and churches, but uh I I have seen the importance of what we're talking about today, um, just in my own life, in my family's life, and in the life of the church and and the churches that we've been a part of, um, where it is vital, it is key, it is so important um that men are serving, because the reality is this, I I can sit here today on the podcast, and if this was a solo episode um where I was doing it by myself, I could, I really could get into a couple different stories of different men who as I'm thinking just about this topic that we're talking about today, I can just think of um over the course of my life and my journey of these men who've played a big role in me. Um these men who um have been just great role models, great examples, great people to imitate, um, and the people who've really served the church well and um are people who don't want credit or don't want the glory for themselves, um, but um they they're they're vessels that the Lord uses in in mighty ways. And um on contrary to that, I guess kind of kind of playing an advocate to that, um, although I can think of examples, although um it is so important. Um, the reality is that a lot of the people who serve in the church are women. Um a lot of and that's that's not thank the Lord for them. Yeah, thank the Lord that's not bad whatsoever. Um, but if I just look back over the course of the churches that I've been a part of, um I I don't want even I don't really want to put a percentage on it. Um, but as far as the servants, um, the people who you just you just think and the first people that come to your mind, um uh a lot of them are a lot of them are um late the ladies of of our of the church um and who who do an incredible job, who who lead in so many capacities and and make the church function week in and week out. Um, but it's time for the men to step up and serve. And I know that's what Pastor Jesse was talking about last night, um, to stop being lazy, to stop letting other people um do it. But um the biblical mandate of of stepping up, of serving, of leading um as a man. Um, and so this is a kind of kind of just an episode where we just want to challenge all the men out there. Um, if you're not serving, if you're not playing your part and doing your role, but if you are just as some encouragement to keep going. So I know um Rick's got uh a text he wants to bring out, so I'm gonna let him do that.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah, I was gonna uh continue in the vein of Timothy. Pastor Jesse, it was a second Timothy when he was talking last night. And I want to go back in the in the same setting. He was focusing on verses pretty much three through seven, uh, where Paul recognized the gifts that God had given Timothy and took him under his wing at that point and became Timothy became his apprentice and uh followed Paul and learned the ropes, if you want to say, about ministry, and he turned it over to him. But if we get over to chapter two, this is what Paul said in 2 Timothy. He said, You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus, and the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. So what Paul was telling Timothy there, Timothy, I poured my life into you, and you have been around a lot of godly men, a lot of godly figures, and now it's time for you to teach other men what you have been taught.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

So that they can teach other men. And the epidemic, and I want to call it an epidemic that we've had in the church for a long time, is men they'll commit to everything but the church.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Uh they'll they'll commit to hobbies, they'll commit to work, and they'll they'll sacrifice themselves and do a lot of stuff. But there's something it's got to be spiritual warfare. When it comes to church, men think that that's a woman's job. I don't want to say it that way in a negative way, but the ladies are doing more of the teaching, more of the leading, more of the volunteering, and more of the service, and men just let it happen. Yeah. Well, if we go all the way back in the book of Genesis, God's always laid the responsibility of leadership on the shoulders of men. He gave it to Adam, and He's never taken it away from men. And we can see that throughout Scripture. And uh even in the early church in Acts chapter 6, um, the church was growing. It needed more men, and uh we find there that they said the apostles got together and said, Find men who can serve in this position.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Uh godly men, men of holy full of the Holy Spirit and faithful, and they chose uh men. Jesus chose twelve men as apostles, and that just goes over and over and over again to theme in scripture, and uh all through the Bible, even to the very end. So that role that has been put on men to be leaders has never stopped. But men have failed to rise up to their uh God-given position as leaders. And we have to have men to do that because the church cannot, God's not going to rewrite the Bible so that men don't have to serve. He has one standard, and that's for men to step up, to be leaders, to be committed, to be faithful, to be dependable, and to um fulfill that godly role of leadership. And what Paul was sharing with Timothy, Timothy, don't just serve yourself to death. Teach what you've been taught to other men so that they could rise up and serve in the church and be faithful to their calling. And so everything we're gonna try to share here today is not to bash men, but to uh sometimes men have to be taught hard to. That's the only way we respond. And so we we have to realize that we've got a role. So all the things that we're gonna say today is to encourage men, but also to uh kind of in a in a straightforward way. Men, we've got to rise up and be the men that God's called us to be, and not let uh not let our positions be taken by someone else just because we want to devote our time to other things besides the church.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

You know, the uh Pastor Jesse talked about uh you know, he always talks about you know love is an action word. But serving's uh is is more than just words. A lot of people are saying, you know, uh they think they serving. They might do something once a year and think it's uh, you know, yeah, the block party's great we got here and we're so thankful for all the ones that come out with the block party, but there's still uh stuff going on 364 more days, yes. Of the year as far as things and uh, you know, thankful to have the man that does uh you know, uh h you know do the things they do already. But but the uh but the verse I I I had and obviously everybody knows this is uh Proverbs twenty two, six says, Train up a child and away he should go, and when he's old he will not depart from it. Well, the uh no, we can we can tell them all we want to do, but but but they're gonna they're gonna get more out of what they see us do. And how we and how we lead and how we treat others and how we serve it uh than they will just tell them something. Uh you know, if we talk about it and never do anything and they never see us do anything, then uh and it the child or your family knows that if it's not important to them, to you, it's not important to uh it won't be important to them as well. And yeah, you know, and uh the other thing I thought about too is that uh that you have to uh uh no love to action word and serve as an action word, but you need to give them something to model. Are you modeling good behavior, or you're modeling good work ethnic with your child, with your family, and uh you know, a a woman wants to follow a man who's gonna lead, and if the man's not leading, and part of leading us is uh you know, taking care of your family and showing, you know, being the spiritual leader of your home and showing them how to serve.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Chris, I'm glad you mentioned that because I'm about to say something that might get me in trouble, but we might as well we might as well do it. I'm glad you set me up perfect. You like you're throwing the alley oop, right? It's the NBA finals going on right now. That doesn't matter, but you're throwing me the alley oop, and I'm gonna try to dunk it home right here. Um this is what this is what I've seen. Um, this is what it been a part of church my like I said all my life. Um this is what I have seen just personally, and so I'm gonna share it, speak it from uh from experience. But when men are not serving the church the way that they should, it directly correlates to men not serving their families like they should. And so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. He went there. I sure did, and there we go. That's right. Um, but I I have seen it just so often. Um the men who are who are and and listen, it it's important that that you're here at church. It's important, you know, that that you come to the services and gatherings and and and everything that we have going on, yes, but you're made for more than that. You're made for more in a church, um, you know, as men than just to fill a seat. And what I've seen is just just a spirit of complacency um over men. Um men thinking, well, as you know, I'm I'm there Sunday morning one time a week, I'm at church 10 o'clock, um, you know, got my family there. And and then and that's to the extent um and we think we're leading our families just by being there and just by showing up. Um but but listen, if if the men are not serving the church the way that they should and serving the church well, um it I I just I just because I've seen it from experience, I just find it hard to believe um that they're serving their families, that they're serving their homes, that they're serving their spouses and their and their children the way that they um are called to and should as well, being the the spiritual leader, um the head of the home, if you will. Um and so uh yeah, I've probably just got myself in trouble. I don't know if people are listening. I don't even know if it's put I don't even we don't even know if this episode is gonna get out there, and it might be for the best. Uh but um that's just kind of kind of what I've seen. What about you, Rick?

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Yeah, I've witnessed that also. And uh God wants to do so much through the church, but uh we hold it back by not doing what God's called us to do. Now, I I know we have some ladies that listen to this. This this message for men, we're not bashing you. I'm telling you right now, and Jesse said this last night, if it wasn't for women, the church would not survive. That's exactly right. And that shouldn't be their responsibility. They've got plenty of places to serve, and there's a place for them to serve and everything else. But what he meant by that statement is they're having to do what God's called them to do, plus what the men are not doing.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Because there's a role for everybody within the church, and men are the ones who who don't mind uh ponding that off to somebody else and not doing it. And I I agree with Bryson exactly what he said. Uh being in church my whole life, and uh I've seen where men think they're important just by being there. They're not accountable for anything. They're not most are not the church is not depending on them. If they come or not, the church carries on. Men should be in such a way to where if for some reason you're not there, the church suffers. Yeah. Because you're so the church is so dependent on your servant and your attitude and your not just your presence, but what you do in the church that the church should miss you the moment that you're not there. And uh just coming on Sundays and being in church, that's the bare minimum. That's where you start, but you don't stop there. Uh you find out your giftedness and uh find out how God has gifted you. Grow and just like uh Timothy said, what you've learned, it's time to put it into practice. Yeah and share with other men how to serve. But we learn by example, and I believe the reason most men don't serve in church is because the examples around them are men who are not serving. So they think they're doing what uh what they need to be doing because they their examples are not good. But we need to be setting an example for a future generation that this is what men do, this is what men do in the church, this is how we serve and give ourselves for the church. We're on the front lines of the battle and are not just sitting in the crowd. And so we've got to get out of the grandstands, get in the heat of the battle, and realize this this church is gonna grow and go forward because of me. That's right and men like men.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

And I don't know, uh, I know Pastor Jesse mentioned it Sunday. I can't remember if it was Sunday morning or Sunday night, but he talked about, you know, growing up, right? Um, growing up in the faith. Um, and the reality is and why this is a topic today, why we are so passionate about it, um, is because we got a lot of men who are still um drinking out of a baby bottle, if you will. Yeah. Right? Got a lot of men who, you know, you may have a relationship with the Lord, but you just you've never grown. Uh, you've never, you know, you've never matured in in your walk with with your walk with him. And one of the things I'm so passionate about, I preach to our students, um, I I pre I try to preach to myself daily is that listen, I don't want to just grow old, I want to grow up. Um, you know, we're all growing older by the day, but that doesn't mean we're growing up by the day. And so um, yeah, we need we need some men to step up and and to grow up, not just grow, grow old. And when we grow up, um man, we it's not it's not that that we'll we will serve and we will get plugged in and we will be connected and we will lead, but we'll have a desire for those things. We'll have a desire to lead and to serve and to be um just to just to have a part and have a role in ultimately the grand scheme of things, what the Lord is doing um at our churches, what the Lord is doing um in our communities, and and just having having a having a place where we can serve and we can we can do our part. Chris?

SPEAKER_02 17:48

Yeah, well, you know, I I don't want to like I said we talked about you know we don't we don't want to feel like the the men we're we're bashing them because uh because there's a lot of things that go on at this church that that behind the scenes that that people don't see that that men's taking care of. I mean I just you know I I don't want to just start just throwing names out there, but there's there's a lot of people that you don't that that's here a lot throughout the week, but but there's just something about I could just think back when I was a kid, my dad showed me how to build something and sort of you know, and or or doing this with me and teaching me something. And that works the same way with with having that spiritual role model or somebody to look up to in the ministry as well. And uh uh, you know, like I said earlier, some of these kids don't have a f uh a male figure around. And uh you know, and it's it it's the same way here at our churches, like it is at other churches that the uh but it's you know, a for a little boy, I'm just thinking from the boy side of it. They uh you know, they say a boy, the mom's his first love but uh the boy watches the dad and Bryson is being a, you know, you got a young son coming up and and and they uh and the girls do too, but for you know, I think we we failed numerous generations on teaching or teaching our our boys how to be leaders and and their role that they that they're gonna be growing into. And it and it's it's it's I can just think back over the years myself of the man in my life who's who's poured into me because I said because I didn't go to no, my f my family didn't go to church when I was younger, not not regularly. And uh, you know, until I was you know uh 11, 12 years old, I I really didn't have a relationship with a man biblically that was pouring into me, trying to teach me God's word and yeah and uh godly example to show me as far as the right from wrong. And a lot of that is I said it's not even words. And just watching them do it, just watching somebody do something, you know, uh you know, whether I guess things we could work on now. Maybe you're going on visitations, some visiting somebody in the hospital, maybe take a child, you know, take your child with them, let them see that. But uh the things like we're taking the youth as far on the mission trips and letting them send them and we to know things we do with the children, or trying to get them to serve, teaching them, hey, it's not about you being served all the time. You need to serve too. God's called all of us to have a role in some type of serving.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

I I can jump. Yeah, okay. You go ahead. You go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

I got I got to interrupt there. Yeah, I got some thoughts, but you go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yeah, I was gonna feed on what Chris talked about. Um of course he's coming from a man modeling for children, uh, which is what we need to be doing. I'm I'm gonna jump back into the verse that I brought up. Paul talked about older men mentoring younger men. And I think that is the gap that we have in the church. Yes, we still got the children, we still got a possibility with your youth and children. But when somebody reaches a certain age, they become a young man. They need a man to take them. Paul took Timothy. As busy as Paul was, he took Timothy by the hand, he said, Son, come with me because I'm gonna teach you what I know and God's gonna use you in a great way. Timothy wasn't necessarily a little kid, he was a young man. And so the problem in the church today, and and I know why this happens, you cannot mo you cannot model for somebody you've never learned yourself. And we don't have enough men who are confident in ourselves spiritually to go to someone several years younger than them and say, you know, I see God, I see God doing something great in your life. Come come walk with me, come learn this this road, this Christian life, and I'm gonna show you how to serve and how to be a man and how to be a godly man. And this is what Paul done with young Timothy. So we need a lot, and if you go back to Titus, that's what Titus teaches. The older women teach to younger women, the older men teach to younger men, and we miss that. And when you have a generation that was not mentored by the older generation, that younger generation has to start from scratch. They have nothing to build on. But we just have to realize that even if we know how or we don't know how, we just need to build relationships with men younger than us and uh help them through the challenges and changes of life and model for them at what a godly Christian man looks like and how it gets. His life with a church.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Yeah, something listen, in this conversation, something's gotta change, something's gotta happen. Because if it doesn't, somebody's gonna be doing a podcast 40 years from now saying the exact same stuff. Because if the men today are not leading and pouring into mentoring, um then these young men that we're talking about, these young men that are kind of coming out of our student ministry, young adults, these young men who are single and working and getting married and having children, like the cycle is just gonna keep repeating itself unless something happens, unless something change, changes, unless some men step up and and I I don't know what it is. I I do think it it's I think Rick, you hit the hit you hit it right there. Um so true um about men are just not confident um about their their walk and their their their spiritual journey. I think I think what it comes down to is um there's there's a lot of men who think you know they don't, you know, that like you said, the confidence thing, they don't they don't have anything to offer um or they don't have anything they can they could teach, even though deep down they they they really do. Um I think it's I think that the laziness aspect kind of comes into it as well. Um I th I think there's a lot of different things that that play into why men just aren't stepping up and and and why men aren't taking people under their wing. Um but it's it's it's not just something that like it's it's like we're here on the podcast today and we're saying, oh, it'd be a good thing if men um you know took took up took some younger guys under their wing. Nah, this is biblical. Like this is stuff in scripture. Like this, this, and this is like a proven formula that worked. Like it's not like, yeah, we see some stuff in scripture. It didn't really work, it didn't really work out too well, though. Nah, nah, like this stuff, like it actually matters. And so, and it's something you can probably tell I'm a little passionate about, kind of pride myself on, um, you know, specifically kind of within our youth ministry and and doing the best that I can to disciple and help um, especially the guys and and and the men, uh, the young men that are um just forming and the young men who are who are just growing up um within our church that I get the chance to lead. But this is biblical, um, and this is stuff that um we're talking about today. Like I said, we're not bashing, um we're we're just really simply challenging um to for men to step up, for men to grow up, for men to lead. And scripture just speaks about this. I mean, Rick has mentioned one example, but we could be here a long, long time today, and we're and we're not gonna be. We told ourselves we're not gonna, we hit 40 minutes last week, just the three of us. We told ourselves we're not gonna do that today. But just want just wanna I I mean, this this cannot be overstated enough, just how important this is. When men serve, when men step up, everything else flows from that, under that, out of that. So important. Chris, you got to do that.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

We're speaking to we're speaking to ourselves too. I mean, it's not something that we're that we're uh talking about. I mean, this is you know something that that we have to be mindful on what we're doing and making sure we're being you know, we're not just having wasted action, that we're not just so b busy doing stuff and you know, calling it serving, but no, but but really not be serving.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

If that makes any sense. But makes makes pretty good sense in my head anyway.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

But but anyway, but but now uh you know, I I we have a lot of great things we that we do here. I was just thinking sitting here thinking about the the things uh w with the men's the brotherhood men's boy hunting hunt day, and they're talking about doing doing a I think I've heard them talk about doing a fishing day where they're taking the boys out and stuff like that. And then we have of course brotherhood that happened last night. But the uh but but a lot of it's just just being around building anything we do, whether it's ministry, whether it's your home life, anything, business, your job, is building relationships and and I think that's the the biggest step as far as if we're talking about leading the future men and be and and and leading the the younger men and the boys is building relationships with somebody because you're never gonna get that door opened up to you with somebody if uh you never go out and talk with anybody. I mean some people come in and and uh you know they go straight to their seat, they don't socialize, they don't meet anybody, they don't come to anything other than Sunday morning, so you so you really have a small circle on who you could mentor and who you could lead. And and truth of the matter is is you might be trying to serve and trying to teach, but you're gonna learn things too. I mean, I learn things daily, and whenever you shut yourself down from learning, you know, I I I learn things from the children. Some of these children is just amaze me. And of course, they, you know, not sad to say it's a great thing, but a lot of them's coming from godly homes where you know their parents and you know they're there doing Bible study with them, you know they're pouring into them, and and uh but but you know we got to be present and you know uh one day a week is worth it's not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

Yeah. I just kind of kind of I know we gotta bring this thing to a close and we can just hound and pound and keep on talking about me and being service and everything else, but uh I just wanna uh just encourage men to uh you know, we teach our kids and our young people to have a good work ethic. But at the end of the day, what have we done if we haven't taught them anything spiritual? They may go out and get a job, work themselves to death. Good, but they're missing the main point of life. And uh teach them also how to use that effort and s and serve the church. Because one day our physical labor is not gonna mean anything. The Bible's clear about that. But what we do for the Lord is gonna follow us until eternity. So uh if men do not turn around and start serving, we're not gonna have any treasures whatsoever waiting for us in heaven. Because God's not gonna say how hard did you work, how many years did you work? He's not gonna ask you all these questions. This life is really terrible when you think about it. It's almost meaningless. Everything that man built one day is gonna disappear and go away and and not be even considered. But what we do for the Lord is like putting money into a checking account that we're gonna benefit for all eternity. And that's the things that we're sending ahead. And what better way can you store up treasures in heaven than building a generation coming up behind us so that we have done something that's gonna outlast us, something that's gonna carry on when we're out of the picture and don't have anything else? Paul's out of the picture, but guess who left he left behind? He left Timothy and countless other men that he trained, motivated, served, walked with them, and showed them how to minister and how to preach and how to plant churches and everything else. And when Paul was out of the picture, these men were still going. So what are we leaving behind? What are we building into that when we're going to we're going to still have people behind because of us that are carrying on what where we left off?

unknown 29:04

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Yeah, if I could leave um leave you guys listening, um, everyone on the podcast again, thank you so much for joining us. Um, you know, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 11, imitate me just as I also imitate Christ. Imitate me just as I also imitate Christ. And I wonder how many people could honestly say that with 100% conviction. Imitate me just as I also imitate Christ. And so the question that I would have that I would raise just to ponder on, just to think about, just to pray through, is this. This is one this is one I ask myself, um, I ask myself often as well, is if somebody imitated my life, would they look more like Christ or less? If somebody watched me, followed me, and and and did as I did, said what I said, would they look more like Jesus? Would they be pushed more towards the cross, or would they look less and be pushed away from the cross or or an indifference or just the same? And so I I I know, I know I fail, I know I mess up, but I want to be somebody where where people can imitate and their their imitation is uh allows them and leaves them looking more like Jesus. And Paul was confident, he he knew he followed Jesus, and he knew he was a a good example. He wasn't boastful about it, but he knew. Um and he's saying here, imitate me. And when you imitate me, I understand, listen, I'm I'm imitating Christ, I'm imitating somebody greater than me. And so that's what I would just leave leave you guys with today on on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Any closing thoughts, Chris? I just did mine, but I said, but uh just a second ago. But uh but um you know, but we we we we we love our man to serve. We like I said we didn't want you we don't want you to think we're bashing, but like but you know, but God gave us a new day today and he'll give us he'll give us another one in the morning, and we can you can we all can start right now doing a better job of of uh leading and serving.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

Yeah, and listen, I I just men and women, I yeah, I just want to say this. I would not be where I am today and who I am today without men um in my life who have paved the way, set a good example, took me under their wing, encouraged me, um, even men that I saw from a distance doing great things um for the Lord that that challenged me through through what they did. And so I listen, I'm grateful today for the men and the women who uh who serve, who step up, who say, you know what, if nobody else will do it, I'll do it. Um, who are not lazy and who are willing to invest into the next generation, willing to invest into something greater than themselves. All right, Rico, 16. We got to finish this thing. I don't know how we're gonna do it, but a 16-year-old school bus driver, past Jesse driving a school bus today, not 16, um, but he's driving a bus. Um, so I don't know. Well, how are we gonna finish this? How are we gonna finish this thing today? He always says 1982, 16-year-old bus driver. How would he serve in the church? How would he serve? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe this will just we'll keep we'll keep people on the edge of their seats. Maybe next week.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Well, he's driving a school bus as far as so he's just that's serving. He's taking a bunch of kids to swimming.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

So that's he's serving. He might not be on the podcast today, but he is he's serving and doing the Lord's work. But again, thank you for joining us today. Um, hopefully you are hearing this and hopefully this works and we can get this uploaded and out there. And um listen, if there's anything in the podcast today that encourages you, um, anything that is just maybe, maybe is is a blessing to you, reach out to us if you have our numbers. Um, that's always something super encouraging whenever I get a text or we get a you know just just a message from somebody or somebody on a Sunday morning and say, hey, uh thank you for that. Um that's that's been encouraging. And so um, yeah, reach out to us and let us know. Um, but again, thank you so much for joining us today. Um, and we'll be back soon here on the Pastor's Corner podcast.