Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 6 - Roseanne Barr

Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! This time around, Kate & KJ discuss Roseanne Barr.

How does a groundbreaking comedian who transformed television representation become one of the most divisive voices in American culture? 

Tune in to find out.

Thanks for listening!

~ Kate & KJ

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome to Season 3
• 1:35 Introducing Roseanne: Early Life & Career
• 8:12 Rise to Comedy Stardom
• 13:40 From Sitcom Success to Controversy
• 18:32 Political Shifts and Twitter Troubles
• 21:30 Hero or Dick? The Final Verdict
• 24:37 80s Comedy Fast Five

Transcript

Welcome to Season 3

Speaker 1 0:01

Now and we're on. Hey Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to Season 3. Can you say, ladies and gentlemen, anymore? Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 0:10

Yeah, we can say whatever we want. Yeah mother, Nobody's listening. Remember.

Speaker 1 0:15

Welcome to Hero or Dick.

Speaker 2 0:16

Season 3,.

Speaker 1 0:17

Episode 6. Little technical difficulties as usual, as usual. I bought the part that we needed for our headsets but not really, but I bought the wrong one. My wife's gonna like that. Just throwing money down the toilet can you return it?

Speaker 2 0:34

oh, you probably don't have all this stuff. And plus it's like how much was it?

Speaker 1 0:38

six bucks yeah, I don't know, and then it was washing down the street because we just had a flash flood. Yeah, it was pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah, sitting here I got tuna fish breath smell like coffee.

Speaker 2 0:51

I got, mustard I got mustard on my shirt. Wow, you're a mess, Sorry Wow.

Speaker 1 1:03

Speaking of mess. What's our?

Speaker 2 1:06

topic today, roseanne Bar. Is she somebody who just gets one name, like if you say Roseanne, People know it.

Speaker 1 1:13

She's like Cher.

Speaker 2 1:15

Well, I would beg to differ there. She's like she has one name like that. Yeah, sia, who's that? What?

Speaker 1 1:24

One, two, three drink that song. Sia Chandelier, that's a great song.

Speaker 2 1:31

I'm sorry, I don't know that. I don't know that. I'm not even sorry for not knowing that.

Speaker 1 1:35

Now we chose Roseanne, because why?

Speaker 2 1:39

did we Do something different? It was my fault. Yeah, you, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:41

Why did I do that? You asked me a question.

Speaker 2 1:43

I don't know. I'm like, what should we do next time? Let's do Roseanne Barr, okay.

Speaker 1 1:48

And I don't even know. Fence Roseanne. I know she's probably listening, but I uh, I never was a fan of her before. Well not even that show.

Speaker 2 1:57

Uh, I will say, and we will find out as we get into it. You know um, I think that early on she was very influential she was.

Speaker 1 2:08

What do you call that? A trailblazer for women?

Speaker 2 2:11

she was she was, and she didn't have an easy life. She's born jewish in salt lake city, right there, ma'am, you're a jew in a mormon city, son of a bitch. Eh, I guess I don't know. I don't know either.

Speaker 1 2:24

You ever been there?

Speaker 2 2:25

Salt Lake City yeah.

Speaker 1 2:28

Jewish that too, neither.

Speaker 2 2:30

No, no, I've never been to. I've been through Utah but not spent time. It's beautiful there. It looks beautiful.

Speaker 1 2:39

Seems like it, I'll have to visit it. I gotta stop making these major Right you get a.

Speaker 2 2:45

I think a lot of places you get a preconceived you know whatever the cliche is about the city, like if you go to Detroit you're going to get murdered, that's. I've been to Detroit.

Speaker 1 2:55

I haven't been murdered yet I haven't been, or have we both been?

Speaker 2 2:59

Oh, and now we're just here.

Speaker 1 3:00

Hanging out in the afterlife.

Speaker 2 3:01

Oh my gosh, Very sixth sense of you, man. Anyhow, all right, there's something to think about.

Speaker 1 3:09

No, she did have, and she didn't have it easy.

Speaker 2 3:13

She dropped out of high school when she was just 17.

Speaker 1 3:15

Well, what about the accident?

Speaker 2 3:17

And then she got in a bad car accident and I think that really screwed her up, caused her brain damage. Yeah, cost her brain damage. Yeah, yeah, enough that she was. It said she had nightmares of memory loss so severe that she was admitted to a mental institution had to give up her baby and well, that came a little later they said that it was part of it.

Speaker 2 3:37

I thought she left after a year to the mental institution. But that's a long time to spend in a mental institution, especially if you're only 17 to begin with, that's a big part of your life.

Speaker 1 3:48

How long do you think you can do it now, like if they dropped you off?

Speaker 2 3:50

Oh, do you have insurance?

Speaker 1 3:52

No, I mean just to see if you could do it.

Speaker 2 3:55

How long do you think I?

Speaker 1 3:57

could last in a mental institution. You personally could last at Point East.

Speaker 2 4:00

Wow, Well, I don't know and I hope I don't have to know.

Speaker 1 4:05

You think we could do a show from there? No, not in a bad way, but I think maybe out in the hall.

Speaker 2 4:12

Maybe I will be there or you will be there, I'm definitely going and I'll come and meet you and say I'm here to do the podcast.

Speaker 1 4:19

I'm headed there, Kate.

Speaker 2 4:21

No shame.

Speaker 1 4:22

Okay, so what else about her? So?

Speaker 2 4:24

then, after she left there, she was 17, maybe 18, and she had a baby who was a girl.

Speaker 1 4:31

Brandy.

Speaker 2 4:31

And she put her up for adoption and 17 years later, this kid comes back to claim her Brandy. Is that her name, Brandy?

Speaker 1 4:42

She's a fine girl, brandy Brown.

Speaker 2 4:44

Brandy.

Speaker 1 4:45

Brown, brandy Ann Brown, no, that's not a real name. I swear to God. Brandy Ann Brown.

Speaker 2 4:49

Is she a stripper?

Speaker 1 4:51

Not anymore. She's back, connected with her rich mother, with her net worth of $89.

Speaker 2 4:55

So, after she did the adoption thing, um, um, that's funny. Speaking of mental, my therapist just texted me. So after that, though, she worked as a dishwasher what? Really and then a waitress and that hurt her snarky. You know. Comebacks to customers got her going in comedy clubs on open mic night so people like went to see her.

Speaker 1 5:28

Yeah, and she lived in colorado.

Speaker 2 5:31

She went to colorado for she said I'm going for two weeks and she never went back. She never came home and she was in colorado springs area at some point in the early 80s because my sisters lived there hey south, hey kath and um they saw her as a as an upcoming comedian oh cool yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 2 5:54

so she did that in the early 80s, um, and worked comedy clubs around that area, and she also got married and had three kids around this time too. Then she got her big break, where people used to get their big break for, especially comedians Probably bands too, but especially comedians when do you get your big break, I'm asking you. Like a long time ago on the Tonight Show.

Speaker 1 6:23

Oh yes, If you were on.

Speaker 2 6:24

The Tonight Show, and especially then if Johnny asked you to come and sit on the couch you made it. You made it.

Speaker 1 6:31

You're there, you're there.

Speaker 2 6:34

And so she did that, and that was in 85. And then in 1986, so she was really gaining momentum. She performed with Rodney Dangerfield. No respect, no respect. I love Rodney dangerfield. No respect, no respect. I love rodney dangerfield wait wait, wait.

Speaker 1 6:49

What was the show he was in that? Back to school, back to school, good old rodney.

Speaker 2 6:54

He was on a lot of things that were. He is funny he's.

Speaker 1 6:58

I yeah, I think he's hilarious his whole as mannerisms and just anyway.

Speaker 2 7:02

Yeah, I'm here to sidetrack you then she was on david letterman and then she got her own again. This for the time. This was a. This is how you knew you made it as a comedian. You got an hbo special in 1987 she got a hbo special um uh and then um oh, she was at that time too. She was offered the peg bundy role on married with children, which I think she could have pulled that off, but I love katie seagal is that her name?

Speaker 1 7:38

yes what's katie seagal? No wrong is that steven se's.

Speaker 2 7:42

No, she's not related to him? No, because she's way cooler than him. What?

Speaker 1 7:47

Nobody's cooler than Steven Seagal Katie.

Speaker 2 7:49

Seagal. We should have done the show on her. She's a cool lady. So she was a backup singer for Bette Midler and then she did some acting and she was Peg Bundy and then she was the matriarch on sons of anarchy, and she was so good were you doing research on her instead of no. I just know this about her because I kind of like I guess I'm stalking her.

Rise to Comedy Stardom

Speaker 2 8:11

Oh shit, yeah, whatever man, your knowledge about pop culture people is just, it's up there so roseanne's thing was she did her act and her big thing was she called herself a domestic goddess, yeah, and her her comedy was she called herself a domestic goddess, yeah, and her her comedy was very blue collar, so I think a lot of people could relate to it, sure, uh. So then she got her sitcom and it was funny, but it was really harsh reality, yep, and. But that was her personality and she, um, she did blaze the trail because she wasn't a skinny housewife like Mary Tyler Moore or you know whoever.

Speaker 1 8:53

Or the Bewitched Lady.

Speaker 2 8:56

Yeah, what's her name? I?

Speaker 1 8:57

don't know. Elizabeth Montgomery, oh, that's what it was. Look at you.

Speaker 2 9:01

I know.

Speaker 1 9:01

Knocking them down.

Speaker 2 9:02

I've got memory. Today you hit me on a good day, but she was different from all of those people and I think, because she was so real, people related to her and as she is in this show, she also got a reputation of being difficult. So are you difficult? No, because she refused to say certain lines. I looked for a specific instance and I couldn't find one, but I believe she did. She just said no, Roseanne wouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 9:37

Oh, I guess.

Speaker 2 9:38

My character wouldn't say that Okay, and she refused, and the show lasted nine years, so she must have been doing something right.

Speaker 1 9:49

She won an Emmy, didn't she? I?

Speaker 2 9:50

mean, in the end it was kind of jumping the shark, you know.

Speaker 1 9:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2 9:53

I don't know. Then they won the lottery and then oh, it was just a dream.

Speaker 1 9:57

And then now the show came back right. I didn't even watch it then.

Speaker 2 10:00

But I did watch it at the beginning and I thought it was funny. John Goodman was hilarious as her husband and they were such a perfect match. And her kids were real kids. They weren't, you know, perfect little children, they were real.

Speaker 1 10:15

Yeah.

Speaker 2 10:16

Yeah. So then something changed. I don't know, was it when she hooked up with Tom Arnold?

Speaker 1 10:26

There was some controversy there. Is that his name, Tom Arnold? Yeah.

Speaker 2 10:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1 10:30

Cokehead.

Speaker 2 10:32

I don't care for Tom Arnold. So was it then? Or was it when she croaked out the 1990 Star Spangled Banner at the baseball game? Yeah, you know, that's one thing to not sing it correctly and nicely, but then she grabbed a crotch at the end of it. Yeah, and it's like, eh, that was Jumping the Shark too. I think, yeah, that was over the line she was trying to get. She was trying to use comedy and it wasn't funny.

Speaker 1 11:04

Right. You know, sometimes there's a time and a place.

Speaker 2 11:08

There is, and sometimes people think it's funny or improvise and hope it will be funny, and it's not.

Speaker 1 11:15

Well, here's the funny thing she can do that for the national anthem. But you know, people had a big deal, a few players kneeling.

Speaker 2 11:25

Yeah, I have more problem with her than them so interesting. If they want to take a knee, that's fine.

Speaker 1 11:33

But I mean, whatever she did, what she did and she got attention for it.

Speaker 2 11:37

Yes, she did.

Speaker 1 11:38

And I think that's part of her shtick too is go to our bed and get attention.

Speaker 2 11:42

Maybe she is a needy person who just needs attention. Mm-hmm, maybe she is a needy person who just needs attention.

Speaker 1 11:47

Be it bad or good Talented, though. Yeah, she thinks she's a musician too, though you know she did a rap for a recent song supporting Trump. I didn't hear that.

Speaker 2 11:58

And so here's the other thing when she did that Star-Spangled Banner I mean everybody, especially right people on the right, said that it was just disgusting. You know how she, how she, you know, um, how would you say it how she abused that song and it was just disgusting in that now they're all her friends.

Speaker 1 12:25

Well, and it's acceptable, apparently, Apparently, especially if you're in a very high place of leadership. Okay, let's say that I'm sorry, I'll stop. I'll stop.

Speaker 2 12:37

So then my next question is maybe it was when she switched political parties? She went from Democrat to Republican, to Peace and Freedom Party.

Speaker 1 12:46

She ran and she ran 2012, right as president.

Speaker 2 12:50

Yeah, and she got she didn't win In 2012. She didn't win, but she got on the ballot in three states and got over 50K votes 50,000 votes. Now she's a Trump supporter and in 2016, she called Trump the first woman president, which I don't understand.

Speaker 1 13:10

Women for Trump. He was the first woman president, though he is. Maybe he's trance, I don't know. That'd be something I think his wife's a guy. I think he's a fucking Cheeto.

Speaker 2 13:22

A Cheeto. I better take that out, all right.

Speaker 1 13:26

Yeah, let's get back to I. Better take that out.

From Sitcom Success to Controversy

Speaker 2 13:27

All right, so it has to be. So. It could be any one of those times but it has to be by this time when she insulted people, and not just insulted them, but was mean and racially, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 13:42

Bigotry, calling the lady like a.

Speaker 2 13:45

Calling Valerie Jaret, the child of a Muslim brotherhood in the planet of the apes. That's not. You don't need to ever do that. Call somebody that. And now she kisses Trump's ass, the guy who called her disgraceful until she supported him for president.

Speaker 1 14:07

Well, it's all about loyalty.

Speaker 2 14:09

I guess she did say that she had hurt feelings because she is a magna devotee, but now she complains that Trump and his people call me a loose cannon and he hurt my feelings Like what You're playing that game.

Speaker 1 14:29

Yeah, what do you think is going to?

Speaker 2 14:29

happen. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Now she. Do you want to say anything more about her past?

Speaker 1 14:37

Oh, I like that she moved to Hawaii to have a macadamia nut farm.

Speaker 2 14:40

She did and she still does have that place. She works on it.

Speaker 1 14:43

And she said she did move there Because, I don't know, she probably wouldn't be a bad person to sit down and have a drink with. No, I mean she'd probably be fun, and down to earth, I think.

Speaker 2 14:52

I would think so.

Speaker 1 14:53

yeah, you know and she said she moved to Hawaii. I mean, I haven't seen her spread. It's probably pretty nice, but to get away from the Hollywood phoniness. So she owns like half the island. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 15:08

48 acres is a lot, but I don't know what island it's on either. I'm not sure it's not on the big island, I don't think, but she does still have that place. But she actually lives in Texas now.

Speaker 1 15:21

Because her son Everybody moved to Texas.

Speaker 2 15:23

Her son. Maybe Did she have a kid with Tom Arnold. Yeah, I think so Maybe it's a kid with Tom Arnold. So it's her youngest son. It must be. And what was his name? Joshua or Jason or something like that, and she Jake. She does a weekly podcast with him, which I meant to listen to it, but I did not. I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 15:45

I'll check it out yeah, she does a weekly podcast with her son, jake. I have no idea what their topics are or if they have a theme or whatever. She lives in texas, in the hill country, and she lives I think she lives with the son and wife and grandkids, oh, and she's still writing scripts. Um, the last thing I read about her was she was considering a move to palm beach because she loves it there so much. Oh, but we have to backtrack a little bit. So she got rosanne. The show rosanne wrote rebooted, yeah, and then all the almost all the original cast and then she was fired for that racist Twitter and on the show they killed her off. So I mean, she's not coming back.

Speaker 2 16:37

No Well, unless it's all a dream and the show continued, and they're just wrapping up seven years that's impressive. Yeah, that is that. They went on without her.

Speaker 1 16:46

I don't know, know they referenced her. I never really watched a lot, though, about the fact, because that was her idea. It was her idea in her show what kept going without her, or if she's still got money I don't know.

Speaker 2 16:55

So I wonder yeah, does she get residuals from that show?

Speaker 1 16:59

syndication for anything, maybe um she's got money, I'm not worried about her um rex, our just handed me a note and he said that she has real estate in El Segundo, california. Okay, including a $3.3 million home and a commercial studio. Oh yeah, to do what, whatever she does.

Speaker 2 17:19

Well, I guess yeah.

Speaker 1 17:21

Get ready for 2028, probably, probably, probably. She has supported several causes, causes. Would you like to know some of them?

Speaker 2 17:30

yes, I would, because look at the sun, it was just torrential rain.

Speaker 1 17:34

When, when you had to go, outside and now that you're inside, it's sunny, so um acorn advocacy for low and modern income families.

Speaker 2 17:47

Okay, that sounds like a good thing.

Speaker 1 17:50

My wife just sent me a message.

Speaker 2 17:52

Oh good, hey Brooke.

Speaker 1 17:53

Hello Brooke. Comic relief, that was for supporting poverty and homelessness oh, not supporting it, but trying to get rid of it. Animal rights activism in New York City oh, called NYC class or New York Class, something like that.

Speaker 2 18:11

And the Trevor Project, it's suicide prevention services for LGBTQ oh, wow See, and if you're mega, I guess I would just assume you're against all of that.

Speaker 1 18:20

Shame on us. We shouldn't think that way.

Speaker 2 18:22

I guess.

Political Shifts and Twitter Troubles

Speaker 1 18:22

so Well, I'm making assumptions and I can't do that, I shouldn't do that, nope, but nine times out of 20. Um, she studied kabbalah.

Speaker 2 18:34

Oh, she's also tried to get very spiritual, probably because the old you know well sometimes everybody should I think everybody at a certain age thinks you know, should I be believing in something?

Speaker 1 18:46

do you? No, I mean uh not yet I haven't found it.

Speaker 2 18:50

Yet. There's I don't get, most organized religion is just I. I guess it's just over my head I don't know, I just don't get it no, I really like the pope that died, though he was a good guy was he yeah, pope francis, rest in peace. Yeah, that jd vance killed. You met with him the day before, did he?

Speaker 1 19:14

really he did oh my god, did they do an autopsy? You know, we should start doing like a conspiracy podcast. It would do really well.

Speaker 2 19:22

Oh, my god, yes, let's just start making shit up, all right, well? Well, it seems to me that you can do that now you can, and if it's true, it's true.

Speaker 1 19:30

If it's not, it's not.

Speaker 2 19:31

Right Prove me wrong People prove me wrong, but that Pope was cool. He is the Pope who said they asked about him if he believed in homosexuality or whatever. If he, you know, should shun people. And he said who am I to judge? Well, you're the fucking pope. So if anybody can judge, it's probably you, but good for you.

Speaker 1 19:54

Yeah, there is no judgment, right, no judging. Who am I to judge?

Speaker 2 19:57

here we are sitting judging roseanne I'm not judging her, I'm just giving you facts about her. And now I'm going to tell you what I think. I think she really started out as a hero for feminism and for just blue collar rights, and not even just to get out of a Hollywood, and keeping it mostly the Hollywood stereotype.

Speaker 1 20:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:25

Of you know you have to have blonde hair and big boobs to get a TV show, and she proved them wrong. And she also proved that you can be funny and kind of snarky and still it's OK. You know, that's how a lot of people are. However, that's how she started out, but now she seems like she's a dick because she is, you know, saying racist stuff, white, not white, but kind of right wing conspiracy, hate spreading rhetoric, and that's not cool, no matter who we are she's not feeling well.

Speaker 2 21:01

Well, that doesn't mean you get to spread, you know, you get to be a racist. Oh, I don't feel good. I think I'll be a racist today. That's not how it works. It's not how it works I know that's not comedy either. No, she's going for comedy, but you're right now.

Speaker 1 21:15

You're getting some laughs I'm chuckling. Well, you're the only one no, we got hundreds of no, we don't no, we.

Hero or Dick? The Final Verdict

Speaker 2 21:25

So I think she started out as a hero, but now she's kind of a dick. Not kind of, she is a dick. Yeah, what say you?

Speaker 1 21:37

that's tough, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I think she's a hero overall. I guess she's a hero because you think of it. I don't know. It's tough because you can't say something you shouldn't say. You shouldn't be judging well, saying I'm not judging, I'm going by no, not you, I mean her.

Speaker 2 21:53

What I'm saying, the things about people and and that wasn't her only racist thing that she said. She said some other stuff too, and you know. If she believes that again I'm not here to judge her. But don't Twitter it out, because then you're hurting other people, right, just like Trump hurt her feelings. Yeah, see how that works. See how that works. Comes around, comes around.

Speaker 1 22:21

Yeah, see how that works. See how that works, comes around, comes around. Yeah, hero, fallen hero.

Speaker 2 22:24

A fallen hero I like that?

Speaker 1 22:26

Yeah, yeah, I think she'd come on our show.

Speaker 2 22:32

I don't know I don't think so.

Speaker 1 22:34

I don't know. Maybe we could do it from the macadamia nut.

Speaker 2 22:36

What's our oh, that would be cool. Yeah, fool Fool, that would be fool. What's our email? She can email us.

Speaker 1 22:44

Oh, what is it?

Speaker 2 22:46

Hero or Dick.

Speaker 1 22:46

Oh Hero or Dick.

Speaker 2 22:47

Hero or.

Speaker 1 22:48

Dick at Gmail. No, it's no Hero or Dick 2023 at Gmailcom.

Speaker 2 22:54

Yes, that's it, that's it.

Speaker 1 22:56

I think I just gave. That's it. This podcast is falling apart. We had an anniversary.

Speaker 2 23:02

We did in March.

Speaker 1 23:03

We didn't have our party.

Speaker 2 23:04

No, and we keep saying we're getting swag. We are, cassidy, we are, and you're going to be the first to get some.

Speaker 1 23:10

Hey, I got to get a copy. Oh, I don't have any more of those proof copies. I have to get a copy to Cassidy.

Speaker 2 23:17

I'll give her mine, well, unless you want to give her another one. But I read your book and it was delightful.

Speaker 1 23:23

Thanks, I love the cover.

Speaker 2 23:26

So much, and yeah, you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but how can you not, I don't know? So I'm judging your book by its cover too. I'll take it, but the content was very good, thanks, and I like how some of the related to each story and I like how you had what was my other thing I had.

Speaker 1 23:48

What's that? We shouldn't talk about it anyway, why? Well, you know.

Speaker 2 23:53

You can promote what's it called.

Speaker 1 23:56

Devotion, devo, no, it's Devotion.

Speaker 2 23:58

Devotion, devotion.

Speaker 1 24:00

And actually I got I don't know A decent amount Of advanced reader copies Out to folks. Those were Like the one you have Isn't the finished copy, but pretty close and I just Released the finished one To Global distribution Today, so That'll be available.

Speaker 2 24:16

Look for it.

Speaker 1 24:17

Devotion Amazon and yep.

Speaker 2 24:18

Who? What's your author name?

Speaker 1 24:21

KJ Stevens Okay.

Speaker 2 24:23

With a southern accent.

Speaker 1 24:24

No, kj Stevens, that's a northern. Well, anyway, thanks.

Speaker 2 24:30

All right, Now I have some the fast five. I have for you today are 80s comedies.

80s Comedy Fast Five

Speaker 1 24:36

Ooh, awesome.

Speaker 2 24:37

So we know how we feel about Roseanne, how about Golden Girls.

Speaker 1 24:43

You're asking me yeah, hero.

Speaker 2 24:45

I say hero too. Yeah, how about Cheers?

Speaker 1 24:49

Hero.

Speaker 2 24:49

Yeah, in its day it was hilarious. You know, I don't know. Well, I guess I can wait until we say them all, but I haven't went back and watched any of these again. So sometimes they don't hold up and sometimes they do, like seinfeld, I can watch seinfeld and still laugh. I watch it every day. And the simpsons, oh my god, I can watch those. If that's the only thing on my tv for the rest of my life, you're fine, I'm fine with them. How about, uh, murphy brown?

Speaker 1 25:17

I never watched it.

Speaker 2 25:18

Oh, was that too late. Probably, probably, I say hero For what she stood for and also how she changed her assistant every single episode.

Speaker 1 25:29

She had a different assistant every episode.

Speaker 2 25:32

Almost every episode. That's funny. She burned through.

Speaker 1 25:35

I like that.

Speaker 2 25:36

How about Married with Children?

Speaker 1 25:39

I never really watched that either.

Speaker 2 25:40

I say hero. I'll say hero Because of Katie Segal and I like that. How about married with children? I never really watched that either.

Speaker 1 25:42

I say hero, I'll say hero big because of katie seagal and I like that dude ed big no it's funny too.

Speaker 2 25:46

And then he was a modern family modern family.

Speaker 1 25:49

That's what I could watch.

Speaker 2 25:50

We watched that a lot too, yeah that one's not old enough to make this list. How about night court?

Speaker 1 25:55

oh, so you're laughing? Yeah, I did like that one.

Speaker 2 26:00

It's a simple premise. It is a simple premise that I thought they did well with what they had.

Speaker 1 26:06

Oh, Richard Moll.

Speaker 2 26:08

Oh yeah, he's great. And then they had that older lady too. She was always smoking a cigarette. Yeah, how about one more Wonder Years?

Speaker 1 26:19

Oh, come on now, trying to to make me cry. That was one of my favorites when I was younger, the narration, you know, it was always sappy that was very.

Speaker 2 26:28

It could be really sappy, but it also was it. It did capture that moment in time. Yep, yeah no, that was good one so uh, like I said, I haven't read. I mean, every now and then I watch the Golden Girls and they just Bea Arthur can just give a look and she's funny.

Speaker 1 26:47

There's some shows you go back and watch, but I think it's like what was the one?

Speaker 2 26:51

Oh gosh, Somebody gave us the DVDs of WKRP in Cincinnati. That was one of my faves which at the time I thought was such a great show. Well, let me tell you.

Speaker 1 27:04

Not so good.

Speaker 2 27:04

It does not hold up.

Speaker 1 27:05

No.

Speaker 2 27:06

No. It might have been great in its day.

Speaker 1 27:09

Oh, because of the sexism.

Speaker 2 27:11

Well, yeah, and it's just the even the okay. The turkey one is funny still, unless Nesman's always funny to me, but overall it's just not funny. Sorry, lani it was.

Speaker 1 27:25

It was funny then. Well, I used to like it. The a team. You remember the a?

Speaker 2 27:30

team. I never watched it, but I've seen the movie I went back and watched it like a couple years ago.

Speaker 1 27:34

It's stupid, isn't it really really bad?

Speaker 2 27:36

it really bad, it's really bad. Knight Rider, but Mr T, yeah, we liked him in our house. Oh man, we had the Mr T. We bought the cereal. Cassidy had the puzzle. I wish I knew where it was. We had the Mr T puzzle and the action figure. Awesome, mm-hmm. You could have retired on that you should. There's a little two-year-old, cassidy, doing a Mr T puzzle.

Speaker 1 28:00

She probably still has it.

Speaker 2 28:01

No, she doesn't. We checked. What did you say? A pity the fool, pity the fool, Eat that cereal.

Speaker 1 28:07

What have you been watching lately?

Speaker 2 28:11

Well, I went and watched the Alpena movie. The movie that was filmed in Alpena, I should say.

Speaker 1 28:17

What was the name of that?

Speaker 2 28:18

It's name is Revenge. No, arsene's Island, revenge.

Speaker 1 28:24

You know, and the weird thing is you're sitting here telling me about my book thing, but you're an actress, You're in that movie.

Speaker 2 28:29

I'm in the movie. If you go see the movie, which is playing through May 1st in Alpena, and then it will be at some theaters eventually, I think before too long it'll be streaming and it's fun to watch because of course there's all these alpina locations. But um, it's still. It's a good uh premise for a movie too. So it's about these guys that come back from world war. One prohibition's going on. They can't even drink. They just went through a war. I mean, come on yeah prohibition.

Speaker 2 28:57

You should do a show on that, because that's the stupidest decision ever. So anyway, they come back and they just want to, you know, have some liquor and the purple gang in detroit rules that area. Well, they start making some moonshine and selling it, and the purple gang doesn't like that and so it's about their conflict and they lived on harsens island, which is just off detroit, but um, they couldn't film on Harsin's Island, which is just off Detroit, but they couldn't film on Harsin's Island because it's an island.

Speaker 2 29:26

They said it was just not cost effective. So they came to Alpena and scoped it out. They used the Centennial Building. They used a lot of places downtown Fireside, inn, presque Isle they were at both lighthouses, they were at the museum. Um, all over downtown there's another a few, so almost every place you recognize so and so I am a churchgoer.

Speaker 2 29:53

So that's a stretch for me right there. So I'm a churchgoer. In the church behind the museum there's that little green church, I think it's called. It's like an old church that was brought there and I am on screen for about, I'd say, three seconds.

Speaker 1 30:12

That's good. Better than zero.

Speaker 2 30:15

They show us and then they break away, and then they show us again and I'm not looking directly at the camera like I thought I was Good yeah.

Speaker 1 30:25

That's a no-no.

Speaker 2 30:26

No, it is. And as soon as they said don't look at the camera, what do you think I did?

Speaker 1 30:31

You looked at the camera.

Speaker 2 30:32

Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 30:32

Yeah, yeah. So they edited out that whole fight scene that you had with the head of the purple gang.

Speaker 2 30:41

That's a fight scene that you had with the head of the purple gang. That's up. I was a church goer. Come on, I didn't even want to do it. We went there to watch them and they're like put on this hat, but your building isn't it? I'm like, okay, yes, but I'm not in any I know, but a lot of the buildings in there, the building is in there a few times, yeah that's awesome yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 30:56

It was really fun. They were great people to work with and I I can't think of their initial CSI, csi, csi. I'm sorry guys, but anyway, go watch the movie Harsin's Island Revenge. It's playing in Alpena until May 1st, I believe.

Speaker 1 31:15

Hot dog. Wait, tomorrow's May 1st, isn't it?

Speaker 2 31:18

Is it no? Thursday is May 1st, yeah.

Speaker 1 31:20

How many days are in April for?

Speaker 2 31:21

God's sakes A lot.

Speaker 1 31:22

A lot Hear that out there. Mm-hmm, oh, never mind oh that's not thunder, that's a truck. That's a Roseanne supporter.

Speaker 2 31:31

Probably Okay, anything else we got to cover.

Speaker 1 31:35

I swear we're going to get this fixed.

Speaker 2 31:37

We're going to have next time. It's going to be technically so beautiful.

Speaker 1 31:42

Well, we'll see, all right, All right, thanks everybody.

Speaker 2 31:45

Okay, bye.

Speaker 1 31:46

Bye.