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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick, Season 2, Ep 6 - Aquariums
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Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! We appreciate your support, listener! (There's at least one of you!)
Venture beneath the surface with us as we explore the tranquil yet thrilling world of aquariums. From the Greater Cleveland Aquarium to Canada's Marineland, we recount tales of awe-inspiring underwater tunnels and the anxiety they can induce. Our conversation flows into darker waters with the recounting of a disastrous aquarium event, sparking a discussion about the fragile plight of aquatic creatures. Alongside these stories, we reflect on nature's majesty, from the prowess of eagles to the mysterious locations our podcast seems to find our listeners, often when they least expect it.
~ Kate & KJ
uh somebody is hi everyone, hey, hello. Hey, I always do this, can you hear me?
Speaker 2what if they say no, you're not gonna freaking know no aquarium is our topic today aquariums but we have some catching up to do yeah, I just want to clarify that last week we talked about tony's son marrying Courtney Love's daughter, and I want to give you a fun fact about Tony Hawk.
Speaker 1Tony Hawk.
Speaker 2Tony Hawk cool guy, really cool guy and Cassidy, my daughter Cassidy and her friend Lisa. Hey, girls went to see him. Maybe, I don't know, it was a long time ago, 20 years and they got their picture taken with them. So Tony Hawk in the middle, cassidy on one side, lisa on the other. They made a Christmas card out of it, did they really.
Speaker 1It was awesome, thank you.
Speaker 2Cassidy for reminding me of that, and I would take a new picture because I don't know where my original one is. I'm sure Cassidy has a copy somewhere.
Speaker 1We could hang it here in the studio.
Speaker 2Happy Hol. Somewhere we could hang it here in the studio. Happy holidays, tony Hawk. He had no clue he was going to be in a Christmas card.
Speaker 1He has no clue. He's going to be on this podcast.
Speaker 2Two times Two weeks in a row now.
Speaker 1We're going to have him here too, right?
Speaker 2I would love to. He's an interesting guy.
Speaker 1He's the famous skateboarder. For those folks that don't know, oh, who wouldn't know?
Speaker 2Tony Hawk, everyone.
Speaker 1I guess I mean, I bet you, my mom doesn't know, Well, she might, actually she's a skateboarder right. She who? What, yeah she's a hardcore.
Speaker 2She has a pool in the back.
Speaker 1She's a hardcore boarder. Boarder rhymes with hoarder.
Speaker 2You know that I do, and you know something. Nothing related to whatever, but this is how my brain works. Are you writing poetry out of it? No, but did you?
Speaker 1know that one in 20 people are hoarders. Hoarders. I learned that in the last couple of days.
Speaker 2You know the definition of hoarder. Well, it may not be garbage and animals, but so are books hoarding Sure Because. I might be hoarding books. Yeah, you might be hoarding books.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you're not a hoarder.
Speaker 2Are you. No, no, because I get rid of them too.
Speaker 1See, you can do that.
Speaker 2I can do it.
Speaker 1Those, folks unfortunately have problems with that. We've been watching some of those.
Speaker 2I think, yeah, I always. Should I clean the house or watch hoarders and feel better about my house?
Speaker 1Exactly Watch hoarders, watch hoarders.
Speaker 2Yeah, because they're not throwing away garbage. Give her the garbage. Why are you keeping it?
Speaker 1Yeah, it's bizarre.
Speaker 2Don't keep the pizza boxes. No, no.
Speaker 1Don't let the dead animals pile up. Get rid of those.
Speaker 2I mean, that's just.
Speaker 1It's not funny.
Speaker 2It's not funny because it's an illness and I know people can't get rid of stuff.
Speaker 1If you drive around, you can tell yeah, it explodes out to the yard.
Speaker 2Eventually too.
Speaker 1Unfortunate yeah.
Speaker 2Anyhow, we're back. Not our subject at all.
Speaker 1Our subject. We'll get to it my spring break.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Not mine, my family's. I was just along to drive and pay for stuff.
Speaker 2That's why they bring you, so they can eat meals.
Speaker 1Right? No, Brooke, I think, picked up the tab for most of that stuff.
Speaker 2Oh wow, she can come on my next vacation.
Speaker 1Granny Big Bucks. But we went to the fair city of Cleveland, as you know.
Speaker 2I hear it rocks, does it?
Speaker 1I really like it. I thought it was cool. A few people were like it's a fucking dump, it's not. It's actually pretty nice and they've done a lot to develop the downtown and what I liked about it is there was nobody around downtown. I mean you could tell people were working. They're in their buildings but there's nothing going on. It was cold so we couldn't really walk, but we drove around some places. We went to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2Yeah, and what did you think of that?
Speaker 1We saw your picture there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1That's pretty cool. You were like in every band from the 70s. You were a groupie, apparently Apparently.
Speaker 2I don't recall that period so I'm not gonna. I can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 1But no, that was really cool. Five stories that place this place is huge.
Speaker 2I hear it's a two-day affair.
Speaker 1It wasn't for us, because I'll tell you after a couple hours it's sensory overload, man. Oh, I mean it's all music everywhere which I love, but when it's just you're getting hip-hop Bayman from one side, folk music from the other, elvis and Fernie and the Vax rock and roll it's like holy shit, there's too much.
Speaker 2There's a. It was a lot.
Speaker 1But it was really cool. And then we went to the. I don't want to lead into the topic already, I'll skip ahead. Okay, on the way back, because you know we're such sun seekers, we stopped in Utica, michigan, for two days.
Speaker 2We did some shopping there.
Speaker 1Everyone goes there in spring break.
Speaker 2What's the big mall?
Speaker 1Oh, the Lakeside Mall. Yeah, it's shutting down. Yeah, it's shutting down.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1There was nothing in there but it was fun because the stores that were there we wanted to go to and there was nobody there. But we went to Dave and Buster's and that's yeah video games.
Speaker 2Did you play Whack-A-Mole?
Speaker 1No, no, we played a lot of those games where you sit in them and shoot stuff or drive and then, god damn it. Stevens, what was the other thing that you did there? Help? Oh, you did the Museum of Death, oh, the Anatomy of Death Museum.
Speaker 2It sounds morbid, but I bet it was cool.
Speaker 1It is morbid but it's really cool. And the guy, todd, that runs the place Valley Hoo to Todd. He really interesting fellow, really cool. He is very passionate about his collecting. The museum isn't actually a museum, it's kind of like a little former storefront and in the front he has things you can buy. In the back you go through the curtains which are two body bags mounted and you walk through those and go to the back. Oh, that's kind of fun. Excuse me, it's only 20% of his collection, but it was immense. He has like 35 skulls, several skeletons, he has full horse-drawn old-fashioned hearses, he has embalming tables all the embalming stuff I mean it was I wonder, did you ask Todd, how do you get into that?
Speaker 1You know do you pick?
Speaker 2up one skeleton and you go. You know what I think I need more.
Speaker 1I's been fascinated with death for a while because I believe he went into mortuary science. Oh, and that's him and Jovi. My daughter, hit it off because she's interested in that. I mean, she's a sweet little girl, but she's quite dark.
Speaker 1She's a sweet little blondie girl and she likes that stuff, and so she was actually really enthralled with the fact that in the back and he warned us that there was live autopsies going on videoed she sat there watching it like she was watching Hello Kitty or something, but it was very fascinating I think if I had the choice between Hello Kitty and that I would watch the not obituary, the autopsies.
Exploring Aquariums and Memories
Speaker 1But my kid Julian, he was like oh Christ, which I appreciate that he put up with it for us. And then Brooke was kind of walking around wide-eyed like oh my God, but she liked it and I'm super sensitive to that stuff and there was a lot of back. It was kind of overwhelming. You could sense there's a lot of stuff going on there.
Speaker 2Well, you know, here's the thing we all die Not me we do or do okay, we do, we do. We all die. What happens after that, we don't know.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2So there has to be a way to you know, deal with death.
Speaker 1Yeah. Everybody deals with it differently, but you know, I think it's healthier to happens. I mean I, I don't believe this is me, I don't funerals and stuff I think I always the time to me.
Speaker 1I believe that they are more for the living than the dead certainly yeah, but I think that it's good to talk about death, um, read about it, watch, but Go to places like that. Yeah, it's a little, take you back. But and okay, this is what he said, sorry, he said you've seen American Pickers, right. I said, yeah. He said, well, that's me, but I pick funeral homes, hospitals, things like that, and so that's what he does. He collects all that type of stuff. Yeah, he's bent there. What did at the funeral home? Yeah, what did he pick here? Or what did?
Speaker 1he do just I forget what he said he was looking at up here. Darn it, but I don't know. He was amazed with the area lp and he said he couldn't believe it. He came up here and him and his buddy went to some trail and they're driving and eagle swooped down. He's like I couldn't believe it he's like it was out of a storybook. I'm like, yeah, it's pretty nice up there.
Speaker 2I saw an eagle yesterday on the beach.
Speaker 1Did you?
Speaker 2They're always majestic their wingspan's huge.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 2You know what they die too.
Speaker 1They do. I saw a video not too long ago of an eagle carrying a deer through the sky. A deer, wow, it was smaller, but still that could grab a kid.
Speaker 2It can Hopefully bad ones.
Speaker 1I'm just kidding, kidding. I like all kids, even the bad ones, I know Okay. Small dogs oh, I've seen some of those Like dogs getting plucked, with a leash still on it flying through the air.
Speaker 2But we did watch an eagle eating a fish on our beach this was a few years ago and it couldn't. It was too heavy. It kept trying to take it away and then it'd have to eat some more, and I think then it ripped it apart enough that it could dig back wherever to home.
Speaker 1A big fish which is a A real big fish. And it's a good lead-in. For aquariums, yeah, we went to the Greater Cleveland Aquarium.
Speaker 2And what did you think of that aquarium I?
Speaker 1really liked it. I thought it was really cool. You can walk below, you can walk right inside of it.
Speaker 2You know, I think most modern aquariums have, like the tunnels in them that you walk through.
Speaker 1And there's fish above. They have sharks. Yeah, you've been there, right, I have not been to that one.
Speaker 2No, no, I started listing out the ones that we went to. We went to this is a few years ago now. We went to Marineland in Canada by Niagara Falls, which is kind of like had roller coasters and stuff like that, but it had, you could go pet the shark.
Speaker 1What's it called?
Speaker 2Marineland.
Speaker 1Marineland.
Speaker 2Everyone loves Marineland.
Speaker 1Is that the real?
Speaker 2Except Cassidy. She wasn't say that's funny, but that's their jingle.
Speaker 1Is that the theme song? That's their jingle. Yeah, what was that? You were just singing when you came in here?
Speaker 2Aquarium. Oh instead of Aquarius. Aquarium, that's our topic oh that's our topic by the way, and so the other ones we have been to recently. Or we went to the shanghai aquarium, which was huge, but I did read that one of the largest ones is somewhere else in china and it's a modern one, so it had lots of tunnels and it's the qimlong ocean kingdom.
Speaker 2That's it in china we did not go to that one. We went to the Shanghai Aquarium and one thing I liked and also terrified me was you're riding an escalator and there is above you there's the tunnel, with fish going above you, and it was kind of claustrophobic, but yeah.
Speaker 1I thought it would be cool Brooke, my beautiful wife, who I like to mention every podcast, but she said that you can at the Detroit Zoo you know the Arctic Ring of Life and all that jazz that actually you can stay overnight there. You can pay to stay overnight in the tunnel area.
Speaker 2Really, really.
Speaker 1Maybe she was just trying to get me to stay there. You stay there, we'll pick up in the morning. No, but that would be neat.
Speaker 2I think that would be interesting and scary.
Speaker 1Yeah, what if it broke like the one?
Speaker 2did. Did you read about that?
Speaker 1Yeah, that is scary 2012 in a mall, I think it was.
Speaker 2That's a lot of water and fish coming at you.
Speaker 1They died. Turtles died, Fish died. It's hard to believe the turtles. I mean I get why they would maybe die.
Speaker 2but Well, it's probably the trauma of it. Maybe they got cut.
Speaker 1You notice we're worried about the animals.
Speaker 2The fishes People. They're fine.
Speaker 1The people eh, they'll be alright, they'll be fine. Some people got hurt by the broken um. It's not glass, no, it's whatever Acrylic.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, we also went to the Charleston Aquarium. That one was really nice, lots of petting opportunities. And then recently, when we were in Seattle, we went to an aquarium. So as I was looking back, I'm like damn every time we go somewhere, we go to an aquarium.
Speaker 1So I must like them. Did you have some?
Speaker 2Aquariums.
Speaker 1Yeah, not big, so I must like them. Did you have some?
Speaker 2Aquariums yeah, not big ones, obviously when Cassidy again, thank you for mentioning this, Cassidy she said don't forget to mention Bert and Ernie, Because we had, I guess it was an aquarium. It was small, it might even have a small filter on it and she had two fish I believe they were goldfish, Bert and Ernie.
Speaker 2And Ernie ate burt's tail oh just his tail, so he was bobbing, you know nose down for a couple days and we're like I don't know what do we do. Finally he did die. So then our neighbors at the time had one of those uh, small shark. It was just small, small, maybe like four inches. So they're like, can you watch?
Speaker 1the shark.
Speaker 2I'm like, yeah, put him in with Ernie, then Ernie died.
Speaker 1I imagine he did.
Speaker 2The drama of it. So that's our home aquarium. And then Jenna tried to have a fish who she named Lisa. I don't know why.
Speaker 1Maybe after the Simpsons.
Speaker 2Maybe after the Simpsons or after Tony Hawk Christmas card. Lisa, she had her for about a week and she's like you know what? I'm too young to have a fish. I can't take care of her. So they took her back to the fish store and they're like, oh, we don't offer refunds. They're like, no, no, we don't want a refund to the fish store. And they're like, oh, we don't offer refunds. They're like, no, no, we don't want a refund, resell it, good luck. She's decided, she's.
Speaker 1They'll do that.
Speaker 2Okay, so they did take it back. I don't know whatever happened to Lisa.
Speaker 1Well, she got sold and she's in a happy home. She's 25, 30 years old.
Speaker 2Yeah, probably Fish don't die. We took her to a farm off-state.
Speaker 1That was when I was a kid. That was a fond memory. We had a couple of aquariums and I remember we had these ones that were kind of like shaped like an eye and they had a black dot on the side and these two long antenna things sticking out the front. But they were really fish?
Speaker 2Were they angel fish? Or Maybe we don't know?
Speaker 1I know they got. They were kind of angry sometimes you had to be careful. But and then the sucker fish. You know, is this one going to bite you On the side of I don't think so, on the side of the tank? Walk out and look and there'd be one on the floor.
Speaker 2you know, kind of like yeah, you'd think they're dead.
Speaker 1And it's partially dry, throw it in a tank, it's fine. It's fine Like okay.
Speaker 2I was watching. Cassidy always has betta fish and I was watching one. For some reason, I don't know, and every morning I text her I think it's dead. Look at this picture. Is it dead? No, it's fine, I don't know. So I guess they were sleeping on their side.
Speaker 1This band has always looked dead. We bought one on Christmas Eve or the day before Christmas Eve a couple years ago because I was walking by and I was just like oh you poor bastard. It just looks sad and I'm like if he's going to die. He's going to die in our home. Dang it. And that thing lived a long time.
Speaker 2Yeah, cassidy, and some betta fish who outlived other pets, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm, I like fish.
Speaker 2I like to eat them. I do like fish, though.
Speaker 1What kind of fish do you like to eat?
Speaker 2I like a perch.
Speaker 1Yeah, what fish do you like to eat? I like a perch. Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Any places local here. You know, I went to Parker House, bollywood Correa, parker House, and it was. I actually had the seafood eggs benedict and it was pretty good. Sounds interesting it was good, but their special was perch basket. Perch basket, but it was 11 am so I got breakfast. And do you know where the oldest aquarium in the US is?
Speaker 1Um no.
Speaker 2It is in Michigan, it's on Belle Isle.
Speaker 1Is it really?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1No, I've never been there. Wait, the oldest one where.
Speaker 2In the US, come on In the US, yeah, opened in 1904. Yeah, and it's still open.
Speaker 1Have you been?
Speaker 2I have never been to Belle Isle.
Speaker 1Me either. No, is there a nature preserve?
Speaker 2It's got parks and stuff. I don't know People who live in Detroit, my in-laws. They've all been there but I have not.
Speaker 1So the whole notion of aquariums have been around forever. Eh, like ancient civilizations, they kept stuff for food.
Speaker 2Obviously Some folks, so they'd keep them in a tank like a lobster in a tank, whatever it was. Yeah, I don't like that I don't like picking out. Hey which lobster, would you like?
Speaker 1You've done it, though, haven't you I have? Why did you pick the one you picked?
Speaker 2I don't know, he looked the oldest. You probably shouldn't pick them that way, though.
Speaker 1Yeah, like you watch those shows where they just throw them in live what's it matter? I guess you're gonna kill them and throw them in?
Speaker 2no, but it was sad. I remember when I was a kid we got lobsters kind of off an aquarium because it wasn't an aquarium, it was a hot pot of boiling water, not an aquarium. And uh, my dad who was a pilot, they flew to maine, your dad, was a pilot yeah, he was a navigator and a pilot in the air force and so one of their recon missions was they went to maine and they traded them coors beer for lobsters.
Aquarium Ethics and Observations
Speaker 2I don't know why we had coors beer we're in puerto rico anyway. They brought a bunch of lobsters back in these crates and they took them to the neighbors and they opened the crates and there was just lobsters crawling all around their carport and so we picked out some and I can remember my mom throwing them in the pot and then trying to get out and that was traumatic, until I dipped it in butter and then it was not traumatic. It was Sorry lobsters. Yeah, and vegetarians.
Speaker 1Lobster is pretty good.
Speaker 2They're really cute, they are.
Speaker 1Lobsters are cute.
Speaker 2I guess. Yeah, they got those claws going. Help me, help me.
Speaker 1You helped them all right.
Speaker 2I did, I ate them.
Speaker 1Cracked them open and buttered them. I like salmon.
Speaker 2Salmon's good. Oh it, I like salmon. Salmon's good.
Speaker 1It can be good, it can be not so good too. Brighten the pan with the skin. Get it nice and crispy.
Speaker 2Do you eat the skin though? Hell yeah, oh, do you?
Speaker 1Yeah, you don't like the skin.
Speaker 2Sometimes the dark part under the skin is where the fishy fattiness comes in.
Speaker 1The look on your face, I can tell you don't like that.
Speaker 2You can tell yeah, all right, so aquariums.
Speaker 1Conservation, education.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, so I wrote down some pros and cons. So the pro you can learn and see animals that you wouldn't normally be around.
Speaker 1True.
Speaker 2But the con on that is don't those animals have a life? Do they need to come to me so I can see them?
Speaker 1Good point.
Speaker 2You know they had a life before they were living in captivity.
Speaker 1Some are saved.
Speaker 2Some are saved.
Speaker 1Blind sea lions.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's. The other pro is that you know aquariums, especially now they have to be so environmentally correct. That they save animals, that would otherwise die without human help, save animals that would otherwise die without human help. But then you think well, if humans weren't involved, they probably would be living their life.
Speaker 1Yeah, we humans, we just think we're. We screw everything up. Oh yeah, we really think we're something. We think we're the top of a food chain too we do.
Speaker 2It's really weird.
Speaker 1But it was written so.
Speaker 2And I think aquariums, now again, because they're ecologically correct, they provide a natural, more of a natural habitat. You know, and that's attainable to you know, not just fish in aquariums, but you know you have sea otters.
Speaker 1People.
Speaker 2And all that. Would be awesome if there was just a person swimming around every day Mermaid, merman, whatever, or merman Merperson. Merperson.
Speaker 1A non, it doesn't sound right. I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 2But then you have to take it out of its natural habitat to put it in this natural-like habitat. So again, every pearl has a con. That kind of cancels it out.
Speaker 1And they get sick in those sometimes, don't they?
Speaker 2Well, they're living, not in their natural state. It's like putting a person in prison. I will say in Seattle we went to that aquarium.
Speaker 1It would be different if you knew the bad sea creatures and you put them in the aquarium like a prison, like a prison we don't like. People are bad most of the time and they go to prison and then they get, but we just pluck whatever.
Speaker 2Yeah, and so in Seattle they had this great display of an octopus and I will say it was fascinating and I watched it for probably a half hour, just, you know, mulling around, and what they told us was they have a pretty short lifespan. So, uh, yeah, I can't remember exactly, but it was like a year, let's say crap and um.
Speaker 2So they only keep it for a couple months and then they change them out. So, yes, you can learn and see this cool creature that you wouldn't see otherwise. But at the the end of two months we're going to take Lucy I think was its name, I can't remember. We're going to take Lucy out, go back to the wild. We'll get another one.
Speaker 1No kidding.
Speaker 2And it was fascinating to watch. They're such a glob but they're so graceful and smart and I think I had a moment.
Speaker 1We were eye to eye. I bet you did. Yeah, I bet you did.
Speaker 2Yeah, I bet you did. Yeah, she's like get me out of here.
Speaker 1Yeah, what are they yeah?
Speaker 2But I wouldn't have thought, I wouldn't have known that otherwise.
Speaker 1Right. So, You've been to the good aquariums then I went to some crappy ones in Florida.
Speaker 2I can remember when I was a kid.
Speaker 1Florida. I can remember when I was a kid that were oh, even as a kid, you were like this is not right.
Speaker 2This isn't. You know, that's not cool, keeping them all in this small area. And then it was more of a show, you know. So people would like ride on the dolphins or whatever.
Speaker 1That's like when you go sometimes to a resort and they have the dolphins locked up out in this ocean. Have you seen that?
Speaker 2They're just in cages, so you can swim with the dolphins.
Speaker 1Yeah, and they're in cages in the ocean Like it's fucked up. What do I know?
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know. We're getting too dark now. Yeah.
Speaker 1Let's talk about the anatomy of death. Again, kidding, yeah, I mean, go ahead if you've got more there.
Speaker 2I don't really have anything more about it. I just think that for every pro of aquarium there's a con.
Speaker 1Like falling into them, like in 2019, somebody fell into the.
Speaker 2Lisbon Oceanarium. Who the shark?
Speaker 1No, they got them out. Oh, that's the answer. That's why I had eat it. No, they got him out.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1That's got to be the answer. That's why I had it. See, I purposely look for things. I'm like oh man, someone has had to have fallen in and gotten eaten, because people fall into monkey pits or whatever the Grand Canyon, they're falling in the Grand Canyon. Oh God, yeah Well you shoved someone in there to.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Was it some lady standing next to you?
Speaker 2I'm not gonna name any names, okay.
Speaker 1You wouldn't know names' names, don't do it, then. Famous People that show. You know that show. What the hell is it On TV where those guys are building those huge aquariums?
Speaker 2and people's houses. Oh yes, super mega aquarium, tank life or whatever.
Speaker 1And Tracy Morgan's, one of the people that's got the biggest. Did you know that?
Speaker 2Does he, yeah, does he swim in?
Speaker 1it. I don't know.
Speaker 2He's got to be doing something, he's got a lot of money I don't remember. I'm kidding Tracy.
Speaker 1Who else was there? Oh, chad Ochocinco, you know the football player.
Speaker 2He used to be Chad.
Speaker 1Johnson, but he changed his name to Ochocinco because his number was 85.
Speaker 2Oh, but anyway, wouldn't it be 86?
Speaker 1He probably.
Speaker 2Ochocinco, oh no, 85. Okay.
Speaker 1Sorry, I had to go through one of those traits. Anyway, they're supposedly well-known for their big-ass aquarium. I just thought I'd throw that in there.
Speaker 2I don't know, you'd have to be very dedicated or very rich and hire somebody to who's going to clean it. Exactly.
Speaker 1That's what my wife says all the time when we want an aquarium. When you want anything, she probably says that rightfully so, and I know who's going to Fucking me.
Speaker 2That's what I want. Yeah, those are gross too Aquariums. They can get really bad, that algae.
Speaker 1Even if you have filters and stuff. If you made a self-cleaning one, you'd be a billionaire.
Speaker 2You're probably. I bet there's something. Do you have an aquarium right now?
Speaker 1Empty in the basement. My daughter was.
Speaker 2Does a terrarium count as an aquarium or is that a different topic?
Speaker 1Okay, Well, we can talk about those. Those are cool. My daughter makes those things.
Speaker 2The terrariums. I like a terrarium.
Speaker 1Wait, is that what it's called?
Speaker 2Well, it's just got plants in it. It might have water and stuff in it. It's like a small ecosystem.
Speaker 1I like that word.
Speaker 2Which I guess an aquarium is.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2So what else you got about aquariums?
Speaker 1I don't really have anything else. You covered most of it.
Speaker 2Well, like I said, for every pro there's a con that cancels it out. So I say aquariums are dicks, Dicks that I love.
Speaker 1Yep, I don't say that again. Then the critters are heroes.
Speaker 2Well, it's not their fault.
Speaker 1Some of them are dicks.
Speaker 2Some of them are dolphins. They can be kind of rapey.
Speaker 1I hear yeah, they're bossy rapey. Yeah, they like to fight.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But they're fun.
Speaker 2That's why they're in that prison.
Speaker 1Yep Bad dolphins, bad dolphins, bad dolphins Get in that tunic Ann. Sorry kidding.
Speaker 2Alright, so that's our take on aquariums.
March Madness, Hero, Ghostbusters, and More
Speaker 1Yeah, what else.
Speaker 2Here's our fast five.
Speaker 1Ready.
Speaker 2March Madness.
Speaker 1Hero.
Speaker 2I say hero, yeah, it gets people together.
Speaker 1And then you get to see these Cinderella teams.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's always fun.
Speaker 1Oakland.
Speaker 2Is Oakland the.
Speaker 1University of Michigan here.
Speaker 2Did they win?
Speaker 1again they beat Kentucky. I don't know if they won again, but that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2Okay, how about March Madness?
Speaker 1Wait, what did you say, Hero?
Speaker 2Hero. I say Hero yeah. I want to make sure I got the Ballyhoo to everybody. Oh, I got one more ballyhoo before we get to. Uh, fast five, number two. So, uh, I have a friend named mike who I used to work with, and he texted me happy birthday, which was very nice because, I've.
Speaker 1Oh shit, when was your birthday?
Speaker 2uh, it's march 20th, so it was a couple weeks a week Happy birthday. Yeah, it's nothing.
Speaker 1What are you 30?
Speaker 2Yes, how did you guess?
Speaker 1You can tell.
Speaker 2So what was so funny, though, is he said you know, I listened to your podcast when I first got my truck, I think in September, so months ago.
Speaker 1It probably came with a serious XM it probably came with it, right?
Speaker 2So he said somehow, and we can't figure out how, somehow, whenever he turns his truck on, there's our podcast starts up.
Speaker 1Yes, so he's like you're haunting me. I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2I am and I'm going to do this on every new vehicle. I can get my hands on, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1You hear that Chevrolet so ballyhoo to Mike. Ballyhoo Mike.
Speaker 2Alley-o Mike. So Fast Five number two Don't Stop Believin' by Journey. What's hero.
Speaker 1I say dick because I don't want to hear it again in my life, but it's such a good message.
Speaker 2It was just voted the biggest song of all time by a rock and roll station, which station, I don't know. Turn it off, it's not the best, but no, it didn't say the best, it's almost like a. It didn't say the best, it said the biggest.
Speaker 1Okay, what does that mean? I don't know, but it's almost a meme now, right.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's not even a, it's a joke. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to hear it again. Okay, number, because I'm going to the movie at four, the new movie.
Speaker 1This particular one or, in general, the whole, the whole series. It's heroic. Yeah, I like that. I believe it's heroic. Go ahead.
Speaker 2I think when it came out it was so different from anything else and so funny and there's so many catchphrases, and there's Bill Murray and. Dan Aykroyd. I love everybody in it.
Speaker 1Did you see I was trying to get tickets this past weekend to our beautiful cinema? Yeah, I really like it. Sanctuary Cinema I do too. Nice job.
Speaker 2That was good of them.
Speaker 1I've been to that like three or four times and I don't think I was at the other one that many times in my life.
Speaker 2It's very comfortable.
Speaker 1It is.
Speaker 2It's very reasonably priced and their popcorn is good, so I'm in.
Speaker 1You know, that's another thing we did when we were in.
Speaker 2Did you go to the movies?
Speaker 1We sure did, and I don't remember where we were. Just ask me what we saw.
Speaker 2What did you see?
Speaker 1I don't remember.
Speaker 2Oh, did it really happen then?
Speaker 1Yeah, it did Hold on. What's out right now? Oh, kung Fu Panda 4. I'm not even kidding, kung Fu Panda 4.
Speaker 2And how was it Entertaining Jake Black?
Speaker 1Yeah, the panda's stupid looking. I don't like the panda, I mean the panda's in general, did you get popcorn? We got nothing. What? Because I think we'd eaten just before that and then we went out to eat after or something.
Speaker 2That's why I go to the movies.
Speaker 1But it was cool because it was like this, but bigger and behind. Like when you put your chair back all the way, which every theater should have always done that there was like a little wall behind you so nobody could see.
Speaker 2I like that, yeah, and I think ours too. Our new theater offers some not privacy, but you have a little room.
Speaker 1Space. You know, you're not sitting right on top of people In the jackass, open mouth chewing behind you. You don't hear them, necessarily. You don't hear them.
Speaker 2I have to actually. That's why I have a big coat on, because I have to sit on my coat, because they kind of sink down in those chairs.
Speaker 1So that's why you have your coat, or is it because you have two flasks and a bunch of candy in your pockets?
Speaker 2No, I buy the popcorn.
Speaker 1I like their popcorn. I do too, yeah.
Speaker 2And I think for their Giganto popcorn and Giganto Mountain Dew I get Dr Pepper. I like to mix the Dr Pepper and Coke. I think it's like 12 bucks. That's reasonable.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't think the prices are that bad.
Speaker 2That's a meal right there.
Speaker 1Wait, ghostbusters. Oh, my other question about that was did you see the one previous to this one with Paul Rudd?
Speaker 2I don't think I did. Oh it's good. And I need to. Well, that was on my homework list and I just didn't get to it. I might have saw parts of it, like on regular TV, but I don't think I sat down and watched the whole thing.
Speaker 1I bought it.
Speaker 2I liked it so much oh really and that's what it said you need to watch that one, because this one's called Afterlife, and so it's like the prequel to that.
Speaker 1I don't think you need to.
Speaker 2But I think I can catch up.
Speaker 1I saw Dune 2 without seeing Dune 1. I get it. I saw Kung Fu Panda 4, without seeing the other.
Speaker 2Here's my synopsis of Dune Worms.
Speaker 1Dirt worms. You know that kid, kid, I call everybody kid now because I'm, because you're old. Yeah, welcome. What's his Charlemagne? What's his name.
Speaker 2I don't know you don't like him. No, I just don't know his name.
Speaker 1He's actually a pretty good actor. He was actually alright in that Dune movie too, huh.
Speaker 2I'll have to watch a Dune 2. I did see Dune 1. Did.
Speaker 1I just say pretty good, in Dune 2? I meant Dune as well, but I said Dune 2. But same thing.
Speaker 2Okay, fast five. Number four Ceiling Fans. That was your choice, I know it was.
Speaker 1Now I don't know what I think about them.
Speaker 2I don't care for them. I feel like they're going to fall on top of me. I think if you live in the South, you probably need them, but I don't need them.
Speaker 1We had them in our old house, in the house before that. We don't have them in this house and I don't miss them at all.
Speaker 2Yeah, I have them in this house and I don't miss them at all.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I like a hot porch, you know in temperature. So if you're sitting on a porch outside, like in the south say, and there's a ceiling fan going, okay, but we have air conditioning now, we don't need ceiling fans.
Speaker 1Some of them are kind of cool looking though. Yeah, my parents just got some that are really cool. They like to have this wire cage thing around them and then when you turn it on, the blades come out. And then when you shut it off, the blades contract.
Speaker 2That's pretty fancy man.
Speaker 1I'll say it has a use, it's got a utility, it's a hero, all right.
Speaker 2And the last one is Long Johns. Again, your choice, and I don't know if you're talking about underwear or donuts.
Speaker 1Now I'm thinking donuts.
Speaker 2Okay, either way, I say hero.
Speaker 1Yeah, hero both ways. Agreed what if you're eating a Long John while wearing Long Johns Double hero. That would be a hell of a day.
Speaker 2That would be a hell of a day. That would be a great day You're watching Ghostbusters. It would be On the couch.
Speaker 1Well, what else? All right, Are we done.
Speaker 2That's it. But we do want to say, hey, anybody can text us, or they can't really text us, but you can email us.
Speaker 1You can text me. I'll give you my phone number. Really, yep Ready, wow. I'll give you my phone number. Really, yep, ready Wow. 989 555? No 436-3015.
Speaker 2Wow, I hope you get a bunch of texts.
Speaker 1Probably have to change my number.
Speaker 2Probably because you'd just be overwhelmed with them, or you can always email us at heroerdick2023 at gmail. You can.
Speaker 1Yeah, and if you don't like our email address, go ahead and email us and let us know.
Speaker 2Yeah, If you would like us to we'll change it.
Speaker 1If you feel uncomfortable putting the word dick in the email, we can change it. Yeah.
Speaker 2You know it has different meaning now. Yeah, it used to be a bad like. Just like you know, you could never say suck, suck. And now they're saying it on commercials, you ever see that show Ghosts on. Tv? No, I see it advertised.
Speaker 1When a ghost gets called finally to leave the earth and to where it goes, it's called getting sucked off. It is.
Speaker 2It's so funny 10 years ago, 20 years ago, you could not do that.
Speaker 1No, and then it goes.
Speaker 2We got nothing, no morals left. Nope, nope. Thanks Drew. No, anything goes. We got nothing, no morals left.
Speaker 1Nope, nope, dejarit.
Speaker 2Okay, thanks for listening.
Speaker 1Thanks everyone.
Speaker 2Alright, bye.
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