Hero or Dick
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick, S2, Ep. 16 - Best of Hero or Dick
Join Kate & KJ as they take a fun-filled trip down memory lane, talking about previous episodes. They review some favorite (and no-so-favorite) topics, give shout outs to guests, supporters, and as usual, get sidetracked with off-topic thoughts and banter. And for once, KJ even has a fast-five!
Thanks for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Hello, welcome to Hero or Dick.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, today's September 17th 2024 still. It is still 2024, the year that never ends, yeah. This is season two of our podcast and it's episode 16.
Speaker 1:And once again we're broadcasting from Horse Feathers Studio in.
Speaker 2:Alpena Michigan. Thanks, brooke. And our topic today is Nothing. Best of.
Speaker 1:Best of nothing.
Speaker 2:Best of nothing.
Speaker 1:It's like a Seinfeld episode the show about nothing.
Speaker 2:But wet my whistle here because our podcast has had 500 downloads 513 yeah, 513 as of this morning 14.
Speaker 1:There goes another one just kidding.
Speaker 2:Boom, they're going boom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we decided we'd get together and just talk a bit about the show. Some of the episodes we're going to recap if you're listening to it.
Speaker 2:you probably already know where you can listen to it, but you can find it Spotify, amazon, buzzcast.
Speaker 1:Deezer.
Speaker 2:Deezer.
Speaker 1:Deezer.
Speaker 2:Oh Deezer.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2:I don't either but it's on the list.
Speaker 1:I thought we were on Apple, but Because, once I saw it on, we were on Apple, but because once I saw Google too, and then Google changed all their podcast stuff. Well, I think it's because profanity got us booted.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm just kidding. Use more. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1:It's been a while, though, since we've been recording, because we've been busy with other things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been a couple of weeks three weeks, two weeks, something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ten weeks. My kid's at college, you know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how's it going?
Speaker 1:He doesn't really care about coming home, which is good.
Speaker 2:I think it's not good for mom and dad.
Speaker 1:Well, I get it, but I get it.
Speaker 2:I understand.
Speaker 1:Like he's so comfortable.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:Doing nothing. I mean he's busy, he's got his sports and school and whatever else but he's a track guy, he is. And he likes laying around a lot when he's not doing anything. All right, so I think that he's really enjoying just being on. It's hard because, as you know, once they hit 18, they're so-called adults. They don't need us, supposedly.
Speaker 2:Except when they need some money, except when they need us Advice. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's weird because there's nothing you can do now. I mean, you can guide them, it's kind of freeing, I thought. It is.
Speaker 2:I think, so. You know you don't have to. Yes, you worry about them. Of course you do, but it's kind of like, all right, well, you're under the college, worry now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and something we've noticed grocery bill's a little a lot lower, A lot lower, A lot lower. We now know who was eating all the food in the house and then still, though you have to get used to and it's not that big a deal, but I mean he's a big boy, I mean he's 6'2 and 190 pounds. He's an athlete, he can eat.
Speaker 2:He could eat because he was running a lot. And lifting and all that shit, whatever, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:And so when you make dinner now, you got to remember, it's just me. I eat a lot, obviously, but not some old bees, I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready for hibernation, that's right, that's right. And Brooke and Joey don't eat much. So now it's like okay, I'm cooking like my mom, my mom's still cooking, like she has three boys in the house, you know.
Speaker 2:It's hard. My mom, till the day she died, shopped like she still had six kids at home.
Speaker 1:Was she giving you food, Like I'll take some when you go? I was taking it.
Speaker 2:It's like wow, you have eight cans of chicken noodle soup. I'll take some off your hands.
Speaker 1:But the parenting thing is fun.
Speaker 2:Parenting from a distance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird, it's good because you, at least you can text yeah, and he called. He does call once a week. I told him, oh, and brook did. Before you leave, call your mother once a week at least does he call her every sunday pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he actually called her a couple times this week, because one time he went Because the JCPenney down there one of our sponsors. They had a sale for.
Speaker 1:Northwood University students, athletes, I think, because they have to get dress clothes for some things interviews, traveling- yeah, yeah. So they had a discount sale so he went there and bought two suits Wow.
Speaker 2:So he's 18 and he owns two suits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's impressive. Right there it is, but hopefully it doesn't outgrow them.
Speaker 2:He's done growing, isn't he?
Speaker 1:I don't think he is Really Lifting and stuff Anyway. But he got double charged Uh-oh, and so he called right away to ask what he should do and I said go back into the store, talk to the person that just checked and they just told him at midnight it would get fixed because their computers update Right and did it. I don't know. Never heard from him. It must've.
Speaker 2:It must've been.
Speaker 1:We would've heard from him otherwise, but no, I'm proud of him otherwise. But no, I'm proud of him. He's doing alright. And then there's that other one, that blonde one. You've met her, jovi.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's her name?
Speaker 1:Joby Jody, josie Jovi, jovi.
Speaker 2:Jovi.
Speaker 1:Is she named after Jon Bon Jovi?
Speaker 2:Jon Bon Jovi, I think that's why Unless Brooke?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Maybe she told you whatever secretly she was like I love Jon Bon Jovi, she did go to a couple concerts, shout out to Jon Bon Jovi or Ballyhoo, because he saved somebody this past week who was on a bridge going to jump?
Speaker 2:and him and another guy were driving by or something and he saw her and he talked her off the ledge. You know what, if I was going to jump and I saw Bon Jovi come to my rescue, I think I would say you know what, if I was going to jump and I saw Bon Jovi come to my rescue, I think I would say you know what? Sure I won't jump.
Speaker 1:Yeah that, or grab him and take him over, or grab him and take him with you. Go down like a legend, poor John Bon Jovi. Guy had throat surgery.
Speaker 2:You know he couldn't.
Speaker 1:I don't think he can sing anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh, can he?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, I was listening to that podcast, smart List, with some people on there that we don't talk about anymore. He was on there and, yeah, he had some serious issues and he's not supposed to sing for a while.
Speaker 2:He might not ever sing again. I just listened to that same podcast with those evil people on it, but their guest was Michael Keaton.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I can't tell you how much I love him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do too yeah.
Speaker 2:I have not seen the Beetlejuice Beetlejuice movie yet, but I hear it's fabulous for my children. Cassidy, I think, watched the original Beetlejuice movie, I'm going to guess, 112 times.
Speaker 1:Really. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. Yeah, she probably knows quite a bit about it then.
Speaker 2:Well, I hadn't watched it for years, 20 years plus and I did watch it recently, within the past two weeks, and I was surprised at how many catchphrases. I was just zipping them up. I was like oh yeah, I remember that movie.
Speaker 1:That was a great podcast.
Speaker 2:That podcast yeah.
Speaker 1:Michael Keaton's just awesome. Michael Keaton. Why isn't he president? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Michael Keaton's just awesome Michael Keaton. Why isn't he president?
Speaker 1:Yeah, why isn't he?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Why haven't we done a show about Michael?
Speaker 2:Keaton, he's too smart. Well, I'm putting him on the list, right now Put him on that list. Mike, we'll call him.
Speaker 1:Mike, Mikey K Anyway. But the daughter there, she likes the Beetlejuice too and I want to take her to see it. But teenage girls are different.
Speaker 2:Than what.
Speaker 1:Not teenage girls.
Speaker 2:They kind of have their own world Personalities.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm just kidding. No, she's interesting. A lot of boys seem to like her.
Speaker 2:Well, she's blonde, so right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they seem to come around the house, yeah, and she's always like oh, they're just friends and I'm like to you. That's not that they have any nefarious plans, but they like her, they've taken a shine to her.
Speaker 2:If you know, you were a teenage boy before. I don't care what they're saying, they're still teenage boys.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, they don't want to be in the friend zone, they want to be a boyfriend. A boyfriend, yeah, but she hopefully keeps putting them in the friend zone. She does have a boyfriend though, oh, she does. Yeah, evan, he's a nice kid, been around a while here.
Speaker 2:Hmm.
Speaker 1:He said, like I think, six words. He's quiet.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:I think she probably likes it that way too. She's pretty bossy. I love you, jovi. Back to the show, though. Talking about downloads listeners, I could give a ballyhoo Is that what we call them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a ballyhoo.
Speaker 1:This lady, a woman that works with me. She started listening to our podcast, Phyllis, so thanks.
Speaker 2:Phyllis.
Speaker 1:Hey, phyllis. Phyllis is a baker, oh, and a cooker, and collects a lot of vinyl. That's a chef not a cooker. That too. Cooker sounds like she's a rice cooker or a breaking bad cookin'.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Cookin' Cookin' something special.
Speaker 2:You need to clarify.
Speaker 1:Blue ice.
Speaker 2:She does not make that.
Speaker 1:Do you have any updates on listeners?
Speaker 2:On listeners, well, I would say that our most loyal listener is Cassidy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She listens to all of them and she critiques. And man does she critique? Yeah, I don't want to know. No, you don't want to know. But no, you know. No, I I've shared them with you, I know what was the one thing she didn't like?
Speaker 1:that ah forget well she had a couple opinions um a few things.
Speaker 2:She did tell me that um the latest episode on sesame street. She had forgotten to remind me that there was a I think it's European and I think it's Russian version of Sesame Street. She said it's very interesting to watch it.
Speaker 1:Probably not a good time to mess with my mic, huh.
Speaker 2:No, just leave it.
Speaker 1:Goddamn buzzing sound that no one is going to hear except for me.
Speaker 2:No one's going to hear.
Speaker 1:You know we should. As know, as we grow, you know we become millionaires doing this. We can hire Cassidy.
Speaker 2:Cassidy would come.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I would love for her to come and do a show. Jenna's done a show, Jenna and Jovi ballyhoo to you.
Speaker 1:Ballyhoo, you are two the brave souls.
Speaker 2:Brave guests. Jenna did a phone-in and it was hilarious about the mustaches.
Speaker 1:It was hilarious. Yeah Was Jovi on two of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Jovi's been here twice.
Speaker 1:Serial killers. That's what she really wanted to tune in for.
Speaker 2:Yeah and she did a good job.
Speaker 1:How many downloads did we get on the serial?
Speaker 2:killers? Oh, I don't. Can I tell from here?
Speaker 1:How many times did we get on the serial killer? Oh, I don't.
Speaker 2:Can I tell from here? I don't know. I thought it was on the list, that doesn't matter. I want to say the biggest feedback I got was from our episode about serials, not serial killers.
Speaker 1:I think that was one of the most popular ones.
Speaker 2:Because people have opinions about their serial.
Speaker 1:They really enjoy serial or they don't.
Speaker 2:Or they don't, or they enjoy certain types Right cereal or they don't, or they don't, or they enjoy certain types right. Nobody. Nobody got a hold of me and said man, I love grape nuts. Why didn't you talk about grape nuts, which I think we did?
Speaker 1:but I enjoy grape nuts do you like your teeth? I do, I and, but the thing is to help the cereal. But what do I do?
Speaker 2:I just load it up with sugar oh, do you put sugar on top of cereal still?
Speaker 1:I, I do.
Speaker 2:I actually put some on some count chocula, don't tell anybody you know, I mean, I can remember being a kid and adding sugar, but I never let my kids, my kids, add sugar well, I'm an adult, god damn it.
Speaker 1:I buy, I buy the sugar. I can put sugar on it.
Speaker 2:I do remember we just talked about it. This weekend Jenna went to a friend of hers who was the only child. She went to her house and she came home and said Mom, she has three boxes of cereal open at once. Blasphemy, because at our house it was like you want that second box. You got to finish this first box and it was like you want that second bag, you gotta finish this first bag. And she was like amazed.
Speaker 1:That kid's living large.
Speaker 2:She got three boxes of cereal. What type of cereal would you like? Which one would you like? I don't know.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like that for me either. Not that it was a bad thing.
Speaker 2:It just made sense.
Speaker 1:The world's different now. People have multiple boxes open at one time.
Speaker 2:Apparently, isn't that nuts? Well, this kid didn't grow up to be a stellar human being, so maybe it was because of the cereal. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Hey, at your house now or in the past, did you keep the cereal in a box or did you put it into a container?
Speaker 2:We just put it or we just kept it in a box, Because it usually didn't last long enough to do that.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got you.
Speaker 2:We keep them in these tall containers, yeah, like a Tupperware thing I do too, but you know at our house if they opened one you know, like within a few days it was gone and, honestly, I haven't bought cereal. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1:I bought gingerbread toast crunch and I made Rice Krispie Treats, or they equate equal to Rice Krispie.
Speaker 2:Treats out of them. They're gone. They're delicious, they were delicious. I would make them again, and it's such an easy thing to make.
Speaker 1:Did we? Oh my God, did I talk? I get off track, sorry.
Speaker 2:No what.
Speaker 1:About my baking and cooking lately.
Speaker 2:No, are you on a baking spree?
Speaker 1:That's one of my hobbies now.
Speaker 2:Did Phyllis teach you that?
Speaker 1:No, no, no I she has to make the dinner. It doesn't have to, but she's usually home at dinnertime more than I am. So I feel bad. I'm like I've got to sack up here, especially when I have another mouth to feed. I'm like I'm going to start making stuff. I've only made so far a meatloaf, turkey and turkey sausage meatloaf, which they called savory Really. Then I made no-bake peanut butter bars.
Speaker 2:Those are got to be good. Easy to make, but they were good. No-bake cookies are good Gluten-free.
Speaker 1:It's broke, you know, on the gluten. What was the other thing I just made yesterday? Mexican fiesta chicken?
Speaker 2:Oh, that sounds delicious.
Speaker 1:That's delightful, my next dessert is going to be a layered lemon cake.
Speaker 2:I'm not messing around, that sounds time-consuming.
Speaker 1:I know, but I like to do it on Sundays. It's therapeutic.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I need time in the kitchen.
Speaker 1:And then one more thing. Back to the cereal, yep, because it was an episode.
Speaker 2:It was a very popular episode.
Speaker 1:Did we talk about Count Choculum Booberry?
Speaker 2:I believe so Last time, but I would have to.
Speaker 1:So that means we've had those boxes of cereal.
Speaker 2:since we talked about this, maybe you should have put them in the Tupperware things.
Speaker 1:But I just had a realization that as I was eating the Count Chocula and then I tried the Boo-Berry, I thought I always liked Count Chocula better. That's not true anymore.
Speaker 2:I like Boo-Berry better. Your tastes have matured.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you like those cereals? No, isn't there Frankenberry too? There is Frankenberry. You don't like that shit.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not. I like Cinnamon Toast Crunch, which I think was just on the top of the list for most popular cereal Cinnamon Toast Crunch. I like just a bowl of Cheerios sometimes.
Speaker 1:Cookie Crisp.
Speaker 2:No, but Oreo cereal.
Speaker 1:You do like Oreo cereal, that's right.
Speaker 2:But I don't eat it for breakfast. Snack I have it later for a snack, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, because it's mini Oreos.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:I love cereal. Anyway, on to the next.
Speaker 2:So we did cereal and serial killers.
Speaker 1:Serial killers was a good one, I thought. But it's hard to talk about that and not sound like we're promoting. Why would we?
Speaker 2:yeah, and why would we say those serial killers?
Speaker 1:they're heroes yeah, no, you can't say that, even though they're not. I'm just kidding. Um, what if that person that was jumping off the bridge was a serial killer?
Speaker 2:we don't know. And so john bad jovi saved her for what?
Speaker 1:maybe that person was a real asshole. Person's gonna child molester. You don what. Maybe that person was a real asshole and now that person's going to Child molester. You don't know what that person was.
Speaker 2:We don't know.
Speaker 1:I guess I don't either. I shouldn't say that stuff.
Speaker 2:Here. Let me just run down the list really quick. So our first episode was about Ben. Franklin.
Speaker 1:Lame.
Speaker 2:Why? Why is that lame? I'm just kidding I.
Speaker 1:I think about the other stuff we talked about seems more interesting, but Ben Franklin got a lot of listens. No, ben Franklin was very interesting.
Speaker 2:I thought, oh yeah, that's because, and you know Did- he have bones in his basement. He had bones in the basement. Not because he was a serial killer, but because he was interested in science and that's what Dahmer said anatomy.
Speaker 1:And then he liked to sit naked in his window.
Speaker 2:Well, who doesn't? I guess, and then the second episode. We did Oprah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just silence Oprah.
Speaker 2:You know, she's.
Speaker 1:Oprah, she's fine.
Speaker 2:She's fine. Edgar Allan Poe, king Charles.
Speaker 1:You love, king Charles.
Speaker 2:I do love the royal. You love the Brits, I do.
Speaker 1:That's why you like that Land Rover. I do it's British.
Speaker 2:British yeah Times why you like that Land Rover. I do. It's British British yeah Times. Get the beautiful new Land Rover outside.
Speaker 1:Not new, it's a 2023. A Defender.
Speaker 2:How come you don't have a license plate?
Speaker 1:They won't give me one.
Speaker 2:No shit, it's not legal, they told me.
Speaker 1:I got an update because I bought it from Carvana.
Speaker 2:Oh, and it's been a while.
Speaker 1:I researched the shit out of trying to find the one I wanted and that's where I found it, and I bought cars from there before and it was a good experience. This one was so-so. They kind of jerking me around saying they had it, then they didn't have it. I drove all the way down, was about halfway there and they told me, oh, it's not going to be there until Monday, and I day and I'm like bullshit. And then turns out that was in transit. Anyway, it all worked out, but they were working on getting my registration completed and they said now it might not be until the end of November. So who can drive around with a paper plate that long? Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:You're going to get pulled over.
Speaker 1:I hope so. Anyway, what was the after the After that?
Speaker 2:was another popular one called Cartoon Duos.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like Fred and Barney Fred and.
Speaker 2:Barney, and who were the other ones, garfield and Odie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Phlegm and Phlegm.
Speaker 2:That was very popular. Who's Phlegm and Phlegm? People do like those. I don't know who are Phlegm and Phlegm.
Speaker 1:I don't know, isn't that when we fired Phillip, our production assistant, because he didn't know?
Speaker 2:Other cartoon duos we probably did. I'm so excited to see if I have it here.
Speaker 1:Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd.
Speaker 2:Here it is. Yeah, garfield, odie, smurfs More than a duo. Barney, I like Barney, I can't do it. He was always so positive. I like Barney, I can't do it.
Speaker 1:He was always so positive, I know.
Speaker 2:Usually yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know, did we do Charlie Brown Snoopy? I don't remember that.
Speaker 2:I don't think we did, but we should have. That's a whole thing. You can do a whole thing on Peanuts. I'll put it on the list.
Speaker 1:We've got to do a Halloween episode coming up.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, then we had. We talked about Walt Disney. I thought he was going to be a dick, but he wasn't Turned out, he's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a heroic color.
Speaker 2:I mean, he was a white male in the you know 30s, 40s and 50s.
Speaker 1:He was who he was at the time.
Speaker 2:Then Bob Hope. I don't know why we chose Bob Hope Real estate mogul. Do people even know?
Speaker 1:who Bob Hope is anymore, but he had some affairs. But he was kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:He was kind of a scandalous fella, you know, you think he's just a guy having some specials and entertaining the troops overseas, but no, he was more than that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and his wife, even though she knew he was messing around, quite often just supported him. That's my Bobby.
Speaker 2:Well, some people don't care or don't mind, I should say. I think Dave Grohl's wife is feeling otherwise.
Speaker 1:So fill me in on everything there.
Speaker 2:Well, all I know is that Dave Grohl had a daughter out of wedlock.
Speaker 1:Are those new glasses? They're cheaters. Every time you come here, you have different glasses. It's because they're always cheaters.
Speaker 2:I like those. Oh, thank you yeah they're red. They're red. Yes, Not Sally Chessie Raphael Red, Remember her.
Speaker 1:I do. She had baby red glasses. That's another good topic. Ricky Lake, sally Chessie, phil Donahue.
Speaker 2:Remember that guy. He just recently died. Oh RIP Phil.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait Okay, dave Grohl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. Child on a wedlock, that's all I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like for a rock star? Just one. But I guess he was. What is he like? The family man of grunge, or?
Speaker 2:something he was.
Speaker 1:I was so disappointed in him, are you and?
Speaker 2:his mother. I'm not glad she died, but I'm glad she's not around to see that Well, she knows, I'm sure. Because she would have been very disappointed in you, David, if you were listening All right Enough about Dave Grohl, who I still like.
Speaker 1:And I would check out his Hot Ones episode, by the way. Oh really, it's like doing a shot with every wing he eats.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's how he got somebody pregnant so then we talked about Cher, which I believe was you Do, you believe in love. I was going to say I think that's the only time I sang on the show. I didn't sing that.
Speaker 1:I can't remember which one I sang. That's a dynamic duo.
Speaker 2:Cher, sonny and Cher, yeah yeah, they were kings and queens of the early 60s. She was a hero yeah.
Speaker 1:She was wasn 60s. She was a hero. Yeah, she was, wasn't she? She's a hero, yeah, she is she's cool She'd take my shit.
Speaker 2:No, she's.
Speaker 1:Cher yeah. The world bows to Cher the Mask we talked about the Mask because of Cher, great movie, fantastic movie.
Speaker 2:She's in a couple great movies. What's that other one about Bone? No, well, I mean, it's fine. No, she was a supporting cast to, I believe, meryl Streep, and it was about that woman who was the whistleblower on the nuclear place, what was it called? Silkwood? And Cher was in that movie.
Speaker 1:I believe you, she was really good. Was she in Witches of Eastwick?
Speaker 2:She was yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And that's my movie too. Okay, after Cher kind of the same thing. We talked about Albert Einstein.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I like him.
Speaker 1:He's all right. Yeah, yeah, familiar with him.
Speaker 2:He's kind of smart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, real smart.
Speaker 2:And then we did an episode Obscurity in the Spotlight, what which I think we just picked. What?
Speaker 1:was it.
Speaker 2:It's titled Obscurity in the Spotlight.
Speaker 1:That's something. Yeah, I generated that title. It must have.
Speaker 2:I liked it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I chose the Michael Fagan who is the guy who broke into the fucking palace.
Speaker 2:Oh, another British thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's all right. Everything else is American, so that's okay. You know, throw some more stuff in there, wait.
Speaker 2:And I can't remember who you picked.
Speaker 1:I don't either, I don't so it wasn't very memorable. No, but I do remember that guy breaking in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a fascinating story. Yeah, but I do remember that guy breaking in. Yeah, it was a fascinating story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like sneaking onto the golf course, and peeking out of the bushes with a gun Not good, get you in big trouble.
Speaker 2:That gets you in a lot of trouble. Yeah, what are? Fucking people thinking no matter what side of the fence you're on you can't do that stuff, you can't do that, no, but people keep doing it.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 2:Okay, so after Obscurity we did PT Burnham.
Speaker 1:That was a fun one. He's interesting. That was really interesting actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was very interesting. Another interesting one that we did was AI Speaking of, and then, going along with AI, we did UFOs after.
Speaker 1:I love UFOs.
Speaker 2:I do too they have a smooth ride. Do they?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I hear that Probably.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, so we're going to hit some turbulence on this UFO. You never hear that. No, you don't hear that, and then we talked about another UFO, johnny Depp.
Speaker 1:Johnny Depp Coming to the aid of Taylor Swift recently.
Speaker 2:Oh, has he Yep, because she needs people sticking up for her.
Speaker 1:Well, he's basically saying why are people bashing on I'm paraphrasing bashing on a woman who built her own fortune instead of being handed to her, who went up through the ranks, became a billionaire when some guy tried to steal her music, decided I'm going to re-record all my music and make it mine, which she did, and I don't know. We did an episode, obviously.
Speaker 2:We did do an episode on Taylor Swift too.
Speaker 1:And I don't know. I even think I got my wife likes her more now. I don't know. She just actually is a straight up kind of person.
Speaker 2:She is, she is and she's another, cher, she doesn't take shit. You gonna do that. Alright, go ahead.
Speaker 1:That was cool, that Johnny Depp kind of said, hey, you know, but anyway, the Johnny Depp thing did we get into his whole. Yeah, we did didn't we?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did. Okay, we don't have to bash it, let's not.
Speaker 1:Actually he's fun to party with.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I would think so. I don't know if he's partying anymore.
Speaker 1:He probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2:I hope he's toned it down a bit. Yeah, I mean he's old, but he's like my age. Then we did a Thanksgiving spectacular. I don't know if that was spectacular.
Speaker 1:We talked about food, family, family functions.
Speaker 2:And then we did a show about Rush the Canadian band we did.
Speaker 1:You had some friends that were quite interested in that.
Speaker 2:Yes, they did like the Rush. I learned a lot about Rush.
Speaker 1:I did too.
Speaker 2:I don't love all of their music, but, holy cow, they have a huge library of music too. But, man, you put on 2112 and I am ready to go to a keg party like.
Speaker 1:I'm a teenager, you and Johnny Depp.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that would be fun. Then we had a Christmas special, then we had a New Year's special.
Speaker 1:That's all we do. Are specials? Yes, it is.
Speaker 2:And then the Crunchy Chronicles of Cereal, your favorite Mm-hmm. Now we're into season two.
Speaker 1:Here we are.
Speaker 2:And then Pablo.
Speaker 1:Picasso hey, he kind of was a dick.
Speaker 2:He kind of was a dick yeah.
Speaker 1:But he's Pablo Picasso. It's Picasso. Love or hate his art.
Speaker 2:You hate his art. I said even if you love or hate his art.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure you said you hate his art. I'm just kidding, I don't hate his art.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure you said you hate his art.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding. I don't hate it, but I don't get all the hoopla about it. The Cuba stuff that he stole from African-American art.
Speaker 2:Whatever, hey, okay, it's on you, pablo. Yep, then we did an interesting one that I learned so much about caves.
Speaker 1:Caving Spelunking, spelunking, spelunking.
Speaker 2:See you remember that I do. Yeah, spelunky. And then we talked about another Abe, which is Courtney Love.
Speaker 1:I'm afraid to say anything about Courtney Love.
Speaker 2:Why Do you think she could come and kick your ass? I?
Speaker 1:think she probably would. Even if I said nice stuff, she might kick my ass.
Speaker 2:She might.
Speaker 1:I think she probably would, even if I said nice stuff, she might kick my ass, she might. I think she just likes to fight. See, right now I'm wondering if she's going to hear this she's I don't know, I think in the end, we decided she was a hero. I think we had to.
Speaker 2:Because we don't want her to kick her ass Right. Then we talked about aquariums.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did. Why didn't we pick that?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I like it where it is.
Speaker 1:They're fascinating and we found out, the biggest one is in Japan. Correct, like in a big shopping center or?
Speaker 2:something, maybe the world's largest was. I don't know I'd have to go again. I can't remember, but I feel like I learned a lot.
Speaker 1:It's silly that we don't remember.
Speaker 2:No, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1:That was cool, though that was a cool one. Then we talked about Stephen King, the King of Horror.
Speaker 2:That's a guy that don't give a shit In a good way. Yes, he's going to tell you. When somebody shot at Trump the first time, he said well, you made these guns legal in this county where he got shot in. Pennsylvania. So what do you think is going to?
Speaker 1:happen and stop pissing people off.
Speaker 2:Well, that too.
Speaker 1:I'll shut up, I'm sorry. Well, no, anybody. It's like anybody. If you're out there running your fucking mouth all the time, what do you think is going to happen? Sooner or later, someone's going to come up to you in the grocery store and smack you with a patch of bacon or something. You're like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was imagining they were going to hit like with a French loaf of bread.
Speaker 1:I couldn't think of anything.
Speaker 2:I like the pound of bacon better. Then we talked about the mafia, which we could do another whole thing on the mafia. Maybe that was Cassidy's favorite.
Speaker 1:Those guys not nice. They do heroic things for the communities that they're trying to dominate.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:But I love the mafia Wink wink. I don't want them coming after me either.
Speaker 2:The Polish mafia especially, I think. Just the movies that they generated almost make them a hero. Yeah, the same, true. Then we talked about ghosts, always interesting. Then we talked about Taylor Swift and weddings and bookstores.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And then amusement parks, and then serial killers, and then Sesame Street serial killers, no, just Sesame Street.
Speaker 1:Wow, we went from serial killers to Sesame Street.
Speaker 2:We did Boom, I like that Turn the page, mm-hmm. Turn the page.
Speaker 1:Turn the page.
Speaker 2:Wait. That being said, all those topics, listeners, we will take into consideration any topic that you can email us at heroordick2023 at gmailcom.
Speaker 1:Or.
Speaker 2:I think now too Hero or Dick 2023 at gmailcom Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, or I think now too, if you go to our Buzzsprout site for Hero or Dick, excuse me you are able to messages directly from that site. Oh, I think there is a link that says text us or messages, and you can click that and so you don't have to worry about, you know, sharing your email or sharing your phone number or oh, whatever.
Speaker 2:So we're not going to share it with anybody. But no, yeah, we've got no friends.
Speaker 1:No, we don't have anybody, don't even have any listeners but no, 513 downloads, not huge, but whatever, we appreciate every one of those downloads we do, and we obviously aren't doing this for money. We do it for fun, we do, and hopefully that comes up. Yeah, kate said when we started this if it's not fun, we're not doing it. So when it becomes work, we're not doing it, true that. So stay away from us Apple and YouTube and other production companies.
Speaker 2:We could still have fun if somebody paid us. That's true. I'm not saying that no.
Speaker 1:I get it. Well, we're at your favorite, 31 minutes. Do you want to talk about any more things?
Speaker 2:I don't have a fast five, do you?
Speaker 1:No, we can make one up though. Ready Fishing.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love to fish, hunting Not as much. Oh, I love to fish, yeah hero Hunting. Not as much. Now why? Because you're killing a fish, but I don't want to kill a deer.
Speaker 1:It's okay to eat fish because fish don't have any feelings. Didn't Kurt Cobain say that in a song?
Speaker 2:It's because Kurt Cobain said it doesn't make it true. Are you serious? Ask for it, mate. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I got three more Ready.
Speaker 2:Ready.
Speaker 1:Movie theater popcorn.
Speaker 2:Oh, such a hero. All right, like you could have it. I save myself when I'm going to the movies. I can't have movie theater popcorn when I go to the movies. I might not go. That's true. I don't care what movie it is either, and, like during the Oppenheimer, I knew it was what a great movie and it was three hours long. So I got this giant fucking pop.
Speaker 1:You had to get your own seat for the popcorn.
Speaker 2:I almost did this giant pop or soda.
Speaker 1:Soda I mean.
Speaker 2:I had to pace myself. Did you, yeah, it worked out okay though.
Speaker 1:I do that Like if I buy a snack and there's some noisy asshole next to me wrinkling their bag, chewing with their mouth open. I have to eat my stuff while they eat theirs, so I don't hear them.
Speaker 2:Psycho, I know. So yeah, movie theater popcorn, big hero, not for the waistline, no.
Speaker 1:You can eat that shit. Even if you come from a big seven-course meal and you're stuffed, you still want to eat when we feed you popcorn. Yeah, you still want popcorn, and they ask the dumb question do you want butter on it?
Speaker 2:What, what? Jenna used to work at the movie theater in Thomas State and she said, Mom, when they ask you, do you want powder? On that you can't say hell yeah.
Speaker 1:That's why not? Yeah, load me up.
Speaker 2:Don't let me have any fun.
Speaker 1:Full service pumps at the gas station.
Speaker 2:I don't. I never go to them because I don't know where they are, but I think they're really good for older people.
Speaker 1:They make me uneasy.
Speaker 2:Do they? Do you feel like you have to tip the person?
Speaker 1:I feel like I tip everybody. That's like a sickness. I don't know how to stop it.
Speaker 2:I don't either. And where do the tips end? Do you tip, do you not, do? I give you a tip.
Speaker 1:How much are they getting? Should I?
Speaker 2:give you a tip today I how much are they getting paid?
Speaker 2:Should I give you a tip today? I don't know, I don't know. I'll take a few bucks. So when we were in England, the tip is included, but is it? Yes, because we had a restaurant by us, a bar restaurant. It was fabulous Carpenter's Arms or the builder's arms, and Tom the manager there was fabulous to us, and so we always tried to tip him like big fat Americans, and he's like you don't have to tip. We got it in here and we're like well, don't you want the extra tip? He goes we get paid a living wage, so we don't need your tips.
Speaker 1:Well, they took them no that's cool.
Speaker 2:But he said you don't have to, it's built in.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:All right, I kind of liked that too, because it was always less than I usually tip. How much do you?
Speaker 1:tip Too much I always tip too much.
Speaker 2:Too much too, because I feel like, oh my God, this waitress is working a Saturday. The girls and I went out to a place and you know, it was a lady my age or older, I'm like. Here she is working on a Saturday the whole day.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you feel I don't know when do you stop? How do you?
Speaker 2:Then who do you yeah?
Speaker 1:And how much do you give?
Speaker 2:And I'm tipping this person and maybe they're a good waitress, Because I'm going to get a haircut- too.
Speaker 1:I always give her a tip yeah, yeah, haircut ends up it's a $30 haircut. It costs you $50.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't tip that well.
Speaker 1:Oh, you don't.
Speaker 2:Okay, me either.
Speaker 1:There's a whole other episode too, and I have another one on my fast five. It's just slipping my mind. What the heck was it? I just had it. Oh oh, radio stations, good old fashioned AM FM radio stations, you know, like the one I think we have one down here, yet Instead of Sirius XM.
Speaker 2:Well, I have to say I think once you go to Sirius you can't go back.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Because I tried. And you listen to the radio and not only are there ads, ads, ads, ads, which is fine, but then it's the same ad. I listen to three songs, then it's the same ad, same ad, same ad.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I don't like that.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, siriusxm does, if I want to listen to talk, then I just listen to talk.
Speaker 1:Right. But it's kind of like there's no choice. It's SiriusXM.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was. I mean there's Amazon Music but then you have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, xm Radio and Sirius were different.
Speaker 2:But they combined, didn't they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now they're a big conglomerate. Gosh. Yeah, you have.
Speaker 2:Amazon Music. You have Spotify. You have Amazon Music, you have Spotify, you have. What's the other one, Pandora?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know you have all of those.
Speaker 1:But you've got to do the sync with your car.
Speaker 2:You still get ads on those Right.
Speaker 1:Sirius XM. Why can't I buy a car with or maybe you can I shouldn't say that Like with all those things in it, all those apps? I guess because they don't have partnerships with certain car makers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think mine just comes with.
Speaker 1:Sirius.
Speaker 2:In fact I got it free. I was paying for it and I got it free. So I called them and they said, oh well, we'll just put it on free for six months and then at the end of six months we'll just mark down that you already paid. And it keeps going and I think for you know, it's $6.99 a month.
Speaker 2:Serious, that's cheap, that is a good deal to not listen to ads, and I also have an app on my phone, so at home I just pop on whatever and there is a shit ton to listen to yeah. Man, why are they sponsoring us? Look at them, listen to me kissing their ass Nope.
Speaker 1:I got one more shot at a sponsorship ready.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe two. So I was getting my teeth cleaned at Thunder Bay Family Dentistry.
Speaker 2:That's where I go, Dr Jack Beal.
Speaker 1:Yes, I really enjoy going to the dentist there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but don't go. Okay, I went Tuesday. Tuesday is Wednesday.
Speaker 1:Wednesday is a golf day, isn't it? Maybe, but he listens to SiriusXM.
Speaker 2:He listens to the 80s station. Well, I went there and I'm like what the hell you got country going. She said country Tuesdays.
Speaker 1:I'm like well, don't make my appointment for Tuesday anymore.
Speaker 2:No offense to country music. Some of it I love, but I would rather I know going in there Jack Beal loves the 80s rock band.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2:The hair bands, he said so I go in there.
Speaker 1:Ironically, and we're talking about Julian being down at School of Midland and he recommends I mean, you've been here because you've traveled the world and Midland, I guess, is a big popular destination for world travelers such as yourself but he said to go to the Molasses downtown Midland. First of all, downtown Midland kicks ass. It's cute and the Molasses is a barbecue joint and it was fan-freaking-tastic.
Speaker 2:That sounds good.
Speaker 1:So thank you, Jack, For the recommendation. Yes, Ballyhoo.
Speaker 2:It's kind of funny that a dentist would give you a recommendation of molasses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't taste any molasses.
Speaker 2:I guess they did have a molasses barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1:Anyway, but if you go you don't have to get the two or three meat, just get the one single meat. Maybe.
Speaker 2:Did you overdo it? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyhow.
Speaker 2:Okay, Alright. Well, again, email us, text us or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, send a pigeon. Hand signals, smoke signals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we're up for any ideas.
Speaker 1:Okay At all. Well, thanks. Appreciate everybody who does listen and spread the word.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you, thanks, bye, bye.
