Hero or Dick
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2, Ep. 17, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
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Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! This time around, Kate and KJ chat about "The Rock." They explore his fascinating journey from wrestling royalty to Hollywood titan and delve into his multifaceted ventures, including his tequila brand and potential political dreams. But is The Rock all that he seems? Tune in to find out!
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~ Kate & KJ
Dwayne Johnson
Speaker 1Okay, welcome to your. Dick and this is Grumpy.
Speaker 2And it's season two.
Speaker 1Episode 17. Wow, and we're broadcasting once again from Horsefeather Studio. Oh, by the way, you know anybody who wants to buy any art. I think I might have convinced her to maybe think about selling some art.
Speaker 2You should open for the holiday season.
Speaker 1We should Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2You get some holiday. I don't see any real. Oh, that could be holiday.
Speaker 1Well, just gifts for people. Yeah, I would like that there is lots of nice stuff. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Our mascot is from here.
Speaker 1It is.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love that picture.
Speaker 1I forgot that you yeah, I love that picture. I forgot that you picked it. I did, I wasn't pimping it.
Speaker 2I don't even see it now though.
Speaker 1I don't know where it is.
Speaker 2Well, don't let her sell that one, I'll buy it. You're making t-shirts.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm making all the swag.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't see it. How did things go with that other movie that was going to be?
Speaker 2filmed there. Oh yeah, they filmed it at the Centennial. It is a movie about two young Jewish kids looking for a lost family heirloom, menorah Cool I can't think of the name of it, but it went well.
Speaker 1Second movie filmed.
Speaker 2Second movie filmed at the Centennial In Alpena at her building. Not in Alpena, I mean probably there's other movies.
Speaker 1Yeah, Die Hard. Remember Back in the day.
Speaker 2Yeah, that was so long ago, though, and they filmed at the airport only yeah. So what I like about this recent movie and the Harsin's Island movie is that they filmed all over Alpena. If you are from the area or if you have ever visited the area, just look for the landmarks.
Speaker 1I saw the trailer and I was like holy shit, I know that, I know that, yeah, I was like oh cool, yeah, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2So so that, yeah, that happened, that's a done deal.
Speaker 1What else do we want to talk about before we talk about the serious stuff?
Speaker 2Oh, what deal? What else do we want to talk about before we talk about the serious stuff? Oh that, what's going on in the sky? Oh, the northern lights keep checking. People keep checking. Look up the gorgeous pictures yesterday from all over northern michigan and I hear they are prevalent way south of us, like north carolina and ohio. I mean you have to get out of the city. You can't have the ambient light for sure.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2But yes, check them out.
Speaker 1I'm a stargazer, usually in the morning letting the dogs out, just stand out there. It's nice. So the topic is what?
Speaker 2Is Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
Speaker 1Well, this is hero, we're done.
Speaker 2Next, Do you have a crush on him? I don't think you can find anything.
Speaker 1No, can't find anything bad about the guy, except he might be a big phony. He seems phony to me.
Speaker 2Uh-oh, why does he seem phony to you? I don't know who acts like that all the time. Nobody's that. Nobody's that nice, nobody's that chiseled.
Speaker 1He's an alien. He's probably really chiseled. He's an alien.
Speaker 2I've been chiseling at the candy drawer, I know. So he's only 52? Yeah.
Speaker 1His first wrestling name. What was it? Flex Gavana.
Speaker 2I love the wrestling names.
Speaker 1He played college football.
Speaker 2Of course he did, for the University of Miami. But then what I read said that he didn't really play that much.
Speaker 1I don't know why wouldn't you play him? I don't know, maybe he's a crappy football player, maybe I mean.
Speaker 2I guess you could be a good wrestler and not be a good football player. Played football for University of Miami, florida and Miami.
Speaker 1Yep.
Speaker 2University of Miami.
Speaker 1Miami. They won a championship in 1991.
Speaker 2But then in 95, he was undrafted.
Speaker 1You know he never went to the NFL, he didn't even yeah, he didn't make the NFL.
Speaker 2I wonder if he would have made the NFL life's going to change.
Speaker 1Yeah, he could have been poor compared to what he is. Did you get his net worth?
Speaker 2I did not but I bet it's like a zillion dollars. He's in every movie. It's like the law. Now, okay, did you put?
Speaker 1The Rock in there. Yeah, we did oh that was the one bad thing I thought about him, but we'll get to it. It wasn't bad.
Speaker 2He did sign after college. He did sign with the Calgary Stampeders.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2But he was cut the first season, yep, wah, wah, terrible.
Speaker 1Man, you played in the Canadian League didn't you, Farrell I? Did. Yeah, Well, I managed Hockey Hockey ball team that played hockey.
Speaker 2I did. I love Canada.
Speaker 1Yeah, eh.
Speaker 2Uh, love them, they are not dicks at all. You know, he's a third generation wrestler. Well, is he the third? He is the third, so he has a daughter who wrestles.
Speaker 1I know Really. Yeah, You're making it up.
Speaker 2I am not.
Speaker 1His grandfather, the high chief, was a wrestler.
Speaker 2That was his name, the high chief wrestler Mm-hmm. His name was Peter.
Speaker 1Mavia.
Speaker 2But I knew his dad was.
Speaker 1Rocky Johnson.
Speaker 2Rocky, mm-hmm, that's weird.
Speaker 1Is it. Drop the Y Now, you're just the rock.
Speaker 2Oh, oh, I didn't even put that together. Apparently, I have a rock in my head.
Speaker 1You know, going back to the canadian football league, there, when he uh got chit-canned he started, um, his own production company called seven bucks productions and is it still in production? Probably not, but he started it because he only had seven dollars left oh, very clever.
Speaker 2see, he's resourceful, he's resourceful, he's resourceful.
Speaker 1Yeah, he is.
Speaker 2And his dad was Rocky Johnson. I didn't get his mother's name. I just wrote she was Samoan. Well, that's rude of me. I'm sure she has a name.
Speaker 1Yeah, probably.
Speaker 2Sorry, Mrs Johnson.
Speaker 1Isn't that a song? Sorry, Ms Johnson.
Speaker 2I don't think so. It is now, though I'm going to write her a song. Sorry, ms Johnson, I don't think so. It is now, though I'm going to write her a song. So let's see what else. So of course he was a wrestler before he was an actor. He was a wrestler for a long time. His uncle was a wrestler. His mom's adoptive dad was a wrestler. Of course his dad was a wrestler. His maternal grandmother was a wrestler promoter. Course, his dad was a wrestler. His maternal grandmother was a wrestler promoter.
Speaker 1You gotta be kidding. You're making this up. That's a long line. It's in his lineage.
Speaker 2Why wouldn't he be a wrestler, right, you know, he kind of had to be. And now he has a daughter who's 23. Her name is Simone. She wrestles. Guess what her wrestler name is. It's kind of boring, actually, simone. No, it's Ava Rain.
Speaker 1Ava Rain.
Speaker 2Ava Rain, ava Rain, ava Rain on you.
Speaker 1Well, that's cool, good for her.
Speaker 2Yeah, so how long did he wrestle? Did you find that out?
Speaker 1It wasn't until 25. I don't know.
Speaker 2He was in the WWF for eight years, but I think he wrestled for longer than that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1Um, what was I going to say?
Speaker 2And his biggest wrestling feud was with Stone Cold, steve Austin.
Speaker 1Oh.
Speaker 2Is he a football?
Speaker 1player too.
Speaker 2Probably. I mean they are.
Speaker 1I saw that guy the other day. Oh wait, no, I'm thinking of the other one.
Speaker 2You're thinking of John Cena Goldberg? Who, goldberg? There's no Jewish wrestlers.
Speaker 1Goldberg, I swear to God. Anyway, go ahead Now who he's fighting with.
Speaker 2He was, that was his feud.
Speaker 1Oh, his nemesis, or whatever.
Speaker 2Feud. I'm saying in air quotes Like you and Cher. Hulk Hogan the Hurricane and John Cena was his other. You know, john Cena, I love John Cena. He's not a dick, john Cena, I love John Cena. He's not a dick, he might be.
Speaker 1No, he's not. He seems phony too.
Speaker 2No, he's not. He speaks like three languages.
Speaker 1Phony below. He speaks three languages. Google it I will. Maybe he uses Duolingo.
Speaker 2Maybe, but John was his nemesis. And then they paired up together and conquered the wrestling world.
Speaker 1You're a big wrestling fan.
Speaker 2I had my Hulk Hogan days. I did.
Speaker 1Did you like the Ultimate Warrior?
Speaker 2I don't know. I was like the era that I watched it. It was Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1Andre the Giant.
Speaker 2Andre the Giant Junkyard Dog Cassidy had the Giant Junkyard Dog. Cassidy had a puzzle of Junkyard Dog who gets a puzzle of wrestling being Junkyard Dog.
Speaker 1I wish we had it now. Cassidy, what about Randy Macho man Savage? Randy Macho man Savage, yeah.
Speaker 2Of course, yeah. So that was my short abbreviated era of wrestling. That's pretty good. Abbreviated era of wrestling that's pretty good. It was okay.
Speaker 1He's a 10-time world champ in the WWE Wow.
Speaker 2I don't know, does that sound like a big deal?
Speaker 1It's gotta be, you know.
Speaker 2One thing I wanted to say about college before we got too far out from it was as a teen. Dwayne was a little troubled, got in some trouble.
Speaker 1Oh good.
Speaker 2And he talked about depression and trouble. But he got his shit together and went to college.
Speaker 1Nice.
Speaker 2And then he was an advocate for mental health and for teens. You know getting a second chance, so that's good on him.
Speaker 1Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2What else?
Speaker 1He's got a foundation. You know you're talking about this good stuff and you're saying about the mental health, but he also has a charity foundation focused on terminally ill children.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, Is it him who's granted more make-a-wishes than anyone, so yeah, I would have to. Let's just say, yeah, he did yeah, it was him so that was. That's a big deal. I mean to give back because not everybody does that. Everybody says they do or makes a flurry in production and publicity when they do something. But I think he does it all the time, just not always under the camera.
Speaker 1Right, speaking of camera, he's in the Guinness Book of World Records because of the camera. He has the world record for taking the most selfies in three minutes 105 selfies in three minutes.
Speaker 2Okay, that kind of makes me not like him.
Speaker 1He did it at the premiere, but he did it with fans. Oh, when he was in the movie San Andreas.
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Speaker 2Alt. I don't know, maybe it was just San Andreas. Did you know he has the star of the Hollywood Walk of Fame?
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2It's true.
Speaker 1Who's he next to? I don't know. They do alphabetically no.
Speaker 2I think they just throw him where he can now. He didn't get it until 22, so How's yours doing Keeping it polished up?
Speaker 1I have to do something first.
Speaker 2I would never put my foot in there. Where In the Hollywood Walk of Fame, put your foot in the mud?
Speaker 1I would never put my foot in there.
Speaker 2Where In the Hollywood Walk of Fame, put your foot in the mud?
Speaker 1Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2Well, my feet are too big and ugly. Yeah, whatever, leaving Sasquatch print.
Speaker 1No, thank you.
Speaker 2You didn't talk about his signature smell. I didn't, for a reason.
Speaker 1His favorite, cologne, is called Creed.
Speaker 2Maybe that's why his catchphrase is can you smell?
Speaker 1what the rock is cooking that was his catchphrase.
Speaker 2I wonder what it smells like.
Speaker 1Creed.
Speaker 2What does Creed smell like? I mean like, is it an earthy tone or a woodsy tone?
Speaker 1Or like a sweaty boxer Citrus. Yeah, like a wrestler sweat. I don't know, I'm just. This is what the production crew gave me to read. Nathan Better notes please.
Speaker 2Did you know he is the co-owner of the United Football League.
Speaker 1Nathan is.
Speaker 2No, Nathan doesn't do jack.
Speaker 1I noticed.
Speaker 2I would believe that and he also has the Seven Bucks Production Company, so he must still have it. Tequila, terramana, what he owns, a tequila.
Speaker 1He's a booze bag.
Speaker 2People make big money off tequila.
Speaker 1We should make a tequila. Look at Sammy Hager. I don't even drink.
Speaker 2That's probably how they do it Cabo.
Speaker 1Labo. They don't even drink it, cabo Labo.
Speaker 2Oh wow, Somebody else. Who else had a?
Speaker 1big distillery. Yeah, snoop's got wine, right, does he oh?
Speaker 2yeah, he does, dave.
Speaker 1Matthews, ben, have you had Dreaming Tree?
Speaker 2Is it a wine?
Speaker 1Yeah, no, I have, but not recently, obviously, it was like five years ago, but that wine is top-notch man Dreaming Tree.
Speaker 2Dave Matthews, he knows.
Speaker 1Yep, remember that time he was in that movie and picked up a coconut with his butt cheeks. Who? Dave Matthews, dave Matthews, yeah.
Speaker 2What movie is this? It was an.
Speaker 1Adam Sandler movie, of course With Jennifer Aniston. Oh, like recent and Nicole Kidman, it was a little while ago, it was a comedy.
Speaker 2I know what you're talking about. Huh, I'll have to talking about what?
Speaker 1was it Not Blended?
Speaker 2That is not what I took out of that movie.
Speaker 1Just go with it.
Speaker 2Just go with it. It was just kind of a Tuesday night Netflix movie, but I must have dozed during that part.
Speaker 1You're going to probably rush and watch that tonight.
Speaker 2Let's see what else. Of course, he has a YouTube channel and his alarm clock the Rock we're talking about now. Remember him.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2His alarm clock app has over one million downloads.
Speaker 1Does it really?
Speaker 2Yeah, not by me.
Speaker 1No, would have been one million and one.
Speaker 2Do you want to wake up to the Rock? No, no, I mean, you might want to Look at you thinking about it.
Speaker 1Oh, nuts, you know he's going to be the president.
Speaker 2I wish.
Speaker 1He said he seriously would consider.
Speaker 2Okay, I would seriously consider voting for him, depending on who's running against him.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2In the meantime, he's an actor Highest grossing movies in the past five years. I just made that fact up, but I'm pretty sure it's true $2 billion globally for Fast and Furious and Jumanji. And his first movie was Tooth Fairy. Oh no, but good guess, the Mummy Returns, not the Mummy, the Mummy Returns.
Speaker 1The Mummy? Well, the first one was Brendan Fraser.
Speaker 2Right, so the Mummy.
Speaker 1Returns.
Speaker 2Well, he just made a movie and won a bunch of awards for it. Oh, the Whale right, yeah, sorry, brendan, he's not a bad actor. I didn't think so. I like some movies.
Speaker 1What's that one Blast from the Past?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? Oh, the weird movie. So, the first leading role was in Tooth Fairy. The Scorpion King in 2002.
Speaker 1You don't really want to talk about Tooth Fairy? I guess not.
Speaker 2I'm sure it's a wonderful movie, did you?
Speaker 1see Jumanji.
Speaker 2I'm sure it's a wonderful movie Was he nominated for an Academy Award for Tooth Fairy?
Speaker 1I don't think so. I did see Jumanji and I really liked it.
Speaker 2I thought that version of it was really good. Wasn't Jack Black in it?
Speaker 1Yep, he was, and.
Speaker 2Chris Rock no. Kevin Hart Oops, and a woman I love, kevin.
Speaker 1Hart Oops.
Speaker 2And a woman I love, kevin Hart.
Speaker 1My kids gave me such shit because I said I like Kevin Hart, I like him.
Speaker 2He's scrappy.
Speaker 1Who Kevin Hart? Yeah, he's funny.
Speaker 2He's scrappy.
Speaker 1You ever see the Ringer Wedding, ringer, uh-uh the.
Speaker 2Wedding Ringer what Put it down? Watch it tonight. Okay, write it down.
Speaker 1You know the guy who does the voice for Olaf you know, I tried to watch that movie this week. What Pudding Ringer.
Speaker 2No Frozen.
Speaker 1Oh.
Speaker 2I didn't care for it.
Speaker 1Well, you might be a little past.
Speaker 2Well, you know what? I watched Disney's Cinderella right before it.
Speaker 1You did A lovely movie yeah, cinderella, right before it you did it was.
Speaker 2Sunday afternoon and I put it on and just let it roll. There was no drinking involved, but there could have been. I should have done a shot every time they went. Cinderella.
Speaker 1Cinderella.
Speaker 2What's that movie called the Ringer?
Speaker 1The Wedding Ringer Gotta put wedding in there. There you go. Oh man, that's so funny.
Speaker 2Okay, so back to the Rock.
Speaker 1Yeah, movies you were talking about.
Speaker 2I think I tapped out my knowledge on that.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2But he does have a new movie out and it looked pretty good. It's called Red One, two words, red One, and they fight against Krampus. You know, krampus, the Santa, the opposite of Santa. Yeah, yeah, so that could be fun. Chris Evans, lucy Liu, really JK Simmons, the guy from the insurance commercials. Oh, the tough guy um, this is an old, bald guy oh, that's not him j, that's jk simmons oh, jk simmons from um he's invented a lot
Speaker 2of stuff yeah, that guy, um, so that's our new movie that's coming out, or his new movie that's coming out. And the only other fact that I have that we didn't get to was he has US slash Canadian citizenship because his dad was Canadian. That's a good thing to have. It is Especially in this day and age Can we get to. So look he could be president of U president of US or prime minister of Canada.
Speaker 1King of the world.
Speaker 2He could rule. I could do them both at the same time, and that would be.
Speaker 1North America would be a lock.
Speaker 2North America.
Speaker 1We'll check into it.
Speaker 2I'd hate to lose Justin Trudeau, though he's so dreamy.
Speaker 1Justin Trudeau yeah, doesn's so dreamy Justin Trudeau? Yeah, doesn't he have bad teeth?
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1I'm thinking of Hugh Grant. He just played a prime minister in a movie. He did play it in a. Love Actually, love Actually. That's a good movie.
Speaker 2That's the best Christmas movie.
Speaker 1Ever Tis the season, it's coming up.
Speaker 2I, I watch it year round, do you? Yeah, I do. I love when Emma Thompson thinks she's getting that necklace oh boy. And yet she gets CDs and she has to go in the bedroom and regroup. Better cry it Mm-hmm, oh my God Getting teared up.
Speaker 1Just thinking about it. It's tough being a woman.
Speaker 2Emma hang in there. Okay, Hi, Emma. So what do we say about Dwayne?
Speaker 1I don't know. It's only 20 minutes in.
Speaker 2What else you got about?
Speaker 1him. I don't know. I mean, there were a few things that he gets backlash for, but nothing serious. One thing is his cheat meals. He'll do videos about his cheat meals, meaning you know when you're not watching your diet during the, you know, because he works out a lot and he'll eat like a mountain of pancakes and show people you know, and so he's getting flack for that. But it's like have you seen the guy? Do you realize he works out every day, yeah.
Speaker 2If I eat a mountain of pancakes, I lay on the couch. But I'm guessing that he doesn't do that.
Speaker 1No, you know people. You've got to wonder. Hollywood people, musicians, famous people they get this. Why listen to people in Hollywood. What do they know? They don't know anything about politics. They don't know anything about anything. You're out of your fucking mind. Those people are up and at it before anybody in the world. They exercise, they take care of most people and they're fucking just like go, go, go go go.
Speaker 2They have to to keep that lifestyle. Yeah, I don't know, I wouldn't do it. I would never want to be famous like even the kind of unfamous person. Never want to be famous.
Speaker 1I don't want to switch gears too much, but I do it all the time, and I'll talk about your ex, jason Bateman.
Speaker 2He is totally my ex now.
Speaker 1He's got that new thing coming out. A lot of people are talking about it on.
Speaker 2Netflix. Think of him with a beard.
Speaker 1What.
Speaker 2With a beard. He's all bearded up.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's a drug addict in it.
Speaker 2He is for real, is he? Yeah, it's on Netflix.
Speaker 1It's coming out. He's just, they're just wrapping it. And Laura Linney from.
Speaker 2Ozark yeah, I love her.
Speaker 1She's.
Speaker 2And also from the holiday movie Love Actually.
Speaker 1Yes, I did. It's full circle, but anyway, they were talking about how Jason Bateman does that, like he's just nonstop and his wife is even like um honey, you know what's going on.
Speaker 2So um Is Ozarks on Netflix too.
Speaker 1I don't know if it's, it should still be, because it's a.
Speaker 2Netflix. Thing.
Speaker 1Have you watched it all?
Speaker 2No, son of a bitch, I need to. And then we're going to have a whole episode about maybe two About Ozarks.
Speaker 1Easily.
Speaker 2Do you want to contribute to my Netflix subscription?
Speaker 1Sure, okay, I'll give you my username and password that works. And he also got some flack. They said that his Black Adam movie that was supposed to be a major hit was a piece of crap. You know, and they said it was.
Speaker 2I don't think you can really. What did they say?
Speaker 1He pushed too much of his own creative control.
Speaker 2Here's what I think about that Did every book that Stephen King write a masterpiece? No, no, did every painting that Picasso do was a masterpiece?
Speaker 1You could ask Picasso. He'd say yes, remember, he was a dick, he was yeah.
Speaker 2But I say no, Pablo, no, yeah, Pablo, and you know if you do this massive body of work.
Speaker 1He's got a massive body how about like Tom Hanks you know all of his stuff.
Speaker 2I mean, yeah, most of it's good.
Speaker 1What did Tom Hanks do? That was bad.
Speaker 2Oh, ask Cassidy, she doesn't care for it.
Speaker 1Oh, she's home eating some wet cereal right now. Sorry, cassidy, you doesn't care for it. Oh, she's home eating some wet cereal right now, Sorry.
Speaker 2Cassidy, you can't say moist either. Moist, oh no, sorry, cassidy, I don't know what he. I like him, I enjoy his stuff.
Speaker 1That makes.
Speaker 2You know I didn't really like the man Called Ob. I never watched it.
Speaker 1See, that's a remake.
Speaker 2Well, I read the book and I didn't really like the book. But he has a new movie coming out with Robin Wright Penn. Yeah Well, she dropped the pen.
Speaker 1But they were in For a Skunk together, jenny.
Speaker 2Jenny.
Speaker 1Jenny, I don't know. There's other stuff, but it's really not that important. I think I'm going to watch Black Adam now, though, just because people panned it.
Speaker 2Yeah. So I say. So what you know, if you make 20 movies and one is like, oh, we don't like that one, Well, that's pretty good odds.
Speaker 1Right, and you know what? This is why I think the Rock's a hero, because he's probably listening to this too. I think he would do our podcast.
Speaker 2He probably would. I didn't think to ask him to do no.
Speaker 1Nathan, maybe we should ask before.
Speaker 2We assume he'll do it.
Speaker 1So you're going to say hero.
Speaker 2I would say overall hero yeah.
Speaker 1I mean.
Speaker 2I couldn't find anything that made him a dick. I think that some people might think he's a bit full of himself or what you know. Now, that's not even the right term, but arrogant a little bit, but he's the rock, I mean he kind of can be yeah if he doesn't have confidence in himself, who, what? His mom, his mom and dad, probably His family Parents have your back If they're good parents. They got your back.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Not everybody has that kind of parent FYI. But I bet the Rock's kids feel like he has their back.
Speaker 1Man. I didn't know he had so many wrestlers in his family.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's kind of weird, isn't it?
Speaker 1It's really cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, sure, I mean, everybody has a family dynasty, why not be wrestling? Yeah, so I call him a hero as well.
Speaker 1I do too, and so does Nathan, and now you have this list.
Speaker 2I do have a list and somebody, one of our loyal listeners, asked how many. So we've done 17 shows, oh, I'm sorry. Two seasons, 17 each.
Speaker 1We've done 34?.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what it adds up to it does. Out of all of those shows, how many do you think we said the people were dicks? Are you looking?
Speaker 1at one of them. I mean the list. How many are dicks Are you looking at?
Speaker 2one, I mean the list.
Speaker 1How many are dicks out of 34? 15.
Speaker 2Five.
Speaker 1Really.
Speaker 2Yeah, the first season everybody.
Speaker 1Only 15 out of 34.
Speaker 2Yeah, the first season some people were dickish, but overall they weren't dicks. You know, they did enough good that it wiped out the bad. Wow, who were the dicks? And AI could have went either way and some other people could have went either way, so I didn't count them as dicks.
Speaker 1Okay, just clear dicks. That's what we need.
Speaker 2That's weird. That's what we need clear dicks, that would. That's. That's weird. That's an art project okay so in season two we had pablo picasso, uh, the mafia, which they actually had some hero aspects because, we said we get a lot of movies and books out of them and they took care of their neighborhoods.
Speaker 1but but overall, and that guy showed up here telling us we had to save the air.
Speaker 2Overall, we would save the air dicks, although we'd love them, yeah, If they come here.
Speaker 1Bullish.
Speaker 2And weddings.
Speaker 1Yeah, you really don't like them. I don't. I love weddings. You love weddings? No, I don't.
Speaker 2No, nobody loves weddings. No, I shouldn't say that Some people live for weddings, but no, overall they're a dick. Amusement parks a couple good things about them, but not enough to make them not a dick.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2And the other one was an obvious serial killer. We said they were heroes. People would come and kill us.
Speaker 1Yeah, they would yeah. Pretty clear cut on that one. It is that one, pretty clear cut on that one it is.
Speaker 2That one's pretty clear cut In the first season, though I couldn't find any that were dicks. Johnny Depp, you know you kind of act like a dick depending on who you ask, but overall UFOs, I don't think they're dicks.
Speaker 1No, they're just experimenting. Ai scary, but not dicks yeah it's just scary because we're ignorant about it.
Speaker 2Right, right, you know Bob Hope. I thought he was going to be a big dick. Nope, and people don't even know who he is anymore.
Speaker 1He did some dickish things. He did, he did. He was Bob Hope.
Speaker 2But overall he was okay.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm. So that is the tally on that.
Speaker 1We've wow 34 episodes 34 episodes.
Speaker 2yeah, so if you're listening to this, send us your suggestions.
Speaker 1Nobody ever does except Cassidy. Cassidy does no, you have some friends that do.
Speaker 2I have a couple people email us. Yeah, yeah, the more the better. Mm-hmm, you can email us at.
Speaker 1Oh, heroordick2023 at gmailcom.
Speaker 2We take criticism we take. You can just unload on us if you need to.
Speaker 1Send us a recipe.
Speaker 2Send us a recipe.
Speaker 1Yeah, whatever I mean, if someone just wants to.
Speaker 2If someone wants to, I guess.
Speaker 1What do you?
Speaker 2think the recipe would be. I'm going to send those heroower dick people a recipe of.
Speaker 1I'm looking to make a gluten-free layered lemon cake. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2Okay, right there.
Speaker 1I mean, I have a recipe.
Speaker 2Well, you have Google, true, but if you have a better recipe, you can email it to us.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you've got some frequent flyer mires you want to throw our way, take those too.
Speaker 2Maybe we should do like a trip. What do you call that?
Speaker 1Vacation.
Speaker 2Well, that, but like an on-site Remote. Yeah, a remote field trip is what I was thinking.
Speaker 1Yeah we never did that. No, we're going to do the county fair. We didn't do that.
Speaker 2I wasn't going to go to the county fair.
Speaker 1Yeah, I brought it up, oh, okay. You never went to the county fair.
Speaker 2I don't think I agreed to it.
Speaker 1We were going to do something at your building.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, we still should.
Speaker 1That's really not remote Down the road.
Speaker 2Down the streets half a block away. Well, we'll have to think on that and if you guys have any ideas, send them to us.
Speaker 1I think that they want to see us on tape like video.
Speaker 2Oh, I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1Come on. They probably don't.
Speaker 2No, nobody wants to see us.
Speaker 1All right, sorry, that's too bad.
Speaker 2Okay, everybody.
Speaker 1Thanks for listening We'll talk.
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