EP 14: Who is laughing now Kamala?

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Okay. There we go. I say something. Hello? Hello. Test test, Trump is an asshole. Okay, there we go. Excellent. Sounds good. Yeah. Okay. How? How's that? Let me see. Here. Okay, there's the frame. How's that? I don't know if we can handle this. Oh, and I can see you have a keffiyeh. You realize that that's a that's a symbol of terror, don't you? Terrorist symbol. Yeah, I know, right? Right. Fucking bad motherfucker too bad motherfucker. I know right? I know right? Yeah, I know, that's like, that's the thing, right? Well, who the fuck was it? Some teacher just got booted out. And yet another victim of this crap. Was it Columbia or something? He got he got got, got, lost tenure because he work a theater class. Yeah, I I've been reading a pamphlet because I have. Yeah. Right. Yeah, a number of them, a number of them. Let me let's see here. Okay. Make sure. Okay. All right, all right. I think, I think we're pretty much ready to rock my man. Let's go. All right. So we're back. Oh. We're back. Welcome back later. Whose fault is. It? I think it's probably I blame yours. I would blame, I would blame Jill Stein. No. Why not? You? Anyway, I. You know, for a woman. God. You know. Yeah, it's the anti. It's the Arabs. It's the anti genocide. Of us are not supposed to say that. Is that on the list? Did we check the list? I think I think I think genocide is a word that you can't say. Israeli. Israeli. Our word. You can't say I don't, I think I think we should do our best to not curse that hard. But other than that, I think we should just do what we do, okay? Not not fucking curse. Not fucking curse. No mentions of Israel. We'll fix this all in post. I'll, I'll insert the, we'll we'll have a little Bleep track. No no I, I am back I'm back from Catalunya. It was good. It was good. I mean the food was really good. I thought it was really good. Oh so incredible. And just the people, it's just man, I got to tell you, it was nice to to be at a place that was. I, I mean, I you probably could find, you know, a pro-Israeli person somewhere, but I didn't fucking meet a single one. It was, you know, it was like I didn't. I never got scolded once. I never got, there's not a single person that I talked to about it that was like, you know, tried to equivocate or, you know, give me some line of bullshit about how. Oh, well, we have to do this or that or whatever, you know, or like, you know, there was no none of that. It was just like, you know, unequivocal support, like, yeah, I don't know how the you know, it's a crazy that anybody is, is, you know, is supporting it. It was just, you know, 100% supportive, you know, stickers and graffiti everywhere, like, it's just, you know, I don't know, it was good. It's just I didn't want to come back. That was. There's, you know, I like my my, you know, my family was home, you know, my parents were visiting, so I wanted to see them. There's loose ends at work. I wanted to tie up, but, like, I'll be goddamned if I. And there's, you know, a handful of friends that I that I love and and, you know, wanted to see you, but but god damn, man, it. It was great to be there. Those kids there, it's, when we were in, we went to visit an old family friend in Portugal and walking around Coimbra. The graffiti was like that as well. I love it. I love Coimbra, yeah, it's such a wonderful place. And so we didn't spend. I spent a little bit of time once, once upon a time in, my day. Oh my God, the Pablo Neruda park is just a beautiful place. And then there's a, there's a, I don't remember the street, but it's on this big, big, big street. There's a little cafe on the corner called cafe and J cafe. I think should outside was magnificent and, and I was sitting there in Madrid, my head stuck there and, and when I was there I should say. And there was the moment, the running of the Bulls because it wasn't running. But they were, there was this procession of bulls down the street. I didn't quite understand it. I asked some guy who was there and he told me, no, I but what a great city. And I love it. And the Prado Museum and the, And my absolute favorite quotes, which are poems, compliment the color oriental. I think, the East German. Oh my God, just. Oh that's cool. Bing bing bing bing. It was not open air. It's all glassed in, but right inside it's all open. And you? Good wine, good food, good book asking you and everything like, oh my gosh. Oh I love it. Oh please. Well I guess we could talk about about the latest events in the United States. Yes, yes. Let me the the pre-roll. We are, we are back. Comrades. Welcome back. Welcome back to us. We love you. We're so happy to be with you here again. This is comrade uncle. I am nephew. Comrade nephew. Odysseus, this is my comrade Uncle Abraham. Ibrahim, Yusuf Lyon. And, and we are here to talk to you about Catalonia. Well, we are in Madrid, which is awfully nice. We could talk about Portugal, or we can talk instead about the election disaster in the United States and what that might. I think it's what it's worth talking about. I it's interesting. Yeah. My, my, aside from hospital focus, my focus has been for the last year on what's going on in Gaza. And it's what's intriguing is there's a handful of people, I mean, 1 or 2 of them I actually know personally. But mostly I don't. And but they're really quite bright, quite thoughtful. And they had been talking, as the election neared, which is really no difference at all between, between Trump and, Paris. And, and of course, the focus of course, was, was, was international relations, was foreign policy. And in that context, I actually think there I'm sorry to say too, it's correct. It actually is good. I mean, all right, you know, Paris, as we all know now, lost the election. I think she lost the election months ago when she decided to recruit the Chinese, war criminals. Sorry. They are war criminals, you know, she. When she ignored her base, when she ignored the progressive wing of her party, when she told the young, progressives, I should I say, know I don't even know if they were good when they. When she told the progressives to ask her about her policy and Biden's policy on the genocide in Gaza, she, she said, I'm speaking. Yeah, yeah. Shut up, shut up. I think she lost the election when she when she walked back, walked back, backtracked from her support of Green New Deal. When she backtracked on her support of, Medicare for all and she backtracked on her support of, which I'm pretty sure she did, her support of, a living wage. Yeah. Nobody in the history, at least my understanding of the history the United States and its politics, is it if I've got the opportunity to either vote for an absolute right wing creep or, quasi right wing, sort of not so creepy. Says nice words and smiles. I'll go for the right winger. The real right winger. That's what the United States does. They don't want Republican. Like, you know what? The people I think want is an alternative. But of course she offered no alternative. Right, right. Yeah. No, I mean, it was it was one of a handful. I mean, like I, you know, sending two, not one but two Zionists to Michigan to, to berate, Arab voters for, for, sends, sends, Bill Clinton of all people. And he goes there and tells them, you don't know what you're talking about. You guys, you knew more about it. You would, support, support the Israelis. And what would you do if it was your family that you were peacefully living outside of Gaza, and then you were slaughtered? You wouldn't want moderation. You wouldn't be counting the amount of debt. It's just like, crazed. And then the other one. What was this? Josh? What was his name? Greetings, comrades. Who desired future Odysseus here again? Your nephew. And, I'm just breaking in here to, to give a little, that context. It was Richie Torres was the guy who, showed up in Michigan to stump for Harris and, the, you know, colossal piece of. Garbage. Put it lightly. Yeah. So check this out. Notably, Torres emphasized that Harris and his team had rejected calls by the Michigan based organizers of the uncommitted protest movement for speaking slot at the Democratic National Convention. The movement wanted Palestinian-American to speak, and Harris made the controversial move, because she didn't want to risk any chance of any speaker opposing Israel. Skipping ahead a little bit, this is from an article and some God awful rag. What is this, Jewish Telegraphic Agency? Annie Ray, let's see here. Oh, yeah. This is this is some good shit right here. Try this guy. This is who they sent, you know? Unbelievable. He said, all people of all backgrounds should be welcome at the DNC, but not all messages should be given a microphone on the Democratic Party's most important stage stories told JTA. A pro-Israel party, a pro-Israel party like the Democratic Party has every right to filter out anti-Israel messaging just like a pro-choice party has every right to filter out anti-choice messaging. He added that he believes Harris quote falls squarely in squarely within the bipartisan pro-Israel consensus that has historically governed American politics. Yeah. So this is the guy they sent, to, Michigan. It goes on and, he goes on at some length. So anyway, that's enough of that. And I'm also going to pop in a little bit of, a little bit of Bill Clinton's horseshit. Because why not? Because it's a a little extra, a little something special. You can have a little Clinton, as a treat. And, you know, don't don't wish any good upon it, but somebody should give the guy a glass of water. This man was smacking his dry chops so much that my ears hurt. Anyway, enjoy. This is future Odysseus out. I understand why young Palestinian and Arab Americans in Michigan are. Think too many people have died since I get that. But if you lived in one of those kibbutzim. And. And Israel, right next to Gaza, where the people there were the most pro friendship with Palestine, most pro two state solution of any of the Israeli communities or the ones right next to Gaza and Hamas butchered them. And so then the people who criticize that are senseless and yeah, but look how many people you've killed and retirement. So how many is enough for you to kill to punish them for the terrible things they did? That all sounds nice until you realize what would you do if it was your family and you hadn't done anything but support a homeland for the Palestinians, and one day they come for you and slaughter the people in your village. You would say, well, you have to forgive me. I'm not keeping score that way. It isn't how many we've had to kill, because Hamas makes sure that they're shielded by civilians. They'll force you to kill civilians if you want to defend yourself. And I think part of it is that Hamas did not care about a homeland for the Palestinians. They wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable. Well, I got news for them. They were there first before there was their faith existed. They were there in the time of King David, in the southernmost tribes had Judea and Samaria. This is far more complicated than, you know. Anyway. It doesn't matter easily, she said, an even worse guy, and he said even worse things. Or when she was interviewed, I don't know if you saw this interview where she was, they were asking her, are you worried about your, about the Gaza issue, affecting your election chances? And she she responds by just totally, you know, by literally saying that, you know, 300,000 or however many, all the Palestinian dead, weren't as important as the 1000, Israeli dead. It was just like and this was, you know, a days ago, it was just like. What are you doing? I actually, I didn't hear that interview. I didn't hear the interview where she was asked what to do, and she and she, commented briefly that there was a problem. But people want cheaper grocery prices. Yes. It's very. But, you know, the truth be told, I mean, it's as evident as can be. I mean, there's no it's not a surprise. It's not a secret. The Palestinian slash Lebanese lives are clearly valued much less by the leadership of our country. And of course, Israel than our allies. And, you know, it's I mean, it is I mean, we can talk about the Israeli situation a little bit later, but but but, you know, the the there are what concerns me. I mean, I'm concerned about what's going on in, in, in Lebanon and in Palestine, the West Bank as well as Gaza. I mean, it is a genocide. In fact, just so you know, I sent you and, an email with the U.S., it's 18 U.S.C., 1901, I believe it is. This is the 94 when I'm forgetting them, which is, the law that that defines for the United States what genocide is. We should put that up because there's a fair amount of this. I think this ingenuous, debate about whether this is really a genocide. Yeah. Well, you know, it's not like 6 million people are dead or anything. It's irrelevant. I mean, what the Israelis have done has is, is basically, you know, they've killed members of the group. Significant numbers, probably around 200. Yeah. That's it. It's probably around 200,000, or more people that, you know, the 40 or 50,000 that are recognized are only recognized because their bodies were brought to what remains of a hospital where they were identified and put into the log. But if that's if you're not brought to a hospital and the hospitals have all been now, either destroyed or severely damaged, you're not recognized. So it's probably something on the order of 203. Vaporized. Yeah, two. Hundred, 300,000. So there's that. There's the loss of all the hospitals or the loss of all the infrastructure. Water, sewage, starvation, starvation as a tool of war. And of course, the Douma side as well as scholars to say this is clearly, clearly genocide. And. Right, the, the, the, whether it is Trump who will, I think, speed it up or, Harris who who would have kept it going, I think and that sense, yeah. I don't know to what extent, but but in that sense, there's no difference between the two. It's that's disgusting. There are some differences domestically and. Well, you know, I don't want to get too wound up for what Trump might do. I think I think I think it's Maya Angelou, I believe, who said when someone tells you who they are the first time. They believe them? Yeah. Yes. He has said who he is. Right. He is. If it's not an ideological fascist, he's at least a sloppy fascist, meaning he fulfills a criteria. He doesn't even know that he's fulfilling the criteria. Yeah. You know, we've got we've got I mean, things that are of concern is he, has already stated that he will speed up the genocide in Gaza. So that's a concern. Of course, he's also got this project 2025, which at least, the policies may not be absolutely new, but the codification of them into this document, which is also sent to you. And so you can put it on our website. Yeah. Are very concerning. Now, you know, it's a thousand. Page that is, a comrade uncle podcast comrade uncle Wspa.com might as well just say that. Okay, okay. Go ahead and continue. What he said. Yes. And and, you know, but I did look at the sections that I have some, facility. So I looked at the health related section. And these guys, including Trump, Trump has already said he'll push for a national abortion ban. But what these guys have also done is in the project 2025 under the section on, Health and Human Services is, or, yeah, health Human Services is they've said that they are going to outlaw the, medical care starting for personal medical. Yeah. You know, it's it's I mean, I think we have to believe what these guys say they're going to do. They're going to try and do. And there's more than that. Right? If you read the section on the CIA, on Pfizer, on the workforce of the of the US government, right. One of the reforms of the two centuries ago, in the 1800s, late 1800s, early 1900s, I think it was later to us. Was it look for, bureaucrats and the government became professional. You couldn't just fire them because you don't like their politics. They're recommending that we move back to that again. And it wouldn't surprise me if they were successful at that. So I think domestically, there is significant, significant damage is going to be done to us from everything related, everything starting from, tax policy, more tax cuts for the rich, the poor will pay more, you know, and that, by the way, his tariff policy, which I'm convinced he doesn't understand what a damn tariff even is. But this tariff policy will increase prices for working people, the poor. So everything from financial policy to health policy to military policy to, to, of course, foreign policy. And I'm thinking specifically of the, the Palestine, Gaza, will be worsened. Now, what he will do, he can't function, you know, as Marx once supposedly said, Marx was actually sitting down reading a newspaper, probably having a good cup of coffee, maybe a beer and, a reporter, a reporter. Well, certainly a cigar. Shouldn't cigarets a professor Marx. Now, you've written about the centrality of the working class to the movement of history. But if that's really true, why can't the working class just make it happen? Change it? All right now? And Marx looked at, I got just maybe a pocket full of ants. Okay? Marx looked at him and said, oh, my dear friend. He said, you know, yes, the working class is a motor force of history, but they can't just function any old way they wish. They are constrained by the historical times they're in. They're kind of like a little puppy dog on the back of a pony car with a long leash. They can go a little to the right, a little to the left, a little ahead, a little behind, but the pony cart can go in that direction. It's going to go. And that I bring up that possibly apocryphal, probably as a but then that, example, because Trump will not be able to do just what he will the US today isn't the US of the 1991, in terms of power, economic or military. There is in the context of what he might do, internationally, specifically know thinking about about the West Bank, Gaza, Palestine, there are other actors, Hezbollah. The Lebanese resistance has, as far as I can tell from everything I read, brought the Israelis to a standstill. They're unable to really enter much of Lebanon. Hamas has not been defeated. They are still, they are still, injuring, wounding and killing soldiers, destroying tanks and APCs. And then there's Iran and, you know, I mean, I mean, every country as, as, as, Professor Marandi said from the guy who's a, he's a head of English literature at, I think he's a no. Two at the University of Tehran. Every country's got its problem. Iran has its problems. But in the context of of Palestine, Gaza, Lebanon, they are one of the centers of the resistance. And they have, rather significantly damaged, Israel with their last attack. And I guess my understanding is they're preparing to do yet another one. So I think it's, I think it's. Worth saying just go ahead and trumpet Israel as a Trump and Israel, because clearly the US government is really going to work hand in glove. Can't just do what they wish they could do. It's not a unipolar moment anymore. Yeah. So he will be limited in that sense. But my fear, my mind just my concern right now is like, we got to play the hand we've been dealt for. I concern is that the mystically, there will be more horror for our people, even the people who voted for this, quote, war and and foreign policy, specifically Ukraine, Gaza, Palestine, there will be more terror. There is a horror there as well. I mean, that's the concern we have with this guy. Go ahead sir. Yeah. Yeah. No, what I was going to say is, it's worth worth stating because, sometimes this is lost. You know, the kind of the Israeli line on and, on the Iranian attacks, was that. Oh, they didn't even kill anybody or whatever. Which is like, like laughable. No, no, no, but the aliens were killed. What's wrong? Right. No. Literally that was like their, their whole, you know, it's because that's that's how they think apparently. Or a clearly, but but the the in fact the, the goal was not and maybe I'll, I'll splice in, some, some images here. But the goal was clearly not, not that but to attack military targets and that they succeeded at, some, some images of a bunch of destroyed, F-35s. They struck air bases and they weren't aiming to kill people. They were aiming, I've not seen it. I've seen the the the airfield with damage. I didn't I haven't seen the F-35 read that if we've got if you got photos of that, that you got to put on, I'm sure you're up and down. Yeah. Let me see if I can find them again. Greetings, greetings. Greetings from the future. It is I future of the, breaking in to tell you that, isn't real. Had a bunch of the videos and pictures taken down, so it has become increasingly difficult, to find them. I'll go searching some more, but, anyway, here's some stuff that I did find. I've spliced it in here. If you are only listening, then you'll hear some strikes. And, but to cut a long story short, you know, 96, I believe it was, strikes hit inside of the base. So pretty unlikely that it didn't do some damage. At any rate, you know, they lie. They lie a lot. So, no surprises there. My favorite, my favorite Copium video from, from their response is, this one of of this, you know, one of their, one of their guys standing in front of a, a single, F-35 and, and being like, there was nothing that, that they have done to us. You know what? This weird little lisp, it's did not, attack the base. Anyway. You know, get your excuse. Everything we do not like is from us here. The missiles, some. Hummus, which is not Sabra is some us, strength or some us, F-35s are not some, At any rate, you know, so yeah, the that's to the earlier point and to the later point, certainly, what I don't want to give, the impression of is that, I mean, I don't blame anybody for not voting for Harris. I get it. I do, I do, I do, I 100% do. And I think that there might even be, I don't know, I mean, who knows? It's hard to say in the long term, but I, I'm on one level really glad that, a candidate that is actively committing genocide, did not get elected. Now, does that mean Trump is going to be better? I'm afraid not. Not. I'm afraid not. I'm positive not, I don't think he will be, you know, in any respect. Not not, not, you know, not, not domestically. Possibly not internationally. I'm not sure. You know, at least maybe there could be some whatever. It doesn't really even bear speculating, but maybe there could be some de-escalation, in our proxy war with Russia. But that said, of course, what you're saying is true. The plans the Republican plans, not not just this year, but for the past year. Yeah. You know, 50 years or 100 years, maybe the 50, at least, neoconservative plans have been horrible, for women or for, you know, minorities for the old, and for everybody. Really, actually ultimate. Like like for. The, I mean, climate, I mean, the climate there is an existential threat, actually, Harris said the existential threat was Iran, which is absolutely absurd. The existential threat is, well, actually to nuclear war, which they which Biden has pushed us closer to. And and the climate emergency, which. Yeah, to his credit, Biden did make some moves. I mean, there's some. Very. Minimizers they were smart and we need to do more. And and this is not like some theoretical God. If we just had the technology, the technology to solve this problem in a handful of years exists today full stop and investment of a year, $1 trillion a year. And after ten years, you would have, return on investment of about $100 million. This is fixable. It's doable, but we're not doing it. Instead, we're we are supporting wars that actually worsen the climate emergency. Right. So so I think it's, the the the the genocide is, I mean, it is it is truly an eco side as well. It's I can't remember what the exact numbers. I'll try and get the numbers, but but, you know, it's like it's bigger than the bottom. It's really more emissions than, you know, the bottom. Like, I don't know, 100 and something countries. I don't know if you saw that. That was in the. I think it was in the Guardian. I didn't, and I don't think I saved it, but I but it was something to that effect. Right. The emissions released but with all this weaponry bombs, airplanes, tanks. Right. Is has way overshot our budget. What we're allowed to do, and still stay safe. Which were clearly not right, by the way. Right. Not safe. Just look at what happened a few months ago in, Asheville, North Carolina. Look what just happened in Spain. And look what just happened actually in Israel as well. These horrific floods. So China is so this is not. Yeah, that's the existential threat. And he, Trump is going to ignore it because he believes it's a Chinese hopes and, the leadership under Biden and Harris haven't done enough, had not done enough. I mean yeah. So there's that is counterproductive. In fact, you know, I mean, like like, refusing, you know, we, we, we blame, you know, Trump rightfully for for his, hostility towards China. But, you know, of course, Biden did it too, right? He refused to allow we could be having $20,000, EVs, electric, you know, cars or whatever. Right now, if we just stopped harassing China and allowed them to, sell cars to us. But but instead we're escalating. Escalating escalate. Yeah, it's. It's 100% right on that. So so I mean, those are the I mean, those are the things that worry me. I mean, and then there's the source of the I don't not, not, not banal because it's not banal, but it's the stuff that, you know, we're involved with. Like I'm involved with hospital with my patients still come in and can't afford the medications. You know, even though there's this reform for $35 insulin, which insulin is that, by the way? It's not all insulin. It's, you know, a variation on one of the insulins. But that's if you're on Medicare, people are on Medicare. People work three jobs. They're too young to be on Medicare. They can't afford their medications. They come in time after time with uncontrolled diabetes and diabetic ketoacidosis. It's I mean, this is an absurdity. The data have been in for decades, for decades. We could cover everybody in our country, frankly, whether you're a citizen or not, cover everybody, everybody for dental and medical and even long term care. And we'd still save money. We still wouldn't spend as much as we already spent. So, yes. The latest, Kaiser Family Foundation. I'm sorry. No, the latest Commonwealth study. Let me studies come out about every 2 to 3 years, where they compare the top ten, 11 was not the top, top 1011 health systems, but the top the richest 1011 countries in the world. And it's, you know, Germany and Netherlands and France and Britain and the US and Denmark and Sweden, you know, so forth. Like we are always number 11, the most expensive, the worst outcomes. And we were again, this last one, the most expensive, the worst outcome. It's not because we have stupid nurses and stupid doctors, stupid, stupid administrators. None of it. It's the system that is so utterly screwed up that no matter how hard you try to make things better. Yeah, can't make things better. I just had a patient, he's he's admitted. I can't remember exactly. He's been admitted, probably, at least every three weeks for the last months. I've forgotten exactly. But literally over and over and over, this guy is homeless, unhoused. Yeah. He's unhoused. He can't store his insulin. How much would we save? Just in monetary terms, to say nothing of that. What we do for his life, if we had a place where he could live, if we. Right. But no, we don't do that. You know, it's it's not shameful of patients at all. I got a handful of patients that are like that. Social services do their best, but they can't do this because there is no system in place to take care of these people who fall outside the white lines. So I'm terribly concerned. Again, I we start talking about trauma versus pardon, but what it actually means, I'm not at all convinced that that Harris would have been great on health care. She she wouldn't be. She backed away from Medicare for all, you know. But this guy and the right wing in this country, I mean, they are happy to see women die. They are happy to see homeless people die. They are happy to see, sorry, LGBTQ die. They don't care if you're pro-life. That's what project 25. They're pro-life, but only to the point of birth. And then it's too bad to say you're on your own, right? It's pathetic. I mean, it's it's probably something. So that's of concern. And then, of course, we've got the issues that we've discussed a little bit already, which is this genocide being perpetrated by Israel, not just with our, complicity. It's beyond that. Now we are actively participating in this genocide, and it is a genocide. And the the fact that we value life so little in that part of the world is just remarkable. And, you know, of course, what people say, and I've heard it very recently. Well, I mean, if they didn't want a war with Israel, why they start a war with Israel. So but the only way you can say stuff like that, the only reason anyone could make such a statement is if they're utterly ignorant of the history of the area, it hasn't matter. First of all, that war, quote unquote war, that war, between, against the Palestinians, which was a European Israeli war against the Europeans, started 100 years ago, first of it starts when the when the British, who think they've got the right to take over Palestine, the League of Nations gave them a mandate to take Palestine and and make it ready for democracy. Right. Make it ready for democracy. They thought they had they think they thought they had the right to do that. And then they felt they had the right because they're such anti-Semitic sons of fucking bitches. Forgive me. I know he's a queen, but they were so anti-Semitic. They. And there are others in Europe who did the same thing. The poles, for example, were great at this, said, let's just transfer these guys somewhere else. Hey, how about Palestine? That's way before World War two and the Holocaust. The most Jews from my reading and talking to people, they said, no, you know, we're not interested in that. We we're German, we're English, we're Danish, we're Swedish, we're whatever we are. Know? Yeah, we have this religion, but come on. But after the Holocaust, it it it gained steam and land. It belonged to somebody else was taken. It's true the UN did this deed. But remember the UN in 1946 seven was not the UN of today. It was the UN that was made up of, frankly, not much more than the post-World War two, but what was left of Europe and the United States. There wasn't much there. Yeah, yeah. And they did it. I mean, of course, in Latin America we talked about it, but and they, you know, it wasn't there to give away. Right. And then and, and and so for the first but for the 48 to around 50, 60, I mean, there was no quote, terror unquote. There was no PLO, there was no nothing, you know, and certainly and certainly once the PLO formed and, you know, the attempt was, first of all, to return to their homes, that the actually Israel was only and Israel was only allowed to become a member of the United Nations if it allowed Palestinians who had been displaced to go back to their homes or right, or where they were, or if they were compensated for the land they lost. They never did that. They did not support other criteria. The, the you know, if you fast forward, the Palestinians attempted both to the use of violence, it's true, but also through peaceful means to get some redress, always unsuccessful. And so when people say, well, why you start a war if you didn't want to have a war, look what's happened. I mean, in 2018, I believe it was the great march of return, right where thousands marched up to the demarcation. It's not a border because Israel has no borders. They refused to define their borders. They marched up to the the fence that was a demarcation and said, we want to return to our homes. It was all peaceful. What was yours really? Response? No. Children. Overwhelmingly, the Israeli response was to to use snipers to shoot people deliberately, to give them, what they called life altering, wounds. So in other words, shoot people in the knees. Two people, paralyzed them, and, and that, that they did in overwhelmingly children. And this is all very well documented. It's not like speculation or their claims. They tried peaceful methods. They really did. You don't. And but you don't see Mexico in the US because, this is part of the it sort of gets back to the issue of, so, sorry, I'm looking to see what time. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. Gets back to the issue. Yeah. 15 minutes more. It gets back to the issue of, of, you know, the. The election here and the media. I mean, I think we had pretty significant media malpractice. Yeah, about about what was going on here. And certainly the same thing with what's going on there. I mean, this is probably not the place to rehash all of it, but it's very intriguing that Israelis are killed where Palestinians simply die, that bullets enter a car to kill a six year old. But, you know, an Israeli is murdered. It's right. It's as clear as can be. But the way they talk about about things is, you know, a complete double standard. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So so I guess. But but I want this to be unequivocally just here, that the, the international humanitarian law does that an occupied people have the right to resist, even violently. But it also states that there are conditions that have to be fulfilled. Hamas or if not Hamas themselves, people who followed on Hamas did commit crimes and are considered war crimes, killing civilians, you know, taking soldiers prisoner of war. That's not a crime, but taking children and old people and just shooting people who surrendered. And to their credit, now they're all the leaders are dead. So but to their credit, what Hamas had said was we recognize the International Criminal Court. We will follow their findings. Let's have an investigation. Israelis, unequivocally, no, we don't want any part of it. Yeah, yeah. So they also to turn themselves in, you know, there were like as long as as long as Netanyahu comes to, you know, we're we're fine. And then we're. So, so, so, so, you know. So where does that leave us? Well, where does that where actually where does that leave us? Because we're running out of time. Where does that leave? Yeah, where it leaves us is there is a genocide that's ongoing. There is a war in Ukraine that the Ukrainians are losing. I did send you two documents. So I hope you sort of put on, you know, again, there's probably not enough time to do this. Any detail, it needs to be done. We'll go back into it. But. Is is the fault of all of that war in Ukraine? The Russians on Putin, you know, it is it is true. It is true that Putin made the decision to invade. But that is true. And and, you know, you really shouldn't do that. You can't do that. You can't take land by force. That's that's the bomb. But but but it didn't start that day in February. No, no, there is a whole and that's the those are the documents I said. There is a whole and it's denied mostly in our country. There's a whole history. When Germany was was reunited just before the USSR collapsed, where, Secretary of State, Secretary State Baker meeting with Shevardnadze, the minister of Foreign affairs, and Gorbachev said and put on paper that there will be no expansion of NATO, not one inch beyond the borders of East Germany. They said it. It's there in writing. Yeah, it's it's also true that it wasn't in a sorry. It wasn't sorry sorry sorry. No no no don't don't don't apologize. So so the upshot anyway, is that, we agreed to something, and we did not honor that agreement. You know the memorandum. Yeah. It's not in a treaty. And so we'll say, well, too bad for them. They're so stupid to believe us. But I'm sorry. I mean, no, that's not the way to, So so we, you know, the you, the USSR lost between 26 and 27 million people in world War two. They lost about 1.8 to 2 million people, 2.6 million people in World War One. You know, they were invaded multiple times. I mean, I sort of, even if I don't like to, even if I detest Putin, I've got to be smart enough to see. And frankly, I don't trust him. I think he leaves a lot to be desired. But the guy's no demo. We have to be able to understand why he might mean. That's what. That's what diplomacy is all about. Right? You have to understand why he might be concerned about having NATO troops weapons on his border. Yeah. And so, again, should he be invaded, I mean, from my standpoint, no, we shouldn't have, but we should have figured out a different way. But were there multiple attempts to try and figure things out that we and our British, colleagues sabotaged? Absolutely. Yeah. No, we scuttled the deal. They even had a, working peace deal that both sides agreed on. Ukraine and Russia and our, and our little, you know, our little Boris Johnson puppet, our weird Muppet man, Boris Johnson came in there and scuttled the deal, said, we will not support this. We will not give you the security guarantees that you want. Do not make, peace with them will, you know, are just going to die. And so that's what they did. I mean, I mean, you know, so what is one what what is another country, what are other countries to make of our guarantees are worth. Right? I mean, we say to the Iranians, we really don't want you to have nuclear weapons because we don't want a nuclear zone. Well, we know as well as anyone that the Israelis have nuclear weapons and would use it and might use still be at the top. You know, I mean, why would they not want to have them again? I don't believe me. I don't want any part of that stuff. But to understand standpoint, look what's going on. And we're doing nothing but making it worse. We made it worse with Obama. Sorry. Right. We made it work with a bomb. It was worth it. Trump won this war and Joe Biden Harris. And it's going to be, I'm afraid worse now with with Trump Trump. Yeah. Yeah. So you know it's true. We can't. But wait. Once I got one last thing I got 71 loss and that is so what do we do I mean you know Joe Hill when he was murdered by the copper bosses, I believe it was in Colorado. My man said to have said before he died. Don't more organized. For at least if he didn't say it, the song was written about him. Did say that, you know, we we're in big trouble. But we do. We need to organize. Not along. Sort of, what's the term identitarian lines? Not sorry. Thank you. Sorry. Not a long identitarian. Like not not in terms of identity politics. They matter, right? I mean, diversity matters, but class politics, we have to come together and organize. We need a working class party and working class, you know, working class. Well, what about a women's party? But most of the working class United States, much of it is women are women, right? No. And I mean, I'm I mean, I'm a physician, but I'm I don't own the means of production. I own my knowledge. That's what I own. That's all I own. You know, you're working. In other words, working class is pretty broad. It is all of us who do the work. We need a party that represents us. The Republican Party represents the fascist wealthy of the country, and the Democratic Party represents the wealthy of the country who are on the edge, if you ask me, a fascist. So, you know. So we need to organize. We get it. We need to argue and we will argue. We will disagree, but we have to see the things that are bigger than our individual areas exactly come together and sort of problem solve. And it will be this week or next week. It'll this is generational, but that's the only thing we can do to solve it. And internationally as well. Not not even just, not even just nationally, not even just inside the US. It is something that we all have to work to work together to achieve. And, and, and furthermore, you know, if we're locked out of the levers of power, in terms of, electoral politics, then, you know, all the more reason that we have to work together. I don't think that change is going to come from the top. It has to be a grassroots thing. That means organizing in terms of labor. That means organizing internationally. That means, you know, that means fighting. And here we are. Trump is president. However, we got here, we got here, Trump is president. There's no sense in, in in denying it. There's no sense in anything else. I mean, the Republicans, you know, may have the majority they need to do all kinds of terrible things. And, and, and, you know, it's the type of guy that's were in charge, probably see, all other terrible things, maybe not some of the same ones, but nonetheless, it we, you know, ending this genocide, that is something that the people have to do. The government's not going to do it for us. You know, the, the, a law that Schumer wanted to pass after the election, but before the, the, inauguration of whomever had won was a law that would make it illegal, as in Britain, as in Britain, to use certain words when you're talking about the, Israeli Palestinian conflict, quote, unquote. I'm not sure the Democrat bigly. Right. I'm sorry. No, the guy's bought and sold. You know, I don't know what his deal is, but I know his impact moneys are quite high. Again, speaks to the fact that we need to fix, campaign finance reform to fix everything else. So. Internationalism? Yes. Fix the things we can fix here. We have to organize together. We are not going to give up. There's an old saying. There's an old. I believe it comes from the Torah, which is just so beautiful. It says, and in this case, a man or a woman, a person is not obliged to finish the struggle for justice, but he or she is obliged to begin the struggle for justice. We have done that. I mean, I mean, been much younger than I. I've been at this for 50 years, right? I think I've told you about my first event, 1971 72, UC San Diego, but and I'm just a I mean, believe me, I'm not I'm no, I'm not the example you want to use of a real activist. But but I've done my little bits. We all have to know a bit. Yes you are. The point is, the point is, is that we are obliged to push, to make justice happen, to make justice bend the curve toward justice. We may not see it. We probably won't see it. But that's what we have to do. Even if we yes, we do it because it's right, not because we're going to win. Yeah. God damn right. Man, that is perfect. I could not put it better myself. Nephew. Comrade nephew, comrade uncle. 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