
Hero or Dick
Welcome to Hero or Dick, the podcast where hosts Kate and KJ take you on a rollicking ride through the quirks and curiosities of history, pop culture, and everything in between! Each episode, this dynamic duo delves into the stories of famous (and sometimes infamous) figures, events, and phenomena, dissecting them with a blend of humor, insight, and a touch of whimsy.
From the fascinating lives of historical icons to the hidden tales behind your favorite movies and music, Kate and KJ unravel the threads of the extraordinary. But that’s not all - this podcast is peppered with personal anecdotes, Kate's infamous 'Fast Five' lists (yes, we’re still waiting on KJ to remember his), and interactive segments where listeners can share their stories and opinions.
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Hero or Dick
S3, Ep. 1 - Hero or Dick - The Super Bowl
Welcome to Season 3 of HERO OR DICK!
From using barbecue sauce as a ketchup stand-in to the evolution of Super Bowl halftime shows, Kate & KJ cover many topics related to America's most watched TV event.
Discover how Super Bowl ticket prices have skyrocketed from $12 to $5,000, and speculate on future AI officiating as they debate the role of cheerleaders in today's game.
Whether you're placing bets on the coin toss or just here for the halftime show, this episode is packed with entertaining insights and football banter.
Thanks, as always for listening!
~ Kate & KJ
Okay hello, greetings, happy.
Speaker 1:Happy New Year. This is the last day you can say it. Happy New Year, merry Christmas. Too late, too late Too late, too slow.
Speaker 2:This is episode.
Speaker 1:Episode 1 of Season 3.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, she pulled it out.
Speaker 1:I did Because it's true Season 3, new Year 2025.
Speaker 2:I gotta remember that and this is our first episode. Then you're still gonna get the background noise.
Speaker 1:Oh no, you're not, we don't hear it, you don't hear it, you don't hear it.
Speaker 2:Sitting here with a heater. Lots of traffic outside, a lot of fans standing out there waving at us, kate's banging the table and we each have a blanket Because it's freezing. It's not freezing.
Speaker 1:I do have my coat on, but it's not freezing, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Alright, we've got to catch people up real quick. Ham, the beauty of ham.
Speaker 1:The beauty of ham. You could do a whole show on ham.
Speaker 2:as far as I'm concerned, we should have done that today.
Speaker 1:We were just talking about delicious ham over the Christmas season and how it keeps giving, because in a lot of different ways. Well, you're gonna have ham a lot of different ways. You just got potatoes and ham, or should just have ham with potatoes, maybe yeah and sandwiches. I put ham in a cheese ball. Uh ham with cheese and crackers, the smoothie, the ham smoothie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cream cheese and ham, you just blend them up.
Speaker 1:Well, that's like cheese ball.
Speaker 2:Put it in a ball, oh, that's right, Boom. But you know they also give in other ways Bloatedness.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:At night.
Speaker 1:It can keep your partner warm, if you know what I mean If you make them with the beans too, you know and there is a difference.
Speaker 2:We had this discussion off air, but I didn't think we should bring it on air because I didn't want to disrupt the relationship with any of our sponsors.
Speaker 1:But then you're doing it anyway.
Speaker 2:It matters between cheap ham and good ham. Oh yeah, you gotta buy, you gotta spend a little extra the 12 cent per pound stuff you might get at Meijer. That's Meijer brand.
Speaker 1:It's too salty and too pressed, whatever that stuff is in there. It's like it's pressed together from ham parts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ham parts.
Speaker 1:You need to buy the ham on the bone. Yes, yeah. Okay, that's all I have to say about ham.
Speaker 2:I got to go back because I've been getting some flack from my family. I made a comment about Easy Cheese. Oh and how Ham and cheese. The off-brand version isn't as good as the craft.
Speaker 1:Yes, I disagreed.
Speaker 2:And I apologize to my family because I got no Easy Cheese for Christmas.
Speaker 1:None, oh, they're like fine, you're going to diss it, you're not getting any. Oh, that came back to bite in the ass.
Speaker 2:I really love Easy Cheese and the brand. I really love Easy Cheese. I think maybe our next episode I'll get a couple different cans While we're on air and we'll try. Does that sound good? Yeah, I love cheese, crackers and cheese and we'll just aerosol the cheese up and give her hell.
Speaker 1:Do we have to put it on crackers? Can we just put it in her mouth? Yeah we could do that.
Speaker 2:Put it on some celery Like ready whip. That's not delicious. Oh yeah, Whippets All right.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's food. You know it was a big food season. We have so many cookies left that I'm going to be really sad when I can't just grab a cookie. If you want to get rid of some of those, all right, I got some in the car, I. I mean, they're not even homemade ones, I don't care. Oh yeah, and sometimes the ones that are not homemade are better than the ones that are homemade.
Speaker 2:Sorry, depends on what home they're made in, I guess.
Speaker 1:I guess. So you don't know what's going in the batter, you don't the dough.
Speaker 2:And I used to take a whole day and make cookies and fudge and now I don't, yeah, well, don't you worry about that in general, with food where it's made.
Speaker 1:If you go to a potluck, you're asking for trouble. It will be delicious, it will be.
Speaker 2:But what did you eat?
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you have cats you?
Speaker 2:know, I don't know. It's always a little sketchy, like you don't know, about the kid at Ponderosa who's pissed off about his job. Yeah, too-y, too-y, flicking a booger in there.
Speaker 1:Oh, I dropped it on the floor. It's fine, put it back up there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fine, jeez.
Speaker 1:All right, so we actually have a topic.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:We do for season three episode one and our topic is the Super Bowl. Oh yeah, yeah, it's that season coming up In about a month, I think is the game.
Speaker 2:How about those Lions.
Speaker 1:The Lions won last night. In that, Gibbs. What's his first name? Jamar?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Jamar Gibbs. Jamar, yeah, jamar, he is a wonder, he's only 22 years old.
Speaker 2:Four touchdowns.
Speaker 1:Four touchdowns.
Speaker 2:I think he rushed for over a thousand yards this yes, yeah, yeah, he hit over a thousand he, he's got potential. Well, he already, he already has.
Speaker 1:I think he's like he's only 22, I mean, he's just a baby and to do all of that, and with a smile on his face, and still be polite and not cocky. He's not a dick, he's a hero.
Speaker 2:He takes a beating too.
Speaker 1:He's a hero. Oh man, he got hit a couple times hard. Yeah, he kind of laid on the ground.
Speaker 2:I thought that game would be closer.
Speaker 1:Well, it was for a while and then no then it wasn't Good stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't want to jinx it. We know it could happen.
Speaker 1:Well, it could happen and they are actually a fact in the Super Bowl facts. What is it? Because the Lions are the only team that hasn't won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:What? No, there's more than that.
Speaker 1:Of the NFC. They're the only NFC team. Okay. In the AFC Cleveland Browns, jacksonville Jaguars and Houston Texans, which those aren't even real teams. Come on, oh boy, they haven't won a Super Bowl. But Jacksonville Jaguars how long have they been a team?
Speaker 2:A while 20 years. Maybe you think I'm making that up. No, I just. They had Maurice Jones Drew. He was an excellent running back. No, no, excellent enough. I might see the Browns win someday.
Speaker 1:They've been around forever. I think they were part of the original. Do you have the list of the originals, because I didn't get that.
Speaker 2:It's like the bears, the lions, the browns.
Speaker 1:I didn't check this fact either, but how many had to change your names? Probably Because you had the Washington Redskins and they're not Redskins anymore. Maybe they were named after a potato.
Speaker 2:We don't know. They didn't have a potato on the helmet, though.
Speaker 1:That would have been awesome. We're all having Redskins after the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was the Redskins and Cowboys. I know it's terrible.
Speaker 1:And Cowboys, but it was always a good rivalry. Is that still okay?
Speaker 2:I don't know, probably not, probably not. What about Patriots? Is that okay, patriots? Lions, that's pretty, offensive Bears, that's a little risque. Are you a bear? Maybe I don't know. I'm a Bears fan.
Speaker 1:I mean you can offend anybody.
Speaker 2:The Kansas City Chiefs? See, I don't think they're, I'm pissing people off right now.
Speaker 1:I don't know. We'll have to look and see if I don't think they're called the Chiefs anymore. Packers.
Speaker 2:What are they packing? What are they packing? It's meat. They're meat packers. They're meat packers. They really are.
Speaker 1:Is that why they were called the Packers?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, no shit.
Speaker 1:They're packing the meat, do it. All right, okay, so that was down further on my list, but when?
Speaker 2:was the first game 1967.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in January, and it was the Green Bay Packers versus the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2:Yep, we'll have to edit that out later. Yeah, versus Kansas.
Speaker 1:City. You know what I didn't write? Who won? Who won that game? We don't know.
Speaker 2:Probably the Packers, because the Lombardi Trophy is named after Vince Lombardi, the old coach of the Packers. That's what they give away when you win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:The Lombardi Trophy. Is that the trophy?
Speaker 2:I just know you get some rings and a trip to Disney.
Speaker 1:Do they still get that? I don't think so.
Speaker 2:That was always weird.
Speaker 1:I'm going to Disneyland. Could you take a shower first?
Speaker 2:Right. They get cars too, don't they, when they win?
Speaker 1:They get a lot of prizes, but you know they worked all year. I guess Whatever they get a lot of prizes, but you know they worked all year, I guess Whatever they get some cash money Back in the day these guys actually had.
Speaker 2:they were meatpackers. They were like they had full-time jobs and then played ball and then played football. And they would smoke cigarettes on the sideline. I mean, like these guys were like.
Speaker 1:They're heavy duty.
Speaker 2:They were probably doing shots and cigarettes In the 60s you could still do that, you could still drink all day Like a madman. Joe Namath. He was famous. The first playboy.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was.
Speaker 2:Broadway, joe, he would party all the time.
Speaker 1:He was a Jets. I believe Was he in the Jets. I think they won the Super Bowl too. I don't know.
Speaker 2:They won yesterday in their game that meant nothing.
Speaker 1:It was actually. It was first called before. It was a Super Bowl. It had the very cumbersome name of AFL NFL World Championship Game, and then somebody went let's just call it the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know well who. Who said that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, who said it? Lamar Hunt. He was the owner of the kansas city chiefs and he was inspired by a toy called the super ball. Oh, I don't make this stuff up.
Speaker 1:Wow, comes from very reliable sources I do know it was the third game or the yeah, the third super bowl when they decided to start calling it the super bowl and then they retroactively said, well, we'll just call those first two the Super Bowl one and two. And so the Super Bowl that's happening on 2-5-25 is number 59. Super Bowl February 5th is when the Super Bowl is coming up.
Speaker 2:Are you betting on the game?
Speaker 1:I usually do. You know why? Because I like football. I've got nothing against it, but I'm not a huge fan. I like football. I got nothing against it, but I'm not a huge fan, and so when I was working, I started a Super Bowl pool and just sold squares for a dollar 100 squares for a dollar, did you keep 50 cents for yourself? I did not, but I won a couple times and people were mad about that I'm like how could I rig this game? Yeah, it was me.
Speaker 1:It was you it was me making the Packers win.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you won $25 at the end of each quarter. If I went into overtime, sorry you're fucked, but it was fun, because then you gave me a reason to watch it and it's like, oh, kim's winning, oh you know whatever. And we did have somebody win like three quarters one time. That was kind of fun, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's really cool.
Speaker 1:But since I haven't been working, I'm not out and about to sell the square.
Speaker 2:What so?
Speaker 1:I haven't done it.
Speaker 2:You're out and about. Don't lie to me.
Speaker 1:I'm not, but I'm not. It was kind of like I could just do it at work.
Speaker 2:Did you?
Speaker 1:get new glasses again. Could just do it at work. Did you get new glasses again? No, these are just cheaters. Oh, I like those. I have like a hundred pairs of cheaters.
Speaker 2:Nice, you always switch it up. But yeah, man, I want to get into something like that. I haven't done that in years.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl. No, the Squares, oh the Squares. I could buy you a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'll just do it online, fanduel.
Speaker 1:FanDuel is is a big one. What was the other one? I saw MGM.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:MGM, I think is a big one. There's so many things you can bet on too. You can bet on If someone's shoe falls off. Yes, basically, With a coin toss, there's just a million things you can bet on, Not just a score. I think the way you make the most money if you're in it for money, which every gambler is is you do the point spread. But I'm not. I don't know how that works. I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 2:to do that, you just need to use Chet GVT and figure it out for you.
Speaker 1:Over $23 billion is placed on bets.
Speaker 2:What if everybody put that money toward curing cancer? Great, Isn't that weird how we just don't do that. Let's just throw it away, Like for one year. If you could get half of the population to say let's give a dollar, we're just not worried.
Speaker 1:Well, when you're president, you can do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, that you're president, you can do that, yeah, okay, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Okay, and there's 67.8 million people bet and they're betting that $23 billion. Okay.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of numbers, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know I see you At the moment I'm thinking yeah, Thinking what team has played the most. Would it be Patriots? Yeah, yeah, because Tom Brady plays for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ten times he's got the most MVP awards Five, ten appearances.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about Tom Brady?
Speaker 2:I like him sometimes, I mean, he's from.
Speaker 1:Michigan.
Speaker 2:I think that's what his ex-wife said I mean, come on, what's that?
Speaker 1:I said I think that's what his ex-wife said.
Speaker 2:I like him. Sometimes Forty-some years old, he played until he was and he treated the old, supposedly Treated the body like a temple kind of thing, didn't put garbage into it. And he treated the body like a temple kind of thing, didn't put garbage into it and it kind of paid off.
Speaker 1:It paid off for him.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go off topic.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm sorry. Not about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:About football though.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And someone who's played in a Super Bowl, aaron Rodgers, who was a quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. There's a documentary on Netflix called Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Enigma and it's actually quite good. Oh, he is an enigma, he's a spacey dude man, like he was having trouble with the Packers, yada, yada, yada, transitioning, getting older, still stayed in great shape, decided that what he needed to do was go to Costa Rica and get on Ayusca, go on an Ayusca trip, you know, and it's just phenomenal how this supposedly changed his life and all this stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, okay, I get a chance all right, aaron rogers check the documentary there was also a really good documentary about mary sanders yes and I knew of him but I didn't know all about him. And he quit when he was in his prime because he's like you know I don't want to die from this and I'm doing okay. My kids are cool.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna quit and everybody's like what pissed everyone off?
Speaker 1:oh my god, everybody hated him for a guy making his own decision.
Speaker 2:He didn't break jim's from jim brown's record. He could have been the only person but and the weird thing though, watching that he's a nice guy and all but what a sleepy mofo he's like, mr.
Speaker 1:He's very laid back yeah he's like super laid back.
Speaker 2:He must have been on high.
Speaker 1:And for a football player, you'd think they'd have to get, you know, worked up. Now I want to mention one other football player while we're off topic of the Super Bowl. I do not know if he has been in the Super Bowl, but Billy Sims.
Speaker 2:We need to check and see who I loved Billy Sims.
Speaker 1:Well, he has the best barbecue sauce in the world.
Speaker 2:Does he really?
Speaker 1:In the world. I've tried a lot. I don't like ketchup, I like barbecue sauce. Billy, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Billy Sims, billy Sims barbecue sauce and run I saw when he got his hip screwed up.
Speaker 1:That was it.
Speaker 2:And then he said fucking, I'm going to barbecue sauce four years and then said yeah, let's make some.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but I hope he's making money off of it because it is delicious. Uh, I buy it locally, just set like a meyer billy sims probably at wal. You can probably buy it online. So if I can get it, it's readily available. I mean, I live in BFE.
Speaker 2:What's the weirdest thing? You put barbecue sauce on, or like people would be, like what the?
Speaker 1:gate. No, I just use it instead of ketchup.
Speaker 2:I don't like ketchup, so you use it on fries.
Speaker 1:Fries and burgers.
Speaker 2:Hot dogs, burgers, hot dogs what's the weirdest? People catch up on everything.
Speaker 1:I like it on a taco Eggs.
Speaker 2:Taco On a taco, that's nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is nice, I don't like not on eggs, no, I'm kind of hungry too.
Speaker 2:Back to your friend Barry Sanders, who didn't play in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:One thing that Super Bowls have a lot of is the dancing, the celebratory.
Speaker 2:Dancing super bowls have a lot of is the dancing and the the celebratory dancing and the you know how.
Speaker 1:What's your stance on players celebrating? I think you know they earn it and do a little dance. But I think I think this actually happened that it got out of control and they were hiring choreographers and it was just it was lasting longer than you know it should. So I thought they nipped it in the bud and said don't do that.
Speaker 2:But now I see they're doing it a little bit. And one thing Barry Sanders never did he never showboated, he handed the ball to the ref. Yes, and that's it, because he's a class act. I miss that stuff.
Speaker 1:I did see that Gibbs after a second he threw the ball in the stands.
Speaker 2:Yep Probably got fined for that.
Speaker 1:Really yeah, oh.
Speaker 2:He's probably like fuck it, I don't care, I like him.
Speaker 1:And then whoever caught it and got that ball was very happy about it, so he made someone's day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he probably put it on eBay today, probably what team has lost the most Super Bowls?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know right offhand, because I have messy, messy notes.
Speaker 2:Broncos, oh the. Broncos really they used to be my favorite team. You didn't like the Broncos. You lived in Denver, didn't you?
Speaker 1:I did not. I have relatives in Colorado Same thing. Yeah, they were very Bronco-ish, Like they painted their faces one time. I think that's going a little overboard.
Speaker 2:What do you know about the cities that have hosted the Super Bowl the most?
Speaker 1:Well, miami. I know has hosted the most. Do you think it's because it's warm there.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know why it is warm there.
Speaker 1:It is, and this year it's in New Orleans, so they have some challenges going on there.
Speaker 2:You know, we should have looked up. Oh yeah, how are they going to do that?
Speaker 1:Well, they say, they can do it.
Speaker 2:We should have researched this, but maybe one of our listeners will email us at heroordick2023 at gmailcom. That's it. How do they make that decision? Is it the commission, like the?
Speaker 1:group of owners. I don't know who gets to make that decision, but they know well in advance. Like next year, the 60th one is in California, like San Diego or San Francisco, San Diego.
Speaker 2:I think I believe it. Los Angeles, I think it's somewhere. No, it's probably San Diego.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's LA, I don't know, but it's in California. And the winners if you win the Super Bowl, you get bank man. You get a ring worth like $35,000. Okay, so you're going to wear that to the grocery store. Yeah, $1,000. Okay, so you're going to wear that to the grocery store. Yeah, you get a bonus. You get like a 200. This year it's like 200K, which is probably peanuts to them. Whatever, it's a nice little bonus, but I mean they can buy a car or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, donate it.
Speaker 1:Give some money to their baby mamas.
Speaker 2:Buy some barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1:It's a sort some barbecue sauce, start a barbecue sauce and you know I thought what was interesting is losers get a lot too.
Speaker 2:Yeah they do.
Speaker 1:They get a bonus of almost $100,000. They actually get a ring, I think the loser ring. Yeah, I don't want that. And everyone gets a participation medal. Like you're in second grade, good job, everyone nice. Everyone gets a participation medal. Like you're in second grade, good job, everyone gets a medal. That's why we're playing, you know what?
Speaker 2:else they else get though.
Speaker 1:What else get?
Speaker 2:It's my stroke kicking back in the oh, it really ups their stock If you make it to a Super Bowl the next year. Other teams are looking at you, especially coaching staffs. I think they feel bad.
Speaker 1:Coaching staffs and players, for sure, but they also just a paraphernalia. It's not called paraphernalia, it's called. That's after the game the merchandise Right, merch, all the merchandise and everything can be merchandise anymore. I mean they make Bobblehead dolls. Oh, of course, jerseys, jerseys, shoes, I mean anything. Clothing, including underwear, and stupid stuff. Budweiser is the biggest Commercial.
Speaker 2:Advertiser. Well, you know what I mean the teams. They all get little team. What the fuck am I trying to say? Team themed beer, you know, like the Detroit Lion cans. Oh, so they make like the yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's got to be a lot of money right there, Budweiser. Well, we'll talk about ads in a minute, but they do the most advertising over the years. What else do we want to say about the winners and the losers? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I think we're good. Alright halftime shows. Let's talk about that it started out with always was a marching band, da-da-da, which was traditional. Then in the 90s. In the 90s, the headliners started showing up. Some of them were very 90s Gloria, estefan, clint Black, new Kids on the Block, but then they got Michael Jackson. That was a big thing, yep. And then they had Nipplegate what year was that?
Speaker 2:That was 2004. And if you're not familiar with that, that's when Justin Tibergly rip her booby sock off. He ripped her something. Yeah, did you watch that?
Speaker 1:I was watching that with my daughter, who was young.
Speaker 2:They bleeped it right On the live thing? I don't think so. During my research I watched the thing again and they did it in slow motion that kind of looked all like it was choreographed.
Speaker 1:It was staged, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It was totally staged Like why would you want to show your tit to the whole?
Speaker 1:world. Well, I think it was a falsie. Whatever, I don't know it still looked like one. I don't know why you would want to do it, but people are still talking about it, so maybe that's why you want to do it.
Speaker 2:Glad we're not talking about it it 2012, mia. They sing that really cool song about paper planes or whatever. Remember that. She flipped off the camera, oh she did During a performance.
Speaker 1:Why would she do that? She's not just an angry person, she's raging against the machine Kate. I like rage against the machine.
Speaker 2:I do too. Oh, you think they would do the show.
Speaker 1:No, no, rolling Stones did a gaga. My favorite, my personal favorite, was when Prince was on there. That guy was great, he was, he was fucking great, the most popular. I do In his honor. The most popular, though, was when Shakira and J-Lo were shaking their buns on there.
Speaker 2:That's just a lot of ass shaking there.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of butt.
Speaker 2:That's too much butt for one stage.
Speaker 1:And this year it's going to be Kendrick Lamar, and this year it's going to be Kendrick Lamar, and I can't tell you a thing about him, so you'll have to Google him on your own. Why?
Speaker 2:don't they have Pearl Jam on? There Were they on there, no, but why don't they have them on?
Speaker 1:there they're kind of dated now.
Speaker 2:Don't say that.
Speaker 1:I'm saying it because it's true. I'm not saying I don't like them. My heart just dropped. Are they going to sing, daughter? What are they going?
Speaker 2:to sing out there. Given to Fly would be a good one. Better man, better man. I'm with you, but they have Kendrick Lamar will be playing. And the.
Speaker 1:Star Spangled Banner. Star Spangled Banner, which is the worst national song out of everybody's. It should be America the Beautiful, but it will be sung by John batiste, who is from louisiana. Who's that? He was, uh, the, the band leader for colbert and then he left and he's huge. He's huge. You know who he is, hold, if I know who he is, you know who he is. He's okay. He's a very talented person.
Speaker 2:I believe you and he's from Louisiana. What else you got about?
Speaker 1:Halftime. That's what else you got.
Speaker 2:I got some mishaps about game day. But I don't want to get too far off track.
Speaker 1:No, you can. That's all I have to say about the halftime shows. Do you remember?
Speaker 2:that in 2013, there was a blackout for 34 minutes in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. Really, I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
Speaker 1:For that long I think. I kind of remember it, but I don't remember it being for half hour.
Speaker 2:That's a long time what?
Speaker 1:happened.
Speaker 2:I don't know, power went out Sabotage. No team ever played in their own home stadium until the Tampa Bay Buccaneers won in 2021.
Speaker 1:Well, of course they're going to win in their home thing. What's that Home arena?
Speaker 2:Well, of course they're going to win in their home thing, home arena Gatorade. Showers began in the 1980s with the little parcels, when they started winning the playoffs.
Speaker 1:I don't like that either. You don't like it, I do not.
Speaker 2:You don't like Gatorade, or you don't like the showers Both.
Speaker 1:Okay, to me, gatorade is like drinking a block of salt and I get it.
Speaker 2:It's electrolytes.
Speaker 1:If you are an athlete, you probably need that Sure. I rarely need that.
Speaker 2:Maybe if I have the flu, especially if you're eating ham.
Speaker 1:I was drinking.
Speaker 2:Propel Putting that shit back in my body. Yeah, speaking of health concerns, kate, what Research indicates that there's an increase in heart attacks around the Super Bowl because people get all jacked up?
Speaker 1:Because they're adrenaline and they're excited and it's cold out and they shovel snow and then they die.
Speaker 2:But what?
Speaker 1:about. See, I've heard that this is a thing, but then I've heard it's not that there is more physical abuse hey, Domestic abuse yes, that's what I found too. But then I've heard that's not that there is more physical abuse hey, Domestic abuse yes, that's what I found too, but then I've heard that's a myth.
Speaker 2:Well, wives get pretty mad at their husbands during this time, and they beat the shit out of them as they should. That's what they should do.
Speaker 1:But that's probably not what happens.
Speaker 2:But guys get, it's just drunk People get drunk and do stupid shit, Come on.
Speaker 1:Put your shirt on. Okay, let's talk about ads. The most famous, iconic one is, in 1980, mean Joe Green in the Coca-Cola.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with the kid he was looking at you kid.
Speaker 1:No, hey, kid Catch.
Speaker 2:Same. Thing.
Speaker 1:He was looking at you.
Speaker 2:That's that one dude. He was looking at you, kid.
Speaker 1:That's Humphrey Bogart from Casablanca.
Speaker 2:That's not Mean Joe Green, that is not Mean Joe Green.
Speaker 1:That's like the opposite of Mean Joe Green.
Speaker 2:What team did he play for?
Speaker 1:He played for the Pittsburgh Steelers you are well-researched. I am. I knew that right off the top of my head. Nice job it had Lynn Swann, Franco they got grit.
Speaker 2:Who does the Lions?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's what they said about the Lions. Pittsburgh Steelers. Terry Bradshaw oh, that guy's crazy now, though, because he got hit too many times.
Speaker 2:I like him. What about the commercials?
Speaker 1:Some other famous ones that were debuted at the Super Bowl is Where's the Beef? The Bud Bowl.
Speaker 2:Wendy's.
Speaker 1:The E-Trade babies that the 1984 apple commercial really kicked it off did it yeah, it did, which I never really got that commercial I was 11 uh, brager, 1993 was space jam and um, space jam, space jam, the movie, oh yeah, yeah. And then in 2011, I thought this one was very clever the VW with the kid dressed up like Star Wars the Force and he thought he was commanding the VW and it was really appearance with the remote.
Speaker 1:I liked that one and, as we mentioned before, budweiser, has done the most advertising. They probably make the most money out of it.
Speaker 2:They sell 50 million cases of beer on Super Bowl weekend.
Speaker 1:Good for them.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what to say about that.
Speaker 1:I don't like. Budweiser is what I'm going to say.
Speaker 2:Super Bowl Sunday is the second largest day for food consumption in the United States Nachos, man, chicken, wings pizza, ketchup tacos.
Speaker 1:Ketchup tacos? That's not a thing. Guacamole, oh, guacamole yeah. You can buy avocados, this for the next two or three weeks for a good price. Yeah, I love Guam.
Speaker 2:Chicken wings were on sale at Meijer Regular $17.99 for $7.99. Wow, I'm not kidding you, they're getting ready. I got two bags, did you? And Brooke said why we already have a bag. Get them.
Speaker 1:Get them while you can, they're frozen right?
Speaker 2:I hope, yeah, Yep you got it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, duly noted, all right. So anything else you want to add to Super Bowl?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to keep talking about it. All right, do it. The ticket cost oh, I bet that's risen. The first Super Bowl was 12 bucks, but how much was that back then?
Speaker 1:I mean, can we look that up?
Speaker 2:Where's Nathan? I'll look it up. Oh, I can't Believe it or not, but now they're $5,000 for standard seats.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, that's a lot.
Speaker 2:And when I thought, okay, $12, but back in 1967, $12 was probably about $375.
Speaker 1:Well, let's see In 1967? Yeah Is worth today $113.35. Very reasonable, yeah, Really In 67, not too bad it's. Very reasonable. Yeah, really it's a big difference from $5,000. And $5,000, that's for the standing.
Speaker 2:That's for the seats, so anyway.
Speaker 1:They make a lot of money. Somebody does, who's they, I don't know, but somebody's making some money.
Speaker 2:I don't know if this is still correct, but this is the reason they're probably making so much money, aside from selling seats is that the Super Bowl holds the record for the most watched television event in history 114 million people watched it. Wow, there's got to be somebody watching more. That was 2015 is the last thing I could find because I got an old computer.
Speaker 1:Well, no, that sounds right. Anything else yes, kate, oh my gosh, I like football, we else. Yes, kate, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I like football. We're running long on time.
Speaker 1:I like football too.
Speaker 2:But listen back to the betting thing Okay. The team that wins the coin toss has a record of 25 wins, 33 losses and 57 Super Bowls.
Speaker 1:And see, that's something you could bet on right there.
Speaker 2:Yep and from 2014 to 2022, the teams that won the coin toss lost the game eight times in a row.
Speaker 1:That's all I got. Everybody. Have a good night, Okay. Well, I just want to say I had a good segue for one of your things when you said however many million people watch that game. Is that when I have to choose hero or dick, I would say hero because it kind of brings all fat Americans together for one night.
Speaker 2:To get fatter.
Speaker 1:To get fatter, to eat food and root your team on, but please be polite. If your team doesn't win, don't be a dick. Love one another.
Speaker 2:That's all I am practicing. One of my Wait. No, you were the one that was going to be nicer.
Speaker 1:I started mindfulness yesterday mindfulness, kate, like right now all I'm focusing on is the microphone.
Speaker 2:Too much caffeine and your new glasses and put your phone down don't look at your phone while you're talking to me.
Speaker 1:thank you. Let's do our fast fives, okay, because they're football related too.
Speaker 2:Wait, superhero, oh yeah. What do you say? Superhero? Superhero or super dick? That's a hero. Yeah, I'm not going to be some negative.
Speaker 1:It's all commercialized Well it is and there, yeah, it's fun. But overall I say Hero, how about referees? What do you think?
Speaker 2:I think Hero is oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:That referee last night on the Lions who they play the Vikings. He was so calm and so together the whole game.
Speaker 2:Dude, I don't know their signs, so their hand signs, but he goes home and kicks his dog probably well, I want to say too there's a lot of damn rules with this game, yeah.
Speaker 1:And just when you think you know them all, it's like no, you can't do that because my mother's hair was in curlers in 1973 and we made that rule. So all right, heroes.
Speaker 2:Heroes Tough job.
Speaker 1:How about Instant Replay? Although I wrote it down as Instance Replay, is it?
Speaker 2:Instant Replay oh, instance, instance, same thing. It says Incense, incense. Replay I like those too.
Speaker 1:You know that's a tough one.
Speaker 2:It is heroic because it can really save a game.
Speaker 1:It has. Just think when they didn't have it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of dickish things happened.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of referees probably weren't the heroes.
Speaker 2:They were Getting paid and they probably.
Speaker 1:I'm guessing they like the instant replay because it makes their jobs easier.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:How can you see everything that's going on?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, good point.
Speaker 1:So I'll say hero on that.
Speaker 2:I probably won't even need refs one day with the cameras and AI, it'll just be AI. Yeah, and will you need players? No, we'll just operate it With your mind.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking about it now. Alright, how about challenge flag? I think that's cool too. I do too, I agree. How about cheerleaders? I could that's cool too. I do too, I agree. How about cheerleaders? Uh, I could care less. Actually I don't think they're needed anymore. Sorry, cheerleaders I'm not saying they're male or female or they're not dead, but you know what wait?
Speaker 2:I stop because you know a lot of those cheerleaders are like teachers and that's not a full-time job for some of them well, okay, but does that make them that make it okay? I don't know I don't know either I will give cheerleaders this.
Speaker 1:It is the most physical sport out there, I mean they're getting thrown up in the air.
Speaker 2:They're coming down, hopefully somebody showed the cheerleaders doing that. They don't show them anymore.
Speaker 1:But and uh, I just caught a glimpse of the cheerleaders on camera last night. They have full-out sweatsuits on. They're not shaking their DNA. This is 2025. So I'm so not into dicks.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And then how about expansion on TV? Because it's on every channel. It's not just Monday night football or Sunday football, it is every night, sunday, monday, thursday, saturday. Saturday, saturday night, sunday. Whenever they want to have it Whenever we feel like having it. I guess, I don't know, it doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 1:I'll say it's dickish?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean say it's dickish.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean, I don't know, I don't really care.
Speaker 2:You got to say something.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll say Hero, okay. Yeah, sounds great. More channels, more people can watch it, maybe. Okay. So, overall, pretty much Heroes. But we are big fat Americans who like our football. Yes, even people like me who aren't into football still like my football.
Speaker 2:I was so proud of you when you came in today and you pushed everyone aside here in the studio.
Speaker 1:You're like I watched football last night. I'm playing football, you watched it. I would never play it. Oh my god, I don't think I'd let my kid play football.
Speaker 2:I know we didn't let Julian play, so goes.
Speaker 1:Will you let Jovi play?
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:But not Julian. Yep, she could be a kicker, I bet She'd be a good kicker.
Speaker 2:She could be a good runner Run with the ball yeah.
Speaker 1:Be a quarterback, well, but then sometimes you get hit that will be interesting when the NFL because there's female refs now. Yes, I didn't see any last night, that's right, we did.
Speaker 2:They will have some from the Super.
Speaker 1:Bowl. Oh, I bet they will. They've got to get their representation. I bet they will.
Speaker 2:And that's great. But the day will be really cool if you do see a woman playing quarterback in football.
Speaker 1:That would be. We'll see if we live to see that day. We won't. No, I don't think so. I'm going to have a president who's a woman.
Speaker 2:Alright, reel it back in. Okay, I know you're excited to talk about the inauguration, but we better get off the air. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:Okay, alright. Thanks everyone for listening. Bye-bye.