Hero or Dick
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2., Ep. 21 - Chevy Chase
Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! This time around, we turn our attention to the enigmatic and ever-fascinating Chevy Chase. From his early days as a drummer in what would become Steely Dan to his pioneering role on Saturday Night Live, Chase's career has been as unpredictable as it is legendary.
We also have a candid discussion about New Year's resolutions and tackle the paradox of personal improvement, debating whether kindness to mean people or the art of regifting makes one a hero or a "dick."
As always, thanks for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Hello, greetings. Can you hear me, kate?
Speaker 2:I can Okay Kind of.
Speaker 1:You can kind of yeah no, I can. We're having, as usual, technical difficulties.
Speaker 2:You know that on button.
Speaker 1:It's tricky, I know. And then the battery having to put the battery in, oh, my God, Fuck man.
Speaker 2:We need an IT person.
Speaker 1:We do Well. We had one, but there's been some budget cuts, so there's been some budget cuts.
Speaker 2:So welcome to Hero or Dick Season 2, episode 21. That ought to be our last one of the year, I think.
Speaker 1:Ever, Maybe, Especially if what happened the other day to me happens again.
Speaker 2:What happened?
Speaker 1:For about I don't know a week or two Now, and then I'm feeling lightheaded or whatever, and then I thought a little anxious. And then waking up in the middle of the night I had a disease stress which it probably was, but I wasn't sure. And then, about a week and a half ago, the left side of my face got a little numb. Oh, that's not good, but I'm like again, I'm like it's got to be strong. There's a lot going on, as you know.
Speaker 2:There is, but your face doesn't go numb.
Speaker 1:Well, it did. And so the other day, Thursday or whatever, Brooke and I it was lunchtime I came home and we went on a walk, as we do, yeah.
Speaker 2:I see you walking the dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, walking the dog, all of a sudden my vision started going Like peripheral vision was going, and then I kept telling everybody that was asking it was like when you look at the sun and then you see sunspots, but it was getting more and more and more of those. Like, I looked down, I couldn't even see the dog. I knew there was a dog there, the colors and stuff Couldn't see road signs, and then I got really lightheaded and and then I got really lightheaded and we got home and I'm like I got to go lay down. But I lay down and that only made it worse, because then you start thinking about it. I was really weak and I'm like, god damn it, brooke, you got to take me to the doctor and she's like, should we go to the ER? I'm like, well, maybe, but we went to urgent care.
Speaker 2:We get to urgent care, tell them what's going on and they said go to ER.
Speaker 1:They get me back right away and they're like we think you're having a stroke, so we need to get an ambulance. And I'm like I said don't call an ambulance, my wife can take me, it's quicker.
Speaker 2:I think they have to, though they said that they made me sign a thing.
Speaker 1:So the whole time I could have been dead, it's like. So we went and they got me in right away at ER and did the whole stroke protocol. They thought I was having a stroke. Yeah, my blood pressure was 250 over 220, but it got down to 215 over 115. But that's way high. Oh yeah, and then it got down more and more. But anyway, long story short, it's eight hours in the ER.
Speaker 2:Which is just not stressful at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2:I got to take better care of myself. Is that what they said in the end? No, they didn't say that. Oh, what did they say?
Speaker 1:They didn't even give me any like.
Speaker 2:Diagnosis.
Speaker 1:No, they thought it was a stroke. But then I got a CT scan, an MRI, and the CT scan showed that I may have had a stroke in the past and that it just healed itself because it wasn't.
Speaker 2:And, as weird as that sounds, I think that's common.
Speaker 1:I think people do and they write it off and they just think, oh, but here's the thing Then, when they did the MRI man, those coffees are delicious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really good, I don't know where you go. Big B Peppermint sometimes.
Speaker 1:Peppermint I did two decafs this morning, I thought I'd treat kate and I to a real coffee anyway. What were we?
Speaker 2:talking about I don't know.
Speaker 1:You had a stroke no, I didn't have a stroke, because the mri showed that I didn't. And then you sit there and you talk to four or five different doctors some people almost doctors, some nurses, some almost nurses and then you talk to a doctor, a real one, apparently from the? U of m, on a on a tv. That doesn't give me comfort.
Speaker 2:No, it does not.
Speaker 1:How do you know that it's even a real doctor?
Speaker 2:It could have been AI, it could have been, you know, somebody's brother-in-law just doing an acting job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he hacked in.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So what did the quote-unquote real doctor say?
Speaker 1:He wasn't sure. He said that it didn't appear to be a stroke, but that it could be due to the stress in my life. And I think man, I'm a wimp because there's people that got a lot of shit, serious stuff, going on, you know, whenever you think you got it bad. And here I'm like.
Speaker 2:I got the high blood pressure.
Speaker 1:Somebody help me Such a wimp. Big pussy I am a big pussy and I feel bad for my wife, but she was there for me, she took me in and I bet the whole. While she's thinking, oh my God, let me remind you that I had two children and after the first one I went to school. Like two days later she did, I had a kid and then went right back to class in college. But who's pumping out babies in college? Just kidding, honey.
Speaker 2:Love you.
Speaker 1:It's not easy. No, women are tougher than men.
Speaker 2:So the moral to the story is take better care of yourself. Did they give you some blood pressure medicine or something?
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 2:Nothing, nothing. When do you go to your regular doctor?
Speaker 1:I never do.
Speaker 2:That might be a problem.
Speaker 1:That's what I've been hearing. Maybe go to the doctor once a year instead of these ER visits I give you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bet Brooke would appreciate that. She would you go to the doctor? On your lunch hour once or twice a year, versus her spending a whole day in ER.
Speaker 1:She didn't, I didn't make her. She felt bad. I said just go, I'll be fine. Well, I felt bad too. I understand that.
Speaker 2:But I went in and then she's like all right, but I feel like I should be here yeah, I kind of have to. Maybe I got to get those last you would do it for me, but I got to get those last bank passwords before you die. The crypto, the Okay, you know I checked my crypto this week because somebody was asking me about crypto.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't know I threw $25 in it yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, what was it Two years ago? Well, two years ago. And it's at $65.
Speaker 1:Oh, good yeah, but that was earlier in the week too.
Speaker 2:I didn't check it after everything tanked. I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 1:Dude, you're not a dude, but it's gone up a lot in the last month and it's gone down a little. It'll skyrocket or get up higher some things because crypto's being more accepted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I should probably put more than that $25 thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, think of if you would have put in a hundred. I know a thousand.
Speaker 2:I know, well, now, I know. But as with everything, it's a crapshoot, you know not when you got me guiding you okay, your head's gonna explode because your blood pressure is so high.
Speaker 1:Well, that might Big ego and arrogance Like the topic of our podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh, good segue, Because today's topic is Say it.
Speaker 1:Chevy Chase, is it Chevy or Chevy?
Speaker 2:Chevy, everyone says it every way. Yeah, however you want to say it, chevy Chase is our topic today. His real name is Cornelius Crane Chase. He was nicknamed after the ballad of. Chevy Chase is our topic today. His real name is Cornelius Crane Chase.
Speaker 1:He was nicknamed after the ballot of Chevy Chase.
Speaker 2:Oh was he. Grandma gave him the nickname.
Speaker 1:I don't know, did his grandma beat him like his parents? Because he got beat by his parents. Quite often Really Says who His mom and his stepdad.
Speaker 2:Says Chevy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In interviews with Washington Post. I watched two of them and then.
Speaker 2:He came from a very prominent family. They had some buckage.
Speaker 1:They did. His father was Edward Tinsley Chase. He was a Princeton-educated book editor and writer.
Speaker 2:She was a concert pianist and a libertist. What's a libertist? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Siblings, older brother Edward, and several half-siblings, and he had a few kids of his own.
Speaker 2:But I mean, he was born in Manhattan and he had a pretty dump. I suppose there's dumps there, but he was not living in them, he was of privilege, let's say Sure.
Speaker 1:He went to Bard College.
Speaker 2:I didn't read anything about him being beaten, though.
Speaker 1:Came right from his mouth.
Speaker 2:That's why maybe I didn't read it.
Speaker 1:Right, and there were some other articles about it too. His stepdad, john Cedarquist, was kind of a pecker, I guess, and it got to the point where his older brother, ned and Chevy, kind of stood up to him and said you can't treat us like that anymore, because he came up behind him one of the times and smacked him in the back of the head really hard and told him to get to the fucking library or something like that. But then his mom apparently too had some issues, locked him in a closet for like days to punish him for something.
Speaker 2:Hmm, wow, what website are you getting that from? Chevy'sgotproblemscom I think he may have created it?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm just telling you it could be true. I'm not saying it's not.
Speaker 1:Who hasn't been abused?
Speaker 2:Well, I haven't been like that. Nobody locked me in the closet.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know. He said he was several times in different interviews.
Speaker 2:Okay, and who are we to disagree? I don't know, maybe he was Of course he could, that could explain a lot.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, he said that, Maybe he was explaining it away. Well, here's the weird thing, and I know I'm getting off track. He was asked you know how did it affect him? He said that he hates Don't laugh, but he hates bullies. But he actually turned into a bully. Yeah, you know so.
Speaker 2:And so is that his defense, then?
Speaker 1:No, he doesn't defend it anymore.
Speaker 2:He says that he was a jerk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he said that he thinks a lot of it was taken out of context, in that some of the folks from Saturday Night Live were jealous of his success because he was the first cast member that took off.
Speaker 2:He was on the first season of SNL in 1975. And did you know that he was the first person to say live from New York?
Speaker 1:Saturday night. How cool is that To be the first one that's a nice thing to have a plaque to have on the wall.
Speaker 2:But he left after one year and maybe some of them were jealous of him. Maybe he was just a jerk too. I think maybe a little of both. I think maybe a little about.
Speaker 1:I think it was a little about too, because he is pretty.
Speaker 2:He's arrogant. Okay, so are you arrogant or confident?
Speaker 1:I think he is confident in his chops. As far as his comedy chops, yes, and even Joel McHale from the community.
Speaker 2:Who really doesn't like him? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Actually I watched two podcasts with him talking about Chevy Chase and he actually played him in a movie not too long ago, a documentary about him, and he let Chevy know that he was going to be doing it and he was like, yeah, that's fine and they don't get along, obviously, but they don't spat anymore. But he said that.
Speaker 2:They don't work together anymore.
Speaker 1:He said it was like a cantankerous old man came to the set and didn't want to work the hours that were required. So that was a big contention and he always thought that he could do better writing and acting. And Joel said and I'm paraphrasing, but he said basically that Chevy was right because he was masterful at comedy and funnier than anybody there.
Speaker 2:His comedic timing and dry wit are fantastic. I mean, you can't National Lampoon Vacation and Christmas Vacation would be nothing without him.
Speaker 1:Fletch.
Speaker 2:And Fletch Caddyshack, but he is kind of always playing that same character. Guy yeah, Spies Like Us. That was actually a funny one too. But he is kind of always playing that same guy Spies Like Us. That was actually a funny one too, Quentin.
Speaker 1:Tarantino was talking about that. I watched that yesterday too.
Speaker 2:As you can tell, I was a little passionate about this subject. You did your homework Good job.
Speaker 1:Quentin Tarantino was comparing well, talking about 80s movies, because he's obviously a little into film.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he was talking about the difference between bill murray and chevy chase and he said he will hands down. And again, quentin doesn't know anything about movies. Take chevy chase as an actor in his movies over bill murray any day, because bill murray it's the happy story all the time. It's like in scrooged, he's like oh, he's a mean guy and he goes good, he's like. But what he likes about the Chevy Chase movies is he's always the same arrogant guy. So I don't know, that's just his take on it and he is through Fletch, through Spies Like Us, which also has Dan Aykroyd, who oh, he's awesome, he's great, Nothing but Trouble.
Speaker 2:Funny Farm, Three Amigos yeah, he's great and then he isn't. He was great through the 80s or maybe even early 90s, and then he had the Chevy Chase Show.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which flopped after six weeks it did. He's not that guy. He can't sit behind a desk and interview you, I think, because he's more ego-driven. So, oh hey, let's talk about me.
Speaker 1:Butterman did it, and he's an egotistical.
Speaker 2:He wasn't talking about him, though.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:In fact, he deflected most everything about him. We should do a pod on him. I love him. I do. Now we don't have to do it because he could do whatever. David.
Speaker 1:Lefman.
Speaker 2:He will never be a dick in my book. How about Community, though? When Chevy Chase was on that show with Joel McHale, he was fired because he used a racial slur on set.
Speaker 1:See that's not what they said.
Speaker 2:That's what I read in a couple sources, but I don't know specifically what, and that's fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because.
Speaker 2:I heard there was a little between him and Glover arguing all the time yes and him, and physical fights between him and Joel.
Speaker 1:McHale yeah, one time he dislocated Chevy Chase's shoulder.
Speaker 2:Really he's a big guy, that Joel McHale.
Speaker 1:He's tall.
Speaker 2:Really tall, so he probably pounded down on him. And Chevy got in physical fights with Bill Murray. I don't know if there was an actual physical fight I couldn't find it but it had a big rivalry, and rivalry, let's just say, with John Belushi.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they ever came to blows.
Speaker 1:You said that in that one fight with Bill Murray that it was kind of like the three of them were hitting each other. But they went right on with the show and then you talk to what's her name.
Speaker 2:Lorraine Newman.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Is that her, the blonde lady that was on Saturday Night Live? Yeah, she said. I watched the interview with her and she said or Jane. Curtin, oh, jane Curtin. Yeah, she said, and she was the one that was sober. She's like it was just testosterone Boys with testosterone. She said it got blown out of proportion. It never was as bad. She's like yeah, chevy was an arrogant prick, he's like, but a lot of those guys were.
Speaker 2:I bet he wasn't the only one that was arrogant.
Speaker 1:You can't tell me Bill Murray can't be a peckerhead.
Speaker 2:Well, I can't tell you that, but some people would tell you that I have big love for him too.
Speaker 1:He's all right.
Speaker 2:Sorry, here was a little known fact though that I thought was very interesting that Chevy Chase played drums in a band in college named the Leather Canary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and after Chevy Chase left the band, it became Steely Dan.
Speaker 2:That's pretty fucking awesome. Well, what would have been if he would have stayed?
Speaker 1:It would have been the Chippy Chase band. And then they would have flopped and he would have been the lead singer and the drummer and the guitarist, and he would have wrote the music. He also was in another band too. I forget the name of it. They actually put out one album. It wasn't very good, but I remember that he did a self-titled musical comedy album in 1980.
Speaker 2:And see, in 1980, he was really in his prime I would say, yeah, you know, late 70s or early 80s, that's when he did Fletch and Funny Farm.
Speaker 1:You know I love the sarcasm, but it's all the time, even in his interviews. Now he's 70 or 80.
Speaker 2:And he still does it. He still does it. He can't stop. So maybe he's not even acting, maybe that's just him.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know. I think he's always on, like Robin Williams was always on, but not in the same. Like he's always on, just always.
Speaker 2:Just watch Christmas Vacation, because you can't not watch it.
Speaker 1:It's on every channel.
Speaker 2:I love it All day long, 24-7. Now the part where he's giving his boss the gift or no, when the boss is walking by.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, kiss his ass.
Speaker 2:Kiss my ass, kiss your ass, kiss his ass.
Speaker 1:Abionica.
Speaker 2:Abionica. Yeah, I mean I don't know if that was in the script or what.
Speaker 1:Oh, we could do a little thing about that. Who his?
Speaker 2:boss is Brian Doyle Murray.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bill's brother Brian.
Speaker 1:The guy talks like this yeah, he does. He's in a Bubble Boy episode of Seinfeld. He was the Bubble Boy's dad. He was what's his name? That played the kid and he was in Roseanne Johnny, whatever his name is. He was talking pretty highly about Mr Chase saying that.
Speaker 2:Wasn't he also on Big Bang Theory? Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1:He said that when he was young it was amazing how much he took the time to help him with his acting and timing.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, because he was the son in there and also Beverly D'Angelo talks.
Speaker 1:She knows he is who he is, but she talks really well. And I actually watched last night Hotel Hell Vacation, which is a 14-minute long short film with Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo and they're in the old wooden station wagon and they go on a romantic getaway to this hotel just the two of them because they're about to go to their grandkid's house with Rusty and they spend the night there. It is hilarious.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll have to look through that.
Speaker 1:I mean maybe I was off my nut last night watching it, but my daughter came in and checked on me. I was laughing so hard. I mean it was really good.
Speaker 2:And that movie is just so funny and it's still funny, even though I've seen it 50-plus times probably when they're going to get the Christmas tree and they're singing fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.
Speaker 1:Take it Rusty. There's a lot of I'm getting off track.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of missing.
Speaker 1:Quite a few scenes were cut from that I found that out last night.
Speaker 2:I'd like to see the unedited version.
Speaker 1:There's a version. Well, I don't know if it ever came out, but remember in the movie where they're in the car and they go flying off that snow bank and crash into the Christmas tree thing. There's actually a whole scene there where there's an old guy that runs the christmas tree place and, uh, they go to pay for a tree and he's like we didn't bring a saw. He's like I don't have a saw.
Speaker 1:You have to bring your own saw, and you know later on yeah they're going with the car on the hood, they actually borrow a shovel from that guy and dig it out, because he refers to that later when he's talking to Eddie. He's like dug it out with my own hands.
Speaker 2:Dug it out myself, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he actually borrows a shovel and they cut that out. But there's a whole bunch of other stuff, especially with the old lady.
Speaker 2:The Aunt Clara.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the old lady, is that her name? Yeah, the old lady, is that her name? Yeah, clara and Uncle Lewis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, In the regular Christmas or the regular vacation. It's Aunt Edna and it's Emma Jean Coco and she is the best. She comes out with that walker to get her name with her helper. I love it.
Speaker 1:Anyway, we better get back to him. Yeah, so Chevy Chase the physical comedy.
Speaker 2:Physical comedy is unmatched.
Speaker 1:He had a lot of addiction problems oh that was cool. Yeah, painkillers, alcohol.
Speaker 2:I think he did a lot of coke in the 80s which anybody with money really did.
Speaker 1:There was a Dick Cavett episode. I watched where he was on there and talking about cocaine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was pretty terrible. I love the cocaine he did. Love the cocaine he did. He probably spent a lot of money on it.
Speaker 1:He's worth $50 million, yet.
Speaker 2:Oh, good for you. I hope he gets a residual from those movies. I bet yeah.
Speaker 1:And every little ornament hanging on someone's tree, the sweaters.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of swag to do with the Christmas vacation.
Speaker 1:He travels around and they show his movies at theaters and he goes in with the crowd on the stage while they're showing the movie and he'll answer questions about the movie.
Speaker 2:Well, that's very nice of him.
Speaker 1:Well, it's about him, but no, I think it's kind of cool that he does that Ask questions about me. Only he's won three primetime Emmy.
Speaker 2:Awards For what?
Speaker 1:Outstanding Writing for a Variety Series, Outstanding Writing for a Comedy, Variety or Musical Series and Individual Performance in a Variety or Music Program.
Speaker 2:But for SNL.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he got a Hollywood Walk of Fame star in 93 and he was inducted to the New Jersey Hall of Fame in 2018 for his contributions to arts and entertainment. He donates a lot to causes for animals, pets and arts things of that nature.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good. Good for you, Chevy.
Speaker 1:You hate them. I can tell already Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Is it time for me to say yeah? I guess I could say oh, do you have?
Speaker 1:some more info. You've got more stuff there.
Speaker 2:No, I Do. You like how I wrote it on my notebook. It's red and green, like it's Christmas.
Speaker 1:Eve and you have a green hat on and a red shirt. I do, I just finished this hat this morning, oh nice job.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it's got a tree on the side. Let me see, let's see Right here.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, nice job. Thank you, kate made this hat herself. Everyone, you could send in some money. They're $39.95.
Speaker 2:She'll make you one, maybe this hat is actually made out of. I can't think of the oxen's specific name, but Cassidy bought it in Alaska. The ox so it's really warm.
Speaker 1:It looks wool almost.
Speaker 2:It's wool, but it's from an oxen or something Ox wool something. I have to look it up. Oxbowl, Also, while we're talking about Cassidy, she said and she pointed out and she is correct as always that we were calling on the soup episode. We were calling progresso soup, progressive soup, which that's a different thing apparently.
Speaker 1:Oops, sorry. That's pretty close, but yeah, we got the P. Oops, sorry, that's pretty close, but yeah we got the P.
Speaker 2:She's right, she's always right.
Speaker 1:So I mean, what are the other things you found out about him?
Speaker 2:Nothing.
Speaker 1:You didn't find anything else.
Speaker 2:I mean, we went through everything, I found out oh man, here goes that plane again.
Speaker 1:He's been in at least 20 films.
Speaker 2:Oh, at least At least 20 films. Oh, at least yeah.
Speaker 1:The Groove Tube. You ever hear that one.
Speaker 2:I have not.
Speaker 1:Follow Play with Goldie Hawn. I got that one on my list. Caddyshack, yep, seems Like Old Times. National Lampoon's Vacation. Yeah, fletch, yeah, national Lampoon's Vacation.
Speaker 2:There's a couple Fletches too. Fletch Christmas vacation, european vacation, vegas vacation. And then you said there was a short on them too. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hotel Hell.
Speaker 2:Hotel Hell. Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:What did I call?
Speaker 2:that I thought you said.
Speaker 1:Hotel Hell vacation. It was from 2010. Oh, Hot Tub Time Machine. He was the repairman.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, it was in Orange County Snow Day.
Speaker 1:Man of Three Amigos. Yes, that was cool.
Speaker 2:Funny Farm. Did you ever see that one that I own it? I love it. It's funny. Yes, I see that dog. Every time I see that dog, it just runs. Would you call that a Christmas movie?
Speaker 1:Because there's a whole thing where it's about Christmas at the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could classify it as such, if you want, so I can watch it today. Yeah, you can, yep, you can. Then you have to go to work.
Speaker 1:Me Are you on vacation all day? I'm off today. Oh, my gosh Kate's trying to get rid of me Congratulations. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can go home. After you give Joby a ride, you can go home and watch a couple Christmas movies, and then you'll have to go pick her up. Oh yeah, pick her up, I am Okay. So I'm going to say fantastic comedic timing and dry wit, yes, but however, I think he is a dick in real life and that's what counts. So I'm going to call him a dick. Sorry, Chevy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is one of my fence ones.
Speaker 2:I mean, his movies are great.
Speaker 1:I think he is a dick, but he's kind of a hero to me the more I actually researched him. I don't think he's a bad human. I think he says shit that he shouldn't say.
Speaker 2:And maybe he was a dick for a certain reason. I don't know why. But don't be a dick. That's my reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you shouldn't be a dick. So he's kind of a heroic dick. But I guess if I had to pick, he's a dick, yeah, but I don't know. I think he'd be cool. I think he'll be on the show too. He's not doing anything.
Speaker 2:I think he's a dick. He'll say fuck you.
Speaker 1:He probably would and he'd laugh. He would laugh about it.
Speaker 2:But, chevy, if you're listening, prove me otherwise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, please do.
Speaker 2:All right, you know.
Speaker 1:I actually had a fast five this time. What?
Speaker 2:is it? But you've got something Go ahead. Well, I just wrote down fast five of resolutions, because we're close to the end of the year, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm year, so I have a few resolutions that might work, might not, might be hero, might be dicks, okay, okay. So the first one that you said was to get your blood pressure down. How could that ever be a dick move?
Speaker 1:Well, it's not, but it's kind of a dickish. Every year someone's like I'm going to get healthier, I'm going to eat better.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to stop drinking. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to stop drinking, but you're going to get your blood pressure down. I think yours needs to be. I'm going to go to the doctor regularly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably.
Speaker 2:That would be good.
Speaker 1:Wait, what did you say? Is this a hero?
Speaker 2:I say that's a hero move. Yeah, because then Brooke doesn't have to sit in the ER.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, you should go to the doctor once a year.
Speaker 2:Will that kill you? No, it might kill you if you don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:So one that I have is to be nice to mean people, and by mean people I mean people who I normally wouldn't be nice to.
Speaker 1:Can you give out?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to give out names, but if I'm nice to you now you're going to wonder if she made nice to me because, she liked me before she said that.
Speaker 1:You know that's giving people grace, basically yeah. Instead of being mean back.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to.
Speaker 1:I like it when you're a little edgy. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:I didn't say I was going to kiss anybody's ass.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:She why I didn't say I was going to kiss anybody's ass. There you go, she's back.
Speaker 1:But I'm going to be kind to mean people. Okay, oh my God, I can't even say it, I know, and your face was all contorted saying it.
Speaker 2:That's a hero move, that is a hero move, I say something.
Speaker 1:It's not going to happen.
Speaker 2:What's your other one? You said Read more. What's your?
Speaker 1:other one. You said Read more, oh, read more.
Speaker 2:Everybody should read more.
Speaker 1:That's heroic.
Speaker 2:That's heroic right there.
Speaker 1:Everybody should read. Put your phones down unless you've got a book on them.
Speaker 2:Unless you're reading a book on your phone. So on Goodreads, I set the goal every year. My goal is 50 books and I'm at 48. So we'll see. I think I read more than that.
Speaker 1:I think you did too.
Speaker 2:But I don't think I recorded everything. That's okay, alright, so of course that would be a hero. How could that not be a hero, alright, in the? In the context of being nice to mean people, I'm also going to listen to people more instead of playing on my phone while people are talking to me, you seem like a good listener. I try to be, but apparently.
Speaker 1:Oh jeez, Is someone telling you that you're not a good listener?
Speaker 2:Some people say and to be a better listener, what do you have to do?
Speaker 1:Listen.
Speaker 2:Make eye contact.
Speaker 1:I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:I do.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I think if I make an eye contact I can wander in my thoughts.
Speaker 1:But if I look at people like if I don't look at people, I can concentrate more on what they're saying. I think that's me Okay, Like when I'm listening to music or a good story, an audio book, I gotta close my eyes that's not a human. I'm closing my eyes right now. How about if you're?
Speaker 2:talking to a human. I don't like humans. There's like a handful I do so are you making eye contact with them? Sometimes try it okay.
Speaker 1:I'll put that on my list we mentioned the soup thing.
Speaker 2:The only other resolution I have is ask why all the time, maybe not all the time, but sometimes more often so just not accept things right, if somebody tells you something, don't just say okay why I? Don't just say okay.
Speaker 1:Why? I don't know.
Speaker 2:This might conflict with your being nice to mean people.
Speaker 1:Why you? Alright, you want me to go through mine. Yes, ready, yeah, be gifting.
Speaker 2:It can be heroic, because if you don't have a gift for somebody, then you're a dick. They come hey, look at me. I'm like, oh God, look at me, I don't have a gift for you.
Speaker 1:And sometimes you get something and you're like this is really nice and I appreciate the fact that they thought of me, but you know what I think this person can use it more than I can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it depends on what you're regifting and you have to be careful you can't regift to anybody in that circle.
Speaker 1:It'll get back to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm not opposed to it, but I'm not a big proponent of it. Black Friday shopping.
Speaker 2:Hate it.
Speaker 1:Next.
Speaker 2:Egg nog.
Speaker 1:No, nog Office holiday parties.
Speaker 2:I don't know they can get you in trouble. Yeah, they can. No nog Office holiday parties, I don't know, they can get you in trouble, yeah, they can no alcohol.
Speaker 1:We watched the office Christmas party last night.
Speaker 2:I need to watch that Jason Bateman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pretty raunchy, and then Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas song.
Speaker 2:I heard an interview and she said I think writing that song, which I didn't know, she wrote it. I thought she would sing it. She said she wrote it and she said I think writing that song is the best thing I ever did in my life, like whoa.
Speaker 1:The best.
Speaker 2:That's pretty heavy. She's got a couple kids too, yeah, sorry kids. Sorry, kids, but the song is what's Feeding you Diamonds? I mean, it must have made her a gazillion and five dollars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably. I mean I'd it's a catchy tune I have to say I like it because I love the movie Love. Actually, that is my favorite, favorite Christmas movie. You know that little girl actually sang that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I like her version of it better than Mariah's. But the song itself I do like I'm a hero.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, call me sentimental.
Speaker 1:Well, today is the 23rd. Tomorrow, santa, supposedly, is going to be coming.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? Supposedly? Well, if you're good, do you have some news?
Speaker 1:I don't know. We won't talk anymore until after the New Year's.
Speaker 2:No, we won't.
Speaker 1:Have a Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, merry Christmas to everyone. You can say it, it's fine.
Speaker 1:I usually say Happy Holidays, because that encompasses everything. Yeah, I used to say Merry Christmas, but I don't want to leave anybody out. You know Happy days.
Speaker 2:Happy holidays how about that.
Speaker 1:Happy holidays.
Speaker 2:That encompasses everything. And Happy New Year too. 2025, I don't hear something I was thinking about too. You know everybody is getting to the end of 2024, and they're all oh, this is the most controversial or worst, worst time, or we've had a hard year, and at the end of every year, nobody says you know, gee, 2024, that was a breeze, let's do that again. You know they don't say that. So every year may seem hard, but it's not. No, it's not.
Speaker 1:We're not living in caves.
Speaker 2:That could be. That's not the worst thing that could happen to us.
Speaker 1:True, but you know what I mean I do. People bitch about me talking about my high blood pressure. Now I look back and I've got to edit that out because I'm just being a little bitch, because we all have pretty good lives and we make our decisions every day.
Speaker 2:It's like you've got a choice and I think when you start to complain or oh, you know, whatever, we're out of butter.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:What's a complaint? But it's like you're not living through a Holocaust, right? You're just watching a show on Hulu that's called we Were the Lucky Ones, and it's about the people who survived through the war.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:And those people went through a lot of shit. They didn't even die Right Dying would have been easier, yeah.
Speaker 1:And everything they go through.
Speaker 2:It's like all right, shut up. They're probably not being a dick. No, they're not.
Speaker 1:And if they are, well, they got a little.
Speaker 2:They have right to be. So Happy New Year and think of it that way Every year is new.
Speaker 1:Everybody. Reach deep down, pull your heads out of your asses and look for the positivity in the everyday, because we don't do enough of that.
Speaker 2:Be nice to mean people Right on.
Speaker 1:All right, happy New Year.
Speaker 2:Bye.
