Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 11 - Shootin' the Bull (or Bison)

Greetings and Salutations, Listener! 

In this episode, we're just shootin' the bull, and our casual conversation covers whatever crosses our minds on a humid summer day.

• Finding a bison farm in Metz, Michigan
• Recommending Friendly Foodies in Alpena for incredible plant-based dishes including the Cluck Yeah! tacos
• Noticing bugs getting bigger
• Discussing climate change impacts, including Arizona cacti dying from excessive heat
• Exploring Fourth of July plans and childhood memories
• Sampling V8's Dill Pickle Bloody Mary mix and discussing non-alcoholic beer options
• Debating potential future podcast topics: chickens, emo music, punk, Scientology, elephants, or Eva Peron

Voice your opinion on future topics at HeroOrDick2023@gmail.com!

Thanks for tuning in!

~ Kate & KJ

Transcript

Welcome to Horse Feather Studio

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Okay , testing . We're here , we're live .

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We are , we're , uh , we are the podcast . Here we're Dick .

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We are . This is Kate .

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And KJ .

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And uh , it's a little little um humid in here today it's hot , it's hot out .

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It was 84 degrees .

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Yeah , we got this brand new studio and the AC doesn't work . No , we're at Horse Feather Studio again .

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Again .

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Thanks to everybody that stopped by . Thanks , Brooke . She's letting us use this rent-free .

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We get to look at beautiful art .

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We do If anybody ever wants to buy any art , let me know , and I just want to say that our logo . Oh , it's in my daughter's room , is it ? Oh , then we found it .

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No , who did it ? Did Brooke ?

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do it . Yeah , brooke did it , brooke Stevens .

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And it is cool looking , I think I love it . We need to put it on a mug , some point she's got a website too .

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But anyway , your cereal painting . Somebody wanted to buy that the other day .

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I like the cereal painting , so if you're going to get that , you better jump on it . It's cereal-like Froot Loops is what it looks like . I like the little paintings on blocks that she did over here .

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Oh yeah .

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Yep , I like that one . I have a picture of this one with the cloud above them . People they don't know what to do , so they just have a cloud above them . The government Is that the government ?

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I don't know , no , probably not .

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So there's lots of cool things in here , something for everyone .

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Yeah , if anybody ever wants to come in , what's our email ?

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Our email ? I don't know .

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HeroOrDick2023 at gmailcom If you want to drop us a line .

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That's my name right there , or If ?

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you want to drop us a line or make an appointment to come in here and see some art , I'll open this place up , I don't care . There's more in the back , it's fucking hot in here , though , and it's pretty warm . I almost got a hot coffee .

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But KJ did get us nice cool coffee . And what is mine is beautiful .

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It's called the Blackberry Cold Brew Sweet Foam . But they didn't have the cold brew so they did an iced coffee with the blackberry and the sweet foam .

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And then it has a foam and then some chocolate drizzled on top .

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What's it called Big B Big .

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B . Big B's Bigsby , big B Does it have two G's , I don't know .

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We have three locations in Alpena .

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We do it's big in Alpena . We do it's big in .

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Alpena , it's not every corner . Well , that's four corners , but three of the four corners of town . We don't have four corners , really , do we ?

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I don't think there's a four corner you could say Bagley , and 32 is , I guess I hate that area .

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What you do . Yeah , it's like any time you could die there .

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Yeah , I feel like you could get in an accident at any time there , and I hear tell that they might put a roundabout there . I don't know .

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Jesus Christ , you're going to see so many old not old people , I'm an old person .

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I'm an old person too .

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You're going to see people bumping over the curb flipping their car over .

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It would not be pretty . I think they need to do it . Piss some people off . Oh , just for that factor .

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Yeah , keep people uncomfortable .

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It's important Get out of your comfort zone , people .

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Good old Pina though .

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And so that's what we're doing

Bison Meat and Local Finds

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today getting out of our comfort zone . We don't have a topic as you may have noticed .

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Yeah .

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Because I've been doing research , but on different things , not on the podcast .

Speaker 1 3:24

Oh , bison meat . Yeah , tell us about the bison .

Speaker 2 3:27

Well , we found a bison farm in Metz Michigan , and I cannot tell you the people's name , but it is on .

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Metz Highway .

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I believe it's the only one on Metz Highway and we bought some burger from them and tonight we're having the burgers and ribeye . Bison ribeye and it was delicious , was it ? It was delicious , it's not fatty is it ?

Speaker 1 4:00

No , and it's not gamey either . Okay , don't like that . Any wild animal like that and they have .

Speaker 2 4:03

Okay , you know , don't like that any wild animal like that , and they have . You know , the bison are there and the bison . There's some bison babies too .

Speaker 1 4:10

They were pretty adorable how'd they feel about you taking away the body parts , the bison , yeah well , I'll tell you what .

Speaker 2 4:16

When you walk in there or you walk behind there and they have fences , they have a couple different pens , large , huge pens and as we're walking up , uh , julie thanks julie she was telling us about the bison and she was saying don't walk too fast . And we walked a little too fast and they were like , oh , we don't like you . And they took off . So then we stood there and talked and then they came back did you get to pet them ?

Speaker 2 4:42

no , oh my god , no , no , no . They don't want you to pet them . The bison don't want you to , and the people who own the bison don't want you to .

Speaker 1 4:50

They're dangerous animals , sure .

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And they're big as a bus . Yeah , they're huge . The babies are a small car size of a small car , oh wow .

Speaker 1 5:05

Yeah , size of a small car . Oh wow , yeah , people eat the babies of it . I don't know , would that be veal or something ? I guess Bison veal .

Speaker 2 5:08

With a cow . It's veal . I didn't get any veal , I just got burger , burger and ribeyes and a roast .

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You know what that's got me thinking ? And it was very reasonable too . Was it .

Speaker 2 5:18

As the meat goes . We got one big roast , two pounds , maybe four pounds of hamburger and like four ribeyes , and it was $67 . What ?

Speaker 1 5:30

That's really good , I know , I know .

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Per pound ? I can't remember , but it was reasonable Nice .

Speaker 1 5:36

I had the opposite of that yesterday . I'll give a little shout out to a place in town , I guess .

Speaker 2 5:44

That was me slurping that coffee .

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Friendly Foodies . The vegan place .

Speaker 2 5:49

Oh , I don't know of them , come on .

Speaker 1 5:51

You know everything about town .

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I know nothing what .

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You're like an engaged citizen Right over on . Oh my God , what's a cub Friendly Foodies .

Speaker 2 6:05

They got a little cow on their sign , but what's a cow ?

Speaker 1 6:06

Friendly foodies . They got a little cow on their sign , but there's no cow on there . Well , yeah , you know when you come the alley behind Rusty Petunia and all that shit .

Speaker 2 6:16

Oh yeah .

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So you come out to the main road and you take a left by the hair salon .

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Yeah , right there .

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What is that called ? Is that 2nd ? It's not 2nd , it's 3rd , 3rd Avenue . Oh my God , I'm a moron . I live in town that street . People can't see it . Anyway look it up , friendly Foodies , is that ?

Speaker 2 6:34

2nd Avenue .

Speaker 1 6:35

Yeah , but it's over here Okay . So you're one dentist , the dentist Beatty's place .

Speaker 2 6:42

Oh , okay , isn't that Presque Isle Cider place ? No .

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Opposite side of the street .

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Anyhow .

Speaker 1 6:49

Okay , friendly , been there too . They're good I don't drink , but I have .

Speaker 2 6:55

Yeah , they have a non-cider slushie they do I think so .

Speaker 1 7:01

What am I talking about again , friendly ?

Speaker 2 7:02

Foodies , friendly Foodies . What did you buy ?

Speaker 1 7:04

I had the Cluck yeah .

Speaker 2 7:07

I'm guessing it was chicken .

Speaker 1 7:09

It was . No , it was fake chicken Tacos three of them and I'm telling you , I couldn't tell you the difference . It tasted like chicken , it looked like chicken , it was absolutely delicious . Probably three of the best tacos I've had .

Speaker 2 7:20

So did it look like shredded chicken ?

Speaker 1 7:23

It looked like grilled chicken that you chopped up . Wow , it was really good . And then I tasted Brooke's bagel sandwich thing . It was really good too , but mine was better . So shout out to those guys , check it out .

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Yeah , and now also , if you're in Alpena , there are some I don't know what . They're calling them the kiosks .

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The kiosks .

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The kiosks .

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You did talk about them last time I got more to say too , so go ahead as usual .

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So I was just going to mention the kiosks and say that they're all open now . I think .

Speaker 1 7:53

Yeah Well , no , knobby's opens the third oh that's tomorrow . Tomorrow , tomorrow , I love you . Tomorrow , tomorrow what's that song ? You're Only a Day Away . So Jovi Bree Stevens , my daughter , I told you she's doing social media for Blue Blends down there , the smoothie place . But , she also got the gig to do the social media for all those little places down there . Good job , Jovi so that's cool , but that's so cool . We have those little places down there , god .

Speaker 2 8:25

Jovi , so that's cool , but that's so cool . We have those little places down there , and I see they have a lot of public seating area so you can get whatever food . They're not all food , though .

Speaker 1 8:34

Nope ,

Bugs Getting Bigger

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and the thing is they're all doing pretty well from when I was over there talking to them and what Jovi says . But once Kanabi's goes in there it's going to blow the doors off and that's going to be good for that whole for the whole thing , because people , people do love kanabis .

Speaker 2 8:49

How can you not god they're donuts just say kanabis pillows eating pillows . They are like they're pillowy they're pillowy in a good way . Now , before we go any further , I just want to say this is our regroup podcast , so we're adding and talking about things we've forgotten or needed to add .

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Can we tell them why we're doing this ?

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Because for once somebody isn't prepared , and it's Kate .

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I actually was prepared , you were not . I'm not kidding you , I watched . Go ahead , I'll carry you . No , I don't want Kate . I actually was prepared , you were not .

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I'm not kidding you . I watched Go ahead , I'll carry you . No , I don't want to .

Speaker 1 9:27

I like it better when you're engaged . Anyway , go ahead . So this is a filler episode .

Speaker 2 9:32

So the filler episode . The first thing I need to say is Large Marge . I'm so sorry that I forgot you at the Paul Rubin slash Pee Wee podcast . I don't want her to come back and haunt me . I want to be on good terms with Large Marge because I love her . So so I just want to say thank you , cassidy , for pointing that out . And I forgot Large Marge . How could I do that ? I don't know .

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She might not forgive you .

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Well , cassidy might not , and that would be . She's a tough cookie though I know that might happen , but really I'm afraid of Large Marge coming back on me , because Large Marge Is she part of the Polish Mafia ? Large Marge ? No , she's a trucker . So , run you over , yeah , she would . Or give me a ride Like she did Pee Wee .

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Yeah , bye-bye . Tell them , large Marge sent you Large Marge sent you she was in .

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What else was she ?

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in , though it's the laugh . She was in something else .

Speaker 2 10:35

Oh , she was in a couple of things .

Speaker 1 10:38

Played the same kind of character .

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Yeah , I think so We'd have to Google that . I don't know about large Marge . Okay , so I'm going to check her off the list .

Speaker 1 10:47

Check her off the list .

Speaker 2 10:48

I will . My next thing that I just want to mention , and you sent me a video of a bug eating like a human . I think it was .

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I'm not sure . It was an alien bug eating a human and it was pretty intense . It was my cousin sure it was an alien bug eating a human and it was pretty intense .

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It was my cousin Jeffrey . It was a big bug , mm-hmm . And so that made me look at some other bugs , and I think that bugs are getting bigger .

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That was a big dragonfly .

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It was huge . It was huge . It was like the size of a hummingbird . Easy , oh bigger .

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You think bigger . Yeah , I hummingbird easy . Oh , bigger , I couldn't believe it . Yeah , I heard it before . I saw it coming when it landed and then , uh , shook the tree that it landed , no , and then I looked , I swear I could hear it eating like , yeah , I looked and it was just going and it didn't move , like it was like F you buddy , I'm busy here this is my hobby .

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Oh , like you were taping him and he's like I'm trying to eat dinner here . You didn't even care .

Speaker 1 11:48

But I think you're right . I think they should get bigger .

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I think they're getting bigger and I think it was gradual and now , maybe in the past five years , I think it's like noticeable . You know , like kids that are born today are just going to think that flies are the size of hummingbirds . That's going to be their norm .

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It could be that Mother Nature is sick of us .

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And she's like I'm going to make you guys get bigger if you eat those humans , because they are a detriment .

Speaker 1 12:22

And they don't want to do it all at once because , because it would shock us , cause chaos . So they're doing it methodically , growing slowly and nabbing us one at a time .

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I'm convinced and this is before the movie them , if you haven't seen that movie , the ants are going to take us over . They're getting bigger , they're getting bigger . Yeah , they're getting bigger . And not only are they getting bigger . There's so many of them right now . If they rallied against humans , they could totally take us over ?

Speaker 1 12:52

I think they are , but they're doing it from underground yeah like they're just carving it up down there and we're just going to sink oh okay , I don't know do you kill all the bugs ? I don't kill them .

Speaker 2 13:03

No , I don't I like spiders . They kill all the bugs . I don't kill them . No , I don't I like spiders . They're fine with me , we're cool , we're on good terms . They are getting bigger , also larger , but I'm okay with them because they kind of eat other bugs .

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Dragonflies do too .

Speaker 2 13:16

Dragonflies are beautiful , I don't mind dragonflies Cicadas , very loud , very annoying , but they aren't eating me .

Speaker 1 13:24

Right .

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Yet , okay , not yet .

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Oh , my God .

Speaker 2 13:27

If they would have been eating humans when we were gone and when I was on vacation , I wouldn't have come back because there were so many millions of cicadas .

Speaker 1 13:38

That'd be scary .

Speaker 2 13:40

Maybe they have that sound they make and so maybe that's mesmerizing people some way .

Speaker 1 13:47

I was watching something yesterday that's a horror movie and there was some sound in the background and I said to Brooke are those cicadas ? Like it was weird . It was like so , like chirp , chirp , chirp , Like loud Screechy , yeah .

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Yeah , they're very .

Speaker 1 14:11

Well , one is loud and then you get two , and then you get thousands of them and it's like you can't talk over it .

Speaker 2 14:14

Like the buzzing in my microphone right now . Sorry , I think only you hear that I don't know .

Speaker 1 14:18

Maybe it's not in the microphone , maybe it's in your head .

Speaker 2 14:19

It could be in my noggin , it's not in the microphone . Maybe , it's in your head . So yeah , bugs are getting bigger , that's awesome , check it out .

Speaker 1 14:25

I say feed them , get them bigger Feed them .

Speaker 2 14:31

What , though Humans ? And then Cassidy sent me a picture of a bug eating . It looked like it was eating the shell of something . I can't remember what it was , but it looked like it was a bug eating a crab leg , Because you know , crab legs , that's what it looked like . I can't think of what bug that was . She had a giant jumping spider in her world too .

Speaker 1 14:56

Those are pretty cool . Yeah , I thought it was a sea monkey at first , because it looked like it was underwater and I'm like is that a sea monkey ?

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Because it had a little face .

Speaker 1 15:04

You know , they have a little face .

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But it's not a face , it's just a trick . Humans .

Speaker 1 15:09

What do you think is going on there with those bugs , with the bugs ? I mean do they think and feel ?

Speaker 2 15:16

Well , they feel .

Speaker 1 15:17

I don't know , do they ?

Speaker 2 15:17

think or is it instinctual ? Instinctual we like to think that things don't think because we're thinkers .

Speaker 1 15:24

Oh , I think everything thinks in some way . All right , now all some scientists have you read Charlotte's Web . You guys are out of your mind .

Speaker 2 15:30

The scientists .

Speaker 1 15:31

I think they would agree with that I don't know , maybe they would , but all the stuff that we think we know . You know what I mean . I mean we could look in 50 years . Well , I'll be dead .

Speaker 2 15:41

Me too Same Okay .

Speaker 1 15:43

If we could look back , we'll be like , oh my God , we actually thought that way , or we believe that .

Speaker 2 15:48

Okay , go back five years to the beginning of COVID , the things that we thought because we didn't know , not because we didn't think it through or because we were jumping to conclusions . It's like here's the knowledge you have , here's what I think , based on that knowledge . Well , now our knowledge is larger .

Speaker 1 16:07

We did not know that , we did not know all of that you could mainline Clorox and it would kill the virus .

Speaker 2 16:12

Now we know .

Speaker 1 16:12

You could shoot sunlight up your butt and it would cure things .

Speaker 2 16:16

I didn't know that . I didn't know that . I still don't know that , because I believe in science . I believe in science , I believe in the sun . I believe in the sun too , but the sun is science .

Speaker 1 16:26

The sun's getting hotter .

Speaker 2 16:28

That's a thing .

Speaker 1 16:29

Or I'm getting older Well , that too I am too , but that sun is not the same sun I saw when I was a kid , it's fucking brutal .

Speaker 2 16:35

It is In weird places too , I just saw something about in Arizona , the Serino . I think I'm saying it close anyway . The Serino cactuses are dying because it's too fucking hot in the desert .

Speaker 1 16:54

So let's not believe in climate change .

Speaker 2 16:57

I mean , it's not funny , but you know , if cacti are having problems , it's probably hot .

Speaker 1 17:02

Yeah , and I can see the argument that the earth is doing what it's going to do . You know what I mean , and it can be .

Speaker 2 17:11

We're here in such a blip , and so Well , I definitely think that it's going to happen no matter what . But I think we as humans , especially now , especially in the past hundred years , have escalated it and made it happen quicker , quicker , quicker .

Speaker 1 17:28

Well , sure , you know cavemen .

Speaker 2 17:31

before the industrial age ,

Climate Change Discussions

Speaker 2 17:34

people weren't really messing around with the climate , I mean they were a little bit by burning wood and whatever , but think of all the climate Right . I mean they were a little bit by burning wood and whatever but Think of all the garbage . But once the industrial age happened .

Speaker 1 17:49

Well , you got cell phones and cars out of it .

Speaker 2 17:51

Yeah , there's some good for sure , Well not who cares , but you know . I don't know .

Speaker 1 17:57

That's not the oh , there's a dragonfly . There he goes .

Speaker 2 18:00

He was knocking out the window and took off .

Speaker 1 18:03

It wasn't a very pretty one , though . What else you got there ?

Speaker 2 18:08

Now it's going to come back .

Speaker 1 18:09

Yeah , I shouldn't say that how pretty Bugs .

Speaker 2 18:14

Okay , so I just want . Another thing I wanted to mention was people are really passionate about their pickles .

Speaker 1 18:23

Hey , didn't we do an episode about that ?

Speaker 2 18:24

We did and that's how I know .

Speaker 1 18:26

Okay .

Speaker 2 18:27

And we did say that on the podcast too Passionate pickle . That's kind of a tongue twister , but I also wanted to mention that Dill Pickle V8 makes a drink called Dill Pickle Bloody Mary .

Speaker 1 18:43

That sounds delicious . And it is delicious , if you like , bloody Marys called Dill Pickle Bloody Mary . That sounds delicious .

Speaker 2 18:44

And it is delicious , if you like , bloody Marys and Dill Pickles .

Speaker 1 18:48

I do , but I don't , well , I do .

Speaker 2 18:50

But you don't have to put alcohol in it in a Bloody Mary .

Speaker 1 18:53

But I was drinking . I craved that stuff more Like tomato-y salty Tomato yeah .

Speaker 2 18:59

This comes from your grandma with whiskey .

Speaker 1 19:01

Oh yeah .

Speaker 2 19:04

She's putting salt in her beer .

Speaker 1 19:05

Yeah , legend . I don't know why I used to do that .

Speaker 2 19:08

Did you . Why do you do that ?

Speaker 1 19:09

I don't know . It tastes good . Oh , I'm not kidding . You put a little salt in the foam of your beer . Look at the look on your face . Oh , you know , I bought some beer yesterday , some fake beer , fake beer . Some Corona .

Speaker 2 19:24

Corona Fo Corona .

Speaker 1 19:27

Everybody's making the fake beer now .

Speaker 2 19:29

They are . It's a big thing , so kids can drink .

Speaker 1 19:33

I don't know Probably they still card you .

Speaker 2 19:36

Really yeah , why .

Speaker 1 19:37

Oh , first of all , they shouldn't card me . Obviously I look like I got beat with the ugly stick from an old person , but no , they card you because it's still classified as alcohol .

Speaker 2 19:50

But that's the whole thing . There's no alcohol in it , so Jovi can't go into Meijer and buy fake beer .

Speaker 1 20:00

I mean , she might have a fake ID . No , she's pretty responsible .

Speaker 2 20:03

But yeah , you can't . Well , that doesn't seem right .

Speaker 1 20:07

That you can't buy A kid , can't drink fake beer .

Speaker 2 20:11

I know what's the world coming to . Huh Well , my thought is why make fake beer if people get carded to buy it ? True , Isn't that the whole purpose of fake ?

Speaker 1 20:25

beers . I don't know . I don't even know why I buy fake beer .

Speaker 2 20:28

Did you ?

Speaker 1 20:29

drink it ? Well , not this one , but I've drank . Yeah , stella makes a really good one . Stella Atwood yeah , that's very good . Heineken is as skunky as ever when you have the NA , but now it's summertime for the lies coming out , so you think beer would sound good . They do sometimes . Sometimes a beer sounds good Ice cold .

Speaker 2 20:50

Gotta be ice cold in the summer .

Speaker 1 20:52

Nothing can compare with vodka , though . With vodka oh my god , that was my favorite .

Speaker 2 20:57

Vodka was your favorite . I like gin . I used to drink it .

Speaker 1 21:01

Oh , that's right , you're a ginner .

Speaker 2 21:02

I'm a ginner .

Speaker 1 21:03

That's nice and fresh .

Speaker 2 21:04

It is a refreshing summer drink .

Speaker 1 21:06

What do you mix with it ?

Speaker 2 21:07

G&T tonic If it's the right gin .

Speaker 1 21:12

Nothing .

Speaker 2 21:13

No , you've got to have something . You've got to have a little splash , splash of tonic and some

Pickle Passions and Non-Alcoholic Beers

Speaker 2 21:20

lime . I haven't drank since I was on vacation . Maybe I need to go on vacation again .

Speaker 1 21:26

Well , tonight , when you're gnawing on some bison meat , guzzling booze , what are you doing for the 4th ? Oh , you have a family over .

Speaker 2 21:34

We have people over , but for the 4th nothing . For the 3rd we are going to we're actually going to a family memorial service for somebody .

Speaker 1 21:45

Not a service .

Speaker 2 21:45

It's just like a get-together in honor of Celeste Phillips , who was a lovely person . She was a great person , so we will go honor her .

Speaker 1 21:56

That's a great name , celeste .

Speaker 2 21:59

Remember the Babar books with the elephant Babar .

Speaker 1 22:05

Oh , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2 22:06

Yeah , his wife's name was Celeste . Oh , mm-hmm .

Speaker 1 22:09

Man , you got all the information .

Speaker 2 22:10

Well , that's enough . Elephants can be another one too .

Speaker 1 22:15

You get to see the fireworks right there from your place , yeah we can see them .

Speaker 2 22:17

We just have to walk down to the shore a little bit . I might go down to my neighbor's she's around the corner . Well , if you get bored on that , what are you doing on the ?

Speaker 1 22:28

5th .

Speaker 2 22:28

Nothing .

Speaker 1 22:31

Family stuff probably .

Speaker 2 22:32

Probably . I mean we'll still have Jenna and Mike will be home , but we're just going to hang out . Oh , the 5th is Saturday , and then Cassidy's coming over With Doug .

Speaker 1 22:43

Yeah , the 5 Saturday . Then Cassidy's coming over . Oh , okay With Doug . Yeah , the fifth will be . I think that's the Grand Lake fireworks .

Speaker 2 22:47

Well , I'm glad they spaced it out like that .

Speaker 1 22:49

I don't know if they did it on purpose . We don't need the time ones , but we'll be at the cottage Well can you see them from your house ? What the fireworks ? Yeah , but we won't be here oh you're going to , of the cottage . And then I like the Grand Lake ones because they're right across the lake , far enough away you can see them with a bunch of humans . I've got to give people more credit . I thought I was going to do that .

Speaker 2 23:13

First they have to prove they are worthy of the credit .

Speaker 1 23:16

I don't know , maybe that's my thing . I should just accept people right off the bat , don't they fucking disappoint you . I almost got T-Bone , if you have low , low priorities .

Speaker 2 23:28

You will never .

Speaker 1 23:29

The same intersection that I can't describe . The day before yesterday stopped at the light there , my lovely bride's with me , white truck behind me . I always , no matter what , because I had too many close calls downstate , I always look , look , look and look , exactly , yep .

Speaker 1 23:46

I did that . The light changed green . I look , look , look , look . I pull out and a car is racing toward me . I slam on the brakes and it just goes right around me , you know . And then it keeps going and I get that rage , you know sometimes . Did you follow him ? Yeah , I turned right away and went after him .

Speaker 2 24:02

Brooke's like what are you doing , what are you going to do ? And then I'm like what am I doing ?

Speaker 1 24:05

Right away I thought I got kids and it was a kid in the car . I'm like what am I ? I just followed him for a block and scared him a little bit . Yeah , so , mister , if you're listening , mister what was he driving ? A Buick Enclave .

Speaker 2 24:20

I believe it was Okay , yep , what's his license ?

Speaker 1 24:24

number . It was probably a 2018 . I actually I won't say that . Anyhow , they're going to do some 21-gun salute out there . I see him lining up . Somebody , a veteran , must have passed away .

Speaker 2 24:37

Oh , the funeral home is right across the street .

Speaker 1 24:39

Sorry , I probably should clarify Are they really lining ?

Speaker 2 24:42

up . Yeah , I see them .

Speaker 1 24:44

There's not going to be any guys out there to do that . You're going to have to do it .

Speaker 2 24:49

To do the .

Speaker 1 24:50

Shooting .

Speaker 2 24:50

The shooting .

Speaker 1 24:51

Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2 24:52

We used to maybe it was on 4th of July , actually , I remember on New Year's Eve my dad would let us . We were out at the cottage away from people , but he'd let us all shoot one time in the air with a rifle . That's pretty cool . I don't even know what it was . It wasn't a handgun , it was a hunting rifle .

Speaker 1 25:16

A boom , boom stick .

Speaker 2 25:17

So we'd all shoot one time .

Speaker 1 25:19

That's cool . Speaking of the 4th , that obviously is a good memory for you . What are some of your fond memories about your own 4th of July ?

Speaker 2 25:28

About 4th of July .

Speaker 1 25:30

Not nothing , not anything .

Speaker 2 25:35

I guess not Nothing comes to mind .

Speaker 1 25:37

Neither , huh , I do remember . Sometimes if we didn't go to watch the fireworks from out in the ridge , you could actually see them from our house yeah . They'd come up over the horizon . The trees were lower in that God , I don't remember , I don't know .

Speaker 2 25:53

I used to . When I lived in town I used to walk down to the fireworks . It was kind of a big deal , but I'm not a huge fireworks fan .

Speaker 1 26:02

Yeah .

Speaker 2 26:03

I think you know if you like them , you like them . Good for you . I think there are pollution in the air pollution on the ground . People lose limbs , lives .

Speaker 1 26:14

Well , on that note , I bought some yesterday . Oh , did you yeah .

Speaker 2 26:16

Alright . Let's see how many fingers you have today , and then we'll count them again .

Speaker 1 26:21

No , Jovi lights them off for us .

Speaker 2 26:23

Alright , count her fingers .

Speaker 1 26:26

Yeah , we were at the dentist yesterday for her Thunder Bay Family Dentistry . Thank you , Jack Beal and your staff . You're great as always .

Speaker 2 26:33

I go to them as well .

Speaker 1 26:35

I love them . They're so happy . They're nice people .

Speaker 2 26:37

I know they're just happy to be there .

Speaker 1 26:39

So then we decided let's go to the fireworks things across the street , and then Trailer . Yep Got some , not too many .

Speaker 2 26:48

Now , what are the names of the things you ?

Speaker 1 26:50

got , there goes my father-in-law what ?

Speaker 2 26:52

What are the names ? Because he always has the bee's knees , okay , the bumblebee , I got two bee ones . Like the what does it ?

Speaker 1 26:58

do God , I got something , oh , I can't remember , but it's a big one and it lasts for two minutes .

Speaker 2 27:08

Wow , yeah , I don't know .

Speaker 1 27:10

Now are .

Speaker 2 27:10

Go to the end of the dock ? No , why ?

Speaker 1 27:12

We do it right on the shore . I put a board out and then pollute the water that way .

Speaker 2 27:17

All right , good job . We're really lucky because we have water all around us and if something goes amiss , you have water available .

Speaker 1 27:28

You've got the best spot to shoot fireworks .

Speaker 2 27:31

Well , that's where they shoot the fireworks in the bay .

Speaker 2 27:33

I mean not right next to next to you should get a barge go out there I think that's one thing I don't really need some gin and like shit on fire um one year we were in our boat watching the fireworks you have a boat yeah , just a small one fishing boat , and , um , that was kind of cool to see that that way . In fact , though , that was the one year that they were lighting them off near shore . It was on a barge , but the barge was like near the shore and one went , we could tell one went wrong . It went off on the ground .

Speaker 1 28:11

Yeah , didn't the dude get hurt ?

Speaker 2 28:13

I think he might have died . I don't know , I can't remember . Sorry , buddy . But then they just went on with the show . After a while we're like oh , I guess that's the end of it . Somebody died . No , it's not .

Speaker 1 28:26

Keep them going . Death cannot stop fireworks there they go .

Speaker 2 28:30

Can you hear that ? Hear it One more Can you hear that . Hear it .

Speaker 1 28:34

One more . Oh , they'll keep going . No , that's it 21 ?

Speaker 2 28:38

Was that 21 ? They just did three .

Speaker 1 28:41

Oh , there's seven of them shooting .

Speaker 2 28:42

Maybe there's seven of them , never mind . So they shot three times .

Speaker 1 28:45

Seven times three is 21 ? Yeah , thanks to all our service folks . Yeah . By the way , I feel bad that here we are blabbing and someone's celebrating .

Speaker 2 29:00

You know who else died is Red Wings .

Speaker 1 29:05

Blackbird .

Speaker 2 29:06

No Red Wings . Legendary Red Wings guy , alex DeVecchi Sure , I'm going to get his name wrong . I've got to look it up . He was 93 . And so they're showing clips of the Red Wings and nobody has a helmet on or anything they're just skating and killing each other . Alex Delvecchio .

Speaker 1 29:31

That's a great name .

Speaker 2 29:32

Isn't that a great name .

Speaker 1 29:33

Delvecchio , like Al DeVecchio . Alex Delvecchio , that's a great name , isn't that a great name ? Delvecchio , like Al .

Speaker 2 29:34

Delvecchio , alex Delvecchio .

Speaker 1 29:36

Al Delvecchio was on Happy Days , not Al .

Speaker 2 29:40

Was that Big ? Al Yep yep yep , yep , yep , well , well , well , well , well . He stole his name from Alex Delvecchio , who , as many great Red Wings players , was born in Canada , was born in .

Speaker 1 29:51

Canada .

Speaker 2 29:52

Yeah , which happy Canada Day yesterday to everybody , happy Canada Day . Wish .

Speaker 1 29:58

I was there . We can still

Fourth of July Plans and Memories

Speaker 1 30:00

go .

Speaker 2 30:00

Well , okay , here's the plan . We're going to morph Michigan into Canada , I think so . Don't tell anybody .

Speaker 1 30:07

Okay .

Speaker 2 30:08

It's just going to happen , and then , after it's done , then we'll tell everybody .

Speaker 1 30:13

I got you .

Speaker 2 30:14

So let's work on that , people .

Speaker 1 30:16

The UP's already started , I think .

Speaker 2 30:17

Yeah , they would go in a heartbeat .

Speaker 1 30:20

Would they ?

Speaker 2 30:21

Yeah , they would All right . So if you guys can think of anything else that we need to follow up on , we kind of just blabbed the whole time .

Speaker 1 30:31

Yeah .

Speaker 2 30:32

But we do have something that we need Our listeners helps , helps , helps .

Speaker 1 30:38

Listener .

Speaker 2 30:38

A listener helps .

Speaker 1 30:39

We have one listener .

Speaker 2 30:43

No , we have two , brooke and Cassidy Yep . So should we do a podcast on ? Here Are your Choices , number one Number one . What is it ? Chickens .

Speaker 1 30:56

Number one . Number one what is it ? Chickens .

Speaker 2 30:57

Chickens People do love their chickens .

Speaker 1 31:00

Cluck , yeah , we should .

Speaker 2 31:01

We'll probably do a chicken one regardless , but let me know about chickens . Oh okay , here's another suggestion .

Speaker 1 31:07

Number two .

Speaker 2 31:08

Number two .

Speaker 1 31:09

Emo Not Elmo Emo music .

Speaker 2 31:10

Emo music Like my Chemical .

Speaker 1 31:12

Romance Okay . Isn , you guys know , not Elmo emo music like my Chemical Romance okay isn't that one of them ?

Speaker 2 31:18

I don't know . That's why I would like to do that , because I don't know .

Speaker 1 31:21

So we'd have to research . They scream like I like that because they're emotional a radio station , son of a bitch . I'm blanking out alternative . What the hell is it called Alt Nation ?

Speaker 2 31:32

no , Lithium geez in alternative . What the hell is it called alt nation ? No , lithium , lithium jeez in october what is that ?

Speaker 1 31:37

well , no , they do . They do a screamo emo in october , oh fun , yeah , I think like isn't blink 182 and I don't know , it's like punk , but modern . Maybe we'll figure it out . We'll figure it out what's number three ?

Speaker 2 31:49

punk . So it was kind of on the same line . Two music bands .

Speaker 1 31:52

Maybe we could put it together Emo and punk . I don't know Emo and punk . I don't think so Because Brooke , my wife's a punker . Is she a punk rocker , a punk rocker ?

Speaker 2 32:02

She's a punk rock girl . She likes punk , like the Ramones . Yeah , who's your favorite punk band ?

Speaker 1 32:06

Don't ask me Johnny Rotten or something I don't know .

Speaker 2 32:11

He's in the Sex Pistols . That too , mm-hmm .

Speaker 1 32:13

I wonder if that Never mind Well we could .

Speaker 2 32:16

There's things I don't know We'll find out , she likes Sum 41 . They're punk .

Speaker 1 32:21

Are they punk ? I would say so Okay .

Speaker 2 32:22

Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1 32:24

I like Rise Against . They're kind of punk .

Speaker 2 32:30

They . I love Iggy .

Speaker 1 32:31

He's got a song called Punk Rock Baby or Punk Rocker I'm a punk rocker no , that's the Ramones .

Speaker 2 32:36

No . Maybe he redid it Maybe I do love Iggy .

Speaker 1 32:42

He's from Michigan .

Speaker 2 32:43

There's no way he could be a dick . Although he probably was a dick and somebody .

Speaker 1 32:47

He kind of has to be .

Speaker 2 32:48

Yeah , I've heard he kind of was when he was doing his punk rock shows , you know , like real slimy punk Slimy punk Like grimy punk yeah . He would spit on his hand and then shake your hand .

Speaker 1 33:02

It's punk . It's just showing people , man , it's punk , man , put it right out there .

Speaker 2 33:05

It's punk and he has the hottest body in the world and he turns around and it's like whoa , it's icky , yeah , All right , here's another one totally off of those topics Scientology .

Speaker 1 33:19

So that's an option , tom Cruise is one of his favorite snacks when he goes to the movies . He'll sneak in the back of the theater sometimes and go with his friends or family .

Speaker 2 33:27

To Mission Impossible 101 .

Speaker 1 33:29

Yeah , probably I want to see the latest one .

Speaker 2 33:31

Well , I just read a fact . Sorry to interrupt .

Speaker 1 33:34

No , you're good I do to see the latest one .

Speaker 2 33:35

Well , I just read a fact Sorry to interrupt no , you're good , I do to you all the time . I read a fact that Tom Cruise started the Mission Impossible franchise when he was 30 . He's 63 .

Speaker 1 33:43

The dude's in great shape .

Speaker 2 33:44

He is in great shape .

Speaker 1 33:45

Maybe in .

Speaker 2 33:46

Scientology .

Speaker 1 33:46

He could be , and he seems like a genuinely nice dude .

Speaker 2 33:49

What's he doing in Scientology ?

Speaker 1 33:51

I don't know .

Speaker 2 33:51

What's he doing in Scientology ? I don't know . Maybe that's why , maybe I kind of think he might be a cyborg . He could be , but I know that we will find out .

Speaker 1 33:58

When he's in a movie theater , his favorite snack is because he says that they let me have certain things , whatever that means Maybe it's the Scientologists , Anyway , popcorn with licorice in it .

Speaker 2 34:16

Bits of licorice in his pocket , like black licorice . I don't know , I didn't ask him , I don't like licorice .

Speaker 1 34:18

So what's your favorite ? I love popcorn . Oh who doesn't ? Do you ever buy those big-ass bags on the top shelf at Meijer ? They're big , huge yellow popcorn Buttery . Oh my God .

Speaker 2 34:28

No , but I need a movie fix pretty soon to get the . I don't care what I see go see jurassic park I was thinking about that you should uh , I like scarlett johansson she's in it yeah , I read a review for it . It's like can we kill the dinosaurs already ? You can't no , you can't . Maybe they're the new bug , maybe they're the bug I bet you we're gonna go back to all that .

Speaker 2 34:51

And you know , yeah , you bring them back , and they're starting to bring back things like on the first jur , back to all that . And you know , yeah , you bring them back , and they're starting to bring back things Like on the first Jurassic Park . That's how it happened . You know they had a little DNA and they brought it back . Oh yeah , they're doing it . They're doing it . They brought back something that was extinct .

Speaker 1 35:09

Sasquatch .

Speaker 2 35:10

Maybe an no , that's still a thing . In Australia they brought back some I don't know it's not a dingo , but I wish it was . The dingo ate your baby . So Scientology is where that started .

Speaker 1 35:26

What's your favorite Tom Cruise movie ?

Speaker 2 35:28

Oh , that's a good question , because although I say I'm not a big tom cruise fan , I do usually like his movies . Okay ,

Future Podcast Topics

Speaker 2 35:36

um , I really liked rain man when it came oh shit , that was a good one , a really good one , the other 400 oak street , cleveland , ohio .

Speaker 1 35:50

look at we're both rocking back and forth .

Speaker 2 35:51

We are no , no shame intended .

Speaker 1 35:55

Risky business .

Speaker 2 35:58

I mean for its time , I suppose it was good .

Speaker 1 36:00

Yeah , I know you didn't like Top Gun .

Speaker 2 36:03

Again for its time . It was good .

Speaker 1 36:06

Days of Thunder .

Speaker 2 36:07

I haven't seen that one and I keep meaning to watch it . It comes up every now and then on a movie channel . I'm like I should really watch that one day . Magnolia , magnolia , are you ?

Speaker 1 36:18

fucking kidding me right now . I know I've mentioned it before and I can't believe you watched it watch that movie . It's got john c reilly on it , it's got oh , I like him it's got tom cruise , it is it's long yeah , I , you better devote some time , I'm okay .

Speaker 2 36:34

Lots of popcorn . I got time .

Speaker 1 36:36

That is one of my favorites . I thought that would be my favorite . You know what ?

Speaker 2 36:40

my favorite role that Tom Cruise plays is in Tropic Thunder . Oh , like the first time I watched it , I didn't even know it was him , jerry McQuire . Like the first time I watched it , I didn't even know , it was him , jerry Maguire . I would say yeah , I like that .

Speaker 1 37:00

Show me the money . What happened to that boy ? The little boy Dogs and bees smell fear or whatever . It is the human head weighs eight pounds .

Speaker 2 37:07

He's in a gang now , is he ?

Speaker 1 37:09

I don't know Got regurgitated through the porn industry .

Speaker 2 37:11

I don't know Whatever happened to him . That could be a podcast Whatever happened to him .

Speaker 1 37:17

Anyway , how are you doing it ? What do we have ?

Speaker 2 37:19

Number five we have two more to pick from Four Elephants .

Speaker 1 37:25

Elephants .

Speaker 2 37:26

Yeah .

Speaker 1 37:28

Okay .

Speaker 2 37:30

I'm going to guess no on your part .

Speaker 1 37:32

I like elephants . Yeah , I mean I feel bad .

Speaker 2 37:35

For elephants I do too , Because they feel they do , they do ? They do .

Speaker 1 37:40

I mean , you see videos where they're asking for help . They are more human than some humans , I know . And we treat them like dog shit . Not all of us . No not all of them .

Speaker 2 37:50

Yeah , the babies . Oh my God , the babies are so cute . And the last one is I don't know , maybe people don't know who she is . You didn't know , I don't know . Eva Peron .

Speaker 1 38:03

Well , I did after you said it , because she's the president . What the movie Evita .

Speaker 2 38:09

Yeah , that's what that's based on . Yeah .

Speaker 1 38:11

Madonna .

Speaker 2 38:12

Madonna was in it . Yeah , madonna , madonna was in it . Yeah , cassidy and I went and saw that play . I think we were in London . Don't cry for me , argentina .

Speaker 1 38:24

Was it good ? Yeah , it was . Was Madonna in it ? No , what is she doing ? Is she in Scientologist ?

Speaker 2 38:31

No , probably not . No , I think she was like a Buddha or something .

Speaker 1 38:37

I don't know who would win in a madonna madonna or scarlett johansson .

Speaker 2 38:40

Oh , scarlet , she's too nice , probably scarlet . Yeah , I don't think she would you ever see lucy ?

Speaker 1 38:46

lucy scarlett johansson played the character lucy .

Speaker 2 38:50

It's a movie called lucy uh she's like a badass oh , I don't think I've seen that one . What's the one where she ? It's so weird and gross ? I read the book too . She's like an alien she collects the skin of people .

Speaker 1 39:08

What .

Speaker 2 39:09

And what are they making ? They're making something out of it . Wait , am I talking about the same movie ? Is it coats ? I don't know , I . And what are they making ? They're making something out of it . Wait , am I talking ?

Speaker 1 39:19

about the same movie .

Speaker 2 39:19

Is it Coats , I don't know , I can't remember ? Like Car Seats , I don't know . Sounds cool , though it was a really weird movie .

Speaker 1 39:24

Weird , I'll have to look up the name of it . So Elephants .

Speaker 2 39:28

And then Eva Peron , aka Evita .

Speaker 1 39:30

Evita . So voice your opinion . Don't we have another one ? Oh , we don't . Scientology , no .

Speaker 2 39:35

Scientology that's a lot . Voice your opinion at Hero or Dick 2023 at gmailcom .

Speaker 1 39:42

Do that .

Speaker 2 39:43

And we will choose one of those , if not for the next podcast , for a soon-to-be podcast , because I think we have our topic for the next one .

Speaker 1 39:54

if I do any research , I don't know you probably could have did that by the seat of your pants I could have .

Speaker 2 40:00

This morning I went huh , I did not . I , I knew it was coming , I just was like get like that but I like procrastinating , I'm glad we keep doing this , even if we're just fucking around today if nobody's listening .

Speaker 1 40:13

Yes , um , we'll continue to do it . We gotta think of something , though we have all these ideas we we keep doing this , even if we're just fucking around today , even if nobody's listening .

Speaker 2 40:20

Yes , we'll continue to do it .

Speaker 1 40:21

We've got to think of something , though we have all these ideas we don't follow through with .

Speaker 2 40:23

You know what we need Website merch . We need swag . We need some merch . We'll work on that . Let's make that . I'm going to put that at the top of our list . Right now I'm writing it . Can that happen ?

Speaker 1 40:30

S-W-A-G-E .

Speaker 2 40:32

S-W-A-G-E .

Speaker 1 40:35

That's swage .

Speaker 2 40:36

And then we're going to have a little contest .

Speaker 1 40:40

Are we ?

Speaker 2 40:40

Yeah , for our two viewers to see who emails us first , or something .

Speaker 1 40:44

You know , what we should do is see if we can do this somewhere .

Speaker 2 40:47

Somewhere we need to go on the road .

Speaker 1 40:50

Even if it's just here , maybe the winery Go sit in the winery and do a podcast .

Speaker 2 40:55

Okay , let's think on that .

Speaker 1 40:56

Or the kiosk .

Speaker 2 40:57

We could go down to the kiosk I don't know .

Speaker 1 40:59

There , though , Anyway , if people have an idea for that , yeah yeah , the wheels are turning . We've got to get some guests , real ones maybe . Yeah , we don't have to .

Speaker 2 41:12

For chickens . I know lots of chicken ladies .

Speaker 1 41:15

Yeah , what's her name again ?

Speaker 2 41:16

Well , my niece Emily has chickens , and then my friend Lori has chickens too .

Speaker 1 41:20

Maybe we can dial them up .

Speaker 2 41:22

Yes , yeah , we could call them .

Speaker 1 41:24

Do they live here ?

Speaker 2 41:26

No , neither one of them do .

Speaker 1 41:27

Where do they live ?

Speaker 2 41:28

One lives in West Olive , which is near Holland , and one lives in Funky Ferndale that , which is near Holland , and one lives in Funky Ferndale . That's too far to drive . Well , she might be here , though , next week , so I'll check with her and see if she'll do it .

Speaker 1 41:40

Yeah , I like it Okay .

Speaker 2 41:42

All right , well , I hope we didn't lose anybody . We didn't gain anybody , but we didn't lose you . It doesn't matter , all right .

Speaker 1 41:51

All right , thanks , bye .