Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 6 - Roseanne Barr

Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick! This time around, Kate & KJ discuss Roseanne Barr.

How does a groundbreaking comedian who transformed television representation become one of the most divisive voices in American culture? 

Tune in to find out.

Thanks for listening!

~ Kate & KJ

Transcript

Welcome to Season 3

Speaker 1 0:01

Now and we're on . Hey Welcome , ladies and gentlemen to Season 3 . Can you say , ladies and gentlemen , anymore ? Oh , I don't know .

Speaker 2 0:10

Yeah , we can say whatever we want . Yeah mother , Nobody's listening . Remember .

Speaker 1 0:15

Welcome to Hero or Dick .

Speaker 2 0:16

Season 3, .

Speaker 1 0:17

Episode 6 . Little technical difficulties as usual , as usual . I bought the part that we needed for our headsets but not really , but I bought the wrong one . My wife's gonna like that . Just throwing money down the toilet can you return it ?

Speaker 2 0:34

oh , you probably don't have all this stuff . And plus it's like how much was it ?

Speaker 1 0:38

six bucks yeah , I don't know , and then it was washing down the street because we just had a flash flood . Yeah , it was pretty amazing . Yeah , yeah , sitting here I got tuna fish breath smell like coffee .

Speaker 2 0:51

I got , mustard I got mustard on my shirt . Wow , you're a mess , Sorry Wow .

Speaker 1 1:03

Speaking of mess . What's our ?

Speaker 2 1:06

topic today , roseanne Bar . Is she somebody who just gets one name , like if you say Roseanne , People know it .

Speaker 1 1:13

She's like Cher .

Speaker 2 1:15

Well , I would beg to differ there . She's like she has one name like that . Yeah , sia , who's that ? What ?

Speaker 1 1:24

One , two , three drink that song . Sia Chandelier , that's a great song .

Speaker 2 1:31

I'm sorry , I don't know that . I don't know that . I'm not even sorry for not knowing that .

Introducing Roseanne: Early Life & Career

Speaker 1 1:35

Now we chose Roseanne , because why ?

Speaker 2 1:39

did we Do something different ? It was my fault . Yeah , you , yeah .

Speaker 1 1:41

Why did I do that ? You asked me a question .

Speaker 2 1:43

I don't know . I'm like , what should we do next time ? Let's do Roseanne Barr , okay .

Speaker 1 1:48

And I don't even know . Fence Roseanne . I know she's probably listening , but I uh , I never was a fan of her before . Well not even that show .

Speaker 2 1:57

Uh , I will say , and we will find out as we get into it . You know um , I think that early on she was very influential she was .

Speaker 1 2:08

What do you call that ? A trailblazer for women ?

Speaker 2 2:11

she was she was , and she didn't have an easy life . She's born jewish in salt lake city , right there , ma'am , you're a jew in a mormon city , son of a bitch . Eh , I guess I don't know . I don't know either .

Speaker 1 2:24

You ever been there ?

Speaker 2 2:25

Salt Lake City yeah .

Speaker 1 2:28

Jewish that too , neither .

Speaker 2 2:30

No , no , I've never been to . I've been through Utah but not spent time . It's beautiful there . It looks beautiful .

Speaker 1 2:39

Seems like it , I'll have to visit it . I gotta stop making these major Right you get a .

Speaker 2 2:45

I think a lot of places you get a preconceived you know whatever the cliche is about the city , like if you go to Detroit you're going to get murdered , that's . I've been to Detroit .

Speaker 1 2:55

I haven't been murdered yet I haven't been , or have we both been ?

Speaker 2 2:59

Oh , and now we're just here .

Speaker 1 3:00

Hanging out in the afterlife .

Speaker 2 3:01

Oh my gosh , Very sixth sense of you , man . Anyhow , all right , there's something to think about .

Speaker 1 3:09

No , she did have , and she didn't have it easy .

Speaker 2 3:13

She dropped out of high school when she was just 17 .

Speaker 1 3:15

Well , what about the accident ?

Speaker 2 3:17

And then she got in a bad car accident and I think that really screwed her up , caused her brain damage . Yeah , cost her brain damage . Yeah , yeah , enough that she was . It said she had nightmares of memory loss so severe that she was admitted to a mental institution had to give up her baby and well , that came a little later they said that it was part of it .

Speaker 2 3:37

I thought she left after a year to the mental institution . But that's a long time to spend in a mental institution , especially if you're only 17 to begin with , that's a big part of your life .

Speaker 1 3:48

How long do you think you can do it now , like if they dropped you off ?

Speaker 2 3:50

Oh , do you have insurance ?

Speaker 1 3:52

No , I mean just to see if you could do it .

Speaker 2 3:55

How long do you think I ?

Speaker 1 3:57

could last in a mental institution . You personally could last at Point East .

Speaker 2 4:00

Wow , Well , I don't know and I hope I don't have to know .

Speaker 1 4:05

You think we could do a show from there ? No , not in a bad way , but I think maybe out in the hall .

Speaker 2 4:12

Maybe I will be there or you will be there , I'm definitely going and I'll come and meet you and say I'm here to do the podcast .

Speaker 1 4:19

I'm headed there , Kate .

Speaker 2 4:21

No shame .

Speaker 1 4:22

Okay , so what else about her ? So ?

Speaker 2 4:24

then , after she left there , she was 17 , maybe 18 , and she had a baby who was a girl .

Speaker 1 4:31

Brandy .

Speaker 2 4:31

And she put her up for adoption and 17 years later , this kid comes back to claim her Brandy . Is that her name , Brandy ?

Speaker 1 4:42

She's a fine girl , brandy Brown .

Speaker 2 4:44

Brandy .

Speaker 1 4:45

Brown , brandy Ann Brown , no , that's not a real name . I swear to God . Brandy Ann Brown .

Speaker 2 4:49

Is she a stripper ?

Speaker 1 4:51

Not anymore . She's back , connected with her rich mother , with her net worth of $89 .

Speaker 2 4:55

So , after she did the adoption thing , um , um , that's funny . Speaking of mental , my therapist just texted me . So after that , though , she worked as a dishwasher what ? Really and then a waitress and that hurt her snarky . You know . Comebacks to customers got her going in comedy clubs on open mic night so people like went to see her .

Speaker 1 5:28

Yeah , and she lived in colorado .

Speaker 2 5:31

She went to colorado for she said I'm going for two weeks and she never went back . She never came home and she was in colorado springs area at some point in the early 80s because my sisters lived there hey south , hey kath and um they saw her as a as an upcoming comedian oh cool yeah , yeah so .

Speaker 2 5:54

so she did that in the early 80s , um , and worked comedy clubs around that area , and she also got married and had three kids around this time too . Then she got her big break , where people used to get their big break for , especially comedians Probably bands too , but especially comedians when do you get your big break , I'm asking you . Like a long time ago on the Tonight Show .

Speaker 1 6:23

Oh yes , If you were on .

Speaker 2 6:24

The Tonight Show , and especially then if Johnny asked you to come and sit on the couch you made it . You made it .

Speaker 1 6:31

You're there , you're there .

Speaker 2 6:34

And so she did that , and that was in 85 . And then in 1986 , so she was really gaining momentum . She performed with Rodney Dangerfield . No respect , no respect . I love Rodney dangerfield . No respect , no respect . I love rodney dangerfield wait wait , wait .

Speaker 1 6:49

What was the show he was in that ? Back to school , back to school , good old rodney .

Speaker 2 6:54

He was on a lot of things that were . He is funny he's .

Speaker 1 6:58

I yeah , I think he's hilarious his whole as mannerisms and just anyway .

Speaker 2 7:02

Yeah , I'm here to sidetrack you then she was on david letterman and then she got her own again . This for the time . This was a . This is how you knew you made it as a comedian . You got an hbo special in 1987 she got a hbo special um uh and then um oh , she was at that time too . She was offered the peg bundy role on married with children , which I think she could have pulled that off , but I love katie seagal is that her name ?

Speaker 1 7:38

yes what's katie seagal ? No wrong is that steven se's .

Speaker 2 7:42

No , she's not related to him ? No , because she's way cooler than him . What ?

Speaker 1 7:47

Nobody's cooler than Steven Seagal Katie .

Speaker 2 7:49

Seagal . We should have done the show on her . She's a cool lady . So she was a backup singer for Bette Midler and then she did some acting and she was Peg Bundy and then she was the matriarch on sons of anarchy , and she was so good were you doing research on her instead of no . I just know this about her because I kind of like I guess I'm stalking her .

Speaker 2 8:11

Oh shit ,

Rise to Comedy Stardom

Speaker 2 8:12

yeah , whatever man , your knowledge about pop culture people is just , it's up there so roseanne's thing was she did her act and her big thing was she called herself a domestic goddess , yeah , and her her comedy was she called herself a domestic goddess , yeah , and her her comedy was very blue collar , so I think a lot of people could relate to it , sure , uh . So then she got her sitcom and it was funny , but it was really harsh reality , yep , and . But that was her personality and she , um , she did blaze the trail because she wasn't a skinny housewife like Mary Tyler Moore or you know whoever .

Speaker 1 8:53

Or the Bewitched Lady .

Speaker 2 8:56

Yeah , what's her name ? I ?

Speaker 1 8:57

don't know . Elizabeth Montgomery , oh , that's what it was . Look at you .

Speaker 2 9:01

I know .

Speaker 1 9:01

Knocking them down .

Speaker 2 9:02

I've got memory . Today you hit me on a good day , but she was different from all of those people and I think , because she was so real , people related to her and as she is in this show , she also got a reputation of being difficult . So are you difficult ? No , because she refused to say certain lines . I looked for a specific instance and I couldn't find one , but I believe she did . She just said no , Roseanne wouldn't say that .

Speaker 1 9:37

Oh , I guess .

Speaker 2 9:38

My character wouldn't say that Okay , and she refused , and the show lasted nine years , so she must have been doing something right .

Speaker 1 9:49

She won an Emmy , didn't she ? I ?

Speaker 2 9:50

mean , in the end it was kind of jumping the shark , you know .

Speaker 1 9:52

Yeah .

Speaker 2 9:53

I don't know . Then they won the lottery and then oh , it was just a dream .

Speaker 1 9:57

And then now the show came back right . I didn't even watch it then .

Speaker 2 10:00

But I did watch it at the beginning and I thought it was funny . John Goodman was hilarious as her husband and they were such a perfect match . And her kids were real kids . They weren't , you know , perfect little children , they were real .

Speaker 1 10:15

Yeah .

Speaker 2 10:16

Yeah . So then something changed . I don't know , was it when she hooked up with Tom Arnold ?

Speaker 1 10:26

There was some controversy there . Is that his name , Tom Arnold ? Yeah .

Speaker 2 10:29

Yeah .

Speaker 1 10:30

Cokehead .

Speaker 2 10:32

I don't care for Tom Arnold . So was it then ? Or was it when she croaked out the 1990 Star Spangled Banner at the baseball game ? Yeah , you know , that's one thing to not sing it correctly and nicely , but then she grabbed a crotch at the end of it . Yeah , and it's like , eh , that was Jumping the Shark too . I think , yeah , that was over the line she was trying to get . She was trying to use comedy and it wasn't funny .

Speaker 1 11:04

Right . You know , sometimes there's a time and a place .

Speaker 2 11:08

There is , and sometimes people think it's funny or improvise and hope it will be funny , and it's not .

Speaker 1 11:15

Well , here's the funny thing she can do that for the national anthem . But you know , people had a big deal , a few players kneeling .

Speaker 2 11:25

Yeah , I have more problem with her than them so interesting . If they want to take a knee , that's fine .

Speaker 1 11:33

But I mean , whatever she did , what she did and she got attention for it .

Speaker 2 11:37

Yes , she did .

Speaker 1 11:38

And I think that's part of her shtick too is go to our bed and get attention .

Speaker 2 11:42

Maybe she is a needy person who just needs attention . Mm-hmm , maybe she is a needy person who just needs attention .

Speaker 1 11:47

Be it bad or good Talented , though . Yeah , she thinks she's a musician too , though you know she did a rap for a recent song supporting Trump . I didn't hear that .

Speaker 2 11:58

And so here's the other thing when she did that Star-Spangled Banner I mean everybody , especially right people on the right , said that it was just disgusting . You know how she , how she , you know , um , how would you say it how she abused that song and it was just disgusting in that now they're all her friends .

Speaker 1 12:25

Well , and it's acceptable , apparently , Apparently , especially if you're in a very high place of leadership . Okay , let's say that I'm sorry , I'll stop . I'll stop .

Speaker 2 12:37

So then my next question is maybe it was when she switched political parties ? She went from Democrat to Republican , to Peace and Freedom Party .

Speaker 1 12:46

She ran and she ran 2012 , right as president .

Speaker 2 12:50

Yeah , and she got she didn't win In 2012 . She didn't win , but she got on the ballot in three states and got over 50K votes 50,000 votes . Now she's a Trump supporter and in 2016 , she called Trump the first woman president , which I don't understand .

Speaker 1 13:10

Women for Trump . He was the first woman president , though he is . Maybe he's trance , I don't know . That'd be something I think his wife's a guy . I think he's a fucking Cheeto .

Speaker 2 13:22

A Cheeto . I better take that out , all right .

Speaker 1 13:26

Yeah , let's get back to I . Better take that out .

Speaker 2 13:27

All right , so it has to be . So . It could be any one of those times but it has to be by this time when she insulted people , and not just insulted them , but was

From Sitcom Success to Controversy

Speaker 2 13:40

mean and racially , oh yeah .

Speaker 1 13:42

Bigotry , calling the lady like a .

Speaker 2 13:45

Calling Valerie Jaret , the child of a Muslim brotherhood in the planet of the apes . That's not . You don't need to ever do that . Call somebody that . And now she kisses Trump's ass , the guy who called her disgraceful until she supported him for president .

Speaker 1 14:07

Well , it's all about loyalty .

Speaker 2 14:09

I guess she did say that she had hurt feelings because she is a magna devotee , but now she complains that Trump and his people call me a loose cannon and he hurt my feelings Like what You're playing that game .

Speaker 1 14:29

Yeah , what do you think is going to ?

Speaker 2 14:29

happen . Yeah , yeah , so yeah , Now she . Do you want to say anything more about her past ?

Speaker 1 14:37

Oh , I like that she moved to Hawaii to have a macadamia nut farm .

Speaker 2 14:40

She did and she still does have that place . She works on it .

Speaker 1 14:43

And she said she did move there Because , I don't know , she probably wouldn't be a bad person to sit down and have a drink with . No , I mean she'd probably be fun , and down to earth , I think .

Speaker 2 14:52

I would think so .

Speaker 1 14:53

yeah , you know and she said she moved to Hawaii . I mean , I haven't seen her spread . It's probably pretty nice , but to get away from the Hollywood phoniness . So she owns like half the island . I'm just kidding .

Speaker 2 15:08

48 acres is a lot , but I don't know what island it's on either . I'm not sure it's not on the big island , I don't think , but she does still have that place . But she actually lives in Texas now .

Speaker 1 15:21

Because her son Everybody moved to Texas .

Speaker 2 15:23

Her son . Maybe Did she have a kid with Tom Arnold . Yeah , I think so Maybe it's a kid with Tom Arnold . So it's her youngest son . It must be . And what was his name ? Joshua or Jason or something like that , and she Jake . She does a weekly podcast with him , which I meant to listen to it , but I did not . I didn't even know .

Speaker 2 15:45

I'll check it out yeah , she does a weekly podcast with her son , jake . I have no idea what their topics are or if they have a theme or whatever . She lives in texas , in the hill country , and she lives I think she lives with the son and wife and grandkids , oh , and she's still writing scripts . Um , the last thing I read about her was she was considering a move to palm beach because she loves it there so much . Oh , but we have to backtrack a little bit . So she got rosanne . The show rosanne wrote rebooted , yeah , and then all the almost all the original cast and then she was fired for that racist Twitter and on the show they killed her off . So I mean , she's not coming back .

Speaker 2 16:37

No Well , unless it's all a dream and the show continued , and they're just wrapping up seven years that's impressive . Yeah , that is that . They went on without her .

Speaker 1 16:46

I don't know , know they referenced her . I never really watched a lot , though , about the fact , because that was her idea . It was her idea in her show what kept going without her , or if she's still got money I don't know .

Speaker 2 16:55

So I wonder yeah , does she get residuals from that show ?

Speaker 1 16:59

syndication for anything , maybe um she's got money , I'm not worried about her um rex , our just handed me a note and he said that she has real estate in El Segundo , california . Okay , including a $3.3 million home and a commercial studio . Oh yeah , to do what , whatever she does .

Speaker 2 17:19

Well , I guess yeah .

Speaker 1 17:21

Get ready for 2028 , probably , probably , probably . She has supported several causes , causes . Would you like to know some of them ?

Speaker 2 17:30

yes , I would , because look at the sun , it was just torrential rain .

Speaker 1 17:34

When , when you had to go , outside and now that you're inside , it's sunny , so um acorn advocacy for low and modern income families .

Speaker 2 17:47

Okay , that sounds like a good thing .

Speaker 1 17:50

My wife just sent me a message .

Speaker 2 17:52

Oh good , hey Brooke .

Speaker 1 17:53

Hello Brooke . Comic relief , that was for supporting poverty and homelessness oh , not supporting it , but trying to get rid of it . Animal rights activism in New York City oh , called NYC class or New York Class , something like that .

Speaker 2 18:11

And the Trevor Project , it's suicide prevention services for LGBTQ oh , wow See , and if you're mega , I guess I would just assume you're against all of that .

Speaker 1 18:20

Shame on us . We shouldn't think that way .

Speaker 2 18:22

I guess .

Speaker 1 18:22

so Well , I'm making assumptions and I can't do that , I shouldn't do that , nope , but nine times out of 20 .

Political Shifts and Twitter Troubles

Speaker 1 18:32

Um , she studied kabbalah .

Speaker 2 18:34

Oh , she's also tried to get very spiritual , probably because the old you know well sometimes everybody should I think everybody at a certain age thinks you know , should I be believing in something ?

Speaker 1 18:46

do you ? No , I mean uh not yet I haven't found it .

Speaker 2 18:50

Yet . There's I don't get , most organized religion is just I . I guess it's just over my head I don't know , I just don't get it no , I really like the pope that died , though he was a good guy was he yeah , pope francis , rest in peace . Yeah , that jd vance killed . You met with him the day before , did he ?

Speaker 1 19:14

really he did oh my god , did they do an autopsy ? You know , we should start doing like a conspiracy podcast . It would do really well .

Speaker 2 19:22

Oh , my god , yes , let's just start making shit up , all right , well ? Well , it seems to me that you can do that now you can , and if it's true , it's true .

Speaker 1 19:30

If it's not , it's not .

Speaker 2 19:31

Right Prove me wrong People prove me wrong , but that Pope was cool . He is the Pope who said they asked about him if he believed in homosexuality or whatever . If he , you know , should shun people . And he said who am I to judge ? Well , you're the fucking pope . So if anybody can judge , it's probably you , but good for you .

Speaker 1 19:54

Yeah , there is no judgment , right , no judging . Who am I to judge ?

Speaker 2 19:57

here we are sitting judging roseanne I'm not judging her , I'm just giving you facts about her . And now I'm going to tell you what I think . I think she really started out as a hero for feminism and for just blue collar rights , and not even just to get out of a Hollywood , and keeping it mostly the Hollywood stereotype .

Speaker 1 20:24

Yeah .

Speaker 2 20:25

Of you know you have to have blonde hair and big boobs to get a TV show , and she proved them wrong . And she also proved that you can be funny and kind of snarky and still it's OK . You know , that's how a lot of people are . However , that's how she started out , but now she seems like she's a dick because she is , you know , saying racist stuff , white , not white , but kind of right wing conspiracy , hate spreading rhetoric , and that's not cool , no matter who we are she's not feeling well .

Speaker 2 21:01

Well , that doesn't mean you get to spread , you know , you get to be a racist . Oh , I don't feel good . I think I'll be a racist today . That's not how it works . It's not how it works I know that's not comedy either . No , she's going for comedy , but you're right now .

Speaker 1 21:15

You're getting some laughs I'm chuckling . Well , you're the only one no , we got hundreds of no , we don't no , we .

Speaker 2 21:25

So I think she started out as a hero , but now she's kind of a dick .

Hero or Dick? The Final Verdict

Speaker 2 21:30

Not kind of , she is a dick . Yeah , what say you ?

Speaker 1 21:37

that's tough , I don't know . I mean , yeah , I think she's a hero overall . I guess she's a hero because you think of it . I don't know . It's tough because you can't say something you shouldn't say . You shouldn't be judging well , saying I'm not judging , I'm going by no , not you , I mean her .

Speaker 2 21:53

What I'm saying , the things about people and and that wasn't her only racist thing that she said . She said some other stuff too , and you know . If she believes that again I'm not here to judge her . But don't Twitter it out , because then you're hurting other people , right , just like Trump hurt her feelings . Yeah , see how that works . See how that works . Comes around , comes around .

Speaker 1 22:21

Yeah , see how that works . See how that works , comes around , comes around . Yeah , hero , fallen hero .

Speaker 2 22:24

A fallen hero I like that ?

Speaker 1 22:26

Yeah , yeah , I think she'd come on our show .

Speaker 2 22:32

I don't know I don't think so .

Speaker 1 22:34

I don't know . Maybe we could do it from the macadamia nut .

Speaker 2 22:36

What's our oh , that would be cool . Yeah , fool Fool , that would be fool . What's our email ? She can email us .

Speaker 1 22:44

Oh , what is it ?

Speaker 2 22:46

Hero or Dick .

Speaker 1 22:46

Oh Hero or Dick .

Speaker 2 22:47

Hero or .

Speaker 1 22:48

Dick at Gmail . No , it's no Hero or Dick 2023 at Gmailcom .

Speaker 2 22:54

Yes , that's it , that's it .

Speaker 1 22:56

I think I just gave . That's it . This podcast is falling apart . We had an anniversary .

Speaker 2 23:02

We did in March .

Speaker 1 23:03

We didn't have our party .

Speaker 2 23:04

No , and we keep saying we're getting swag . We are , cassidy , we are , and you're going to be the first to get some .

Speaker 1 23:10

Hey , I got to get a copy . Oh , I don't have any more of those proof copies . I have to get a copy to Cassidy .

Speaker 2 23:17

I'll give her mine , well , unless you want to give her another one . But I read your book and it was delightful .

Speaker 1 23:23

Thanks , I love the cover .

Speaker 2 23:26

So much , and yeah , you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover , but how can you not , I don't know ? So I'm judging your book by its cover too . I'll take it , but the content was very good , thanks , and I like how some of the related to each story and I like how you had what was my other thing I had .

Speaker 1 23:48

What's that ? We shouldn't talk about it anyway , why ? Well , you know .

Speaker 2 23:53

You can promote what's it called .

Speaker 1 23:56

Devotion , devo , no , it's Devotion .

Speaker 2 23:58

Devotion , devotion .

Speaker 1 24:00

And actually I got I don't know A decent amount Of advanced reader copies Out to folks . Those were Like the one you have Isn't the finished copy , but pretty close and I just Released the finished one To Global distribution Today , so That'll be available .

Speaker 2 24:16

Look for it .

Speaker 1 24:17

Devotion Amazon and yep .

Speaker 2 24:18

Who ? What's your author name ?

Speaker 1 24:21

KJ Stevens Okay .

Speaker 2 24:23

With a southern accent .

Speaker 1 24:24

No , kj Stevens , that's a northern . Well , anyway , thanks .

Speaker 2 24:30

All right , Now I have some the fast five . I have for you today are 80s comedies .

Speaker 1 24:36

Ooh

80s Comedy Fast Five

Speaker 1 24:37

, awesome .

Speaker 2 24:37

So we know how we feel about Roseanne , how about Golden Girls .

Speaker 1 24:43

You're asking me yeah , hero .

Speaker 2 24:45

I say hero too . Yeah , how about Cheers ?

Speaker 1 24:49

Hero .

Speaker 2 24:49

Yeah , in its day it was hilarious . You know , I don't know . Well , I guess I can wait until we say them all , but I haven't went back and watched any of these again . So sometimes they don't hold up and sometimes they do , like seinfeld , I can watch seinfeld and still laugh . I watch it every day . And the simpsons , oh my god , I can watch those . If that's the only thing on my tv for the rest of my life , you're fine , I'm fine with them . How about , uh , murphy brown ?

Speaker 1 25:17

I never watched it .

Speaker 2 25:18

Oh , was that too late . Probably , probably , I say hero For what she stood for and also how she changed her assistant every single episode .

Speaker 1 25:29

She had a different assistant every episode .

Speaker 2 25:32

Almost every episode . That's funny . She burned through .

Speaker 1 25:35

I like that .

Speaker 2 25:36

How about Married with Children ?

Speaker 1 25:39

I never really watched that either .

Speaker 2 25:40

I say hero . I'll say hero Because of Katie Segal and I like that . How about married with children ? I never really watched that either .

Speaker 1 25:42

I say hero , I'll say hero big because of katie seagal and I like that dude ed big no it's funny too .

Speaker 2 25:46

And then he was a modern family modern family .

Speaker 1 25:49

That's what I could watch .

Speaker 2 25:50

We watched that a lot too , yeah that one's not old enough to make this list . How about night court ?

Speaker 1 25:55

oh , so you're laughing ? Yeah , I did like that one .

Speaker 2 26:00

It's a simple premise . It is a simple premise that I thought they did well with what they had .

Speaker 1 26:06

Oh , Richard Moll .

Speaker 2 26:08

Oh yeah , he's great . And then they had that older lady too . She was always smoking a cigarette . Yeah , how about one more Wonder Years ?

Speaker 1 26:19

Oh , come on now , trying to to make me cry . That was one of my favorites when I was younger , the narration , you know , it was always sappy that was very .

Speaker 2 26:28

It could be really sappy , but it also was it . It did capture that moment in time . Yep , yeah no , that was good one so uh , like I said , I haven't read . I mean , every now and then I watch the Golden Girls and they just Bea Arthur can just give a look and she's funny .

Speaker 1 26:47

There's some shows you go back and watch , but I think it's like what was the one ?

Speaker 2 26:51

Oh gosh , Somebody gave us the DVDs of WKRP in Cincinnati . That was one of my faves which at the time I thought was such a great show . Well , let me tell you .

Speaker 1 27:04

Not so good .

Speaker 2 27:04

It does not hold up .

Speaker 1 27:05

No .

Speaker 2 27:06

No . It might have been great in its day .

Speaker 1 27:09

Oh , because of the sexism .

Speaker 2 27:11

Well , yeah , and it's just the even the okay . The turkey one is funny still , unless Nesman's always funny to me , but overall it's just not funny . Sorry , lani it was .

Speaker 1 27:25

It was funny then . Well , I used to like it . The a team . You remember the a ?

Speaker 2 27:30

team . I never watched it , but I've seen the movie I went back and watched it like a couple years ago .

Speaker 1 27:34

It's stupid , isn't it really really bad ?

Speaker 2 27:36

it really bad , it's really bad . Knight Rider , but Mr T , yeah , we liked him in our house . Oh man , we had the Mr T . We bought the cereal . Cassidy had the puzzle . I wish I knew where it was . We had the Mr T puzzle and the action figure . Awesome , mm-hmm . You could have retired on that you should . There's a little two-year-old , cassidy , doing a Mr T puzzle .

Speaker 1 28:00

She probably still has it .

Speaker 2 28:01

No , she doesn't . We checked . What did you say ? A pity the fool , pity the fool , Eat that cereal .

Speaker 1 28:07

What have you been watching lately ?

Speaker 2 28:11

Well , I went and watched the Alpena movie . The movie that was filmed in Alpena , I should say .

Speaker 1 28:17

What was the name of that ?

Speaker 2 28:18

It's name is Revenge . No , arsene's Island , revenge .

Speaker 1 28:24

You know , and the weird thing is you're sitting here telling me about my book thing , but you're an actress , You're in that movie .

Speaker 2 28:29

I'm in the movie . If you go see the movie , which is playing through May 1st in Alpena , and then it will be at some theaters eventually , I think before too long it'll be streaming and it's fun to watch because of course there's all these alpina locations . But um , it's still . It's a good uh premise for a movie too . So it's about these guys that come back from world war . One prohibition's going on . They can't even drink . They just went through a war . I mean , come on yeah prohibition .

Speaker 2 28:57

You should do a show on that , because that's the stupidest decision ever . So anyway , they come back and they just want to , you know , have some liquor and the purple gang in detroit rules that area . Well , they start making some moonshine and selling it , and the purple gang doesn't like that and so it's about their conflict and they lived on harsens island , which is just off detroit , but um , they couldn't film on Harsin's Island , which is just off Detroit , but they couldn't film on Harsin's Island because it's an island .

Speaker 2 29:26

They said it was just not cost effective . So they came to Alpena and scoped it out . They used the Centennial Building . They used a lot of places downtown Fireside , inn , presque Isle they were at both lighthouses , they were at the museum . Um , all over downtown there's another a few , so almost every place you recognize so and so I am a churchgoer .

Speaker 2 29:53

So that's a stretch for me right there . So I'm a churchgoer . In the church behind the museum there's that little green church , I think it's called . It's like an old church that was brought there and I am on screen for about , I'd say , three seconds .

Speaker 1 30:12

That's good . Better than zero .

Speaker 2 30:15

They show us and then they break away , and then they show us again and I'm not looking directly at the camera like I thought I was Good yeah .

Speaker 1 30:25

That's a no-no .

Speaker 2 30:26

No , it is . And as soon as they said don't look at the camera , what do you think I did ?

Speaker 1 30:31

You looked at the camera .

Speaker 2 30:32

Well , yeah .

Speaker 1 30:32

Yeah , yeah . So they edited out that whole fight scene that you had with the head of the purple gang .

Speaker 2 30:41

That's a fight scene that you had with the head of the purple gang . That's up . I was a church goer . Come on , I didn't even want to do it . We went there to watch them and they're like put on this hat , but your building isn't it ? I'm like , okay , yes , but I'm not in any I know , but a lot of the buildings in there , the building is in there a few times , yeah that's awesome yeah , that was .

Speaker 2 30:56

It was really fun . They were great people to work with and I I can't think of their initial CSI , csi , csi . I'm sorry guys , but anyway , go watch the movie Harsin's Island Revenge . It's playing in Alpena until May 1st , I believe .

Speaker 1 31:15

Hot dog . Wait , tomorrow's May 1st , isn't it ?

Speaker 2 31:18

Is it no ? Thursday is May 1st , yeah .

Speaker 1 31:20

How many days are in April for ?

Speaker 2 31:21

God's sakes A lot .

Speaker 1 31:22

A lot Hear that out there . Mm-hmm , oh , never mind oh that's not thunder , that's a truck . That's a Roseanne supporter .

Speaker 2 31:31

Probably Okay , anything else we got to cover .

Speaker 1 31:35

I swear we're going to get this fixed .

Speaker 2 31:37

We're going to have next time . It's going to be technically so beautiful .

Speaker 1 31:42

Well , we'll see , all right , All right , thanks everybody .

Speaker 2 31:45

Okay , bye .

Speaker 1 31:46

Bye .