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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2, Ep 18., Halloween
Hello, Listeners!
What’s the true essence of Halloween, you ask? Kate and KJ unravel its historical roots, from age-old traditions like "souling" to today’s thrill of trick-or-treating. Conversation meanders through the cobwebbed corridors of Halloween film classics to candy favorites. Join us for another episode of Hero or Dick1
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~ Kate & KJ
hello hey, everybody happy halloween happy halloween. This is our third or fourth take to get it started, because I don't know what I'm doing and richie took the day off halloween.
Speaker 1:It's halloween today it's halloween.
Speaker 2:We were talking about our therapy session that we have. We have usually a 20-minute therapy session together. Before we, before we start the real show yeah, and there's no reason to have a therapy session because we are very fortunate and have good lives.
Speaker 1:but it's funny how we I think that's what we determined at the end of the therapy session.
Speaker 2:Yes, we cured ourselves, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:We said it out loud Everything's fine.
Speaker 2:So if anybody wants a therapy session, you can stop by Horse Feather Studio. Yeah, every two weeks, probably on a Thursday around.
Speaker 1:Tuesday or Thursday, whatever, I don't know. We're not on a regular schedule anymore. We will be.
Speaker 2:Anyhow.
Speaker 1:It's Halloween.
Speaker 2:Halloween what's?
Speaker 1:your favorite part of Halloween.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Put me on. I don't know. It's changed over the years. It used to be mix a big stiff drink and watch scary movies all day. Then it changed to no, it was elementary school. Oh, I was drinking in elementary school. Oh yeah, I mean dressing up, going out. That usually made me anxious as a kid.
Speaker 1:Trick or treat is different now. Now it's trunk or treat because we don't want kids going to strangers' house.
Speaker 2:Sure no nuts. Keep the nuts out of your kid's mouth.
Speaker 1:No apples.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, oh, I see, because of a peanut allergy.
Speaker 2:We had a couple of those last year. I said that wrong.
Speaker 1:Peanut allergies. Anyway, the nuts thing, that's not what I meant, so you had people come to your door and you wanted to give them candy and they're like oh my God, stop. Is there any nuts in that?
Speaker 2:There was some like that, and there was also people that came with little babies that probably couldn't even eat candy.
Speaker 1:And the lady. We gave them candy and you know they're going to eat it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the lady said, oh, she doesn't like that type, and she reaches in and picks what she wants. And then we had grabbers like grabbing. So this year we're putting the candy cauldron. It's an actual witch's cauldron. Oh, nice, metal and iron, and we keep it behind us as they come up. Oh, and if they don't like it they can go fuck themselves. Sorry.
Speaker 1:Ma, the therapy's not working. It's really gotten out of hand, I think.
Speaker 2:What about you? What do you like?
Speaker 1:I like candy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure. What's your favorite go-to?
Speaker 1:I love an M&M.
Speaker 2:Just a classic M&M.
Speaker 1:Peanut M&M acceptable as well, but just M&Ms.
Speaker 2:Hmm, do you like caramel? No, caramel.
Speaker 1:I mean in certain circumstances.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:M&Ms.
Speaker 2:Oh the caramel M&Ms.
Speaker 1:No, oh really no. No, fuck with the M&M, it's Go with it. I mean, I try all the espresso and the mint and the whatever.
Speaker 2:The mint are okay. Yeah, they're all right, but just leave it chocolate.
Speaker 1:I have some in my car right now, do you want?
Speaker 2:some. I love M&M's. I had a problem for a while, but then we weren't going to hand out candy this year. But my daughter insisted that we should because her friends are going to stop by to get candy. I think she should sit there and hand it out, but it is fun seeing most of the families come to the door with their kids.
Speaker 1:Do you get dressed up to hand it out?
Speaker 2:No. Two years ago I dressed as a werewolf and danced around upstairs and threatened people. That was fun. I'd like to do that again this year.
Speaker 1:Were they scared, did it work.
Speaker 2:I mean, some were spooked but most laughed and they waved and they howled at me. That's fun, but then I leave my wife sitting there by herself handing out candy, which she probably actually likes better. Anyhow, what do you want to talk about? Hey, we're speaking of candy. Yeah, let's talk.
Speaker 1:Tell me what you think is the number one candy.
Speaker 2:For Halloween.
Speaker 1:For Halloween or for USA.
Speaker 2:Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. You are correct, sir, they have the best commercials too.
Speaker 1:They do, they do. Like the Halloween one with the damn firebysand, I do love a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean what?
Speaker 2:about the Take Five.
Speaker 1:They're okay.
Speaker 2:I got some of those to hand out. They're not very up candy. No, oh, the boonie's there.
Speaker 1:No, no, candy.
Speaker 2:Did you decorate for Halloween?
Speaker 1:No, Fucking A Nothing. I put a few pumpkins out. Pumpkins are timeless.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's something.
Speaker 1:So you can put them out after Labor Day, say, and you can leave them out until after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2:Yeah, until they rot. So.
Speaker 1:I love a pumpkin.
Speaker 2:No carving.
Speaker 1:No, I don't usually carve anymore. When did you stop when the kids yeah, when the kids didn't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 2:Jovi and I carved last night.
Speaker 1:It's kind of messy, you know. You got to get that schloppy stuff out of there and then you rinse it. You feel obligated to bake the pumpkin seeds. You didn't.
Speaker 2:No, we did. Brooke doesn't carve. She quit that. She watches us carve and drink some wine, but then she gets all the seeds and gets them going. That's her role. It's teamwork.
Speaker 1:It's teamwork.
Speaker 2:What is the favorite cocktail of Halloween?
Speaker 1:Well, I like a hot cider.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's a good one, and she put anything or nothing in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hot cider and a cinnamon donut, that's fall right there.
Speaker 2:Have you been to Canabi's yet?
Speaker 1:I have not. Did you go to Canabi's? Yeah, it's a popular place.
Speaker 2:It's great.
Speaker 1:You'd have to Google it, but it was like one of the top three places to go in Michigan. We're going to say the nation, okay, the nation of.
Speaker 2:Michigan. But have you been there since they had the wood-fired pizzas?
Speaker 1:and all that shit. Yeah, I have been there, not last year, year before.
Speaker 2:And they just started doing that. Those donuts, they're not normal.
Speaker 1:No, they have a great gift shop.
Speaker 2:It's hard not to eat a dozen, oh, by yourself. Well, tis the season.
Speaker 1:Get away, you can.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll let you leave this. You know what?
Speaker 1:the worst candy is the most unpopular.
Speaker 2:Cow tails.
Speaker 1:What's a cow tail? A candy corn.
Speaker 2:No, it's like that long, is it candy corn? No, it's not candy corn. I know what a cow tail is it's like that long? Nasty thing.
Speaker 1:It's a triangle and then it's orange.
Speaker 2:I know what candy corn is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're horrible.
Speaker 2:You've said that on other podcasts.
Speaker 1:I mean this one. I'm going to say it until the day I die.
Speaker 2:You don't like it, I don't mind it.
Speaker 1:Some people mix them with peanuts. You know, make a mixture and.
Speaker 2:What about the pumpkin? That's like the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it tastes the same, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:So is that the most unpopular. It is the most unpopular and it's also the oldest candy, and by oldest I mean it's been in the dish longest you can get it so much for so cheap, it's not worth it.
Speaker 1:It tastes that way too. Yeah, yeah, I say no, the most unhealthy candy bars.
Speaker 2:Hold on a second.
Speaker 1:Well, right there, it has butter in the name, butterfinger yeah.
Speaker 2:I thought butter was healthy for you. It comes from milk, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:And so does chocolate. It does I mean it sounds healthy. Butterfinger it's not real butter, no, it doesn chocolate. It does I mean it sounds healthy Butterfinger.
Speaker 2:It's not real butter?
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't. It's not real finger either, baby Ruth.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love those.
Speaker 1:That's because they're unhealthy Shit. And the other one is Three Musketeers.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, those are all great. Do you like the 100,? What's it called the 100,000 grain?
Speaker 1:10,000? Yeah, there's a number in front of it.
Speaker 2:It was 10,000 and they upped it to 100,000.
Speaker 1:It's a little too nougaty, nougaty, there's no nougat, is there Caramel-y?
Speaker 2:Isn't it rice crispy? Yeah, like rice crispy.
Speaker 1:I like rice crispies. You know what's the lowest in sugar and fat and calories.
Speaker 2:Twizzler.
Speaker 1:Uh close Smarties.
Speaker 2:The lowest in sugar.
Speaker 1:That's what Google says. I guess that they're tiny. Yes, that was all sugar.
Speaker 2:Because you get one, smarties are okay.
Speaker 1:You know you get different flavors of those now. Yes, you can. I like the chewy ones too. How?
Speaker 2:do you?
Speaker 1:feel about a caramel apple. I like the caramel part, I like the first bite of it and then I can't even bite them because I just feel like all my teeth are gonna fall out, but I can cut them like a like a pie.
Speaker 2:At one point, though, you like them right um do you like it? When they have the? Um, there comes nuts again. The toffee, the nuts on them toffee.
Speaker 1:There's like they roll them in toffee too.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, delish, I'll trust you. You ever bob for apples.
Speaker 1:I was. That was my next thing. Do you know where that originated? Luthuania I shouldn't say where why it originated punished children um no, the single girls did it, and they would bob for apples and whoever got an apple first was the next to get married, everything kind of you know that's all devised by men, yeah. I think that was the gist of every game.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bob, for apples.
Speaker 2:So Get married.
Speaker 1:You get a husband Throw a horseshoe. You get a husband.
Speaker 2:Play a game of lawn charts.
Speaker 1:You die.
Speaker 2:Get a dead husband Okay.
Speaker 1:So did you carve a pumpkin?
Speaker 2:Yeah, jovi, and I did last night.
Speaker 1:Did you carve a turnip? Come on, because that's how it started.
Speaker 2:Oh, did it? No, we didn't have any turnips.
Speaker 1:The Irish were carving faces into turnips and beets to ward off evil spirits. Because, that's going to do it.
Speaker 2:The Irish and the Scottish immigrants. They, in the 19th century, brought over the idea of celebrating with bonfires, costumes and parties.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm and carving pumpkins.
Speaker 2:And carving pumpkins Turnips.
Speaker 1:When they came to the US pumpkins, I think were easier.
Speaker 2:So they switched.
Speaker 1:And more available.
Speaker 2:I think it's easier to carve a pumpkin than a turnip.
Speaker 1:I would think so. It'd be hard to bake those turnip seeds.
Speaker 2:You ever have turnip pie.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's a thing.
Speaker 1:And so now there's whole TV shows devoted to carving the pumpkins. There are, hey, you know.
Speaker 2:Tom Nardone, I do not.
Speaker 1:Tom Nardone.
Speaker 2:He's the guy that carves pumpkins. He'll be on probably today. He's been on today's show and all those shows.
Speaker 1:Oh, he does the. Yeah, I do know of him.
Speaker 2:I met him Really and we're friends on Facebook, so you're close. I interviewed for a job with him years ago. He used to own a sex toy shop.
Speaker 1:And that's the job you interviewed for.
Speaker 2:Writing copy for them. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1:That would be fascinating, really.
Speaker 2:It was, but I didn't get the job. Do you at least carve your face?
Speaker 1:in a pumpkin.
Speaker 2:Or a sex toy.
Speaker 1:Oh God, Now he's making all kinds of stuff. Maybe you need to get a hold of him again.
Speaker 2:No, I think we're good. Okay, he also was a guy big in Detroit before I'm getting off topic, as usual, but he had a lawnmower gang and they all bought lawnmowers and souped them up.
Speaker 1:And they'd go around and mow people's lawns in the Detroit area for free to keep the light away and things like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, I do know it's a pretty cool guy yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway.
Speaker 2:So, tom, thanks for listening. He's not listening.
Speaker 1:No, he's not Okay. What do you think is the most popular costume this year?
Speaker 2:Do I have to say it?
Speaker 1:No this year. Do I have to say it?
Speaker 2:No, I mean what do you think it is? It's going to be like a political thing.
Speaker 1:No, let's say no politicals. Okay, good, then I'll say Really it wasn't on the list.
Speaker 2:A clown.
Speaker 1:Who wants to be a fucking clown?
Speaker 2:It's classic, it's timeless.
Speaker 1:No Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2:Again, they make another Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1:Again they make another Beetlejuice Bluey.
Speaker 2:Did you ever watch that cartoon? Oh, is that that dog? It is, it's so cute.
Speaker 1:It's hilarious Disney princesses.
Speaker 2:Taylor Swift probably.
Speaker 1:Nope, she didn't make the list. How do you beat her? Nobody can beat her.
Speaker 2:Red shoes.
Speaker 1:And a superhero like Spider-Man, superman, batman.
Speaker 2:Superman, wolverine Is he a superhero? He's kind of a menace, isn't he?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know Wolverine very well, but those are the costumes that are the most popular this year. Wearing a costume, they think started when people darkened their faces with ashes, which we know now is wrong, and then that morphed into wearing masks and then that morphed into slutty nurses. Gotta appreciate a nurse costume or a maid a French maid.
Speaker 2:Did you know? Speaking of costumes, a little segue pet costumes. They $500 million a year spent on pet costumes.
Speaker 1:Oh, I believe it, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's insane. There's like people who need food that were buying pet costumes I shouldn't say they have to buy dog treats like insane but no costumes. And did you mention that, uh, 600 million pounds of candy are sold during Halloween?
Speaker 1:No, but that's what shipped on a candy. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:Uh 3 billion on sweets.
Speaker 1:Wow, and do you know? Who hates Halloween the most Teachers. They do the next day yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a no listen. They had a half Teachers. They do the next day. Yeah, now, listen Now listen, they had a half day yesterday because of parent-teacher conferences. Good, job, joby by the way, and today they have off, but they go back tomorrow.
Speaker 1:So after the kids have spent all day getting excited about Halloween jacked up, so they have Halloween no At school. No school today. None, and then tomorrow they go back all jacked up and hungover.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sugar buzz gone.
Speaker 2:That's insane. Poor planning Next.
Speaker 1:Next oh, we just forgot to mention at the beginning that All Hallows' Eve is how Halloween started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but what was it before that? I always ask that.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? It wasn't there, I know.
Speaker 2:Well, we say it wasn't. But did it just come out of nowhere?
Speaker 1:It was marking the end of the harvest season. There are different theories on how it started, but what I read in the most sense is marking the end of the harvest season, because it's that time of year Sure. And you know, a long time ago, people always wanted to communicate with dead people, and so that Halloween was the day that people could communicate with their loved ones that passed out. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:I think it's awesome and trick-or-treating actually used to be called souling.
Speaker 1:So you'd go looking for a soul?
Speaker 2:No, Do you have your soul? Poor children would go door-to-door and offer prayers for the dead in exchange for soul cakes.
Speaker 1:It's a soul cake.
Speaker 2:I don't know I think I'd eat it. A soul cake. I bet you they give you a lot of power.
Speaker 1:Is it an actual soul? I don't know.
Speaker 2:So anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you think about it, trick-or-treating is just insane. It's everything you tell your kids not to do all year long. Here you go, dress crazy like a slutty nurse and go door to door asking for candy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there was a fella when we lived downstate that dressed as Santa and would sit on the porch and have the children sit on his lap for candy that's creepy, I'm sure it was perfectly legit.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:But there's good things about it, come on. It's nice to see people getting out, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Today, I don't know, trick or treating. Today I ran into Dollar Tree and there were two girls working, one was thing, one and one was thing two.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1:So that was very clever. I gave them credit for that.
Speaker 2:I think some people take trouble for saying this. But schools you can't do.
Speaker 1:You can't do yeah, Because you piss people off. Although Jenna today dressed up, she looked very cute. She was the kitty cat Marie from Aristocats.
Speaker 2:Oh nice.
Speaker 1:And what they did at their school was here's a theme and it's never slutty, nurses, because it's an elementary school it was Disney which is a huge range and everybody can pull that off, so that's what she was.
Speaker 2:That's safe.
Speaker 1:And still fun. What's your favorite Halloween movie?
Speaker 2:Halloween.
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:I like that, mike Myers.
Speaker 1:It was scary. I remember seeing it when it first came out and I was young and it was terrifying Because it was the first movie like that.
Speaker 2:I tried telling my boy to watch it for years. I probably shouldn't have Because I don't know. It's artistic is the wrong word, but I love the long scenes and the pacing and the building of it all. And movies. Now they depend too much on flashing things Blood and gore and makeup. Boom boom, boom, boom boom Instead of like thought and storyline.
Speaker 1:Remember the Blair Witch Project.
Speaker 2:I actually liked that movie. I did too. It was interesting, I think your delivery's here.
Speaker 1:There was never nothing happened though.
Speaker 2:But it was great On screen, but it was scary. Scary as shit at the end when the guy probably I still think about it when he's standing in the corner facing that wall, oh God.
Speaker 1:I get the chills thinking about it. Nothing happens, though, in that whole movie. I do love Beetlejuice, and I love Beetlejuice, beetlejuice.
Speaker 2:That's a good one. Is that really a Halloween movie?
Speaker 1:I don't know. It was listed on it? I don't think so. Why wouldn't they want?
Speaker 2:to marry Beetlejuice. I want to marry Beetlejuice. They're stupid. Hocus Pocus. I watched it the other night. A muck, a muck, a muck, what. That's what she says right On Hocus Pocus Sarah Jessica Parker.
Speaker 1:She's the sluggish of the witches. I don't know. I'm not really into the Hocus Pocus.
Speaker 2:I made my wife watch it.
Speaker 1:Hollow.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, with what's his face, johnny Depp and Christina Ricci.
Speaker 1:That was good, that was very well done.
Speaker 2:Christina Ricci yes, it's also been Wednesday.
Speaker 1:Yes, she has a scary lineup. She's done a lot.
Speaker 2:Nightmare Before Christmas. It's kind of a Christmas movie, but it's a Halloween movie, yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't like it, do you? It's not my favorite, tim Burton.
Speaker 2:What is your favorite? Tim Burton.
Speaker 1:Probably Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2:What about Scissorhands? I love Scissorhands.
Speaker 1:Is that a Halloween? That's not a Halloween movie.
Speaker 2:But you forgot one, what? That actually is probably one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:And what is that?
Speaker 2:The little boy sitting in the pumpkin patch waiting.
Speaker 1:Oh, tv shows. Yeah, that's the best one, that is the best.
Speaker 2:Casper's on my list, but I don't know why I don't want Casper.
Speaker 1:I mean, he was all right in the comic book, but I didn't like the movies. How about Young Frankenstein?
Speaker 2:That's awesome, gene Wilder.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Gene Wilder, that's a good one. Rip I think Alpena Civic Theater is doing it right now. What? Yes, true. What am I doing? I don't know if it's playing soon, but they're doing it. If it's not running now, it will be running soon. You ever get a pass there? Season pass no. Okay, I was going to ask for your answer. I've done there, but I don't have a season pass. How about music?
Speaker 1:You know on the way here. Oh, that's a good one. I didn't even have that one on my list, what? But on the way here I was listening to Alice Cooper and I bet, because he has Welcome to my Nightmare. Be, my Frankenstein, some other ones, I bet his residual check in November is like awesome.
Speaker 2:Is that what it's called the residual Royalty, or royalty whatever you?
Speaker 1:know the money that he gets every time it plays.
Speaker 2:I bet November he gets a big ass check Because all Halloween they're playing those songs that he gets every time it plays. I bet in November he gets a big ass check.
Speaker 1:He's just out on the golf course, because all of Halloween they're playing those songs.
Speaker 2:You know, he's a great golfer and he's like play him, play him.
Speaker 1:Oh, he is a fabulous golfer and if you've never read his book, you should. What book? His book that he has.
Speaker 2:What's it about?
Speaker 1:It's about life golf, every other Life golf, life golf. That's pretty cool and he has met a lot of famous people Hung out with. Dolly what.
Speaker 2:He did what.
Speaker 1:Hung out with Dolly Salvador.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you meant Parton.
Speaker 1:Oh, he might have hung out with Dolly.
Speaker 2:He probably has.
Speaker 1:Probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good point. He probably is cleaning up.
Speaker 1:November. Like I said, if you are asking him for money, November would be a good time.
Speaker 2:He's probably got enough for Christmas presents coming December.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking he gets a nice holiday. Check His family all gets good presents. I've got to be happy with that.
Speaker 2:What about the Monster Mash?
Speaker 1:So I made a list of one-hit wonders and that was on there the Monster Mash. So I made a list of one-hit wonders, and that was on there. The.
Speaker 2:Monster Mash Is uh, somebody's watching me. Yes, what else? Privacy, yep.
Speaker 1:I would help. No, but good one.
Speaker 2:That's all I have.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:I'll shut up now. How about?
Speaker 1:Don't Fear the Reapers oh man, that's a great Mark Howbell.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:These were my fast five too, by the way.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry.
Speaker 1:That's all right. How about Werewolves of London?
Speaker 2:Made sure it played last night during pumpkin time. I love that one Dude. It's so funny, it's hilarious. A werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand Isn't that part of it?
Speaker 1:Well, it happened.
Speaker 2:It was based on a true story Shit hey have you been to the new place? No, there you go. No.
Speaker 1:Have you.
Speaker 2:No, but I've heard good things about it.
Speaker 1:Well, I tried to go, but they have kind of wonky hours, what you? Can't do that and I was looking online and they weren't really listed, but they had just opened, so I will revisit that.
Speaker 2:Sorry, maybe they know at that. Sorry, maybe they know. And the new breakfast place, did you try that? The cafe?
Speaker 1:Is it called something after a beach here? What's it called?
Speaker 2:Maybe Is this the one over where Mango's Express used to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's the name of the beach?
Speaker 2:Starlight Cafe.
Speaker 1:Yes, see Starlight Beach. That's pretty good, do you like it? Oh, I didn't go yet.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1:Did you go? It's good, yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:It takes a little while to get your stuff, but when you get it it's good.
Speaker 1:Anytime it's newish. You know you got to get in a group Fresh stuff and time it's caught on fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I love the Coney.
Speaker 2:The best breakfast. Well, Connie's is good too.
Speaker 1:Oh, Connie's is good. I like to get the lunch from the Coney too. I'm hungry now.
Speaker 2:Okay, wait, okay, I got one more song. What is it?
Speaker 1:Wonder, frankenstein by Edgar Winner.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, Nice, you have all these too. Probably don't you.
Speaker 1:My phone. What do you mean? Hey, do you still have records? We do have some albums A-tracks no A-tracks left. Those were almost before my time. Cassettes I actually have some, because I have a small boombox.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it has a CD player and a cassette player.
Speaker 2:That's handy. Some things are only on a.
Speaker 1:CD player and a cassette player. That's handy. Some things are only on a CD or a cassette, Like our holiday music pop in that Dean Martin CD.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yes, please. The Bing Crosby one's pretty good too. We'll have a Christmas episode, I bet.
Speaker 1:We have.
Speaker 2:And a Thanksgiving one.
Speaker 1:We have.
Speaker 2:What else? Yeah, we probably. Well, we have to repeat some of them.
Speaker 1:So what do you think about Halloween? How do you rate it? Is it a hero or a dick.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it's a hero.
Speaker 1:I say dick.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord why?
Speaker 1:I think it, like many holidays, is over, over, over commercialized and it's morphed into this big. I think that Halloween is like creeping up on Christmas for the biggest, the most money spent per holiday, the stuff people put on their yards and you know, is it Santa Claus Close?
Speaker 2:Oh, kate's always getting visitors stopping by here waving through the window.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're giving me the finger because I say Halloween, you're kind of a dick. I like your candy, I like some of your movies.
Speaker 2:It's been bastardized Because I know what you're saying Because I like decorating a little bit in the house. I like Charlie Brown, I like your.
Speaker 1:Charlie Brown thing in your yard, that's the best.
Speaker 2:Kudos to Rita Stevens.
Speaker 1:Good job Rita.
Speaker 2:Ripping off Charles Schultz's artwork. She did a good job. It looks really cool.
Speaker 1:It's her interpretation of it it looks so cute. People have been stopping by and take pictures, yeah, so that's cool. Well, and because, again, that one is cute, it's all homemade, it's pretty big too. I mean, somebody put some effort into it. They didn't just go to Walmart and buy the big blow-up thing.
Speaker 2:I don't like blow-ups very much.
Speaker 1:Here's the best blow-up story ever. My co-worker, Brian Hammond hey, Brian.
Speaker 2:Hello Brian.
Speaker 1:He had a Santa one oh. What did you do to it? He had the snowblower out. Oh, and he snowblowed it. There was Santa, all ripped, oh man.
Speaker 2:I love that. I don't know, yeah, those things.
Speaker 1:That had to be a little satisfying, yeah.
Speaker 2:There are a couple.
Speaker 1:I like the one on this building over here on the Crow Memorial Building.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:The flower shop.
Speaker 2:Lasting.
Speaker 1:Expressions. I don't think it's called that anymore, but anyway it's on that building. They have a big blow-up up there and that looks really cool yeah.
Speaker 2:I like that stuff, but I really All the people walking around clogging up the sidewalk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're going to be there tonight. I know I've got to stay positive.
Speaker 2:You're right in the thick of it. Yeah, we get a lot of them. How?
Speaker 1:many trick-or-treaters do you get?
Speaker 2:Last year was 350,. I think something like that yeah, wow, 330, 350.
Speaker 1:That's a lot, that's a lot Do you give? Them one piece of candy. Yeah, oh you do full-size candy buyers. Mm-hmm, wow, are you a gazillionaire. No, just really like candy, so do you buy it. Like tomorrow you'll go and buy it for next year.
Speaker 2:No, we look out for sales and stuff and then accumulate like a few weeks before.
Speaker 1:I'm going to come trick-or-treating now. What kind do you have? Do you have a variety?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got Charleston Chews. Oh my God, I like the old stuff they're horrible. Wait, wait, heath Bars.
Speaker 1:Okay, good.
Speaker 2:Hershey Bars yeah, take Fives, hold on a second. Oh, I did get Sour Patch Kids. Yeah, chips, ahoy Cookies, oh, Like the bigger bags. The little package of them yeah. I think I got some $100,000, whatever they call those grand.
Speaker 1:And you never have any left over either, do you?
Speaker 2:I might. You stashed some, didn't you? I get in trouble for eating them before Halloween. I know Brooke caught me. She hid the.
Speaker 1:Charleston shoes and the Heath bars. That's really that's what you're going to eat before Halloween the Charleston shoes.
Speaker 2:I really like those. You don't like them oh no With a big glass of milk.
Speaker 1:No, but Heath bar is good.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, I don't know what to tell you. I think Halloween's a hero.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't have Fast Five. I mean, we used my Fast Five, so I don't have any either. All right, well, I mean. The music's a hero. Let's say yeah, definitely All the Fast Fives that we went through and I mean that's a lot of fun. Another part the movies are fun too. I've been trying not to watch super scary things because I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:I don't do that anymore. I don't know, I'm just not into it anymore. But Halloween was fucking scary when it came out. It still is.
Speaker 2:H2O was pretty good too, the reboot. I mean, there's been 100,000 of those, but 20 years later that was good.
Speaker 1:Sometimes the scariest movie is not a scare movie, right, you know, like Open Water or Suspense, suspense.
Speaker 2:Yes, right, you know, like open water um suspense you know suspense, yes, um my uh one more thing before we depart I see you got your driver pulled up for you, the um. I really enjoy tv episodes, the halloween themed tv episodes, you know, and there's some even you can remember from when you're a kid like oh yeah, happy days ones, or a modern family has some good ones. Um, you ever see that show and there's some even you can remember from when you were a kid.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Happy Days ones. Modern Family has some good ones. You ever see that show Ghosts? I have not, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, the Halloween episode from last year is hilarious, but I like those, like any of them.
Speaker 1:And some people are really, really into Halloween, and good for you, yeah, it's just not for me. I prefer Thanksgiving. I really enjoy Thanksgiving Four-day weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Eat on Thursday Eat everything you can. Friday, take a little break. Yeah, Saturday just eat it all again.
Speaker 2:Then when do you put the tree up?
Speaker 1:Just depends. We have a fake one now, so we can put it up anytime.
Speaker 2:Do you have it up for Thanksgiving or no? No, okay, no.
Speaker 1:No, we still got pumpkins.
Speaker 2:Yeah, got to ride those out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love a pumpkin, all right.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Okay, thanks for listening to our Halloween episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, everybody have a good one.
Speaker 1:Bye, bye.
